The Double Crisis: Climate & Biodiversity | DLD Nature

[@john1boggity56]

One of the most important speakers in this space is Mr Rockstrom. Yet....after three days up, there are only 1.2k views. Lady Ga Ga should have delivered the talk instead - what does it take?

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Buckets of money. You must be a multi millionaire or billionaire.

[@richardharris7214]

........the truth

[@turkizno]

It's just showed up on my feed this moment. This is abhorrent, it should be promoted by the algorythm a hella lot more, I constantly watch this kind of stuff all the time!

[@d.Cog420]

There’s a really good long-form discussion with Johan Rockström on Nate Hagens channel. Well worth a listen IMO.

[@john1boggity56]

I think they are both brilliant !!!

[@TCRgalaxy]

Does he acknowledge humans as a species being in its Parasitic Plague Phase?

[@d.Cog420]

@@TCRgalaxy Quite a bit more than that.

[@Lucas-q9n3n]

Thank you for that!

[@Lucas-q9n3n]

Thanks for that, but also, this guy Nate Hagens is kind of stupid.

[@ulrichschonhardt6796]

50 years of ecological overshoot!! His optimistic closing words sound ridiculous to me. We're also destroying the Congo rainforest.

[@russmarkham2197]

well said

[@cynthiatheresasuzara2247]

We need to protect nature and keep the big trees standing , and we should all consider eating a plant based

[@aegaeon117]

That will do nothing in the face of what's coming. A plant based diet would actually take more lives than eating meat because, plowing fields kills all the animals living in the fields and more land would be needed to meet the demand.

[@john1boggity56]

People are not going to change. Our basic metabolic rate is about 100 calories per hour. Our social metabolic rate is magnitudes higher. None of us are going to live at 100 calories per hour. I think this train has well and truly left the station.

[@raonijosef5661]

We need not "big trees" standing, we need the ecosystems alive. In big parts of Amazonas rainforest de deforestation is between 40% and 70%. And are exactly the parts of Amazonas, where it should start to create it's own rain. That causes the draught 2023, the worst in history, and the draught 2024 even much worse than 2023. Two weeks ago Carlos Nobre, that "we" are surprised und "nobody" would have imagined what's happening now. Other warned since 2019 and new what will come!

[@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38]

@@john1boggity56 What does eating 100 calories per hour have to do with eating plant based? Just eat however much plant-based food you need to meet your caloric requirements.

[@NMPT777]

@@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 Yep.

[@thf456]

Saddened by the call for economic growth. What is the sole purpose for saving our home?

[@aegaeon117]

It cannot be saved, phasing out fossil fuels is fantasy, combining every renewable resource and nuclear doesn't meet our energy needs and even if we admitted zero CO2 today, the greenhouse gases we have admitted so far how does locked in for the worst of climate change. There is no technology that can feasibly remove the amount of CO2 we have put in the atmosphere and even if there was, it'd be too expensive with no profit.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@aegaeon117 "There is no technology that can feasibly remove the amount of CO2 we have put in the atmosphere" Well, if everyone adopted a vegan diet tomorrow, the science shows that we could remove over 600 billion tons of CO2 from the air (plus whatever CO2 the rebounding oceans could sequester).

[@nicolatesla5786]

Economic growth eq GDP eq CO2 EMISSIONS

[@frustratedatheist9885]

We have to frame everything in economic development, I don't think the general population would support any adjustment to the way they live "just" to support biodiversity. I live in the U.S. and with the presidential election coming up the focus is on the economy, inflation, and jobs.

[@stephentrueman4843]

cancers rates in young people are skyrocketing; we're experiencing endless growth alright

[@Jibbolino]

As expected, Rockström ended the lecture by administering some Hopium for the masses and leaving the audience with the sensation that "The Window of Opportunity" is still open.

[@ulrichschonhardt6796]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

Yes, as a researcher writing a book about how we can achieve the less-awful possible landing from the inevitable collapse, it's frustrating that even Rockstrom still sugarcoats what is required of us (ending industrialized civilization, massive redistribution of wealth, return to manual labor and agrarian lifestyle while shrinking the population rapidly but humanely etc) and the losses that will still be baked in anyway.

[@russmarkham2197]

The Hopium is a terrible mistake that well-meaning scientists keep making. Hopium gives politicians the excuse they want to do nothing at all and kick the can further down the road. The scientists do it because they don't like bringing bad news, they don't want people to give up hope entirely, and they don't want people to panic. But it doesn't work

[@robertmarmaduke186]

​@@HealingLifeKwikly#35&7 You first, pal! Came up on a hand-to-mouth coldwater farm with no electricity, outhouse, totally 'organic' lol, and for a period of years lived in the bush hunting, fishing and trapping. Lewis and Clark found only scattered tribes of dozens, _not millions!_ across the entire continent. Your theory is then mass genocide, typical cloistered pasty-hands academic. *LIVE IT FIRST!* _But you won't!_

[@charlesmain9938]

@@HealingLifeKwikly Well, there is always transhumanism--available only to the oligarchy, of course. While a 'massive redistribution of wealth', even if possible, will very likely include a massive shrinking of population and of wealth.

[@stoodmuffinpersonal3144]

This is serious stuff, and yet. I feel like more and more is done to stop anything done about it, than fix it.

[@patricialongo5870]

Of course. Conservatives oppose environmentalism. We have no political left, therefore no environmental policy. That's important for NATO.

[@russmarkham2197]

yes, the fossil fuel lobby has been very successful. The billions of ordinary people whose lives will be destroyed seem to have hardly any voice and no power at all to stop the destruction.

[@jollyjokress3852]

Yeah, "because the stupidos"

[@HedgehogInTheCPP]

Thank you, it's essential talk, it's not new data, but the massive impact of the people's knowledge about the climate and biodiversity crisis.

[@TomZanetic]

Change can only be made by government leaders, the majority who are self centred.

[@BLUESKY10X]

Good presentation but we are NOT at 1.2 deg C...it is long gone; We are surpassing 1.5 deg C as James Hansen said and others

[@TCRgalaxy]

8.3 Billion is the real number that needs to go down…1.5 is a symptom of human population Overshoot

[@denisdaly1708]

and the top 1% and top 10% ​@@TCRgalaxy

[@brianwheeldon4643]

100 percent agree. Scientific reticence and plain fear of losing privilege and maybe his job keeps Dr Rockström on a tight leash.

[@russmarkham2197]

well said

[@robertmarmaduke186]

#36&8 Hansen has a PhD in Astronomy and former career as NASA _administrator._ Now (forced to retire) Hansen has *no credentials, either education or research, as a 'climate scientist',* any more than Nye, DWTS cha-cha king!

[@cynthiatheresasuzara2247]

If we want CHANGE, each one of us has to start changing first because we can’t change others.

[@maxotaurus5140]

On average, businesses and industries consume significantly more energy than individual people, with the industrial sector often accounting for the largest share of total energy use, while residential energy consumption by individuals makes up a much smaller percentage; typically, only around a quarter of total energy use is attributed to households.

[@chesterfinecat7588]

I'm a free bird ......

[@deepashtray5605]

@@maxotaurus5140 As the end users of the products and services provided by businesses and industry, it is on us as individuals.

[@daraohogain]

​@@maxotaurus5140Fair and True. On the other hand (to play devils advocate busineses and industries claim they need to offer low cost products to consumers to maintain profitability 📈 or risk going bust. They don't have time or resources to make the transition to a sustainable economy. As such responsibility is placed back on the consumers and members of the public to demand more sustainable products and services by deciding carefully what we spend our money on and by voting for politicians who will implement regulations to protect the environment. ... wishful thinking?

[@patricialongo5870]

We need collective action to succeed. Of course capitalism will be the only collective action and you win.

[@russmarkham2197]

Some on this site have stated wrongly that extinctions are actually declining since 1900. This is not true. It can easily be fact-checked. Here is a quote from the Royal Society as one example: One of the largest effects of humans on the natural world has been to raise the rate of extinction of species far above natural levels. This began many thousands of years ago, and as a result the human-caused loss of global biodiversity was already significant before the modern era. Now, the extinction rate is accelerating, biodiversity is in rapid decline, and many ecosystem processes are being degraded or lost.

[@anthonymorris5084]

None of this is caused by warming. Extinctions have all been caused by overfishing, poaching and habitat destruction due to human encroachment from unrelenting rising population levels. Over population is the threat.

[@jollyjokress3852]

Yes, everywhere humans went especially big mammals or birds got extinct.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@anthonymorris5084 No, some of the extinctions were clearly driven by man-made global warming, and the number of such extinctions will inevitably increase sharply long before 2100. Take care.

[@jamesharkins6799]

We are way past 1.5 already.🎉

[@chesterfinecat7588]

Once Bill Gates Gazorkium reactors are in every kitchen we'll have enough power to air condition our planet. Let it go to 3.0 or 5.5 and all 10 billion of us will be fine.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

#47&8 Well I'm sure you can find some 'feedback tipping point' Dial to 11 in your synthetic climate models, _that fail both in forecasting and in hindcasting. You're Modern Queequeeg. "Make coffin, big. Water no come in."

[@jamesharkins6799]

@@robertmarmaduke186 fiberglass coffin with sails 😀

[@FREEMAPS]

That’s a small number if you’re trying to shake the world awake. Otherwise you’re preaching to the converted.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

@FREEMAPS #11:02:15:27- Climate Change© is 'Safe and Effective, and like the millions of Scienters and Politicians, Pharmacists and Physicians who pushed 'No )ab No )ob', the millions of Scienters and Politicians pushing Climate Change© grift will get off scot-free, fat bank, mad stacks. Last June it it's Chevron Acords decision, SCOTOS declared their Administrative BIöb State unConstitutional, handing rollout of the Globalist Scope 3 Mandatory Energy Austerity ESG Pogrom a defeat, but its up to citizens and taxpayers to Resist and Refuse. *Carbon Tax Is Government Theft!*

[@pokemon42jodeldodel97]

its been 50 years of explaining. now change something!

[@JCurcio]

That requires power

[@bradleymaples950]

Amen

[@aegaeon117]

Okay, change what, exactly? Stop burning fossil fuels and starve billions? The threats of climate change are locked in even if we emitted zero CO2 today. Renewable resources don't even scratch the surface of our energy needs and that's including nuclear power.

[@paulchace2391]

End of story comin no matter what he sez

[@paulchace2391]

Destabilizing is pronounced de-sta-( long A) bil- I-zing

[@knallhardt]

Dear Prof Rockström. Iam always impressed by your speeches. I would love to meet you. But today presentation and please Iam sorry for my words, but today Iam feeling like I have to puke and cry in the same time. What can a single person, a father, a husband do to change our Path of humanity? What can we do? Iam so scared and Iam a scientist, a geographer for climaterisk. Looking forward to your answer.

[@jollyjokress3852]

We environmentalists need to stick together anf empower each other. Yesterday i talked to a data scientisz and I learned that she is very active in her city to propagate environmentalism. We exchanged "contacts" but foremost reinforced each other.

[@patricialongo5870]

While the animals were being decimated, while they were killed my family ridiculed and tortured me when I tried to talk about it. They're Americans. Happy, successful and far more popular than I am, capable of decking me, their sister, for talking.

[@d.Cog420]

The likelihood of the entire human population having this paradigm shift is perhaps very close to zero, at least in the time left to do it. With this in mind, why are we not talking about what would happen if we don’t shift our ways in time? What are the real world scenarios of climate refugees, sea level rise, food production interruptions through climate stresses, what food will our children be eating and will they be fighting each other for it? Will the countries with the biggest sticks take control of global food production by force, will nut jobs try and reduce the population through bio-weaponry, or will others push nuke buttons? We need to be honest here, everyone alive today has only known Goldilocks living conditions and if these shift substantially, as I believe tipping points may effect, then we need to have plans and skills taught to the young to manage it (how to fix things, grow things, repurpose things, communicate new ideas without fear, self defence, regional defence, health knowledge, working as small communities in contact with each other sharing new knowledge.

[@john1boggity56]

Lets leave that to Hollywood - there is no plan B at a time when we desperately need one. In reality there is no plan B.

[@d.Cog420]

@@john1boggity56 Good title for a book.

[@andrewwilliamson8153]

Check out Uninhabitable earth by david wallace wells. The science is solid and the picture is clear. He does a good job showcasing the problems and how they play out at different temps.

[@d.Cog420]

@@andrewwilliamson8153 there are many pointing out the problems, all who are concerned in fact, there is just no one pointing out the what shall we do apart from survivalists and they have a very narrow escape plan IMO. If we really think it’s going to turn to shit why aren’t we talking about what next? Or do we just want to all sit back and say I told you so as we fall.

[@ChristopherLecky]

Humanity's current level of influence on the planet represents a fundamentally new variable, one that has no precise historical precedent in Earth's long history. While natural cycles like ice ages, tectonic shifts, and even volcanic events have shaped the Earth for billions of years, the scale and speed at which humans are impacting the environment are unparalleled. The only thing we should be doing given that this is the case is empowering those able to reimagine humanities existence on earth rather than looking to keep things as similar to todays arrangement as is humanly possible,,,, if those gripping on to humanity to harvest the spending potential of our species do not let go, the window of opportunity we have to utilise the creative variation and potential of our population will vanish in order to maintain the advantages of a few......!

[@felixsandstrom7427]

I want him to show some graph where it clearly show how much more extreme weather we have today relative to the beginning of industrial revolution. That would be interesting to see. How much higher hurricane frequency, how much higher intensity, how much more droughts, how much stronger heatwaves etc.

[@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner]

Also, nature is a path for humans to walk with for a satisfying healthy life.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Nature would try and kill you at every opportunity. Humans have made nature more livable. Because of the modern world we can now enjoy nature, safely.

[@MrVector55]

70 years warning, nothing ever changed

[@JimmyD806]

Holocene interglacial: Started approximately 11,700 years ago. It's the most recent of perhaps 21 interglacials over the last 2.58 million years. During interglacials, the climate warms, continental and alpine glaciers retreat, sea levels rise, and overall weather patterns change. Somebody should have thought to warn the democrats.

[@chinookvalley]

@@JimmyD806 It's the republikkkans who protect the oil industry, BIgAg, and BigCorp. You might to READ A BOOK.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@JimmyD806 I already debunked that above Jimmy--thousands of studies porve that our emissions caused almost all the warming and we are warming the planet at a lethal rate.

[@nicolatesla5786]

​@@JimmyD806 it's really the oil companies also global over population. If inoculation of diseses and penicillin was never invented, human population woukd be perhaps 25% today. Climate change " rising co2 levels decades into the future. Methane emissions are also recird high ! Humans are burning and releasing co2 at a aunal rate of emissions that is 10 TIMES GREATER EMISSION RATE VE THE LAST 3 GREEN HOUSE GEEN HOUSE MASS EXTINCTION EVEVT.

[@JimmyD806]

@@nicolatesla5786 I'm going to post some science you aren't going to understand... CO2 isn't energy. The Greenhouse Effect isn't an accumulative effect once pathlengths are short. There's so little methane above vibrational ground state due to IR absorption, there isn't enough energy there to melt an ice cube. The surface of Venus isn't hot because of CO2, rather it's hot because the DENSITY at the surface is 54 times that at Earth's surface.

[@ritchiemills3894]

We simply need to evolve as a species and come together as a common humanity fighting for survival; we can do this as easily as I can write it!

[@anthonymorris5084]

You want Islamists, Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, socialists, capitalists, abortionists and anti abortionists to just "come together". Good luck with that.

[@Spice1_]

Great vid thank you

[@TheAIPre-Human]

i hope to attend a lecture like this

[@Sustainablelogistics]

This is amazing!

[@A3Kr0n]

Great! Nothing to worry about, the leaders are taking care of the problem. Continuing on as usual...

[@PaulaTourville-po7fg]

Thank you for sharing .

[@theodoredesmarais4219]

Blackrock ; iE executives, and all Republicans should be forced to watch this.

[@charlesmain9938]

Pretty sure Those Who Know are well aware and are therefore accumulating (and spending) vast wealth in preparation--the real 'preppers'.

[@martinschmitz2954]

Change will come. By design or disaster. Our choice...

[@ValidatingUsername]

Hopefully the “experts” that made it through the social experiment filter solve the problem before it’s too late

[@cozmicmike6800]

It is common to believe that the last two hundred years of relative climate stability is something normal, but if we extend our gaze the climate looks far from stable, and we can trace human history through climate variability. Nations and empires have risen and fallen as rains have moved, lakes and rivers dried up, and agriculture failed, what is happening is not a new phenomenon. The current increase in rainfall across Africa, could be an anomaly, or it could be the return of a former pattern ? After all Africa once had a thriving river transport system connecting the oceans with great lakes, food production was high, and great empires existed, ancient maps describe this as do ancient texts. The world wasn't connected in the instantaneous way it is now, so when climate shifts happened it was viewed as localised phenomena, and there were winners and losers, but we adapted, and will adapt again to climate variability. In the past societies would blame their gods, or neighbours, or in more advanced civilizations, the variabilities of the cosmos and the solar activity. But now because as Nietzsche said " we have killed God " , we blame human activity and Co2, ignoring that our own science tells us that the global average temperature was 20°c during the Carboniferous, and Co2 was 1500 ppm, where as now it's 12°C and 407 ppm Co2, life was abundant during the Carboniferous, so much so that the remnants of that life formed the carbon that fuelled the industrial Revolution, and lifted the majority of us out of poverty, so that we instead of subsisting, could try to understand the weather 😊

[@GregSteele-os8yp]

Ye gods

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

"It is common to believe that the last two hundred years of relative climate stability is something normal, but if we extend our gaze the climate looks far from stable," Well, average global temps had been quite stable for the last 6,000 years and were supposed to be quite stable for the next 50,000 years, and that stability is what allowed civilizations to emerge. Here's some data to illustrate how incredibly unusual what humans have done is. Due to man-made global warming, the Earth is now the warmest on average that it has been in ~125,000 years, and we are warming the planet around 38 times faster than it usually warms when coming out of an ice age. That rapid rate of warming is very harmful/deadly for species and the ecosystems that all life on Earth--including us--depends on. Due to our emissions, CO2 levels are now the highest they have been in ~14 million years and we are increasing CO2 levels 10. times faster than they increased before the worst mass extinction event in Earth's history. Large changes in CO2 levels have been the main "kill mechanism" for extinction events in Earth's past. " But now because as Nietzsche said " we have killed God " , we blame human activity and Co2," I hate to burst your bubble, but none of this has anything to do with religion or superstitious thinking. Thousands of research studies and 40+ years of quite accurate climate models prove that our emissions caused ~98% of global warming since 1900. "our own science tells us that the global average temperature was 20°c during the Carboniferous, and Co2 was 1500 ppm" That's totally irrelevant. The sun was dimmer then than it is now, partially offsetting the effects of higher CO2. Also, Earth had different species and ecosystems then, and the ecosystems that all life on Earth NOW are dependent on are adapted to CO2 levels of 300 ppm or lower. Change those levels rapidly and substantially and most life on Earth will die off. That's just how the laws of nature work. P.S. The average global temp now is actually around 15 degrees C.

[@trstquint7114]

The Double Crisis: Climate & Biodiversity: 10K views in 13 days. Mr Beast: 100 Identical Twins Fight For $250,000: 44.649.026 views in 1 day. That proves we are doomed.

[@anthonymorris5084]

We're doomed because people have no interest in fear porn?

[@jollyjokress3852]

Yeah. Ever thought about the fact that the average IQ is 100? I mean people interested in natural sciences are way above that and the great scientists way way way above that. It just means, IQ 100 is rather fit for consuming tabloid media.

[@jollyjokress3852]

I smell a XXxX denier here. Go, educate yourself.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@jollyjokress3852 Scientists likely have very high IQs, Environmental climate zealots, not so much. They're driven by emotion and ideology, not intellect.

[@lifesabeach9451]

We can consume less and choose not to by silly cheap useless plastic toys on Amazon. We don't need to travel so much. We can choose to skip the gym and do labor intensive work rather than use a fossil fuel gadgets but we need a good leader to motivate us.

[@theonionpirate1076]

And most important, we can push for the energy transition to be as rapid as possible

[@President_NotSure]

yes lets go

[@leon_.ro2000]

I comment for the algorithm.

[@stigsrnning6459]

Stratifications of soil layers pose a threat, since moisture is getting too low to sustain life there to interact with upper layers; then heat and carbon not easily levelled among plants - domino effect on animals... Then more heat and moisture must be levelled on open spaces not covered by manmade constructions - last decade more billion buildings, roads... to cover the ground than ever before reducing area to spread heat + moisture; then instead increasing extremes and delaying dividing of energies to increase temperatures when less rugged terrain or open divided space so wind/eddies can break up energies and divide vapors, and lower relative humidity, to get us more stratifications of soil...an evil feedback.

[@FranzDörig]

the biodeversity on earth was never so well then we have it right now .. please open all your sensors and will be very surpr…!

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

"the biodeversity on earth was never so well then we have it right now " You apparently are not opening your "sensors"--the health of ecosystems is rapidly deteriorating and populations of wildlife are declining rapidly.

[@TennesseeJed]

😮

[@TCRgalaxy]

Petroleum based Parasitic Plague Phase aka 8.3 Billion and growing…WASF

[@patrickball2493]

Two saparate issues climate crisis and biodiversity crisis. They are not related.

[@anthonymorris5084]

And only the latter is a crisis.

[@jollyjokress3852]

Yes they are related insofar that biodiversity loss is i.a. a function of global warming. Easy to inform yourself about this with the help of the adequate literature etc. It is also very logical once you have the info.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@jollyjokress3852 This is a fallacy. Warming hasn't killed anything. In fact, millions of plants and animals across the entire northern hemisphere are experiencing habitat expansion for the first time in modern history, all solely due to warming. The greatest diversity of life on this planet by miles, resides in the tropics not Greenland. Life flourishes under warming. History and data prove this.

[@patrickball2493]

@@jollyjokress3852 No you are wrong they are not related ! . The biodiversity loss is due to 1/ Man's continuous encroachment into green habitat and spaces 2/Pollution and waste in environment 3/ logging and clearing of land for crops and the practice of monoculture. The climate crisis is due to 1/ natural and cyclical events occurring on the SUN and in the OCEANS .2/ The current pole migration/ weakening of magnetic field which protects the earth from cosmic radiation from space. This has messed up the jetstreams and has caused the climate change and weather extremes . So Increasing CO2 in atmosphere is not the cause climate change. The earth's atmosphere is absolutely massive . Nitrogen makes up the biggest portion . CO2 is a trace gas which makes up about a quarter . Majority C02 is due to natural processes in the ecosystem and man's contribution through emissions by continuing to use fossil fuels is tiny .

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@patrickball2493 "The climate crisis is due to 1/ natural and cyclical events occurring on the SUN and in the OCEANS .2/ The current pole migration/ weakening of magnetic field which protects the earth from cosmic radiation from space." Sorry pal, but thousands of research studies and 40+ years of quite accurate climate models prove that human activity--mostly our emissions but also deforestation that also causes loss of biodiversity--caused ~98% of all global warming since 1900. The false ideas that this has anything to do with natural cycles or the Earth's magnetic field was de-bunked decades ago. "The earth's atmosphere is absolutely massive. Nitrogen makes up the biggest portion." As the world's leading climate scientists would tell you, it makes zero difference how much oxygen and nitrogen there are because they don't react with IR. "CO2 is a trace gas which makes up about a quarter" No, CO2 only represents 423 ppm, but despite being a trace gas, it is THE main atmospheric control knob of global temps--in large part because it also influences levels of water vapor and methane. Without CO2, the Earth would be over 50 degrees F colder, mostly frozen, and probably lifeless.. "Majority C02 is due to natural processes in the ecosystem and man's contribution through emissions by continuing to use fossil fuels is tiny." You are confusing two different data points. The Earth's total annual carbon cycle is MUCH larger than our annual emissions, but before we started burning fossil fuels, that cycle was perfectly balanced. Thus, all our emissions are EXCESS emissions that disrupt the carbon cycle, and although they are only 3-4% of the size of the total carbon cycle, since 1776, those EXCESS emissions have raised global CO2 levels by 52%. Put differently, 34% of all CO2 in the air came from our emissions. Take care.

[@mikepotter5718]

We might hance a chance is the world wasn't full of dictators and the American election was being fought on something more serious than an old fart's obsession with cats and dogs.

[@patricialongo5870]

Yes, oligarchy secured the ecocide.

[@shamirkeren3954]

❤

[@sojournern]

I don't see how we can turn this into a hopeful view. With Donald Trump now looking to win and people in denial we as a race are up a creek. I wish I was enthusiastic.

[@Stefch2]

Just plant trees. Do not get overcomplicated.

[@nicolatesla5786]

AMAZON is on fire it's dying back it's a co2 emitter now no longer a absorber.

[@patrickball2493]

​@@nicolatesla5786It's dying back because of droughts.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@patrickball2493 It's dying because humans are burning them to the ground due to an increase of farming and development caused by unrelenting rising human populations.

[@jollyjokress3852]

This isn't the solution.we cannot store every fossil based CO2 molecule in tree biomass. It is physically impossible.

[@ritchiemills3894]

We

[@terenceharvey6432kong]

AS climate change takes hold of the planet Man struggles with the right direction and plan , This is only one part of the scenario , A possible direction for man kind to defeat climate change , A fleet of nuclear climate fighting battleships designed to last sixty years to bring us from 420 PPM too 280 PPM CO2e in the atmosphere our pre industrial levels witch will offer safe and stable climate The exact frequencies and wave lengths and transmitting devices are yet to be determined on some of the project , it requires a war like budget for research and development and implementation ,I would suggest a budget of 100 billion dollars per year,thats 1/1000 the of the global yearly GDP that's a pittance to ensure the survival of the human race that's 6 trillion over 60 years and that is the time frame it will take rectify the climate For only if we consider this a war shall we be triumphant, The planet mobilized thousands of war ships in 5 years of the second world war. why cant we do the same , 1000 vessels constructed over 15 years as well as 1200 land based transmission sites and 1000 tuned resonance climate monitoring and or transmission sats after all this is a global climate defence ,SRM , Global weather control system , That could be replicated and updated in 60 years , I say 60 years because that is the lifetime expectancy of the nuclear climate battle ships and the land based transmission sites boats/ Vessels to fight climate change via ocean iron fertilisation and atmospheric electrochemical reactions 200 mt long 60 mtr wide super liner s 1000 of them the battleship s of the war against climate change nuclear powered 500 MW each of mobile tuned resonance frequency modulation , The variation and combinations are endless Oceans Starting with large sets anodes and cathodes mounted to the bottom of the boats generating iron sulphate via electrochemical RF reaction ,stimulating and generating the phytoplankton to feed on co2 Sequestering up to 10 GT per year co2e planet wide on the ocean , we will not have to worry about the London protocol because were not dumping anything rather were manufacturing right out of thin air and all on site Electrochemical ocean iron fertilization and alkalinity enhancement approach toward CO2 sequestration - npj Ocean Sustainability nature.com www.nature.com/articles/s44183-024-00064-8 Ocean electrochemical iron fertilisation pdf Biosphere Next on our tool list is ship deck mounted Ionic cloud generators , That generate negatively charged ion Via scalar wave generators low level biosphere/Troposphere clouds for SRM , Charging the dimethyl sulphates and cloud nuclei from the ocean to form clouds Stratosphere Next on our tool list is project Lucy , ship mounted microwave transmitter to target methane adaptation by targeting the covalent bond and un couple the c H bonds and converting the methane to co2 and diamonds , The demands also generate a SRM deflection type reaction in the stratosphere www.scribd.com/document/136405901/Project-Lucy- Extended-Version-4 This takes care of the biosphere and the stratosphere now for the ionosphere Ionosphere Ship deck mounted Haap type radio transmitters 160 aerials to target the ionosphere for artificial plasma cloud generation to deflect in coming solar radiation we would also use the RF and plasma generation to convert the covalent bond of co2 and break into c witch falls to the earth and feed s the soil and 02 witch rises from the to form ozone,, While also stimulating phytoplankton in the ocean generating more oxygen that will eventually converted to 03 ozone to plug the gaps in the ozone layer , This could rectorate /adptate up 40 GT of co2 per year , this would be a real game changer with such a scenario allowing us to return to pre in industrial co2 levels of 280 PPM and a safe and stable climate WE could also use the haap array to charge existing particles in the atmosphere to vibrate and deflect solar radiation , No need to add any more forego particulate we already have put enough up there , I would suggest we target the methane and co2 molecules to begin with WE could also turn the system up and down almost instantly to accommodate the solar flare scenario or polar flip , during these time the magnetosphere is extremely depleted The combination of these four RF/ plasma generation technologies could also be used for the weather generation and control network, I would suggest a global weather control network , Utilising the 1000 boats and 1200 land based transmitters , ,5 scalar wave ion transmitters per country 200 countries to generate low level cloud SRM and generate the transpiration hydrological process water movement in the atmospheric rivers can be easily directed to places of most needs . drought /forest fires deserts , dry third world countries/food production areas , as well as each country having 5 scalor emitters they would also have a haap transmitter each forget about charging syress clouds were going to redesign aircraft fuel so we don't have the sulphur the soot and the pollutants being emitted , this will save lives , a bio fuel would have to be developed and manufactured to clean up the air ways , we could also take this opportunity to redesign the vapour trails to better serve the control network and the planets bio system A satellite monitoring and atmospheric adaptation scenario with 1000 ft x ft cube type sats or even up to 1 x 1 mtr cube sats emitting tuned resonance frequencies that can be tuned and programmed from afar as well reporting voluble atmospheric data/ atmospheric manipulation all controlled by quantum AI computing developed by NASA NOAH TELSTRA and the European space agency the north / south / east /and / west of it That's 3200 pieces of equipment and installations to be constructed /built in the next 15 years target operational by 2040 , The land sites to be powered by solar wind and battery with gem set back up on 2 x 2 KM sites the haaps to be at least the equivalent to Burbank's Alaska site while the boats will be nuclear or oxygen powered generating 500 MW of tuned resonance frequency transmission capability This is the way of the future especially if we can conj our oxygen power generation The planet will be around for billion of future years but the atmosphere wont be , so we generate artificial atmosphere now NO refuelling of vessels with dirty bunker fuels [nuclear]no emissions no mining or manufacturing of iron sulphate s for ocean iron fertilisation and no mining or manufacturing of iron chloride for enhanced methane oxidisation ,No dumping of lime stone for enhance ocean alkalinity , no spraying of sea water for marine cloud bighting and no spraying of particle into the atmosphere to be charged vis RF / micro eave /next rad , All can be achieved today via electro chemical reactions aboard our climate battle ships with all but no carbon emissions ,and no dumping of substances into the ocean with the associated mining/transportation and distribution costs , and no breaking of the London protocol on dumping substances at sea , These boats and land based installation will be at the wars front door fighting climate change on the front line , This is only one in many tools that will be required to defeat climate change This scenario can reduce the global average temperature by up to 5 DG , by simply turning it up or down , like a thermostat , able to react instantly to space weather events and volcanoe eruptions and events, Storms cyclone s all being driven and controlled by our climate weather control system Research and development into climate changing greenhouse gas s Mitigation Adaptation Restoration T J Harvey www.theglobalgorilla.com Strategic planning in climate engineering for sustainable infrastructure development worldwide docs.google.com/document/d/1Yly53ZRikqrwvDNzu9KNelbNeNQW7sKB/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103881424746433165106&rtpof=true&sd=true

[@kipper2942]

Rubbish absolutely crap

[@brettmeikle]

Ok prof. Show's yer working on that finding.

[@OldScientist]

Extinction rates (1500-2009) peaked around 1900 at 50 per decade. Extinction rates have declined dramatically to around 4 to per decade in the 2000s. So the extinction rate is very low: 900 known lost species for 2.1 million known species in 500 years (IUCN), so from observations there are an average of slightly less than 2 species lost every year. Out of a known species total of over 2 million. That gives an annual percentage loss of less than 0.0001%. That's background extinction. At that frequency it will take over 930,000 years to reach 80% extinction of species experienced at the K-T boundary that saw the extinction of the dinosaurs. Of course, extinction is a natural part of the evolution of life on this planet with the average lifespan of a species thought to be about 1 million years (cf 930,000). It is estimated that 99.9% of all plant and animal species that have existed have gone extinct. It should also be noted that no taxonomic families have become extinct in the last 500 years. In fact marine diversity at the taxonomic level of families is the highest it has ever been in the Earth's long history (see Sepkoski Curve). In a review of 16,009 species, most populations (85%) did not show significant trends in abundance, and those that did were balanced between winners (8%) and losers (7%) (Dornelas et al, 2019). There have been only 9 species of continental birds and mammals confirmed extinct since 1500 (Loehle, 2011). No global marine animals have become extinct in the past 50 years (McCauley et, 2015 using IUCN data). There is no climate crisis.

[@synupps877]

Thanks for the chuckle at the end.

[@OldScientist]

@@synupps877 Thanks for making it to the end.

[@GregSteele-os8yp]

It must be horrible inside your head.

[@OldScientist]

@@GregSteele-os8yp “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” Socrates.

[@GregSteele-os8yp]

@OldScientist There is no debate and you are using an unverifiable mishmash against a mountain of quality fact produced by thousands of honest researchers.You are a fraud and an embarrassment.

[@dbvoid1485]

He is an amazing scientist, and a un-amazing speaker. Terrible. Even for interested listeners after 2 minutes this monotone blabber is impossible to comprehend. I dont get why the academics cannot get speakers trainings.

[@ktmarty1]

Couldn’t disagree more. Gets straight to the point , no bullshit. I find him completely engrossing

[@dbvoid1485]

@@ktmarty1 you are referring to the content - which is great. My comment is solely on the speaking, not the content. And this is horrible.

[@ktmarty1]

@@dbvoid1485 “Terrible ?” “Horrible ?” “Monontonic Blabber impossible to comprehend ??? “ What hope do we have

[@ktmarty1]

“Terrible” is the way capitalism/consumerism treats the planet as a whole. “Horrible” is war and its effects on the planet and all its inhabitants. “Monotonic blabber that is impossible to comprehend” is what comes out of most politician’s mouths NOT this man. Show some respect.

[@russmarkham2197]

@@ktmarty1 well said. English is not his mother tongue I think. I wish I was as good at a foreign language as he is.