I see you copied this comment from another video 😊
@thawthaw03 Жыл бұрын
Same here. 🤣
@Norbingel Жыл бұрын
Surely brushing off the char also reduces the protection?
@henricusinstitoris23252 ай бұрын
I also wondered this
@BeeBait3 жыл бұрын
I make a non-uniform geometric plant pot out of a chunk of cedar from the backyard. Simply revealed the beauty, carved a depression into it, charred it, brushed it, charred it, brushed it, charred it, brushed it, charred it and finished brushing it. The deep ravines are amazing to feel. I planted a cedar from the old one inside the dip. Circular, it all comes back into itelf.
@paulhorn242 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video or photos of that
@LAStars-sratS Жыл бұрын
Why do you not do the sides of the boards?
@michaelwhitehurst8 ай бұрын
If curling and woodworking had a baby...
@henricusinstitoris23252 ай бұрын
@michaelwhitehurst i found the best comment on the internet today!
@NathanSweet Жыл бұрын
Seeing the brush marks against the grain doesn't seem great. There were few shots of the wood dry. Can't see much when it's wet.
@MicaelAlbrecht-lk9uf19 күн бұрын
BRILLIANT ❤
@Dmart2024 Жыл бұрын
Hello.. great video and so helpful.. appreciate what you do
@oldgoat88612 жыл бұрын
??? Does pouring water on after the burn do more than just stop the fire and coal burn ?? Does the cold water "shock" and retract the grain to tighten the pours ?? Or....does fracture the debri scaling of the excess char that would hold water ??? Maybe nothing but stopping the burn, but the process is for rot. So I was wondering if this is a required process.
@jeroddunn3 жыл бұрын
So cool
@easyhelper2 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@MargaritaInclanRobredoXD_IXXI9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this post 🙂
@williamhartzelljr.90802 жыл бұрын
I have oak pallets that I want to use to make a raised garden bed. Is it an absolute must to wire brush off the charcoal since it's going to be covered with dirt on the inside? Thank you
@Nettle314 Жыл бұрын
From what I've seen from other videos - on the contrary. Keeping the charcoal should even increase the protection. (Speaking from my understanding, not experience or expertise)
@josephr33742 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you sharing these videos with us. There is so much to learn with this process and you have been a great resource. I am going to install Shou Sugi Ban siding on my cabin build this summer. Being from eastern Canada, the closest comparable product is larch. I milled it last year, bought a jointer and thickness planer and plan on making 6” wide shiplap. I have a few uncertainties that hopefully you can help me with. 1) Should this burning be 100% the traditional way? Or can there be use of torch? 2) I hope to have my siding fade as little as possible and remain black. Is this possible w/o burning it to a gator crisp? Appreciate any advice. Keep up the good work folks. Thank you.
@josefvogstad3008 Жыл бұрын
After the washing how much sut fransfer if there? How might you reduce the sut transfer
@WhoOwl-o4fКүн бұрын
To bad the homes in la weren’t built with this technique
@KARLSVIK23 жыл бұрын
Hi Really good and informative edit. But I don’t get it in the end… what was a bad ide? Was it to use wire brush? / Carl-Johan Appel Lapland Sweden
@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica3 жыл бұрын
I believe he was referencing trying to brush the soot off without using water to help. The water keeps the soot from becoming an airborne dust that can be really messy.
@semiliterati3 жыл бұрын
I definitely have reached the same conclusion with nylon brushes, however I prefer a shorter bristle. My favorite is an 8x2½" that came with 2" bristles. I racked the bristles down from their original 2" on one side to, ½" on the other. Unless soot has to be managed however, I couldn't disagree more about using water. Are you finding another benefit with the use of water, outside of dust management?
@avidreader6097 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that the video didn’t show the different effects for each brush. Could have been very helpful
@adamwells71510 ай бұрын
EXACTLY what I was thinking...
@StansE250 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if Shou Sugi Ban will prevent or deter CUPPING of Poplar boards ?
@MELODYMUNRO2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it would look like with power washing...
@holybeef76902 жыл бұрын
Great job I did the same as you 2 years ago with red pine boards on my house the have totally faded from the sun is there any natural sealants I can use too stop further fading any help is appreciated thank you
@Nettle314 Жыл бұрын
i'm no expert at all, but i know they say this technique should ideally be used with cedar boards, so that might make a difference. For natural sealants, I can only think of linseed oil and tung oil (natural oils that harden into a film), but again i'm not particularly knowledgable on this.
@j.r.walden99372 жыл бұрын
😍Ummm just teach me how to get 2:39 !!
@Christ_on_the_River3 жыл бұрын
Why would you char only one or both sides of the wood?
@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica3 жыл бұрын
This is an exterior siding material. Charring one side allows it to keep dimensional stability while still protecting the exposed side.
@andrewrance3 жыл бұрын
@@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica dimensional stability? If you only char one side you will often experience cupping and exaggerated curving and deformation of the board look for the video titled "Why is charring timber cladding both sides important?"
@BeeBait3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrance haven't been in the industry long, huh?
@andrewrance3 жыл бұрын
@@BeeBaitgreat observation, thanks for the comment.
@chompers113 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrance do you have any references showing burning both sides? I've only seen one ever done
@arkas67973 жыл бұрын
If I apply your technique to a beekeeping hive, will the plank distortions be large? The hive should only burn on the outside. Thank you.
@semiliterati3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, yes, and no. For preservation, the burning should be penetrating for it to be effective, and it's difficult to maintain consistency across the entire length of a board. For sheds, or boxy structures in general, I'll start with boards that have similar moisture content. I'll cut them anywhere from an ⅛", to as much as ⅜", oversized, depending on how exposed that area will be to the elements. I only treat the end grain at this point, and after clearing off all the soot, I assemble the frame, and treat the whole thing as a single piece. It takes more time than I'd prefer, but the end result comes out looking like something out of Tolkien's Shire. Overall, there's an appearance of knurled, and warped, ancient wood, but getting straight lines where I need them is usually pretty simple. It helps to have a small torch on hand for precision burns at any problem areas. If the inside must go untreated, treat the individual boards prior to construction, and then run them through your table saw for a clean interior edge. In all cases, removing all the soot is is a must. It's not just carcinogenic, it's a sponge waiting for moisture.
@Phil2684 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! is it gonna work on terrace that is exposed to sun, snow, rain and wind? Do you use any other tree than cypress tree?
@NotnaAir3 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте, выглядит круто! Только почему обработка только с одной стороны?
@jessegriffin92 жыл бұрын
it's an ancient Japanese tech to protect rotten by moisture and insects from the outside of the building. Only one sided because if it is inside, there would be health problem of charcoal for people.
@coryseaward975 Жыл бұрын
Crazy that much water for one piece… Can just imagine the cost too.. Brutal
@Ethan-qe7cr2 күн бұрын
This is silly. Why would you take off the protective layer?
@DE2borknot2b3 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to brush off (with water) if the boards are under a roof housing a travel trailer? I can see doing this on a house build. Also, is there a reason to use oil to apply a stain coat once the boards have been brushed/water/cleaned? In another video, you stated that the Japanese do not apply oil (they like the age look of the wood), but I didn't catch if the Japanese oil the boards at all???? I'm doing some research from your videos & Japanese videos that teach the real burning (but I don't speak Japanese)...🙂
@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica3 жыл бұрын
None of this is "necessary." We simply wanted to show viewers how to take traditional Suyaki yakisugi and brush off the topmost soot layer to create a different surface texture we call "Gendai." The Japanese traditional method is typically to just burn the wood and install it as-is, without any oil finish.
@DE2borknot2b3 жыл бұрын
@@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica -- Thank you! It's very fascinating & smart, burning wood to protect it. I love learning about the Japanese culture. 🙂
@capitalinventor48233 жыл бұрын
I believe that the purpose of the water is to stop dust from flying around. If they hadn't used water then it would have been very, very dusty in there. The amount of brushing takes off different amount of charring. The more brushing gives a lighter end result but also probably takes away some of the protection.
@kricketkitty2 жыл бұрын
@@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica Wait...you don't have to oil finish to protect the wood? Even for exterior, exposed to the elements 24/7 use like raised garden beds? Wouldn't the oil give it a longer life?
@safetyfirstintexas2 жыл бұрын
since som temples used this method in the 1300's how much more longevity do you need?
@Lumberbuds1 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be funny, but I wonder if a carpet shampooer would work in place of scrubbing by hand. The water comes out the nozzle. The nylon bristles do the work and then it sucks the water back off. I think that’s worth a shot. I’m not quite ready yet though but I think I’m gonna give it a go.
@Ahtraihue2 ай бұрын
Always use a rental, they are known to be the best at these types of jobs.
@Lumberbuds12 ай бұрын
@ I wound up buying a power brusher that looks like a grinder with a brush on the bottom. It works fantastic.
@jeremymayfield83343 жыл бұрын
Why not just pressure wash?
@kricketkitty2 жыл бұрын
I wondered the same thing after researching different brushes. Did you try it?
@SatboxHD2 жыл бұрын
I think it's like cleaning a fish by water pressure, you just force water in, and it's not good.
@innerlight70182 ай бұрын
You completely remove the protective layer.
@andrewrance3 жыл бұрын
Offering no before and after photos of the different techniques and no links to purchase the brushes used in the demonstration gives me a feeling this video could have been better.
@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica3 жыл бұрын
Fair! We should've included some before and after shots. As for brushes we used an industrial hard-bristle brush.
@codyhughes1147 Жыл бұрын
@@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica your video was great. You explained everything as good as needed.
@ff-ti7nj Жыл бұрын
@@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica Hey I have some questions. Is the brushed ones less durable? Can any color including white be added to the surface without reducing its longevity?
@jakefranklin2698 ай бұрын
It used to look like wood. now it looks like this. Looks like a scrubbing brushes from home depot
@yutub5617 ай бұрын
I watched the preview on the thumbnail from my homepage and it was enough to know the tools and process after a few seconds. I think you just might need some extra help
@lucubration808Ай бұрын
So many asinine insufferable comments here. Yes wood charring to strengthen wood and grant it favorable qualities is a common concept in a lot of cultures and has been for a long time. This particular technique is part of the japanese group of techniques. Cavemen were not using heated steel tools to control the burn. Like here The vikings werent tying them in triangles to burn and wet brushing them in the particular way the japanese way prescribes. (Another yaki sugi technique not in this video)
@macleanclassics7 ай бұрын
3 guys an hour to transport, prep, burn brush, dry... all the steps.. yikes! Beautiful but, only $900 a square ft by the time you install it.(exaggeration) I got some on clearance for a bathroom feature wall, The lumber yard couldn't sell it... too expensive.
@timcrowley47776 ай бұрын
Pressure washer with a qualifiedan operating it. Perhaps 1200psi. Save Labor.
@NakamotoForestryNorthAmerica6 ай бұрын
While it'd be faster, we strongly advise against using pressure washers for knocking down the soot layer or washing yakisugi. The high pressure will damage the wood fibers, compromising the strength of the board
@TAGSlays6 ай бұрын
Shou Sugi Ban is a mistranslation and does not mean ANYTHING to Japanese culture. Yakisugi is a product in Japan that is made using cryptomeria cedar/cypress. Unless you use that exact wood and the exact process it is not Yakisugi let alone the made-up term Shou Sugi Ban. It is also quite disrespectful to Japanese culture.