Do Cheap Amazon Outboard Electronics Work?

[@esucll]

i use a solar charge controller between my rectifier and my battery because it can handle any type of input voltage (up to 70 volts) and convert it to 14.6V for my battery to charge. This solved my problem with the high voltage output my cheap rectifier gave

[@briansegarra9312]

Which solar charge controller did you get ? I have been thinkering with different dc to dc converter for another project butt a solar charge controller would work i dint think about thatt before

[@mathehack1]

Great idea, they also do a great job at managing the charging and support lithium.

[@NiallWardrop]

@@briansegarra9312 Most solar controllers aren't suitable for other charging sources.

[@jamesaustralian9829]

​@@NiallWardropcorrect. You do not want to put them into a system with an alternator or any other charging source other than a solar panel.

[@fishonkayakadventure]

the amazon coil that I got was garbage, so was the replacement. a simple bench test showed both faulty. ended up getting a Suzuki part and have zero problems now

[@Mikeschammy]

I’ve put cheap Amazon parts on my 70HP 4 stroke Suzuki and on my 40hp 2 stroke evinrude. Both run great. 4 years running strong

[@JeffBattleFish]

Same here 2001 Evinzuki 4 stroke $100 fuel pump. Worked for two years at least till I sold the boat. Suzuki wanted $300.

[@Tb0n3]

It's a matter of the manufacturer having the cost of the initial design factored into the price whereas the copies don't have any design work and they only have parts to pay for. It's not a problem until people stop designing things.

[@ct1762]

yep they are like smoking.... 50% of the time they work... every time

[@simon-oy6um]

Gonna have a burnt out impeller soon 😮

[@marcosj7134]

I'm so jealous of that 90hp yamaha. Best triple ever

[@BornAgainBoating]

Great engine

[@mikes1776]

I installed a $20.00 Amazon rectifier/regulator on my kingquad 700. Its voltage output was good, but it went into a meltdown after 2-hours of use. Ended up putting out for a factory one, Suzuki, $120.00, now I have many hours without a failure.

[@toddthemitchell]

The dc-dc charger should be connected to your starting battery. You may also be drawing too many amps from the regulator for both batteries. Try and lower the charging amps on the dcdc and see if you get different results. Connecting the dcdc to the starting battery will only draw power from it when the voltage is high enough to charge the lithium, or you can put a relay on the ignition power and use the relay outputs to switch the dcdc on and off.

[@poebemaryn]

and higher rpm's and use a multimeter. dont trust the app shit

[@barney2001]

If you pop for lithium and a Victron, the $100 more for Yamaha part is small change compared to all you have spent upgrading the boat. IMHO. Merry Christmas.

[@hogfish3881]

It’s mostly likely your lithium battery is demanding charge close to 100A and your rectifier can only supply 50A or so. Or you said you had dc to dc charger? Maybe it’s made for lead acid type of battery and need to see some resistance? Try connecting in parallel regular battery to your lithium, that may help you solve the issue

[@BornAgainBoating]

Yeah, I think most set ups are for use with a lead start battery and a lithium house battery and the DC-DC is pulling charge power from the start battery, but we're trying to do it without the lead battery. I just ordered some resistors to see if that puts a "load" on it making the DC-DC work properly :/

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

Be interesting to see what the Amazon part is actually doing using a scope.

[@orlandoduran7740]

replaced one on a 06 2stroke 50 yamaha with the amazon one and worked perfect

[@adventuresofaboatguy]

I tried a cheap rectifier for my Yamaha 9.9 kicker because Yamaha doesn’t have them anymore for my motor. I ended up returning it and found a used one on EBay.

[@Paulman50]

Without the DC to DC charger the alternator will deliver too much current when the battery is flat, this will overheat the alternator.

[@projectsdontstop8441]

Thanks for all of the advice. Merry Christmas. I find the cheap parts hit and miss.

[@kyzor-sosay6087]

You could probably send your electronics to a company called UpFix in Buford,Ga.They did a refurbish on my transmission control module.Did an outstanding job.

[@BornAgainBoating]

Awesome, thank you for the heads up, I just emailed them and asked some questions about what all the do, we'll see what they say :)

[@kyzor-sosay6087]

@@BornAgainBoating you’re welcome,hope they can help

[@renzconlon6736]

Ive burnt up a few of those voltage rectifiers from amazon when they fail they can get real hot.

[@doost6233]

Chinese manufacturers do not have quality control I purchase some electronic components sometimes they do not work or not up to specifications.

[@andreireal9158]

the problem with the cheap ones is that they are very rpm-dependent, that means voltage may exceed safe levels when you throttle up. And while it's sort of ok on a lead acid battery, the lithium one might get damaged, esp without dc-dc converter

[@Yamahaoutboardguy5090]

Merry Christmas Aaron and thanks for all the great vids! I try to buy only OEM parts. I would never trust anything aftermarket apart from Sierra or EMP.

[@BornAgainBoating]

Thank you! Hope you had a Great Christmas as well and Hope you have a Great New Years too :)

[@bubbagump1452]

I’ve bought Amazon trim relays for Yamaha sometimes they work great but sometimes they don’t so I’ve been using Yamaha relays cost more but seems to work better oh who is your team in college football again great content

[@trouttrackerparkcity]

Did you really start the engine out of the water? Probably ought to add a new impeller to your list of parts to buy real soon!!!!!

[@stevejones9832]

You could see it pumping water

[@nobody46820]

Ask yourself this, "Would you trust your life and/or the lives of your family/friends to cheap parts?" 🤔

[@sjd73ss]

Yes most of the time they are all made by same exact contractor so??

[@gonzalomanriquezjr864]

I mean I spent 13 years of my life trusting the life of myself and my friends in the Army, the king of cheap parts and products lol

[@nobody46820]

@@sjd73ss If that's a FACT then O.K.....

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

This isn't an airplane, is it? I'd be concerned about a lithium fire next to my house in the middle of the night.

[@ct1762]

@@sjd73ss no lol. CDI and oem are NOT the same as the cheap stuff. not remotely.

[@doost6233]

Amazon must sell the stuff that are not working properly.

[@tm8747]

THE PROBLEM WITH AMAZON mos tof the parts do come from a chinese base companies , that amazon purchases from all the time then marks up the price . i bet them part came from TEMU ,

[@abpob6052]

I have found they work well but their lifespan is significantly shorter than the OEM version. I had the OEM starter on a Force 90 for 20 yrs before it gave out. No OEM replacements available so I got a quality Amazon replacement. I have to get a new starter every season now.

[@primetimefishing2436]

Great video. What is the app you are using to check the charging of the battery? Is there a device that also being used? I would love to use that on my boat!

[@BornAgainBoating]

It's the Victron app which is for the DC-DC charger and the Epoch Batteries app for the battery BMS on the battery

[@primetimefishing2436]

@BornAgainBoating thanks man! I love the videos! I would love to see a video of your bullynet boat whaler in action.

[@OfficerDave78]

Merry Christmas 🎁🎄

[@BornAgainBoating]

Thank you, hope you had a great Christmas and Happy New Year coming up :)

[@OfficerDave78]

I did! Even though I had to work I was still able to celebrate. Hopefully you did to and Hopefully the new years is awesome for you and I am looking forward to more videos!

[@Happy11807]

Do you have a hose hooked up to the water inlet?

[@jo24pafisher]

Did you watch the video? Clearly not.

[@Gmtail]

Most outboards don’t have a true regulated voltage output, and they need a load in order to keep things balanced. A 20 watt 10 ohm load resistor should work with that older outboards amperage output, but that’s easily calculable with ohms law. Once you do that, the DC-DC charger should get the proper voltages. I’ve put the resistors before the DC charger.

[@BornAgainBoating]

Thank you, I just ordered some resistors and we'll see how that goes :)

[@aymanabouseif2915]

Is it Amazon branded or just from Amazon .. there is a difference

[@hookednrolling2009]

Bring the extra one with you!

[@georgelindsey3925]

Are you running the motor without water

[@jo24pafisher]

Watch the video lol

[@jamesaustralian9829]

The more I see how fiddly these boat motors are, the more inclined I am to peg my one overboard and buy a set of oars and start rowing.

[@BornAgainBoating]

Lol :)

[@moonobservergilles5730]

why did you not ask the motor company about those boosters in the first place there must be a reason why one is 20 $$ and the other 130 $ no?

[@gregm8941]

What app and code reader are you using? Thanks.

[@BornAgainBoating]

The app is for Victron which is the DC-DC charger and the other is the battery app for the Epoch BMS LiFePO4 battery

[@kylewalker7072]

That's probably why your first regulator rectifier failed

[@9mmmike642]

Rectum Regulator from the ‘Zon?

[@davidecramp]

If the BMS stops charging the Lithium battery, will that cause your rectifier to fail on over voltage?

[@BornAgainBoating]

Yeah, if the BMS shuts off the engine will shut off because it will disconnect from the engine :/ but if it just stops accepting charge voltage but stays connected and putting out power, the stator rec/reg will do who knows what. Because they should see the battery voltage which is what they use to change output power, like if they don't see a battery or a weak battery, they go to full output to try and get that voltage back to where they want to see it. So idk lol still trying to figure it out lol

[@DennisKenneybees]

What was the software you were using on your phone?

[@damodoesall6240]

Victron connect app

[@fmb-fishingmeansbusiness]

@@damodoesall6240it looked like the batteries Bluetooth app.

[@BornAgainBoating]

Victron for DC-DC charger and the Epoch App for the LiFePO4 battery

[@garyradtke3252]

Theirs a reason one is $20 and one is $130 and it's not as much greed as people think.

[@remocres]

i bought a carb for a snapper mower with a brigds engine factory wanted 90 bucks plus shipping. i forget if it was amazon or ebay 17 bucks shipped worked fine so got one for my coleman generater worked good trouble id even if its got factory name from the company who made it it can be even made in same china factory same with hyundai coil packs got 4 on amazon for half of one from the big 3 so called discount parts stors .no wonder there shutting many down and i noticed in sw fl you check to see if stors have the part you need and they list sa4 the lowest price not available in your local store or within 100-150 miles but amazon has it .ebay is not as reliable last couple yrs and lot of counterfit

[@Daniel-f6t4v]

They work great...until they don't. And usually fail with no warning. I've had better luck with DB Electrical but even they don't last as long as OEM. If it's something non-critical (trim relay, etc) then you can save a few bucks but not worth getting stranded.

[@fmb-fishingmeansbusiness]

This is what I want to know, do the new dual purpose lifep04 batteries need dc/dc charger protection or not! Let us know what Victron thinks!

[@BornAgainBoating]

Victron only sends you to a "dealer" and they "troublshoot" or give you FAQ's to research you problem unless you bought the DC-DC from them lol so not much info on that. I think it's not really the batteries that need the DC-DC but rather the engine's charging system. Most newer engines have the alternators and rec/regs set up to be able to work without the DC-DC. It just gets tricky on older stuff that has a stator on it :/ hints 2-strokes lol Still working on figuring it all out, pretty much anything will work with a DC-DC if you leave a lead acid start battery in and use a Li battery for the house with the DC-DC in between. That set up is virtually universal with any set up. :/

[@fmb-fishingmeansbusiness]

@@BornAgainBoating thanks, yeah it makes sense. Nice to see Mercury outline their lithium specs for their engines. Love your work, if you ever want to catch some Canadian Halibut or King Salmon, look me up, happy to take you out.

[@jaydee7454]

with the US right to repair laws they can probably get the circuit diagram for these and you could make your own with 50 times better quality certainly would like the mercury diagrams and could make them for you

[@iwejun]

No water pumping through?

[@andreholkamp6446]

clearly visible, the water is on.

[@s0nnyburnett]

Works fine for now, probably last a couple years. Not worth the money when it stops working and puts everyones life in danger at the wrong time or ruins a perfect day on the water over a few dollars and that is something you'll never get back. Not worth wrecking potential good memories over money.

[@kylewalker7072]

You should not be using a lithium ion battery with that outboard

[@manuelbover4816]

You get what you pay for anything to do with the engine I would buy Yamaha parts

[@chugaaa]

I wonder if all these results will change if you put the boat on full load for a while, on the water (fot), radio, lights, gps, everything...maybe this will fry your $12 scam-amazon investment lol. 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@BornAgainBoating]

Yeah, it's possible, but also possible to burn up the stator at the same time :(

[@garthbews4863]

mine works fine..

[@Stevexnycautomotive]

Payless, get less. Perfect deal.

[@ct1762]

guys don't buy this cheap crap! CDI or Yamaha only. a bad diode in a rectifier will wreak havoc on your stator power coils and could easily cause a fire. very simple to test these properly.

[@larsrodbok1285]

Don’t buy from Amazon until the strike is over, please!