Keep Your Family Warm During An Emergency Power Outage With This $20 Fix

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The DIY HVAC Guy

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@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
Just a couple of code pointers. That outlet needs to be 15, not 20 amp on a 15 amp circuit. That also needs to be a dedicated (single) outlet or you will need a GFCI. (concrete floor = damp location) That pigtail connections needs to be OUTSIDE the cabinet so you don't void the UL listing of the appliance. (temp rating of internal wire) Last but not least, the NEC will call for a service switch at the unit even though a cord / plug qualifies as a disconnect. This will be under the headings of permanently installed appliances. Probably best to swap out that 2x4 electrical box for a 4x4 and do it all in one place. Store the excess pigtail behind the BX cable in a loop.
@montanadan2524
@montanadan2524 20 күн бұрын
You are 100% correct.
@billy-go9kx
@billy-go9kx 19 күн бұрын
Yes, HVAC techs are not electricians.
@rupe53
@rupe53 18 күн бұрын
@@billy-go9kx which is why most HVAC guys don't have a full grip on the NEC, despite their license covering all the wiring near a unit. (but not into the breaker panel)
@leeroth5604
@leeroth5604 18 күн бұрын
You could use something like a Leviton T5225-T Combination switch & 5-15 receptacle, which would fit in a single box.
@rupe53
@rupe53 17 күн бұрын
@@leeroth5604 Yes, you could but for a DIY that work box is getting a little crowded with the extra wires and restraints. It has no room for side entry with that device in place and the screws will be hitting when trying to secure that device. 4x4 box with a mud ring is the way to go.
@hwoodist
@hwoodist 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for informing viewers about the Bonding Plug. I plan to do this for both my daughter's and my furnace.
@RandyOnTheRadio
@RandyOnTheRadio 23 күн бұрын
I just did this to my furnace, which one of your past videos, gave me the idea. I bought an Anker back up supply for the job from Amazon. I wired mine a little different. I used a combo switch and outlet where the switch was. I made it so the switch controls the combo outlet, all in the same electrical box. Then, I ran my pigtail wire to the furnace. What I'm doing differently is, leaving the furnace plugged into the backup, all the time, and the back up is always plugged into the switched outlet. Been using this for weeks. For me, if the power goes out, and I'm away for some hours, it's all done automatically. I ran the furnace, solely on the backup after I did the install. It ran for 6 hours, perfectly, and I still had 75% of my battery left. The Anker model also has an app for my phone, so I can always check and see what's happening at home. Worked perfectly. Really happy I did this. Did not know about the bonding plug issue, but fortunately, mine works fine without it.
@jmhescher
@jmhescher 23 күн бұрын
Which Anker power station did you buy?
@RandyOnTheRadio
@RandyOnTheRadio 23 күн бұрын
@@jmhescher I bought the Anker Solix C1000 (X). It works fantastic. I bought it from Amazon when they had their Prime Days thing going on. It was a little over 500 bucks, and when the power goes out, it will be worth every penny.
@walterbowen2430
@walterbowen2430 21 күн бұрын
Same question as jmhescher
@RandyOnTheRadio
@RandyOnTheRadio 21 күн бұрын
@@jmhescher Anker Solix C1000 (X)
@RandyOnTheRadio
@RandyOnTheRadio 21 күн бұрын
@@walterbowen2430 Anker Solix C1000 (X)
@BigHarryBalzac
@BigHarryBalzac 15 күн бұрын
I watched the video to see what you were doing. When you first started talking about installing an outlet where the switch was, I thought you were going to run a Suicide Cord to it from a generator. I'm glad to see I was wrong.
@treborterb
@treborterb 9 күн бұрын
I was planning on using a gas powered generator to power the furnace in the event of a power outage...is this not ok? Can you explain what you mean by a suicide cord and why this should be avoided. Can I even run this furnace using a gas powered generator?
@BigHarryBalzac
@BigHarryBalzac 8 күн бұрын
@@treborterb A suicide cord has a male plug on both ends so you can plug it into an outlet on the generator and an outlet in the house to power everything. It's called a suicide cord because as soon as you plug it into the generator, it has full power running to the exposed prongs on the other end of the plug.
@Pablo453
@Pablo453 2 күн бұрын
@@treborterb Yes you can run it on gas. Be sure to get the proper gauge cord to allow for the distance you need,
@Pablo453
@Pablo453 2 күн бұрын
If you do use a suicide cord, ALWAYS connect the load end BEFORE the power end. I used them on the job for 18 years and never had a problem, but it must be used correctly.
@BigHarryBalzac
@BigHarryBalzac 2 күн бұрын
@@Pablo453 I was thinking the same thing about connecting the load end before the power end, but didn't say anything. I didn't want to encourage anyone to use one. When companies need to put warning labels on products like do not use a hair dry in the shower, those people shouldn't use a suicide cord at all.
@GregLanz
@GregLanz 8 сағат бұрын
So brilliant. I've ordered a power bank and should have the rest of the materials to wire everything up. So simple and hopefully not necessary but better to be prepared in case.
@kennethwood2089
@kennethwood2089 23 күн бұрын
SUPER vid! Especially that "bonding plug" tip with the power station use. I had been using a gas powered "bonded neutral" genny to run my nat gas fired furnace via an EZ Generator Transfer Switch; all was well, since the circuitry was "bonded" to the main electrical panel. BUT--when I bought an ECOFLOW poer unit/geneator--furnace would not kick on. I called "Kevin" at EX Generator Switch who referred me to their KZbin about this--just switched out two wires on their green EZ Generator Transfer Switch and it worked just fine! This what Dave, the DIY HVAC man here is showing us here--your portable power unit, be it ECOFLOW, Jackery, Bluetti, Flashfish...whatever--needs to have the neutral circuitry "matched" to run your furnace--be it a floating or bonded neutral. If you're unsure or don't want to handle the transfer switch route, just see what Dave does here! MAGNIFICENT! Thank you, Dave! Saved a bundle for a lot of folks! Stay warm and stay safe, Folks! Here in an Ohio Winter it's been minus -20*F--nothing to fool with. Make sure you give your job here a "trial run" BEFORE Old Man Winter arives. Cheers! Here's the YT on the transfer switch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYfFhop5eNljepY
@MaMa-qh4dy
@MaMa-qh4dy 23 күн бұрын
Question: That is simply a standard plug. How does this connect the neutral to the ground?
@obewise
@obewise 4 күн бұрын
This is pretty much the first thing I did after my contractor installed my gas furnace back in 2002. In between the wall receptacle and furnace, I also have a double-conversion UPS battery backup to condition the power to the electronics. Last thing I need is for a power surge to take out my high-tech furnace board or VFD motor. 22 years constant running and not a problem the whole time.
@brentjohnson6654
@brentjohnson6654 22 күн бұрын
Another great video. Here in Texas countryside we don’t have gas so our furnace is all electric meaning 240VAC. So I would power that with a whole house backup or maybe a portable generator like the Anker Solix 3800 which provides 240VAC split phase. In reality I will likely have a critical needs panel until I can cover the whole house with battery backup but that is another story. It is nice to have options. Thanks again for your videos. I always learn something. All the best from north Texas!
@Pk3_Garage
@Pk3_Garage 23 күн бұрын
Truthfully with all the different power sources available in different price ranges, every home should have an Interlock or Manual Transfer Switch installed. But what you're trying to do, just install an Interlock on your main control panel. It's much safer, legal and doesn't require any modifications to your furnace.
@MN_Home_Fry
@MN_Home_Fry 23 күн бұрын
I personally prefer the version you did with the switched outlet. With this one you can just unplug it but like having the switch.
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
most of the repair guys will prefer a switch as well.
@jeremywasinger3195
@jeremywasinger3195 23 күн бұрын
Did this modification during the Texas Freeze of 2023, I found a previous video of yours. It was awesome to have some normal comfort during that outage. quick and easy, when grid power came back, unplugged from generator and plugged back into grid. I used a switched outlet so that I can still switch on and off if needed.
@donaldhoudek2889
@donaldhoudek2889 23 күн бұрын
The nice thing about these Portable power stations (I have the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max) you can plug the Portable Power station into 120VAC source and leave the the furnace plugged into the Power station 24/7 as most of them incorporate a "Pass-through" feature where whatever is plugged into the Power station will be powered by the grid power while it is also keeping the Power stations battery charged. This way you do not have to get up in the middle of the night to plug the furnace into the power station as it automatically switches to battery when needed. I wish they had a feature for my RV's LP, which ALWAYS empties a tank between midnight and 5 AM and it is cold outside. LOL
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 23 күн бұрын
Awesome! I’ll have to do a video on this! Thanks so much for the idea.
@JohnBlackman-f4q
@JohnBlackman-f4q 17 күн бұрын
Great comment. I have an Ecoflow Delta 2 Max power station but was not aware of the pass through capability.
@5.56Media
@5.56Media 19 күн бұрын
I have a few Ecoflows, and after watching this video I picked up a couple of bonding plugs. Tested and works! Thanks!
@喬老爷
@喬老爷 9 күн бұрын
which molde ecoflows? I have a ecoflow delta 2 max but olny the fan on, the gas heat can't star
@geod3589
@geod3589 5 күн бұрын
@@喬老爷 did you use a bonding plug?
@kurtjensen7264
@kurtjensen7264 20 күн бұрын
Thank you. Quite certain I can do that myself. The bonding plug part was new to me. I have the battery.
@mikeglasgow9618
@mikeglasgow9618 23 күн бұрын
1,000 Watt inverter method is the one posted in a previous video is the one I want to go with. Pigtailed to my Chevy 2500HD Duramax. Also, I store my Deep Cycle RV batteries in my garage in the winter.
@frankjones5283
@frankjones5283 7 күн бұрын
Good advice if the power goes out during the Winter and you are home. It usually happens here during the hot weather which requires much more power needs. During a rain storm my basement is in danger of flooding. I may need 15 amps of power for the sump pumps alone and the power may be out for days. My solution is using an inverter attached to my truck battery with extension cords. Of course the best solution would be to have an automatic whole house generator set up. This is just another quickie inexpensive solution if you are home when it happens.
@neilbrookins8428
@neilbrookins8428 23 күн бұрын
If the wire coming into the box is both 14 gauge and also fed from a 15 amp breaker then it doesn’t make sense to use the outlet shown which is for 20 amp service.
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
why argue for the 1-2 bucks extra, other than it's not code to have a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit, which is usually is on a small furnace.
@neilbrookins8428
@neilbrookins8428 17 күн бұрын
@@rupe53 it’s a simple issue. The 20 amp outlet allows you to plug in a 20 amp load device. That will trip the 15 amp breaker. You shouldn’t mislead a person to think the circuit supports 20 amps when it does not.
@rupe53
@rupe53 17 күн бұрын
@@neilbrookins8428 and that's the reasoning behind the code not allowing a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit. BTW, a 15 amp breaker will run overloaded for many minutes before tripping. The problem will eventually be failing insulation due to heat cycling if it gets used that way.
@BoringVolcanicField
@BoringVolcanicField 18 күн бұрын
That’s a great way to get an essential backup. Our setup is with a 120V Reliance TF151W 15A Easy/Tran Furnace Transfer Switch. Hardwired in and attached to the furnace and UL listed and inspected/approved by county. Takes an extension cord outlet as input. Had it on the old furnace and was essential last winter when had ice storm, sub freezing temps, and 70 mph winds that took out power for an extended amount of time. Used a Ecoflow Delta 2 as a buffer between our Honda EU3000is Gen and the furnace and other sensitive electronics like routers, cable modem, tv, etc. Extended cold weather took out old furnace heat exchangers so Gen backup transferred to new furnace. First time we needed to run generator overnight in 15 years we had Gen.
@danielworden4695
@danielworden4695 12 күн бұрын
Going to do this to mine at winter cleaning the furnace.i have a gas generator in garage I'm going to run an extension cord from.
@MrRaymond1021
@MrRaymond1021 14 күн бұрын
Would this idea work with an electric heater/AC or it's only for gas operating system? Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍
@peterkavan8368
@peterkavan8368 23 күн бұрын
Your GFI wall outlet may have reverse polarity because your tester was chirping when you plugged it into the neutral slot on the plug.
@EricN73158
@EricN73158 15 күн бұрын
I know people hate me for always pointing this out. Anyways at 3:25. So you check the tester to see if the tester is working on a known live source, then check if what you are working on is off, BUT after seeing it is off you check the tester again to see if it did not break. It is more or less standard for how to test if something is dead. I have seen once the tester break after checking it worked then on what should of been dead and someone got shocked.
@josephpuchel6497
@josephpuchel6497 23 күн бұрын
Hey Very nice tutorial
@scott-kf1bi
@scott-kf1bi 13 күн бұрын
My furnace has a lite switch and 2 outlets. Love your idea, I just need to do a little research on how to wire my set up.
@dguiley
@dguiley 15 күн бұрын
My first attempt at being able to supply critical items like my furnace and well pump (120v) was a manual transfer switch: I cut the power wires going to them and inserted male and female plugs inline. In the event of an emergency, I manually ran an extension cord from my generator to the basement and switched to it supplying the power. Never had to use it tho. Since then, I’ve added an inlet box for my generator and tied it to my breaker box with an interlock.
@munozinni
@munozinni 19 күн бұрын
Hola señor Dave!!! Excellent video and very educational …Saludos !!!👋😊👋
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc 7 күн бұрын
In san jose code means your external tankless is plugged into a gfci outlet.when it failed the gfci i just used an extension cord from garage to have hot water.
@patrickgr1547
@patrickgr1547 9 күн бұрын
We love winter ❄️ thanks another great how do video.
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 8 күн бұрын
While I don't have a need for this where I live [building built by FDR's WPA in 1939 as a school two years before I was born; converted to residential use in the '60's}, as my gas wall heater's thermostat is a two stage affair between how cold I feel and how cold my round 12'' dia. Taylor outdoor thermometer in the living room tells me it is. The blower is a 5 bladed, 52" dia ceiling fan. So, unless the thermo-couple fails (always keep a spare handy) or the gas supply is interrupted, all I have to do is rotate the L-shaped [looks like an Allen key] lever to on, adjust as necessary and I'm in business. No electricity, no heater fan, but a couple of dancing girls with palm fronds and ostrich feathers will take care of that minor detail. My question to you is about the Bonding Plug: I trained as a Power Man [MOS 640] at Fort Gordon, GA., in 1959, did well enough (top 10% - a.k.a. head of my class) that they sent me back to where I'd taken basic, Fort Ord, CA., and put me in charge of the fort's generator pool which also entailed going TDY [Temporary Duty] to Camp Roberts by Paso Robles and the Hunter Liggett Military Reservation by King City. I don't remember learning about "Bonding Plugs", but a quick glance at any of the skeletal ones depicted tells me they're basically a three wire plug with the ground and neutral prongs connected with an insulated 14 or 12 gauge, 15 or 20 amp rated jumper fuse wire between neutral and ground. Correct? [Yes, if anyone ever says: "Here, hold this wire. Now, hold this other one" - DON'T DO IT!]
@KevinKinder-ey9gv
@KevinKinder-ey9gv 22 күн бұрын
My oil furnace has been set up like that since it was installed works great
@KenButters-d6x
@KenButters-d6x 19 күн бұрын
Good idea But why didn’t you just use one of the knockouts on the SG box instead of drilling a hole in the furnace.
@stevea6722
@stevea6722 16 күн бұрын
Very well could have but it might get a little crowded. Changing from a single gang box to a double gang with a single outlet cover would fix that as well.
@jerrybell6786
@jerrybell6786 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. Where do we find and calculate the needed wattage for the furnace to correctly size the generator?
@MarkBarrja
@MarkBarrja 21 күн бұрын
Hey thank you for this video and all that you do for DIYers, just wanted to get some ideas on your approach doing this having a transformer on the opposite side of the socket
@daneking1209
@daneking1209 23 күн бұрын
God bless you for this good sir. Earned my sub
@Dan-bl4un
@Dan-bl4un 23 күн бұрын
Very good video. Thanks for sharing. I've also watched your other videos about this and. Keep it up.
@GreyRockOne
@GreyRockOne 23 күн бұрын
Excellent! Thanks Dave
@illuminatiagent7691
@illuminatiagent7691 16 күн бұрын
if you have a gas furnace, then look around it. You'll find a little box with a switch that says "auto"/"manual. When power goes, just push it to "manual," and your furnace will work, no control over the thermostat but heat in the home till power comes back. Much easier than playing with the system.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 15 күн бұрын
And what runs the fan ?
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo 4 күн бұрын
I hate stranded wire. I use crimps and wago always now. Especially going back to troubleshoot someone else's work. Usually the stranded wire is the culprit with it falling out or a few strands making contact with a screw or marrete.
@aaronblackford981
@aaronblackford981 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. So much better than the “widow makers of the past that I had to learn to make work. But I am much older so I should know more now. Never thought of doing this method. But I gotta figure out my situation with a gas mounted furnace that’s completely outside. Hmm. I shall find a video. It’s a weird house I got and with all the outside venting ish by looks. I know how the house was originally designed in the 60s and how they decided to do the design as a single home they prob ever built with what little money they had and never meant to sold until both died. Things like design from the foundation to to the roof in 70 years amazes me.
@the-Bhawk7
@the-Bhawk7 16 күн бұрын
Would I need a bonding plug for a solar inverter..... thanks for posting just what i needed.
@just-me-where-ever-ek8kp
@just-me-where-ever-ek8kp 8 күн бұрын
As far as the external double Receptacle , why not use one with an “ON/OFF” Switch?Keeps the convenience of the Furnace shut-off at the Furnace.
@KurtKoster-s6t
@KurtKoster-s6t 23 күн бұрын
Code in Denver says you must have a flip switch to cut power and a screw in fuse at furnace
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
that's actually a national code. Code also says you can't have a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 15 күн бұрын
I have Never seen a screw in fuse at a furnace so it can not be a national rule !
@rupe53
@rupe53 15 күн бұрын
@@josephpadula2283 the part about a screw in fuse likely dates back to at least WWII and never got removed. (maybe even the 1920s) The reason was adding central heat to a home without adding an extra circuit to the fuse box. IOW, tying into an existing power feed in the basement and making your own branch line. There was actually a combination switch / fuse base made to fit a 2x4 box with a small flip-up cover for the fuse. (have one in my house) Kinda cute but short lived because many just installed a ceramic bulb fixture and landed the fuse there, next to the switch box. Screw in fuses have the same thread as a lightbulb.
@ENKTechnologies
@ENKTechnologies 23 күн бұрын
What kind of gas line/fitting did you use in this installation? BTW I used your videos, got my technician license and saved $14,000 installing a hybrid 4 ton heatpump/gas furnace by myself! Thank you so much!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 23 күн бұрын
It’s a quick connect that is typically used for gas grills. Because this is in the middle of my garage I didn’t want to out in a permanent one so this works great. Obviously not up to code for a permanent installation.
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 13 күн бұрын
Thanks COOP ...
@bluejay713
@bluejay713 12 күн бұрын
Hi when you install your own diy hvac system iv seen on other video it might not be a good idea to use stay brite 8 the acid from the flux will mix with the refrigerant and cause a compressor failure unless you flush out the line sets after your done using stay brite 8.
@Benmelech
@Benmelech 11 күн бұрын
13:20 Why have all that excess cord to bundle up? Cut it shorter to begin with🤔.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 11 күн бұрын
Because it needs to be long enough to reach he power station lol
@tommygun6028
@tommygun6028 6 сағат бұрын
Great Video, but how long that $1200 dji electric generator will last before it's out of juice ?
@manovcncanada
@manovcncanada 10 күн бұрын
Wow I will keep that in my data it great idea for. Emergency situation
@rajgandhi6163
@rajgandhi6163 Күн бұрын
Great information ❤
@tombruce5758
@tombruce5758 22 күн бұрын
Question, If you don't have a power station, can you use a portable gas generator outside and do you still need the bonding plug. Thanks for such a good informational video, makes it really easy to understand.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 22 күн бұрын
Yes absolutely
@neilbrookins8428
@neilbrookins8428 17 күн бұрын
@@diyhvacguy No, most gas generators are already bonded so no plug is needed. Also, most 120v outlets on a gas generator is gfci and you CAN’T use a bonding plug on a gfci without tripping it.
@mikemundt3218
@mikemundt3218 13 күн бұрын
My furnace was hard wired. It didn't have a switch. I just opened up the furnace and the junction box inside and pulled the wires to the outside of the furnace. Installed a box and outlet on the end of the house wiring. Then, I added the pigtail and the connection of the pigtail to the furnace is in the junction box inside the furnace. I just did this today in advance of this evening's big windstorm. So, I shouldn't lose power now.
@danielfuentes892
@danielfuentes892 3 күн бұрын
What's the capacity of the power generator you are using and should it be used as a dedicated furnace power source?
@jameskringlee8974
@jameskringlee8974 23 күн бұрын
Probably best to use a single outlet (not duplex). Any "inspector", rightfully could point out that the second outlet invites someone to wrongfully plug something in to what is required to be a single use furnace circuit. A well made, old style, twisted together wires with a well tightened and taped wire nut IS THE BEST most reliable wire connection
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
It's actually common to have an outlet for a condensate pump with AC or a condensing furnace. The code violation will be a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit. BTW, while a plug is ok by code as a disconnect, furnace code will still call for a switch. IOW, he probably needs both.
@jameskringlee8974
@jameskringlee8974 21 күн бұрын
@@rupe53 Thank You. I have a 80% furnace and do not have any condensate pump/ condensing furnace experience. I Am of the opinion that it is too much "complicated efficiency" for stand alone reliability in these times. I too noticed the 20 amp outlet and 14 gauge cord and circuit wiring? so a switched outlet - single or duplex as indicated?
@clemsmith1169
@clemsmith1169 7 күн бұрын
A good practice is to do the job right. If you're not lazy or sloppy. You don't need to tape it
@lschoolfield
@lschoolfield 21 күн бұрын
Excellent video! I have a heat pump, but only use the "emergency" gas setting. I'm confused because I only have a hot and a neutral wire supplied to the unit. Can this still be done?
@MatthewVikdal
@MatthewVikdal 17 күн бұрын
Great information. My question would be, can I use a car adapter plug in to run my furnace? I realize I need to keep an eye on my battery volt level.
@DavidLopez-po6pb
@DavidLopez-po6pb 14 күн бұрын
It is verrey important , interesting , educational, GRACIAS BRO
@jasonthurston799
@jasonthurston799 Күн бұрын
i had an inspector over to inspect a new sub-panel in my garage, he wouldn't pass me until I put a hand rail up along side the 3 steps up to the garage from the lower floor of my house. He also would't approve my panel unless I either removed or hardwired the two fluorescent lights I'd hung on my ceiling over where my car parks. This makes me wonder if it would be legal in my area to convert my boiler over to being a plugin boiler when it is permanently fixed appliance.
@Raymond-rr5iv
@Raymond-rr5iv 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this very interesting, fabulous video that could save people's lives and is very simple to do (if you follow the directions above ).
@kevingeorge644
@kevingeorge644 17 күн бұрын
Outstanding job Thanks
@michaelfelix1
@michaelfelix1 8 күн бұрын
Awesome video sir. Thank You.
@Sawpainter_td
@Sawpainter_td 21 күн бұрын
Love the video. Thanks for the info! Heads up, Anker had a recall on a few of their powerbanks at the end of September 2024. Check out the recall notice before you purchase. I have an Anker power bank, and mine is fine.
@MaMa-qh4dy
@MaMa-qh4dy 23 күн бұрын
Inverters attached to a car usually produce "dirty power" -- NON-pure sine wave. Can this effect the sensitive control board or possibly other components????
@aldengreypresents
@aldengreypresents 2 күн бұрын
Would it be wise to use a GCI to protect the furnace from power surges?
@Weak_juan
@Weak_juan 7 сағат бұрын
You mean gfci? It does nothing to protect you from surges. You need to install a surge protector in your panel closest to the line side. Or..use a power surge protector bar on the outlet and plug your furnace into that.
@michiganman845
@michiganman845 23 күн бұрын
Can you run an extension cord from outside gas generator and plug it into the pigtail, instead of the battery generator?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 23 күн бұрын
Correct
@BillyBobDingledorf
@BillyBobDingledorf 22 күн бұрын
Interesting about the furnace needing bonded neutral. Also interesting that a portable power station isn't bonded. A little info on how to tell the difference would be helpful. Bonus: Making your own bonded plug is super easy.
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
most of the control circuits are DC and use the cabinet as a ground. Yeah, it's screwball but reality.
@ADAdams-wn1nc
@ADAdams-wn1nc 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for your informative and easy to understand videos. I have set up y furnace as you instructed in your video. I have not tested it yet as I am trying to figure out a battery (inverter) size to buy for this purpose. I do have a Honda generator that I can plug into the lighting panel but it is larger than I would need to just run the furnace for a short period of time for emergency heat. Any suggestions on a video to recommend the best battery (inverter) brand and size to use to run the furnace in an emergency?
@user-mt1dn4vr3z
@user-mt1dn4vr3z Күн бұрын
what about a standard generator? do you still need a bonding plug?
@eugenestone9207
@eugenestone9207 Күн бұрын
My house has a boiler. Water baseboard heat. Will this work as well?
@rontcyip
@rontcyip 23 күн бұрын
Is the bonding plug necessary if the power station is plugged in an outlet? I asked because I noticed my power station has no ground stand along; but grounded when plugged in. Thanks Great video btw!
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc 7 күн бұрын
how about main for heater goes to a switch 1st then to an outlet a single one with a snap cover. You then have the furnace hooked to a 12 guage wired plug. That when its house power its plugged in to outlet. then when power out you flip switch unplug furnace and plug it into another source like your battery backup... why do this because sheet happens I dont like a breaker flipped its just stupid waiting to happen.. Oh Id also add a 120v small red or green bulb before switch to know when power is restored. and you can re attach the main power at furnace inside of the home. No woops did I flip the right breaker. No double powering no honey or some one else flipping breaker on.. we all make woops.. remembber flashlight always work in daylight.
@onehitpick9758
@onehitpick9758 13 күн бұрын
It's better to have the switch, and have the switch run to an outlet on the wall from the start. If this is not the way it's already wired, then I guess this is a good fix, but I'd rather have a furnace switch and a wall outlet be code. Then you can simply put a UPS in, and you're good to go in emergencies. A decent UPS should be able to light a furnace for weeks of a power outage. Generators can't be indoors and require setup and possibly starting fluid to get going if they've been on ice for a while.
@AtypicalNintiesKid
@AtypicalNintiesKid 11 күн бұрын
question! could one use a light switch plug combo so one doesn't lose that functionality? anyway nice video very informative and concise ^-^
@1johnnycs
@1johnnycs 23 күн бұрын
What is the name of the power supply unit.? Or where can one get something similiar ? THANKS !
@currentfaves65
@currentfaves65 23 күн бұрын
Just search portable power station, Bluetti, EcoFlow, Jackery are a few of the top brands.
@williameisenberg1999
@williameisenberg1999 20 күн бұрын
This will work but not advisable for a furnace to be cord and plug connected.
@bluejay713
@bluejay713 12 күн бұрын
Hi you wouldn't need to buy this from amazon home depot sales these unless people want to spend extra money on shipping.
@larryh.5101
@larryh.5101 15 күн бұрын
How do you handle a fused shutoff box between your furnace and the breaker, how would you recommend wiring it in for use case?
@7ceasers
@7ceasers 2 күн бұрын
My major headache during a power outage is lack of water because I'm on a well. Are there portable units that can supply 220VAC?
@GeorgeKennedy-u4r
@GeorgeKennedy-u4r 23 күн бұрын
Nice idea man. OK if you have a "battery power station" but just with a actual generator it would have to be outside. How much power/current does the average furnace draw? If it's that 230w then the battery amp draw is 10 times that or about 20A. I know that usually the gel-cell batteries (like the ones for UPS backup) are shit. only last perhaps 2 years even if not used, and are expensive to replace.
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
read your data tag then figure out if the watts are combined or separate for the heater and blower. Most will be in the 200 - 400 watt range. That's 2-4 amps total. An oil or gas boiler will be in the 2-3 amp range, including the circulators.
@keithdouglas3586
@keithdouglas3586 5 күн бұрын
Quick question. What size power station is recommended. 2000/3000 watt? How do I recharge power station if power goes out. I assume my gas generator could charge it. Thanks
@billballoo7881
@billballoo7881 20 күн бұрын
There are all types of thermostats out there and different wires coming out of the wall from the A/C. How do you know if you are buying the right thermostat?
@neilbrookins8428
@neilbrookins8428 23 күн бұрын
I can see that the original furnace before modification was fed by a metal conduit and rated for high temperature. But the post modified feed is plastic with a possible lower temperature rating. This is not ideal and possibly violates code that requires high temperature rating.
@rupe53
@rupe53 21 күн бұрын
Making that connection OUTSIDE the cabinet solves the code issue.
@Honestandtruth007
@Honestandtruth007 23 күн бұрын
Great idea 💡💯💡 as Always 👍. 8 years ago when I installed a gas self igniter Heater on the Wall.... And did Convertion run on Natural gas on the GENERATOR. Everyone in my Family Complained about it and made a lot of Bad Comments. Why this and why that❓❓ 2-years Later, We we had Winter storm and ice and Power outage. Many people were moved to Hotel and some Old people were dead without electricity. Then everyone in my Family said to me " You are Smart guy and always prepared"... People in General they don't See and don't believe. In my mind I called them what a Clueless and Stupid people.
@options9119
@options9119 23 күн бұрын
for a blower motor rated 1/3 hp, 115 V, 5.1 A, what size power station would be required?
@ModleskyAutoDetailing
@ModleskyAutoDetailing 8 күн бұрын
Does this work for hot water baseboard as well? Just need power for ignition
@GH0ST369
@GH0ST369 12 күн бұрын
So what is the likelyhood the natural gas pump station will be down if the grid is down?
@uptoolate2793
@uptoolate2793 11 күн бұрын
Less.
@paulsylvester1394
@paulsylvester1394 15 күн бұрын
I strongly recommend you use nothing but 3M electrical tape. It guarantees the highest quality. We use it for all connections on railroad signals in awful environments and it stays attached and remains pliable.
@paulcarlomagno1673
@paulcarlomagno1673 8 күн бұрын
I would just leave the switch alone and E Extension cord to the Box inside and you make sure to cove the end of the extension cord this way if you have power outage you can flip the switch off and plug in your extension cord power source this way you're not removing the switch and the hardwired circuit.
@todd2456
@todd2456 23 күн бұрын
Can you also do this if your switch is on the wall, away from the furnace? I'm trying to wrap my head around how the wiring would work. Maybe after coffee.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 23 күн бұрын
lol coffee is always important. So it would be extremely easy. All you’d do is kill power at the breaker, remove your switch as well as the conduit that runs from your switch to the furnace, and then simply install the outlet where the switch was. Then you’d just put the pigtail in place of the conduit! I could probably do a video on this but I’m not sure how many furnaces would be oriented this way. Cheers
@todd2456
@todd2456 23 күн бұрын
@@diyhvacguy Thanks, that makes sense. You mentioned something about not having the pigtail too long. The distance up the wall and over the ceiling and down to the furnace is probably longer than the 9' pigtail. Assuming I get a longer pigtail, would you be concerned about that longer length? Thanks a ton!
@todd2456
@todd2456 23 күн бұрын
@@diyhvacguy I think I'm overthinking this. Couldn't I just leave the wire in the conduit, and use a short pigtail where it terminates in the switch box to then act as the plug after I change the switch to an outlet?
@todd2456
@todd2456 22 күн бұрын
@@diyhvacguy It worked great! Thanks!
@HPL5P
@HPL5P 23 күн бұрын
You should have just installed that cable clamp in to the junction box and made the termination inside that.. Done and done. This hurts my head. The idea is on point though.
@mikejohnson8792
@mikejohnson8792 8 күн бұрын
Probably a dumb question, but I am no electrician. The outlet installed replacing the switch, can you plug the pig tail in either one?
@neilbrookins8428
@neilbrookins8428 23 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t the green wire entering the box with the outlet have a pigtail that connects to the box itself? Meaning that the incoming ground splits to both the outlet and the box. The original setup when switched off was still grounded to source. The new configuration when unplugged is no longer grounded. This is unsafe.
@mazomopar2156
@mazomopar2156 22 күн бұрын
The ground wire screw of the outlet should be made with a small piece of conductor that communicates with the screw that holds the outlet into to the box. Allowing the ground circut to travel into the box.
@jean8042
@jean8042 14 күн бұрын
My husband and I had someone do this for us for 50 dollars but going to a Honda generator outside, I must mention the local furnace company wanted 500 dollars for this job.
@seannunes2041
@seannunes2041 23 күн бұрын
Thank you. Can I do the same for a gas boiler?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 23 күн бұрын
Yes if it’s 120v then absolutely
@seannunes2041
@seannunes2041 23 күн бұрын
@diyhvacguy Thank you!
@samrmills
@samrmills 3 күн бұрын
How did you get that dji1000 to power your furnace without a bonding plug in your video 6 months ago? Thx!
@skydancerforever
@skydancerforever 9 күн бұрын
Do the wago connection work on small wires like the ones that comes from the thrmostat down to the furnace?
@jdthewelder8308
@jdthewelder8308 23 күн бұрын
If the power is out how long will the "gas" continue to flow to houses?
@MrToLIL
@MrToLIL 22 күн бұрын
That gas is coming through pressurized lines from many miles away. And those stations have their own back up systems.
@jdthewelder8308
@jdthewelder8308 21 күн бұрын
@@MrToLIL Thanks for the response I understand how the gas comes to my house I want to know an estimate of how many days or weeks the back up systems at the gas company will continue to work...
@almostrvperfect6203
@almostrvperfect6203 17 күн бұрын
@@MrToLIL Correct. My late uncle was a gas meter man. I ask that question 25 years ago. Sometimes the gas travels 100's of miles before getting to your house. Its the gas companies first priority as they cannot bill if the gas doesn't get to your house. They are backed up 6 ways to Sunday including earth quake designs. Just sayin.
@paulsullivan3154
@paulsullivan3154 Күн бұрын
Where do you get those power things for under $20?
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments 21 күн бұрын
I never thought to do this. Hey where do you get those enclosure boxes that was on the inside? I didn;t see a link for that.
@Beautiful-Disaster
@Beautiful-Disaster 7 күн бұрын
I have an oil furnace, if this is for natural gas furnaces what can I do, how does this help me?
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