DJI NEO - DJI FLY UPDATE | THIS IS A PROBLEM!

[@DMProductions]

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[@MrGazzaFreeman]

Are you able to mail the cheat sheets to Australia?

[@juanmabalasikloft2212]

my problem with the DJI Neo is when i try add it on the cart it says im low in budget 😢

[@technickr]

She only gets 30m max from you, therefor you don't need rth, do you? 5m + in the right direction and your signal is back.

[@MrPlaneTalk]

Great warning. Good to know. Since it does have GPS, one would think DJI would have the RTH no matter what mode you’re flying in. My guess is they’ll add it…thanks to you pointing this out. Great job Darren.

[@DMProductions]

Hope they do, it certainly would help ☺️

[@leadsled213]

I wonder if DJI could make it where it just returns to the subject that it is tracking in autonomous or app only mode.

[@blackchiney86]

Excellent video. Thanks for including risk and tips of what to look out for before buying.

[@ricarmig]

You’re completely right!!! Without RTH I won’t buy one for sure! With my previous Air, I had many situations where the RTH saved the drone and me! If I’m filming a beach and I lose contact, bye bye drone. Or above a car… bye bye insurance

[@cassielakin]

i got this drone for close up fun and just playing with my phone. will keep an eye on the battery level. anything far i will stick with my mini 4k.

[@Bada_Boom78]

Exactly

[@Bada_Boom78]

Good video. Basically, know its limits with whatever “controller” you’re using and how far you’re going. As it is with the phone, it’s not made to do what a mini can. That said, for the money, it still seems like a good buy.

[@Sir-Kay]

It's amazing you haven't got to review the much anticipated Hover Air Pro/Pro max, not even a single word about it.

[@IMRROcom]

I asked that same question, and all I got was comments like you need to learn to fly better etc. Sorry, the object of NEO is to palm it, hit the mode button, let it do it's thing and come back. How do you wave it in an extra foot if it is 2 foot further out over a cliff or 2 foot off the end of a pier over water etc. They should have some sort of hand jester that it looks for to come back to your, like waiving your hands above your head like an inflatable mad man at a used car lot etc. Or let you yell oat it etc.

[@bra1nc417d]

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[@Xenoose7041]

What do you expect for thr price 199?

[@cipri198zero]

It does say on the manual do not fly over cliffs, drops, water etc. at least not when it flies on its own.

[@dereksmith9448]

You the best, always telling what’s great and what needs improving. This is why you the best

[@DMProductions]

🙏

[@RonaldBrown59]

This is something to keep in mind with the Neo. Thanks for sharing.

[@bobclifford8173]

Just a thought ! All real fpv quads do not have return to home, this is a cheap fantastic value quad, I do own one and absolutely love it ..mostly in fpv mode with my avata2 gear … the neo is my everyday go to quad. Cheap fun 😊👏

[@thedronebully2220]

You are better off having the app ready to stop then use virt sticks in manual to bring it back or just check the area properly and settings, happened to me last week but I thought a head :-)

[@SMP248]

Just wondering really if it would be better getting the Mini 2 SE, not much in it £ for £ but a lot better drone.

[@suaikx]

We can use Remote Control like RC-N3 to reconnect and pull it back.

[@BadwolfFPV]

It should remember the gps location when taking off from your palm and return to that spot if contol signal is lost, would be suitable for any location except a boat.

[@renebeier]

Is it possible to start flying with the app, then do a take over with the controller mid flight?

[@eganders1]

If RTH is available with the controller, what if you set the RTH up with it AND shouldn't it be able to RTH in all control modes after it is set up on the controller? I say that because the Neo has the RTH imbedded in it (it Returns to Home if signal is lost with the controller -- saying it has the RTH embedded in the drone firmware)

[@ernieschatz3783]

That would be an interesting experiment that shouldn't be hard to accomplish if, you have a compatible controller. My guess is the NEO askes the controller for configuration every time it powers up. I that config differs from its default, it will change until it powers up again, and the phone app tells it nothing, so it defaults to landing in place. There's gotta be at least one person in here that has a controller and can try this. Hint, hint.

[@colinpalmer9070]

Agree. Just had a fly away after a dronie off of my roof terrace. Did get it back undamaged but glad I bought the care package. It does seem to be easilly confused and loses its RTH position in autonomous mode which is very risky.

[@mssippijim]

Isn't there an internal setting in the drone to tell it to RTH on signal loss? Should work regardless of controller I would think.

[@ArtComputer123]

Hi, do you think that the fly away is covered by a dji care refresh if you fly without the RC ? I guess, there is no log when flying with the phone or directly with the drone panel !

[@AndyTEire1]

Yep.... I lost my Neo 2 days after purchase. Lost signal and auto landed into the sea 10 feet in front of me. Great drone but controlerless flight needs care.

[@gekoldronevideos]

Darren, Thanks for this and all your informative video's about the Neo. I hope you can make some nice Luts for the Neo soon that can be bought. I use some of your Luts for the Mini 4 Pro and Air 3 for nearly all my dronevideo's. Greetings from 🇳🇱

[@don-xl]

@DMProductions I was halfway through this video, and when you had mentioned the lack of Return To Home (RTH), I immediately went to DJI's website. Then I saw they specified that RTH was available. I was like what the...??!! But then, when you mentioned the controller compatibility, and then you mentioned that RTH is available through the compatible controller, I was then like OK 😅 Since I have compatible controllers that have OS4, I'm seriously considering getting the Neo. The main thing I can see myself getting it for is for those really tight spaces, and maybe for close follows. But as always, thanks for a complete review and coverage of the DJI Fly update 👍🏾

[@DMProductions]

Neo sure is a lot of fun and I’m sure this could be added into firmware to have some kind of return to user or similar

[@don-xl]

@@DMProductions That's great to hear how fun it is!! Yes, I agree, firmware update will probably include the return feature. Looks like DJI was trying to get the Neo out to market quickly, so now I don't know if you've heard or seen, but they're making an announcement about Pro on Thursday. Most are speculating Action 5 Pro, but I think it may be that and a whole Pro series lineup. We'll see! 😁

[@droneflyernick]

I had the same thing happen to me while flying in FPV normal mode. The drone got to 14% and there was no more power, so it landed itself right then and there, thankfully it was in my front yard 5meters away from me and not over water. Tip to the wise, when you hit 20% come home.

[@radamesortiz4499]

Excelente vídeo as always. Great to know about these issues. I ordered my the day that was launched here in US. I hope that they fix these problems before I get it delivered.

[@jamdungdrones2424]

wholeheartedly agree with all the points you put forward. Excellent Analysis

[@DMProductions]

Thank you 🙏

[@wintexwelltex4305]

Buying a controller will undermine the $199 advantage. Another PROBLEM question. Some youtubers mentioned it had serious problem with flying backwards in direction track mode (cam facing you, you moving forward but drone moving backward). It loses track of you somehow, sometimes. Do you find it to be a serious problem? Thanks in advance!

[@darrenhurrell]

Any problems while flying over the sea? I’ve brought mine to Antigua and been seeing all the posts about do not fly over water, it even says it in the manual apparently.

[@obsidiansands]

The RTH absent on the phone app is worrying, one hopes that they can fix that with a firmware update either on the app or in the drone's AI itself. From what I can see, the only way to "manually" trigger a RTH facsimile is to hold up your hand to the drone and it will fly itself back to you as long as you keep in mind the actual flight time so as to be on top of the battery drain.

[@johnirvine5514]

Thanks for flagging these warnings and giving your good recommendations. I’m finding that I cannot take photos in 4:3 when using manual control in the phone app. Even though the settings in the phone app are set to 4:3, the resulting photos are 16:9. When I use a controller (NC3 or RC2), I can set the ratio as 4:3 and that is what the resulting photos are; but whenever I go back to manual control on the phone the photos are in 16:9 (which also means they are 9 megapixels, not 12). Have you found that, or am I making some kind of mistake? Thanks again. UPDATE: Please ignore all of the above! The Fly app has been updated this morning and the glitch has been removed. For clarity, using the Neo with only my iPhone and the app on Manual mode, setting photos to 4:3 now does produce 12 megapixel 4:3 images.

[@terryneilbooth]

Great points and practical advice 👍 That said, the Neo should only be used as intended and keep it close and have fun. Think there will some firmware updates soon and the next version is going to be very interesting. At the price, I might just get one to keep in my car and certainly for those quick shots with family and friends👍👍

[@Amberdogproductions]

I wondered about this. Thank you! Still waiting on mine to arrive. Here in the Dtates, our fly more combo does not include the remote.

[@eastcoast-UK]

I bought the fly more combo but use it with the RC2 controller, Must admit it was 15 MPH wind and flying out of the hand using the modes built in drone really struggled to function, but on a fly using controller it performed much better I found of course not that quick as my Air 3 but still pleased

[@DigiDriftZone]

I'm waiting for the Neo Pro with DLOGM and a bit more power :) - this gives me flashbacks to my old DJI Spark.

[@DMProductions]

I need that drone too 😂

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

I loved my DJI spark, such an advanced drone for its time, way ahead of its time. The only downsides of it were the relatively low video quality( still a very good video for its time), and the limited range as far as distance. I ended up getting the parabolic reflectors to enhance the distance and that works well as long as you have the antennas pointed in the right direction).

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@DavidReynolds-kr6yh me too!! I ended up flying it around the Eiffel Tower which was wild. With the FCC hack I would get 1.5km with the parabolics which was insane at the time for the size.

[@jaynus08]

That's why it's a matter of choice to use the phone as the controller or use the controller that comes with the FlyMore combo.

[@ExploringWithKev]

Got my Neo great little drone just hope they release a pro vision 😁

[@antj29]

I bought the drone only one, ended up ordering the fly more version as realised I needed the controller and the extra batteries. Ironically I’m off to Switzerland tomorrow for a driving trip and will be up a mountain with it, originally I thought the mobile would be enough but soon realised it was not

[@jngois]

Happened to me yesterday. I was flying low on " Follow me" standalone without the app and the low battery alarm went off and in a matter of second it just started moving around on it's own, so it was about head high but it started to drift. I was able to run to it and put my palm below it so it landed, I was not using the phone. Better to stop using once the battery alarm goes off and immediately put your palm under it when flying the drone with palm control only.

[@BIGPAPAFOOT]

Great video, brother! I picked up the DJI pocket 3 yesterday, I can't wait to unbox it. It truly looks like an amazing pocket cam......AND I grabbed the neo off your recommendation. I am so excited for it to arrive on September 30 here in the 🇺🇸. Hope your night is going well, my friend.

[@DMProductions]

Hope you get it soon! It’s a lot of fun

[@_gelon]

It's really not that risky. Mobile App Control reaches 50 meters BEST case scenario. In fact, it has worse signal than the Tello, that had two WiFi antennas for the task. So you wouldn't fly it really far. And you still have the option to search for it in the map or make sound/light signals from the Neo, both in the Profiles screen. It's almost impossible to lose it, unless you are flying in a cliff or over the water, which is, yeah, not a great idea.

[@pishedbloke]

Been using mine for a week now on flat dry land. I didn't get the fly more combo, just the drone and 1 battery, and I had the exact same concerns you just mentioned. If I were to do a Dronie from a bridge or cliff for example, I think it would be a good idea to actually stand a few meters away from the edge during start up, just so I know I can reach out my hand safely to land the drone when it gets back.

[@Chia288]

Yeah or else something uncertainty might happen

[@ianmott856]

Im looking into getting my first drone and like the Neo, especially the price ....BUT the mini series offer more features . What would you go for as a first drone . Mini 2 , 3 ( pro) or start with the neo . I cant make my mind up as having a FOMO and dont to be left wanting more within 6 months . Decisions decisions??

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

I’d go for the neo first, but only because of its price, then go for the mini 4 with its controller. The controller makes it even better, but of course it does require practise to get its full potential out.

[@relaxingnature2617]

Mini 2se is very good price now

[@nicholas2057]

You should tell people why that’s the case. If you were flying with no controller, then you have a Wi-Fi connection between the drone and your phone. With a controller you are connected to the GPS signal like other drones from DJI. If you leave your house, your Wi-Fi disconnects at the end of your driveway usually. Same thing with your drone. Keep it close.

[@banuafamily9026]

FINALLY an honest review Thank you for this

[@victor-carrasco]

Great video! I think the problem is the mobile phone mode. Cause the GPS is not working and the WIFI signal actually don't let do make RTH, so I have no hope they solve this issue.

[@julianmclean3869]

Many thanks for sharing; I just purchased the Neo and (on the Fly App for my phone) couldn't find any RTH setting which was a worry!; main concern for me is noise this makes; might be a tiny Drone and hard to see however attracts to much attention!; maybe they will introduce some low noise props!

[@Awaisified]

Something very unusual happened with me when I was flying my DJI NEO. My connection to the Drone got lost even I was using a RC and the drone fell without any control maybe trying to get to RTH but it was insane. It fell on a building I suppose I could only find its battery on the ground. This was very strang experience and I may make a video about it soon.

[@fredlacroix6865]

RTH is a must..even for wifi using a phone

[@AirplaneMan10]

Great Video Mate Well done keep up these amazing videos

[@DMProductions]

Thanks a ton! ☺️

[@weedaviec]

I had a MIni 2 with no issues for 2 years- never claimed my Refresh- never crashed it. I'm not paying £20 for a replacement Neo if it will cost me half the cost of a new one.

[@GarrettShaw1]

I wonder if it handles different with a controller vs the phone.

[@MrPlaneTalk]

Another problem: GEOfencing issues!

[@mssippijim]

This is not as much of a problem if you consider it will not really fly very far away on the phone. Don't fly it far away, and above all, don't fly it behind anything. Agreed though, it should return home if it loses contact for more than a minute or so. This should be an easy firmware fix.

[@leadsled213]

I saw someone mention Return to Subject... They didn't demo it. Only said something about standing still for three seconds. Would that work if you lost WiFi connection?

[@dubinatub1]

Just got mine,do you know if the DJI mic can record audio with the neo

[@3dmotormaker]

Can you use goggles 3 and rc2 with the neo ?

[@kaush23]

Can you fly the Neo around other people while it's in follow mode without a controller? I'm concerned about what happens if the drone mistakes someone else for you. I'd like to know if this is possible in areas where you're not alone, and what happens if it starts following another person. Maybe you could test it once with the drone connected to your phone and again in a similar setting without the phone connection.

[@DMProductions]

It’s very good at locking onto you and the facial tracking is awesome so it shouldn’t switch

[@gatway100]

did you update that the release for the DJI meal that supposedly fix that because they knew that and now you can use all the controllers so they should add a return to home function when you're using a Wi-Fi a disconnection so it should come home if the Wi-Fi is still there be sure there'll be many more updates for this drone

[@maggiecrysler]

if you set sharpness on the remote and later you fly neo by it self (no controller) does the sharpness stay -2 or resets?

[@uptowndisco2]

it resets back to standard sharpness .

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Mine got blown over twice by blustery 20mph winds, obviously it just switched off and fell. Its so light Im sure it could survive several hundred feet falls onto grass, Im waiting to see its freefall speed.

[@cipri198zero]

Its on Dji Neo manual, not to fly over water, drops etc I guess thats why when you fly it with the phone they give us the warnings

[@c0mpuipf]

in europe the combo is 350 whereas the almost barebone drone is 200 eur; For those 150 eur extra you get 2 more batteries and a controller; (if you get a single battery you pay 40 eur) so not a bad deal to go for the bundle. The backward compatibility is pitiful cause i have the avata and my goggles / fpv remote controller 2 aren't compatible; DJI please fix

[@AJ-77]

All the old users needs an RC N1 compatibility update for buy the Neo.

[@perazdera5639]

Hi. I have two question for these drone. First. If you use controller does he have option back home if lost signal? And second question. I have one extra controller from my crashed Mini 2. Can I use him for these drone?

[@robknight9406]

1st question yes, RTH is only available using a controller. 2nd question no, you need the new controller. Even the controller from the Avata won’t work though it looks identical. It’s a new transmission system. Don’t waste your $

[@perazdera5639]

@@robknight9406 thanks man

[@robknight9406]

@@perazdera5639 pssst find out what express LRS is Radiomaster is a good step 1, the TX16 is mint

[@dbh1tubes]

I went out this morning - it was 6 degrees and it refused to fly saying it was too cold!

[@Bada_Boom78]

Brrrr🥶

[@paulgolden8183]

Warm the battery in your pocket 👍

[@drdavetexas]

Sounds like a miserable place to live

[@ianjames3078]

Frost here this morning…..if the same tomorrow I’ll take my Neo out.

[@bra1nc417d]

@@paulgolden8183 *Hand* you meant. That pocket wont do shit, in the cold lol

[@IanTed]

I bought a stand alone unit, mistake, so I’ve had to shell out for extra batteries and RC to give me full control, there are risks given its simplicity. I’m new to drones so it’s a steep learning curve…

[@Larsema1]

Buy a kit and keep the stand alone unit as a spare. Then you will also have four batteries. I bought a kit and concider buying a stand alone as a spare, and for the extra battery.

[@oldretireddude]

I appreciate you pointing out the fringe usage cases so that we can avoid them but I don't think it becomes something that necessarily needs to be fixed. There are other drones that are more fit for purpose in these fringe cases. And hey, if you lose it you're only out $200 (and guilty of adding to the world's trash problem 😂)

[@Larsema1]

Maby they can make a menu option so you can chose if you want to use this feature thats already in the drone. Then everybody that dont want RTH can leave it deactivated.

[@oldretireddude]

@@Larsema1 I'm not sure why anyone would "not" want that function if available. I'm just saying it's not a deal breaker for me on a $200 drone.

[@Larsema1]

​@@oldretireddudeif you mostly start this drone without the remote to follow you from point a to point b, then it would be a problem if the drone suddenly wants to go back to point a. Maby thats why they deactivate RTH when start without remote. The function is already in the drone so the price for the drone is not relevant. If they had to develop the code I might agree with you. If I had to choose a drone to inactivate RTH I would choose the Neo 😊

[@oldretireddude]

@@Larsema1 👍

[@oscr_zen]

wait, why tho? it has gps right? why won't it come back to the home spot, I dont get it. Its supposed to work without controllers so it comes back to your palm, so it does rth kinda

[@nextai83]

Is it possible to use USB WIFI range extenders like use for DJI Tello?

[@FlyingFun.]

Rth should just be as standard on every means of control, wth were they thinking? If it's a case of needing sat lock before flying and doing this to save start up time I get it, but we have a phone in our hand with sat position so just use those coordinates for rth, that would be better anyway. I heard the explanation that rth might cause the drone to crash into stuff where as if it just stays put you can go back and get it , so why not give an option to choose which you want depending on where you are flying ?

[@JasperEllens]

RC 2 freezes after update too. Let's just say the firmware updates need to keep coming

[@droniecze1873]

Super video as very valuable and hopefully RTH will be implemented. My first Neo drowned on Saturday and today arrived finally DJI Care and Flyaway replacement but for 90€ 💸 but still dji Care make sence...

[@DMProductions]

Oh no! Hope you have better luck with the new one !

[@fanom1]

I do not see the issue..you should still be able to see the drone...The Neo is a drone...the Mini4 Pro is a drone...The Citroen 2cv is a car..the Ferrari Dino is also a car...BUT they are very different...the pilot / driver needs to be aware of the differences between and act accordingly...and not expect the two to perform the same way.

[@Mark-j9x5w]

why is there a square around you in the youtube footage?

[@WillofDion]

it's good if you're a beginner and you're not s2pd 👌

[@GenXJefferson]

Great video!!

[@amirsafari7140]

Can you do a comparison between dju mini and neo? They are almost same price

[@PopTheFrunk]

Thanks so much for disclosing this info!

[@andreiter]

I wish I could install a lut right into the drone, then turn it on/off with my controller, like I do when I record video on my iPhone

[@pete2109]

Wise words 👌👍

[@ShermanKenB]

Doesn't really sound like a big deal if your flying real close by.

[@DMProductions]

True, I was flying close by to me in the examples but I know a lot won’t

[@hellohogo]

Dangerous is a HUGE leap.

[@abumte4797]

My dji neo update firmware The video quality is dark at night under the lights in the house, before the update it's fine, why?

[@WhattaFook]

Thank god, I never fly drones without controller. Never tried with my spark, my tello and won't try with my neo.

[@scb2scb2]

Its unclear to me why they don't use the gps and rth in palm and phone control mode really seems a selling point vs the x1. I guess it might delay a few people since it has to wait until it states (guess in voice) 'ready to fly' and 'updated home point' before allowing you to start a action. Any idea/reason you can see why they build in a gps etc etc but don't use it in its basic mode of use ?

[@Twobarpsi]

Great info!!

[@duncangrixti181]

Can the neo track you while in a car? Or maybe can it track a car?

[@Larsema1]

Probably, but not over 20 km/h

[@DMProductions]

From my testing it doesn’t track vehicles

[@charlesdove1345]

You the best

[@fj1100mark]

I would’ve thought that flying using the buttons on the drone which means you don’t need to use the controller or phone it couldn’t lose signal because there is no signal everything is automated

[@Ringo5000]

This was mainly designed to be a selfie drone. Not for high altitude. And its super cheap, so dont be so *dramatic*. No RTH is not a HUGE safety risk. Its disappointing without it, but come on. Ive been flying DJI drones since the Phantom 1. There was no RTH for many years. We did fine without it. Again, RTH is a great feature, but hardly a HUGE safety risk without it.

[@travelwithjohkwatro351]

Can you do a video how it real the range test via phone wifi

[@obscurazone]

Aside from the fact the ability to "fly back home" clearly IS possible (with controller) and they have blatantly and deliberately denied this feature on the phone app in order to sell more controllers, I find it ludicrous that a drone whose M.O is to basically follow you everywhere, isn't designed to always lock onto your position and NEVER go out of range. It's such a basic design issue, I can't believe they didn't think about it. All they need to do, is program it to override the set commands when it is within a couple of metres of going out of range, and nudge itself back into range, automatically! I shouldn't have to constantly be worried about things like "maximum" distance or altitudes - it should be forever adjusting and limiting itself automatically to ALWAYS be in range. In other words, keep up with me. Regarding WiFi signal drops - again, clearly there is the capacity to extend this along with range, but ONLY it you spend more and buy a controller from them. I don't object to buying additional kit to boost the WiFi - much like I can by router extension hubs for the house, but what if I don't want to use anything other than my phone and have no need for an additional controller other than signal boost? Surely, just sell me a little wifi signal boosting dongle thing that I can wear on my wrist like a watch, that then increases my range and also acts as a "fly to home" hub (if that MUST be a dedicated feature outside the app. - I don't understand why, but whatever). As a product designer myself, it really hacks me off to see products like this - fantastic in so many respects, come to market with such obviously baked in flaws, deliberately designed in such a way to simply cash grab and force you to buy more, simply in order to bring what should be standard features. When a drone hits 5% battery, or is within 10% of reaching max range, it should automatically scoot home to me/designated spot IMMEDIATELY. I shouldn't have to tell it.

[@RasiAdventures]

I also think that DJI needs to take action. For me, it's a contradiction to bring a selfie drone onto the market and then need a controller to gain full control over the drone. I think the drone must always return to the home point by itself as soon as it's necessary.

[@bazphoon1]

Lost mine yesterday in river FML on a circle ⭕️ return 7 days old

[@GarrettShaw1]

I just saw a video of a range test and it has RTH. The drone turned around about 50% of battery left.

[@grumpygrandpa3640]

Nice little cheeky link to your products for sale 😂😂. Don’t worry it’s winter now they hate the cold mine won’t even fly now it states too cold to fly 🥶😂

[@kbteam1710]

Can’t seem to upload images videos

[@om_Sed]

How to control camera lens position (like in the RC) with the phone apps?

[@ArturMaiaCarvalho]

My Neo has stopped flying! I took a flight! Then it kept asking me to calibrate the IMU and it never worked again! I will return it!

[@uptowndisco2]

have you tried doing what it says ?

[@ArturMaiaCarvalho]

@@uptowndisco2 yes. 24 times!

[@MakeEverydayAJourney]

Will the mini 3 controller with the built in screen work with the neo?

[@Larsema1]

No, only controllers using O4, like the Mini 4.

[@MakeEverydayAJourney]

@@Larsema1 dang it

[@MotorDanko]

well, do not fly it away on a mountain if you are on a phone.