I won't lie. You are one of the best "how to" channels I've come across in a long time. The way the steps are explained are very well understood and you make projects much less intimidating to approach. I'm very grateful to have found your channel! Keep up the good work!
@bryanwells18373 жыл бұрын
WARNING. After using rigidizer you you ABSOLUTELY NEED to coat with a refractory cement. Rigidizer should be applied once the kaowool is installed as you you saw that folding it opened creases that were not exposed to the rigidizer. Rigidizer just helps keep fibers down while you're putting refractory on. Running that forge without refractory is DANGEROUS as just as many fibers that cause silicosis and cancer are being spewed out. THIS WILL RUIN YOUR LUNGS!
@bryanwells18373 жыл бұрын
This is a great video but you CANT SKIP THAT STEP!
@Stefubi4 ай бұрын
@@bryanwells1837Can you give a quick explanation on how to do this??
I honestly can't believe this channel doesn't have more subscribers
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Our road to world domination is a long one, but it is full of great people that make the journey worth it 😁
@Kamalablows3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda annoying
@darrinrebagliati53652 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree Merlin's old school garage: turn your alternator into a welder.
@Marcoose81 Жыл бұрын
Could be the weird satanic stuff, lol
@ikantspel55355 ай бұрын
he pours it on a little too thick. Needs to chill a bit with all that clever acting. His target audience is smiths not 13 year old kids.
@The_Bell_Tower2 жыл бұрын
for paint removal, a wire wheel would work better on your grinder. heats up the paint less, and doesn't gum up like a flap disk.
@edwardhunts3 жыл бұрын
Be aware that the galvanized hardware you used will release highly toxic zinc fumes, I'd recommend using stainless steel instead
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
All stainless! I made sure not to use galvanized anything. Made that mistake with the foundry bucket
@edwardhunts3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree it's hard to tell, the hinge and feet looked like galvanized, glad to hear they're not!
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardhunts it is a thing I wish I said in the video. It's an important point. Super dangrous and, in a lot of hardware stores, the black pipe and the galvanized are side by side and someone might mix and match not knowing.
@The_Ashling3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree I came here to check this too :P
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
@@The_Ashling thanks for caring for my safety!
@dirtybird22022 жыл бұрын
His burner is made with gas pipe which is black pipe and brass, Black Pipe is Not Galvanised, it is instead coated with a dissolvable coating in many cases just a oil, or a cheap lacquer coating on the black pipe is iron and rust readly. Coat with a barbecue paint and it won't rust do a burn in outside and you good to go. The pipe parts let dry overnight then heat them up with a torch let cool and you're good to go. Have even seen waxed coated black pipe. The feet on the other hand probably won't get hot enough to dispel zinc gas off due to the heat proofing material inside, this material works very well at keeping the majority of the heat on the inside. And you can make or even buy these angles and hinges in black iron for gates so that would be the way to go. though if worried about zinc poisoning just rough them up and spray with a barbecue paint let dry. Though always take every precaution and necessary steps for your safety and others. you can get a good refractory material by the bucket depends on your wallet. By the way the feet are quick scaled at the factory which means they are quick dipped and generally it is Galvanized then balled milled to get that shiny look, some are electroplated. Though some manufacturers use other metals or have other treatments to ward off rust as well. Why I would recommend that you just get some cheap iron Black fence brackets and hinges, you can find latches to, and iron stove bolts, if your going to use bolts. That resolves any issues you might have to begin with. These are just a hard black painted non galvanized iron. Surprised you didn't just make some rivets and riveted them on with your small forge. You can use 16 penny nails non galvanised , that's the common nail used in most structural carpentry. Just cut to length, heat till a nice cherry red, and rivet them in place. I use to use those very brackets under houses because they didn't rust. It really is a good little furnace by the way for small projects, annealing and hardening or metal working projects. If you want to get into metal welding the old fashioned way, get some 20 Mule Team laundry soap as it's nothing but straight 100% Borax. Which is what to use for your flux, for metal forging and welding. A box will last you for years, just keep it dry. You don't need to buy any special fluxes for forging and welding doing blacksmithing.
@jarekmace15363 жыл бұрын
Awesome no-weld build! Like you say, not everyone has or can justify buying a welder. So, your gas port turned out to be conveniently in the optimal place when you built that part, keeping the valve away from the forge. For other/future builds, I suggest assembling all the brass parts except the end cap, and aligning that in the reducer to place the valve, etc. in the angle desired, then mark/drill the gas port. When assembling pipes, you may not always get the parts rotated to where you want them, but NEVER unscrew them to reach the angle you want/need! Instead, tighten slowly to reach that point. Brass stretches, flexes, bends when its tightened. Loosening it can create leak points, even if it feels tightly assembled.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
GREAT POINT! I am glad I lucky stumbled into a good configuration, I would have been so upset if the orifice was pointing up and the pipe was running into the body of the forge LOL.
@wills51592 жыл бұрын
I know this is late, but still might be helpful for anyone who is using propane tanks... one of the vids i looked at a while back suggested filling the tank with water before making any cuts. just to be sure there is not gas left in the tank. This concept applies to any place when there is something flammable.
@TheInsaneTD2 жыл бұрын
Something worth looking at for extra safety is a Flash Back Arrestor/suppressor. Normally used for Oxy/Acetylene torches, you can also get them for other flammable gasses. Regulators don't always have them built in, even expensive ones. Should be able to get them from where you get your gas from. Otherwise welding suppliers do have them.
@VTRAddict6 ай бұрын
In a naturally aspirated propane system like this, there is no benefit in having a flashback arrestor. In a system running oxy, it's possible for oxygen to be forced back into the propane hose (or vice versa) which can create a combustible mix, but in this system that's impossible. Pure propane will not and can not burn without oxygen, and it is impossible for it to burn back up the hose or inside the bottle.
@geoffallert19212 жыл бұрын
Small piece of advice, Have confidence in your abilities. You're doing better than most.
@Mk1SpitfireGuy2 жыл бұрын
Tip: if using a propane tank, before doing anything else, fill it completely with water then empty it. This will displace any residual propane and prevent any high-temperature unpleasantness.
@undoubtedcrow8010 Жыл бұрын
How about an AC refrigerant tank?
@christophercarroll19772 жыл бұрын
You forgot to apply a coat of refractory cement.
@dreamer1928Ай бұрын
He didn't forget. He doesn't know😂
@MakerCuisine3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best forge tutorials I've ever seen
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@Ammoniummetavanadate3 жыл бұрын
Other note: Files only cut in one direction, if you drag them back over the edge you will dull them faster.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
I did no know that! Thank you😁👍
@bryanwells18373 жыл бұрын
Unless it’s a double cut file.
@GiovanniGiorgo2 жыл бұрын
Common misconception, it really doesn’t matter.
@dkironworks40372 жыл бұрын
@@GiovanniGiorgo ^This, it was disproven with testing. Cheap files may be subject to different rules.
@davfree97322 жыл бұрын
Also, depending on the grind, stoking in one direction only gives you more control over the finish.
@GeekRedux2 жыл бұрын
Fun video and this looks like a great project...BUT... The most dangerous bit isn't the burners, it's the insulation that you only soaked with rigidizer without covering it with refractory cement. Dude. YOU HAVE TO COVER THE INSULATION BLANKET WITH REFACTORY CEMENT. As long as that blanket can shed fibers, it's a hazard.
@MythicFables3 жыл бұрын
Turn a railroad spike into a classy knife/letter opener. Style it as you like! Railroad spikes are super easy to get and I've heard they're a great starter project for amateur blacksmiths to learn with. Rebar can also be used! (though I usually see rebar turned into medieval looking fork/knife/spoons)
@dinodog60683 жыл бұрын
Love this build, will use it myself. Some satinite will make the ceramic fiber insulation much safer and last longer, and you won't need the second layer.
@Whatdoesthismean.g3 жыл бұрын
U are too underrated. Pls dont ever stop making these m8
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am glad you enjoy the content!
@Texas_krazy25 күн бұрын
If anyone is wondering what the tank is called, it’s an expansion tank that you install on your called water line in case the pressure in your water line ever surges past the operating water pressure (typical between 40-60 psi). The tank has the rubber bladder in it so it can expand with that extra pressure as to not damage your water piping system.
@johnmathison29276 ай бұрын
One suggestion is to use some kind of cutting oil for your metal drilling and tapping. I’ve even used WD-40 when I was out of cutting oil. It will make the cuts easier, and help your bits to last a lot longer.
@michaelsexton1703 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to make my own forge and a foundry for a while. Excellent build.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I am glad you enjoyed!
@bryanwells18373 жыл бұрын
WARNING. After using rigidizer you you ABSOLUTELY NEED to coat with a refractory cement. Rigidizer should be applied once the kaowool is installed as you you saw that folding it opened creases that were not exposed to the rigidizer. Rigidizer just helps keep fibers down while you're putting refractory on. Running that forge without refractory is DANGEROUS as just as many fibers that cause silicosis and cancer are being spewed out. THIS WILL RUIN YOUR LUNGS!
@Chef0472 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just picked up two propane tanks yesterday… and this video will definitely help in building my little forge! Thanks!!
@wills51592 жыл бұрын
for anyone who is using propane tanks... one of the vids i looked at a while back suggested filling the tank with water before making any cuts. just to be sure there is not gas left in the tank. I know its late, but I think i will ass this to the main comments
@leighchristopherson24553 жыл бұрын
Just a tip. I believe that I saw your vise has two sets of jaws, it can be flipped yes? The bottom set of jaws is designed for pipe. You won't have issues with the pipe slipping out of the vise if you use the right jaws. Probably this will help with keeping you tap square as well.
@l.tp.ttomasiyo50612 жыл бұрын
Love how you go into detail on with every projects you make. Keep up the good 👍🏽 work.
@BartJBols3 жыл бұрын
The spring, once heated will lose its springyness real fucking fast.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
I thought of that. I can replace it if need be but thus far the bottom hasn't gotten nearly to the temperature for it to be a concern. The spring, at its hottest, has gotten mildly uncomfortable to touch. I will keep you posted when it decides to give up the ghost
@KarlRoyale3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree put a small bit of the insulation cloth between the body of the forge and the spring. Like a round bit from the hole you cut...
@michaelmayfield69683 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the build. This is awesome. May the smithing God's smile upon you.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
And you as well! May your forge be hot and your hammer fall true.
@landersiqueiros65383 жыл бұрын
I’m back and I’m ready to make a Hell Pig!
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Hope you like it!
@nclementi37363 жыл бұрын
I have an idea. You should take a regular chair and turn it in to a nice throne chair in which you can sit with your fancy wizard hat and smoke your pipe.
@OutlandStation8 ай бұрын
Came here from the latest camping tools video. Giving a great tutorial a boost.
@fckickboxer2 жыл бұрын
I’m building a forge this weekend. This was one of the best videos I’ve seen of a build so far. But I’m definitely buying a welder at Harbor Freight and going to weld it. Will be easier.
@Distractedby_shinythings3 жыл бұрын
I have to say I LOVE how enthusiastic and into what you make u are U are just purely enthusiasm Oh yh and we at skill tree take no responsibility for 'loss of life' 🤣
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
I DO love the things I get to make here. Carries me away 😅
@Distractedby_shinythings3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree as u should be. No ones judging
@theprince7946 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate it’s perfect work keep it up good work but can we push the pipe all the way to pass the insulation inside the tank because I don’t like the flame touch the insulation wall give me your opinion please thanks
@michaeljohnston2433 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would change is to add a damper of some kind to help control your air/fuel mixture
@aaronlittle54783 жыл бұрын
Holy cats, man, nice work! That might work for metal clay projects.
@HikuroMishiro3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't actually heard of metal clay before, but looking it up it's pretty neat.
@aaronlittle54783 жыл бұрын
@@HikuroMishiro I never pulled the trigger to work with it myself, but it looks like you can get a nice combination of organic and inorganic (industrial?) shapes.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍 I had never heard of this material either and now I want to use it BADLY! Great call!
@aaronlittle54783 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree that'd be sick, man! You get to combine your clay working experience plus fire! It's pretty ... metal.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronlittle5478 🤣🤣🤣🤣 BUH DUM TSSSS!
@CorsoWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
That was such a pleasure to watch! Probably your best video yet! (and that's saying something!)
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, bro! It was super fun to do😁
@panagiotidisyannis415 Жыл бұрын
put some one-way-valve to your system realy adds security into it. Just be sure your valve is rated for gas
@OutlandStation8 ай бұрын
Also, I love Fallout and that vibe was right on.
@mrchuck33382 жыл бұрын
I would recommend adjusting your ball valve lever angle.
@ethandunbar68162 жыл бұрын
DUDE!! This is amazing! My biggest hang up making a forge is lack of welding. THANK YOU!! That being said I have Mal's Browncoat that I'd like to modify with some knot work. How would you embroider leather? The coat is made of suede and I don't have a machine to use. How do?
@dreamer1928Ай бұрын
It's not a water filter device. It's an expansion bladder to compensate for thermal expansion from your water heater cycling. And to strip the paint, you could have just sprayed Klean-Strip Paint stripper. Waited 20 mins, and washed the paint off. Also, you better put some cement on that insulation or you're gonna kill your respiratory system.
@craigbryant99252 жыл бұрын
🤣 Okay this is such an awesome video to find. I have one of those tanks that needs to be replaced and I was looking at it the other day thinking "Hmmm. This would make a really awesome little forge." Now you need to make a few crucibles for smelting, so that you can cast pendants, clasps, random cool shiny things.
@craigbryant99252 жыл бұрын
I'm still working my way through your back catalogue, maybe you have already done so.
@Shipfixer7 ай бұрын
I was looking for a calm cool way to build a forge. Instead I get a guy who sounds like a used car salesman screaming at me.
@matteohavettudela81696 ай бұрын
Salut c’est possible de le faire entièrement avec du ciment fondue ?
@chuckwaltrip70202 жыл бұрын
Love the design, but encourage caution when it comes to any galvanized parts. Once heated, those fumes can be quite toxic. For whatever that is worth to folks.
@magnusmorius24093 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Geralt’s sword from the Witcher to go with your bracers!
@redknight45613 жыл бұрын
just give us the sword episode now or else I will summon the gates of hell to curse you
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Silly! If you open the gates of hell I will just stroll out!
@redknight45613 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree didnt think of that
@Scalesthelizardwizard3 жыл бұрын
I think Littel Oreo will have a "word" with you if you do that 😁
@redknight45613 жыл бұрын
Seriously make the sword tho
@JediOfTheRepublic3 жыл бұрын
Gloves would probably be some wise to invest in.
@BlackBeastWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
I have most of everything I need to make a forge but I've been putting it off for a while because my work space has become incredibly cluttered due to people using it as storage space. Maybe this is a signt to clean it up and get my forge made finally? So many projects I've wanted to start but can't yet.
@systemedmultimedia65263 жыл бұрын
Nicely done ! Only thing though, it's only for outside projects (not udeable at all in the middle of winter). Can I challenge you to make one entirely safe for in-house/inside use as a bonus project ? But seriously, very nice work. Looking forward for your future projects. Keep up with the good work.
@dragonslyer742 жыл бұрын
I know I'm behind the curve on this one but I totally think that you should forge a fork a knife and a spoon so that when you go larping you don't have to use Silverware out of the event
@jakekland92502 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this channel, you should definetly look to forge Anduril flame of the west or something.
@vik65503 жыл бұрын
Another great vid man, props! Random thought, would a Hephaestus Hog produce damascus bacon? 🥓🤔
@alexandermoran77833 жыл бұрын
Yes a beautiful fire piggy
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
The Bacon of Blaze, The Sausage of Sizzle, The Ham of Hades!
@LaineyBug20203 жыл бұрын
Can't think of anything clever to say so... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@coolhandluke19803 жыл бұрын
How did you cut the threads into the tank for the 1.5 in pipe nipple?
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
No threads needed. The wall of the tank is thin enough where the thread has no issue grabbing on. Good luck!😁
@Scalesthelizardwizard3 жыл бұрын
Forge a dagger for the Corrupted Druid or a metal wand for a war mage
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of CLAWS for the Druid 😃
@Scalesthelizardwizard3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree Even better
@hunterbarnett21413 жыл бұрын
You should make a Viking seax knife.
@michaelbragel343 жыл бұрын
No refractory cement???
@BumbleBauz3 жыл бұрын
The inside looks like a spaceship 😁
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Part of my secret hampster space program🤫
@BumbleBauz3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree ohhhh 🤫🤫🤫 did you say something? 🤭
@rockinrswoodshop3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done dude! Won’t take near as long to make another razor now!
@derskalde4973 Жыл бұрын
Piglet of Punishment, Sausage of Satan, Hephaestos' Hams... How long did you need just to come up with these? XD
@derskalde4973 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you used it, but this was a lost chance for something like a "Hellhog".
@THEMANTHEMYTH224Ай бұрын
Thx for the info! Definitely a good vid like all of your vids!
@theplasticundergroundprops10353 жыл бұрын
nice job! iv been wanting to do a small table top design for a few years, deff gunna pull some stuff from this, thank you!
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
I am super happy you found this useful! Stay safe!
@Ammoniummetavanadate3 жыл бұрын
Ron Reil is the guy to check out for burner designs. You can get a little more efficiency out of them with an ITC-200 coating on the fibre.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
@@Ammoniummetavanadate I'll check him out for sure!
@kylecheramie83713 жыл бұрын
How to forge a forge ; great job!
@Marcpowers3 жыл бұрын
Horde away cl3wer, do the builders dilema. "i need to hord this thing, beacuse i might need it", ten years and a superfilled workshop later, "see, i gott a use for it, thats way its smart to horde" Btw. Would be cool to see you forging a axe
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Oooh! An axe WOULD be cool! Great suggestion. Also, that is totally me! I am so happy and vindicated when the thing I greedily held on to for YEARS comes in handy🤣
@Ammoniummetavanadate3 жыл бұрын
Axes are super hard to make, I am working up to it too. You can do a simple design where you fold-over to make the eye, but a proper axe with a drifted eye is quite a challenge.
@wonderbubbles40923 жыл бұрын
So perfect for my workshop! I am so having fun making tools. Speaking of, any thoughts on making a mace? (Many clerics and shamans use non edged weapons)
@marienicassio33972 жыл бұрын
can you use a water heating tank for this build
@undoubtedcrow8010 Жыл бұрын
Dang, that's huge!
@halthompson48762 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@SkillTree2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fardareismaigrandma68253 жыл бұрын
How about a custom makers mark for a project?
@wilfredomique85982 жыл бұрын
nice, great!
@nightphall68102 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI in all the forges I have built the rigidizer is added after its stuffed in place. I should add that other than that this is an amazing build. I will make the same suggestion to you that I do all beginners, make some tongs first!
@jonathangranados46933 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to learn how to make/do stained glass work
@protapch3 жыл бұрын
Bro i need help.....can i make it with lpg gas my from india ....n i m blacksmith.... Plz tell
@reaznb Жыл бұрын
Thanks man great video
@bretlemieux24893 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you make mokogama a nickel an copper Damascus. And make a hilt an pommel for another weapon from it.
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
That sounds super pretty 😍
@bretlemieux24893 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree it looks very beautiful an has a depending on how you pattern weld it an amazing color difference
@tiny-grimes3 жыл бұрын
That was hot!
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
OH, SNAP! That dad joke was FIRE!
@gautamr.singhvie36533 жыл бұрын
Really great video
@theprince7946 Жыл бұрын
Ok but the refractory should be on the walls and the bottom? Advise me guys thanks
@dozen619Ай бұрын
Old video but if anyone wants to cut a propane tank fill it with sand first, even empty a tank still has propane in it and it will go boom.
@astrid39993 жыл бұрын
always an amazing vid Cl3ver
@poniel21233 жыл бұрын
new drinking game... take a shot every time Cl3ver says "Nipple" in his videos. ;) love you Cl3ver.
@dark967443 жыл бұрын
Make a blowpipe and darts next
@KarlRoyale3 жыл бұрын
you say it is a fire pig but where oh where is the lipstick? bit of a missed opportunity there... for my $.02 make a kitchen knife, great first project and it is useful
@VTRAddict6 ай бұрын
That top piece of pipe defeats the purpose of the reducing fitting. It's intended to work as a venturi which will increase the airflow and give you better heat. Putting that piece in chokes it down and eliminates that effect
@rotemcohen80833 жыл бұрын
I found it really funny the amount of times he said nipple
@undoubtedcrow8010 Жыл бұрын
You have a dirty mind.
@Greylegato2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... how about a dwarven hammer?
@m0o0oeh3 жыл бұрын
Check out Alec Steele. So many cool projects to start off. When he gets back to America you guys should do a collab.
@JasonCrosen3 жыл бұрын
Comment for algorithm and interaction
@synndreyll63042 жыл бұрын
Wondering why we havent seen this bad boy in action since the release of this video 🤔 come on #Skilltree, Cl3ver make something out of it already! 😆
@SkillTree2 жыл бұрын
I shall very soon. Winter hit and I have been a baby about go8ng out in the cold 🤣
@timothyneiswander31513 жыл бұрын
I don't think that tank was off a filtration system. I pretty sure it is an expansion tank because I recently replaced mine. Its purpose is to deal with thermal expansion of water as it heats up in the water heater.
@lakesheppard54663 жыл бұрын
Neat
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@therobotwolf3 жыл бұрын
Here before Belfried sent out the notif. What do i win?
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
My undying love and adoration!
@therobotwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillTree A fitting prize XD
@jopaul323 жыл бұрын
just wanted meat and potatoes... needed some prozac to keep focused here?!
@SkillTree3 жыл бұрын
Be sure to smash that thumbs down button if you didn't enjoy the content. Cheers
@arissinclair6419 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t u make a welder out of some microwaves. I’ve seen it done.
@craftingoutofscratch29803 жыл бұрын
Pls make thermal anvil from world of warcraft mists of pandaria XD
@Madimistred3 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🤩🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Arkie802 жыл бұрын
Satan's hog, no pig at all...
@Ammoniummetavanadate3 жыл бұрын
That is scary similar to the one I built a few years ago, although I did weld on a base and port for the burner, and I also have the bottom cast with refractory I "borrowed" from work along with the Unifrax blanket and the cylinder itself.... So that guy should get up to at least 1000C if it is anything like my build. Here is a link to it if anyone is curious, the video is off a cheap cellphone so it is hot garbage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnasfoeje9GDaNE I am building a new stand for it this week actually, I want my damn workmate back in service...
@fckickboxer2 жыл бұрын
So much easier to just buy a welder and weld
@R3AL90053 жыл бұрын
This guy is good in small small doses. Great work on the forge tho