After reading some of these comments I have come to the conclusion that some people lack football knowledge and get theirs from TikTok
@theinterestedone10453 ай бұрын
And most of them think Messi rigged the ballon dors. Like, how can you rig a ballon dor?????
@homicide_rsa3 ай бұрын
Finally people talking some sense Ronaldo fans and all the excuses they come up with is becoming sad to see , seriously they can't accept reality now
@muluabate40443 ай бұрын
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@randyzoo89444 ай бұрын
Messi and CR7 had godly performances for more than ten seasons. When you think about how Michael Owen, Pavel Nedved and Shevchenko won their ballon d'or, it's safe to say that both Messi and CR7 deserved 10 ballon d'or or more in their careers. Unfortunately, they were playing against each other. So if you wanna make peace with reality and yourself, just consider all the "undeserved ballon d'ors" like a ballon d'or they should've won in another year. We're talking about two players who scored more than 800 goals and provided more than 250 assists in their careers, averaged 50 goals and 10 assists a season for 10 years, contributed to more than 1000 goals in 20 years and are still playing at the age of 37 and 39. HOW DO YOU REWARD THAT? With a ballon d'or? 10 ballon d'or will never be enough yet alone less than 10.
@idkwhat2u47264 ай бұрын
super ballon d'or
@randyzoo89444 ай бұрын
@@idkwhat2u4726 Or maybe a diamond ball. 😆
@Saint_MaX_ONeal_B_Rul4 ай бұрын
Fact
@paulonvula64954 ай бұрын
You got a point fella! Their careers deserve more
@Raiz_Editz4 ай бұрын
I'm not reading allat
@LorexDaGoat4 ай бұрын
You can say that 2010 and 2019 Iniesta and VVD deserved it but you cant really say that Messi didnt
@edsonnokanogueira80124 ай бұрын
Xavi over iniesta, that final goal really brought iniesta in the conversation
@LorexDaGoat4 ай бұрын
@@edsonnokanogueira8012 Xavi or Iniesta is detail for me
@linathincwana46654 ай бұрын
Of course you can say Messi didn't deserve it in 2010. They gave it to Messi due to his name.
@AbedCruz4 ай бұрын
@@edsonnokanogueira8012 You really watched football in 2010. Individually, Iniesta had one of his worst seasons in his all career because of injuries and low influence. He had a very good world cup campaign but Xavi was way better when it comes to the entire year of 2010.
@LorexDaGoat4 ай бұрын
@@BLACKSTA361 2014 neuer
@Epic_NM124 ай бұрын
Lets just end conversation here Yall did not want haaland to win Yall just wanted Messi to lose😭🙏
@LordByron2493 ай бұрын
Yo what’s up with these NPCs and their crying emojis? Everything good at home?
@khosta66903 ай бұрын
Nah, Messi played in ligue 1
@Epic_NM123 ай бұрын
@@LordByron249 what's wrong?
@ΙΩΑΝΝΗΣΚΑΡΑΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ-η9π3 ай бұрын
@@Epic_NM12 he probably thinks everything outside of premier league is bad and no matter what a player does elsewhere should not be credited very much.. I have even heard from those guys that even la liga is a farmers league.. so don't look for logic..
@anaemiafn3 ай бұрын
i wanted mbappe to win he actually had such an underrated season and he also did amazing in the world cup too
@physicssolved5 ай бұрын
Messi is never about the stats, although he has the best stats. The way he plays is an art in itself.
@Xolaress5 ай бұрын
not all of them are the best but yes
@MayamiDeoobajaja4 ай бұрын
Fr Higher goal per game ratio, more freekicks scored, more outside the box goals, more assists, more nonpenalty goals, more non penalty hattricks, more MOTM, more individual awards, more trophies What more stats could you possibly want from a player?🐐
@Xolaress4 ай бұрын
@@MayamiDeoobajaja most non penalty goals is ronaldo i thought? or am i trippin
@idkwhat2u47264 ай бұрын
@@Xolaress no i think messi has more
@ofvisionhyper4 ай бұрын
for that give him the deserving 5 balon dors , 3 of them are robbed
@nasilelelisselo23484 ай бұрын
The magazine need to give a Lewandoski his 2020 Ballon D'or
@Andrew370876 ай бұрын
He deserves 2019 more than you can imagine . The ballon dor is an individual award,not a collective one . And Messi’s 18/19 season os perhaps the best individual season of all time : the only time a footballer ever won the playmaker award and the golden boot in the same season ,5 10/10 ratings in the ucl , brought a DEAD barca the la liga title with 36 goals in 34 marches in la liga and lost the cdr final but was motm. If Messi 2019 had VVD’s team , he would’ve won the sextuple+the Copa America
@ahadullahalimi93325 ай бұрын
Messi has car to many controversial ballon dors: 2010: obviously sneijder, u can’t say anything against that since if Messi’s copa America In 2019 was valid: then how big was the WC? 2012: 91 goals but Messi was still not performing, it’s the same as haaland argument: Messi didn’t perform when it really mattered and majority of those stats where actually friendlies and not against top clubs. Wining the ballon dor is not just about stats, it’s about how you perform both individually but also as a player 2015: good season for Messi; but still, he was goasted for the majority of the UCL, Neymar and Suarez had better stats and played a bigger role in the final. + Neymar also won an international trophy with Brazil for the first time: by applying the same logic: Neymar accomplished more since he won more and also played a more key role. 2019: don’t really need to explain: 2019 was a very unstable season: especially in the lalliga: Ronaldo just left and Real Madrid were at their most weakest state, they were garbage: even at that rate: Messi still couldn’t win the copa del Rey, he won the lalliga, And keep in mind that the copa America is not even a classified tournament 2021: lewandowski: lost the final in the UCL and had most of the stats that season: he already has cola Uber it so it doesn’t matter 2023: is by far the most rigged one, Never in a million years has a county won the WC by 5 penalties in every game. The entire World Cup campaign was controversial, All from referee decisions etc. Messi’s 2nd goal on the WC final should have been removed according to rules: but fifa changed it for pessi. And of course: Messi played horrible in the French league: mbappe was better then Messi in the WC and even in the French league. Mbappe scores more goals, had more GA and played a bigger role for France than Messi: Messi was saved by Martinez and di Maria: Mbapoe literally scored a hat trick and should have won that WC had fifa been fair And teg re you have it. There are far more reasons for the following years to
@Andrew370875 ай бұрын
@@ahadullahalimi9332 2010 sneijder played as a forward but has 8 goals and 14 assists ,for instance Lamine Yamal (16yo) has 9 goals and 14 assists 😭 Sneijder had a good year but not Close to Messi’s , Messi had one of the best calendar years ever in 2010,watch his performances ,and statistically it’s far more than deserved
@Andrew370875 ай бұрын
@@ahadullahalimi9332 2012 is a joke.Saying that those stats are in friendlies is a straight lie,considering that only 7 goals of his are from friendlies , and Messi 2012 has 9 G/a against real Madrid which is most ever a player had against a club in a c year,and has much better stats against top 3 than Cristiano 2013 for example , and many other players. And Messi 2012 also has 16 world records and actually performed vs big teams individually,but if you look at what Ronaldo fans say you will obviously be biased . You can’t have 113 G/a ,91 goals whilst being 3RD for playmaker award,1 Trophy, the best statistical year in football +Great performances vs teams like real Madrid ,Atletico and not win the ballon dor 😭
@Andrew370875 ай бұрын
@@ahadullahalimi9332 2015 first of all,what Trophy did neymar win with Brazil😭 neymar did nothing for Brazil in 2015 and saying that Messi ghosted in the ucl with 10 goals ,6 assists and 16 chances created ,highest rating in final,semifinal,quarterfinal,ro16 and group stages is pure delusion Some could argue that Messi 14/15 is the greatest peak of all time , Messi’s 2015 ballon dor is not debatable at all
@Andrew370875 ай бұрын
@@ahadullahalimi9332 the Copa America is one of the hardest tournaments ever , and Messi didn’t win the Copa Del Rey because he had a mediocre team to work with ,he scored and was the man of the match in the final,but his teamnates couldn’t do anything to help him 2019 is not debatable at all
@binbinjiang38615 ай бұрын
Iniesta was injured half season in 2010
@binbinjiang38615 ай бұрын
And 2019 version of Messi is too complete to not consider it a ballon d'or deserver. Yo have said it, he almost carried a fucking treble, despite van dijk having prolly the best prime of a center back ever Messi clearly wins. Don't forget that ballon d'or is an individual award, liverpool won champions thanks to many players and the trainer, Messi played practically alone at that barca and managed to hurt that liverpool
@Jamalito1114 ай бұрын
@@binbinjiang3861Like he said the ballon d’or is about individual performance and team success. And, Messi almost doing something doesn’t mean he deserves anything. Him almost carrying his team to the finals won’t get him a ballon d’or, but it somehow did. The ballon d’or shouldn’t be about sympathy, it should be fqir and deserved.
@binbinjiang38614 ай бұрын
@@Jamalito111 For me the main point is the individual performance above the titles won, if the ballon d'or counts also the titles then van dikj should win. But I'll defend always this version of Messi cuz i consider it as the third best prime of football ever, behind Maradona's 1986(im not sure about the exact year) and Messi 2015
@MihailParshin4 ай бұрын
And Messi is injured almost half season everytime since WC ended. But that didn't stop them from giving him the award last year, did it? Haaland had more goals/assists than Messi had number of matches played, but somehow multiple penalties in a single WC were enough to make him win everything 2 years in a row. Stop idolising other people. Nobody is perfect or God/Goat ot whatever they are called. Messi defenetly didn't deserved almost any individual award last like about 5 years. Yes, he is still good, but nowhere near 'the best'. Neither in his position, neither overall.
@binbinjiang38614 ай бұрын
@@MihailParshin First of all, I think that a World Cup is worth more than a treble, and Messi won that world cup giving a masterclass that can not be summarized as taking penalties. Lets start from round of 16 against Holland, he scores a penalty that i think shouldn't be but according to FIFA rules it is, so there is no discussion, then he do one of the best assist ever in world cups, against Croatia he humiliated Gvardiol and scores his penalty, in the final he scores again his penalty (France had 2) and another goal, the one from the penalty round too. In the other hand Haaland scored many goals but disappeared at important matches. I honestly think that a world cup of the magnitude that Messi did is more deserving that a treble where Haaland is important but at the end of the day he has the role of pushing balls, he can't win games alone unlike messi. To finish, I agree that Messi is no more what he used to be, although he could still be an elite midfielder(not forward anymore), and 2023 ballon d'or is deservedly the last Ballon d'Or of his career.
@AdityaGupta-ox1gb4 ай бұрын
it always amazes me that people have the debate over messi ballon d'or but no one says a thing about ronaldo's awards. He won in 2013 without winning a single trophy, the only player ever who won a balon dor without a trophy, in 2014 he won when neuer should've won by the same logic as 2019, neuer did everything a keeper could've done and he won a world cup. Even in 2016 he was not even in euro team of the season and he was on the bench when his team won but again the balon dor was awarded to him.
@ScrapSupplyCraftsOfficialАй бұрын
Facts
@flo5452Ай бұрын
In 2012-2013 indeed Real Madrid did not win major trophies, but Cristiano had a fantastic season in Champions League. In that year Messi was a ghost, Barcelona lost 7-0 to Bayern in semifinals. Next season, Real Madrid won the Champions League and Cristiano scored 17 that campaign. Last but not least, in 2018 he won Euros with Portugal which in 2004 participated for the 3rd time in their little history compared to Argentina. He was not benched, he got injured in the final. The reality is that you look at Messi and see talent (like Mozart who was a genius by age 5). It is understandable why people prefer Cristiano, which is like an ordinary musician that managed to be there on top with Mozart. This is a simple analogy. Stop hating, both are the greatest of the great. And is obvious that is harder to be Cristiano, which had a lot of adversity and propaganda aimed towards him (including FIFA). Is just harder to be in his shoes, and if you cannot see and acknowledge that, sorry but you're brainwashed.
@zikriyakhan2098Ай бұрын
@@flo5452 In that year Messi was injured. He didn't ghost for shit. If he didn't get injured he would've scored 100 goals in a season and would've embarrassed your idol.
@Goldsthar4 ай бұрын
Yes, because people voted for him. It's not about deserving it, it's about who people think is the best in the world.
@jacobomizrahi72154 ай бұрын
He deserves 2019 more than you can imagine . The ballon dor is an individual award,not a collective one . And Messi’s 18/19 season os perhaps the best individual season of all time : the only time a footballer ever won the playmaker award and the golden boot in the same season ,5 10/10 ratings in the ucl , brought a DEAD barca the la liga title with 36 goals in 34 marches in la liga and lost the cdr final but was motm. If Messi 2019 had VVD’s team , he would’ve won the sextuple+the Copa America
@Goldsthar4 ай бұрын
@@jacobomizrahi7215 Messi's true prime for sure
@fcb.4life66 Жыл бұрын
iniesta never should have won the 2010 one over messi bc he was not barcas best player as he was injured for a bit and he wasnt spains best player either messi should arguably even have 9 bc the 2018 one he was the best in the world in terms of individual and stats but he placed 5th cuz of the world cup year and his side wasnt great so the arguments are pointless he deserved every single one possible even an extra one the 2021 ballon dor is a forced narrative by salty fans who just didnt want messi to win lewa 1000000% deserved the 2020 ballon dor no question but the 2021 ballon dor messi was the better footballer i agree with the fact they should have handed the 2020 ballon dor to lewa in the ceremony he was deffo robbed that year and the 2023 ballon dor it was similar to 2018 haaland had better stats like messi but because he wasnt in the wc and in 2018 argentina failed it was awarded to modric who was the best at the world cup similarly messi was undoubtedly the best player in that wc the way he dropped pretty much a 10/10 in all games after the saudi game which were all u lose ur out situations and dragged that team to the top single handedly if haaland would have swapped seasons with messi he 100% would have won the ballon dor but the way messi won the one trophy that evaded him his whole life and he did it being by far the best player he deserved the ballon dor and thats it so he was not lucky with any circumstance he desrved all 8 with no shadow of a doubt and the 2019 one was the only 50/50 ballon dor which either player deserved and who ever won would have been with margins so stop forcing these dumb narratives of he was lucky by the circumstances he wasnt lucky his perfomances stood out more and meant more thats why he won simple as that
@fcb.4life665 ай бұрын
@Elbichofanu should do that bro there’s no need to hate someone cuz u like someone else
@fcb.4life665 ай бұрын
@Elbichofan 2019 was Messi without a doubt don’t bother trying to argue one of his best versions ever. 2020 is what lewa deserved not 2021 cuz that’s a whole different story in 2021 lewa had only more goals than Messi . If ur seriously suggesting a 73 goal season and 91 goal year in 2012 is not enough for a ballon dor but Ronaldo scoring 63 is then u need help, might as well suck him off too. 2023 Haaland wasn’t perfect throughout the season and neither was Messi however one lead their country to the World Cup the other was lead by his team and the system to a treble. yes he had goals and yes it was a record breaking season but most of the goals were meaningless and meant nothing plus he ghosted in every single big occasion great season but inconsistencies in matches that mattered meant he lost it was a 50/50 but bc Messi was more decisive and better in the important matches he won
@fcb.4life665 ай бұрын
@Elbichofan nothing to do with it I can say that u are a Ronaldo fan with how much glazing u do to him I’m simply stating the truth and using facts
@fcb.4life665 ай бұрын
@Elbichofan Messi in 2012 had 73 goals brother r u high how have u brought Ronaldo to the table u Ronaldo meat riders never fail to amaze me
@fcb.4life665 ай бұрын
@Elbichofan notice how I never mentioned Ronaldo in a bad light or brought him in why do u meat riders bring him in, in every video to do with Messi
@GermanAndres-hp4un5 ай бұрын
Iniesta was injured more than half the season in 2009-2010 and that caused him to enter a stage of depression which was cured almost before the World Cup, so you cant say that just because he scored in a WC final means he will win the Balon d’or which isn’t a fact
@mrd3neem4 ай бұрын
messi 2022 6 goals 1 wc and iniesta not even 10 goals a wc no ballon dor
@greendragongames80844 ай бұрын
If we go by Messi fans logic, messi won in 2010 because of stats, instead of iniesta who won the World Cup, which is fine, but then in 2023, halaand had the better stats, but Messi still won
@leonardoi97224 ай бұрын
MESSI HAS BETTER STATS.\ HAALAND HAS ONLY GOALSS/
@Fcuniverse13784 ай бұрын
@@leonardoi9722even mbappe was better than messi that year
@natixityy4 ай бұрын
@Fcuniverse1378 they were on the same team.. you're comparing a cam to a striker lol.
@Fcuniverse13784 ай бұрын
@@natixityy Messi is not a cam He plays cam But not every time
@natixityy4 ай бұрын
@@Fcuniverse1378 he's developed into a cam/cf. It's basically the same thing.
@okwyunams84399 ай бұрын
To be fair. You've made a brilliant video. But just like you pointed out, it's based on the so-called criteria which are 3. But you should've pointed out also the fact that a ballon d'or should be an individual award that recognises primarily great individual performances across a season or year in which case Messi should easily have won at least 10/11. So just as he was fortunate in some years(based on their inconsistent criteria) he was also "robbed" in some years as well such as 2016, 17 and 18 in which although he lost out on the biggest trophies, no one was simply more outstanding than him.
@rickgrimes95308 ай бұрын
Messi was robbed in 2016 and 2017? Nuh uh I don’t think so 💀
@okwyunams84398 ай бұрын
@@rickgrimes9530 Yeah. Just follow what I wrote and you'll understand. I understand why he didn't win those years and why CR7 or Modric won. But it's all based on the same point I'm making which is that trophies like UCL and WC heavily influence who wins. Based on individual brilliance and performances throughout. Messi was CLEAR in those years.
@rickgrimes95308 ай бұрын
@@okwyunams8439 2016 and 2017 Messi only had more goals because he played more games. While CR7 was Portugal and real madrids most important player, Messi in 2016 ghosted when it mattered most and in 2017 he didn’t do much either. Stats aren’t everything. If they are then CR7 should have won half of Messi’s ballon dors (2011,2015,2021,2023) but we don’t talk about that do we?
@rickgrimes95308 ай бұрын
@@okwyunams8439 2016 and 2017 Messi only had more goals because he played more games. While CR7 was Portugal and real madrids most important player, Messi in 2016 ghosted when it mattered most and in 2017 he didn’t do much either. Stats aren’t everything. If they are then CR7 should have won half of Messi’s ballon dors (2011,2015,2021,2023) but we don’t talk about that do we?
@alpbridges35537 ай бұрын
@@rickgrimes9530 No because you're forgetting assists too. It's important to include considering he is not a striker and the main attacking player like ronaldo ,whereas messi is the playmaker. Each of those years 2011, 2015,2021 he had more g+a. 37 assists in 2011 as well is the 2nd most in a calendar year behind vidic with 38. And 2023 you have to include the fact where Ronaldo was most of the season... and his WC performance or there lack of in goals. But yeah if it was just stats messi would win 10/11 but I think it's stupid JUST to include stats.
@MISTER_amar7 ай бұрын
It's not really controversial it's just haters who bring up controversy
@WinstonCatherine7 ай бұрын
most ballondor after 2018 was kinda rigged
@MISTER_amar7 ай бұрын
@@WinstonCatherine nah bro if you think lewa deserve ballon dor just watch lewandowski best performance and messi average game performance you'll see the difference And if you think haaland deserve ballon dor watch his performance in important matches and watch messi performance in important matches you'll see the difference And if you think vvd deserve ballon dor that means you never watched football before
@WinstonCatherine7 ай бұрын
@@MISTER_amar what are you talking about. Obviously you would be biased cuz you would idolise messi. Speaking from a non biased standpoint, 2021 was clearly lewondoski because of his performance in 2020 as well which he should of deserved something for it and if you dont think thats the case then that shows that the validity of this award is stupid, plus he basically perfomed as well as messi in 2021 apart from messis copa america performance. 2023 should of been deserved to halland cuz of his unmatched consistency throughout the season. Sure he didnt play well in big games but messi only played well in one big game/compeition (wc), and if you think that performance deserves the ballondor then thats stupid. When Halland entered the prem league, he dominated it, while messi (no offence) was struggling in a stacked psg team and cant carry team through in the ucl (also a big game p.s) like he did in barca 2019. Both halland and messi had relatively the same g/a but once again you have to account for the hardest league vs the french league and also 10-14ga was taken from mls from july-nov. Halland just played a better game in his position even tho messi also played really well, halland deserved 2023 becuase of his domination in the prem league. And 2019 is arguable, vvd had one of the best performing defending season while messi was carrying a dead team. Even tho messi did deserve the award, vvd's impact on liverpools defensive stability and the fact no one has dribbled passed him throuhgout that season should of been recognised. But overall thats a opinion for 2019 because messi played exceptionally but vvd also helped of the success of liverpool.
@MISTER_amar7 ай бұрын
@@WinstonCatherine 🇳🇴 Goals 🇦🇷 Assists 🇦🇷 G/A 🇦🇷 Trophies 🇦🇷 Key Passes 🇦🇷 Big Chances Created 🇦🇷 Throughballs 🇦🇷 Long Balls 🇦🇷 Dribbles 🇦🇷 Freekicks 🇦🇷 Goals Outside the Box 🇦🇷 Awards 🇦🇷 FIFA Best 🇦🇷 Laureus Award 🇦🇷 Best Playmaker 🇦🇷 MOTM 🇦🇷 MVP Btw Not to mention the guy name kdb who carried him without him he's like higuein and we both should agree on this but of course as you are ronaldo fan you would always bring up controversy Enough said. 2018 Messi finished 5th in Ballon Dor with better numbers than 2021 Lewandowski, No one said Messi was robbed.maybe he had bad international year. 2021 lewandowski was only ahead in goals like 10 goals but messi outplayed him in every stats and most importantly international stage where lewandowski failed miserably and messi led his team to his first international trophy after long 30 years and also won pott most goals most assists in tournament and big factor he has double of man of the match award as lewandowski (messi 27 motm) (lewandowski 12 motm) so please don't just rely on goals But in 2021 Lewandowski was robbed. Rules are not same for Messi. Well 2019 vvd I mean come on man 2019 messi was I don't need to explain this messi was out of this planet that's what I'm gonna say.
@MISTER_amar7 ай бұрын
@@WinstonCatherine and I'm not being bias I still think Ronaldo was kind of robbed in 2018 bd
@hakimkoudache27404 ай бұрын
Ballon d’or is an award for the best player in the world, all his career messi been the best player in the planet even the years he didn’t get the ballon d’or, for me he deserves at least eleven
2010 Iniesta he was injured half of the season with 15 g/a 😂
@EMFG024 ай бұрын
Accurate af!
@wizard094 ай бұрын
2019 van dijk
@anushithk61474 ай бұрын
@@wizard09 if Liverpool won pl or fa Cup he would have won they only won UCL tht season
@cool_player11923 ай бұрын
see you’re biased, you give 2012 to messi when he didn’t win any trophies, he just scored a ton of goals, but you don’t give the ballon dor to ronaldo in 2013 when he scired a ton of goals and didn’t win any trophies… you either give them both the ballon dor in 2012 and 2013 respectively or you don’t give it to wither one of them
@Sirskyyy2 ай бұрын
VvD is my favorite defender and his 2019 year was the best peak a defender has ever been, but what Messi did was insane too. He put up numbers and broke records that made him look like he was truly a one man army who stood head and shoulders above everyone. That very fact was enough to compensate for his lack of many trophies.
@sc-sportscompilations57535 ай бұрын
Lewa had 69 goals in 58 games Messi had 43 goals 61 games If you say Messi deserved it above Lewa, that automatically makes Ronaldo the deserving winner of 2012 for winning La Liga in a year he scored 63 goals
@abidujkarn62435 ай бұрын
just one question. Where you born this dumb or watching football from shorts made you this dumb?
@tristantemple8345 ай бұрын
Good thing the ballon d’Or isn’t about Goals. The Golden Boot is there for a reason 😂😂.
@timo86275 ай бұрын
Who won the America? Who won the copa del Rey with a shitty team?
@Tyrant_F1lthy5 ай бұрын
Tf he scored 50 goals in 2021 and 69 in 2020
@HistoryBasis5 ай бұрын
@@tristantemple834 So no striker deserves to win Ballon dor now?
@ainanzahid4481 Жыл бұрын
He was deserving. You cannot say any of them were undeserving or unfair. The argument you pointed out is - Many players got their voting shares divided to their teammates… Yes,, because they did not shine like messi right? They did not play as well as messi. Hence it’s not that messi is undeserving but that they weren’t the best in their teams. Probably if you remove salah, mane from the picture van dijk would’ve won it, however, without salah and mane they for sure wouldn’t have won the UCL vice versa for xavi and iniesta. You can say that well they couldn’t shine properly because it wasn’t possible. Then why did messi get highlighted infront of xavi and iniesta? Because of his performance and capability. Please don’t make it like that he won because he was lucky, he was the best on those years including another year when he came fifth in ballon dor
@penwellkhoza7341 Жыл бұрын
He should make a video to respond to this. The lack of a stand out player is ridiculous considering that Messi was also one of 3 players of the same club but even in that situation, he beat two of his teammates who had more accolades.. Yes he still beat them individually.
@Hambogz7 ай бұрын
so your saying he not only deserves ALL 8 of the ballon d'or, but that he deserve an extra one? craziest thing I've heard today :/
@alpbridges35537 ай бұрын
@@Hambogz He deserves all 8. And he shouldn't have come 5th in 2018 is all they are saying . If you disagree, I suggest you watch the video where they conclude 6. And the fact that VVD/Iniesta/Sneidjer/Xavi. Were not the best/standout player for the respective clubs which is why I say 8.
@Mdksupreme16 ай бұрын
Your points are all ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
@sayandas39394 ай бұрын
If Lewandowski deserve in 2021 so was messi in 2010
@amanchhetri8005 ай бұрын
he has won it so many times...every time seeing the same face ...made people ignorent and felt it was rigged. He deserved it all ...when u look at his stats and performence .....ballon d'or is not about only goals.....GOAT for a reason❤. Messi and ronaldo both are goats❤
@Zzz-mc7ki4 ай бұрын
Nah he shouldn’t have won all 8
@KasierKrew4 ай бұрын
@@Zzz-mc7ki just proved his point penaldo fan 💀
@Zartress4 ай бұрын
@@KasierKrew Or just a fan of fairness. As VVD atleast should've won. Well what can you do ballon d'or rankings favor attackers too much
@AliAlnokhitha4 ай бұрын
He didn't deserve 2019 van dijk deserve it
@ZzIAM0oftheworld3 ай бұрын
@@AliAlnokhithaMessi had one of the best individual seasons in history and VVD only won the UCL and so I think Messi deserves it .
@Kaizerr-yw5ghАй бұрын
Based only on individual performance : 2008:Cristiano 2009:Messi 2010:Messi(Iniesta was injured half of the year, Sneijdar was not even the best player for Inter Milan) 2011:Messi 2012:Messi 2013:Cristiano 2014:Cristiano 2015:Messi (He had more g/a than Neymar) 2016:Messi 2017:Cristiano 2018:Cristiano 2019:Messi (Both were best for their teams but Messi had a worse side and the hero of that comeback against Barcelona was Wijnaldum, though it is very very close) 2021:Lewandowski 2022:Benzema 2023:Haaland Based on individual performances, Messi deserved 7 Cristiano deserved 5 Based on team performances and awards won: 2008:Cristiano 2009:Messi 2010:Sneijdar 2011:Messi 2012:Iniesta 2013:Ribery 2014:Cristiano 2015:Messi 2016:Cristiano 2017:Cristiano 2018:Modric 2019:Van Dijk 2021:Messi 2022:Benzema 2023:Messi Based on this, Messi deserved 5 and Cristiano deserved 4
@AmendoesstufАй бұрын
How tf does messi deserve 2016 😭🙏
@Kaizerr-yw5ghАй бұрын
@@AmendoesstufHe had better stats individually, you can check if you can, but only INDIVIDUALLY
@AmendoesstufАй бұрын
@@Kaizerr-yw5gh cristiano has better stats in 2016 before you say anything. I'll tell you he won the champions league, club world cup, uefa super cup and euros not only that but he also lost less games than trophies he won he also finished top scorer of champions leauge but I'm curious show me messis individual performance 🤔
@ekeebobs752029 күн бұрын
@@Kaizerr-yw5gh But statistically Messi was better than Ronaldo in 2018 even though Ronaldo won more. Even with all thst Messi was ranked 5th.
@Amendoesstuf11 күн бұрын
I agree messi being ranked 5th is a disgrace but he still doesn't not deserve to be even top 2
@kfcintheocean4 ай бұрын
noone wanted haaland to win they just wanted messi to lose
@vasilijeviktor544 ай бұрын
Soo true, they still hate him like saying: ,,he would be nothing without KDB" and ,, Tappin Merchant"
@tardenov29684 ай бұрын
@@vasilijeviktor54 For me it's funny, i talked with my friend and he said Haaland should not have won it because KDB carried him and then i said okay if KDB carried him why shouldn't he get it and he just said he didn't do enough so if KDB carried Haaland and city to a treble how does Messi deserve more?
@ggothemadlad30644 ай бұрын
If by "they" you mean the cry baby messi haters, then yes.
@defiant10304 ай бұрын
or maybe it’s city fans wanting the first player to play for their club and win the award simultaneously? maybe it’s people that liked seeing haaland at dortmund and were glad for his success? or maybe it’s just premier league spectators that just saw haaland and thought he was the best? it’s not all about messi you dingus, your self centered mentality is idiotic.
@AhmedAlmobarak-d2y4 ай бұрын
I am I the only one who wanted haaland to win 😅
@ekeebobs75202 ай бұрын
For me only 2010 is debatable. 2019 was the most complete version of Messi.
@marcusxerxes39624 ай бұрын
Messi should have won 10 as matter of fact. No one came close at his best.
@farhanurrahman22843 ай бұрын
Ok now that is just delusion yes Messi is one of the best player but saying that is just bias
@Enjoyyourlifeinpeace18 күн бұрын
I'm still curious on how some people think Messi rigged the Ballon d'or
@dimplesharma96674 ай бұрын
And 2021 Lewandowski deserved that
@UserVVV694 ай бұрын
19/20 not 20/21
@dimplesharma96674 ай бұрын
@@UserVVV69 ok fine but 2023 is undeserved
@xhhdbdhsb81924 ай бұрын
@@dimplesharma9667 no that was deserved too
@dimplesharma96674 ай бұрын
@@xhhdbdhsb8192 definately not stop glazing
@kalgria4 ай бұрын
Similar stats but Messi won the World cup, WC golden ball, league and national cup, while Haaland won the treble and top scorer. Both have a good case, but for me Messis antics on the biggest stage deserves a ballon d'or@@dimplesharma9667
@lassisusi67274 ай бұрын
The thing is, messi won the ballon'dor cuz of the world cup. But if argentina had lost the final in pens with messi scoring his, he wouldn't have won. It really doesn't make sense that you won because of others in the team succeeding in scoring pens. Still deserved it
@NOBODYM9274 ай бұрын
Iniesta didn't deserve 2010, he missed the most of the season and his stats weren't that good, even if you compare him to other ballon d'or winning or competing midfielders; vvd definitely had stronger case for b'dor than iniesta, but there was a reason he didn't win, it was because Messi had one of the biggest carry jobs if not the biggest carry job in football history, he didn't have any strong teammates except one or two (at least in that year), he had the most goals in a season, he also had two world class performances against liverpool, he had the liverpool defence on strings, he lost because of his teammates, he created most chances, had many assists, had lots of key passes, great efficiency, was accurate on target, pretty sure he had the most dribbles as well, so he not only had one of the biggest carry jobs in football history, he also had one of the greatest individual performances EVER leading in many statistics and being in top 10 in many others while not being trophyless; Lewandowski 100% deserved the ballon d'or, however it wasn't in the 2021 season, messi was the clear favourite that year, putting up great performances, having great stats, while not being trophyless for club, or country, winning copa del rey, ligue 1, copa america and im pretty sure finalissima also counted that year. the year lewa deserved the ballon d'or was 2020, and thats not arguable
@MalaysianBallProductions4 ай бұрын
As a Ronaldo fan both are equally the goats They both changed football single Handley
@roxey78454 ай бұрын
Bro sorry but Messi in 2019 was the best messi we ever saw...he was a different monster and really really deserved that balon dor maybe you could argue he did not deserve the 2010 or 2021 balon dor but never ever 2019
@victordk28743 ай бұрын
I take any out for 2019 btw Van Dejk was not real human that year only 1 player dribble past him for a whole Damm season and He won all major titles not a day I give that to Messi if you just have little respect for all time best performance from a defender if we just take from 1 year
@xxlucxx97273 ай бұрын
@@victordk2874All titles??? He didn't win the premiere league, nor the fa cup. He even lost against Portugal in the unl final. He just won the ucl.
@victordk28743 ай бұрын
@@xxlucxx9727 He won champions league, UEFA super cup winner and was UEFA best player in Europe, He was player of the year, 97 points in premier league (2nd) only 1 player dribbling past him whole year lost to Messi by 6 points that year everyone was in shock that Van Dejk not won and from that day the meme FIFA boy started He was the best player by everyone and awarded for it by all except FIFA… wish is just sad when He was by far the best defender in 2019 we seen in football past 25 years
@xxlucxx97273 ай бұрын
@@victordk2874 Yeah everyone was so shocked that they actually gave him a standing ovation when he won it. And no he didn't get nicknamed fifa boy for that award, ballon d or is provided by France football, fifa has nothing to do with it. Messi that season was the ucl top scorer, laliga top scorer,laliga winner, golden Boot winner, as well as the IFHHS best playmaker award winner.Not only did he receive a standing ovation but van dijik himself in an interview told that Messi deserved to win the award.
@victordk28743 ай бұрын
@@xxlucxx9727 Van dejk is a humble guy if you not knew it yet… if He lose ofc He not gonna say He was the better player He would look dumb as fuck😂 and yes Messi got the nickname FIFA boy after that He won la Liga that’s it… you not win ballon wish so low titles and no major titles if you not called Messi I remember all said ofc Van Dejk gonna win and all was in deep shock… if you can’t say Van Dejk was way better than Messi 2019 then we done wish debating now those 6 points different was because they want Messi to win was clear to see for all who seen football in the past many years
@aronhorvath-m9f2 ай бұрын
This is the best video i have ever seen about this.
@mahadevansubramoniam44544 ай бұрын
Messi is a beauty of a footballer. Being the greatest in a year is not just about stats. It also about how beautiful you play. Messi deserved every single one.
@dunuobinna7574Ай бұрын
Name one player in history who has been as individually brilliant or close to being as such as messi was in 2019? That was one of his most deserved balon dors in my opinion
@NagrisSultana8 ай бұрын
He deserved 7 times 2021
@Leon玲央8 ай бұрын
I think he deserved each he got. 2021 is verry close tho. In the end he had an International Man Of The Tournament for the Copa this year. I guess more people would been happy, if Levi would have gotten the 2020 one before that. I dont understand the argument made in the video for 2010 btw. Like who gives out a Ballon d'Or for the winning goal. Iniesta wasnt the best player of the tournament aswell and Messi was arguably the best player on Club Level.
@shebabanidiengdoh20168 ай бұрын
Messi smoked lewa in every stats except goals and win copa america but lewa win only bundesliga and the most valuable is a international trophy messi deserve 2021 ballon dor
@emmanuelugwunne3217 ай бұрын
@@shebabanidiengdoh2016 Well Mbappe smoked out both of them that year. I followed Mbappe closely and G+ A were better than both
@emmanuelugwunne3216 ай бұрын
@zariflasker8006 not in 2021 lolz
@emmanuelugwunne3216 ай бұрын
@zariflasker8006 it was in 2021. He was the best. Go and look at his stats. He even removed Messi in UCL that year scoring 4 goals in 2 matches against Barca
@spkolneyanal61574 ай бұрын
Great video,now no complain from the haters
@HectorMwemba Жыл бұрын
Six he really deserves 6❤❤❤ but good luck to goat😢😢
@fcb.4life66 Жыл бұрын
why
@JimScott-e9n Жыл бұрын
5 but it's a popularity contest.
@fcb.4life66 Жыл бұрын
@@JimScott-e9n all 8 and 0 doubt and if it was a popularity contest then ronlado would win since he is more popular u lot are just salty and think u know better than proffessionals
@emmanuelugwunne3216 ай бұрын
@@fcb.4life66 All 8 lolz. 2010 was a farce. Messi didn’t win UCL nor World Cup. He was trounced 4-0 by Argentina. Was whacked by Chelsea. He doesn’t even come in the conversation in anyway. Ronaldo had more goals than him. Lolz. Then 2019 and then ofcoz 2021.
@fcb.4life666 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelugwunne321 2019 was the best player by far don’t even argue 2021 is not close either Lewandowski only deserves 2020 but bc they didn’t give it to him ronaldo meat riders are left with the idea he deserved it when he didn’t and 2010 who invited Ronaldo Messi outscored him so idk what ur on about
@Yash7031_4 ай бұрын
11:08 if you say that Messi was the best player individually in 2019... You are wrong, VVD was both, the PL and UCL MVP, 0 dribblings taken in 2019 calendar year and 18/19 season. Not mentioning the UCL final MVP and him having an higher match rating media than everyone else in that season. He also won the most important competition at club level, the UCL and the club world cup. Not giving it to him was just undair that year. Also, I'm seeing that you are always talking about the year. The ballon d'Or take the season before, from August-July, for example from August of 2023 till July 2024.
@HDL288 ай бұрын
2009-Barca won sextuple and Messi was the best player 2010-Iniesta scored like 3 goals and sneijder wasn’t even the best inter player Messi was clear of both 2011-One of the goat Lionel’s best performances scoring 60 goals and leading Barca to UCL 2012-91 goals, I don’t need to say anything else 2013-Messi almost scored the same amount of goals as CR7 in way less games 2015-Won Barca the treble and had like double the stats of Neymar 2018-Ronaldo was overrated, and the ballon D’OR is an individual award and messi scored and assisted way more than him 2019-Messi carried a terrible Barca team to UCL semi final+league title scoring 50 goals I’m just speaking facts
@rickgrimes95308 ай бұрын
Almost scored the same amount of goals? Buddy Ronaldo in 2013 had 69 goals in 59 and had more goals than games Messi didn’t. And in 2018 he was mediocre in the World Cup and flopped like Ronaldo did in 2022 (but no one talks about that) and Ronaldo won trophies like the ucl and the uefa super cup but Messi only had La liga to show for it. Ronaldo outperformed Messi in the World Cup that year and had better performances with Real Madrid
@HDL288 ай бұрын
@@rickgrimes9530buddy Messi 2018 World Cup was still good, at least bro didn’t get benched for good reason
@emmanuelugwunne3217 ай бұрын
2018 Ronaldo was the best ever. You swing your argument the way you want. Ronaldo winning UcL in style and Messi failing against Roma. Lolz
@luanmacek6 ай бұрын
You are delusional 8-2 fan
@emmanuelugwunne3216 ай бұрын
@@luanmacek 8-2essi
@4vdio4 ай бұрын
I agree he shouldve gotten at least 6-7, in my opinion of course, i believe wesley shouldve won it bc despite him not producing crazy statistics like messi did in 2010, he won a treble and took netherlands into the world cup final, modric won a champions league and took croatia to a world cup final and won it. So my personal opinion i believe wesley shouldve won it, AND if they stuck to the whole “individual statistics “ this year, then rodri,vini, and bellingham shouldnt even be getting calls to this years balon d or. instead it should be kane or mbappe up for this years balon d or debate since they both created 50+ goal contributions. Now in 2019, van dijk was clearly the best defender of that season without a doubt. But since all he won was a champions league and didnt really produce much into the international team level, thats what caused him to lose. So that one is a bit debatable but at the same time i do believe he shouldve won it that year or salah.
@ymperator38893 ай бұрын
2023 was robery so so much
@sourswift4 ай бұрын
Man lewandowski deserves an official Ballon D’or for 2020 it’s so unfair he didn’t ever get one I get why Messi won in 2021 but I just think Lewa should’ve gotten a separate one for 2020 because the ceremony was cancelled
@ultimatesa55784 ай бұрын
Messi should have won more than 8. This award was reduced down to just goals and assists (in some years) to make a case for Ronaldo.
@linathincwana46654 ай бұрын
That's an extremely dumb statement to make.
@drtehreem25024 ай бұрын
@@linathincwana4665yeah
@ultimatesa55784 ай бұрын
@@linathincwana4665 not really. Ronaldo is only good if he's providing goals or assists. Players like Messi or Zidane can impact a game even without G/A. We limit down to just goals and assists to make it look close between the two... but it never was clsoe.
@rapidxen70674 ай бұрын
@@ultimatesa5578No way you are hating on Ronaldo. Man you Messi fans don’t respect any legend.
@ultimatesa55784 ай бұрын
@@rapidxen7067 How is that hating?
@jonahrios82423 ай бұрын
I get stats, but just like how that one famous commentator, saying “they can’t show this in the statistics.” When he was dribbling 3 or 4 players
@vikramop16974 ай бұрын
now show 2018 ballon d'or🤡
@catawastaken3 ай бұрын
Modric desserved it,He was the best player in the world lmao
@fahimmaf24693 ай бұрын
@@catawastakenYou sure ? 😂
@Joshua-w5y3 ай бұрын
@@fahimmaf2469yeah. Modric totally deserved it
@catawastaken3 ай бұрын
@@fahimmaf2469 cr7 got carried,also what did portgual do in the world cup
@ogbanw862 ай бұрын
@@fahimmaf2469Modric genuinely deserved it. You can say Ronaldo had way better stats than him, but modric also carried his team to the World Cup finals and is one of the best midfielders.
@yalelionel19304 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos about messi Ballondor. Very Good and neutral ❤ Thanks
@nooreldeenboy4 ай бұрын
No ballon dor is just a bunch of journalists who vote for their favorite player
@1XEROZ4 ай бұрын
It doesn't depend on stats or team trophies its all about favorism.A bunch of fat fu*ks choose their favorite player.That is why ronaldo only got 5 of them.😂🐐
@IDK-p6d8c4 ай бұрын
I think the only one he doesn’t DESERVE is 2023. Haaland had the most goals, was top scorer, had decent assist, UCL top scorer, Treble winner, and broke so many records. If he had that season any other year, he would’ve won it for sure. Messi had a good year, but he wasn’t all that good. He had decent stats but it was in a terrible league. He was good but he ghosted in the champions league. He was excellent in the World Cup but he had 4 penalty goals and a tap in (the stuff they criticize Haaland for). Overall, he was alright. My point is Messi had a mid year. He also already had 7 ballon dors. He also was probably gonna win the super ballon D’or. He was already basically the greatest. I don’t see why a dude who won a World Cup and was already the GOAT had to win over a youngster who had one of the best breakout seasons of all time
@KasierKrew4 ай бұрын
World Cup? It's debatable, which is why this video exists.
@IDK-p6d8c4 ай бұрын
@@KasierKrew for me it’s not. I get it he’s ending his career, but Haaland had the ideal ballon D’or season. Messi was only good in the word cup(he was amazing).
@Fcuniverse13784 ай бұрын
@@IDK-p6d8cnah Most of his goals were from penalties Even mbappe was better than messi that year
@IDK-p6d8c4 ай бұрын
@@Fcuniverse1378 meh
@brightburn4445 ай бұрын
To those fighting fans Messi vs CR, Even removing controversial Bd'ors, Messi would still top CR in bD'or race !!
@thanos94835 ай бұрын
No, they would Both have 6
@ayanghosh27235 ай бұрын
@@thanos9483 no the ribery one was robbed and Modric deserved it cause he made the finals of wc and won golden ball so it shall have been 4
@BothoBenoni5 ай бұрын
No they would not bless up dummy
@64kingarthur5 ай бұрын
@@ayanghosh2723Modric barely did shit for Madrid, he was in fact average. Balon d'Or measures a player's season, not just a single month of performance, and clearly underperformed compared to Ronaldo. Just look at the Gap Ronaldo created when he left Madrid in 2018. Could have won 4, maybe 5 UCL If he didn't. That's how much of an impact Ronaldo had on the team. If we go by your logic Iniesta should have won the Balon d'Or, instead of Messi when Spain won the world cup but fanboy being a dumb fanboy is all that matters to you does it?
@ProfSeloTheGoldenDragon.5 ай бұрын
@64kingarthur 😂😂😂Modric was the WC MVP, WTF are you talking about?! Iniesta was injured through out season, he played a few matches, I can't say the same about Modric!
@ahmedharun2864 ай бұрын
The speaker is clearly a messi fan What about 2018 when Mbappè won the world cup
@lassisusi67274 ай бұрын
2018 modric won not messi
@Harun-hr4em4 ай бұрын
Modric won in 2018 kid
@ahmedharun2864 ай бұрын
@@Harun-hr4emi know modric won but according to his logic when it’s world cup year balon d’or is given according to world cup performances
@ahmedharun2864 ай бұрын
I know Modric won but according to his logic when its world cup year ballon d’or is given according to world cup performance
@Constantinos_Is_Dead3 ай бұрын
In the 2017/2018 season Mbappe had 21 goals and 16 assists, while Messi 45 goals and 20 assists. That's not even close. He scored in the WC final so what? Should the award in 2014 be given to Götze for scoring in the final? Come on.
@javier098763 ай бұрын
So the World Cup is very important when messi wins it but not when Xavi and Iniesta won it? Got it.
@AddeAli2 ай бұрын
Messi just didn’t win it he absolutely carried winning 5 motm which it’s the most a player have ever got in a wc and won the player of the tournament scoring two goals in the finals clutching u gotta include what they did in the wc not just win it lol and iniesta didn’t have such performance as Messi did 🤦🏽♂️
@javier098762 ай бұрын
@@AddeAli HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 5 penalties is carrying? Ok you delusional being.
@AddeAli2 ай бұрын
@@javier09876 0 ball knowledge scoring pens isn’t easy especially in a world cup go ask roberto he knows all that pressure u have is not normal the whole world is watching u
@AddeAli2 ай бұрын
@@javier09876 he got the most goals n assists, g/a for Argentina in that wc so yes he carried
@AthulChandran-qx5nw2 ай бұрын
Zidane won in 1998 like that, OG Ronaldo won in 2002 like that.. And Messi won in 2023 like that! Those 3 really helped their countries win the wc, if it weren't for them France, Brazil and Argentina wouldn't have won. Now for Spain, they didn't revolve around any single player but rather a very strong collective force that's why Iniesta or Xavi didn't win. And I know France, Brazil and Argentina were great teams in tournaments they won but Zidane, Ronaldo and Messi were the main reasons their respective countries won the world cup and guess what, all 3 of them scored twice in the finals of 1998, 2002 and 2023!
@calypso1145Ай бұрын
If we based the Ballon d'Or on goals alone, that means there are no chance for defenders amd goalkeepers?
@peterbravo2233 Жыл бұрын
The bias the voters have helped him allot
@Naldinho4565 ай бұрын
Oh I guess the best foot balling minds are biased
@babalombewu27664 ай бұрын
Messi been the best player in ther world since 2007 man. Its just giving the balondor to same guy for 2 decades is crazy, Messi has actually underachieved in his career, with his talents he should have done more between 2016 and 2019, its just both club and country felt very sluggish and dependent on a Messi who seemed to be going to work instead of enjoying playing ,2013 also felt like messi didnt care , 2014 ballondor should have gone to messi but his season was overshadowed by WC Loss There has never been a year when ronaldo was better than messi , Real Madrid was just better than barca and Ronaldo was the face of Madrid.The only player who has come close the the level of Messi in terms of all round game is Neymar, Maradona , Ronaldinho
@washingtonelvira52005 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. If Ballon d'Or really awarded the best player of the season, not the most successful one, Messi would've won all Ballon d'Ors from 2009 to 2019.
@luqiiiii5 ай бұрын
Icl no
@cloakermc89275 ай бұрын
Only some changes Franck Ribery 2013 Cr7 2014 Suarez/griezmann 2016 Neymar 2017 Mohamed salah 2018
@washingtonelvira52005 ай бұрын
@@cloakermc8927 like I said: if they awarded the best player, individually, Messi would've won every single year from 2009 to 2019. You can go and get all other player's numbers during that period and see that none of them played better than him. Ribery had an awesome season in 13, but he didnt play better than Messi.
@washingtonelvira52005 ай бұрын
@@luqiiiii lcl yes
@cloakermc89275 ай бұрын
@@washingtonelvira5200true
@nikhtzatzi6 күн бұрын
2021 is the only one that I kinda wanted Lewa to take his ballondor that he didnt in 2020. About 2010,2015.. Yeah, Statistics aside, Messi was like in another universe from the rest you just could not give it to another..
@frxstedfn4 ай бұрын
Nah, Messi is just FIFA's boy
@joelOmojogberun4 ай бұрын
It ain’t even fifa giving ballandors its France football so don’t even try that one buddy
@Salazars104 ай бұрын
buddy… you’re just exaggerating and not admitting that messi deserved all of his ballon d’ors..
@svedskybezdomovec13824 ай бұрын
And Penaldo is UEFA's pet 😂😂ze
@keshavbhattrai14022 ай бұрын
@@joelOmojogberunpenaldian dog has no brain ..even don't know how ballon d'or is devided
@404Maqui4 ай бұрын
Can we talk about how he didn’t win in 2016 and 2018?
@seaniverson78704 ай бұрын
Biggest meat riders in history: Pessi Fans and Penaldo Fans 😂😂😂
@scuti86434 ай бұрын
for real, i'm starting to hate fans of both
@rrongashi-uz8ms4 ай бұрын
@@scuti8643 thank u man finally someone agress with hating both
@natixityy4 ай бұрын
As a Messi 'meat rider' we only meat ride because Ronaldo fans will vehemently ignore everything on their screen if it doesn't sit with their agenda. So we have to match them somehow😂😂
@scuti86434 ай бұрын
@@natixityy messi fans are literally the same lol, fuck both
@seaniverson78704 ай бұрын
@@natixityy Lol
@samoht-k2gАй бұрын
For me Messi deserved1st : 09,10,11,12,15. 2nd: 13,14,16,17,18,19,21. 3rd:07,22
@EddieMunson-bb8du5 ай бұрын
messi deserves 4 (max 5) ballon d'ors 2019 should've been van dijk clearly 2021 should've been lewa cause copa america is not even europian trophie and it's even easier than la liga winning 2023 should've been halland for his triple or mbappe for his outstanding season in the world cup winning the world cup has never been a reason to win the ballon d'or as we say in 2010, 2014, 2018 but as soon as messi wins a tournament everyone will be like, this tournament is the most important and the greatest but in the end it's just voting it doesn't tell who's the best player this season, cause modric didn't deserve it as a madridista i'm talking
@MARIO-uw6zg5 ай бұрын
2021 should have been lewa definitely but 2019 nah van dijk shouldn't have the won the award messi deserved to win it
@Marlo-Stanfield5 ай бұрын
2010 Messi didnt deserve it they gave it Modrid in 2018 because he had a good world cup run either Sneijer or Iniesta
@roopachougale3775 ай бұрын
L PANALDO FAN
@roopachougale3775 ай бұрын
MESSI Deserve EVERY EVERY BALLOON D OR
@debmalyachatterjee225 ай бұрын
Completely agreed-in 2023 if WC is very important then Mbappe deserves it...if not then Haaland/Rodri deserves it.
@katlegoselomaneАй бұрын
social media is not a good place to be. image people saying you don't deserve to win.
@ChikentendaDLS5 ай бұрын
The glazing on the last one is absolutely mad. Haaland having better attacking statistics and more trophies that are harder to win, you can't conivince anybody with a working mind that Messi desreved it just because of the World Cup. His performances weren't even that great in the World Cup itself, scoring more than half of his goals as penalties and even a tap-in in the final. They didnt even dominate the tournament itself that much as well, almost bottling the QF to Netherlands and taking the game to penalties against France. And robbing Mbappé the golden ball even though Mbappé scored more goals despite not getting 5 pens like Messi is insane. Fucking insane. To make it worse, the World Cup tournament is 7 games. All Messi won besides that was Lighe 1 of which Haalnd had the Premier League, the toughest League On Earth. As for Messi's World Cup, Haalnd had the FA Cup and the Champions League, and the UCL is definitely not as prestigious as the World Cup, but you still have to play more matches in a season to win it, making it far more difficult to win than a 7 game tournament, and thats just common sense. I havent even mentioned the fact that Haaland won EPL Player Of The Season, EPL Young Player Of The Season, was the first player to win both those at the same time, epl top scorer, ucl top scorer and European top scorer. Lets not forget Haalnd is a Striker, a no.9 and his sole purpose is to score goals, not to assist.
@mdsafran17435 ай бұрын
Man's talking like world cup is some burger league cup World Cup is the most prestigious trophy when it comes to any individual awards And messi had like 63 g/a and haaland had 65 g/a not much difference. And you're telling that messi didn't perform well in worldcup I don't know which year's world cup tournament you watched That was the best performance an individual have created in that world cup which is why he was awarded the golden ball And you're telling that haaland won the treble, so did Ribery in 2013 and Ronaldo won the ballon d'or, so is it rigged, no right? And to add extras messi won the ligue 1 and fifa the best. Ballon d'or is not only about goals. Messi also had the most chances created. You are talking about 4 pens still right, France had 4 pens and 2 own goals in 2018, Still i didn't hear a word rigged at that time. Messi is too good that his success in his career has become the biggest enemy of his life. You are talking about UCL has more matches to play than a 7 game tournament. What are you man are you dumb. This seven game tournament comes only every 4 years, and normally a football player can only play 4 or 5 times in that tournament. And world cup has 5 times more hype, pressure and competition than this UCL. You said that haaland is no 9 and his job is to score goals not assist. What tf do you think Messi's job is huh? He is a creative playmaker, and has more goals than a normal striker. And goals are not the only thing. If it is for goals then there is another award named golden boot. So stfu. The world cup has a very huge creditability which is enough for a good competition in a ballon d'or. And he also had a good normal season. And for a fact messi can't score 91 goals in every calander year yk. Messi's bad performance is the dream of other's best performance. Messi has showcased a very good performances in his past that you think he should still do that kind of performance to win a ballon d'or. That is completely wrong. Man is getting old and this isn't 2012 anymore. So grow up kid and stop crying.
@ChikentendaDLS5 ай бұрын
@mdsafran1743 yk what is Burger League? Fucking Ligue 1 is isn't bull shit to the Premier League my dawg, even if you have a World Cup, which you dint even win by a convincing margin. Try Harder.
@mdsafran17435 ай бұрын
@@ChikentendaDLS what do you mean we didn't win world cup by a convincing margin. Who should we convince? you? I don't think we need to convince someone who is crying since December 2022
@mdsafran17435 ай бұрын
@@ChikentendaDLS world cup has 5 times more value than this motherfking premier league
@mdsafran17435 ай бұрын
@Elbichofan brother why didn't you cry like this on 2018 when France got 4 pens and 2 owngoals. Yeah we did loose to Saudi but what? It didn't matter we defeated Netherlands, Croatia and France to win the world cup so stfu 11 year old. Start to accept the reality, instead of crying for straight 2 years, The fact that Your favourite player or nation didn't win doesn't make that the other team winning is rigged. Accept the fact.
@lincyjoseph823Ай бұрын
Can you explain ( reason) who deserves ballondor from 2008to 2024
@sadibahati975611 ай бұрын
Big rubbed 😂😂😂😂
@syedabano67768 ай бұрын
What’s a rubber like bro give your phone back to your mum
@sadibahati97568 ай бұрын
@@syedabano6776 your mom 🍑🍑 is on fire 🔥🔥🔥😂
@sadibahati97567 ай бұрын
@@syedabano6776 your mom
@sadibahati97567 ай бұрын
@zariflasker8006 arg robbery fan cry in comment🍼🍼🫵
@sadibahati97567 ай бұрын
@zariflasker8006 sorry daughter I'm not crying your mom on the bed is crying.
@tinofaratinashemukakaso56325 ай бұрын
Good video, here is another subscriber
@PardonMachiva-nh1rg4 ай бұрын
Ronaldo fans are the ones who are against Messi. Messi deserved everything
@ZMAJEVI74 ай бұрын
I think he deserves 6 or out of 8 I wouldn't say all of them but yeah 6 or 7 in my opinion first 4 he deserved definitely the other 4 are debateable
@Raymoondthethird4 ай бұрын
He did not deserve them all
@xgshdh4 ай бұрын
@@Raymoondthethird If your favourite player would've won 8 you wouldn't be moaning out here . I love watching y'all cry about this and the thought that y'all are gonna cry for the rest of your lives is satisfying asf.
@saftsack4764 ай бұрын
@@ZMAJEVI7valid opinion
@mikelbaningo64074 ай бұрын
@@Raymoondthethirdcry more kid
@draxnelson.ww.172 ай бұрын
i think he deserved 2019 because no one matched his performances at all. despite the criteria, looking at Liverpool and how many players were great and were undeniably the best players in their positions in the world at the time… adding Trent, Robertson, Alisson, Fabinho… Liverpool were bound for success and we cannot look at them and say they were elite… or else the 2018 ballon d’Or would be Griezmann’s and not Luka Modric. Messi single-handedly took Barca to the semi final of the ucl, final of cdr and won the la liga all on his terms. stats aside… look at his impact on a team where he was literally the only person performing. he deserved that Balon d’Or.
@bellyman17833 ай бұрын
This is a topic that doesn’t sit right with Messi fan boys. Y’all know as great as he is he didn’t deserve 8.
@AM-sv5ph2 ай бұрын
he deserved more than 8. people just want to see new faces win the award, that's the only reason there's controversy. he was among the top scorers while being the best creators for like 12 years, if you had to evaluate his performances without knowing his name you would give him like 11 ballon dors
@bellyman17832 ай бұрын
@@AM-sv5ph The Ballon D’or is ideally given to the the best player in the most successful team in club and country. Some how when it comes to Messi the narrative shifts pattern to favour him. Fifa chose him and gave him multiple questionable Ballon D’ors. If Messi had the season Lautaro Martinez had this season, trust me no one would go near that Ballon D’or How he won it over Haaland is simply ridiculous Don’t get me started on the one he robbed from Lewa. You people keep bickering about his record breaking season and rightly so…Lewa practically broke a record won many trophies but we all know what happened. We’re not even going to talk about 2019. He literally got knocked by Liverpool and faced a man that wasn’t dribbled past the entire season. But nooo since is Leo, it was given to him. 2010 needs no explanation, we all know who’s that one is. 😂 These are conversations y’all don’t wanna have but your goat as great as he is has some stolen goods in his collection
@AM-sv5ph2 ай бұрын
@@bellyman1783 lautaro is a striker, messi would never have a season like him cuz he's a playmaker. you cannot comprehend the game beyond goals and that's on you. haaland was nowhere near as good as messi in 22/23 ssn. if ronaldo won a ballon dor without winning a single trophy it means messi being by far the best performer is enough to win it. being top scorer doesn't mean being best player
@bellyman17832 ай бұрын
@@AM-sv5ph Use your head and read my argument. I never mentioned goals nor Ronaldo. What you said here simply makes no sense. If you were shown a plain sheet of the stats and trophies of Haland and Messi in 2022, you would’ve voted for Haland. The fact that I have to buttress on this shows me your levels of delusion. You’re beyond a point to be reasoned with
@AM-sv5ph2 ай бұрын
@@bellyman1783 you understand that goals are not the only stat right?messi clears haaland in literaly any of the dozens of other advanced stats we have. and messi's trophies are more impressive (wc, league, supercup). i just brought up cr7 as an example that you don't even need trophies to win. figo also won it without trophies
@TREPIIID4 ай бұрын
Never understood the revisionist rationales by Twitter brain-rotted goons that the 09/10 and 12/13 wins of Messi and Ronaldo were "unearned". It's reaching at best and it's this type of desperation to get these two out of the spotlight that resulted in 17/18's ceremony that saw Ronaldo finishing 2nd and Messi finishing 5th despite these two being the top performers that season yet again. 18/19 follows a similar logic stream where people were desperately clawing for a defender to win it again, but how one can overlook Messi's performances that year is beyond me. Ronaldo and Messi have raised the bar so high that giving anyone else an award would be a pity award and it's not like people pushed them half-heartedly either. Xavi in 09/10 was incredible as was Suarez in 15/16. Of course, the years where both Ronaldo and Messi finished 1st and 2nd respectively were just out of this world. 11/12, and 14/15 in particular were just insane. The only Messi wins I disagree with are his last one, and possibly his 21/22 win. The reason for the former is that Ballon Dor has changed its parameters to exclude collective wins and focus on individual performances. How they concluded that Haaland smashing every PL goalscoring record isn't an individual milestone that's worthy of the Ballon Dor is beyond me, and international arguments can't be used against him given he plays for such a low-ranked team. The parameters are too loose to be taken seriously. Keep in mind, that this award is a journalist's wet dream and nothing more. The fact that Busquets has never been in the top 15 yet Jorginho has finished third is incredibly laughable. Hell, Messi and Ronaldo have been screwed over as well. Ronaldo finished 6th in 09/10 and the aforementioned 17/18 positioning of both are both ludicrous.
@hiworldds4 ай бұрын
messi has not deserved a ballon dor since 2015
@nedum_stanley4 ай бұрын
Cry harder
@Isirsizitsitreed4 ай бұрын
Thats why he has more assists and better goat/a and better goal rate per game than pendoggy
@Slayerthehunter1234 ай бұрын
Who tf care about your opinion? Messi will return the Ballondor bcuz of your stupid comment?
@nathangrey62364 ай бұрын
@@hiworldds keep crying it's music to my ears
@CEXTEXWWWNONE4 ай бұрын
Bro Messi had more g/a than neymar in all competitions and the same exact trophies Messi was bette r
@legendaryman49203 ай бұрын
I think out of 8 Messi deserved 7 because Van Dijk should have won in 2019
@hammodi35144 ай бұрын
My opinion on the Ballon d'or 2008: Ronaldo 2009: Messi 2010: Sneijder/Milito/Iniesta (I'd pick Sneijder personally) 2011: Messi 2012: Messi 2013: Ronaldo 2014: Ronaldo 2015: Messi 2016: Ronaldo 2017: Ronaldo 2018: Ronaldo 2019: VVD 2020: Lewa 2021: Lewa 2022: Benzema 2023: Haaland
@jonnybarron15184 ай бұрын
If you think Ronaldo should have more you have low ball knowledge. Been watching the game for less than 5 years
@Fcuniverse13784 ай бұрын
This list is actually the best by far 2013 I reject cause ribery deserved it more
@natixityy4 ай бұрын
We sure are lucky the ballon dor isn't based around you're opinion lmao. It is voted by professionals and you think your opinions matter?😂
@anushithk61474 ай бұрын
Bruh take out Iniesta put messi... Iniesta was injured half of season in tht season even in Spain squad he wasn't best he had only 2 goals in wc one in group stage one in final
@hammodi35144 ай бұрын
@@anushithk6147 still doesnt deserve over milito or sneijder, and no iniesta wasnt injured for that long
@Itz_just_stxrmy2 ай бұрын
Ive come to realize its a "anyone but Messi" mentality Ronaldo fans will say anything that Messi has more than Ronny in is rigged But football fans will see that these 2 legends of the game who contrast each other in many ways stand head and shoulders above the rest not only as individuals but as the greatest rivalry football has ever seen thank you both goats for making me fall in love with this beautiful game So in conclusion YB better💚
@shotbyvoid4 ай бұрын
HE HAD LIKE 6 PENALTIES BRO THE BIAS IS CRAZY
@abd_126364 ай бұрын
Only 4 not 6. Same amount of pens were given to France also in 2018.
@KasierKrew4 ай бұрын
Aww, feeling sad for Misstiano Penaldo? 😆 Keep being mad and go to bed, kid.
@shotbyvoid4 ай бұрын
@@KasierKrew misstiano? isnt he the one that actually scores them unlike pessi
@shotbyvoid4 ай бұрын
@@KasierKrew pessi doggy had so many pens and he scored a lucky asf rebound that almost got cleared
@shotbyvoid4 ай бұрын
@@KasierKrew i dont wanna hear it from sm1 that has “soccer” in their name
@Mastersuii74 ай бұрын
He did not deserve 2015 balon dor nay mar socored a goal in every match no doubt he deserved it but your just a normal Messi fan saying he deserved it
@leonardoi97224 ай бұрын
\xddddddddddddd AND WHAT\? MESSI CREATED ALL OF THESE GOALS. 93 G/A IN 14/15 SEASON AND 350 DRIBBLES WON AND 40 MOTM
@baasilmustafarizvi18974 ай бұрын
Messi deserves 4 Ballon d'ors
@BrandonBang-e5m4 ай бұрын
It's your opion
@BrandonBang-e5m4 ай бұрын
It's your opinion
@baasilmustafarizvi18974 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBang-e5m this is the reality
@legendaryman49202 ай бұрын
Messi was top scorer of UCL in 2010 and 2019 and won Spanish Super cup in 2010 and super copa re espana in 2019 and UEFA Super cup in 2010 and top scorer of laliga and laliga winner in both 2010 and 2019.Spanish Super cup winner in both 2010 and 2019.Became Spanish in both 2010 and 2019.
@Trauma_Clown4 ай бұрын
actually they should give golden balls to Messi 5 years in a row after he retires as a gratitude for what he did to football world. he changed the game for better.
@Top-G_4 ай бұрын
What 💀
@Goatleonaldo4 ай бұрын
What kind of drug did u take
@SMALLOW15124 ай бұрын
Nah you're on drugs
@IDK-p6d8c4 ай бұрын
@@Goatleonaldohe’s joking
@r3ddr01d75 ай бұрын
Jealous people and hater would say it rigged But those with intelligence and knowledge say he earned
@Goatleonaldo4 ай бұрын
Nah im an Suarez fan and honestly he didn’t deserve the 2010 ballon d’or, 2015, 2019 and 2021
@r3ddr01d74 ай бұрын
@@Goatleonaldo you didn't watch the video?
@r3ddr01d74 ай бұрын
@@Goatleonaldo 2010 Messi despite didn't win World Cup he the best Player in Barcelona and top scorer in UCL 2015, Neymar in UCL comeback to PSG is Awesome but then again Messi i whole UCL is better than Neymar 2019 is one if complete Messi and Carrie Barcelona in his back
@Goatleonaldo4 ай бұрын
@@r3ddr01d7 Not everything the video says is true
@r3ddr01d74 ай бұрын
@@Goatleonaldo well people biased to their opinion So tell me who Deserves Balondor that years If you say 2021 Balondor Lewandowski deserve it then i hate to break the news to you but 2020 Balondor was cancelled because certain Virus and that was the Year Lewa deserve it In 2021 idk
@CowboiEditz6 ай бұрын
2010: Deserved 2015: Deserved 2019: Deserved 2021: Not Deserved in 90% 2023: Not Deserved in 100%
@Whynotbro-c9l5 ай бұрын
2023 no ? He had more g/a than haaland won wc , wc golden ball ligue 1 , most g/a in ligue 1 and also had the most g/a in wc
@IDK-p6d8c5 ай бұрын
@@Whynotbro-c9lbro that was Friendly’s. He got stats in Friendly’s and a farmers league. He did nothing besides the WC
@Amos2Good5 ай бұрын
@Whynotbro-c9 Comparing goals from the MLS and Ligue 1 to Premier League Goals 😂
@Whynotbro-c9l5 ай бұрын
@@Amos2Good world cup ?? Its the biggest tournament in the entire sports history lmao and he won world cup golden ball and its given for the best player in it and had the most goal contributions and 6 momts in wc 😂
@Whynotbro-c9l5 ай бұрын
@@IDK-p6d8c lol having the most g/a is nothing? Lol world cup golden ball is enough to win him the ballon dor and messi scored 2 goals in final and had 6 momts and haaland was ghosting in ucl semi final and the final 😂
@kobethegoat8101Ай бұрын
Ballon dor 2023 is measured for 22-23 season
@InnocentPeters Жыл бұрын
The voters are sometimes biased
@FrostByte_064 ай бұрын
Messi deserved everything
@vashappeninoioipotatospoon4 ай бұрын
Well. If CR7 and LM10 are in the list they're definitely favoured. They are literally face of football and people treat them like Gods. Media get great attention in there names so Duh!!!!!
@Wysper.aep14 ай бұрын
@@FrostByte_06wow rlly?
@FrostByte_064 ай бұрын
@@Wysper.aep1 yh
@FrostByte_064 ай бұрын
@@vashappeninoioipotatospoon and they deserved it
@KidEinstein4014 ай бұрын
Fans messi are even disrespecting their goat" Like when messi won ballon dor over Lewandowski, he himself knew ut wasn't fair. 2023 ballon dor was completely for halland " if you are saying messi won the worl cup thats why they gave him the ballon dor. Then what about aneists? He won the wc in 2010? Why was he the ballon dor winner at that time. His stats were also crazy . Vdjk got also robbed
@T_da_yung_goat7 ай бұрын
As a Ronaldo fan, it feels like the criteria of the ballon d’or is weighed differently on Messi’s performance 😂😂😂(only half serious lol). I can’t accept his psg ballon d’or, or his inter Miami ballon d’or, mls is still miles behind other leagues, and the Saudi league is on a higher talent level. And even they are miles behind the major leagues in Europe.
@cloakermc89275 ай бұрын
If I wanted to see the Saudi league I could go to a retirement home and just throw oil money at them and say play football, a league of footballers who peaked in the 2000s isn’t better than and league in Europe, it’s closer to efl league 2 than even French league 💀🙏🙏
@rini100105 ай бұрын
@princedaking8964 he's a self-admitted ronaldo fan who thinks the saudi league is worth watching, he doesn't know all dat
@marekwisniewski58234 ай бұрын
Do Ronaldo fans understand that MLS games in 2023 don't count!
@amethystguy654 ай бұрын
The thing with 2010 ballon'dor is sneider, xavi and iniesta weren't the best players in the wc, thomas muller was the top scorer and Diego forlan was the player of the tournament. Diego milito was the best player of the inter side who even received uefa best player because of his club performances in european competitions again taking it away from snieder. Now if u look at messi, he was clearly the best player of the Barcelona side, in the league, in ucl, top scorer in both league and ucl. Even won the European golden boot. Anybody knows in that year messi was clear in individual performances and stats. Not to mention being the best player on a Barcelona side ahead of xavi and iniesta with them not clearly being the standouts for Spain and also not being the best in the wc. Also sneider not being the best player for club or country reflected well as he didn't even finish on the podium. Messi was well deserving i feel. 2019 ballon'dor, anybody who saw messi that year know why he deserves it. He didn't have half as good as team as Liverpool and fucked them in the first leg single handedly. His team dissapointed him towards the end. Messi was on a different planet that year.
@ambientwishwalker89085 ай бұрын
After watching Haaland in 23-24 season I can clearly say the 2023 was indeed deserving of Messi . But yeah the 2021 one is almost as controversial as 2013 .
@FrostByte_064 ай бұрын
Nah 2021 was deserved. Lewa won ucl in 2020. He deserved it that year. But not 2021
@Isirsizitsitreed4 ай бұрын
What lewa has better than messi other than goals
@Harshit-un4zy4 ай бұрын
@@FrostByte_06Lewa has just one goals less than Messi in international major tournament, he scored more in UCL , won eruopean golden boot , won more domestic trophies How come Messi was better ? He didn't even win the league and got knocked out at champions league round of 16
@footballman103 ай бұрын
Ballon Dor is an Individual Award. Messi was by far the best player in every season he won it and even in seasons he didnt win it. The only season that really is close is the last one but still messi was more desicive for his teams World Cup win than Haaland was for citys UCL, so his win is deserved.
@agustin37104 ай бұрын
Anyone who has seen Messi play knows he deserved every single one of those 8 ballon d'ors he won, period.
@XristosTsoutsouras4 ай бұрын
meat rider
@randomico7632Ай бұрын
I am a Ronaldo fan. You made a good job explaining everything Make a Ronaldo version
@poojapatel30917 ай бұрын
I think he deserves 5 or 6 time maybe but I feel bad for Lewandowski
@roopachougale3775 ай бұрын
Nah
@Mrdipbhai5 ай бұрын
Messi vs Lewandowski 2021 Messi Goals: 39 Assist: 16 G/A: 55 109 chances created 203 dribbles MOTMs: 26 Individual awards: 5 Trophies: Copa del Ray, Copa America Lewandowski Goals: 46 Assist: 7 G/A: 53 53 chances created 43 dribbles MOTMs: 15 Individual awards: 4
@kevinzanuar54924 ай бұрын
Should've had it in 2020, The Ballon d'Oro commisioner did him so wrong.
@frogish59774 ай бұрын
@@MrdipbhaiMessi vs Lewandoski 2020 isn't a debate tho
@kristofsebestyen52634 ай бұрын
@@Mrdipbhai brudda were to scared to put the treble with bayern 😂
@neutre549821 күн бұрын
If it was only about stats and advanced stats, Messi deserves 12 Ballons d'Ors at least !!! But yes he deserves all his Ballon d'Ors.
@Lingard-p4e4 ай бұрын
2010: Iniesta didn't deserve the Balon d'Or because he wasn't the individual best, in spite of winning the WC 💀 2023: Haaland did not deserve the Balon d'Or because he didn't win the world cup 🤡🤡🤡
@sweetrelaxaingcutecatsfunn35714 ай бұрын
2010 iniesta was injured half of the season in fact it was his worst individual performance of his career he wasn't barcelona best player or spain best player Xavi arguably was better than him for spain and barcelona you can't just expect to win a ballon dor just cuz of 1 goal in the final plus iniesta wasn't the best player of the tournament or the top goal scorer
@Gamer-ic8dq4 ай бұрын
What does Winning World CUP have to do with being the best? In that logic Álvarez should have won since he won everithing that year? That is a really bad argument.
@epicgamer1Ай бұрын
Talk about 2013 ribery robbery😂
@patrickmontie95834 ай бұрын
Short answer: Yes.
@L8mbard83 ай бұрын
Messi deserves 3 ballon d’ors as maximum, thats is the reality
@Ronin-Kai3 ай бұрын
No 💀
@rickRoy2033 ай бұрын
Then I guess Ronaldo deserves none
@Johnson-q7s4 ай бұрын
so basically he deserves 4 ballon dors
@JefferyCapalot4 ай бұрын
🤦♂️
@svedskybezdomovec13824 ай бұрын
Apply the same logic on Ronaldo and he has 3 😊
@locallospolloshermanoswork53644 ай бұрын
@@svedskybezdomovec1382No, he wouldn't he would have 4
@locallospolloshermanoswork53644 ай бұрын
@memezoo-hk5qt how so?
@legendaryman49203 ай бұрын
In 2010 Messi was the top scorer of UCL 2009/10 and lalilga winner plus top scorer and winner of super copa de espana and the winner of Spanish super cup and scored 47 goals.
@Kickolino7 ай бұрын
Tbh Messi deserved 9 ballondors. He deserved it in 2016 and if it wasn’t for his 2013 injury he would have easily won it in 2013. His form at the start of 2013 was abseloutly insane
@WinstonCatherine7 ай бұрын
he doesnt deserve 5 and you're the only one out here saying he should of deserved 9. good joke lad
@NamanRana20107 ай бұрын
@@WinstonCatherine well, sorry to break it to you pal, but he is right... 😂
@WinstonCatherine7 ай бұрын
@@NamanRana2010 He's just saying ifs and what ifs. Messi did not deserve it in 2016, his team won nothing and ronaldo had much better stats then him. Injuries are a part of football so you cant blame the injuries for a season award. And he didnt deserve 2023, and 2021. Maybe 2019 but thats arguable
@NamanRana20107 ай бұрын
@@WinstonCatherine 2023? Haaland deserved it? Treble more important that wc? Btw, I was joking, you're right, injuries are a part of football and you just can't rely on hypothetical situations
@WinstonCatherine7 ай бұрын
@@NamanRana2010 people underestimate the amount of records halland broke after his first year in the hardest league. Even tho messi's wc campaign was one of the best wc campaigns it shouldnt of won him the ballondor. The only reason messi won the ballondor is because he is messi, if neymar or mbappe had his campaign with the amount of trophies and stats he had in 2022/2023 then most likely halland would of won it. The only reason messi won is because of the fairy tale ending of him overcoming his failure in 2014 wc and transforming into another beast in 2022. But throughout 2023 he was really inconsistent in psg (as compared to halland) with his ucl campaign being inconsistent. Even tho messi did deserve 2023, halland deserved it much more.
@legendaryman49203 ай бұрын
Messi also won supercopa de Espana and Copa del Rey in 2018/19