Diy Tesla Powerwall ep66 New Exciting Stuff Batrium Bms!!!

[@salvatoremilitello5438]

U have the best endings to ur videos u always make me lol literally

[@AveRage_Joe]

+Salvatore Militello Lol Thank You🤣🖒

[@solofrnndz1402]

Lucky you

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You!!!👍

[@toochi84]

Great job! Can't wait for the install video. I'm sure the 🐈🐈 will be happy.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Bud!!! I havent seen any install vids yet so that should be a good one to do!!! I cant believe a cat wasnt down there trying to tear into the box!!! 🤔😉👍

[@toochi84]

AveRage Joe Or at least hide in it

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes and play with all the bags, Cats Love Bags!!!

[@phizicks]

lols to the ending, well, to the whole thing.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Oh you know me, I cant ramble a bunch of nonsense in there. I actually had a lot more but it was getting to long lol😆👍

[@davidbland5885]

Congratulations on your new toy

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You!!!😃

[@Moglichkeitz]

Much excite! Definitely do a series, I'm looking forward to all the nitty gritty details on this system.

[@AveRage_Joe]

You betcha Im gonna do those😄👍

[@Moglichkeitz]

hells yes!

[@bcmasur]

11:09 my precious

[@AveRage_Joe]

+bcmasur I actually said that then cut it out cause I couldnt get it to sound lile the movie lol😉🖒

[@cvicracer]

Freakin awesome can’t wait to see it running on your system!!!!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Meeeeeee To😀😆👍

[@tthorner]

Sweet!!

[@AveRage_Joe]

😃👍

[@garrys3273]

Looking forward to this install. Been waiting a week now for mine to arrive. Please don't edit too much out.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah, Ill try to keep in all without to much editing. Ill speed up through the repeated parts👍

[@garrys3273]

TIC-TOC-TIC-TOC???

[@AveRage_Joe]

Working on it right Meow!!!

[@garrys3273]

I got my Batrium yesterday and I noticed you have more in your kit than I do. The premain shunt cable the that little RX - TX board. Did they give you extra?

[@AveRage_Joe]

+Garry S I ordered them but Im finding out I probly wont use them. I might use the shunt cable if it will reach the location but thinking it probly wont.

[@paulkennett]

I'm jealous!

[@AveRage_Joe]

I was jealous but MEOW im NOT!!😆👍

[@charlestatakis9363]

Wow, very cool, it will be fun to see the install and results. I guess it's important to note that the cost of the battrium kits is between $350 to $650 bucks. It may seem like a lot of money but when you consider the safety factor and the relief that you don't have to check the system daily to determine if it's stable or worse yet, blown dozens of fuses it's a bargain.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I completely agree! Lots of factors are setup in the system. I am very satisfied with the price and peace to the mind while not there to watch it. Seen others come home to a mess and I dont want that!!!👍👍👍

[@rohanwilschefski2549]

Awesome as always Joe. Mine will be on order this week. Can't wait!!!!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Awesome!!! I cant wait to get it installed. Wonder if they have more than one Postal Kangaroo!!!😜👍

[@kirkb4989]

Hey, I saw your address and I will be right over!! ;-)

[@AveRage_Joe]

+kirkb4989 Awesome! You can help me install it😉🖒

[@kirkb4989]

I got the duct tape, bailing wire and beer all ready to go! Yee-ha! Hold my beer and watch this! Seriously now, I wish that Batrium stuff was a a bit more affordable - it looks like it has awesome capability. I am looking forward to your experience with it and watching videos from someone who does not have a funny accent or calls an elevator a "lift"...

[@AveRage_Joe]

Sweet!!! Ill leave the garage door open so just come on in when you get here😜 It is a little pricey but what you get is AMAZEBALLS😆 Who calls an elevator a lift anyways😉👍

[@johnstouchpad6437]

p3 p4460 will hold the usage info

[@AveRage_Joe]

+johns touchpad Cool thanks🖒

[@offgriddreaming5403]

Nice bro. That's a big improvement right thur

[@AveRage_Joe]

YesssSirrrrr huge mungus improvement😃👍

[@tazdvil3376]

AVERAGE JOE America's answer to Mr Bean. Lmao

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOLZ😀

[@tonyb.4824]

Crap-ton of Sa-weet! Tx and Rx are usually called tip and ring. Think about putting your "dinkle holder" in a small ventilated J-box. Have fun and don't let the smoke out!

[@AveRage_Joe]

You Betcha! AAhhhh thanks for the lingo lol I have know Idea on that kind of stuff. Im a knuckle dragger mechanic lol. Yeah a plexi glass box would look nice! Im gonna give it my best to not let any smoke out 😀👍

[@mobilesigngeek1693]

You should refer to that as taking a dinkle if you're go to the bathroom kind of like Todd and Tyler does with that old principal referring to a diekman

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL Good Ol Todd and Tyler! I use to listen to them. They use to go out to Hooters and do like hour shows like 20yrs ago. Havent listen to them much since then.

[@bcmasur]

Rx is Receive and Tx is Transceive (input/output) (receive/transmit)

[@AveRage_Joe]

AAhhh Good to know👍

[@bostjantrancar9605]

Excellent finally you got the Batrium.....👍 Pete have the advanced version?... 👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yess Sirrrrrr!!!!!!! Yeah Pete's got a freakin power plant down there.😄👍

[@Guust_Flater]

Bad Motherf*cking System, you have there Joe!! 👍 👍 👍 😁

[@AveRage_Joe]

YessssSirrrr!!! Thank You!!!😆👍

[@MrStemkilla]

love that you are having more fun with the videos. keep doing stuff like this! ive seen those BMS systems before. they look awesome. sometimes a little slow to balance but id like to see a system that is a little faster for introducing a new cell besides adding a munch more of these in parallel. maybe a hobby charger or a bench power supply. ive had a few really cheap ones 30V 10A they are noisy both physically and electronically but they are cheap and the electronic noise they make is still under anything that ive seen you do. linear supplies do better but typically max out at 5A for the same price range $20-40 what do you do as a profession? I dont think you ever said?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks, Yeah definitely having fun lol. They say it can balance up to 2amps but its mostly at 2amps. I dont think Ill need much more then an amp since I did a fairly good job at making the packs equal in capacity. Now Pete probly needs to add some in parallel lol. I work in aircraft maintenance. I think Ive only said that in the live streams tho. 👍

[@MrStemkilla]

cool career path! I have a friend that does that in the military and loves it! ever think about doing short videos of something along those lines? from how stuff operates that every day people may not understand or might be curious about or how some aviation repairs must be done that might be interesting. haha and like that you know exactly where i saw that. yeah not particularly a man of that method. it may work but it seems very troublesome and over complicated for just lowering a cells voltage faster. the lengths he went through i would have just attached a small motor or resistor and watched the cell voltage rather than spend an hr or two using those balancesers

[@AveRage_Joe]

It sounds a lot cooler than it is lol. I would do shorter vids but I work on a Military Base and cant have any cameras turned on where I work 😉😉😉. I could possibly add tips and stuff in videos about certain things but or an easier way to do it kinda thing but since Iven been around it so long and others that doit as well I would think to myself"everybody knows that" if that makes sense. Only thing off the top of my head would be safety wiring nuts and bolts👍 LOL yeah well.... Even he knows bahaahaha. I heard Jaron (the bms guy) say if the bms is working then you didnt balance your packs right. I agree, obviously since were all using recycled laptop cells its pretty much impossible to make them perfect and I think thats what Jaron was basically saying. Balance them as best as you can so the bms doesnt have to work to hard. All in the name of DIY 😃👍

[@MrStemkilla]

petersirpol is a youtuber making a DIY ultralight and has been having questions on safety aviation stuff lately. it would make an interesting video if you can do some sort of collaboration live stream or a video format that is similar. people tossing in their 2 cents on what might be the best way to do what he is building. so far the only professional advice he has been using is copying designs of other plains and commenters who work in that field. anyways I think it would be a great way to add some new cool technical content to your page as well as help out another grate youtuber

[@AveRage_Joe]

Ill have to look up his channel and see what hes up to!

[@bcmasur]

awww stralia

[@AveRage_Joe]

Over 9000miles Im told🤔

[@bcmasur]

LOL when you get a package from China from "Jack" or "Jill" LOL

[@AveRage_Joe]

😜

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

it should be impossible to check every cell, so I think you check small portion of the pack, I'm right

[@AveRage_Joe]

I checked every cell😀 I pulled each pack and looked at every single one👍

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

so when you decide to use your batrium BMS you should pack some cells and consider this pack like a cell, if this it true how many cell you put together like a cell

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah each pack has 100 cells so it becomes a "cell" and you attach one longmon per pack or "cell" I have 14 packs and that will be 14 longmons.

[@iiinsaiii]

Keep them coming Joe great video and the end of the video, lol you have to much time lol

[@lloydprunier4415]

I think he has been influenced by the cats!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Bud!!! Shoot never enough time!!!😜👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

For Reals, I have😜👍

[@GarryL277]

what is the expansion board for

[@AveRage_Joe]

You can control other things like heating, cooling, turn on or off shuts and many more options!👍

[@Dingbat217]

Cool, I look forward to the install video! :-)

[@AveRage_Joe]

Dont think Ive seen any👍

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

I have a difference between the highest pack and the lowest of around 150mA, should I be worried.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Nope, I wouldnt be worried at all!👍

[@bcmasur]

I WANT MY LITER of cola RIGHT MEOW! (sniff)

[@AveRage_Joe]

+bcmasur Lolz

[@derekvermeersch6349]

Nice one!! The price on the link kinda seems pricey. Lol 700-800$ cad. soo ld wanna know if there's a similar Chinese Knock off for a fraction of the price??? Dunno but another great one!!!! Thanks for all the info at a push of a button. Cheers

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks! Yeah Im not sure of another china version as of yet. Anytime and more to come👍

[@pufferfish0101]

Im the one that said Kangaroos XD

[@AveRage_Joe]

Awesome thanks for that LOL. I wasnted to add a Kangaroo ever since you said that 😆😜👍

[@apprenticeofeverything]

OWHWOW!! I think I'm still like 10 months away to that step! :D You said it take a long time but now exactly how long?! I ordered stuff from Australia to Portugal and it did take around 10 business days, which I think is cool but It was airmail... IDK if some things may come by land or ocean.

[@AveRage_Joe]

It took exactly 2 weeks from the day I ordered it. I know I know thats not very long but it seemed like forever lol. I was just excited to get it I think!!!😀😀😀

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

so you have a 51.8V nominal battery bank instead of 48.1V nominal bank why

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes I do, I could go down to a 13s pack but the higher the voltage the easier it is for a system to convert over to 120vac. I charge the pack up to 56ish volts on a regular day and the low end is around 44.8v.

[@battery_solar_ev]

ive put out alot of money the poor mans way in my days with solar but i seen the prices on this Batrium kit and seen what it is and i was like oh hell no price gouge from hell to many other stable cheaper ways to manage battery cell voltage just no interface with computer.

[@AveRage_Joe]

If I was able to be home and around the system more I wouldnt worry about it to much but I cant be yet. Sooo this will put the mind at ease!!!👍

[@battery_solar_ev]

yeah i get it ya gotta do what ya gotta do

[@AveRage_Joe]

True That!!!

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

your 100 18650 modules how long it will take to balance for a difference around 100mV

[@AveRage_Joe]

I usually dont worry about 100mv. Ill let it go untill about 300mv

[@Energizer34]

LMAO!!! Best video Yet!

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL Thanks!!!😆👍

[@bcmasur]

a "WHAT?" meter? WATT???

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL I always forget what that damn thing is called

[@tyharding3329]

Hurry up and get the next Vid up. Mine arrived yesterday too. I wish I had ordered the pre made shunt wire. Watch out on the com two pin. One just pulled out of the tiny connectors on mine. I feel your excitement. Lots to read and catch up on some of Pete’s and DIY tech and repairs. Have you ever seen a kangaroo “ Dinkle”?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Ahhh Crap That Kangaroo is making its rounds lol. Can you fix the pin? Yeah super excited and lots more to read up on. Im waiting on the sleeve stuff but it should be here in the next few days. Kangaroo Dinkle, shoot I just learned they can swim 😜

[@OntarioMiner]

How does the batrium system compare to the Canadian made Electrodacus SBMS system? I've got the SBMS100 and I believe it only supports upto 24v systems

[@AveRage_Joe]

To be honest I havent looked into his system. All I knew is I wanted this system and it does 12v-48v. How is your working out? Interested to hear about it! You should do a video on it! If your happy with it, thats all that matters! 😀👍

[@jz4958]

This Batrium stuff is so expensive. Is there any alternative?

[@AveRage_Joe]

The batrium is the best for sure!!!! but there is a diy bms floating around now. Adam Welch did a video about it. Its not his design but has links in his description box kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5TLd2uZaZqch9k

[@ipodfernando]

The box should be small so it fit in the kangaroo pocket

[@AveRage_Joe]

Im bet that was the reason🤔👍😆

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

there's a reason for this BMS, all fuses in you power ball they are not enogh

[@AveRage_Joe]

The BMS is for keeping all the packs balanced when charging back up so one or more packs dont go over voltage. For example if the packs were not put together with equal capacity's, the lower capacity pack would charge faster then the others and possibly over volt. So the BMS takes care of all that for you 👍 The fuses are for safety and shorts ect...

[@shonalex]

What is the expansion board for? I'm about to purchase the watchmon, shunt, and 14 longmons. Do I need the expansion board?

[@AveRage_Joe]

The expansion board allows for other features/add ons. If you get the starter kit it comes with!

[@duncyy7471]

Question. how did you balance your packs before you got the Batrium setup? I want to get started with the powerwall/solar stuf (small scale, i currently collected ~300 cells) but i don't have money for a Batrium setup.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I only cycled them a few times before I got the batrium so they didnt get to far off in voltage. I wouldnt recommend doing that for long term since the more cycles you do the more they are likely to get out of balance. If you are building smaller packs you could get by with those cheaper Chinese bms boards!

[@duncyy7471]

​@@AveRage_Joe I have one chinees BMS but it's basically garbage. i cycled it with some less good sells(i didn't want to damage good sells) and ended up with sells at 3.9v and sells at 4.35v. The sells heating up worked better at lowering the voltage than the BMS lol. Could be i just got a bad BMS. Maybe i can build my own BMS with arduino's and stuff. mmmm....

[@Lauren-ci6uv]

OMG! You are hilarious! I love the Kangaroo Dance!!!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You My Love!!!😆👍

[@imchris1978]

Theses are great bits of kit unfortunately they are to expensive for me

[@AveRage_Joe]

I sold my kidney to get it 😉 JK I sold some of my old 12v solar stuff and got a few donations to help make it a reality!!!😃😃😃👍

[@Eratas1]

Yeah ~700€ to Europe, No thanks i'l just stick with modified 20$ Chinese bms

[@imchris1978]

which bms are you using?

[@bcmasur]

2:47 so that shit's overencapsulated so it's horrible at heat dissipation. Looks like the inside of an old Compaq desktop PC from the early 1990s when everything was glued together.... the most disgusting inside of a PC ever

[@AveRage_Joe]

lol

[@BajanAlan]

Kangaroos can climb trees

[@AveRage_Joe]

ARE YOU CERIAL??????😵😲

[@BajanAlan]

Would I lie to u Joe?

[@AveRage_Joe]

+Alan Marshall Ill have to see if there are any videos of that 😀

[@BajanAlan]

They ae called tree Kangaroos

[@understandingtravis2136]

lol

[@AveRage_Joe]

😜👍

[@jfraser3]

did they drop some Kanga poo on ya lawn ;)

[@Woodyjims-shack]

Go Joe ! Be great to see someone install this system from the start. Haven't seen that done step by step yet just a bit of detail and then tada!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Probly, Ill have to check the security cams 😉

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah I cant say that I have seen those videos either from start to finish. Agreed just a little tid bits here and there.

[@bcmasur]

That's too much shit man... I can't wait to catch up to you with 1400x18650 and show you how *I* do it.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I cant wait either. When is that gonna be?😬

[@1981dasimpson]

hole new meaning to stop playing with you dinkle pmsl

[@AveRage_Joe]

🤫🤣💥🤘

[@iuliuscezar3284]

Oh no, I had enough of this Batrium expensive stuff, do you guys see that tiny "starter" box(just to get you started haha!) cost more then a 5KW hybrid inverter with 60A built in MPPT charger? this is insane... I really hope Joe you wont spam every new footage with this Batrium stuff, coz on Pete is all about Batrium now only commercial advertise.

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL I really wanted a good BMS cause Im not home most of the daytime when it charges back up. Didnt want to chance it. Which hybrid Inverter are you talking about, got a link? No I dont plan on making a crap ton of videos but plan to make the install videos and such. I think my ch is a little different then Petes 😉👍

[@iuliuscezar3284]

I hope you got very, very BIG discount on it b/c it really does not worth more then 30% of the price, rest is marketing till 50% and profit till 100%... About inverter here is the 5KVA version www.aliexpress.com/item/5KVA-4KW-MPPT-HYBRID-SOLAR-INVERTER/32523905612.html? I got my 3KVA/48V for 400$ shipped, is not as much featured as Voltronik variants(PIP and clones) it has a spartan menu but since I like to DIY is perfect for me(already replaced some components on it) and it does the job is supposed to. Now about BMS for those looking for DIY variants can look here: hackaday.io/project/12296-a-110-kwh-powerbucket/

[@bcmasur]

kangaroos can also kick your head in, be careful

[@AveRage_Joe]

Id hate to be that guy!

[@DiyintheGhetto]

Will you please stop playing with your dinkle 🤔

[@AveRage_Joe]

Dinkle!!!

[@DiyintheGhetto]

AveRage Joe that too lol

[@bcmasur]

BMS is overrrated, for people that don't have enough batteries per day/week

[@AveRage_Joe]

Tru!

[@JoseGarcia-px9xj]

correct me if I'm wrong. Balance your cell mean the one with the highest volt is drain to the level of the other cells. In your case 100 parallel cells(one cell) series with the other hundreds mean you have to drain around 100 amp that mean a big monster resistor to do that I don't think Batrium BMS has this capacity

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah balance the highest cell(100p pack) with the rest or lowest cell(100p pack). You could use a monster resistor yes but when you build your packs out, you make them as equal as possible in capacity and it wont take a huge resistor. The batrium bms uses a 1amp resistance load while charging to balance them out and if you packs are pretty close in capacity the batriun wont have to work as hard. Does that make sense?

[@CerebralDad]

stop holding your dinkle

[@AveRage_Joe]

+rcpilotp51 I cant lol 😉

[@timh2870]

overpriced space heater

[@AveRage_Joe]

Annnnd peace of mind while Im not around😀👍

[@NorwayRoy]

oh no! so you too are going down that expensive batrium-longmon-watchmon route... this is where you loose me man... sry. Don`t get me wrong. I`m happy for you getting to play with this fancy expencive stuff but.. it`s not as "average" anymore eh?. If I want to see batrium advertisement i just go watch more HBPowerwall videos.. thought you where different.. bye...

[@AveRage_Joe]

For a BMS Yes for sure. I cant be around to monitor the packs like Id like to so the Batrium is the best Babysitter around and they keep updating the system as the community grows! Well I thank you for watching and following along with the project!👍