DMU Diesel Train Driver Part 2, Driving The Train

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@derrickgreen9020
@derrickgreen9020 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’m watching this to help me drive the unit on Train Simulator World 2020 over the Pennine route...! Just brilliant. Thanks for posting.
@dronespace
@dronespace 4 жыл бұрын
♥️ vacuum brake
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 4 жыл бұрын
Does the simulator model that you tore up the gearbox?
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 4 жыл бұрын
This is the very video that allowed me to drive the class 101 in TSW 2020 and TSW 2
@superbracey
@superbracey 4 жыл бұрын
I either overshoot the station or stop 4 miles early.
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 2 жыл бұрын
I just run the bitch in first gear and say to the passengers: "fuck it, were not stalling this bitch"
@patton303
@patton303 4 жыл бұрын
God bless the people who upload these glorious historic artifacts. I could watch old films like this for days. *Sometimes I do*
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 8 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating film. Not only for learning how they drove them, but seeing the engineering of the time and the footage of the lineside equipment, crossings etc from that time - absolutely fascinating.
@MittyNuke1
@MittyNuke1 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. What a look into the past. I think stuff like this often conveys more history than any official "history" films, since at the time this was just made as an instructional film for the people of those days, not with any intent of conveying a specific message.
@lewisner
@lewisner 2 жыл бұрын
I looked on Google Earth and Wickenby signalbox (13.51) still exists but the station closed in 1965 and is now a house.
@c2757
@c2757 6 жыл бұрын
Start the two diesel engines up in a shed with the doors closed. Walk round and do your checks, put destination indicators right and then ring for an ambulance to get treated for carbon monoxide poisoning!
@MrDavros-qb2lj
@MrDavros-qb2lj 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it must have been hell in the colder months, presumably the roller shutter doors were opened first (hopefully!). I have great memories of the class 114s in South Yorkshire. Did Skegness station have any platform seats then (1956), it certainly hadn't by 1992! Thanks for putting this series of films on.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 6 жыл бұрын
c2757 the exhausts are abot 13 ft above rail level and the sheds had good ventilation systems above the trains to remove the fumes.
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 4 жыл бұрын
Diesels are not serious generators of carbon monoxide. You must be thinking of Otto-cycle (gasoline) engines.
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 4 жыл бұрын
Different era
@c2757
@c2757 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesblaque7728 From time to time I work in an ex. RAF WW2 full size aircraft hanger - say 150ft by 200 ft by 24 ft high. It's a big building. If someone starts a dmu size diesel engine up in there, as they regularly do, it becomes very unpleasant fairly quickly, even in that size of place. I will admit I put carbon-monoxide in my original comment without specifically thinking about it in detail. Regardless, being in an environment where the air is that thick with diesel fumes can't be good for the health.
@FILNAT2011
@FILNAT2011 6 жыл бұрын
Now I know how to steal one of these trains,now all I need to do is find the control sachet and one of these trains
@jasongoulden2938
@jasongoulden2938 4 жыл бұрын
FILNAT2011 lol try the swanage railway they have a few 🤣
@adcockerell
@adcockerell 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the Great Train Robbers studied this film...?
@ovemunk
@ovemunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@adcockerell Why? It was an altogerher different type of locomotive (diesel electric.) and they had a train driver with them.😉
@gammaraider
@gammaraider 4 жыл бұрын
But, DONT RACE IT
@Flyingscotsman19_23
@Flyingscotsman19_23 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 4 жыл бұрын
I worked on those Self Chasnging gears transmissions when serving my Apprenticeship . It didn't take much for a driver to kill one. Common problems were melting the fusible plug in the fluid flywheel from overloading in top gear. . Engine damage was caused by drivers using the trans to slow down in a hurry, going from 4th to 2nd for example. The engines we had were Fiat (Mussolinis revenge) and Leylands and the Fiats would throw conrods if over revved to any degree too often .
@jdavis460
@jdavis460 4 жыл бұрын
I resent that I never did any of things you mention. Still have my 21 key and a mate of mine another retired driver owns two railcar sets.
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 3 жыл бұрын
Brian, can you train me?
@wetcanoedogs
@wetcanoedogs 12 жыл бұрын
i've been staying up past midnight,i'm retired, to watch these train videos!..great stuff. here in Minneapolis Mn we have what called a Light Rail system that runs from downtown to the airport with stops close by.overhead electric and very quiet and cheap to ride. thanks again..
@iantrack
@iantrack 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading. Happy memories of my dad driving 103,105 and 100 class DMU's.
@055deltic
@055deltic 12 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating series of films, especially Pt2 on driving the train - wish I had seen this years ago, when I was glued to the window behind the driver! It makes understanding their movements so much clearer. Thanks for posting these - fantastic!
@clarky2356
@clarky2356 4 жыл бұрын
These old DMU always fascinated me changing gear on a train the sound and smell of the diesel in the cabin
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 жыл бұрын
I used to watch these in the mid 1980's at Slough station. Operating between London Paddington and Reading.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 10 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 1981 sitting behind the driver on a DMU train from Guildford through the Surrey Hills to Dorking. It was fascinating to be able to look ahead and see the lineside signals as well as the frequent changes of gradient on this hilly route. Unfortunately with the modern Class 165 units which work the North Downs line, you can't see where you're going any more!
@lowercherty
@lowercherty 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting transmission. Pretty .uch the same concept as the Cat Powershift transmission that came out in the 50's.
@with2ells
@with2ells 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that the line is Lincoln-Grimsby (GCR) as it goes through Wickenby at 13:55
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 5 жыл бұрын
Using a cloth or rag was standard practice for most of the railway men,the signal box operator rarely touching levers without the cloth. The driver has to be familiar with every part of his route along the way,speed restrictions,crossings,every signal,and incidental repair or maintenance work being undertaken. A big responsibility,rarely appreciated by most of the passengers,but absolutely vital for everybody's safety.
@thedrwatson4363
@thedrwatson4363 10 жыл бұрын
13:10 That wave tho
@MrDavros-qb2lj
@MrDavros-qb2lj 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. As harry Hill would say, Which brings us to our most casual wave of the week!
@valyardelean
@valyardelean 4 жыл бұрын
Now I know how to drive a train if I go back in time.
@ChrisNorris
@ChrisNorris 12 жыл бұрын
Fascinating film. thanks for posting.
@1171karl
@1171karl 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how many crivers followed these instructions to the letter, and what shortcuts they used
@DannyPRobinson
@DannyPRobinson 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this, it's a fascinating video. Like 055Deltic, I used to sit behind the drivers and watch (usually this was on the push'n'pull between Greenford and Ealing). This explains really well what was going on. What's obvious is that driving these isn't just a case of point and squirt... the starting procedure in particular looks really complicated.
@andrewbutler6477
@andrewbutler6477 2 жыл бұрын
Remember these units in the valley lines by the late 80 s they were knackered when departing stations remember the blue exhaust and the fumes but were fun to travel on with the rattles and the engine on full power traveling on the steeply graded valley routes
@shuttlebug468
@shuttlebug468 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou diesel railcar sim :) awesome game - learn how to drive exactly by watching this
@johnsmith-be3wt
@johnsmith-be3wt 9 жыл бұрын
I notice the instruction on starting a cold engine, the narrator says "don't race the engine" yet the driver does exactly the opposite... Leyland engines do require a fair bit of throttle to start, but not full revs...
@CreatureOfTheVoid
@CreatureOfTheVoid 11 жыл бұрын
Most likely to protect their hands from any grease or muck or more likely just to add a bit more grip like using a tee towel on a jar lid
@HORNEBEEDUBLO
@HORNEBEEDUBLO 11 жыл бұрын
The engines fitted to the unit in this video are Leyland 680s.
@DoctorBastardo
@DoctorBastardo 5 жыл бұрын
Albions actually but renamed as Leyland B.U.T. engines. The later upgraded engines lost the Albion designation completely.
@vikingsmb
@vikingsmb 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorBastardo you are right, as the class 114's depicted in the film originally had 150hp leylands x2, however they were underpowered so they fitted 230hp leyland albions x2 instead which were much better.
@Grinder-one
@Grinder-one 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading.
@E-63836
@E-63836 3 жыл бұрын
I understand how to drive a train I’ve never seen before and never will see, yet I don’t live in the UK
@arthurmatthews9321
@arthurmatthews9321 4 жыл бұрын
Common problem with these cyclic boxes was the traction bands ripping off if a driver did a racing gear change , ie changing gear with the throttle still open. You were supposed to wait a few seconds before taking power or it would cause terminal damage. Also coasting in neutral is a no no .
@ReallyTinyShoes
@ReallyTinyShoes 2 жыл бұрын
Why was coasting in neutral a bad idea? Wouldn't that just disconnect idling engines from gearbox?
@singhamaninder5836
@singhamaninder5836 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they carried brake lever in satchels
@revpm69
@revpm69 4 жыл бұрын
Driver was BR Mr Personality 1957. First prize, a nail brush. Great video though.
@meet141
@meet141 4 жыл бұрын
Dam he forgot his lunch box in beginning, now his wife BDSM him
@derrickgreen9020
@derrickgreen9020 4 жыл бұрын
That’s definitely the actor Roger Allam giving the commentary! Just the perfect matching voice for those films.👍
@leeosborne3793
@leeosborne3793 3 жыл бұрын
He was about four years old when this was made...
@derrickgreen9020
@derrickgreen9020 3 жыл бұрын
I meant his recent voice over to emulate the style😉
@elchapo6660
@elchapo6660 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell did I go from sports videos to a “how to” start a train video??! 😂
@YugyStudios
@YugyStudios 4 жыл бұрын
The algorithm fricked up once more.
@richardjellis9186
@richardjellis9186 4 жыл бұрын
At 09:40, they say to put into gear and release the brakes FULLY. I don't drive trains, but, wouldn't you only release the brakes as you get a 'bite', and start moving, like in a car etc.?
@cristianvergara242
@cristianvergara242 2 ай бұрын
Watching this to learn to drive in Diesel Railcar Simulator
@FirstGearSims
@FirstGearSims 10 жыл бұрын
Anyone know exactly what TOPS class this DMU would be? Looks similar internally to a 117 but the dials seems to be laid out slightly different.
@viscount812
@viscount812 9 жыл бұрын
dilwich123 a Derby lightweight Class 108. The 110s were Calder Valley sets and very different in appearance.
@Snapdragon4472
@Snapdragon4472 7 жыл бұрын
It is a class 114.
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
Did tops classify them can only rememember as proper numbers
@RD-ht6go
@RD-ht6go 4 жыл бұрын
6:04 "75psi, the minimum satisfactory working (air) pressure for cabin control" I'm surprised pneumatic actuation had been invented and adopted in what... before 1950s. It's awesome.
@warweezil2802
@warweezil2802 11 ай бұрын
1938 tube stock had pneumatic control & equipment governors to ensure that the train could not be operated with insufficient train line & main line air. It was commonplace by the 50s
@YoLikeRyder
@YoLikeRyder 11 жыл бұрын
at 10:05 it sounded like driving a manual transmission car. COOL!
@chusan01
@chusan01 12 жыл бұрын
Reet grand stuff. Bring back the good old BR days1
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
Idrove dmus on gospel oak to barking great fun days only aws no tpws atp proper driving great trsind to drive
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
Great video for teainees on preserve lines
@glpilpi6209
@glpilpi6209 6 жыл бұрын
I remember these railcars as they were known .
@howardbull9001
@howardbull9001 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that the satchel was for 50009 and the car number was 56009?
@joeyhammer1998
@joeyhammer1998 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i noticed that
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 жыл бұрын
50009 was the motor car, 56009 was the matching trailer
@EinkOLED
@EinkOLED 6 жыл бұрын
This is still used by northern rail to train their drivers.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 6 жыл бұрын
the Pacers were re-engineered to hydraulic transmission in the late 80s / early 90s but yeah haha!
@rustynuts4426
@rustynuts4426 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. And wales valley line
@videoeditor7803
@videoeditor7803 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it if Northern was around when these were they would still be in service now 😂
@gordonphillips7229
@gordonphillips7229 4 жыл бұрын
There's no mention of a clutch, yet the gears have to be selected manually.
@ericssmith2014
@ericssmith2014 4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere on KZbin there's a video of tips for bus operators that talks about this same style of transmission, with its "brake bands," and the necessity of giving it a moment before pouring on the power again.
@filianablanxart8305
@filianablanxart8305 4 жыл бұрын
They mentioned a " Fluid Coupler " , massively oversimplified , think of it as a simplified version of a torque converter in an automatic transmission .
@herzglass
@herzglass 4 жыл бұрын
When the throttle is set to idle the clutch automatically disengages. railcar dot co dot uk has a great site on "DMU Technology - The Basics". If you want to know these worked percisely that is the place to go. Later models, not too soon after this film was made (1959) were basically automatic versions with hydraulic torque convertors.
@mikecawood
@mikecawood 9 жыл бұрын
The driver using an old rag on the controls would be to prevent blistering of the skin etc., a habit from driving steam locos.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 6 жыл бұрын
no , that is not the reason .
@JohnSmith-vi5pz
@JohnSmith-vi5pz 7 жыл бұрын
I remember these trains, as the engine accelerated when pulling away there was a peculiar rasping sound from the exhausts at a certain RPM. You can't but help think that the transmission would be very efficient, I bet they do more MPG's than modern DMU's?
@gwsrdmu5690
@gwsrdmu5690 7 жыл бұрын
we get 11mpg
@TheZacDJ
@TheZacDJ 5 жыл бұрын
Far and away better on fuel than modern DMUs. The quoted figure was 12mpg per power car. Modern DMUs will do about 4or5 mpg. And locos its gallons per mile!
@raypetts2155
@raypetts2155 4 жыл бұрын
filnat 2011 so right i thought that not so much now but was possible during operating days. also only able to stop engine out side ouch.
@abrarzaheen4391
@abrarzaheen4391 4 жыл бұрын
Was is there only one narrator narrating everything in the black and white era? 🤔
@Numatoy9
@Numatoy9 12 жыл бұрын
skegness town ... great video
@ianwatkins9602
@ianwatkins9602 4 жыл бұрын
What is the Lap position on the brake control?
@averyaveragetrain233
@averyaveragetrain233 4 жыл бұрын
ian watkins Basically no air is going in or out the train pipe it stays where i is
@trainsforever8
@trainsforever8 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading ~
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 2 жыл бұрын
The Control Circuit Switch Key looks the same as the Morris Minor ignition key. It probably was.
@southernwulf3335
@southernwulf3335 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know how my 96 ram trucks transmission works.
@sanjeevpereira6765
@sanjeevpereira6765 4 жыл бұрын
Great vedio & Narration
@MyTROLLEYBUS
@MyTROLLEYBUS 6 жыл бұрын
Nice satchel.
@jaffacakemonster53
@jaffacakemonster53 4 жыл бұрын
What is the detonator for? At 1:10
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 4 жыл бұрын
Detonators are small explosive devices that are placed on the track as a warning device to protect the train if it becomes stuck on the main line track for whatever reason.
@ChoboUnjeon
@ChoboUnjeon 4 жыл бұрын
Manual transmission on a train???
@owouwu9032
@owouwu9032 4 жыл бұрын
A train where you have to change gears like a car
@mikessidorov
@mikessidorov 4 жыл бұрын
So cool and interesting!)
@grendelum
@grendelum 4 жыл бұрын
now all i need is a tardis and we can go snag one of these for a joyride
@Happytylermovieproducction
@Happytylermovieproducction 7 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine starting 8 engines manually if DMU have 8 cars
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 6 жыл бұрын
Tay TYLERIENMAM Station that's only 4 power cars; the shortest distance to work would only be to the next car, via the 2 driving cabs; the longest would be 3 cars.
@averyaveragetrain233
@averyaveragetrain233 4 жыл бұрын
They start engines buttons in the cabs start all engines at once
@spiccybaby
@spiccybaby 11 жыл бұрын
AEC were the most common, if I remember correctly.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 4 жыл бұрын
Yes AEC engines, flat 6 cylinders, about 150hp each, but a 9 car train had 12 engines, on a good day that's 1800 hp.
@spiccybaby
@spiccybaby 4 жыл бұрын
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 Claggy, though. Round about 1970, I remember a stock movement at Reading which consisted of 12 cars, all single or two-car units. It would drift into the station laying down a smokescreen across the entire western endf
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 6 жыл бұрын
They must have changed the instructions at some point as by the 1970s the destination blind would have different destinations at each end, for example Darlington at the Darlington end and Saltburn at the Saltburn end.
@Shadders5
@Shadders5 11 жыл бұрын
As a kid I used to ride the DMU's on the Kings Cross to Welwyn Garden City line during the mid 70's, shortly before the line was electrified. I'm sure I saw the drivers use an old rag when applying the brakes. What was the reason for that?
@oscillation9814
@oscillation9814 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Charalambous Read a comment near the top of this video, it explains. :)
@grassgg9358
@grassgg9358 5 жыл бұрын
On the steam locomotive, the break handle is hot :)
@arsmm_arsmm
@arsmm_arsmm 4 жыл бұрын
Прикольно посмотреть, как работают иностранные машинисты!
@pingpongpung
@pingpongpung 11 жыл бұрын
Why does it say 50009 on the satchel (1:52), and 56009 above the window (1:45)?
@PeterTOrganist
@PeterTOrganist 10 жыл бұрын
50009 is the vehicle number of the motor car (DMBS) and 56009 is the number of the trailer (DTCL). Both form the two car set. As 50009 is the motorized vehicle I presume that that would be the more important vehicle number and the number on the satchel. What happened when units were reformed as was regular practice or if both driving vehicles were powered, I don't know!
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Thomson there is no difference in the importance between the 2 vehicles in this set, or any other for that matter. The driving motor vehicles were given numbers in the series 50000 to 52105 (inluding the hand full of non-driving motor cars from the Trans-Pennine units), driving trailer vehicles were given nembers in the range 56000 to 56504. Intermediate trailers were numbered between 59000 and 59832. Single car units were numbered between 55000 and 55999 (including the parcels units). The pre-production units were numbered between 70000 and 79999, and the Blue Pullmans were numbered between 60090 and 60749 There were many 2-car power-twin units (ie 2 power cars) as well as 3 and 4 car units. The operation was exactly the same as shown here, but with 4 engines to worry about instead of 2. The highest number of engines a driver of a single unit would need to keep an eye on is 8 on the Trans-Pennine units.
@c2757
@c2757 6 жыл бұрын
Single cars. YES. That's what we used to call them. Never heard of bubblecars until about late 1990s! Damn silly name.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 6 жыл бұрын
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 the 4 engines per higher powered 2-car unit was to make up for the fact that they didn't have turbos I'm guessing...?
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 6 жыл бұрын
RWL2012 correct. They were typically used on routes with steep inclines, such as in the Pennines, or on services with swingers (parcels vans attached at the end of the train).
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 жыл бұрын
A moot technical point - diesel engines do not have throttles.
@COIcultist
@COIcultist 4 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with you, but having driven Diesel cars for years they still have an accelerator. OK Diesels are always supplied with excess air, so they don't have throttles. I thought I was a pedant and all I ever want to insist on is the difference between mass and weight.
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 жыл бұрын
@@COIcultist Yes, that was a bit OTT of me. Mass and weight is far less pedantic by far. I've been driving diesel cars almost exclusively for the last fifteen years as well.
@mr.saltymelons756
@mr.saltymelons756 6 жыл бұрын
can i now help my uncle with his work? (he drives trains) and btw it acctually sounds like a lorry, can somebody tell me what kind of engine is in there?
@DoctorBastardo
@DoctorBastardo 5 жыл бұрын
In the 114 shown a couple of Albion engines by then renamed as Leyland or Leyland B.U.T. These and AEC lumps were the most common in 1st generation DMUs! Checkout railcar.co.uk for much nerdtastic info...
@patrickporter6536
@patrickporter6536 4 жыл бұрын
Leyland 680
@MtaBus5102
@MtaBus5102 6 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for newer modern trains, too much work lol
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 5 жыл бұрын
I’m (unusually) more of a modern traction boy myself, but with that said it’s still interesting to see the older units and how they operated.
@dominicarceo9637
@dominicarceo9637 10 жыл бұрын
It's just like driving a old truck. New diesel trains dosen't need this type of operation.
@mikecawood
@mikecawood 9 жыл бұрын
Dominic Arceo These diesel trains were introduced in the early 1950s, so they are very old & use 1950s technology.
@Mitsugejl
@Mitsugejl 12 жыл бұрын
Leyland engines?
@paulhardman8557
@paulhardman8557 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video but it's a class 114 not a 118
@alexjohnson1411
@alexjohnson1411 2 жыл бұрын
Was this video recorded here in Kenya during the colonial period? 😂 some places i see are similar Like dagoretti station Nairobi railway station ,Thogoto and Kikuyu? maybe or maybe not . i really appreciate that piece of engineering
@YotamAmit
@YotamAmit Жыл бұрын
yotam amity’s ❤😊Miami
@motokid7770
@motokid7770 4 жыл бұрын
Woh woh woh a detonation charge like what if the driver forgets and it goes boom
@warweezil2802
@warweezil2802 4 жыл бұрын
UP_trains_&_reviews interesting that BR used canisters for the detonators. On LT they were contained in a “tool box” (actually a built in cabinet) sealed with a glass plate over the handle. The toolbox contained detonators, a red flag and “presspahn shields” which should used if the train was being coupled to another in an emergency while the wrong way round. (Older LT stock had different couplers each end)
@johnnycats5157
@johnnycats5157 4 жыл бұрын
is it just me, or does it seem like these locomotives weren't engineered very well? 4th gear to stop? wait two seconds when switching gears or you'll wreck it? what what?
@herzglass
@herzglass 4 жыл бұрын
They were engineered cost effective for the time they were made in.
@JintySteam1
@JintySteam1 12 жыл бұрын
i don't understand the gears part where they show the cut away view
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
It was on a complicated gearing described as as planet type as u chsnged gears diffetent cogs engaged to go up down gear there are pictures i guess on internet discription or get hold of a old br dmu manual
@jammin023
@jammin023 4 жыл бұрын
So many ways to damage the engine... yet the controls were electrical so it seems to me (from my probably naïve modern perspective) they could have designed circuits to avoid most of the potentially damaging scenarios without relying on the driver doing the right thing. For example if you can only coast in 4th gear, it could automatically engage 4th when the throttle is moved to coast, and then go back to the previously selected gear when throttle is applied. And when changing gear it could ramp down the throttle (via something like a capacitor), change gear, then ramp it up again, to save the driver having to do that step by step. But maybe this was viewed as more likely to go wrong than a well-trained driver.
@herzglass
@herzglass 4 жыл бұрын
Electronics at the time were very pricy and you would need quite a few of computing or measuring devices to achieve that. Way too fancy stuff for a diesel railcar at that time. The switching these levers do is pretty easy stuff, but knowing speed, revs, load and gear and making sense out of that was a bit too much to pack into those. I assume that was theoretically possible, yet not too short after that the Class 127 for example was basically completely automatic with an hydraulic torque converter, switching gears automatically depending on speed, introduced in 1959.
@MOHITJADHAV-ot9vu
@MOHITJADHAV-ot9vu 3 жыл бұрын
I AM FROM INDIA IN INDIAN RAILWAY TRAIN DRIVER CALLED LOCO PILOT
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes mechanic transmission etc that once existed
@radhakrishnanganapathi7436
@radhakrishnanganapathi7436 10 жыл бұрын
very nice.
@timhaigh2557
@timhaigh2557 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, and fascinating. I didn't know there was so much work and preparation involved. Now I also have some idea why there seemed to be long pauses while gears were changed. Are modern diesels much simpler?
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 6 жыл бұрын
I worked on the railway over here in Britain for nearly 50 years . I remember when this DMU's first came into service . We were told they would be used for 15 years , no more , we had them for over 30 . We had some fun and games with the poor drivers learning to drive these . When they had driven only steam all there lives . Known as Z cars by signalman locally . Because they came up on the train describers as 4Z20 through to 4Z23 or so . (Maybe 0Z20 ? It's so long ago my memory may be at fault ). From the caps and robbers series on Tv at the time . Any one here remember this ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX2UeaF6fLl0gZo
@seanthomasbickerton8040
@seanthomasbickerton8040 10 жыл бұрын
Having been a Locomotive Engineer (Train Driver) in the "Yewess" (U.S.) since 1988, most of which has been in Passenger Service, this is quite interesting! I first learned about vacuum braking while on a "Busman's Holiday" in Ireland in 1997 (I think they only used vacuum brakes on their sugar beet trains); I wonder if vacuum brakes were used on the Continent, or if it was just limited to the British Isles?
@DanielsPolitics1
@DanielsPolitics1 6 жыл бұрын
Seán Thomas Bickerton My understanding is that they were very widely used, as the engineering was much easier to create vacuum rather than pressure with steam as an ejector could be driven directly by steam, while pressure would have required a seperate pump.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 6 жыл бұрын
The vacuum brake is not as harsh as the airbrake going in , it is more sensitive in use . It also has the advantage of starting to operate from the rear of the train, not the middle or front, so drags the train to a stand .
@dkbmaestrorules
@dkbmaestrorules 5 жыл бұрын
The vacuum brake is essentially a thing of the UK and its sphere of influence. It was used to an extent on the Continent, but the air brake has been standard there - at least, on the standard gauge - for about 100 years now.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Sean, vacuum brakes were the original "fail safe" system, relying on 14.5 lbs ^" air pressure.
@nalakprince6376
@nalakprince6376 4 күн бұрын
Why not check engine oil level? Even modern day trucks require the engine oil level to be checked... 🤔
@alanhodder6166
@alanhodder6166 11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Any of these kind of videos floating around about diesel locos?
@stonenpebble
@stonenpebble 7 жыл бұрын
Alan Hodder lol. You've just watched one!
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 6 жыл бұрын
Locomotives, not multiple units...
@filpmcjackson2563
@filpmcjackson2563 4 жыл бұрын
detonator canister?
@vancouverman4313
@vancouverman4313 4 жыл бұрын
Diesel-Electric locomotives are sure a lot easier to drive, no gear changes and transmissions to blow.
@azzajacko9483
@azzajacko9483 12 жыл бұрын
Good tells you real info
@stevehughes275
@stevehughes275 8 жыл бұрын
That's a great vid that👍🏻
@TheMiserablegit
@TheMiserablegit 13 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and trying to identify locations keeps me busy. Wickenby crossing box is passed on the Lincoln - Market Rasen line, but the train ends up arriving at Skegness. I am not sure about the junction just before that, with all the gantry signals, but might be Barnetby?
@jdavis460
@jdavis460 4 жыл бұрын
This film brings back many memories I enjoyed driving them and the Rolls Royce’s were good units until you put the brakes on!
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 3 жыл бұрын
Brian, can you train me if I pay you?
@jdavis460
@jdavis460 3 жыл бұрын
@@acquiesce100 ??
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdavis460 Brian - If I paid you would you teach me how to drive one of these at a heritage line?
@jdavis460
@jdavis460 3 жыл бұрын
@@acquiesce100 sorry I don’t own one and as far as I know none of the Rolls Royce’s survive. I’ve retired from full time driving now and will still drive on a heritage line but normally just the larger diesels.
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdavis460 Brian, my company is looking to acquire one? My intention is then to learn how to drive it from a hobby stand point so am looking for a possible teacher. I would pay you well if you could teach me in you free time. There would be no set times or hours, just when you could do it.
@h1sokaMusic
@h1sokaMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Кто из 2020 года? ЛАЙК
@corneydasilva5831
@corneydasilva5831 3 жыл бұрын
It's there any reason why a rail company do not pay food allowance to field workers? Do their customers request on contracts to be fair to others? Do their CEO makes bonus out of this policies?! 😳 MN state
@ajaybhasin9793
@ajaybhasin9793 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍 vidio
@fordlandau
@fordlandau 8 жыл бұрын
Distant is just a warning for home. Pass the on distant ready to stop at on home. Home came off on approach so driver continued. Distant not a stopping signal.
@BenDover-wu7ed
@BenDover-wu7ed 8 жыл бұрын
And in English?
@frankney8284
@frankney8284 8 жыл бұрын
There are two signals interconnected, called "home" and "distant". Think of them as a traffic light with a "RED SIGNAL AHEAD" sign you might see on some roads. When the home signal reads "stop" the distant signal will read "stop" as well, telling the engineer to be prepared to stop at the next signal, so slow down. If the train had reached the home signal while it was still at "stop" the engineer would have had to stop the train. This is actually a simple signalling system. If you want to see something more complicated there is a channel here named "Distant Signal" that has a series of instructional videos about how CSX here on the east coast does signals.
@austinshackles549
@austinshackles549 6 жыл бұрын
On the modern railway the distant is a yellow light, means next signal is at red. Same system though - and semaphores had lights for night time with coloured glass lenses to show red and green etc.
@gwrdriver1660
@gwrdriver1660 6 жыл бұрын
Modern colour light signalling (MAS), is not the same as semaphore. With MAS, a single yellow signal means the next signal is red. You can also have a double yellow signal before the single yellow to give a longer braking distance. With semaphore signals, they work on an absolute block system. Each signal box has an area they control which has a number of home signals (Stop signals), only ONE distant signal and ONE section signal (The boxes last signal). This area is called station limits (There may not be a station thou🤔, it could be a level crossing for example). The area from one signal box's section signal to the next signal box's first stop signal (Home), is called the block section.There can only be one train in the block section at a time (Absolute Block). If the block section is double track, then you can have two trains (One on each track, normally travelling in opposite directions). With the semaphore signal system, the big difference from MAS is that when the semaphore distant is ON (The arm is horizontal or showing yellow light. Modern distant signals in semaphore areas are often coloured light signals), it means that at least one of the signal box's stop signals is ON (stop, red). It may not be the next stop signal, it could be the section signal (That box's last signal). This means that you may have several stop signals displaying proceed (Green) before you get to the one showing stop (Red). If the distant signal is OFF (Showing green or arm up/down), it means that all of that signal box's stop signals are showing proceed (Green), so you can go all the way through that box's station limits and into the next block section. Sorry for the long reply, hope it's of interest. Cheers, Rich
@DadRail
@DadRail 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Description of AB signalling, As a mainline train driver we only have a few areas of AB left most areas are now TCB. The only thing I would add is that some block sections can be divided up by the use of an Intermediate block home (IBH) Signal that always has a related distant signal.
@haynes01623
@haynes01623 9 жыл бұрын
what is the point putting handbrake on st end of run because all brakes are on anyway
@1234shubham1
@1234shubham1 8 жыл бұрын
bn ñnana x.xmqwwwwuhk
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 6 жыл бұрын
When the train has not been used for sometime the vacuum brake does not work .
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
Vacuum brakes not assecure with out parking brake as air
@TheMrduuk
@TheMrduuk 4 жыл бұрын
@@welshpete12 those dmus had a quick release system other than normal vacuum on hayled trains
@Creighton-Jones
@Creighton-Jones 11 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to 1975 when, for a few weeks, I also used to sit behind the driver on the "pushmi-pullyu" between Greenford and Ealing (Broadway).
@pleindespoir
@pleindespoir 4 жыл бұрын
17:25 ... and second clean his dirty fingers before coming home to his wife ;')
@DamoMcDermott
@DamoMcDermott 11 жыл бұрын
Skeggy
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh there's far too much a driver needs to do to restart. No one should be crawling around under a train twisting knobs and pushing buttons other than in the cab. Poor design.
@ChangesOneTim
@ChangesOneTim 4 ай бұрын
That was only when full preparation needs to be done, ie on depot at start of the day's turns or if left stabled for several hours during the day in a platform or yard. Otherwise, control system air pressure is sufficient (75PSI) for the cab controls to work.
@RD-ht6go
@RD-ht6go 4 жыл бұрын
That gearbox mechanism is also used in automatic gearbox on a car nowadays.
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