DJI Mini 4 Pro Hidden Accessory / Is It Really an Accessory Though?

[@CreateandKaptivate]

I seen your comment on my channel earlier, and figured I should leave a comment here, just to let you know I've been watching. LOL Your videos are entertaining to watch, I enjoy the humor, and the tests of course. But I actually didn't know there were after market batteries out there. And good to know they work.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol are you a spy? We are glad you enjoy the videos man. I really appreciate it but I concede you’re videos are at a whole new level. I’m just glad we found your channel when we did so we could witness how quickly it’s growing. Awesome stuff. You da man!

[@CreateandKaptivate]

That's quite the compliment, thanks!!

[@gama45]

Another great comparison test. Very impressive for a non DJI battery, and for $25 less! Also Hi, beep beep to Kristi! Thanks Kevin, for another great video, and thanks to Kristi for leaving in the bloopers. Hahaha

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol thanks, Gary! I agree with you. The battery performed well and the price is great. I saw a comment though saying it’s only listed for $71 if you have a prime account; otherwise it’s $85. I wasn’t aware of that. As usual. Haha. Bloopers are always the best part!

[@gama45]

@@WeretheRoberts Yes, I have a Prime account, so the price I saw was $71.99. 👍 And yes, the bloopers are the best part! 😂

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol sweet!

[@FredHarvey-wp2qy]

There are some differences between the lithium Ion (LIon) battery and the lithium polymer (LiPo) battery. One battery rating is Watt Density. Essentially how much power you can get from a certain volume of battery. LIon's have a slightly higher watt density compared to the Lipo's. Your test showed that. You got just slightly longer flight time with the standard pack. The advantage to the LiPo is that it is more rugged and can take more abuse. LIon batteries do best in devices like laptops, tablets and computers. These devices have enough smarts built into them to monitor the battery and to shut down before the battery pack is damaged. If you run a LIon battery flat, it is an odds-on bet that it is destroyed. LiPo batteries can often be brought back to life by charging them. Lipo's also tend to be a bit safer, but either battery chemistry can catch fire during charging or if it is short circuited. Always keep an eye on your batteries when they are charging! Houses have been burned to the ground from fires that lithium batteries started.

[@WeretheRoberts]

I didn’t know anything about the differences in lithium batteries until I got this one in the mail. We had a computer battery that was swollen and caused a bunch of problems with our laptop. We ordered a new one and I was shocked at the difference in size of the new vs the old. We were fortunate not to be one of those house fire stats for sure.

[@FredHarvey-wp2qy]

​@@WeretheRobertsOnce a lithium battery starts to swell, it needs to be disposed of! Its capacity is reduced and the chances of it causing a fire are much increased. A quick and cheap safety for charging your drone batteries is a terra cotta flower pot. Put the batteries in it while they are charging. The pot can handle the heat from a fire and won't set the table it's sitting on ablaze. You might get some smoke damage but that is all.

[@conorstewart2214]

From everything I have seen most of what you said is actually reversed except for li-ion cells having a higher energy density which is easy to see here since the capacity is similar but the lipo batteries are heavier. I wouldn't say that lipos are more rugged (they tend to be less rugged, they definitely are easier to puncture or dent), lipos are pouch cells and the walls are pretty thin whereas li-ion cells tend to have a metal casing that is generally cylindrical. Also li-ion batteries can be discharged lower, most are rated to 2.5 V although you should keep above 3 V whereas the safe minimum for lipos is 3 V and you shouldn't take them much lower than 3.5 V in normal use. Lipos aren't really safe to bring back to life either, if you overdischarge them then you need to slowly charge them to bring them back but still it increases internal resistance (which means lower max current and more heat generated in normal use) and decreases capacity and can make them puff or swell, for the most part it isn't worth even trying to bring lipos back and if you do you should treat it carefully, like not pushing it hard, a lot of people when they recharge overdischarged lipos tend to keep them for slow flights or use them just as a portable way to charge other batteries. Lipos also have a lower cycle life than li-ion meaning they don't last for as many charge cycles. Li-ion tends to have higher internal resistance and lower current ratings but in a long range or high endurance drone that isn't an issue and you want the higher energy density of li-ion. This is why freestyle or racing drones use lipos but long range or endurance drones (like DJI) use li-ion. Also you can get protected li-ion cells with built in protection but you don't get protected lipos although you should never rely on a li-ions protection (it is meant for if anything goes wrong and is hence set to the limits of the battery, so usually 2.5 V for the overdischarge protection) and you should add you own protection too but it does mean you have an extra layer of protection. The reason li-ion was used in laptops is for the higher energy density, although laptops and phones now tend to use lipos because it is easier to fit a pouch cell in than a cylinder since it can be thinner.

[@ronaldwilson9525]

Mini 4 pro looked great Kevin. My Air 3 arrived yesterday and I can’t wait. Unfortunately I can’t fly it until this weekend because we have overtime at work this week. I got to take it when we have it and I’m always off weekends anyway. But the extra money helps justify the cost of the Air. Great job.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol the dreaded, but necessary overtime. I totally hear what you’re saying, man. I bet you’re chomping at the bit to get out there and fly that Air 3 lol. Keep us in the loop for sure on what you think of it once you get the first flight jitters out of the way. Haha. Congrats!!!

[@dougcooper4917]

Excellent comparison test video and information. Excellent verse. Thank you Kevin. God Bless You and Kristi.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Thanks as always, Doug! God bless you as well. I may not understand all this tech stuff, but I understand the verses. Lol

[@ORGANIZEDCoNfUsioN]

Hey Kevin, that's cool when companies are coming to you for testing. Good job buddy. Like # 20!!!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol. Thanks, man. Not sure why they’re messaging us. Maybe they want to make sure even the lowest common denominator can use their products. Hahaha

[@TheDroneRanger215]

Great drone content like always. Keep them coming.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol thanks brother! We aren’t planning on stopping anytime soon. This stuff isn’t much fun. Haha. God bless.

[@olabergvall3154]

Can't believe I wasn't subscribed, I've watched many of your videos and just assumed I was. Well, that's fixed now ❤

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hahahaha. Well what’s important is you took care of that! Lol. Thanks for all your support and awesome comments by the way. Welcome home! Haha

[@shaunthedrone]

Another great test Kev and good to know the battery weighs more than the DJI Mini 4 Pro battery (no good for the EU market) taking the Mini 4 Pro over the 250 grams rule here in Spain. Many thanks for the info.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol I hear what you’re saying. It brings the Mini 4 over that 250 gram weight so it’s in a whole new class. Thanks for watching, buddy. Hope you have some good weather to fly this week!

[@finnybflyin]

Thanks for that Kevin. It good to have a lower priced battery because DJI batteries do wear out. I had the clip break on one and found out there is a 1-year warranty on it. But DJI goes by the serial number on the battery for when it was made. Not the date when you bought it. Oh, by the way. My Mini 4 Pro had that yaw drift as well until I adjusted it in the settings. It was soooooo annoying.

[@WeretheRoberts]

I was really impressed with the performance of this after market battery. I do know it’s not much less expensive than the DJI battery when it’s not on sale but every little bit helps, right? I also didn’t know DJI went by serial number manufacture date so that’s kind of disappointing. It’s hard to say how long these batteries sit waiting to be sent out, eh? Regarding the drifting, what settings did you adjust? Somehow mine seemed to fix itself for now. The last couple flights have been perfect. It’s weird!

[@thomas13livingston]

Does the use of the powerextra pro battery trigger the radio ID? I realize the aftermarket battery does not support firmware updates. I cant find an answer to that question. Does an aftermarket battery that does not support firmware updates that is over the standard M4P battery weight trigger the RID?

[@WeretheRoberts]

Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment, Thomas. I’ve been asked this question a few times and I still don’t know the answer. I use iOS phones so the drone finder app don’t work on my phones. I haven’t found anyone yet with an android phone that’s willing to help me out. Some friends they are. Lol. I promise though, I will get an answer and hopefully do a follow up video with you in mind. Awesome question and thanks again. God bless!

[@thomas13livingston]

​@@WeretheRoberts any update on this?

[@WeretheRoberts]

@@thomas13livingstonhey there, buddy. I never did find an answer to your question and I don’t think I’ll ever be able to now. Since this video, DJI’s new firmware updates for the Mini 4 pro have disabled the use of aftermarket batteries. Now when I put this battery in the drone, it’ll power up but it won’t let the drone start up. A message “non-DJI battery” pops up. Booooo!

[@GAVINHR]

So before I watch any further I’m just at the point where the rest starts, usually li-ion discharges quite nice and linear, lipo tend to have more power in the beginning then drop off quite rapidly, let’s see if that’s what happens…

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hahaha. So were you expecting it to be so close?

[@Drone.vision]

Another fantastic video brother, those batteries do look very similar! Great test as usual and very entertaining! How was the Imu calibration?, looked a lot better this time round! Keep them coming Kev! 👍

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol. Thanks for that! We always love seeing your comments. The imu calibration definitely seemed to help this time. Hopefully it lasts longer than Jack and rose. Lol.

[@valerianpereira007]

Thanks for the video. Quick question? How did you activate the battery since its a third party battery. I purchased the same battery which has 3850mah but i get an error when i insert it in the mini 4 pro. it wont fly as its not a dji battery

[@WeretheRoberts]

Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. That’s an awesome question but I may not have the answer you’re you’re looking for. This video was made a while ago with an older fly app and firmware update and I think they may have changed something with the new mini 4 pro firmware preventing aftermarket batteries. You’re the 2nd person to say their mini 4 pro will not allow them to fly using an aftermarket battery so far. I’m gonna have to check that out when I get a chance to see what happens. I haven’t updated the Mini 4 pro firmware or fly app so I’m still using the 1.12.8 version. Are you on the 1.13.0 fly app?

[@valerianpereira007]

@@WeretheRoberts Yes im currently on the new version as i just recently bought it.

[@WeretheRoberts]

@@valerianpereira007dang. I’m hoping it’s changed when the newer firmware comes out. DJI must not want outside competition. Lol.

[@JMprodquad]

Hey Kevin, great test, and great alternative for batteries…👍 I have a question for you off-topic. I plan to visit Florida this summer and I’ll be staying at Redington. “as a Canadian visiting who wants to fly their Mini 4 pro drone in Florida” Can you direct me to a proper resource where I can find these details? Thanks brother, I would appreciate that. Jerry

[@WeretheRoberts]

Awesome, Jerry! Thanks for watching as always, brother. So far this battery seems to be a great alternative but I’m gonna get some more flights and charges through it to go all in. Lol. Regarding the flights in Florida, I’d say just remember to avoid flying in the State Park and National park areas if there’s any there. Also, I use an app called Air Data and they recently added the LAANC authorization option to the app. It’s pretty cool. It’ll show you a map and highlights all the special areas like airports, no fly zones, etc. it’s a great app and it also shows the weather conditions. Are you talking about Reddington beach? That’s a beautiful area! It’s a ways away from our town though. Boooo! Lol

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hey man. I re-read your comment and realized you were probably referring to a website for the FAA for compliance. lol. Sorry man.Try www.faa.gov/uas This should get you the info you need or at least to a spot you can navigate to with contact info for the faa

[@JMprodquad]

Hey Kevin, thanks for getting back to me with all that info… i will download the LAANC app and check out the web link you provided for details. Really appreciated 👍. Yes, I will be staying around Redington Beach if all goes according to plan. Keep on doing what you do…🙂 Talk to you soon. Jerry

[@WeretheRoberts]

@JMprodquad sweet. I’m not sure if you’ll be required to register your drone being from Canada. I’m sure it’ll depend on the weight but there may be some requirement for going from country to country. I’m sure you’ll find the info you need though. The FAA seems really helpful on the phone too.

[@JMprodquad]

Kevin, thank you that’s really helpful… If you ever visit in Canada you can always reach out to me and I will try to be as helpful as you have been. 👍👍👍

[@BeachLifeDroneGuy]

Hi. You mentioned that you don’t have your Part 107. Be careful. The FAA is checking. You need it if you’re flying anything other than recreational. Having a KZbin channel flying a drone is considered commercial. I just got my 107. It’s a bit of work but not that hard to pass. I used Pilot Institute to study. By the way, love your channel!!😎

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment, buddy. It’s always awesome to hear when someone enjoys our stuff. 😀 Regarding the 107, I do not have it and from what I’ve researched, we are still considered recreational because we aren’t a monetized channel. We don’t receive compensation for our footage. I think if we were to monetize the channel, we’d definitely be considered commercial but for now I’m sure we’re safe. I talked to an FAA rep about it after reading your comment (along with another viewer’s comment) and am still waiting to hear back from them for the official word. Initially they said we are good to go so I’m not expecting them to change their opinion. Once I hear back from them I’ll definitely pass it along. Thanks again for the concern and for watching. God bless!

[@hawgly]

Any drone flying videos posted to KZbin are considered by the FAA to be commercial whether monetized or not. So please get your Part 107 as soon as possible to keep your great videos coming. I’m also a Part 107 FAA certified pilot via Pilot Institute having passed last spring. Keep ‘em coming!

[@WeretheRoberts]

I’m still waiting to hear back from the FAA rep but I talked to Kristi about it and I think it’s just a good time to get the scheduled and take it. We still don’t plan on monetizing the channel but we’ll see where it leads, eh? I do know just posting videos on social media doesn’t require the 107 as long as the intent is for recreational purposes though. Interpretation of intent can be sketchy though. Lol

[@BeachLifeDroneGuy]

I’ve been following a guy in Philly that has just been fined $182k for flying recreational and broke some FAA rules. He was counseled and continued to break rules. And he actually posted videos of breaking FAA rules. Flying 14k feet. Way beyond line of sight. And higher than 400 feet. I like your content! Get your 107 and keep posting!😎👍

[@lawrencewallace7501]

Hello, just subscribed. Great video, and thanks for sharing. I noticed there is about a minute difference in recording times as well as estimated flight time remaining, both higher times on the DJI. So, if the actual flight times are about a minute's difference, and if there is a minute longer in the estimated that seems to mean their flight times could actually be pert near the same. If I'm thinking correctly, that means the two batteries have within seconds the same flight time, making the other battery even of a great deal.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol “pert near”. I like it! Welcome to the family, brother! It’s always awesome to read comments from people who enjoy the videos. Very cool stuff. I think you’re on to something with the remaining battery life comparisons. It totally seems like the aftermarket battery is really close to the original DJI. My only concern is it may not be an intelligent battery so the self discharge thing may not happen. I don’t know for sure but I’m gonna look into that soon. Thanks so much for watching and for the comment, man. God bless!!!! Kevin

[@lawrencewallace7501]

@@WeretheRobertsRight on brother! Keep it up! This is from Amazon. Not sure if it means it's "Smart" or not, but it looks like it could be possible.

[@aloeisthestuff9622]

Believe it or not, Lithium has been mixed with a whole host of other compounds to be used as a Energy storage medium. Some of the mixes would blow your mind! One other thing is the after market batts Most likely lack the chips/circuitry to self (storage) discharge along with a couple other Safety aspects!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol yea you know this lithium stuff is way above my head. I’m sure most of it would blow my mind. It’s amazing people can figure this kind of stuff out. I’m just glad they can so I can play with drones. Hahaha. Serious question though. Are the polymer ones more stable than the ion ones? I’ve seen some videos of battery fires that are pretty nerve racking.

[@jeffmcclain]

LiPo *should* be lighter for the same mAh rating compared to Li-Ion. Also, you may get more cycles on Li-Ion and they are somewhat safer (less likely to explode/burn up). I wonder if the "intelligent" part is also in these PowerExtra Pro batteries? Meaning, do they self discharge to a lower level after 24 hours or so? Even more important for LiPo to do that to avoid capacity loss. First time watching channel. Like your videos!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Awesome info, Jeff. I didn’t know anything about the differences in these types of batteries until I got this battery in the mail. Your less likely to explode comment made me look twice. Lol. I don’t think these are intelligent batteries though because they said not to use them for updates and stuff. I’ll definitely check though to see if they set discharge over time. I’ll keep everyone posted on what happens. (Hopefully lol)

[@MrRaymond1021]

Interesting video my friend. Keep it up, and be careful with flying and not having a part 107 certificate. That's why I don't put videos together on KZbin. I'm a recreational flyer, and having a KZbin channel requires you to have a certificate. Be careful. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍

[@WeretheRoberts]

Awesome! Thanks for watching and again taking the time to comment, buddy. Regarding the 107, I do not have it and from what I’ve researched, we are still considered recreational because we aren’t a monetized channel. We don’t receive compensation for our footage. I think if we were to monetize the channel, we’d definitely be considered commercial but for now I’m sure we’re safe. I talked to an FAA rep about it after reading your comment (along with another viewer’s comment) and am still waiting to hear back from them for the official word. Initially they said we are good to go so I’m not expecting them to change their opinion. Once I hear back from them I’ll definitely pass it along. Thanks again for the concern and for watching. God bless

[@MrRaymond1021]

@@WeretheRoberts That's good, just remember that if you are flying for the fun of it, and you are not getting paid in any way shape or form. Then you are good, but if you are getting paid for your KZbin videos, that's not recreational. It's just a heads up my friend. I don't want to hear about how you got a fine from the FAA because of KZbin videos that they do check and how they catch people. I'm not saying they're sitting around watching KZbin looking for drone flying law breakers, but they do go on KZbin to verify that you are flying for fun or not. Take care my friend, and blue skies.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Gotta say I really appreciate your heads up, brother. I’ve seen a bunch of videos lately on that Philly drone guy who’s facing a lot of fines and trouble. I don’t wanna be involved in any of that drama. Lol. I’m still waiting on the FAA rep to get back with me on my question about doing reviews because that may be looked at as “promoting a business” even though we aren’t being compensated. I’ll keep you guys all updated when I hear back. Either way I’m gonna go schedule that test again and just get it done. I won’t be doing any reviews until we hear back either. Lol.

[@MrRaymond1021]

@@WeretheRoberts Good luck on your part 107 exam. I'm sure you'll pass it without any problems. I don't do it because I'm not interested in doing videos, or advertising, or anything other than just having fun flying my drones. I love to watch others, and their videos but it's not for me. I don't want to see anyone getting fine's or prison time because they broke the drone laws. It's not cool for anyone except for the people that fly over NFL games and shit like that because that stupidity can hurt ALL OF US, and they should know better than that. See you in the next video my friend, Blue skies. 👍👍👍

[@conorstewart2214]

@@WeretheRoberts here in the UK whether you are compensated or not it doesn't matter, it matters what the footage is used for, so if you took some photos for a business but did it for free then it is still commercial use. Even if you aren't monetised, if youtube runs ads on your videos (I don't know if they do because I have premium) then that could count as commercial use as someone (doesn't have to be you) is making money from it, even indirectly. Social media sites may be different because it is the site that has ads and the ads aren't tied to anyones content, on youtube the ad is on your video, people have to watch the ad to watch or continue watching your video.

[@cherij8136]

Nice test. We finally have nice weather today to fly.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Heck yea! Get out there! Lol. We’ve had awesome weather all week so far on my days off and we’ve been enjoying it for sure.

[@Nelsonmccallum27]

great video. i was thinking about this battery but was worried about not working. have you had any problems with the aftermarket battery? also subbed to you channel

[@WeretheRoberts]

That’s awesome!!! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment, brother. This battery has so far kept up with the DJI batteries. I’ve only flown with it twice so far though so my experience is limited. Lol. I had to put a mark on it though to remind me not to use it for updates because they’re pretty much identical. I also still haven’t been able to test to see if the aftermarket batter (plus battery) activated the remote ID. I gotta get my hands on an android phone to use the drone scanner app. Maybe I could buy one and wrote it off on taxes. Hahaha. Seriously, thanks again for watching and for the support. Awesome comment. God bless!

[@norsehabanero2920]

Good test i noticed it looked like slightly different paths for the drone which may be the different flight time, i may be an interesting flight to see how waypoints compair in a side by side test also, 2 test in one, ive had my 107 a little over 2 years did it in one try , and i was also woundering about the hidden assesory, if you study for it it is not a bad test

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol ok I’ll address the hidden accessory first. I was referring to the accessory as the battery (I agree, it’s not really an accessory lol). But for arguments sake, let’s say it’s an accessory. The hidden part was that it was hidden under the word “or” in the thumbnail. Yes again, I agree. Bad joke. Lol. I guess I can’t win them all, eh? I hope that wasn’t as confusing as it seemed to me. Lol Moving on… I was going to do exactly what you mentioned with the waypoints here, but I didn’t have any idea how long to make the mission. I could totally readdress it with a mission now that I have an idea of 28 or 29 minutes of flight time, eh? That’s really a good idea, man. I am planning on taking the 107 test in the near future. I’ve studied for it a few times and was scheduled twice but got notification just before test time on both occasions I was cancelled because the instructor wasn’t available. Lol. Roberts luck. Haha. Anyway, we aren’t monetized on KZbin so we’re still considered recreational which is good. Trust me though. As soon as I get the license, it’s on! Lol

[@dgibbsfl]

The KZbin algorithm popped this one up on my homepage and I watched it. I also took a look at the demonstrated product at the link provided. Two things come to mind: 1. The Powerextra Pro battery was actually $20 dollars more expensive than the DJI intelligent flight battery both as currently advertised on Amazon. You mentioned $25 less in the video and I could not find that. 2. With everything else the same, the Powerextra Pro is not a DJI "intelligent compatible" battery for whatever that entails Why would we want to spend more money for an aftermarket battery that provides essentially the same level of performance but is not "intelligent compatible" with the manufacturer's specs? And lastly, what's up with the title on this video "DJI Mini 4 Pro Hidden Accessory / Is It Really an Accessory Though?" The title attracted my attention so that worked but the video content did not seem to relate to the title....at all. Is this your normal mode of operation or did you have some sort of brain fart by mismatching selected video with selected title?

[@WeretheRoberts]

Im glad the algorithm popped this up on your homepage. I don’t think anyone can figure out how that thing works. Seems random to me but I’m not a KZbin expert. Lol. I appreciate your insights here for sure so I’ll try to address them the best I can. The price differences I was referring to were between the powerextra pro plus battery and the DJI Mini 4 pro plus battery. The Amazon listing for powerextra pro showed $71 and DJI has their battery listed for $95. The Amazon sale may no longer be in play but also, I learned through another comment that $71 sale price is only for prime account members. The regular price is $85 which is still $10less expensive than DJI. But your point about buying an aftermarket Margery that’s not “intelligent compatible” is spot on. I still have some testing to do on this battery for sure. Ok now let’s tackle the thumbnail or title. I like the brain fart possibility lol. Actually, I was told I’d probably get some negative feedback on the title here. I was referring to the battery as the hidden accessory and the reason it was hidden was because it was behind the word “or” on the thumbnail. Some may say it’s not an accessory so I figured I’d ask if it was really an accessory. Ok, I admit… It was more creative in my mind than on paper I reckon. Lol.

[@dgibbsfl]

@@WeretheRoberts I went back and looked again and you are of course correct, the DJI Intelligent Flight Battery Plus is indeed listed for $95. I was looking at just the Intelligent Flight Battery pricing...not the plus. So it does make the Powerextra Pro $10 less cost. I think I understand your thought logic on the video title. I enjoyed you and the way you presented yourself and the information in the video by the way. You put a lot into those side by side flight data videos and the boom affect at the 20% mark was pretty cool. I can sort of tell that you are a real drone enthusiast. I am too. I think the Mini 4 Pro is a marvelous bit of tech.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Awesome reply, brother. I really appreciate your kind words and your approach. This drone stuff is alot of fun and I have a bunch to learn still about them and about KZbin. We always like to hear other people’s thoughts on this stuff so we can put out better videos for sure. We aren’t a monetized channel and it’s all for fun but we still want people to enjoy the videos and not feel like they’ve been click baited. I do admit, this thumbnail could easily be viewed as click bait. Lol

[@nobby-green]

One question i'd like to know, Did the IMU calibration fix the drifting issue? I guess we will have to wait for the answer next week lol. Nice test man! Keep safe brother 👍

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol yes it seemed to fix the slow turn. I guess I forgot to address that. Haha. Spoiler alert for next week. It returned!!! Boooo!

[@nobby-green]

@@WeretheRoberts could be a stick calibration required then.

[@CarryTheTruth]

You are wearing the colors blue and orange, which are the Boise State Bronco and also Denver Bronco colors (and, I'm sure, many other other school /sport team colors). Except, you're wearing a General Lee hat, and that is totally funny!

[@WeretheRoberts]

I went to Hundred High School and our colors were blue and white. But I’ve always been a General Lee fan. Hahaha. I bet you couldn’t tell. Lol

[@TheGrayLifewithJimPearl]

Ok, Kristi, if Kevin starts singing please get very creative with the edit. Now to the video, a good test for the quantity of the battery would be how well it performs after 50+ charge cycles..

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hahaha. I don’t think there’s enough creativity on earth to edit that video, man. Kristi agrees. Hahaha. 50+ cycles? That’ll take at least 50 days after I retire. Lol.

[@TC_Conner]

Interesting battery comparison, but what was the "hidden accessory?" Or was "it really an accessory though?" Does the extra weight of those batteries put the drone over 250 grams? And if you take the Part 107, I just might also!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol thanks, TC. To answer the easier question first, yea this is a plus battery so it’ll put the drone over the 250 gram weight. Ok now onto the tougher one. I had a different title at first but it wasn’t click baity enough so I had to add some embellishment. Lol. Just kidding. I was honestly expecting the battery to die as soon as I launched and then the drone would land in the pond. I wasn’t sure if the battery would cause a crash or if it would safely allow the drone to fly around. I called it an accessory and sent the original thumbnail to a buddy to give me yay or nay. He said some people may not look at a battery as an accessory hence the “is it really an accessory though” part. Regarding the “hidden” part, the battery was hidden under the word “or” in the thumbnail. Lol. It made sense to me when I made the thumbnail and title but there’s a few of you who have me questioning my intelligence now. Hahaha. You gotta remember I’m not the most creative person. Lol.

[@BlairAir]

Im betting the IMU Calibration worked (said before watching) Aa to batteries, i have no idea what to expect

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol you’re right on the first part. I was with you on the 2nd part, too. Haha

[@davenelson4801]

So does this battery cause the Mini 4 Pro to send RID, or is that just caused by the DJI + battery?

[@WeretheRoberts]

Dave, that’s a great question and I’m going to look into this. I use iPhones so I don’t really have a way to check this out, but I bet I know someone who has an android. Expect an answer in the near future. Lol.

[@comedyhunter]

So with that battery have you gone over the 250g limit ?

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hey man! Yea this plus battery puts the drone over the 250 gram limit. I seriously had no idea I ordered the wrong fly more pack either so I have 3 DJI plus batteries. Lol. At least that mistake worked out so we could compare plus batteries right?

[@Hat_Uncle]

Li-po does not have the high energy output Li-ion does, BUT it also doesn't have the voltage cliff face to deal with at 3.30 volts like Li-ion. I'm willing to bet you can fly it longer, lower voltage, and not drop from the sky or doing damage to the battery. I can usually get down to 16% and have to land with my Plus batteries, Li-po should do 9%? In theory.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Oh wow that’s cool. I didn’t know that. As you can tell, I’m not the most knowledgeable when it comes to this tech stuff. I’m just glad someone else has the smarts so it’s possible for me to play with drones! Haha. Quick question though. Will the flight time increase or decrease with added flights and recharging cycles? I guess I’m referring to a break in period. See? I don’t even know what question I’m asking. Hahaha

[@Hat_Uncle]

@@WeretheRoberts Li-po tends to lose time as you cycle, but maybe(?) 2 seconds every 10 cycles? (200/10)*2=40 seconds a "lifetime". I have limited personal experience but have a ground racer friend who tells me things. LOL

[@WeretheRoberts]

@@Hat_Uncle have you seen my baseball? Hahaha.

[@michaelfuchs1467]

A Lithium-Polymer (LiPo) battery is in fact a lithium-ion battery. The more correct name for it would be 'lithium-ion polymer' battery. The significance here is that the electrolyte exists within in the from of a polymer gel instead of a liquid. The group of battery (often referred to as the 'battery chemistry') is 'Lithium-ion' with LiPo being one of many subtypes.😊 Cheers!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Ok, man. Have you seen my baseball? Lol. Just kidding. Bad attempt at a bad joke I reckon. Haha. All I can say is this tech stuff is out of my wheelhouse but I’m really glad there’s people who understand it and make it possible for someone like me to play with drones.

[@MarioDiaz-co3px]

Swapping a Mini 3 battery into a Mini 4 Pro, a window pops up noticing that the drone is over the 249 gr weight.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Oh that’s cool. I don’t have a mini 3 pro but the batteries we use with our 4 pro are all the plus batteries. I’ve never seen the pop up for the plus batteries come up but it does show that the remote ID is working when they’re in it. Also, unfortunately regarding these aftermarket batteries, DJI has disabled them so we can’t use them anymore. lol. Shocker, eh? A message pops up that says, “Non DJI battery” and it can’t even take off

[@MarioDiaz-co3px]

@@WeretheRoberts Also I bought a battery for the Mini 4 Pro from the DJI store which I was planning to use in the Mini 3 (not pro) again a window came up noticing that the battery was incompatible. Strange !!!

[@WeretheRoberts]

Dang that blows! I may be wrong but I’ve seen in the past that the Mini 3 batteries are compatible with the Mini 4 but not the other way around. Can you return it?

[@wayneharry8696]

Not for me. The difference is minimal and I don't like that you can't update it . (whatever that actually means in the real world). I'd rather pay a little more.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol I get it, Wayne. I’d say there’s definitely more testing to be done with this battery and for an extra $25 you’re guaranteed a DJI quality product, eh? Can’t fault you there, man

[@BlairAir]

Question: is the PowerExtraPro a Plus? So do the make a non Plus Extra Pro? Is it a Pro Minus? Is it Smart? Does itvauto discharge? I have (many) questions. It was 63 seconds less airtime . So about 3% less, on it's first discharge. Puts them VERY CLOSE. If its a LOT cheaper, I might buy a couple as extras. I have 4 plus and 1 standard already.

[@aloeisthestuff9622]

Smart has Nothing to do with compound. It has to do with the micro boards/chips and what they are designed to accomplish.

[@BlairAir]

@@aloeisthestuff9622 no kidd8ng? I am an electronic engineer. I simply asked if they were smart functioning as a value and longevity consideration.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol so many questions! John, do you really think I know any of the answers? Haha. I’ll give it a shot. Yes, this was a plus battery and I was able to compare a DJI plus battery to the Powerextra plus battery so that was cool. I haven’t seen anything listed in their stuff for a regular battery, but that’s not to say it doesn’t exist. As far as the smart feature, I saw a comment where someone mentioned it was not smart and didn’t have the auto discharge function. Also them recommending to not use it for updates is another indication it’s not a smart battery. I saw on DJI website their plus batteries are listed for $95 and this one was on Amazon for $71. I’d say it’s a pretty good deal. I was skeptical at first, hence the title. I was betting as soon as I launched and got over the pond the battery would die and the drone would go in the drink. Lol. I was pleasantly surprised. Thanks for watching as always, John. God bless!

[@fredmunson8603]

Hey Kevin, great test. I think the manufacturer's test their batteries, (flight time) in ideal conditions.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hey, Fred! I bet you’re 100% spot on man. These were pretty good contortions but I bet no where close to their optimal conditions. Lol. Plus, they don’t really say how far down they drain their batteries, do they?

[@DonBrowne]

Kevin, interesting battery comparison. A reminder to fly safe as the recreational flyers must comply with 49 USC 44809 which says, “The aircraft is flown within the visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft or a visual observer co-located and in direct communication with the operator.”

[@WeretheRoberts]

Thanks for watching and for the reminder, Don. God bless!

[@CarryTheTruth]

Which battery is better, Li-On or LiPo? Both lithium-ion and lithium-polymer batteries are suitable for robust and high-power use. Nevertheless, lithium-ion batteries are more effective and prevalent than lithium-polymer batteries. This is because they possess higher power levels making them fitting for massive usage. However, lithium-polymer batteries are safer than lithium-ion batteries due to their robust packaging.

[@WeretheRoberts]

I did a little bit of research on the differences and all I could find was one was liquid and one was gel based. Lol. I may not know much about this stuff but I’m glad someone does. Otherwise I wouldn’t be playing with drones. Haha

[@Inferniooo]

It looks like these batteries are no longer available.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Dang I was afraid of that happening. Several months ago, DJI decided to restrict aftermarket batteries with certain drones like the Mini 4 pro and this battery no longer works with my drone. I’ve tried it with each update since and it still doesn’t work. I contacted the company and gave them a heads up and they were supposed to get back with me with a possible resolution. I guess this was their solution. lol.

[@markwestcott3414]

These are $71.99 only if you have Amazon Prime. Otherwise, $85.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Oh wow, I wasn’t aware of that. We do have a prime membership and I clicked on the link they sent and just assumed that was a sale price. I didn’t know prime gave discounted prices. I thought it was just free shipping deals. Lol. Thanks for the heads up, brother.

[@CarryTheTruth]

You likely do not realize this, but you're forgetting the name of the manufacturer of the battery and have to go and get it and then say the name of the manufacturer, including saying it incorrectly and then correctly, that actually will cause people to remember the manufacturer much more. Unintended Impact Marketing ‼️ 🤣

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol I had no idea! I bet some people use that as a tactic, eh! I just have a bad memory sometimes! Hahaha

[@allenfree8711]

That battery is $85 for that price your better off adding $8 and getting oem

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hey, Allen! Yea you’re definitely right about that. The price I had for the video was a sale price and I think it was for Amazon prime members. I didn’t know that at the time we released the video. I think the battery did really good and was easily comparable to the OEM but one thing I haven’t figured out yet is if it’s an intelligent battery. I haven’t gotten around to looking into that yet but I bet it’s not due to them not wanting it to be used for updates. Anyway, great point and thanks so much for the insight. God bless!!! Kevin

[@Matt_McFaul]

Be careful, Dwight has pushed into 107 weight territory, and the FAA is going after youtubers left and right. Even if it wasnt overweight, your channel is still monetized which, regardless of weight, requires 107 certification.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Thanks for the heads up, Matt. It’s always cool to have people looking out for you, eh? There have been a few comments letting me know different things about the 107 requirements and we definitely appreciate it. Our channel isn’t monetized and although Dwight is over the 250 gram limit, my understanding is we are still good to go. Our channel is for recreational purposes only. I have the drone registered with the FAA as required due to the weight and he emits the RID when flying with the heavy batteries so we’re compliant with that. We do have a call in to an FAA rep trying to get further info about KZbin because of the reviews and possibility of “promoting a business” aspect of things. So far the rep told us we seem to be all good but he’s going to do some more research to give us a complete answer soon. I’ll keep you guys all updated on what they say. You’re 100% right though. We could avoid all this stuff if I’d just get that license. Lol. Thanks for watching, brother and again for the advice. God bless!

[@Matt_McFaul]

@@WeretheRoberts actually, being over 249grams puts you in 107 regardless of commercial or recreational intent. The weight aspect is there because if the damage that the kinetic energy of drone impacts at that weight, can cause.

[@WeretheRoberts]

I guess it may depending on your location. In the US the only requirements if your drone weighs more than 250 grams is to register it with the FAA and put your assigned registration number on the outside of the drone for identification purposes. If your drone weighs more than 55 pounds though you’re in a whole different level and I don’t know the requirements for that. That’ll probably require more than a 107.

[@Poophead1]

​@@Matt_McFaul This is inaccurate. The weight of the drone has no bearing on Part 107 vs flying under the recreational exemption. A person flying a full size Mavic can do so, as long as the intent of the flight is for "recreational" purposes. The registration requirements are based off the weight for recreational pilots. Any drone used for commercial purposes however will require registration & compliance with Remote id.

[@Matt_McFaul]

@@Poophead1 negative, anything over 250 grams now requires a Remote Pilots Certification. Look it up, this question is in the exam. But intent outweighs actual weight, in the event that your intent is to make money with your UAS. Even still, anything under 250 grams still must be registered, and the operator must have a certificate indicating that he has passed the Trust exam.

[@randymorgan-droneovermichigan]

The cool thing about Mondays is a new Kevin Roberts video! Thanks for the congrats! A nice surprise. This video was one of your top 10's. Always fun and informative. As you know, I'm about to purchase a couple of plus batteries in order to be compliant with remote i.d. I wonder if this aftermarket battery will do just that? 🤔 Your channel is by far the best drone channel on KZbin. BTW,... Why didn't you call me about the Harbor Freight bucket deal? 🪣🤡

[@WeretheRoberts]

Hahaha dude, we appreciate you being so excited to see our new video. That’s awesome! Just another manic Monday? Heck no! Lol. Congrats again, brother. Just so you know I opened the study book again. Hmmm. Regarding the plus battery, I’m not sure if these batteries will activate the RID or not. I don’t have an android phone to check either but I may be able to find someone who does and would be willing to help me out. Lol. I do know they’re not a smart battery so there’s a chance it won’t activate the RID. Im gonna look into that for sure. I’ll make you a deal by the way. When you come down to visit, you’ll leave with a harbor freight bucket I promise. Hahaha.

[@randymorgan-droneovermichigan]

😊 yeah man! It won't be long and you'll have one of those shiny silver KZbin plaques behind you! Maybe I can talk the wife into a Fla. trip. Let me know if I can help you, with your studies! They say an hour a day study time for 2 weeks, and you'll be good to go. Get'er done!

[@WeretheRoberts]

@@randymorgan-droneovermichiganheck yea!