DIY DECK Part 1 | Building a Box Beam

[@ejrafflintik9590]

I love seeing your boys growing up through the videos. Nate seems like a really lovely and gentle young man. All the best to all of you from Australia

[@lkurowic]

I really like the floating idea. I grew up in a high clay content area with a 42" frost line and saw those conditions pop any fence or desk post out of the ground unless given yearly attention. You are absolutely correct in that water will flow along until it reaches the post hole and down it will soak and cause all kinds of bad things to happen. Did I mention I hate clay.

[@Tiger28ism]

Love and gratitude can part seas, move mountains, and create miracles.

[@frankiehernandez9276]

Father figure right here!! Take notes 😌

[@alexj835]

The night before I start building my 12x24 floating deck I find this video where he’s building a 12x24 floating deck...and it changes everything 😂... thank you for this.

[@MichaelHoybook]

I'm not planning on building a deck but I just happened to find your video. I really enjoy your teaching style. I will subscribe!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Michael, looking forward to hearing from you.

[@thefrugallandlord2226]

Yeah, don't touch or fuck with his tools.

[@Adam-gn4oo]

i completly agree also the kid seemed really facinated with the level

[@billcoley8520]

I bought my very first impact drill yesterday. That thing is fun.

[@heavyfeather6682]

Thankyou for all the great instructional videos you make sir! I enjoy watching all of them i always learn something new another video well done.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks and Cheers!

[@shilowilson9023]

I stumbled across your shed building(on poured concrete slab) from start to finish series about a week ago. You are awesome at getting across to a normal person which is SOOOO refreshing, sense of humour too! I'm now subscribed! Would you consider building a little backyard greenhouse using recycled windows etc? Nothing too too fancy or complicated? Now THAT would be awesome! Blending some old materials with some new (as I will be attempting here in my backyard).... would be interesting to see how YOU do IT! AND THANKS FOR NOT RUINING YOUR VIDS WITH yapping unnaturally macho, or corny-style annoying music! from Saskatoon Sask.

[@arionnecoleman3206]

He can bolt the beams all he want to but when you rely on the bolts to hold the weight of that deck when the beams are NOT on top of the post....that's the problem. You shouldn't bolt the beams through the post on the sides. The beam needs to be on top of the post for support.

[@WhiteFox011]

Your videos are always so full of information! Good job!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Jeffory!

[@clairehawke200]

Hey! Loving your videos for all our diy projects so thanks. We need to build a floating deck for our walk out garage loft so it’s raised around 10 feet above the ground BUT we’re on bedrock so can’t get piles in or dig down for concrete foundations for the posts. We’re in Ontario and wondered if we should use these blocks for a deck that high...it’s only an 8’x8’ deck but will have a staircase down to ground level too. We had intended to attach it to the garage wall and dig down as far as we can and fill with gravel but after seeing your comments now not sure 🤔

[@shadowwolf2742]

Also i have read other negative comments about you building & making a full vídeo on building a entire deck, not many vídeos are done doing the who!e deck a lot of us are glad you did. Thank you for making a full vídeo was very helpful & enjoyed watching the entire vídeo👍

[@jacksond9266]

why not put beam on top of posts using galvanized post cap?

[@SqueakyClutch]

Hey isn’t it bad to have screws holding weight on the footing like you did? Shouldn’t you have your 4 by 4 holding all the weight?

[@Lemoi73]

Great information on why you didn't sink the posts into the ground. Thank you!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Truth is i would have preferred to put them into the ground however the city made it financially nonviable to the client as an option. They wanted 2x2 foot footings 5 feet down for each pier which would have added an extra $20,000 to the project in excavation and associated costs

[@bigdicktracy8827]

Stephanie Surprenant ..you should dig a hole..just use pressure treated 'rot resistant' lumber for the posts and rest of deck👍

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Rot resistant still rots over time. best deck assembly uses galvanized saddles into the concrete forms when you can use them.

[@iamrdman]

How much over hang are you allowed so you cannot see the blocks from the side and front.Building a 10x8 deck below 24 in

[@geoffrow]

Wouldn’t put those conc feet down on gravel without scalping the turf out first. Grass rots down and will lose height.

[@westerntrucker123]

Can you use the box beam for a deck just like that but also put a roof over it?

[@dustincook6529]

This video is super helpful! I was wondering if you have ever considered using the Tuff Block system for a floating deck? I am potentially going to build a deck for my brother this summer and wanted to know what your thoughts are ?

[@lynnejeffreys]

Hey Jeff, I was was watching your videos on rebuilding old decks. I have a 10 x 14 deck that needs to be dismantled to have brick work done. I was planing on reassembling it but desired after 23 years to change the design above. The framing is all in great shape, no rot. It is a floating deck. I plan to flip over the current deck boards since they have not been covered with anything other than wood preserver. The original top side was last covered in deck paint. The new brown colour of PT wood today is what I plan to have showing. My question is, can these boards be used flipped over even thought the crowns may not always be in the right direction now? After 23 years would they still cup a lot? I have power washed, sanded and added the micro Sienna brown wood preserver on 3 of the flipped sides and they look great. What was the name of the screws you used to attach the joist stringers? Back in the day I used the deck screws so there are newer products out there now. You also used those long 5” black screws that cost $3-$4 a screws, what are those called? Thank you for your help. Lynne Jeffreys

[@GageDrums]

An easy way to put those beams up on your own would be to subtract the thickness of the beam and screw a block of 2x4 that distance lower on one side.. Life the other into place, level it throw in a screw.. Then just make your minor adjustment to the other side!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

That would work great!

[@SidKneeGeo]

Would the rain wash the gravel under the concrete blocks away, then cause the blocks to sink?

[@MikeyM1422]

Hi’ love all that you do. Question: I’m on a hill. My deck will need to be high. I need it to be sturdy because I have parties. How do I need to start and make sure it’s REALLY sturdy for many to stand on?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

talk to a structural engineer to make plans for you

[@luisgaitero1]

How do you replace the roof of a shed?

[@kimedwards593]

Do you add any water to the limestone screening before placing the blocks?Do you have any videos showing building a deck around an onground pool about 24" above ground.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

no water just Brut strength. and not yet. cheers!

[@kimedwards593]

What size bag of limestone screening did you use under the deck blocks?

[@marlinweekley51]

Nice 5 year quickie deck - maybe 3 😆

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Oh Marlin, don't be such a smart ass! This deck will last at least 50 years.

[@marlinweekley51]

Home RenoVision DIY : glad to c u have a sense of humor 😁

[@kelseyhough841]

Where did you get the Limestone screening? We're about to build a deck and can't find that same stuff. All I've seen is Lawn & Garden (pulverized) Lime, L&G Pelletized Lime, and Masons Hydrated Lime (Type S). Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

[@laurenlockhart3481]

What do you think about Trex Decking instead of using standard wood deck boards?

[@petersamuel6597]

I am following your videos and doing my DIY for home in Mississauga Great

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hey Cheers to the folks who live near Square One!

[@oscarkapac13]

I'm building a deck with 4 6X6 post, where I put on them 2 beam made by 3 8X2X8, which should be 6... I have 6x6 galvanized links ( U shape) to link the beam to the post. BUT... the 8X2X8 are not 2 in width (I'm a beginner, didn't know), they are 1 and 1/2. So I have a large gap on the "U-galvanized" link, which is less than 2 so I cannot add a 4th lumber, but I need to feel the gap.... Any idea is welcome :) Thanks :)

[@polarbear7830]

Mr Jeff. Have u done a porch to outer room (conservatory) conversion on any of your videos?? Love you show Sir...all the way from Scandanavia

[@gokalpaksu5806]

Hi I love you channel Mr Jeff . I have one question if you have a chance recommend power tolls list must everyone buy it. Drill, circular saw etc.. and if you don't mind I reall want to know about your favorite brand and model. Because in this time I read all reviews and users complained about the quality which is some popular brand never ever sell that low quality . You are the master of this business I trust your preferences than others. Thank you so much for your time.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers I will get on that!

[@-ray-h]

Hey Jeff... I see you son like the Steelers. I live in Pittsburgh Pa... What size shirt does he wear?

[@lindahebertprahl8768]

How do you decide if a deck is floating or attached to the house?

[@Bewefau]

"If they have a party that exceeds that I want to be there" XD

[@Tzarsio]

how does it get it's strength? it seems to wobble like crazy, not sure I've seen how you stabilize this.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

cross braces. once you finish the build it is solid as a rock. Cheers!

[@PedroPatricioFreitas]

Hi Jeff, first time asking a question here. I learned a lot from your videos. I'm in Toronto on a stable sandy soil (60+ year old house). I'd like to build a floating deck (old brick house. I am not confident attaching a ledger) using concrete block and 6x6 posts. Can I go with a deck the the total high of approx. 3-4 feet? I see yours is a similar high? 17' x 19' deck approx.

[@forhizglory1]

Where do find the limestone concrete stuff

[@dimitrisoteropoulos2359]

That beam design relies completely on the shear strength of the bolts and not the axial load of the posts. The beam should be sitting on the posts rather than connected as you have it.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Oh Dimitri, let's not get carried away with structural strength. We are not bridging the Mississippi river here just building a deck. The reality is the shear strength of those bolts is almost equal to the axial strength of the wood. Regardless it would be quite impossible to overload this deck with people to the point of failure. perhaps If I stacked dump trucks up past the roof there would be a problem, but alas that is not likely to happen.

[@yttomass]

May be true but here in the states that would not pass an inspection

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I am going to do a little research and let you know. I doubt that the harsh climate I live in has less stringent rules than in the states where it doesn't get as cold.

[@glennimmortal]

I from NZ it would not pass our inspections either, that being said if i am building a none consented deck (any deck under 1M in height) I often use this Technique because is simple fast and strong, that being said it would be stronger to rests the bearer on the post but you would lose some canter lever ability having the joists flitched together.

[@svWinded]

I'm building a floating deck at the moment a little bigger than what you have there. Our code requires post spacing of 4' under the beams. My beams are then required to be 2' apart. Your design there would never pass here in Ontario.

[@iansimpson6553]

How do you space out your deck blocks and 4x4? I’m looking to build a 16x12 platform. Also, what size lumber do you recommend for that size of platform, as far as box frame and hoist are concerned?

[@TheSNIPERmac]

Hi Jeff. Still loving the videos. Quick question for you. How do you keep up with all the regulations in your area?

[@elisabethdow7048]

You mentioned asking an inspector about soil conditions...I believe we are on layers of slate, very hard to dig, would we be okay with blocks? GO STEELERS!!!!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Best to do a quick google search for your area but if you are on slate then most likely a surface deck is quite normal. Go Orange!

[@elisabethdow7048]

Home RenoVision DIY I really want a patio made of wood, we have a decent sized area off our slider before our yard really slopes down. 🙂

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

@@elisabethdow7048 we are releasing a video tonight of a project we just finished in Toronto . It has a surface level deck finished with Brazilian hardwood that is a great DIY living space. The deck will last 75 years and has almost 0 maintenance. Cheers!

[@elisabethdow7048]

Home RenoVision DIY Thank you!!!! I’ll pop the popcorn!! I really need help with the basement. We had a sewer backup last summer, which the town eventually claimed responsibility for, but wouldn’t help reimburse. It was a complete tear out & a $30k loss. I need to pour a new floor to level it before laminate flooring (I think), new framing, drywall, etc, its a piecemeal project....overwhelmed (whew!!)

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

@@elisabethdow7048 sounds like you could use a basement workshop. Cheers!

[@ronbond3777]

My question is why didn't you just dig below frost line add your concrete let it cure over night then add your posts get them level and plumb and add dirt and tamp the dirt as you add? That would accommodate for what you were doing. Just wondering.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

The city wanted me to install bigfoot footings. This would have required us to excavate the entire back yard to 5' deep. Totally ridiculous. And you wonder why people work without permits!

[@ronbond3777]

Home RenoVision DIY that's jusy crazy. Smh.. here in Maryland building code is one of the most strict ever

[@craigbarsamian9214]

The short answer...hes a hack

[@rf4215]

deck screws to hold everything together? i don't think so.

[@christopherjordan2230]

Question about the deck blocks and gravel: what prevents the gravel from washing away, and the deck blocks subsequently moving over time? Thanks-

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Not sure but when it rains that stone gets down right sticky!

[@andrewwolfgang7461]

What kind of gravel did you put below the foundation blocks? I tried rewinding several times, couldn't catch it.

[@DR87408]

Limestone gravel. Could use pea shingle

[@zacsampson9681]

How secure are the deck blocks?

[@ajcruises5777]

Great Videos. Thanks for sharing. i'll be using a design like this for our trailer up north this Summer. One question I have is about the diagonal bracing you used lengthwise on the posts. I understand why they are there. To hold the posts / deck form swaying or tipping lengthwise on the deck blocks.. The lag bolts on the box beams hold it form swaying width wise. Are the lengthwise diagonal braces permanent or do you use another method to stabilize the deck lengthwise that I missed in the video? If those braces are permanent, are they just screwed or do they need to be lagged? If you have any references you could share if need be I'd appreciate it. Thanks again.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

those braces are permanent. if you are concerned you could buy some structural screws to toss in there. Cheers!

[@johnclark2340]

Hey Jeff, If I'm going to put a hot tub on one end of this deck. Do I need to add additional deck blocks and post for the increased weight?

[@thebigone6028]

Man you should really notch the 4x4s . Your deck most likely will fail if you don't.

[@GixxerMark76]

I just built an edition to our existing deck last summer. Now it's time to stain! Since we deal with lots of heat in the summer and lots of cold in the winter, what would you recommend for a good stain? I like the new solid stains that Lowes, Can Tire, Rona etc sell since it will tie the old in with the new, but the reviews are all saying the stuff peals up after one or two seasons. What would you recommend using?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I don't recommend any stain. I prefer a clear sealer. lasts longer and easier to maintain.

[@veconsports7650]

Thanks for making this video. I cant get limestone screenings in NJ. Should I use tiny marble gravel instead?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

stone dust is your best option.

[@garethking5122]

Hiya, great video, what are those white blocks called you are putting the posts into? Thanks.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

deck blocks. cheers!

[@kilaasimller2422]

Hi, I live in Greenland and I want to build a 40 square meters cabin in the fiord. I want to know how it can look like and how to build it. I have a drawing, but I can not send it to you via this link

[@Bobby-ut7qr]

So it’s safe to use Pier Blocks for a ground level deck

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

in most d areas yes. Best to check with the local building office. Cheers!

[@Bobby-ut7qr]

Thank you I will, I live in Massachusetts

[@brandongregory5195]

The beams are relying on the strength of the screws, if the screws in one beam fail that beam falls, code where I am is that the beam must be over the post to provide actual structure support, if that's code where you are no worries, but you might start putting the beams over the posts as an added strength in the future Good video though!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Brandon, We are relying on the 20001b shear strength of each bolt. 2 bolts per post which is 8000 lbs per beam. the load for this deck is 64000 lbs on the top section alone. This is why we are confident.Just a thought. an engineer could approve using this system even if your code does not allow it. It installs much faster and gives you greater flexibility in designing.

[@georgemckeown3116]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Regardless of your math, it is simply not to code in Canada, period. The province of Ontario guideline is clear - beams on top of posts. You should read the code and stop posting information that violates building codes. I can only imagine what the deck looks like after 3 years of Ottawa snow and ice loads.

[@daleon96]

@@georgemckeown3116 your a douche

[@WhittyOne]

I was thinking the same thing. It's just relying on shear strength of the fasteners. With the right fastener, it may be fine. I see it all the time afterall, but most would say that its wrong. And if the right fastener isn't used then its totally wrong, and a collapse liability. Beams should bear wright directly on top of posts. All home inspectors would call that out as a defect. Even ACA says that's wrong. However, I do believe Jeff is a really smart guy and knows what he's doing. I don't think he's just some slug making bogus content. He's definitely put out great stuff that I really appreciate watching and am thankful for his contributions. He's helped thousands of people with this channel.

[@emeraldlawncare7002]

Hello Jeff, thanks for the great video. I had a few questions. I live in upstate NY, If ground level deck was built with this type of design (deck blocks) would there be any risk of uplift? Also, could a canvas awning be attached on top of the deck? Thanks

[@mykel_]

Hi I see that there are no replies and so I thought I would reply. My dad's friend is a professional but not a licensed carpenter. All decks would have risks of uplift and you can attach the canvas awning on your house roof to the railings of your deck

[@lyndior8963]

As a former inspector, 2 bits of concern. Rain water passing through the deck or surface drain water can erode the limestone base below the top footing blocks and relying on a few screws into the joists to hold hundreds of pounds of decking plus hundreds of pounds of furniture plus hundreds of pounds of people is a sure way to create a bunch of future firewood. I didn't see any triangular bracing to any solid point of any degree, so when it comes tumbling down, it will all collapse in rapid swinging moving style. Homeowner's insurance may decline a claim for coverage on a non permitted deck over 3 ft in height. Otherwise great entertaining video.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

thanks for the input however this was permitted and had an engineer involved. I guess things are different where you are from.

[@samoanSAIYAN]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY mah niggah

[@tahseenn9615]

You know Jeff this would probably be my first comment on a video...Thanks a million for taking the time and effort to produce these amazing and highly beneficial videos. Naysayers will always be around...brush them off as you would a tick. I have found this series (on decks - I haven't looked at the others yet - I will when I need them) to be very helpful. Keep up the good work. One question - since they are on blocks and not in the ground what prevents the beams from moving sideways i.e. falling over completely to one side or the other? I saw where you strapped them with 2x4s but I thought those were temporary? Is it that the joists would be fastened to them thus keeping them in place? Hope I am making sense here...

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thank you for commenting. It is so vital for us to get feedback from our viewers. The posts are kept in place by the horizontal and diagonal bracing. All of that is permanent and covered by a finished skirting. Cheers and good luck with your project.

[@ievgeniigutyria9689]

Hi, thanks for the video, very informative!!! just to confirm, you added some water to limestone prior putting blocks on top? I'm getting ready to build 12x16 bloating deck (first time) trying to see how many blocks I will need and what distance should be in between them. Thank you very much in advance.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

box beams should be every 6" unless you want to use 2x10 as floor joist. The water helped to compact the stone and gives me uniform settling right away.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

oops 6' apart

[@ievgeniigutyria9689]

Thanks a lot for your response! I actually, could not find Limestone in my local stores (I live in Maryland) I think I'm just going to stick with putting blocks on the ground, unless you have any other suggestion?

[@melvinware4692]

Yeh, who make the limestone screening I can't find either

[@kelseyhough841]

@@melvinware4692 I couldn't find any either. The only thing I've seen is Lawn & Garden (Pulverized OR Pelletized) Lime and Masons Hydrated Lime (Type S). Not sure if any of those would be along the same lines.

[@mcgeorgeblaize9326]

Hi! I have learnt so much from your videos. A question; how much would a contractor charge me to a build 16 x 12 floating deck if i provide the materials?

[@bigdaddydiesel63]

What size boards are you using for the box beams? Looks like 2X10?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

yes. 2x12 if covering a larger span

[@bigdaddydiesel63]

I plan on building a 12'X20" deck would the 2X10's be ok spanning 12 foot? Thanks for doing these videos, I love the straight forward easy DIY build!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

no problem. enjoy your living space.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

we use 2x10 to span 16 ' indoors so why not!

[@dalepres1]

Clamp a scrap to support the beam board and you don't need two people. Clamps are cheaper than labor.

[@daleon96]

its his son dude

[@Flintsmooth]

You can't use 2x6 joists in Ontario on decks with guards, or on decks over 24" high. Must be 2x8 or bigger.

[@chrisssttina]

what was the material cost for this?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

around $9000. deck glass and fence.

[@raphaelb.2350]

Hi ODB, great series of videos. I have a question about the limestone screening. Are you not worried that the rain would ultimately flush it from under the blocks? Also I read (no first-hand experience) that limestone can break down over time and cause failure when compared to concrete sand. Any opinion on this? Thank you!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Limestone screenings under pressure actually resist erosion. as a safeguard we actually encased the piles with cement for added protection. And with any pier construction it is important to have access under the structure in case there is future need to shore up or re level any of the build.

[@samuelhenry9959]

Ok good and plans

[@Mrs_Dale]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@KravMike08]

I love the idea of the box beam but that would never pass code in Amerika..... You would have to notch the post first and then your fine.....

[@Sarbet888]

How far to each other the blocks should be? I am planning to build a simple rectangular deck.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

with 2x6 5' with 2x8 6'

[@livinglifeinthenorth8512]

I thought box beams were illegal in Ontario?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

nope. whoever told you that was mistaken.

[@jv-hy9xs]

Love your videos, that is, the info you are giving. But please cut back on the music especially when you are talking. Preferably no music at all.

[@aqua.scape69]

How high can I go when using the concrete blocks before I need cross bracing?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

12" is the norm.Thanks

[@klaybeck8518]

Wrong install for your post and joist.only the bolt is holding the weight.just saying

[@TRUpachucos]

I really don't like how you're relying COMPLETELY on those screws for shear strength...NO go in my book...BUT...live and learn I guess...and then get Luvs 😉

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

If you continued to watch you would see we are relying on the 1/2 inch bolts.Cheers!

[@TRUpachucos]

Home RenoVision DIY ...from what you 'spoke' of yes...but didn't see any 1/2" bolts go in...and to be quite honest ppl (DIYers do & copy as they see not as they're told...food for thought on your future videos/endeavors.

[@rhfleming2099]

Can't hear the video very well. Audio needs boosting.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

sorry about that. it is an old video. Cheers!

[@limitedplay]

Two questions. Why does no one use post holes anymore lol also what happened to ledger boards? No one uses those either.

[@bigunone]

Floating deck so it isn't attached to the house which I would guess is a manufactured home by the hight above grade. In the begining he talks about how posts buried in soil would be subject to frost heaving and rot in his area

[@bigunone]

First I can not believe the number people who apparently didn't watch the whole video before calling for your burning at the stake for using screws to hold up your beam, apparently in their need to tell you were wrong they didn't see you bolting it together. If yo'all can do better do your own video and show us. It was good to see a father and son working together, make me miss my dad even more. I missed how big is this part of the deck, and how many posts and distance apart? /

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

One of the funny things about KZbin. folks who comment a little prematurely. Thanks for watching the whole video. Cheers! When using a 2x6 frame the beams should be 5' apart. But always check your local building office if you are building with a permit first.

[@bigunone]

What about 2x12 in the video you mention 2x6 and 2x8. No building inspectors where I live, well there are but they aren't going to drive down the dirt roads open the gates... LOL

[@whales302]

Check your city codes, they don't allow box beam construction anymore.

[@FreeBladez]

I would never even want to walk on this. Lawsuit heaven on your ass

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Don't be ridiculous!

[@scrapeyhawkins5299]

I guess if it's 5 and a half it's not really a 2x6...

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

No it is really a 2x6 it is just good to know that dimensional lumber has gotten a little smaller over the years .

[@mlgfelix8979]

Do not do this , the weight of the deck relies primarily on the bolts! Yes bolts are strong but put 10 people on that deck that’s easily over a 1000 pounds be safe .

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hi, we used 22 structural bolts on that deck. rated for 5000 lbs each. that is more than 220 lbs of shear / sq ft. no worries.

[@Ken_Kollection]

Did i see what i think i saw. Did you guys really just screw the deck to the posts. At least you could have used lag bolts. You are relying ENTIRELY on the shear strength of a couple of small screws. You should have notched out the posts so that the weight of the deck is actually on the posts instead of the screws. One small party on that deck, an you're getting sued. Sorry. It does look very pretty, but its going to collapse soon.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

di you fall asleep during the video Ken. That deck has over 20 carriage bolts in it to carry over 100,000lbs.

[@brettweishalla3681]

​@@HomeRenoVisionDIY He did not fall asleep during the video. Go look at the video, or to save time just look 15 seconds before the end. You will clearly see both ends of two beams with no sign of a carriage bolt. Maybe you added them eventually, but it wasn't in the video that he just asked about.

[@DJ-tw8kg]

Sandwich the 4x4 with the beams and screws are so unsafe and your not worried bout structure you should be worried bout being sued and what you are teaching your help the incorrect way it does not matter whete your located that's unsafe and wrong

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Dean however we used bolts as well. Our inspectors passed the build so I will choose to trust them over you, Cheers! Perhaps things are different where you are!

[@bigdicktracy8827]

at least get a decent helper😅

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks dick. I am always glad to have my boys work with me. They are young and are getting a great home reno education working with me.Lunch is always great fun too.

[@teebarbarino]

Home Reno Vision DIY awesome reply! Great seeing a father pass along his trade to his sons.

[@markmeyer92]

just came across this video, love your teaching style. your son is a lucky young man to have you as teacher, at some point in his life he will fully appreciate this time he spent with you, even if he doesn't become a carpenter. "big dick" is just that...... poor guy.

[@jamesrobinson9558]

Box beam outlawed in most states. Resders your house worthless

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Actually if you add hurricane straps then an engineer can stamp the build.

[@mikepearl5051]

I thought they could be used for detached structures. Not a contractor though.

[@mattfelt2244]

The screws are holding the load not the beams

[@billcoley8520]

Your son does not seem interested in learning basic skills of carpentry.

[@robertlongley5731]

After all the comments you would think that you would take this video down . Bolts through the posts is the dumbest thing you could possibly tell people to do . 5000 lbs shear strength bolts in lumber . The lumber splits very easily along the length . So your 5000 lbs shear strength is down to nothing when the load splits the wood . Admit this is wrong and take this down . If a inspector passed this he should be fired. What other excuse for your mistake are you going to come up with? No frost footings,no proper beam supports ,no joist hangers,no beam . Ridiculous unsafe deck

[@jonathanchristian9696]

Beams are wrong, should sit on top of posts. Enjoy the dangerous unsafe deck!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Not Wrong where I live. Cheers!

[@willardgreenfield650]

your design is a major structural loads error...

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I would appreciate a discussion if you want o point out anything specific.

[@willardgreenfield650]

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[@tomgle]

Most codes don't allow deck construction like this anymore. The supporting lumber needs to rest on the beam not bolted to it like they did a decade or more ago.

[@DavidSmith-rv2hw]

Home reno, you still alive?

[@philipduffy6581]

Really you probably shouldn't notch either if you are putting the joists on top of the post. It will create a void to trap water in the center of the post which will rot it over time, probably won't last as long as the bolt method even. If you are placing the joists on top of the post you can run a plate up the side of the post and joist and secure it that way.

[@hpiccus]

He said, "in the winter time the whole deck will lift together. In the spring, the whole deck will settle together." That sounds really stupid. He built a deck that moves around every six months. He seems to expect nature to occur uniformly and linearly. The video is very entertaining, but I would not build a structure like that. It's nit going to work.

[@pistolpete5356]

How not to build a floating deck

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

LOL,

[@kirkwilliams6938]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this method for what they are doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@frankgalligan9111]

Not right at all at all.Ibc tells all

[@P.L.M.]

You were so skinny back then.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I plan on getting that skinny again soon. Cheers!

[@61spindrift]

I have not finished watching and at about 8+ minutes in. Nor have a read single comment yet. But I am shaking my head and thinking you actually put this video up as "instructional"? First a box beam? No not in my area in Maine. Now I am at the part where you are connecting the beam to the post and can not believe the fasteners you are using. Are those phillips head and not even posi-drive? I do not believe they are even structural fasteners. The shear strength of those screws are not acceptable in my opinion and I am only a home owner/non professional carpenter. This connection WILL fail! Maybe not tomorrow but when the homeowner least expects it and maybe has a cookout with guests on it, that is when it will fail. I may be wrong and talking out my ass for lack of knowledge but in 2019 as I watch this can not be code or even acceptable for a do-it-yourselfer. Going to complete the video and then read comments and I hope others agree. I do appreciate you taking the time to make this video however.

[@61spindrift]

finished the video and caught where you say your also beam to post...so spoke to soon. Still believe this could be not to code in most area's especially the beam design. Again thanks for taking the time to make this video.

[@nikfish1]

Wow that whole deck is hanging off a dozen or so screws. Bad job.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

28 1/2 inch carriage bolts to be exact. more structural strength than required for 2 decks this size.

[@jacksoncloninger6367]

Something about this guy I don't like.

[@James-eg7jd]

So don't watch, weirdo.

[@matts5799]

How do you know if that type of base is ok for a different kind of yard?