DIY Real Home Theater Speakers for $500 - Cinema 6

[@Vercus100]

These aren't $500/pair speakers anymore. Just the B&C drivers, horns, and the four woofers are $460 alone, not counting wood, crossover components, cabinet fill, or input terminals. Probably more like $700-800/pair realistically.

[@brianraulerson5037]

I'll give you a thumbs up just for the Happy Gilmore reference.

[@Toid]

Haha! The Price is Right...Brian! 😉

[@justaskdad]

My friend, I love your work and the fact that you help others build their own for less otherwise unattainable. I have been in the construction remodeling business for 30 years, one word of "Advice" Please invest in a dust collection system. I would love to continue seeing your projects for many years to come. Keep up the great work!

[@phizzle24]

Toid to brace: DON'T YOU LIKE YOUR HOME!!!

[@Toid]

Lol, someone knows their Happy Gilmore! Nice! 😁

[@lionhrt9]

As you know I built 3 of your KL-650s and we freaking love the way they sound and look in our theater. So now what I'm thinking is building 2 of these for the front left and right and take 2 of the kl-650 back for the surrounds!!! Sounds like an awesome winter project, thanks again for what you do!!!

[@Toid]

You did an excellent job on those!

[@shaywarren]

I'm curious what you upgraded from. I'm definitely new to this but would like to upgrade all of my speakers

[@lionhrt9]

@@shaywarren I've got klipsch surrounds in livingroom and that's what I started with in theater room.

[@maafeustyle]

Love them! Thanks for the build video. I'll definitely be building these for my soundstage. Thank you again for the videos and all your knowledge! As this will be my first full speaker build, thanks for providing the confidence! Much appreciated.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

I think I need to build a set! Are you going to design matching surround speakers?

[@Toid]

I'm working on building the cinema 10 which use a 10-in woofer paired with this top end. They're based off of commercial rear speakers.

[@incredifunk]

】 Why aren't we hearing these? I get our phones will not show them justice. But it would be worth a shot to hook into something else

[@mikkelkirketerp4884]

So if one had to choose between these and your blue JBL clones, which would you choose? For my I'm going to build a cinema at around 3.75x6m, going to be 7.x.4. I think i can see an advantage of these speakers, and i Guess they'd be easier to have as surround channels as well, to keep that nice coherent sound. Then for atmos it could perhaps be the same horn and just one midwoofer, and just cross them at 120-150hz instead

[@areynol]

I'm looking forward to the cinema 10s that you've mentioned next! I want to buy plans asap and start building, but the crossover part is something I have no clue about. Is that portion easy to follow in your plans?

[@rykerhasyounow]

Great build. I always run some mechanical fixings in MDF builds as the glue holds, but only the first mm of material. I find stiffness and rigidity is improved substantially if I glue n screw.

[@incredifunk]

I'd personally use birch

[@chuckmaddison2924]

​@bricebowlin8834 There is a good reason for not using wood of any kind. MDF , chip board is a stable material and won't twist. Also, it is a dead material which is essential for control of resonance.

[@SqueamishPuppet]

I'd love to make these! I'd been looking at the monoprice in walls and the Klipsch. But the Klipschs are so expensive and sorta hard to find. These would be really cool!

[@carlosoruna7174]

Ahh. Early 80s lascalas. Cheap. 1800 a pair. In basic black best sounding speaker I ever heard. Driven with a nak 620 amp

[@wiredforstereo]

Plans link isn't active. Do the Cinema 10s replace these?

[@Toid]

They have

[@eddieblanquiz2542]

Hey duder! Thank you so much for this! I would love to build this but I keep getting a 404 error when trying to look up the plans? Any info would be great. Thanks.

[@delvinharrington9280]

Hey I'm new to the home theater community. I'm building one myself but I fell in love with your D. I. Y speakers are the cinema 6 build plan still available?

[@SharkRangler]

Do you feel like you could stretch these out to a long sound-bar style home center channel? It would work better for those of us who have narrower spaces between out entertainment center and TV? This and the 1.0 version you've made are some of my favorite of your vids.

[@Toid]

Thank you Anthony. I appreciate hearing that. You could do something like that. However, the crossover would need to be modified. But it definitely is doable.

[@pelone01]

I was thinking of the same thing. Having an shorter wider M-T-M version for the center channel would be very cool. If anybody does that, I'd be interested in hearing about what was changed.

[@FSXgta]

7:35 that bug got sprayed xD

[@Toid]

Haha! Yeah he did

[@aliframadhan1202]

The real home theater speaker is finished with only black non-reflective paint. But that's okay. Just personal choice

[@stephennielsen2134]

Wow I didn’t know Heinz Mustard could be use for glue.HaHa 😂Cheers 🍻🇨🇦😎Eh.

[@supergimp2000]

What happened to the plans for these? I'm looking around for a HT build for a dedicated custom HT with a commercial style LCR in a THX wall behind an AT screen. These look like they might be great in that application.

[@CreizaiOne]

Ya killed it man, love the orange. Absolutely going to build these the first chance I get

[@JukeboxAlley]

Love the orange, reminds me alot of some of the jbl models. A purple set with white drivers would be really sharp also.

[@BryceJohnson-le5hi]

I looked all over through your videos but am having trouble finding how to measure speakers for xsim. It would be really nice If you made a video on how to measure speakers to import into xsim. Via DATS and REW or whatever. I'm trying to build your eminence towers with the 15" Omega Pro woofers but don't have headroom to make them as tall as you designed them. Do you think If I ordered your crossover design for the towers would that work in a smaller enclosure. or is there going to be significant impedence changes because of the box design that would throw off the crossover you designed for that

[@OfficialNakatsuMegami]

I personally prefer the Eminence Tweeters as well. Crazy amounts of OEMs use Eminence speaker. Such as Yamaha PA speakers use Eminence exclusively.

[@fat_dubs]

It seems there is no info or plans anymore about this "cinema 6" in your website. Is there a way to buy the plans? Amazing built

[@shawnwade4062]

This was the design I was thinking of using for a center channel when you did your original build! Do you prefer this style for your left and right channel over the stacked woofers?

[@Toid]

I do. You can still put these on the side just like the originals. But I like the way these sound better.

[@somerandomguy8564]

Very similar to the Denovo audio 88 Specials. Good job with these.

[@DIV7777]

where are the plans for this speakers ?

[@TheNicomachean]

Firstly, thanks for making these plans available! I was stoked to discover one could build such high quality speakers. Secondly, would it be possible to build these with a shallow depth, and is so, how shallow could you go?

[@meams2176]

Editing on this video is very good! keep up the good work 👍

[@AmandaRoseStevens]

It seems there is no info or plans anymore about this "cinema 6" in your website. Is there a way to buy the plans? Amazing built

[@Edward135i]

Shit, now I'm wondering if I should flip my KL-650's on their sides!

[@DerekRNeumann]

I mean, experimentation is the only free part of hi-fi right?

[@dickydoesaudio3466]

I have the Kl 650's also, and I haven't been able to use them because they were 2 inches to wide to fit in the space I have for my left and right speakers. I don't know why I never thought of flipping them on their side but I will definitely be doing that in the near future.

[@danashay]

Woof. That. Was. Magnificent. Nice shop. Great video. Please carry on!!

[@naturalverities]

Those are gorgeous! But I've never been able to see the sense of pairing a horn oriented for broader horizontal coverage with twin midbasses oriented for broader vertical coverage. In my entirely possible ignorance it seems like a nod to a wrongheaded tradition. Sure looks cool, though!

[@tonythedonluciano]

Didn't even give the bug a chance to escape, he just painted him blue. 😆

[@joshuasterling2144]

Tron is that show off piece for audio and video...

[@jimdeitch321]

More of as request than a suggestion here. It would be just grand if I could purchase the panels already cut and routed and with just some hand finishing ready for assembly, Any chance? Or perhaps you might direct me somewhere such is available. Thanks

[@Toid]

I can cut whatever you need. Just let me know what it is you want. contact me via my business e-mail [e-mail]

[@SuperCaptainMOo]

Why was this removed from your website???

[@K-Effect]

At Parts Express have you checked out the new GRS 12SW-4HE 12" subwoofer? It's $39.90. I doubt you'll find another subwoofer that will beat it for the price

[@Toid]

Yeah it looks like a really great subwoofer. It does suffer from needing a large box

[@alainwelter]

Crossover?

[@Toid]

It's in the plans in the description

[@niharadawade4442]

Thank you Nick,your videos are always inspirational...!!

[@ThisIsBIGIyan]

Can you make a 4 way klipsch speaker

[@AntonioGarcia-xk6jd]

if you where to buy a speaker that can be identical on all channels minus the center channel & Sub's of course , for a 7.2.6 speaker surround setup. choosing (3) different ((( 1st, 2nd , 3rd place ))) pre-build's & (3) D.I.Y from Part Express what would you're recommendations be. can you include 3 chooses from both category's for the budget / value person in mind ...

[@mcagle61]

I wish you would come up with a similar design based with on the Ugly's. Use a horn mid and stop. Or add a uhf driver for top end. The 6 inch version of the woofers would be good, but the 8's would be killer.

[@Toid]

That's an interesting idea

[@Edinsism]

looks like your kids got to your left side lol

[@Toid]

Lol. That's exactly what happened.

[@CrazyWillification]

Awesome build. Tap tap taparoo

[@arena_rock_man9030]

What would be better for home theater, The Sound Stage 15 clones or the Cinema 6?

[@Toid]

The Sound Stage 15's are better overall. They are really good at music and sound great at movies. So as a whole, they are a better overall speaker.

[@SarahStaar]

Just wondered why the plans are no longer available for purchase

[@Toid]

@@SarahStaar I’m reworking this

[@ElCidPhysics90]

How would these work for surrounds and maybe even atmos, assuming I could get them mounted on the ceiling? Planning on building the Audience 212s for LCR.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Awesome speakers man! I really enjoyed the video.

[@rcdude86]

Hey toids. Have you thought about making a klipsch rc7? And make it a vertical as well? I think it would be similar but i like the vertical woofer horn woofer when then flow vertical. The rc7 is q 2.5 way cross over so not sure how that works.

[@tzt0i8]

I have build simular speakers to these but i surface mounted the horn. It has a large dip in the frequency response at 8-to 15 khz. I was wondering if flush mounting it could solve this problem. Do you know if this can help. The reported frequency response by the manufacturer is pretty linear. Its The Monacor MHD-152. Thanks.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

Orange is good enough color to shock men coming into a living room. I recently developed fetish to orange color. So I am OK with that. Haha~.

[@Toid]

Yep, this is my version of bug spray. But this bug spray is designed to be sprayed on the bug and not on you 😂

[@spritual_enlightenment]

@@Toid Yeah, I saw a bug was painted on the surface with blue laquer. But I didn't know orange paint was bug spray. 🤣

[@esgumelado3740]

Do you think it would be good if i use Jbl D220ti 80w Rms 109 Db driver replacing the ones you used?

[@cazschiller]

Hearing the click to stop recording while you're voice-over-ing drives me nuts. As a video editor, can I help you? 🙂🙂🙂

[@stephennielsen2134]

Can you make me a pair of Cornwall cabinets? If so how much? I can glue and sand myself. Cheers 🍻

[@blackwolfjr1909]

I love DIY stuff and I really must say I love the speakers I've never even heard of them before but I would really like to hear what they sound like you know what type of response are you getting from them you know I see the the grass I mean the grass is great and all but nothing beats hearing them then just reading the graph and what they dropped down to and what frequency responses that they respond to and what's good and what's not you know hearing them is always great cuz you're actually making me want to build a pair of a pair of them but I do have one question are you building the third one as a center Channel because I was wondering about what you were saying but if you turn them sideways that you would narrow your band with well you're listening I guess what I'm trying to say it sounds like what you're saying is if you turn the compression driver lens on the side they would narrow your hearing for the left and right side and if that's so that's been maybe the very thing that you need to do because you built another box or did you build two more boxes cuz if you build one for a center Channel then I would leave that one orientated when you get a wide band cuz it would respond as a center channel for vocals and your left and right would respond as in the movie form someone walking in the room I don't know I think I need to build a set of to test my theory but anyways I like the color orange cuz I'm a Chevy guy and I like the color blue also but one of the speakers do you have with your home theater system just out of curiosity

[@coreybeck7148]

why don't you have any playback on videos? I realize they will not sound the same but it would be nice to see something.

[@cliftonfriese18]

great video, tried to purchase the plans, but log in issues. didn't send confirmation to my email.

[@Orthodoxuk]

Hi, why can't we get access to the plans in the UK? Comes up 404 or too many requests.

[@erichayes9003]

Would these be good for LCR SPEAKERS

[@Toid]

Yes. That’s what they were originally designed for. Just keep in mind these will have a more narrow dispersion. If you like a wider fuller sound, then I would recommend the cinema 10.

[@robbiedh02]

Make some rear surrounds out of them?

[@Toid]

That would be nice

[@randallross2226]

Great video! This is probably my 5th time watching. Looking forward to building these 👍

[@criptofer187]

I dont have much room for speakers this size, but I like the design. Could you make a down sized version?

[@orlandowilliams5164]

Do you sell these speakers? I just wanna buy. Lol. I’m not handy but these look awesome.

[@jhartwells]

Why not put shallow channels for the brace to slide in for perfect alignment?

[@roberthartzell7104]

Happy Gilmore reference 🤔😂😂 you sleigh me.👍

[@donjaun540]

These speakers you build are so nice. Do you sell flat pack? Nice

[@monsta21cb]

i asked on the thread figured i would ask here can i use 8 inch instead of 6 inch would it still work with this crossover

[@icdjpr]

What do you think of this same arrangement and adding a 12" under the mids and make it a 3way?

[@cranixten2620]

What is the mounting depth of that compression driver? I would like to make these in a in wall design. Behind a screen

[@francisdelacruz6439]

Has that horn sound. Maybe use an exponential horn.

[@lo_fye]

What’s the RMS & peak wattage on those? Love the colors, too!

[@alpereira7112]

*** UPADTE *** I tried to log into the link below and says you have to buy the plans for 20.00 US , I agreed and paid VIA PayPal and never received any Plans ... When I try to email Admin I also get an error .. Anyone else having issues ?I am going to build these speakers , I am currently using RF7 for my fronts and rears however those RF7 rears take on a lot of room. I started searching for Klipsch THX and came across this cool video , So I figure these wall mounted might hit the spot as well especially for the price. I'll report back when they are complete .

[@Toid]

Send me an email at [e-mail] l I’ll get it sorted out

[@ajstruhar2048]

Is there something in a higher price range you would recommend? Just finding your channel and I'm hooked! I'm very capable of building my own speakers! Wish you guys gave more spec on the total inner volume and such but great video dude man

[@truthisinconsciousness4342]

Hi, great video! I made a comment on your other video about Klipsch speakers. I think everybody making their own Klipsch speakers should make a speaker that Klipsch continues to make. I wanted to make a pair of Klipsch Heresy 4 speakers. Instead of making them a ported design I wanted to make them with passive radiators. Then I will also order the genuine Klipsch tweeters, drivers, and crossovers straight from Klipsch. I always upgrade the speaker cables on the crossovers because I got 3 times more power output, clarity, definition, and better imaging. I too strategically place the polyfil for better air flow. My Klipsch Synergy F1 speakers sounded harsh with the tweeters and the mid/bass drivers would bottom out and pop with the stock wires on the crossovers. I could only turn it a hair above the 9 o’clock position as the mid/bass drivers would bottom out and pop. I soldered in 14awg Monster Cable XP with magnetic flux tube and I then could turn the volume up to the 2 o’clock position distortion free with far greater clarity, definition, and output. I also used the all in one Bi-wire Z series cables that blew away all of the other cables I tried. Those Monster power current filters work awesome as well. Anyone who thinks better cables and capacitors don’t make a difference in the sound are Egotistical delusional people in denial of reality as a whole. The current filter and cables made an incredible difference. I wouldn’t have been happy without making the necessary upgrades. Now my $550 pair of Klipsch Synergy F1 speakers sound better than all of the other speakers I had costing way more!

[@rewind9536]

Could have gone for a bigger midrange horn. But then you would need a tweeter horn as well.

[@dantheman20127667]

Looks like the kids got to your dust covers on the left side haha

[@carlosoruna7174]

Need the drivers. Cabinets only go so far

[@bionicbob1285]

I built the Klipsch 650s clones but they are not impressive. They're ok but nothing great. Good for garage speakers but I wouldn't consider them for home theater. I would like an honest opinion from those that built these. Its ok if they don't sound great, the can sound ok for $200 but don't over hype them. Then again sound is subjective.

[@systemofthehounds7658]

Nice bit of heavy dense cheap MDF

[@floydian68]

Would these work for The entire surround sound system? Front, Left, Right, Surrounds? Do they require a subwoofer?

[@Toid]

You could utilize these for all five speakers. There's definitely people that have done that. I've used them as fronts and rears and they do a great job. You will want a subwoofer with these. They're not really designed to go below 80 HZ.

[@erikrabinowitz1551]

Which woofers were used? I missed that

[@ttonAb2]

Do you have an alternative waveguide you could recommend, the one in this build is discontinued? Thanks!

[@KyleMahaney]

This. Still in stock in a few places but alternatives would be appreciated.

[@ntacoustics500]

Do a version of the kenwood mv-9D, for movies I love the 5-D but the presence of either the 7 or 9-D are pretty insane

[@everydayguy3737]

Plans for these vanished also wtf

[@robbiedh02]

I want some

[@Toid]

Comr build somr 😁

[@wojjy7096]

Hello, some of the links are broken!

[@jmax6614]

Would you like to sell your old speakers?

[@Huntmx24]

what is better these or the jtr diy you did?

[@BicycleJoeTomasello]

I bet your router cost almost $500

[@ugurozturk2692]

hey brother, all is good but how can ı find speaker box plan?

[@Toid]

The plans are in the description of the video

[@TexasCorgiGun]

Are they good for music ?

[@ronnyshoots]

have you covered the making of the crossover? In other words what are the parts and how are they wired

[@Toid]

It's all covered in the plans

[@loveitmuch]

I ordered the Cinema 6 plans and a few pages are missing for parts. The 3.5 and 1.0 Inductor pages are not there. Does anybody have any suggestions?

[@Toid]

Email me at [e-mail] and I'll get you the correct links sent over

[@loveitmuch]

@@Toid thanks a bunch

[@thiemobartsch]

This is a great build, thanks for sharing your knowledge! I've tried to download the build plans for these, but PayPal was rejected by your site. Is there a known issue with PayPal from Germany?

[@Toid]

Not that I'm aware of. But it's not working, you could always try Etsy. www.etsy.com/listing/1076258431/cinema-6-home-theater-speaker-plans

[@thiemobartsch]

@@Toid thanks! The problem was the currency which was switched to € automatically. After switching Back to USD it worked

[@StormHornet56]

NOOO YOU SPRAYED THE BUG

[@tdc_mfg3405]

Yes! The video I have been waiting for! Can’t wait to make these! Quick question. You said laying them on their side would be good for a small narrow room. The room I’m working with is 18x10x9 high. The screen will be 2 feet off the front wall so I can do a AT 120”screen. In this room do you think the cinema 6 would be best laid on its side Or vertical?

[@Toid]

It's really hard to say. I actually have a really narrow room and I decided to run them horizontally instead of on their side. It's more of a personal preference than it is a rule of thumb. Running it on its side will give you better left and right separation. This makes it easier to differentiate where the sound is coming from. And letting them horizontally gives you more of an even coverage.

[@nvrfollowb5]

Is the crossover information listed somehwere?

[@Toid]

It's with the build plans. the link is in the description.

[@donjaun540]

I love these dyi speakers. I wish you sold a flat pack kinda like GsG. This way all a person has to do is put it together and finish.

[@Toid]

I do sell flat packs for most of my speakers. You just need to contact me via email.

[@donjaun540]

@@Toid Awesome!!

[@fraula1]

Nice speaker 👍 do they need a subwoofer for listening music ?

[@Toid]

Yes

[@fraula1]

@@Toid thank you :)