DIY Generator Enclosure Shed v2 BIG 15kw Westinghouse Retrofit

[@jonathanfegelein9361]

We have used the kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!

[@cayrick]

Two comments from someone who has gone thro this exercise personally. Mine is a 5kw Honda. Heat is a big problem and having a high temp. shutoff safety switch is a good add on. I did this but my criteria is to limit temp. rise inside the compartment to 10-15 F. I had a non powered 17"sq intake and a 16S AC Infinity fan (16" shutter fan) on the exhaust side (17" sq outlet). That was my 3rd iteration providing 3,000 cfm air flow. This done according to the theory that fans are easier to replace than generators. My safety switch by the way is a 50 C or 122 F shutoff temp. Another consideration is that generator shed builders ignore the fact that generator failure is progressive and only in the final stage is it sudden. The things that will go bad first are the head and the generator windings. Most generators today use CGFI 110v plugs. If you connect your fan to one of these it can trip while you are not there. In my case this happened and I changed the GFI plugs for regular plugs because I am more concerned about reliability than safety since it is a stationary application.

[@busterhyman6633]

Nice start on the shed. I have a Generac 17500 or 26K peak. Just a note I have 3 fans about 3000 CFM. One fan shut off at 130 degrees. Heck it's 100 outside in Texas summers. I encourage you to run this for an hour or more to evaluate the temperature rise. I like the status light that's slick.

[@eastcoastlife2417]

You have Done a Excellent Job !! 👍 Grats !!

[@marcleeke1105]

Have very similar Westinghouse generator 12000df so mine is same basic unit. I used to have Generac GP15000E but genset failed at only 32hr. Generac says it was overloaded but the more research I have done Heat may have been factor? Recomend you look at separate ventilation system for genset. Make sure fan in genset gets fresh outside air. Nice work.

[@kevinparent3119]

Great box the only thing wouldn’t do is put it so close to building because if exhaust fumes and in case of fire

[@jamessamuel1611]

I’m curious as to what the internal temp is compared to ambient with your setup.

[@michaelhardy195]

Good idea 2 Eco flow delta pro 3 system and Eco flow delta pro 3 extra 4 battery : Eco flow delta smart panel 2 power whole house 24,000 KWH 🤓👍

[@ernestkanu1247]

I have a similar WEGEN 12000DF and did not read about the high temperature shut off in the manual. Can you tell me where you got that information because I was going to add a NO 40C thermal shut off? Thanks!

[@leodanryan966]

I have exactly the same generator shed, and I am using propane. I have two 100 lb tanks and six 20 lb cylinders.

[@mattyockey9195]

I want to get some 100 pound tanks but my 12000 durmax calls for oil changes every 2p hours so would be pointless or in reality can you go longer without changing oil

[@gordiehattrick]

@@mattyockey9195 You should get longer oil life running propane. Changed the oil on my Duromax 13000HX after 20 hours, the oil still looked new! One tip, get a new oil dipstick with a magnet at the end. Definitely helps collect the little bits of metal from wear.

[@1confusion1]

very nice DIY for your home

[@mikereitano1055]

Where did you read about the high temp shutoff thanks

[@bentwiss3862]

You mentioned it could be ran off a universal automatic transfer switch, have you seen any videos or products that would do that for a portable generator for 50amp (Detect outage, start generator, transfer)

[@vzndave]

This looks great!. just getting started on my project. I have the WGen9500DF generator.. My biggest concern is connecting a pipe to the exhaust. do you have any more detail on that? Thanks!

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

In my case the piece I cobbled together fit tightly over the exhaust outlet and is secured where it comes out of the shed. That way I can remove the generator if I have to. I just happened to have a piece of steel pipe laying around that used to be an antenna mast that worked nicely. Don't have any specific details otherwise.

[@vzndave]

@@JackofAllMasterofNone Thank you.

[@dflenn9423]

I'm curious about the wire feeding your switch from the 50 amp connector. It appears to be 12 or maybe even 10 gauge which would be way undersized.

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

Wrong. 8 gauge and breaker is 30amps.

[@ChaplainMike777]

Very nice! Curious how you manage gasoline storage? How often do you have to fill your tank?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

It just depends on how long the power is out

[@RichieCat4223]

What is the CFM rating of the exhaust fan ? Did you figure your inlet vents to it ?

[@stevepospichal]

Do you have a heat problem in the summer if the outside temperature is 90 to 95 degrees outside. If you were to do it again would you put in a larger fan

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

I did add a larger fan. Just to make me feel more comfortable. Not sure it was necessary but now it stays very cool no matter the outside temperature

[@musikmasters1]

Can you send email with links to the box, insulation, fan

[@tommyrosamilia831]

Do you have any issue with the co sensor shutting the generator off, or do the vents take care of this issue completely?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

No issues with this at all. Mine doesn't have a CO sensor though.

[@waynewl34]

HI, I am getting ready to make my enclosure using the same generator what did you use to attach the insulation to the plastic I bought some double reflective insulation from home depot but have not checked to see if it has it's own adhesive yet. Also have you had any cooling issues. Thanks great video

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

I just used the foil tape you can buy for HVAC. No cooling problems at all.

[@Honestandtruth007]

@@JackofAllMasterofNone Do you know What is the THD Total Harmonic Distortion at what 5-10 % at least ❓❓

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

@@Honestandtruth007 Westinghouse says less than 5% THD

[@Honestandtruth007]

​@@JackofAllMasterofNoneThanks for Response

[@fuquafuschnikens5256]

Can you be more specific on the pipe you used for the exhaust. Can you show connection and where you got the pipe?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

It was just some scrap I had laying around. Sorry can't be more help. It literally just slip fit over the exhaust outlet.

[@fuquafuschnikens5256]

@@JackofAllMasterofNone Tks, I not sure if it needs to be a tight seal over the exhaust or not? and what did you use to hold in place?

[@busterhyman6633]

How do you like the Westinghouse I was considering changing from my Generac due to the 12/15Kw having less than 5% THD. How can the remote be reliable? Don't you have to choke the generator for a Gas start up?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

I like it. I had a few minor issues though. The starter failed within the first week. Amazon made it right though and I installed a replacement starter and it's been fine since. The THD is spot on. I have a large UPS system that monitors the frequency and it is very happy with the output of the generator. The remote works perfectly. It uses a computer controlled electronic choke. They should have spent a few more dollars and just used fuel injection. How cool would that be? But the electronic choke works well. Only other issue was when it was -20' with the wind-chill the battery decided it wasn't gonna start the generator. I guess that's not really the generators fault. I used a jump pack and it fired right up, so a battery heater might be in the future.

[@DustinStackhouse]

Do you have any concerns or problems with exhaust getting in the door there next to the unit?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

No. It blows away from the door and the door is to a garage, not the house. Have a CO detector just in case, but have never had problems. The air from the exhaust fan is so strong that it dissipates all the exhaust

[@gordiehattrick]

Very nice setup! One question, are you running 10/3 wire on the 50 amp connection? You should be running 6 AGW Copper or 4 AGW Aluminum at a minimum.

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

That's 6/3 with ground romex

[@apb5866]

I have the Dual fuel version of this generator. Have you had any issues with heat after running it for an extended period of time?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

No. But I did install a larger fan as a precaution. Made me feel better about the 90 plus degree days.

[@vwspeedracer]

I imagine it's cheaper to burn propane right now and that's part of why the dual fuels are less available.

[@dontblameme6328]

Not really... Propane prices are sky high too and it's FAR less efficient.

[@MrJett111]

are you not worried about the generator overheating? how hot does it get when you run your generator and it's closed up?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

Big fan. No heat

[@taylorcampbell985]

How is the heat inside the shed? Have you ran it for extended period of time in summer?

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

With the high flow fan it keeps it running cool. It's very important to have a good flowing exhaust fan

[@taylorcampbell985]

@@JackofAllMasterofNonewas that a 10inch or 12inch fan you used?

[@taylorcampbell985]

Did you have any temp readings inside the shed ?

[@tobydobo4080]

wow! could I pay you to build one of these for me? lol Im getting the same generator.

[@taylorcampbell985]

What’s the hottest it gets inside that shed when running?

[@taylorcampbell985]

Do you have temp sensor inside of it?

[@Honestandtruth007]

CAN YOU really Sleep 😴 with that Noise Level while running it at night ❓❓❓❓❓ not sure at what db you have there ❓

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

It's nowhere near the bedrooms, so yes. It's no louder than any other "real" stand by generator.

[@Honestandtruth007]

​@@JackofAllMasterofNoneDid you Reduced the Noise Level around 60 decibel ❓❓

[@Maximum1A]

Link to the shed is not work.

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

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[@Captleemo]

Everything I have read about installing a generator says it should be about 10 feet away from the house.

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

What standby generator is 10 feet away from the house?

[@bobcob3362]

Most of them depending on local codes. Might want to look into that.

[@MrSkunks]

@@JackofAllMasterofNonethey run on propane or natural gas which produce significantly lower carbon monoxide.

[@BrianD-ds4dx]

NFPA 37 standards that most standby units are built to require an 18 inch clearance from the residence. However, all also require a 5 foot clearance from openings to livable space. Let’s face it.. I’m in the generator business and am horrified from a risk of fire perspective on every single one of these generator “sheds” that people put next to their largest single investment and asset, BUT…I’m not going to list my objections here. They are not based on people using portables instead of standby though…some folks can’t or won’t spend the money on a standby which I certainly understand. I’ve advised several folks on steps to make the portable more successful in their applications. All I will say is that your exhaust is way too close to door there. Im assuming that door leads to a garage or storage room so it probably will never become a major issue. With that said…please install a carbon monoxide detector there if you have not. It’s probably hard to find how many ppm will build up there, as I doubt Westinghouse has bench tested the unit in the particular fashion you are employing it so err on the side of caution please