DM NERFS Girls DnD Character For Being Male | r/rpghorrorstories

[@AJ-hu4ig]

Why do bad DMs do this? "I don't like your character, so instead of working with you to compromise, I'm gonna single you out, destroy the game, and ruin my reputation."

[@vegeta002]

Ego, I'd wager. People who think their reputation is unimpeachable and only think about their own opinions (or whoever they're simping for) usually feel they can do anything they want without consequence, or that everyone will be on their side.

[@alanbear6505]

Low Wisdom score at work.

[@leguan278]

I have a player who’s character i dont like, but its pretty harmless otherwise. I could never dream of doing anything like this

[@faeb.9618]

it's about control

[@informitas0117]

I know this one! Because it's a excrement-level DM isn't it?

[@alphons1456o]

One of the comments on Reddit definitely sums up the hypocrisy. "Oversized swords are unrealistic, but it can be picked up by a random barmaid and smashed to the ground easily!"

[@unluckyone1655]

That's what I was wondering. Unless that barmaid was an ogre

[@JacobL228]

Furthermore, if it's made of such legendary materials that it costs 9,000 gp just for a simple repair job, how can she smash it to pieces so easily?

[@Ed_man_talking9]

I'm no DM but I would allow it, i would give it a +3AC, a bonus D12 for extra bludgeoning damage, and each attack moves the player and the medium enemy one tile in the attack's direction, any enemy smaller gets moved 3 spaces back and get knocked prone, and it counts as both a polearm and a great weapon. but enemies can dodge it with advantage and take another bonus action if the player fails a high challenge athletics check,

[@solosynapse]

​@@Ed_man_talking9That's a lot. 3.5 had rules for oversized weapons, and they were mostly reasonable.

[@HentaiTrapLord]

​@@unluckyone1655WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY BAR, DONKEH!?

[@destroyerinazuma96]

I'd argue it's 20% egotistical GM and 80% GM fearing his darling would throw a tantrum if anyone's "outperforming" her.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

More specifically the only other woman at the table doing so, I think that was definitely the key aspect

[@pippo17173]

In other words, a massive door mat of a simp.

[@gimok2k5]

Den of the Drake covered it, and apparently between Doge and Drake, an Edit was added. The GM actually texted other players at some point after the OP left, and turns out: The GM was plain sexist and hated that the OP dressed up in t-shirt and jeans outside of work (Casual Business was mandatory during work).

[@mirageowl]

@@gimok2k5 wtf

[@jackofastora8962]

@@gimok2k5damn, I guess he really was just THAT mad that a woman dare not play a female character

[@burtonmoore996]

Ok story #2 sounds like a hit job. A bar maid getting ale spilled on her should be near daily. Also, why is she wearing her best clothing to work? Then she slaps away free gold. Then, like a psychopath, steals his sword and breaks it. The guards arrest the player for trying to save his backstory gear. The cherry on top, the DM has the audacity to call his character unrealistic? Get the hell outa there!

[@travisbishop782]

Her character. Billy was targating her because she was playing a male character, or so it would seem.

[@PrimusSwallows]

"Martial-arts expert who uses spiritual energy to punch people with the force of a gunshot? You're good." "Musician who can bend the fabric of reality by playing an instrument? You're good." "Pyromancer who can sense magic and is half-dragon, or something like that? You're good." "WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH, is that a guy with a big sword? I'm sorry buddy, but that's a bit too unrealistic."

[@travisbishop782]

@@PrimusSwallows i know, right?

[@sandpiperr]

Ha! That was my thought too! She wore her Sunday best to tend bar? That doesn't make sense!

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

DM is not just a clown, they're a whole goddamn circus.

[@spykewyn8395]

No kidding! Does that mean we get to break him into pieces and ship him across the country?

[@KyurekiHana]

Man, the attempt at gaslighting there at the end really made me angry. That DM just wanted an audience to how awesome and cool he and his wife were. People like him destroy the ability for TTRPGs to grow.

[@shadowfan115]

I feel that I hate being introduced to a game and immediately getting shit stomped for trying to survive my biggest example of this is in MTG where I was playing grull werewolves in commander and had to use Bloodmoon or else I was dead in the water everyone immediately targeted me including the person who got me to try the game

[@WyntheRogue]

It's a damn shame as I've played with couples who could go without preferential treatment towards one another [gamewise obvi] and stories like this create a negative stigma.

[@monochromegoggles4265]

Yeah, no, you only need to look at how things ended for OP's first character to know the DM was not going to keep up the nice act for long. Op's character has his stuff stolen, a precious cultural heirloom damaged, gets a KNIFE pulled on him in broad daylight, and defends himeslf when assaulted, with his group corroborating his story. When OP decided to change her character to appease the DM, the DM didn't send off her character pleasant, he narrated how her character gets shipped off to FANTASY ALCATRAZ on an assault charge for self defense, and gets shivved in prison. Sure, ok, yeah, the DM TOTALLY wasn't stringing along OP to make an example of her while gaslighting her into thinking she was still welcome. What a prick.

[@daggern15]

In the situation where he was 'apologising' I'd've said if you're sorry, we'll go back in there and you'll retcon the entire night as well as the previous BS debuffs instead of changing character. That sad egotist was pathetically out of order and honestly, some shame on the other players for not speaking up sooner when it was obvious what was happening.

[@TailAbNormal]

I love it when people try to say something is unrealistic in a game with fire-breathing dragons and literal magic.

[@travisbishop782]

Hell, i would have allowed it.

[@osets2117]

Right?

[@AndrewBrownK]

you can contest athletics checks with creatures one size larger than you, but can't effectively wield an oversized weapon. You can tackle and pin a horse, but not swing a zweihander without tripping on yourself.

[@johnstein7789]

@@AndrewBrownK also, this dm... has he ever heard of montante? Ya know, a sword that was actually in combat daily use, unlike beloved longswods and rapiers and such

[@MayHugger]

An ancient dragon can go to move past a gnome wizard with a -2 in strength and a tiny rusted dagger but be physically unable to move after the wizard gently pricks them.

[@abbygleeson420]

near the start of the barmaid encounter i was kind of expecting dm to say something like "see, you really CAN'T roleplay a male character, no man would turn down a beautiful woman like that!" and i honestly cant decide whether or not what actually happened is worse lmao

[@starofjustice1]

Well, I wouldn't sleep with a truck stop waitress no matter how hot she is. If I can't resist, neither can any other guy, and this is the kind of DM who'd say I woke up the next day with sword-and-sorcery herpes.

[@travisbishop782]

It was definitely worse.

[@TheCrazydude17]

Would likely have been a nightmare anyway. Why flirt with the only woman at the table aside from your damn WIFE? If OP had reciprocated, it would have gone awfully.

[@sandpiperr]

Yeah I thought that's where that was going too.

[@Qwerty95ish]

"Don't surprise me again" got me. As a happy forever DM I love it when my players surprise me, it's one of the reasons I love DMing.

[@TheCrazydude17]

THIS. I am a writer, have been for most of my life, so it frustrates me to hear people say someone should "Just write a book" instead of running a game. But I do get it. As a writer, I greatly prefer D&D over writing a static story, because a competent group of roleplayers spin a living narrative. They do things you might never think to have characters do. And they think as individuals.

[@solosynapse]

Especially since he was "surprised" with the character abilities he'd already looked at & approved.

[@bodypiercingbytom]

If a pc wielding an oversized weapon is enough to ruin your entire world, that world needs some serious editing, lol.

[@TheCrazydude17]

LOL, seriously! It wasn't even magical. At all. It wasn't even a Large longsword or greatsword, which would do even more damage.

[@WhyYouMadBoi]

@@TheCrazydude17 Actually large bastard sword does 2d8, large longsword does 2d6 and you can't wield large greatswords with just the core materials of pathfinder. So large bastardsword would be the most damaging out of them. Also some large weapons wouldn't fit every world, even with dragons and the like. Its all aesthetics and stuff. Like two handed weapons would be the size of the wielder. So a large sword would be around 8 feet minimum to 16 ft maximum. You can look at all of the Medieval weaponary side of youtube to the size of a 8 ft to 16 foot sword would be like. Not defending this shithead DM actions at all but more or less the large weapon thing. Which I mean its in the game use it.

[@nathanizabeast]

Big sword? I always think berserk and how lame it would have been if Miura gave Guts a toothpick instead of the Dragonslayer.

[@tarvoc746]

I mean if it's e. g. a bronze age world, I can see how that could cause issues with the intended flavor of the setting. But you can easily resolve that by talking to your players and being open about what you want to do.

[@TheFuriousScribbles]

No oversized swords? That's a weird issue for a GM to have in Pathfinder in particular. One of the Iconics is a Barbarian that has a sword that's so huge she can't use it unless she's raging. Small potatoes compared to the GM targeting a player, still weird though.

[@samurailevi49]

Pathfinder was my first ever TTRPG game and I had no idea it was iconic. I just thought it would be funny if he held a giant sword nobody could realistically carry.

[@brother-tico4363]

She should've had left that game after loosing her first character. And the gaslighting in the end from this That Guy DM really triggered me >:( He even got the balls to lie to everyone... just wow... But don't worry OP: Karma will hit him and his wife one day when he finds out that nobody wants to play with him anymore or they don't get invited to a TTRPG session.

[@ShyBiiteVT]

Honestly, I'd invite them to a session just so I could do to them what they did here. Give them both a taste of their own rotten medicine.

[@Creshosk]

Should have left after the cursed ring incident. It should have been pretty clear that she was being targeted at that point.

[@Klaital1]

Tbh she should have left after the first session at the latest, I might have already left before the first session after the huge red flags in the dm telling all that crap about how a girl can't properly rp a dumb dude.

[@ClipperHorizon]

As a female gamer, I ALWAYS start with a male human character when I join a new table. If these two simple character choices cause any problems ("you need to play a guuurl!" "humans are boring!") I politely excuse myself. It's surprising how many GM/table issues basic build choices can reveal.

[@solosynapse]

Good policy.

[@MadMage1993]

Same. I have noticed that it's a safe bet until you get to know your party more. My first character is a male human sorcerer of the divine soul subclass. Second is a male humanoid bee fighter with dual blades.

[@TigerKirby215]

That DM wasn't running a Pathfinder campaign. They were doing a one-on-one roleplay with their girlfriend and forced other people to watch. It's obvious that they'd get upset whenever someone "won" at the game or outshined his girlfriend. Chances are Nathan only got a pass as an old friend. The fact that everyone other than OP was new is also probably why she was targeted so much since she actually knew how to make interesting characters.

[@informitas0117]

Why on earth would a bar maid risk her life to destry a warrior's big expense sword over a spilled drink, something that must happen every other night? Oh right she wouldn't, backed up with no worldly reason. What a stupid way to do it, the DM has limitless ways to separate sword from PC and choses **this**? What a horrible DM. OP did everything correctly. Asked if character was ok DM - Yup! Asked if sword was ok DM - Yup! Asked is character was ok again DM - Yup! Uses character DM - Nuu cannot do >:0 *punishes ex machina style* Edit: wow I actually hate this sanctimonious dirt bag.

[@Klaital1]

Not to mention that somehow the supposedly average human strength bar maid was able to even lift, let alone swing around that huge over-sized sword, let alone with enough force to damage it.

[@Laihoistheman]

Dude after he called her a cheater I would have gone ape shit on him and made him cry, that's so fucked up.

[@AL4LVE79]

friends wife was playing a wizard and wanted to perform the action signature to the druid class " summon patron animal spirit " in a sense . general group agreed you cant do that insued . issue arose i pulled the DM aside with a idea he thought it was genius so then we pulled in the friend who wasnt on her side and got him on board to defuse the wife . she would be able to do that but would have to switch to druid as that fit her idea for the character . I HAD SAVED THE WEEKEND MARATHON DAY 1 . we breaked for her rewrite and level up . im going over spell selection and its clarified for being specialized i get a additional spell . her comment ... i was cheating . .... for all i had just done are you kidding .

[@BlazingKhioneus]

"Everyone here agrees that cheaters ruin the game for everyone." "You are absolutely right. That is why, I'm going to restore my character to how they were before you cheated and kneecapped them for no good reason. Afterall, cheaters ruin the game for everyone, right?"

[@brandonturner4113]

Technically he didn't cheat or fudge rules arresting him or breaking his sword. It was just very poor dming

[@andrwblood9162]

You can't complain about a power gaming player if you're being a power gaming dm

[@Wraithspartan]

DM didn't like the competition, I guess...

[@JangoFox]

Wow, this story got me so tilted. I hope Billy isn't playing the game anymore and can't find any players or DMs willing to deal with him and his bullshit.

[@brother-tico4363]

Yeah, I just hope that Karma will hit Billy and his wife after this fiasco of a campaign.

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Did anyone else just want to smack Billy into Oblivion?

[@Wraithspartan]

Oblivion as in Elder Scrolls Hell, or nothingness? Either sounds like an option, honestly.

[@hayuseen6683]

The Daedra don’t deserve to be forced to deal with that GM.

[@AL4LVE79]

back hand the wizard wife well at it . 👋

[@bristlebum2422]

Billy sounds insufferable, I would have left after the magic ring was trapped specifically to cripple my build

[@amitamaru]

That lie from Billy at the end really pissed me off.

[@starofjustice1]

Only that?

[@amitamaru]

@@starofjustice1 That was the one that had the most visceral reaction from me.

[@starofjustice1]

@@amitamaru lol don't blame you.

[@heatherharrison264]

This whole situation is a grinding mess. It shows the pitfalls of getting into social activities with people from work. If the social activity isn't going well, you may feel obligated to continue with it to avoid awkwardness or other problems at work. As a general rule, it is best to keep work and social life separate. Had this not been a game with coworkers, the OP might have felt free to get out of the bad situation earlier.

[@starofjustice1]

That's pretty much what I said.

[@johngleeman8347]

The worst part is that the OP's alchemist didn't ever outshine the sorcerer. How could they? The sorceress had an order of magnitude more magic items and a more optimized build than the middling alchemist. I thought it was great that the sorc and alchemist combo-killed the badguy. It was fantastic. But the Simpmaster, rather than rejoicing that his wife and coworker had a great moment of triumph in game, took it as a grave insult that the OP's character was able to be effective again. He and his wife are both cruel and petty c!@#s!

[@Curriation]

Is it awful of me to hope that the DM got dumped in the end? I don't mind if I'm called awful for thinking that.

[@TheCrazydude17]

He likely didn't. His queen is likely behind much of what happened, and even openly sabotaged Jourum.

[@snonyabeeswax]

one can only hope sorceror didnt seem to be the main problem

[@BlazingKhioneus]

@@snonyabeeswaxi highly doubt it since she was the one in the barmaid fight who just made the situation worse for jourom for no reason

[@PaintySkies]

holy shit, what a horrible human being. wanted to punch him more and more as the story went on lmao.. glad OP got a happy ending, but that shouldn't have happened in the first place and im glad some people stood up for them

[@Slugger1990]

same.

[@Vahktang]

Nathan comes in, using all the books and items tens of thousands of GP higher than everyone else? But I can’t bring in another character? Time to heroically sacrifice my current character and bring in his twin cousin.

[@shadenox8164]

Gonna have to disagree they talked it out like adults. The DM spat out some bullshit about it not being on purpose, like fucking hell it wasn't. What a crock. Then how he ended that character's story after she changed characters. Dude was far from an adult.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

I’m pretty sure Doge meant that talking it out was the adult thing to do

[@reiman1308]

As a dungeon master, it infuriate and vexes me as to why these people would do this to their players. Is it because they want dominant? Is it because they want to rule with an iron fist? Whatever it is, it is not a good way for a dungeon master to act towards his players. I'm all for talking to my players and finding a compromise. But clean favoritism and doing the things that this dungeon master is doing is a good way to make sure that people don't come back to your table and play..

[@phobiawitch835]

This entire story had me frustrated bith from remembering my own horror related to a PF1E DM, and listening to the growing menace that was the events of OP’s game. I actually had to pause for about 5 minutes to cool off the moment I heard “Leave your character sheets” as I KNEW what was about to happen. This is why I prefer digital sheets that people can see but not edit without permission. Because someone always tries this eventually

[@happybatty5142]

I have a DM who is keeping our character sheets at his place, but I've known him for years and I trust him. I wouldn't trust someone new, especially someone like this DM.

[@phobiawitch835]

@@happybatty5142 Agreed. It’s one thing to have a trusted person keeping them, especially if you’ve known them a long time. But between being coworkers and the DM having clear favorites and a clear target of their dislike, this guy should have never been left alone with the character sheets.

[@unluckyone1655]

I personally like physical sheets because of nostalgia. But I also keep my character sheet out in the open and visible so people can quick reference along with me with each roll

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

wow the dm really had it out for this guy. I would never treat my players like that.

[@nick-brothwood]

My DM would definitely tear billy a new one for being a crap DM.

[@JacobL228]

Not a guy; that's the reason.

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

@@JacobL228 true

[@REfan2002]

DM wanted the game to hard and rp active backstories. When OP was good at her character, DM targeted her.

[@JacobL228]

There are a lot of typos here, but from what I can glean, you're wrong; there were no backstories explored other than his wife's.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

it was barely even "she was specifically good" that triggered him, it was "she got a lucky roll that accidentally outshined this simp's wife"

[@Michaeljack81sk]

This wasn't painful to listen to, it was agonizing. Billy was a disgustingly abusive DM, his "apology" was utter BS and this story is a perfect example of No DnD being better than Bad DnD. OP might consider Bard, Monk and Nathan as friends but not a single one of them stood up for her while Billy blatantly and provably lied in front of them, if that's how she describes friends she really has some confidence issues

[@RowdyruffPrincess]

I mean they all also left the game and didnt want to continue. Just cause they didnt make a scene and yell at someone theyd have to see at work the next day doesnt mean they bought his story.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

@@RowdyruffPrincess I get you but there's a difference between shouting and causing a scene and simply saying "Dude, that's BS and you know it"

[@Wraithspartan]

​@@Michaeljack81skIn the story, they do repeatedly do just that throughout the campaign. There comes a point in interacting with someone who pulls stuff like this when you just roll your eyes, keep the bad words inside your head, and don't waste time or energy arguing out loud. You just move on.

[@lukaswithakay]

This woman has the patience of a saint.

[@bodypiercingbytom]

I'd make that Dm uncomfortable... "Okay, cool. So I keep my severed finger on a cord around my neck where everyone can see it. What can I say? I'm kind of attached to it..."

[@VadBlackwood]

Thing about gaslighting, when someone subtly tries to paint you into an unreasonable hysterical ass, you kind of end up trying to be on your best behavior - or else you're "confirming" it, you see. =\

[@bodypiercingbytom]

@@VadBlackwood Right. I'd call him out on it just the same. Especially if I was with a group, new or not.

[@Sanodi21]

I think it was already due to be a shitshow because the DM says he wants to do core rules because it's mostly noobs, only to whip out a critical fail table and have everyone watch a monk hit themselves below the belt? Seriously?

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

"Power gaming is poor taste" My dude, it's Pathfinder, it's always like that, the game is literally balanced around power gaming

[@Yangblaze11]

Yep I agree with this Pathfinder 1 is literally unplayable combat wise if you don't make at least a solid build for your character.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

@@Yangblaze11 Unless you're like me and you build characters who hard specialize in traps and explosives and shit like that to avoid fighting directly, but as OP found out, DMs like this hate that even more

[@Yangblaze11]

@@whensomethingcriesagain I find that funny as a player but depending on how you do it might be a pain as a DM overtime.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

@@Yangblaze11 The context behind it was that I got put in a Pathfinder game by my school tabletop club, then they made me play the fighter because they felt they needed one, and I absolutely hate the feat system in Pathfinder 1e, I utterly refused to deal with that system of optimization, so instead I decided to work around it

[@ShyBiiteVT]

This story really made my blood boil. I hope karma hits this DM hard.

[@iank472]

I'm leaning more towards a truck by the end.

[@wargriz8213]

Of all of the party, the DM decides it’s the fighter who is over powered? The fighter with low int and wis?

[@starofjustice1]

Stuff like this is why it takes a lot for me to socialize with coworkers after work. You could meet some amazing people, but if things go bad, you could be be dealing with that until one of you leaves your job.

[@unluckyone1655]

Yeah, best advice I got is don't befriend your co workers.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

I am surprised the other players didn't put their magic items back after the cursed ring.

[@animorph17]

They could tell that they weren't being specifically singled out with targeted bullshit. You'd only drop your own magic items if you're invested in the world and treating what happens as real.

[@CannonCROW95]

If I was ever a part of this group I would have called out every single thing that DM would have said and did. I hate when bad DMs that try and single anyone out, trying to make every problem about them or some how make it their fault. We're there and have fun playing D&D not to make someone feel unwanted.

[@kyuven]

The hilarious thing about the DM getting bent out of shape about that build is that OP basically copied it from Amiri, the Barbarian Iconic from PF1e. Meaning she was not only going by the rules as written when making the character, but I'd even go so far as to say rules as intended, since the iconics are meant to symbolize how the game characters are meant to be created. And this includes the oversized bastard sword, as that's meant to demonstrate how sizing on weapons works. I also wonder which cavalier order Nathan belonged to...the DM clearly demonstrated why keeping things to the core rulebook is sometimes a good idea if you don't understand a class's ins and outs.

[@TigerKirby215]

I will never understand DMs with the mentality of: *"Your character is too strong!"* "Okay I can just play a different character." *"No no it's okay."* _One session later._ *"Ha ha I'm targeting your character exclusively! Fuck you for making an overpowered character and refusing to change it!"*

[@lareth87]

19:19 I have a strong hunch that his previous campaign didn't actually "wrap up" as he claimed.

[@shadiafifi54]

Yeah, this was a complete mess of a game. Pity OP had to go through that, but it seems the rest of the players (sans Sorcerer, obviously) were pretty cool and just bailed when it was clear Billy was being an ass. And it seems OP got a better gaming group eventually.

[@SamWeltzin]

I was mildly furious this entire reading. Jesus. Glad OP got out of there eventually and that most people saw what a shit the GM was being.

[@alexsullivan323]

I got half way threw this before work. I wouldn't be surprised if the gf was controlling the dm. She stopped op which in away was good. But how she turned on op was crazy. Like they all saw the barmaid smashing the sword.

[@shadowfan115]

Sad to say that wasn't the case the DM was basically just trying to be sexist and allowed metagaming by his wife

[@unluckyone1655]

Honestly the both sound awful and totally deserve each other

[@ringspecies]

The moment the ring shennanigan hapened, I'd have checked out right away.

[@dragonmasterknight7]

From part 1 this sounds like a story of a DM with ego problem who plays favorites. DND is a game of imagination at it's core. This means people are allowed to play as opposite genders and sexualities. It's also a game meant to played as equals. Giving individual players special treatment or singling out another is just bs on the DM's end. Not to mention the special treatment is given to a significant other which is a whole other issue in itself.

[@pulsefel9210]

DM can't handle a cleave

[@AvatAR42420]

Billy just seemed to hate OP. I don't really understand this bullying. It makes it worse for everyone.

[@paulman34340]

Likely ego and the fact that his wife was not being the center of attention! But the idiot never seemed to understand don't eat where you shit. In this case don't bully people you have to work with on a daily basis In front of Other coworkers as well. That's like the quickest way to be on everybody's shit list. He would have been better off looking for randos. At least then if they left or had disagreement with him It would have no major effect Outside the game. But nope idiot decided to pretty much sink whatever reputation he had among the coworkers. The game was over after that spectacle, Idiot likely assumed that he was being subtle when he wasn't and pretty much Nerfing OP To hell and then daring to call her cheater He thought he was being smart by saying what he did About not revealing who the cheater was. It's a bully tactic To scare her into not saying anything because if she did then he would reveal she was the cheater and humiliate her. But this also shows how much he looks down on his co workers Intelligence As he Underestimated just how disliked he had become. I believe he was avoiding the poster at work Because he got dressing down, And he feared his dwindling reputation going down Even further if anything could be perceived as bullying OP! As someone said Some like him assume their reputations are untouchable So they act out as they do And the quickest way to destroy a bully self esteem Is the show them that yeah their actions have consequences. We have to remember bullies are a cowardly sort When they know they're hated by all They quickly retreat. But least with this explanation he had to walk on egg shells And hopefully learned that maybe Just maybe it's a terrible idea to target bully coworkers! Because turns out you're not the most popular person like you thought you were. I also like the remind idiots obsessed with popularity That's the quickest way to make yourself a pariah. It's a coin toss on if the crowd cares or not for your bad behavior. And in this case the coin landed heads! He deserves what he gets. Tabletop doesn't exist for bullying AND especially Simping for one of your players (if you can't be impartial and fair, then you can't be a DM! Why do you think a judge cannot be trusted to oversee a Trial if a family member is on the prosecutor or Defendant's side! Even if they have no bias, they're will always be an accusation of favoritism, so better they're NOT involved.)

[@solosynapse]

Later updates to the post pointed out that he was really sexist. That's probably most of it.

[@windyface9383]

I feel OP. As a cis female player myself, I have a tendency to default to male characters as well to remove the "Oooh a GURL!" effect in-game. Less a problem now with the groups I play with, so I'm more comfortable with picking any gender in-game, but yeah.

[@pLanetstarBerry]

I was lucky in that my first proper dnd group had an even split of male and female players. I default to male characters with new groups where I'm not sure of player dynamics (and sometimes even that doesn't stop them, cuz sketchy players are gonna sketch), but with groups I'm comfortable with the character's gender is now down to what °▪︎☆V I B E☆▪︎° I'm getting across. Currently playing a cowboy-flavored gunslinger, and my biggest problem starting out was getting the party to address him with he/him pronouns. Though it did lead to a funny moment where the spectator we were fighting corrected the other characters, then shot my boy with a necrotic beam. They stopped misgendering him after that. 🤣

[@starhalv2427]

Strangely enought, as a male I rather often plan female characters. Not sure why, but when I make a character I don't have a concept in mind of whether it's a male or female, and it just ends up one way or the other at some point of writing the backstory- tho usually my female characters have evil alignment and also happen to be my favourite characters.

[@CelioHogane]

"How did you deal fire damage with an arrow?" OH NO THE MOST COMPLEX ELEMENTAL COMBINATION, PUTTING AN ARROW ON FIRE

[@CozyCabinLife5301]

Gm showing favoritism to his girl friend and best friend. I would find evidence of wrong doings at their work or if they are cheating and destroy their lives. You want to bully me? I will leave nothing but glass and dust in my wake as I destroy all that think they can bully me.

[@iank472]

Everybody say it with me: No D&D is better than bad D&D. I get the concern over workplace tension but surely staying in a truly awful game getting increasingly pissed off at the moron DM caused that anyway?

[@belgarath6388]

Yeah definetly, she should've noped out as soon as the GM pulled that "cursed ring" business.

[@Lordofmoo30]

People who get like that for a woman playing a male character should only be allowed to play humans of a non magic class

[@josefbajarias3109]

Billy needs a cloudkill ... and he gets all the debuffs

[@RealSeanithan]

"Oversized bastard swords" In typical sword classifications, there actually is a term for an oversized bastard sword: a longsword.

[@PresKen3920]

Insufferable DM, insufferable person. I’m suprised OP hung on as long as she did. They showed red flags right from the beginning.

[@lanir9543]

People like DM Billy are a real pain to deal with. When you have an issue but try to deal with it by talking it out like adults, they don't want to admit that they have feelings about it. If you have feelings you're not being logical and therefore you're in the wrong. Obviously. Right? No, of course not! But that's how they handle it and bam, next thing you know you're dealing with petty nonsense over their not-a-problem problem. Then if/when you get annoyed they'll often just act like you're the one suddenly having feelings out of nowhere and therefore being unreasonable.

[@jackofastora8962]

Funny how it wasn’t even sorcerer’s supposed main character antics that brought things to a halt, it was just billy freaking out that his wife didn’t have the spotlight, but like, what was bros issue? Was he really THAT mad over a woman playing a man 😭

[@solosynapse]

Recent updates say he's a raging sexist, so yea, he was really that mad. Tiny 🍆 Energy.

[@mentalrebllion1270]

Aiya I get real annoyed whenever I have gotten asked why I play a male character. I mostly just say “do you remember that when we spoke at the beginning I said I was genderfluid?” And they usually feel awkward at that. Honestly, what I hate is, just because I appear to be female in appearance and voice, I immediately am expected to play female characters even if I myself am fluid. A ton of “appears as girl so should always play girl” mentality and it’s annoying. I don’t just play male characters in games, I have about half the characters I play being female, but it’s frustrating the reaction I get when I play male ones. I have it better these days as the groups I’m in are better about it was still frustrating and eventually led to me leaving some groups in the past due to the mounting frustration. Least I have never had it as bad as this.

[@marcusreading3783]

I'm a cis man and at this point, I think most of my characters have been ladies. I dont really know why either, it just so happens that the stories I've concocted for them work better with them as girls. Frankly, I dont really care what character anyone plays, so long as they have fun.

[@unluckyone1655]

I'm female and most of my characters are male. Then there's my partner who is male, and most of his characters are female lol

[@lostplanet213]

so i dont know if the gm in this story did it of his own volition or because egged on by sorcerer but it seems that she didnt want to share the spotlight with another character played by a female also the barmaid encounter was likely because he wanted a fade to black scene to occur and attempted a nerf because u didn't play ball with what he wanted

[@BlazingKhioneus]

My money says no matter what course of action Jourom took with the barmaid, it'd still end up with his sword being smashed in the morning.

[@SPedneau]

Ooof, sounds like some of the toxic crap one of my old groups would pull.

[@randallgpreston]

I currently have a 3.5 character with weapon focus great sword. If my DM started targeting me, I would be very upset too.

[@TheCrazydude17]

Fighters get the shaft anyway. It would be so dickish to do something to the only fun the player has. Why not burn the Wizard's spellbook, kill the Ranger's companion, and lobotomize the Barbarian's amygdala while we're at it?

[@cookieskoon2028]

Why is it that every time I hear about a DM playing favorites (especially male DMs) it's always to a wife or girlfriend?

[@sn0wb00ts]

If ttrpgs were a video game I’d suggest this dm uninstall the game. Clearly not for him, hopefully no one ever had to deal with that immature little man-child ever again.

[@AtelierGod]

“Manufactured goods” is just using natural resources to make something, I’d imagine if they had a crafter in the party that created magic items out of those natural resources the result would’ve been worse than just using them raw.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Goold ole Nipsy; enjoying the simple, fine things in life. That's right, thank the kitties. This is perhaps your longest video so here we go. Story 1: I remember this one. This one is SO stupid. DM license revoked. Story 1.2: There's more!? Yeah, OP was DEFINITELY singled out. Probably due to the girlfriend's insistence. Story 1.3: Here we go. OH! That gaslighting (censored)!

[@zachcochran5738]

I really don’t understand these dm’s. Been doing it for five years now and I’ve never lost a player or even had any drama like this. I must be very lucky with players I guess but geez these dms do things that would never even cross my mind lol

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

"Oversized bastard sword" ... so a greatsword? The defining trait of a bastard sword (or hand-and-a-half sword) is that it can be used with one of both hands. If it's too big to be used one-handed then it's either a war sword (a great sword in D&D terms) or a bearing sword (a decorative/ceremonial sword that's too big to wield). "Would look too silly" is a weird rationalization for something that only exists as narration. "Maybe now he'll think twice about putting on random items from a dungeon without having them properly checked first" ... but it was properly checked. "Suddenly and for no reason" - I'm sorry, were you not paying attention when she stole and destroyed his irreplaceable personal property and then threatened him with a knife completely unprovoked?

[@kariissmol9172]

"We're going to drop this now!" I would have slit my throat right then and there

[@PlayfulOtter]

DMs like this one make me sick to my stomach.

[@Nyorane]

What a trash DM, holy crap. An absolute antagonist to her for no damn reason...

[@marmelaaden]

Hi Doge! A question about your cats: have they always gotten along nicely or did it take time? :) Also, thank you, enjoyed the video, like always!

[@RLHooper]

The player seemed too not like the player was good and knew their stuff, and favored his GF who obviously was used to being the focus. This is a case of player whose skill outmatches the DM's ability, some veteran players play other genders. I myself am a male and will play females, that DM obviously is like some I meant who prefer players play their own gender, which helps new players but not players who have experience with it. TTRPG's are an escape from reality, why stifle it? However this DM just wants to target the player, who just wants to play their character without being made a target.

[@joak82]

Lmao "the sword and your feats are too unrealistic" my brother in christ SINCE WHEN IS PEOPLE THROWING FIRE AND GLUE FROM THEIR HANDS OUT OF NOWHERE CONSIDERED REALISTIC. If a dm EVER tells you that something of yours is unrealistic, point at the nearest spellcaster and say "well, throwing spontaneous fire surely is far less real than a giant sword"

[@logan997_]

Idk, if it was me, my fist are rate E for everyone and I would’ve put that bar maid beneath the ground for breaking a heirloom and potentially jeopardizing backstory. On top of that I would immediately quit if my team don’t back me up on that.

[@vegetin01]

Op has way too much patience. Just leave.

[@Omega0850]

About the wealth part: I once had the same problem in a Starfinder game. (Pathfinder in space with technology and magic) The DM just wouldn´t put any money or items in our way, and because he railroaded us all the time ala "The NPC puts explosive collars on all of you, and demands you to do XYZ for him." which of course meant no payment in the end, we couldn´t earn money that way either. He gave us our own spaceship and our own colony IN THE FIRST SESSION, but it was again forced onto us with no option to refuse, and we were more administrators than owners. We got no salary, and when i asked if we could tax the population and gain some money that way, he said something along the lines of "That would cause unrest." So we were basically slaves all the time. It got to the point were we didn´t have enough money to buy food. It only got better when i started to loot every dead enemy for their crappy weapons worth a nikel and a dime, and also told everybody why i did it. It was somewhat annoying to do that, (for the other players too i guess) but i felt like my character had no choice, if he didn´t want to starve to death. But it somewhat seemed to work, because the DM got annoyed too, and decided that droping some money on us was better than having to deal with this. Still, we were terribly underequipped, since we mostly still had our starting equipment at level five, and combat encounters became harder and harder, which the DM lamented about, and i told him why thats the case. (didn´t change anything) I have quite a few little stories about that particular campaign, which disintegrated after two years (i had no idea it went on so long, but i checked my last message to the DM where i told him my grievances as constructive as possible) because all the players quit. I don´t see our DM as a bad person, but he was pretty stubborn, sort of every hill was a hill to die on for him.

[@samurailevi49]

When I played pathfinder, my barbarian carried a Final Fantasy like sword which is absolutely absurd, but hilarious. My dm allowed it without any problems.

[@JacobL228]

No one talked it out, Doge. One person called out the DM for targeting them over and over again and ruining their cool character, and the DM denied all of it and tried (and failed) to make it seem like it was the player's fault. Please stop insinuating that this story had a happy ending. There was no lack of communication, only a dick who wasn't comfortable with girls playing in his game unless they were sleeping with him. Maybe Drake can give this the commentary it deserves. By the way, the title of the video is wrong too; it should be, "GM Nerfs Girl's Pathfinder Character for Being Male".

[@skyguard1an]

In a game, i was suposed to loose ALL my fingers, but beacouse of the dm, and a party member. Not only did i lose only 6 fingers, it just cost 100 gold to grow em back. i did obviusly get penalty on attack rolls tho

[@BlazingKhioneus]

One of the worst parts is where soon as Jourom's con save failed, it was a cutscene. No player agency as Billy just leans over the table, holding the puppet strings for all to see. I probably wouldve gotten fed up with the excrutiating lack of player agency for such a long stretch i wouldve been getting snippy with Billy in a hurry over that. "Do you want to take Jourom and I'll just roll up a new character? you clearly know how he'll act better than i do!"

[@oldmanshinji9662]

In my game potion of invisibility was around 5k gold, with the reason that locals don't respect magic and it's derivatives.

[@M_Alexander]

If I were in that position at the end where the DM deliberately nerfed my character and wanted to continue like nothing happened, I'd probably spend the rest of the session taking my turns describing at length how my character contemplates their navel

[@PenniDeadful]

This is infuriating me and I'm on the first part! 🤬

[@sentientbottlecap]

Dodge making a comeback with an Iliad/Odyssey sized story

[@vortega472]

Hey Nipsy, old bud, how you doing with the window? My two fur babies also chase sunbeams. Ah the kitty intermission before Part 3 - I love it when kitties get along. As to the DM in the story - I would call them a tool - but tools are useful.

[@supermarioblacktiger]

Lesson of this story - Have a paper trail.

[@willr6887]

Should've called out the DM. This is one of the most infuriating experiences (barring the stories with sexual stuff) I've ever had the displeasure of listening to.

[@robertogaribay6230]

I had to skim through this because the that DM was infuriating

[@monikasernek1177]

Me who also likes to play male characters even if I'm a woman irl: *Chuckle* I'm in danger. No Seriously - what's the problem with women playing male characters?

[@falxblade1352]

The same problem with men playing female characters: None, unless you or someone else makes one out of it

[@monikasernek1177]

@@falxblade1352 You mean like some guys play female characters as their little fantasy p*rn? I never understood why - do they not have an ounce of shame. (For the record female players doing yaoi or similar stuff are bad too - if not worse)

[@falxblade1352]

@@monikasernek1177 yea, pretty much

[@travisbishop782]

None, some people are just jerks.

[@KHBogWitch]

I cannot imagine someone having a problem with playing another gender. My group is tight and I must be very fortunate, because 2 of the males only ever play females, and I as a female have played 75/25 as a male. We even got the third male to give playing a female a try, and he’s having a blast. His wife is the only one of us who is playing her IRL gender.

[@unluckyone1655]

Seriously what was that DMs malfunction

[@CooperAATE]

That's a pretty trash GM, yeah

[@fateric007]

I would've left after the first session.

[@jeydomo]

The moment I hear "X is unrealistic" I laugh in Fantasy story telling gaming.