🤔 Replacing Passive Radiators With Actual Drivers taken from the Flip On My Charge 4. Good idea?

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DLX Willington

DLX Willington

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@LokeKQ
@LokeKQ 5 жыл бұрын
Try fitting in with some cheap prs instead of drivers for experimental. It might have more punch than normal prs? I dunno.... lets try that out. 👍
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
I have ordered a couple PRs and they both don't fit. I'm still looking tho' if I find ones that fit perfectly, I will come back and report with a video, I'm loving these experiments 😂
@LokeKQ
@LokeKQ 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington Yeah me too.... loving these experiments too. Some time later if you couldn't find any prs, then diy is your answer.😂👍
@rawwdyrichh3741
@rawwdyrichh3741 5 жыл бұрын
Can u add air inside the pr to make a speaker have more bass
@Rick-bm5uq
@Rick-bm5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@@rawwdyrichh3741 air inside a pr? How? With a compressor?
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 5 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing! What about upgrading the existing speaker w a coaxial race track driver for better highs???
@michaelrijnbeek4901
@michaelrijnbeek4901 5 жыл бұрын
Before:best bass After: not so good bass
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
YUP!
@derSkedda
@derSkedda 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington Is it sealed well, and are all of the drivers in phase?
@jblfamily02
@jblfamily02 5 жыл бұрын
Not it's because there's no prs 😂
@derSkedda
@derSkedda 5 жыл бұрын
@@jblfamily02 you really don't know any about sound physics, do you? 😒
@jblfamily02
@jblfamily02 5 жыл бұрын
@@derSkedda the speakers are just fighting each other which makes the bass kinda shitty
@odengv
@odengv 5 жыл бұрын
The original sounds better... the passive radiator gives better bass pump than putting regular speakers
@wiktor9632
@wiktor9632 4 жыл бұрын
VoV
@nu7166
@nu7166 5 жыл бұрын
it louder, but the original has deeper bass
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
Tru Dat 👍
@villepekkala
@villepekkala 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington hmm, if do put little port on back it maybe increase the bass
@arvis3run
@arvis3run 5 жыл бұрын
@@villepekkala Yap port could help in this case but bigger enclosure too😅😅
@ilyaan9928
@ilyaan9928 5 жыл бұрын
Bass better song
@revolution5547
@revolution5547 4 жыл бұрын
@@villepekkala port will not help. The enclosure already is yoo small
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
You could improve the bass if you hooked the new drivers up, out of phase with the big single driver. Just switch the polarity from + to - so that when the big driver pushes out, the smaller drivers are pulled in, and when the big driver is pulled in, the smaller drivers are pushed out. Right now they are all fighting each other to compress the air inside the unit.
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
This is quite interesting, it might with trying out 👍
@lukasmaruchnic
@lukasmaruchnic 5 жыл бұрын
True
@SOMNIOHM
@SOMNIOHM 5 жыл бұрын
my first thought.
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington I did the same thing to a stereo blue tooth unit. I removed the passive radiators and replaced them with drivers wired out of phase. It dramatically improved overall sound quality.
@arvis3run
@arvis3run 5 жыл бұрын
I would not suggest that cause they'll cancel each other out. What you have now is seald box. Changing polarity in this way is like plunging 2 different speakers out of phase and waiting for good results, but in realty they're gonna cancel each other out. Just look at bass driver, it needs enclosure cause there are 2 sides of speaker and without shaping the phase with box one side will cancel out the other.
@humboldtoregonian9400
@humboldtoregonian9400 5 жыл бұрын
The speakers need to be wired up in series. By wiring them in parallel, your lowering the ohms, increasing stress on the amp, and increasing the low end filter with the lower ohms. It would work best if the side speakers had twice the impedance of the original; so that, they could be wired in parallel with the intent of replacing the original driver. I guess in the end, more research could have made your first try so much better. Thumbs up for entertainment!
@elephant1851
@elephant1851 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't each speaker in the series become quieter and quieter because of the voltage drop?
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@elephant1851 That's why he said it sounds loud now. It was designed to work this way.
@jcmolero71
@jcmolero71 2 жыл бұрын
and it's more complicated because C4 transducer is 3 ohm, each F4 is 4 ohm, so if you put all three in parallel results in 1,2 ohm
@defectahz6399
@defectahz6399 Жыл бұрын
Not series, series parallel
@TrescoFresco
@TrescoFresco Жыл бұрын
This guy didn't even know what aluminum tuning weights were on the PRs.. I doubt he knows ohms law or parallel vs.. series. These are quarky ideas at best with no real understanding.
@holysagi1
@holysagi1 4 жыл бұрын
- Carefully. When you connect 3 Drivers to each other in a parallel order, the final impedance decreases radically. If you use the modified Charge 4 at high volume for longer time you can kill (burn) its amplifier. - You lost bass, because the box space decreased behind the driver when you replaced the Radiators with fixed drivers (and those also require box space).
@reinceljoshsanjose
@reinceljoshsanjose Жыл бұрын
Yeah cause the box is sealed too so the bass lowers
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 5 жыл бұрын
It's out of phase, it could work if the polarity for speakers on sides is reversed to stock one! Try this out again, it should change the sound if you do that
@beans1396
@beans1396 5 жыл бұрын
the modified one has more treble and not enough bass but sounds louder
@djekrom3286
@djekrom3286 5 жыл бұрын
Yea cause the flip 4 drivers have no bass
@fantaseditings3017
@fantaseditings3017 5 жыл бұрын
DJekrom no you can find an e planari in in physics
@djekrom3286
@djekrom3286 5 жыл бұрын
@@fantaseditings3017 what is an e planari?
@SamToz
@SamToz 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, he didn’t wire the speakers out of phase, so every 3 speakers are fighting on pressure...
@nvxq
@nvxq 4 жыл бұрын
@@djekrom3286 you mean flip 1
@navjotsingh0006
@navjotsingh0006 5 жыл бұрын
Great work mate, people are still reviewing things on there youtube channels but here you are with new ideas and videos which are entertaining and informative at same time and interesting to watch...
@mr_duraes
@mr_duraes 5 жыл бұрын
Before the sound test, I thought the charge 4 modified will cut the bass and the loudness but after I was impressed for the loudness. I think you could put passive radiators on the front and back and the charge 4 modified is going to be better than the original. Good video and keep up with the good work
@JarodMoonchild1975
@JarodMoonchild1975 4 жыл бұрын
Came here from the video where you "killed" the PR's in the charge 4. And while you might have an accent, I was impressed how good everything looked in your place, and the video itself as well. And although you'd been better off watching a YT video showing how to disassemble the radiators without damage before you started, it was still an entertaining video to watch. But please wear protective eyewear when you do crazy experiments like that. No amount of views, trumps damaging your eyes.
@goransacirovic5568
@goransacirovic5568 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, for putting my comment in the video, I appreciate that.
@adrianornelas6447
@adrianornelas6447 4 жыл бұрын
You reduced the impedence of that speaker to 1.33 ohm.(3 4 ohm speakers in parallel equals 1.33) that increases the output power of the amp. That's why its louder.
@alizardtookmyvirginity6960
@alizardtookmyvirginity6960 5 жыл бұрын
Legit was just thinking about me doing that on my charge 4 and then I see this pop up in my feed
@officialhyperman
@officialhyperman 5 жыл бұрын
Before : good bass but kinda quite After : loud AF but less bass
@bennyw.9771
@bennyw.9771 5 жыл бұрын
You are connecting 3 speakers in parallel. This does reduce the resistance much so the amplifier could be destroyed (charge 3 board). Please be aware of that! This time it worked but it could destroy the board.
@dbermont
@dbermont 5 жыл бұрын
what about phase? is that a thing to consider about this experiment?
@bennyw.9771
@bennyw.9771 5 жыл бұрын
@@dbermont of course the phase is also important because if a speaker is out of phase (wrong connection, positive and negative is confound) it will not make bass. If on driver is connected wrong, it will move in, when the other drivers move out, so the speaker can not create pressure which is needed for bass.
@arvis3run
@arvis3run 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah could have a problem, but it definitely has d class amplifier that is more efficient. At least for me I've never had issue with using even 1 ohm load on small bt speaker amp.
@bimmer-elo
@bimmer-elo 5 жыл бұрын
When he did that sneeze that’s what she said thing I subbed right away I laughed so hard
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Andreina910120
@Andreina910120 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job dude, i have an jbl charge 3 that got wet inside, I recycle the battery, but with this know I can recycle the speakers and put them into another jbk
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
the drivers in there are quite a bit big but they might fit into an Xtreme. Good luck
@shagga070
@shagga070 5 жыл бұрын
It got wet and you recycle the battery.. 🤣
@Andreina910120
@Andreina910120 5 жыл бұрын
@@shagga070 👍
@AamAdmi100
@AamAdmi100 4 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington I am really impressed with your GBL charge for yours
@alizardtookmyvirginity6960
@alizardtookmyvirginity6960 5 жыл бұрын
Also, I see everyone talking about how before it had deeper bass, and this isn’t true, it’s the same speakers but with a passive radiator, it acts as a turbo charger for the lower frequency, extending the bass frequency on the speaker, so yes it sounds better, but in reality it’s all pushing the same bass (for people who don’t know what a passive radiator is) this is why when u turn up the volume the deep seems to go away. The passive radiators are supposed to deepen the bass at lower levels say 20-30hz per say
@gavinwise9935
@gavinwise9935 5 жыл бұрын
It would have more bass if you hooked up the small drivers out of phase with the large one. Having them in phase creates more pressure to work against, but out of phase, the pressure should be more equal because as the top speaker retracts the outside ones expand, allowing more travel on the driver and more bass. It would be hard to get the bass as good as the passive drivers though.
@gabrielvieira6529
@gabrielvieira6529 5 жыл бұрын
Can you put high excursion drivers in the sides and put a Passive Radiator in the place of the "original" woofer to be a passive radiator in the "middle"?
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 5 жыл бұрын
Might suffer punch bc of side directional speaker lack of clarity/spread.. But I like where you're going!
@narendrairengbam112
@narendrairengbam112 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a creative project. I thought it would sound louder because of the 3 drivers but the bass would decrease considerably due to the lack of PRs but hey, the bass also increased considerably along with the volume. Nice. Speaker companies should start adopting this technique on their new products. Nice job.
@iglooproductions
@iglooproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been better to add only one driver from the flip, plus the amp from the flip, and the passive radiator left alone on one side. The bass and sound would have been amazing.
@remurmatthews4485
@remurmatthews4485 5 жыл бұрын
U should try low frequency mode on the modified one
@jmd6813
@jmd6813 5 жыл бұрын
The modified one is not airtight anymore that's why the original's bass is better.
@SamToz
@SamToz 5 жыл бұрын
JM D yes
@theearthisbread
@theearthisbread 4 жыл бұрын
It is or otherwise you’d hear some distortion. The side drivers just produce bass at the exact same as the main drivers at the front. That’s why there’s almost no bass.
@anthonyvolkman2338
@anthonyvolkman2338 5 жыл бұрын
You also must take into account that the Passive Radiators are much larger than the drivers used to replace the PRs. Also another thing to remember is is that a passive radiator moves in the opposing direction of the active driver therein. While replacing the PRs with an active set of drivers means that all cone area is moving in the same direction while it's built to have a type of amplification of air movement inside the enclosure from the PRs moving in the opposite direction. Plus all speaker were in parallel which loads the internal amplifier more than it should be which causes distortion and clipping at lower volumes than normal.
@ampguy6920
@ampguy6920 4 жыл бұрын
When are you going to put them out of phase and see how they sound???
@leonmac
@leonmac 5 жыл бұрын
the reason it has no bass is that all the air that the speakers are making doesnt have a way to come out of the speaker, just drill a hole onto the speaker for the bass to come out and you will see good resaults
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
🤔 You do make a good point. I will leave that up to the person who wins it. But i dig your idea
@leonmac
@leonmac 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington thanks man 😉👌 love your videos ❤
@bigpoggy8674
@bigpoggy8674 5 жыл бұрын
The original charge 4 doesnt also have any way of air coming out of the speaker, what are you talking about?
@andrespadilla6735
@andrespadilla6735 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigpoggy8674 Yes, it does. The charge 4 uses the air produced by the principal driver to move the passive radiators. It hasn't a hole to let it out, but the air complies a specific function.
@bigpoggy8674
@bigpoggy8674 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrespadilla6735 but those are out of phase, if you have speakers moving the same direction at the same time, it creates more air pressure, thus, giving it better bass
@craggy_match275
@craggy_match275 5 жыл бұрын
It's like you went I my brain I was thinking about that for years
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I went into your brain 🤔🤣
@kerrybenthum2607
@kerrybenthum2607 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there it's better to leave the passive radiators and add the flip speakers facing upwards
@totibikes2892
@totibikes2892 5 жыл бұрын
How about putting a passive radiator on the right side beside the original speaker to improve bass more
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 5 жыл бұрын
Or leave the PR's and put the smaller speaker/s on the left side of the single racetrack driver? Even if one was placed on the upside or other side. Sure there will be more folks trying mods similarly soon. We'll see!
@rawwdyrichh3741
@rawwdyrichh3741 5 жыл бұрын
Like the pulse 4?
@AMIGA79
@AMIGA79 5 жыл бұрын
What i think before the soundcheck was even the result in the Soundcheck: Way more open mids, but the Bass can not completely compensate the movement from the membranes. The original passive radiators do that, but now the air pressure works against the flip-drivers and they produces air movement too. So it’s normal to get small interferences, the bass can’t work correctly. Also the overall tuning doesn’t fit any more. For me the Charge and also the Flip are not really good speakers. A mix if both don’t make it better. JBL has to tune the Speakers better, that should be no Problem because the hardware is ok. So if JBL would simply change the sound signature i would give them a chance. So many fans say that the bass on the JBLs is great, but it’s not. Bass and hights is all you hear, but both not well defined, not strong. The Charge looses in Mids and Stage. The Flip looses in harsh metallic hissing hights and thin bass at higher levels. So it makes no sense to mix that. Very interesting video and i really like and enjoy your comparisons, but pity about the time invested in this test project. ✌🏻
@oktawianjuszczak5178
@oktawianjuszczak5178 5 жыл бұрын
Ur my bro
@fullsend9857
@fullsend9857 5 жыл бұрын
Hearing it through my beats by drey the charge 4 modified I could definitely hear a differences it was louder and also the beat had a bigger hit than the charge 4 original. Great job!!!
@jujuboof2465
@jujuboof2465 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you say beats by drey😂😂😂😂
@emils3279
@emils3279 5 жыл бұрын
poor jbl charge 4 😭😭😭
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
It's fine 😁
@rawwdyrichh3741
@rawwdyrichh3741 5 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington Can u give It to me
@szymeq3116
@szymeq3116 5 жыл бұрын
@@rawwdyrichh3741 no
@rawwdyrichh3741
@rawwdyrichh3741 5 жыл бұрын
@@szymeq3116 *Visible frustration
@countrythatsit7045
@countrythatsit7045 5 жыл бұрын
The one problem is that all of the drivers are in the same box. The original driver is way bigger with the others so the original is going to mess with the output of the other 2
@Diogo-mi9tm
@Diogo-mi9tm 5 жыл бұрын
original: bass not so pure sound mod: clean sound no basss
@gregorybarron2203
@gregorybarron2203 5 жыл бұрын
What’s happening is that air pressure from the main driver is used to power the passive radiators. Now that you have the flip drivers in it, the air pressure in the cabinet is trying to woof the flip drivers but the drivers themselves are trying to woof against the main driver. So what I would do is either cut power to the flip drivers or reverse the polarities to the flip drivers.
@DareDevilPhil
@DareDevilPhil 5 жыл бұрын
For more bass (I know bass isn't all that matters, but it's fun), you'd have to extend the ends of the enclosure and add larger passive raditors. There'd be a bit of trial and error (or maybe calculation if you're smarter than me), to get the right resonance from the larger PR. More surface area tends to mean better efficiency (or dB/W), which these portable speakers really benefit from. Hope yourself or someone else does this, I'd be really interested in the results.
@derSkedda
@derSkedda 5 жыл бұрын
The amp will struggle a lot because of the lower impedance.
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
You're not exactly right. The lower impedance allows more power to be driven into the speakers. High impedance speakers make amps work harder to create the same level of sound pressure.
@derSkedda
@derSkedda 5 жыл бұрын
@@PhaQ2 the amp can only output so much power at a given impedance and the lower the impedance the higher your risk is to overdrive the amp because it can output more. More than it can handle.
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
@@derSkedda Sorry but I can attached a 1000 watt speaker to a 3 watt amp and nothing is ever going to happen. Your logic is flawed.
@derSkedda
@derSkedda 5 жыл бұрын
@@PhaQ2 I never said anything like that. And I know what you said. I try to explain it to you with examples. I've got an amplifier that puts out 50w RMS at 8ohms it handles putting out 100w RMS. So at 4ohms its fine. But at 2ohms it could potentially (theoretically) put out 200w which it doesn't handle. You understood?
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
@@derSkedda I getchya, but that's why I started this with, *You're not exactly right.* If your amp is 50 watts R.M.S. and peaks at 100 watts. There is no amount of impedance that will suddenly make your amp output 200 watt peak. All you're doing is allowing the amp to output peak power, easier. Increasing the chance of amp failure.
@Soup.Dragon
@Soup.Dragon 5 жыл бұрын
Try fitting low pass filters on the added speakers and a port if there isn't an existing one seeing as you have removed the passive radiators.
@Ronabel23
@Ronabel23 5 жыл бұрын
Of course...If you still haven't bought any of them and are considering buying a charge 4 + Flip for this mod....You could just get an Xtreme 2. Louder, Stereo and Best of all, More bass ;)
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Xtreme 2 definitely better than this build. This is not for everyone i believe :)
@texemplarstudios5481
@texemplarstudios5481 5 жыл бұрын
I would assume that with the modified one, though, it won't sound good since air can't get out and move. It will compress inside and not allow the speakers to move as much, right?
@marqlutmarquez8490
@marqlutmarquez8490 4 жыл бұрын
nice work dude! cool 3d printing
@vitrytir9062
@vitrytir9062 5 жыл бұрын
You should make a bass reflex for better performance. It doesnt matter, because it isnt waterproof anymore
@robr2280
@robr2280 4 жыл бұрын
Original sounds clean. The modded one sounds distorted. But it’s a cool way to salvage speakers if both were down and you could make one working speaker.
@gregstt
@gregstt 5 жыл бұрын
The modified one sounds more dull and has less bass. I also noticed you could hear the flip speakers peaking at times and making a small crackle. It's a cool project but I would suggest maybe replacing the flip speakers with subwoofers and maybe adding a tweeter beside the big driver in the front to provide those crisp highs.
@AtlasCompleXtheProd
@AtlasCompleXtheProd 3 жыл бұрын
You can link them right? I wanna link these
@Natural_Aspiration
@Natural_Aspiration 5 жыл бұрын
We want more like these..
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, more reasonable mods like this Wellington!
@lexchsn1
@lexchsn1 5 жыл бұрын
It was funny when he said,”that’s what she said”,right after he said that it was too big for the hole 2:50-2:57😂😂
@AMIGA79
@AMIGA79 5 жыл бұрын
🥳 Congratulations to 40K 🥂
@jpzanabria
@jpzanabria 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is due to the phase, did you invert the polarity of LG speakers? The project is very interesting in Christian, when the speaker kicks out, the radiators kick in, so since the radiators don't have power it doesn't need to do anything else, LG speakers need to reverse the polarity
@Rockband2991
@Rockband2991 5 жыл бұрын
Try the speakers in bass mode by holding the volume down and Bluetooth buttons at the same time till you see the light change once then you let go.
@kingkwasi6303
@kingkwasi6303 3 жыл бұрын
The gap was that big in terms of the bass because of the way you connected the speakers, change the wiring and the sound would be cleaner and deeper
@poopenshnapples7160
@poopenshnapples7160 2 жыл бұрын
Solid video! I just did this with the worst sounding boombox i have ever heard. The Toshiba TY-CWU500. Put in old JVC speakers firing forward and the crap speakers out to the sides. Toshiba decided to use +/- 30 gauge wires, so stripping and soldering them was an annoying chore!
@LivinLoudwithAndy
@LivinLoudwithAndy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes because air space is key in an enclosure and the radiator reacts like a ported enclosure- so when you removed them you turned it into a sealed enclosure and divided the air space
@tsilfidis1996
@tsilfidis1996 3 жыл бұрын
i hope you connected the wires backwards on the small speakers so when the main speaker push out they pull in!
@loganhealy5320
@loganhealy5320 5 жыл бұрын
Just a tip a speaker need to have a flacuating point or a space for air to escape creating a deeper note that's why when U have your boosters on the standard one it sounds deeper than the modified one
@VibeMusic996
@VibeMusic996 5 жыл бұрын
the modified one is having much treble than the modified one if u hear closely but otherwise both looks good
@VibeMusic996
@VibeMusic996 5 жыл бұрын
also the sound quality of the modified one is not good actually its loud but not clear
@AtlasCompleXtheProd
@AtlasCompleXtheProd 3 жыл бұрын
Making one with two drivers and one bass radiator would be amazing
@przeczochrany
@przeczochrany 5 жыл бұрын
You connected additional drivers in phase - wrong! Switch + and - on the additional drivers. It should work in counterphase (when main goes in, those should go out).
@djcmtandtheforestdreamsoft8245
@djcmtandtheforestdreamsoft8245 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna to lie it looks super cool
@theearthisbread
@theearthisbread 4 жыл бұрын
If Jbl replaced their prs with actual drivers, they could tune the replaced prs (now drivers) with bass and the front speakers with only mids and treble. That would prevent distortion and make the sound cleaner and possibly louder. They don’t do it and there’s most likely a very good reason for that. I hope jbl can do this one day in the future as it would make their speakers way better.
@kevincontreras6472
@kevincontreras6472 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds good on the higher notes but not the best in bass as you said and you should try to make the extra side drivers have some material around the sides to have a radiator or have the drivers themselves move as a passive radiators.
@stijnzxzpalsss9808
@stijnzxzpalsss9808 5 жыл бұрын
I love ur vids man! im subs for years on this channel i think :)
@truthbespoken7750
@truthbespoken7750 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. Modify did you have the JBL Charge3/ 4 Plus 360* raffle yet ? In so any idea when, approximately how many can enter the raffle for this Amazing one of a kind speaker ? Your speaker subbed fan who loves modify something better to the way it should have been made.... Dave from Rhode Island
@abhishekuchil7540
@abhishekuchil7540 5 жыл бұрын
Just a question Y don't u do any off the wired speakers unboxing or reviewing like home theatre's or soundbars,coz i would like to see u doing it there are few who deos it bt.they don't go deep into the details & dont hv knowledge like u do... there is lot competition between companies like sony,yamaha,jbl sound bars, Philips, logitech pioneer etc...
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
I might in the future
@cetheral1881
@cetheral1881 5 жыл бұрын
What if you only added one speaker to it and had a passive radiator on the other side, or you could replace it’s original driver with a massive passive radiator and leave the flip speakers on the side.
@emonhasan4032
@emonhasan4032 5 жыл бұрын
you look like kanye west that was bought from ali express
@maxemir7677
@maxemir7677 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@vladislavbulat5205
@vladislavbulat5205 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@TheTopMostDog
@TheTopMostDog 4 жыл бұрын
Just smarter. :)
@EazyRed
@EazyRed 4 жыл бұрын
r/rareinsults
@djpatrikk
@djpatrikk 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of putting a passive radiator in a box that size is to make the little speaker sound like a much bigger woofer. Replacing the passive radiators with even smaller speakers will never improve the bass. It will sound louder but it will not sound deeper. A lot of engineering went into designing these type of speakers to put out the biggest amount of power and low frequency information. And yes, you will blow the amp sooner or later by attaching these extra speakers thus lowering the impedance and overheating the amplifier till it fries.
@michaeln984
@michaeln984 4 жыл бұрын
I love the experiment. Crossover will cut the bass to the flip drivers.. You could use just one of the two passive radiators, or use more powerful speakers from a Charge 2 or 3? I'm considering an upgrade from my original Charge, so thanks for all the reviews..
@chivasgio3259
@chivasgio3259 4 жыл бұрын
Type of listeners wants: 1. Loudness ( usually available speakers ) 2. Clarity ( high quality speakers ) 3. Stereo effect ( can be experienced from low quality speakers ) 4. Bass performer ( limited quality speakers ) Portable Jbl focused on loud and clear bass performance, if you buy 2 jbl will have stereo effect... That is the reason of jbl connect feature...
@1234mattyman
@1234mattyman 5 жыл бұрын
The original JBL unmodified has way more bass as I think it may be better sealed but the modified version still sounds good just lacks a little bass.
@wardbox6453
@wardbox6453 4 жыл бұрын
The bass is bad because the air pressure can't escape anywhere which is why the original one has the passive radiators You can fix that by placing a rectangular or round or square passive radiator on the back and/or next to the big active driver Also plz like this comment so DLX sees this
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 4 жыл бұрын
Was thinking about putting a condom where the passive radiators were 🤔 Some people have suggested it😆
@wardbox6453
@wardbox6453 4 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington would be awesome to see a video with that jbl charge 4 (if you still have it) with the passieve radiators
@wardbox6453
@wardbox6453 4 жыл бұрын
@@DLXWillington and u can kind of fix the problem that the flip drivers get too many Watts by putting these in series instead of parralel so they get 15 Watts each
@TheAscendedTechNinja
@TheAscendedTechNinja 5 жыл бұрын
The name should be JBL charge 4 project DLX
@toddlee2571
@toddlee2571 3 жыл бұрын
You might consider adding some stuffing (cotton or poly fill) to tame the standing wave inside the module. Also, adding additional drivers to the internal amp will reduce total impedance which could damage the amp.
@griffingibson4389
@griffingibson4389 3 жыл бұрын
Hot tip: you can really put a nice finish onto your 3D prints by suspending them in a container with acetone present. The acetone fumes will react with your 3D prints and give them a smooth finish.
@ProDigit80
@ProDigit80 Жыл бұрын
You probably want to try to put the side speakers in reverse polarity, to see if they don't add to the bass.
@HadeZStudios
@HadeZStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Its actually reverse thinking, it hurts a speaker more to under power it then it does overpower it..huge misconception..also this would have worked it you found a way to make the flip drivers out of phase with the main driver..but what it comes down to is not having the wattage distribution the main driver took a certain amount of wattage, and you add two more drivers to that they will be underpowered regardless of them only being 5 watts, just because you have 30watts on a unit, adding drivers doesn't give all of them 30 watts...you would need to separate the 3 drivers into 3 channels...a LCR configuration would be ideal but really just give you surround basically a little soundbar.. awesome video buddy 👍 was fun watching, your mod actually looked really great
@vtecnegro85
@vtecnegro85 4 жыл бұрын
To make it louder you could have used bluetooth amplifier receicer to it or the phone. or like I did, just downloaded amplifier application. :)
@215alessio
@215alessio 4 жыл бұрын
the mod has a more open sound, all spectrum is covered but sounds too flat. necessity of an equaliser to dim a bit the mids
@sandijsliepins104
@sandijsliepins104 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone please help me find red flip 6 both passive radiators for me to change because the silicone is chipping off and making it unestetical?
@aliforde7155
@aliforde7155 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think or know if there are different models of charge 4 giving different performances? I know the flip 5 has different models
@elias8676
@elias8676 5 жыл бұрын
It sounded like the vocals got alot louder and clearer, sane with the midrange, all around alot nicer to listen to
@wewillbewild891
@wewillbewild891 5 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you about the sound
@terique69
@terique69 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a pretty cool idea, JBL Charge with 2.1 virtual surround channel
@martinlavric4955
@martinlavric4955 5 жыл бұрын
I think it sounds better!Of coure,it does not have much bass,but for my taste (for my music taste)thats good...I love the mids from the modified one.
@nene0826
@nene0826 4 жыл бұрын
reading thru comments plus my experience... I feel JBL should fabricate different octave versions so when plug together brings an ultimate concert experience
@crescenciojohnmichaelp.8008
@crescenciojohnmichaelp.8008 5 жыл бұрын
From modified the bass is nasty, I mean is fading but the treble is increasing. It feels like it needs a Passive Crossover, because Frequency are fighting to each other.
@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki 5 жыл бұрын
As many mentioned before...second thing after "power needs"/"impedence" is "polarity" ...side speakers "Fight" with center either compresing or sucking air inside. Same goes for any speaker or subwoofer...play with polarity (+,-) and update the video!
@doublemartini6645
@doublemartini6645 4 жыл бұрын
and also...bigger speaker shares the same small airtight space with smaller speakers a actually goes against them. Opposite direction than woofers do... They are fighting each other more and more towards bass spectrum. We have heard the result...
@ryanverwey2589
@ryanverwey2589 5 жыл бұрын
you know the dust cap is pressed?
@phoenixyt124
@phoenixyt124 5 жыл бұрын
This idea is so creative wtf..
@seanmohamad5701
@seanmohamad5701 5 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of charge4 modified more, its clear and more energetic. Fun and clear music. If there is room for bass enclosure would be nicer
@tonitelaoag
@tonitelaoag 5 жыл бұрын
great experiment , unlike us you have 2 units to tinker with
@jbltester1458
@jbltester1458 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good and louder
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
definitely louder 👍
@lucasmcl
@lucasmcl 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to add a low pass filter on the main driver. Also im guessing with the speaker designed for a single driver porting the enclosure might actually allow the speakers to move more freely and increase the bass.
@ricardocesar505
@ricardocesar505 5 жыл бұрын
Man oh man,willington you are becoming a jbl destroyer/dismounter🤣
@DLXWillington
@DLXWillington 5 жыл бұрын
And modifier 🤣
@jblbassoff
@jblbassoff 5 жыл бұрын
Hey!
@ricardocesar505
@ricardocesar505 5 жыл бұрын
@@jblbassoff hi
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, he is on to something bruh. Keep it up Wellington!
@djijspeakerguy4628
@djijspeakerguy4628 4 жыл бұрын
That camo charge is likely extremely different inside. They have three revisions on the actual hardware.
@S10_Operator
@S10_Operator Жыл бұрын
They changed software on each color?
@djijspeakerguy4628
@djijspeakerguy4628 Жыл бұрын
@@S10_Operator No, only the actual components vary between factories, and some factories produce different colors than others. The software (or firmware in this case) is the same if you buy them at the same time.
@truthbespoken7750
@truthbespoken7750 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely alot louder with more mids and highs. Watch JBL come out with a Charge 5+ with this type of setup.
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