In what world does GW think anyone wants these previews done *without* the correct points and Day One FAQs? Best decision they've made all year!
@mikoajciemiega80184 күн бұрын
@Xynth25 remember tau codex that had rules for half a year without points
@infinitedm539622 сағат бұрын
@@mikoajciemiega8018 it was barely over a month. Between preview box and codex release.
@alejandroavileshernandez71524 күн бұрын
This is the perfect way to do preview, correct points and correct data’s and preview with day 1 faq. Perfect
@andimusprime33834 күн бұрын
2:24 big yes on the points and faq
@joshyost3183 күн бұрын
Timestamps on the video is a huge increase is watching quality, I wish all aow videos had it.
@JackDespero4 күн бұрын
54:45 When you shoot the unit creating the diversion, you also get the -1 to hit. The enemy always get -1 as long as that unit is the closest, regardless of the target of the attack. For me that represents the effect of having an entrenched diversion unit providing cover fire: If you shoot them, they are entrenched so it is hard to hit them. If you shoot someone else, your attention is split because you have to keep an eye on them.
@tenshimusouka58204 күн бұрын
42:22 It’s hazardous because if you’re cycling ammunition rounds in a tank, while the tank is on fire, there’s a very real risk of your ammunition stores going off
@weissraben44764 күн бұрын
The gun's barrel got slightly bent, the multi-melta fuel line is leaking, the heavy bolter ammo got battered and _might_ be ready to cook off... in short, you usually take a penalty because your tank is in no shape to keep shooting as usual, but you decide that what the hell, we ball. It seems pretty intuitive, beyond the strategic value of the stratagem itself.
@Jenkans2 күн бұрын
The lore reasoning makes sense. In game though it's a pretty poor statagem
@tenshimusouka58202 күн бұрын
@ Oh absolutely! My comment was to clarify the narrative behind the stratagem as they didn’t seem to understand it. As a stratagem it sucks.
@GeekySkippy4 күн бұрын
Points and FAQ are a huge deal. Reviews are tough when you are guessing. Huge win.
@kellenseaman58063 күн бұрын
Did GW really ask “do you prefer having all the rules and the points at the same time?”
@jb87rell4 күн бұрын
Even as a extremely casual player I like the points as FAQ just because it makes codex reviews more thorough
@lieutenantgothmog43704 күн бұрын
Props to GW for releasing the real rules day 1. More of that please!
@Smeargle-o4i4 күн бұрын
The most important thing in the world is to have codex reviews that come along with the day 1 FAQ and day 1 points updates
@mumblez77124 күн бұрын
Giving content creators the day 1 faqs and points values is a huge W on GW's part
@Jenkans2 күн бұрын
Great review guys! I really appreciate the extra time you took to put in the wording for the detachments and stratagems, it makes the video so much better to be able to see it. I'm glad i was able to see your perspective on these, it changed my mind about some of them. I'm liking the Recon more than i initially thought, though I'm still not on board with you on the tank detachment. The lack of damage buffs seems too big to ignore. GW giving the FAQ and Points right away is huge. And by huge, i mean it should absolutely have been standard practice from the very beginning, and why would you bother with an early release that was missing so much information. Thanks for the video, cheers!
@il_pispi2 күн бұрын
I really appreciate you could review the codex with new points and erratas. Great work, as usual, guys! I can’t wait to see John smashing Emperor’s foes with some spicy lists
@MacNuggetsTV3 күн бұрын
Having the points ahead along with the codex just makes so much sense! Definitely the way to go. I don't even understand why it is even a question!
@Valleval71992 күн бұрын
Krieg Flamer heavy weapons with +1 to wound in a Taurox moving 15“+advance seem quite strong… I think you guys underrate the mechanized detachment :)
@TheGreatWolf444 күн бұрын
Props to GW for making a change regarding points release, hoping that continues
@atomickrispies4 күн бұрын
12:45 - the juicy combo I'm thinking of is a unit of Aquillons deepstriking to a target you intended to kill with a Russ/Dorn. I don't think there's much that would live through that in this game, in conjunction with orders.
@isaachaahr86917 сағат бұрын
I think mechanized assault has the Drukhari skysplinter problem that once your transports start dying you run out of rules and options quickly. I agree with the closing thoughts. GW has changed some thing to try and balance them but ignore the unit on the left which is near identical but did not get those changes.
@Supreme-Mentalman3 күн бұрын
Thank you GW 🙏🏻
@noahandrulis90772 күн бұрын
Ref: Coordinated Action in Combined Arms, I’m fairly certain there’s at least one Leman Russ Cannon option with Rapid Fire, so you can theoretically combine Take Aim and First Rank Fire.
@CuriousLumenwood4 күн бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that there are still SEVEN different datasheets for the Leman Russ tank
@robtype02 күн бұрын
@@CuriousLumenwood the guns vary too much in effectiveness for them to all be one, and you need to be able to take a lot of them for tank companies! But still, they could consolidate them somewhat I'm sure.
@BranarLaire4 күн бұрын
Very big yes on points and faq being great
@kennethsmith78243 күн бұрын
Love that it has useable points! Thanks guys
@alyssonbessani55354 күн бұрын
I really don’t know why they hate super heavies and the Valkyrie… it is almost impossible to field them competitively.
@jorkbartoschkozlowski90974 күн бұрын
Good. Statcheck is boring. Good
@farsightsballs4 күн бұрын
That zoom in on siegs was very strange
@concrescience36422 күн бұрын
im swapping my dorn for a tank commander dorn, and my old tank commander into an eradicator to try it out. gained some points doing this :D
@BaronGunnz014 күн бұрын
Love you guys got some stuff early! I am a Votann player so can’t wait to see what you guys have to say when their codex comes out. Keep up the good work!
@Lumovanis2 күн бұрын
Worth noting that the ogryn bodyguard and Nork had their ripper guns crashed to match the regular ogryn, which they didn't before. The aquilons did get nerfed, they lose the sentry weapon if they move
@mattbrainard16094 күн бұрын
Points values and faq makes all the difference
@IndienessExperiments2 күн бұрын
Don’t remember John saying it or not but I assume the Dorn commander has the squadron keyword as well?
@professionaldork2374 күн бұрын
Echoing the great value of reviews with points. Please GW do more of this
@jonheddleston87552 күн бұрын
"1 CP: Grey Knights don't have an army rule." Cool cool cool.
@Onk3lM0Күн бұрын
A bit sad that the best "Guard" detachment is basically a Tempestus Scions army (Grotmass Detachment). I also don't understand why GW doesn't give us a generic character (singular, not a whole command squad) that can lead Kriegers like the Death Korps Marshal and a generic version of Lord Marshal Dreir.
@DirkReinecke4 күн бұрын
The points and the FAQ being available when doing the review is very much as customer friendly move. It would be better if the book had been better edited, but can you think of the anquish it would have caused if the Scions deepstrike was only revealed much later.
@ZergSmasher3 күн бұрын
Doing a day-1 FAQ and points really cuts down on the feels-bad of having the new book from the box set and not being able to use it even in casual settings. It's understandable why tournaments shouldn't use it as a lot of players won't have it until the general book release, but at least this way players who did pick it up can use their new toys right away. More of this please, GW!
@JackDespero4 күн бұрын
I think that the power of Creeping Barrage is not to make it your plan, but to disrupt that of the enemy. You cannot rely on it to make this or that unit shaken, but you use it to add a wrench into the enemy plans. Suddenly the coordinated attack does not work as one of the units is out of range, etc. For melee armies w/ move, advance and charge it is a -6" debuff! I think that it also pairs great with Basiliks, as you can almost ensure that that one unit of terminators does nothing for a turn, but if you get lucky you can add some icing on the cake.
@ultrasimp24894 күн бұрын
I second that having the correct points is important. If you're going to give competitive focused channels review copies, the competitive channels need the points to be able to give a complete review!
@BigBillMcWillis3 күн бұрын
Day One FAQ and points means I can plan out lists and test stuff for Tournaments early on and is just a beautiful Quality of Life change to 40K and Games Workshop as a whole
@jbw0653 күн бұрын
Voice of Command has changed. It only affects Astra Militarum models now, not units as a whole.
@tatusipola58214 күн бұрын
Not sure if the Hammer of the Emperor detachment rule lets you move over enemy models since it only mentions engagement range, not explicitly moving over like fly and some stratagems do.
@danwoodhouse31344 күн бұрын
@@tatusipola5821 that's what I was thinking too
@hansw153 күн бұрын
Yeah, the rules for movement says that you can not move through an enemy model, but some abilities and keywords like Fly have an exception from this rule. Unless there is a rules change I am not aware of, the detachment rule only allows a Leman Russ to get within 1" of enemy models when moving, but does not allow it to move through/over them.
@jamesmcglough59853 күн бұрын
@artofwar40k can you please confirm if this was day1 FAQed? The engagement range rider as printed is a bit weird (just means they have to block physically the size of your tank, not size +1 inch engagement either side. Since they changed the siege regiment, presumably could also have updated the tank one?
@Bryanchaos33 күн бұрын
FAQ and correct points should be the bare minimum standard
@HughMurphy39521 сағат бұрын
Was the Nork change that he's now a character, so you cant put wounds on him anymore?
@lewispatton65504 күн бұрын
The baneblade can crash through walls, LETS GOOOOO!!!
@tomphilippi75294 күн бұрын
Points and an FAQ out the gate!!!! Amazing! This allows everyone to hit the ground running and really really rewards people for getting the launch box!
@duskworker8469Күн бұрын
where can i find this points list from GW? i can only find data sheet info from youtubers? what is this
@Tsunderrated4 күн бұрын
26:02 The platoon keyword actually existed in the index, only the platoon command squad had anything that cared about it though. The reason they use that keyword instead of battleline is so it wont affect scions when they gain battleline.
@jonathanhaynes99144 күн бұрын
Thanks John and Seigs
@5050_Good_Odds4 күн бұрын
Let's go guard! Also having the faq and points is wonderful
@wuffell9124 күн бұрын
Review with points and faq is goooooood!
@austinlexil14183 күн бұрын
I encourage GW to keep doing this
@skyerangerКүн бұрын
Basilisk @ 140 points ... RIP and back onto the shelf :(
@hardrada84074 күн бұрын
I’m delighted in general (breathing a sigh of relief regarding scion deep strike). However I think gw have messed up with bullgryn. A full on balance fail. At 180 with orders you saw 18 every time (too strong). At 220 with orders winning lists were seen fielding around 9ish (perfect?). 220 no orders they are just gathering dust. Just put the abhuman orders back on solar imo.
@JackDespero4 күн бұрын
26:20 unless they have faq it, that also means that the "engaged" unit can shoot, which is the main advantage over fall back, as then they couldnt shoot.
@paulinuss4 күн бұрын
GW finally is moving in right direction. I understand, that it will be a lag between the print of hard copy, and rules erratas, that's unavoidable with current release schedule. But "day one patch" available with codex release? That can be done, and I expect that GW won't ask us, just do it, starting like a year ago. And that's awesome. Proper point changes should be easy to prepare and test on time, for release date. Especially obnoxious or wrongly worded rules too. I understand, that polish and balance after all changes can take longer, and that's ok, we can wait. But coarse errata day one is a must.
@apocalyplant684 күн бұрын
@ArtofWar you do have a detachment that helps mounted, recon element benefits the horses and they can redeploy with scouting outriders, you can also give them courageous diversion strat too
@carminebattista32494 күн бұрын
Like the steel legion backdrop ( dkok started as a variant paint job for steel legion )
@Swordsmansmith874 күн бұрын
I was excited to try mech guard. Now i think its dead on arrival. Guard army staying on the shelf.
@heathengeneral22994 күн бұрын
I just realized the Hamme of the Emperor is the Baneblade Detachment. Advance 6 and move through terrain all with fire after advance would allow Baneblades to actually move in games.
@effeks20004 күн бұрын
Really awesome that GW gives you the day 1 FAQ and points. Makes these reviews so much more useful. Also thanks for the great content! Can't wait to see the games!
@KharnTheBtrayer4 күн бұрын
Something that could be very interesting in hammer is tauroxes advancing 18-21inches guarenteed and can go through walls for a cp, then with its ability the squad inside can still get out and do actions or shoot. Kasrkin for long range damage protection or catachans for super long range primary denial / behind enemy lines type plays seems decent imo.
@campbell919884 күн бұрын
Massive W for having the points and FAQ, hell yeah
@adampeterson91714 күн бұрын
Not having a 6 week limbo on points is the best. Can actually make lists correctly from the get go. Amazing
@TelionReincroftКүн бұрын
42:20 Listen, I'm a lore junky and even I'm like...this is a dumb way to represent a last stand for a tank. It should have just been a shoot on death strategem.
@disardor4 күн бұрын
Heck yeah for correct points and the FAQ❤
@billnye55114 күн бұрын
Please GW, continue to have points and day one FAQ for the exceptions where you have ti make changes post print! I get changes need to be made post print, this is the best way to deal with it! Thank you!
@austinlexil14183 күн бұрын
The Ratlings eat the dog.
@wraithship4 күн бұрын
1:28:27 scions going up 5 points, whilst also losing deepstrike seems a bit unfair to me. And valks are still very expensive
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Not in the Codex FAQ they regain it.
@2guys...1table18Күн бұрын
Don’t talk shit on final hour (tank hazardous strat) it’ll be good if u have like 3 wounds left on a tank that survived a charge and wants to shoot out at no penalty, and if you’ve already used the fall back and shoot strat
@malal47264 күн бұрын
What about the deepstrike on regular scions? You didn't mention is it present or not. Said that this is the same datasheet as aquilons, but in the book there is no deep strike in the regular datasheet.
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
They both have Deep Strike thanks to the new Codex FAQ
@CynicalOptimist994 күн бұрын
Mentioned at the end, they do have it
@VTS554 күн бұрын
I really like how they are releasing points & FAQ. As a DA player that had the codex & Deathwing Assault box, it was really weird to not know the points for 3+ Weeks.
@walgreenspharmacy90974 күн бұрын
GW please always release new points with your rules, give us the files!!!!
@allenedwards75954 күн бұрын
@14:50 yay you can still get cover in the open when you draw that mission rule where you can't go to ground turn 1. Niche as can be.
@ecihangir894 күн бұрын
I support GW including correct points and errata/FAQ for content creators prior to codex release.
@mattd28384 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention that Scions lost deepstrike. This is hugely important
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
They didn't see our discussion of the Codex FAQ in the review!
@robertandersen41644 күн бұрын
Day 1 FAQ and points is vital to actually understanding what we will be looking at. I frankly am uncertain why they publish points in the book at all lol
@WTFChickens4 күн бұрын
I like that we get the points, but for the FaQ I could see an argument to wait just so they can hear more questions that we ask after us seeing it, but if you give us a rough outline that's great. So they give you the FaQ for any typos and other stuff they have planned, but reserve the right to add more/change it on day 1 of the release. Also, if you could leave a freeze frame of all the points at the end, or put the points below the name of the unit that shows up in the editing when you are talking about the units, that would be great in the future, that way I can pop back to the video to see the points quickly rather than trying to listen for when you guys say the points.
@counterwaveable4 күн бұрын
I don’t know why everyone is praising GW on a job well done with a Day One FAQ and points update. Why is that happening in the first place? I buy my codex and day one, its already out of date. Digital rules now please. This is just silly.
@alyssonbessani55354 күн бұрын
Amazing you guys have the correct points! That’s the way to go GW!
@im2randomghgh4 күн бұрын
Awesome to see the points available right away - I wasn't expecting to play this until March! How do we feel about scions losing deepstrike?
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Scions have deep strike with the codex FAQ, see the review
@adept55004 күн бұрын
So much more helpful!
@martinreinhold22434 күн бұрын
Is there a chance for a video about the impact or changes with these new rules for the blood brother detachment of the genstealer cult?
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Tag John or Nick in the discord and see what their thoughts are!
@mortalwombatify4 күн бұрын
valuable day one faq is valuable! wish it was stuck up on the website first rather than through reviewers with preview copies, but still welcome
@FairRarity4 күн бұрын
Comment and a like to show that GWs gets big W for sharing intent to have it be playable on drop.
@Maladictus4 күн бұрын
Does the Death Korp let you take the Vox plus the 2 special weapons in a 10 man because the vox has 3 *** instead of 2 ** so it isn't subject to the same restriction in the 2 ** note?
@alejandroavileshernandez71524 күн бұрын
I dont understand why when 1 army have many datasheets usefull , gw change these,the códex seems good but many datasheets as manticore will not be Played never. I dont understand that
@GreyShirtGuy4 күн бұрын
Do the three different Heavy Weapon Teams all have different base sizes?
@SeussExMachina4 күн бұрын
Did y'all miss that Scions lost deep strike?
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Not in the Codex FAQ
@SeussExMachina4 күн бұрын
@@ArtofWar40k Best news I've heard in a long time. Bridgehead is still viable.
@shaolin1004 күн бұрын
Did catachan heavy weapon squad keep 6" scout?
@tylerchadwell12674 күн бұрын
You guys reference a day-1 FAQ. where is that found?
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
It will be released alongside the boxset
@calebs92914 күн бұрын
Why is the tank detachment not just Necrons Starshatter? Give all tanks assault. Easy fix to this not exciting book.
@KampferNL4 күн бұрын
“Depending on the points”
@EggmovieX4 күн бұрын
Not this time.
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
This review contains the new MFM points and Codex FAQ that will release with the boxset
@KampferNL4 күн бұрын
@@ArtofWar40k oooh, i was to hasty with my assertion
@ninjagumpi4 күн бұрын
Did scions lose Deepstrike?
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Codex FAQ adds the keyword back
@ninjagumpi4 күн бұрын
@@ArtofWar40k I love you!
@Gomorra19894 күн бұрын
Do I see myself getting 6 Dorns on the table? Maybe :D
@Darkja4 күн бұрын
No support for super heavies beyond maybe a single stratagem, even in the detachment that should help all tanks... no army rules, no detachment rules, no overwatch, nothing. Message received loud and clear GW, no fun allowed.
@AlexandreGaucher-uv3lp4 күн бұрын
i just wish thie got squadron keyword ore change the bs for 3 up
@DiceandGlory4 күн бұрын
John. The ratlings eat the dog.
@sterlingroutson-thomas53574 күн бұрын
Yay day one faq.
@johnchaves16424 күн бұрын
I heard Relic Pistol?
@stephen9to54 күн бұрын
Scions lost deepstrike. That's huge
@ArtofWar40k4 күн бұрын
Not in the Codex FAQ they regain it.
@mistamomo4 күн бұрын
Watch the video ffs
@wraithship4 күн бұрын
@@mistamomo I didn't hear them correct that in the video. They never mentioned the deep strike when talking about scions