Do Controllers have the Advantage in Warzone?

Recently there's been a lot of talk about mouse and keyboard vs controllers in Modern Warfare's Warzone Battle Royale and many players feel that controller players have the advantage over mouse and keyboard due to aim assist. Today I wanted to share my thoughts on this topic as well as dispel a few common misconceptions relating to aim assist. Which input do you use more and what are your thoughts on this?
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[@billy2204]

As a PC player, I'm just happy to have crossplay. The other night I was able to play with my 2 friends, one on an Xbox and one on a PS4.

[@tanboii2015]

That's facts. The only reason I love cod this year is because of that. Do you think next years cod will have crossplay?

[@MrJbedo]

@@tanboii2015 as a pc player with all my cod friends that would make me not buy next years cod for sure

[@jefmoesy]

@@MrJbedo U know u can turn it off right? i just find allot more cheaters when i turn it off cuz on console those are rare and most of my games are 90% consolers.

[@AskinggTV]

Exactly. The ability to play with your mates who don't have the same system as you is something we've all been waiting for... Come on...

[@StudioNetcom]

@@jefmoesy Lol, I turn it off on my PS4 for the exact same reason. Hackers on PC... Too bad those few hackers gives such a bad reputation to the whole PC gaming community... I wish something could be done to prevent hacking on PC...

[@hanlin5464]

climbing up those 10 floors building using a mouse is devastating

[@morph3257]

My wrist is massive

[@junzi44]

Hahahah bro I am so tired of flicking my mouse to get up 12 stories quickly to just get shot by a camper at the top XD

[@futurelink5967]

Your dpi is too low, if you're having a problem taking the corner.

[@junzi44]

@@futurelink5967 just out of curiosity, cuz I am a PC noob. Only been playing for a year, was on console for 10 years haha. What is a good DPI then? My mouse sensitivity is at 7. I find that works good for me to 180 on people shooting me from the back, and I can also laserbeam targets at midrange. But up close I am pretty f*cked like Ace says in the video. It is really really hard to track a target right in front of me on mouse and keyboard. Any tips welcome

[@Phosphor66]

@@junzi44 you want to have a low DPI and large area to move your mouse in. this allows you to still be able to turn quickly by moving your mouse a lot, but also allows you to stay precise by only moving the mouse a bit. i personally play on 800 DPI, 11.6 sensitivity, which is honestly a little high but that's how i prefer it.

[@sethhall1468]

You forgot the advantage us controller players have being able to spin in a circle while defusing the bomb in search and destroy.

[@VaporValkerie]

True true, the ultimate skill

[@carbonclaw7280]

@MonoBK His point still remains lmao

[@muhammadfairuzzaky9532]

@MonoBK I know! #HeStoopid

[@IJFJJAJI]

You can do that on PC...

[@fearxlesstristan3245]

MS nah your mouse would fall off your desk

[@frenchbeans]

Guitar Hero controller here : You guys all just beam the hell out of me-I don’t care what you say, but we really gotto balance my guitar so it’s possible to compete against controller AND mouse/keyboard.

[@Denny4765]

WarriorKeens i use my ukulele and man i am a god at shooting

[@lhawk120]

I play with the rockband microphone and smoke everybody easily, it honestly needs a nerf.

[@frenchbeans]

Alright, we got four--who's down to start a band?

[@RobotsOnFire]

You're the best dude, lmao

[@reaper_playz1163]

Pfft i use a gaming piano to dominate everyone

[@newnum2]

Most annoying aim assist is when you are trying to aim at one dude, and another guy runs by in the background and pulls your cross hairs off of him.

[@averagejoe91hd87]

Bruce Handover i play on a PS4 that doesn’t happen in war zone this isn’t mp

[@MrSakic89]

Thats why i use precision. Before i did disable aim assist but decided in the end join in aim assist camp

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

YETIGAMEINGVIDS it is universal to all consoles and is available in both modes

[@husamfahad7690]

bro just shoot faster there shouldnt be enough time for that to happen.

[@johan8602]

@@averagejoe91hd87 it is definately in Warzone..had a game yesterday where I aimed at a guy and then an ATV passed by and the aim assist locked on to him instead..

[@bodhidavis1691]

PC players: those console players are lowkey cheating with aim assist! me on ps4 with aim assist: *misses shotgun shot from like 5 feet away*

[@UNKNOWN-ll4yt]

Bodhi Davis Nah man you just suck

[@hadziu6286]

@@UNKNOWN-ll4yt made my day xD

[@lostrelokos5856]

The same here I don't even notice as controller player I have aim assist ... maybe I belong to the noob liga...

[@slaggerthord31]

Pc players: aim assist is unfair because I don't have it Me on pc: *smashes brightness to 1000% so I can actually see myself in the killcam instead of a black rectangle*

[@tlee-gc6ym]

Los tre Lokos you don’t notice until you try to play with it turned off, you’ll notice it then

[@mathiasg2204]

I'm a pc player and I need cross-platform to play with 90% of my friends

[@johannesmuermans1065]

Same here

[@jaconova]

Not really the question here, eh, kid?

[@antnay_beastz9361]

being a kid with the blessing of being able to make money underage and a PC of my own, i can confirm this is true because everyone still has consoles

[@spreiik]

The only issue I have with aim assist is how console players can seemingly eat stun grenades and not be effected....

[@adamcudi]

YexaC stfu

[@c05rs]

my favourite part of console is when you scope in and the landscape 200m away looks like something out of a ps2 game

[@calebsimmons1034]

Favorite part of my day

[@ZachDxn]

Just buy a computer 😅

[@c05rs]

Zach Dixon yeah dw i got money lying around 🤨

[@aaronrogers644]

@@ZachDxn well we soooooo dont have the money

[@aaronrogers644]

@@ZachDxn who tf uses physical newspapers anymore everythings online and pcs are so expensive now and technology is so advanced that a 300 dollar pc will run 20 frames

[@rileymorgan4879]

Im just saying m&k players hit me in the head with HDRs like it's their day job

[@someweeb3650]

For some reason I hit the most BS headshots with the HDR in warzone. Like their head hitboxes are bigger when you equip it.

[@stephenmel8630]

He hugely downplayed the sniping advantage. It is not even close, a mediocre KBM sniper can out-snipe a great console player all day.

[@wessturdevant6260]

Stephen Mel it’s not even close, m&k players just want to downplay their advantage bc right now console is forced to play with PC and I’m sure they are loving that bc of the massive advantage. I mean slaying dudes easily and consistently would be incredibly fun and make you feel like a god but I guarantee when they finally allow to disable MOST console players will disable and then we will see how much the PC community loves it!

[@SomeRandomHobo1000]

​@@wessturdevant6260 At least on PS4, crossplay isn't actually forced at the moment, but I think disabling it limits it to only your console rather than just taking PC players out of the equation. The only caveat is that it gives an annoying notification multiple times while searching for a lobby to suggest you enable crossplay to improve matchmaking, but just selecting "No" leaves it disabled. I don't have an Xbox to confirm if Microsoft is requiring crossplay to be enabled on their version because of Windows. Regardless, you still have to worry about M&K players on that console, but it's far less prevalent and there's less risk of running into cheaters

[@benwagner742]

Try moving

[@Lobanium]

I've always heard controller skill has a higher floor, but a lower ceiling. M/K has a lower floor, but a higher ceiling. The worst M/K user will be worse than the worst controller player because M/K is harder to master. But the best controller player will have no chance against the best M/K player.

[@prkr_ae]

guess you haven't seen any of the gunfight tournaments

[@Tearynite]

@@prkr_ae Right, you'd think that Shroud like Aim would be able to beat a good controller player. But nah, Shroud's aim is human and Controller's aim is not. Aim assist tracks enemies like Shroud times 500x.

[@arilaine3082]

Jordan Lee 😂🤣🤦‍♂️

[@katser5023]

@@Tearynite lmao fanboy

[@j.krollin1307]

Aim assist does nothing in fast paced games, it only tracks enemy that run past your pre aim... For example I aimed at some bushes and had no clue anyone was there untill my aim assist told me lol

[@KyTyko]

The STRONGEST AIM ASSIST in history is in GTA 5 Online.

[@SoggyOG]

The last of us 1 was crazy too

[@blackimage2320]

Facts

[@alanbrito3805]

That's not called aim assist

[@AB-rg1kb]

Ikr

[@AB-rg1kb]

Fucking aim not but you can’t aim on that game

[@cats4hir3]

I'm still amazed with people who plays FPS with controller. I tried that and it didn't work. Aim assist on, still fine tuning the aiming with your thumb is hard.

[@Heo_Ashrafenko]

Exactly, aim assist only works for close quarters twitchy smg plays. Snipers and shotguns for example destroy with a mouse

[@AdamXV-]

Someone understands, aim assist isn’t exactly aimbot like some claim it to be

[@invisibel3211]

Try dynamic and focusing it's amazing

[@heatnup]

If you’ve used both m&k and a controller and are used to both the controller seems to have an advantage imo. This comes from someone who got their first gaming pc 7 months ago. I’d say I’ve gotten really good with m&k but after switching back to controller the aim assist is so much and it becomes so much easier to track people which is the type of aiming that you use most in fps. Not to mention the fov and FPS isn’t a problem on pc and you can still use a controller and most importantly queue with mainly controller players so it becomes a lot easier

[@heatnup]

Aim assist also raises the floor for the average console player. Meaning that a noob could kill an average pc player because of aim assist

[@howdoichangemyusername9802]

I’ve honestly played console so long that doing pc is like learning a foreign language. Seeing me play on pc is the same as seeing an old man learning how to use the computer.

[@luridftwgaming8983]

That’s exactly how it is for me the other way around.

[@uechanchung]

Use controller on pc

[@Col_Khlebnikov]

Same I can barely play with mouse and keyboard. P.S. Nice profile picture.

[@Bestgameplayer10]

I’m used to playing on console but I’ve been playing without a controller for so long (since I’ve migrated to PC), I can hardly aim anymore with a controller! Lol

[@TrueGreyJedi]

i absolutely feel your pain!

[@eco_2128]

60 fps on console?! It feels more like 30 at times honestly

[@TheHammerAndAnvil]

Depends entirely on what console youre playing on. Original Xbox one runs around 45fps most the time, ps4 a little better, but the ps4 pro and Xbox one X run a solid 60 with very little drops

[@Gargys]

As do I on my PC..

[@xehP]

It’s always been 60fps

[@eco_2128]

@@xehP i'm 100% sure that some games such as world of tanks are still 30fps and fortnite used to aswell i think

[@Jablickymorant]

@TheHammerAndAnvil so false

[@GozzerP]

I play pc and console a lot including this game and I appreciate how hard it is to actually aim precisely on controller and i agree there are some advantages and disadvantages both ways but for me as someone who loves sniping that is the biggest advantage to pc players on controller you just can’t compete with the speed of a flick

[@liondavid101stpsf2]

I just came to watch this because I never would have thought controller had any advantage over mouse and keyboard ( aside from easier 360 no scopes)

[@bamlakuasmare1140]

Thats not a advantage pc players can just adjust their sense

[@brajuhani]

Controller just get pretty crazy aim-assist. Have seen some ridiculous misses with snipers, that register as one shot headshots. But yea, mouse + kb is overall better.

[@Bolty007]

@@brajuhani Aim assist has nothing to do with sniper shot registration I turn it off for sniping sometimes and it feels no different

[@Ghost_Cire]

Aim assist is op, it gave me inhuman reactions

[@MacTac141]

@@Ghost_Cire Thats just called aimbot my friend and if you’re a hacker gtfo

[@matthornbeck5748]

I play on both and am really surprised not too see more comments about aim assist slowdown giving away enemy positions, especially in bushes. Has saved me a few times in late circles.

[@canehdiansteve3455]

That's what I thought as soon as I saw the slowdown. Sometimes people can be easy to miss, but not quite so easy when your aim slows down on them. That would be a dead giveaway.

[@Tarmaccafe]

Shhhh don’t tell too many people lmao

[@fluffyunicorn3907]

Matt Hornbeck well don't hide is a bush like a noob

[@BrianEmpa]

CanehdianSteve So you are one of the noobs who walks while ADS-ing ?

[@matthornbeck5748]

Fluffy Unicorn390 you should re-read my comment

[@I-un0]

After playing with both for a long time i can safely say keyboard and mouse is so so so much easier and precise. Even with aa on controller I perform so much better on keyboard and mouse.

[@johnryan3622]

I prefer KB&M too, although the aim assist is really really easy to game for free headshots at mid-range. I think the only people who would struggle with this are people who don't understand how to move your sticks to let the aa to the work.

[@Coeey]

John Ryan Ive played very little with KB&M but while I did it’s so easy to recognize a difference in aim to a controller. The only thing I find difficult is sniping, on controller it seems so much easier to me.

[@shaneruffin5728]

Controller has aim assist it's so easy. But I dont complain when I dominate on the PC platform

[@Coeey]

Kilimanjaro yeah pc it’s easy to dominate console players unless they’re really good 😂

[@qiyuxuan9437]

The only major problem the aim assist in mw really annoying is it can sometimes track you behind cover that can be shoot through.

[@reegarcarbinex906]

Let's just unite guys, we have a common enemy, our enemy are hackers. I hate hackers in warzone especially in ground war wherein they clock in at least 70 kills and most of it headshots.

[@okss1991]

Yes hackers with auto-aim set on max help kill them all

[@nochillin2106]

nah our enemies are the guys playing with their Nintendo fitness mat

[@98ma]

That's console player in a nutshell. It's aimbot not aim assist.

[@mikelem3891]

@@98ma stop

[@olliee2353]

70 kills in ground war does not make you a hacker... I've gotten over 100 in krovnik farmland multiple times

[@Southern13oi]

Here's the big three issues that I as a PC player have with crossplay/aim assist as it pertains to Warzone. I 100% recognize that I as a PC player have advantages especially when it comes to medium to long ranged combat. There is no competition with a good mouse and being able to switch my DPI profiles on the fly from SMG to Sniping mode. The issue I have is Warzone is guaranteed to end in a low to medium ranged conflict where controller's have the absolute advantage with Aim Assist. First 3/4 of the game I have few problems combating controller players.... it's that last 1/4 of the game that's the problem and can't out fire that aim assist. The second problem I have with controllers/crossplay is that yea there are a lot of PC hackers and I wish each one of them lead a very painfully miserable life but the explosion of the Modded Controller and Controller Mod Kits market is insane. It takes the already good flame of aim assist and dumps gas onto it. Pretty much turns the Aim Assist into an actual Aim Bot and puts 0 recoil on all weapons. While PC players do hack they run the pretty high risk of perma ban where as Console players run these mod kits and have zero chance of being caught because they are not altering game files they are just modding the controller so it's undetectable. The third issue I have is not having the "choice" to not be in console matches. PS4 at least get's the option. We are forced into it.

[@ptythefool]

The annoyance building in his attitude toward the end is topkek.

[@zokai9966]

@@Ajay-fk3xv dawg... back then console and PC were not linked together and were entirely seperate, only current New generation consoles are able to play with PC players. AND CURRENT NEW GENERATION CONSOLES CAN'T HAVE HACKS ON THEM. It is litterly impossible to play online with Hacks on console and there has never been a case for it. Only PC players have hacks. And if you're pairing the worst console player and PC player CONSOLE would still lose...

[@Jaywesterlow]

@@Ajay-fk3xv thats not comparing the worst console player with the worst pc player, you're acting like a bad console player doesnt have to look down at their controller just because it has less buttons. The pc player still has an aim advantage because they have more control over their aim, that control comes with experience on console with or without aim assist and THE VERY DEFINITION OF AUTO AIM is the ads button doing the aiming for you instead of the right analog. THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN MW MP AND WARZONE DUMBASS

[@Jaywesterlow]

@@Ajay-fk3xv and hacking on old cod games is a stupid example bc those are not supported anymore you will find 0 HACKERS on supported CoD titles on console

[@EssentialMeditation]

Zokai new ones can have hacks on them but ok

[@iXlnte]

Ajay idiot.

[@duevix9763]

Let’s just take a moment to remember GTA 5 aim assist, or should I say aimbot.

[@2Beasty]

That's the reason I hate online. I pray they have a complete overhaul on the aiming in the next game.

[@ftfxhailstorm2916]

It sucks because fighting NPCs with free aim is impossible. Free aiming is so strange compared to any other game. Can't explain why, but the aiming is odd.

[@dannybtw]

You should see the Division 2 as well. But since that game doesn't have cross play it's not a problem I guess

[@joseespinoza4518]

If you turn off aim assist on console it throws you in to lobbies with others who also have it disabled. The more you know😊

[@TJK1025]

Remember? I still play gta 5 mostly everyday lol

[@christianrogers8297]

I’m a console player, and my worst issue with controllers is that I sometimes hit the melee button on accident. Idk if others have this problem, but if you suddenly melee in almost any gunfight you’re dead.

[@Fidedignissimo]

Change you controller so crouch is on your right thumb stick click.

[@hectordelarocha10]

Switch to Tactical. No controller pro plays without R3 as crouch.

[@dysphxric]

Hector De la Rocha except JGOD

[@istaffz9464]

@@dysphxric he’s not pro

[@dreamshots7927]

The problem is with skill based matchmaking. We ( KBM players) aren’t playing “ the average controller player”. We are playing sweaty ass kids that know aim assist through and through. They know how to lock on to the head ( especially with pistols). They jump so that aim assist will carry to the head. You take the best controller players ( tommy, Swagg, aydan) they will slap a lobby of kbm players. There are streamers ( Nick mercs) who have gone from kbm to controller “ because it’s easier”. Not to mention the number of pc players that use controller. Which is just about all the streamers. If kbm has the advantage why play on controller with a 3000$ pc setup.

[@Ghost_Cire]

Exactly

[@MrRaisin56]

PC player here. I don't really mind that consoles get aim assist and I really hope they carry on with crossplay how it is. Its great that games are starting to connect the PC and console communities and I think we should support games that try to do this even though it might not be perfect.

[@keatontruman3275]

Ethan honestly I played on both and I constantly get more kills on my pc hands down

[@CatalystBeast]

Aim assist is nothing compared to what we can do on keyboard and mouse. Slide a corner and check everything instantly and people think you're hacking.

[@jobmarsman1718]

I am on console, and correct me if this idea is crazy and not viable at all, but what would happen if the ADS speed of PC players would be increased by let’s say a frame or two. Would this be not fair anymore for PC players? Or would it not make a difference at all? or can something like this maybe straighten things out a bit more? Again don’t bash me or anything because it’s just an idea.

[@jaconova]

@@CatalystBeast yeah, no. aim assist is cheating and OP

[@lindonArelius]

@@jaconova nah your just mad that u get shit on by controller players and need an excuse to make yourself feel better

[@RNeeko]

As someone who has played on console for most of their childhood and only switched to PC 5 years ago (I'm 20) and was quite competent on the sticks and is now very competent with a mouse and keyboard I will say that at the higher ends of play a mouse and keyboard should always have the advantage. The problem is that getting good at tracking can be very difficult. The average PC player is not really very good. I believe that an average controller user is going to have an easier time staying on target than an average PC player. The skill floor is lower with a controller than that of a mouse and keyboard. The skill ceiling is infinitely higher than that of a controller, though. The limits of a mouse and keyboard can go as far as your reaction time and your muscle memory will take you. The limits of a controller lie in the controller itself, not necessarily the player. You can absolutely learn to have pinpoint accurate flicks and perfect tracking accuracy in ways that would not by physically possible with a controller. I feel like some of these streamers who have quite good aim are probably complaining about the ease of use of a controller compared to their much greater efforts required to beat it. The slowdown that helps controllers stay on target during strafing is necessary, but it can feel a bit cheesy to get beaten by a mechanically lesser skilled player simply because they aren't required to put in the same amounts of effort. I don't play much Warzone, but I can speak from experience with the multiplayer that it is very fun to literally run circles around controller players and out aim them in almost every scenario. These streamers are probably just overreacting.

[@link-so9wn]

pcs trash

[@fishy_on_me]

@@link-so9wn rumba chumba

[@sleeplesshollow4216]

Let me preface this by stating that I used controller all my life growing up until I was an adult and could afford a PC, so I spent a ton of time with both. The skill ceiling is indeed higher on mouse + keyboard, but this can be viewed as a liability. The time it would take to hover around the skill ceiling for controller is dwarfed by the time it would take to hover around the one for m+k, with that ceiling being pushed all the time. You can maximize yourself to the controller's limitations much easier, and we've seen several recent examples of pro console players being able to directly compete with pro PC players as aim assist, which is in practically every console shooter, serves to bridge the gap between controller limitations vs mouse while console players still have an easier and faster time "getting good".

[@bjwal6]

Well said

[@coolfool1293]

Sleepless Hollow Being a console player myself, the main issue I have with the aim assist compliant is that many pc gamers are pushing to remove it entirely. Doing so would basically make it impossible for controller players to fight pc players. Controller players are almost always at a disadvantage as it is, so having a function that gives us the advantage in a couple of scenarios is necessary to balance the game. In my opinion, each type of player should attempt to play to their strengths rather than getting themselves into situations where they are at a disadvantage. If the other player has forced them into that situation and they lose, the fact of the matter is that they got outplayed, not that the game is inherently unfair.

[@nicanor_nongbak]

I find it very hard to hit targets accurately while playing on my console with controller I find it easier with KB&M.

[@sabrinab2606]

Believe it depends on your Controller. The most streamer are using scuf Controller which are really good for warzone but I am using xbox elite series 2. I played many years in mouse and Keyboard and Switch to console and my aim is way better now except when it comes to sniping you cant make those drag Snipes but for smgs and ar aim Assist is doing well.

[@ZeeroDubs]

There are levels to it for sure. I used to be pretty good on controller but my cousin is on another level. I've never been able to hit flicks like that kid.

[@reaperactualgaming3075]

@@sabrinab2606 scuf controllers are technically cheating....

[@aidan7391]

@@reaperactualgaming3075 If they were technically cheating, they would be technically cheating. Nowhere does it say that, technically. So technically, you are wrong.

[@DeSch0ft]

@@aidan7391 So using Cronus is also not cheating?

[@theunderdog9353]

Ace: "Aim assist snapping doesn't exist" Aimbotters: "Hold my hacks"

[@skeDarguy]

Don't make me laugh. M&K is so much more precise and versatile. This is coming from a PC player too. The people whining about controllers are crybabies.

[@arrowdynamic7833]

So, i run over a street after looking left and right, i cant see anyone, so i go. Someone starts shooting me, im dead in 0.1 sec, def. everytime a controller player. You have no idea what happened to aim assist, actually 0 idea. This shit started with Fortnite, Controller got buffed and was/is still waaaay too OP. Now it looks like Activision got the same buff for Controller. You, me, every PC player is going to die, PC is going to die! Nah, okay... PC is not going to die, cause Controller player need something good right ? ;) BUT PC Players are going to die.

[@jaccokemkers5088]

Ramon Tuchan its because you’re shite

[@kingassassin2406]

Indeed they are just bad

[@websters8665]

@@arrowdynamic7833 but I get into a gunfight and the guy starts sliding and then jumps and lasers me mid air, with most controllers you have to take your thumb off aim to jump so jumping and aiming at the same time is something only the top 5% can do and even then there is still a delay, its call of duty everyone dies in 0.1 seconds but mouse and keyboard can jump around and slide while killing people in 0.1 seconss

[@yoU0Turn]

Agreed. One thing that really sucks is that flashbangs effect PC players a lot more. They reduced it by a bit but it is still unfair. However who uses a flash except from Gulag.

[@chrishornsey4460]

Ace, from one PC user's perspective I haven't noticed a great deal of difference this year and haven't sat back and thought I was melted because of aim assist. While it may be true that M&KB is easier to use and that should make the COD experience easier that is merely 1 advantage we've gained. For the last few years on console you can log in and play whatever mode you like. 2 months into a COD title on PC and only TDM lobbies are regularly usable. To that end, IMV moaning about aim assist is largely not something to worry about. For the first time in years, purely thanks to crossplay all game modes are available to the PC player base. Meaning that for the first time in years we can get full value for the game we've bought. Make no mistake, bringing the community together no matter the platform and then keeping it together by removing battle pass based player splits has been the best thing Activision has done in the whole franchise

[@BearScoutSNIPER]

Chris Hornsey I 100% agree, every single console you tuber that says “nah cross play should only be between the consoles and not PC” is like saying “ only Xbox and PlayStation get multiplayer and spec ops while PC will get to experience multiplayer for 2 months then they can go back to playing a different game because this game has no more players on their system, at least they got to play it though.” It’s actually sickening listening to this stuff all the time, Reddit is horrible for it, but I never had a bone to pick with any of the you tubers until they post videos like this saying yeah we want to exclude a group of players because we don’t like the advantages they have even though we clearly have an advantage of our own. Crossplay needs to stay if cod is to be successful on PC ever again. I have played cod since cod 2 and have switched to pc during the advanced warfare days, I’ve experienced both and yes aim assist can do crazy things that console players do not even realize. Most of the time I’d love to see some of these people, on both sides go try the other system for a day and really see how “amazingly over powered their input is.” It’s balanced, will I still complain about aim assist, yes I will, especially when the 725 exists in the game. I’ve never hated any of exclusiveAces content before and I will definitely continue to watch him as I find him more informative than say driftor, but man would I ever just like to have a discussion on this topic with him over discord to hear from a current PC player and a person who has played on both sides. No need to be the guy out there saying “Xbox and PlayStation are the only system to exist because they are the only fair players”, it’s kind of like saying, “only black people can play basketball because white people have white privilege and that means they will automatically win.” It’s just not true. End rant.

[@ahoKajt]

They should definitely not split PC into its own thing, but I think for solos at least the matchmaking should be more heavily biased towards putting people with the same input method into the same match.

[@goonerman6370]

@@BearScoutSNIPER There is no white privilege.

[@beastmastre]

Did you guys not notice that this video was specifically about Warzone, which is free on all platforms and that's why he mentioned that the player base should be large enough to keep KB&M separate from controllers? As it is, a lot of us on PS4 already disable crossplay in multiplayer, even though it already separates KB&Ms from controllers, just so we don't have to deal with all the other advantages you PC guys have and especially because of the hackers amongst you. If XBox allowed that, you guys would be almost as lonely as you were before in MP. It's not our fault that the PC market for COD is so small.

[@goonerman6370]

@@beastmastre Xbox does allow that in the settings.

[@Hellionx2]

I have always been a mouse player, but after getting really into warzone I have felt forced to switch to the controller on pc. The reason for this being is when you up your fov and leave aim assist on without scaling to fov you get an insane aim assist hitbox. Another reason this is so strong is also the meta of warzone being smg and an AR. Close range engagements without aim assist is way too hard to hit shots when there is sliding, jumping, drop shotting etc. Furthermore including those advanced movements into your gameplay such as jump shooting, sliding into dropshot, dropshot, are much better on controller especially when using paddles to jump.

[@reaperactualgaming3075]

Get better than. I have no problem getting slide kills jumping kills etc etc with a mouse.

[@strawberryfields9041]

Same

[@alvarorodriguez6280]

@@reaperactualgaming3075 literally every COD enthusiast when they feel threatened: gEt g0oD

[@ecorona9552]

I was just typing it out when you said it! LoL! I would have preferred cross CONSOLE play than having PC involved. Frankly, don't see why this can't be added as an option, as we can already disable cross play if we want. I reported so many people for "cheating", but then realize, "oh shit, maybe I just got owned by a PC player with a good PC, higher frame rate, less lag input, quicker button access (like you mentioned), better refresh rates, etc etc etc. Your voice has weight in the community. Hopefully you can use it further, as with this video, to get these changes implemented. I know we'd be grateful. Thanks for bringing the awareness to the imbalance here. Great video.

[@kfuj1815]

Switched to mouse and keyboard a few days ago. Been on console for 20+ years. Built a PC, bought a controller but I was forced to play m+k after forgetting to change my settings. Ended up giving it a shot and after a few days of practice, mowing someone down with a mouse is so satisfying.

[@carbonclaw7280]

I have found it to be easy to get used to and learn on pc. I recently linked my xbox to pc for cod mw and been playin pc. I like it much more..not to mention im a consistent 120+ fps

[@happytimes2097]

@@carbonclaw7280 do u have high graphics settings or did u lower them for more fps

[@shxosho]

Happy Times I have 1050ti, it runs cod on mid settings for a consistent 100+ frames. But I say he have low settings to get a consistent 120 tho. Good graphics eat cpu and GPU alive.

[@yougbd3rdincommand774]

Mate pc players can be wayy better than most consle players but after getting killled by them like 3 times they r like OT FUFNEIKING AIMBOT AUTO AIMZ just practice and you'd be able to beat most consles players besides me ill body you

[@tonylopez6362]

So happy I saw this comment because I just did the same today!!! I played about 4 hours on K&M and slowly got better and better each game. Idk if I wanna stay controller or do the switch!

[@lilv728]

Everybody is really just looking for something to blame for their death. They have no idea if there is an advantage or not

[@grimshat]

In a 1 on 1 at medium range the controller will when because the aim assist tracks for you. A mouse has to track the movement manually.

[@austinn2x802]

Misters Grimly did this nigga ace not just say aim assist doesn’t track for you... wtf.

[@gamemaster2210]

@@austinn2x802 it doesn't track for you but it holds your hand and helps stay on target versus a mouse is 100% your input. use your brain

[@austinn2x802]

Richard how about you use your brain, aim assist only slightly slows down your crosshair when ON the enemy, with a controller you only have 1 single inch to move your analog stick and keep it precise which is WAY more difficult then having an entire area for your mouse + a whole arm to keep your aim precise with. You can say with a mouse it’s 100% your own input but don’t ignore the fact that doing just that is so much easier than with the 1 inch you have on controller. not to mention the extra sensitivity setting kbm has😁

[@gamemaster2210]

@@austinn2x802 i literally just acknowledged that. You've clearly never played much pc fps games

[@jollybean6111]

I really dont care much i enjoy being able to play with my friends on console while im playing pc instead of being forced to play console

[@jaconova]

Yeah I realy don´t mind getting killed every nine seconds either.

[@yougbd3rdincommand774]

@@jaconova Then just fucking turn cross play off for fuck sake and stop annoying people

[@xGaLoSx]

After not holding a controller for a couple years, I broke my solos record on my third try with controller. That aim assist is ridiculous!

[@veryangrydodo2376]

Liar

[@gassedup]

fair but it could have something to do with shitty controller lobbies, most mnk users are on PC and big ultra sweats and ttvs while controlelr is mainly casual console players

[@gassedup]

@@darioapollo4027 thats a skill gap dumbass, and you know lobbies are input based right?

[@gassedup]

@@darioapollo4027 Look it up. if you have a team of both inputs it gets mixed but by default its only 1. Go in solos and see for yourself

[@gassedup]

@@darioapollo4027 what the fuck are you even talking about? Were talking about mnk vs controller and youre here talking about console vs pc and saying 80% of players are on PC! What?

[@TaxidermyRatOWL]

The streamers are just blaming something else and not the fact they messed up. KBM has easier precision and much free range of movement, it really depends on the game honestly though. PC has so many advantages over console players, higher frames, FOV etc. the man children need to stop

[@EMINEMISAWESOMEful]

yeah mnk is ez lul

[@alexwebb9124]

I shit on PC players for breakfast

[@goldzen3019]

@@alexwebb9124 hahahah in ur dreams

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

"sO mAnY adVanTagEzZ" those are bs. How those matter in a gunfight? "More filed of view" "more frame rates" yadayada, matters shit if in the moment you are getting into a gunfight the other player have sticky aim on you. Biased controller players defending their aim assist.

[@alexwebb9124]

@@goldzen3019 Gunfight 1v1 me

[@smackastan5697]

As a pc player who has picked up a controller a couple of times, I am unable to understand how someone could say a controller has an advantage.

[@Jmanfire2105]

Aim assist. And much more fine tuned movement.

[@trevorbye6965]

seriously lol. Either these people have literally never keyboarded, or just suck at it.

[@Jmanfire2105]

Trevor Bye seriously. I mean, the best way I can describe how huge of an advantage mouse and keyboard players have over console players is describing it as “a point and click adventure game”

[@junzi44]

@@Jmanfire2105 point and click adventure game, I'm dead 🤣

[@markpaterson2260]

> who has picked up a controller a couple of times because most controller players have picked up a controller more than a couple of times?

[@mrcraggle]

I wish players would just give me an easier time and understood that it’s not even me playing, it’s my little brother and he’s playing with a steering wheel.

[@K4113B4113]

I don't know, man. I played controller on my pc the whole day today after having a lifetime of mouse and keyboard for FPS games as my background just to try it out. All my friend always say "that's a control player" when they get melted unnaturally fast so I had to test it out and see for myself. I could pretty much just pick up the controller, changing no settings and perform at basically the same level (except for movement which is smoother on pc). I suspect that there is something more to the aim assist mechanic other than what XclusiveAce have found just simply due to how easy it was for me as a complete beginner at controller. Alot of the kills felt un-earned as if it wasn't even me doing it but the aim assist doing most of it. Also, compensating for recoil just feels way easier on controller.

[@nickwild7]

Adjust for recoil is all muscle memory based off your sensitivity you know exactly how far to pull down for each gun and then just adjust left or right to follow on target. As for un earned? I play both and I feel the standard aim assist actually fucks me more than not especially in close range because it will try to slowdown before I'm on target. Also it doesn't even work once they're past like 15meters. Is it because you're used to trying so much hard with your mouse?

[@ThePudgyPlatypi]

I just love that I can play this game with my friends on console (and vice versa) while using my preferred method of input. There will be growing pains, but multiplayer gaming in the future will be much better with all of us playing together :D

[@TheRacy]

play with your input you cheater

[@jediknight4316]

BS! PC players bunch of effing cheaters. Aimbots, aim hacks... Thats my first experience with cross play. Get these PC players out of matchmaking

[@adixon78]

I couldn't agree more -a console player

[@Habs1967]

@@jediknight4316 what about cronusmax?

[@LZONE4]

PC gamer(13years) formerly console player( for 19years) here. I think it's just an excuse that the top streamers/ pros are complaining about Aim assist in Warzone. I did testing myself w/ a controller on Warzone and yes Aim Assist is an advantage[ personally more than a "slight" advantage at least for the above average player) ( i land more shots consistently and if I make a mistake it felt as if i was able to recover from it when in the middle of a firefight , BUT i am sacrificing my movement, and snapping. I can still play decent games but my movement/ snapping is is doo-doo as compared to me in PC) The Skill gap between the pro console player and average console player is huge too. Aim assist won't make you a pro in in any FPS game, but in Warzone it will help you land more shots consistently and with Warzone's TTK being high it makes a huge difference. This is kind of the first FPS to bring in Cross play (Fornite was optional and was RNG, no controlling recoil , and if a console player played with PC, they will always get a PC lobby) This is the first FPS game to actually have queues with random lobbies filling with players Cross platforms. Of course Console players are going to need a stronger Aim Assist (Maybe in the future there will be balancing with future games) but as of now, they cannot balance cross platform play. PC will have so many variables that will make it almost impossible to balance. Ex- different keyboards, different mice w/ DPI settings. That is why Console players need a strong Aim assist to even compete in Cross play. Now place a Pro Console player against a pro PC player and during a firefight if the PC player chokes because of a high steaks, adrenaline pumping, nervousness, or anxiety and misses his aim just slightly by one PIXEL he's not gonna land any shots and has to readjust compared to a console gamer who has the little aim assist to help keep him on target. PC gamer will most likely loose a majority of fights. That's why only the PRO PC players/ PC streamers are complaining because they are in tournaments where they are getting obliterated by PRO CONSOLE Players. Aim assist wont do jack to a below average player or even an Average player. Its the PRO console players and above average players that really get the benefit of Aim assists. The one thing these top streamers/ pros need to complain about is the Warzone servers/ hackers. They need to fix it ASAP their servers are terrible, tik refresh rate is bad. Their anti-cheat system is literally the worst for a AAA title company that as the funds to obtain a better anti-cheat system. They have openly hackers who are not getting banned. They need to fix this ASAP.

[@GhostBishop]

I 100% agree. These guys just need something to bitch about as it makes for content.

[@timaloy1532]

well said great post

[@ajharmiah2692]

GhostBishop not for content more of just an excuse

[@youtubesucks1111]

Spitting on haters like a jet ski crack they head like a Pepsi the best be mofos out here got epilepsy.

[@gregg2k]

@TheXclusiveAce, big fan just wanna give my opinion on the subject because I feel like for the first time I didn't agree with some things you said. This is not an attack on you or your opinions, but rather giving my input as a PC player, but I also played Counterstrike internationally at a high level on offline events. No flex, just trying to say im not a casual guy that doesn't know what he talks about. I also wanna start by saying I dont dislike the aim assist console players get. I have very good aim so I don't even care. Its about the other things you said. Yes we have a keyboard and we have way more buttons. Doesn't mean we actually use more buttons.. We use almost the same amount of inputs. Only difference that I can think of is to activate a field upgrade. PC players press 1 button to activate and console players press both L1 and R1 or something like that? FOV Slider. Yes PC players have the FOV slider. Now when I played competitive CS, there wasnt a FOV slider but you could use a 4:3, 16:9 or 16:10 resolution. 16:9 having a wider FOV than 4:3. Yet 99.9% of the pro's play on a low 4:3 resolution. High FOV is not always an advantage. (imo its actually shit) For a casual player it may seem like, Wider FOV = more you see. While in reality the wider FOV makes you see a lot LESS detail. I can barely see anything in the distance fi I play warzone on FOV 120. Yeah sure it's wide, but a guy moving in the distance is WAY harder to spot, because the wide FOV kinda works as a fisheye effect so the center of your screen is zoomed out more. A lower FOV is actually more zoomed in and I prefer this so I can see a lot more details and see my enemies faster. I might lose some vision on the sides because it's not as wide, but I rather look around more myself and have good clear vision of what I can see. A wider FOV also means a smaller/thinner enemy, means harder to track and hit. So a lower FOV makes the enemy models bigger/fatter and easier to track and hit. This is also one of the big reasons every pro CS player plays on a shitty 4:3 resolution. You said that higher frames were an advantage too. Why? Sure between PC gamers its a huge difference because playing a fast shooter with a mouse on 60 frames feels super weird and slow. Yet it works fine for a controller because the movement is less "flicky" as with a mouse. So a PC player with 160 fps vs a PC player with 60 fps, the one with higher frames has the advantage. But the advantage is that big vs console on 60 fps. There is no real advantage when plugging in a controller into the PC so you have higher frames. The tickrate of the servers dont allow someone with more frames to see more or whatever you may think and if it does, we're talking about such a minor difference... Lines Tech and Shroud actually have a video or 2 testing refreshrates and testing if its such an advantage, check it out. -------- In my opinion a PC player has 2 advantages over console. 1 Graphics. If you're pc can run the game smoothly, it has way better graphics than even the PS4 pro. Console version often looks washed while PC version looks crisp even looking far into the map. So it could be easier to spot an enemy in warzone if he is rly far, but actually it would be so far its not even worth trying to snipe. But yeah, you might spot him faster and easier. So then again, this advantage is not OP at all. 2. Mouse is more precise at a longer range (where aim assist probably doesnt work anymore) So IMO its pretty fair, PC vs Console. I just kinda disliked how much you used the word laughable. Saying PC players have a ton of advantages so we basically can't complain about anything. Once again, I dont complain about aim assist. But you were saying or insinuating that PC players have all these advantages, while in reality they aren't real advantages depending on how you look at them. Peace!

[@makhosimayisa5800]

some waffling here😏

[@gregg2k]

@@makhosimayisa5800 ikr, this takes the price of being my largest comment ever on youtube

[@gregg2k]

@D4ftG4m3r 34 Just tired to see the same comments every time saying PC has so many advantages. It honestly feels like console or controller players NEED to say this to make them feel better.

[@murielgalban7700]

@@gregg2k Xbox here bro but I play with some friends and some of them have pc, so I have played this game on PC and oh boi it's very very different, to begin with the ARs are a hell of a thing to control on pc, I had to tune down the mouse speed because of that, but then you have that single shot weapons such as snipers or rifles like the mk2 are actually very good options with k/m, even the oden feels better playing on PC, about graphics I won't say anything as you have already said pretty much all of it, as I see it consoles and and PC have their respective advantages and it all depends on how the players use them, I go as far to say that console players have the edge in close fights since movement feels better with a controller and the aim assist makes you melt people with ARs (but we'll same thing you can get if you plug a controller on your PC) now PC players have the edge at long range fights since since sniping becomes faster when using a mouse, mid range can be debatible as It all depends (skill aside) on your load out and position.

[@klkgamingcoach1610]

Lol shitt i literally wrote this exact reasons why pc is not all that op in another aim assist vs mkb vid lol glad to see somebody smart enough to go into the fine details of it great job

[@dachangoo594]

The funny thing is, us controller players complain when we play against pc players

[@akatsuki_silva]

Streamers just like to have an excuse , they think they are superior than console players but they really aren't. PC has so many advantages over console like you mentioned.

[@roooots7829]

Fry Szopen no wtf

[@Asianmike8402]

I run an almost 2.8 k/d on my computer account. A 1.5 k/d on my console. I’d consider myself an above avg FPS player and computer play is so much easier. Keyboard/mouse my reaction time and FR/s makes it just overall a better experience.

[@akatsuki_silva]

@Fry Szopen maybe you should realize you're not as good as you think.

[@MuffinCapBackBlue]

@Fry Szopen It's not though dude, if it weren't for aim assist PC players would absolutely dominate a controller player 100% of the time

[@alexattrill3335]

@Fry Szopen you've obviously not played on a controller

[@TheRealMrGreen]

I play on both on PC and PS4 and you're very wrong on one thing: An average console player will do MUCH better than an average PC player. In CoD that is, because the whole game is designed with controller in mind. The skill ceiling is much higher on PC of course but that's irrelevant for 99% of the CoD player base.

[@AbsoluteSuperiority]

Agreed. If you play on both this isnt even an argument. Seen people run out of ammo trying to kill me countless times on PC. On console no matter how bad you are if you zigzag the stick you'll get kills. Might still die a lot but eventually it'll pull just right and slow down enough to land two to the head and with this fast TTK .1 seconds of slowdown by a head is all you need. Im above average on PC but if I run into a top KZbinr or had in the past and realize they simply have better gun game I accept Ima get fucked up and very few kills. On console I feel like I always have a shot between three flinch and maybe a teammate running by and pulling their aim off me etc. Can tell he made this video without really ever playing on PC much :(

[@redal35]

Same here, I own both a PC and a PS4 Pro, and I find myself lasering people a lot more on PS4 with a controller than I would otherwise on PC with a mouse.

[@UsmanSaleemSulehri]

This! Thanks for pointing it out. Game is primarily controller based thus leading to such weird buttons and stuff. Also two players one on pc and one on console will always yield controller's an upper hand.

[@silvereagle404]

yes... this, right here.. the average console player is just better then a pc player. whenever i switch off my crossplay (i am on console btw)... bro does it get sweaty. omg. whenever i forgot to switch it off im having a much easier time. it's so weird. but i don't like crossplay because the pc gamers are most likely the ones to cheat (aka use hacks)

[@UsmanSaleemSulehri]

@@silvereagle404 yeah hacking is primarily a PC problem. This I can totally agree with.

[@user-fy5ey4gf4h]

My wrist lowkey be hurting trying to run up stairs with my mouse

[@user-fy5ey4gf4h]

Insanity 1 why...why would you say that?😭 nah just kidding stfu idiot

[@whitegoodman7465]

weak af

[@elderscrollsmoddingtech7252]

Use your arm more or up your sensitivity, seriously you could cause long term damage to your wrist with stuff like that

[@illastration1]

I love crossplay because it allows my brother and myself (PC) to play with my other brother (PS4) and brother in law (XBOX) in quads in Warzone all for free. It's been great over the covid lockdown. IW have done a great job, consoles can have their aim assist all day!

[@user-ws3uq9ji8m]

Aim assist is for losers

[@Leazy]

I think you forgot one thing: turnspeed PC has no turnspeed limits. If they flick their mouse fast enough they can do a 180 in just a few frames. Now compare that to a controller user with a 5-5 sensitivity.... Even if you use 20-20 you're nowhere near as fast as a PC player could

[@steffenb4076]

So true. I play on 5-5 in order to maintain accurate mid and long range aim. Because of that it takes an eternity to turn around compared to mnk players. When the console and pc were separated they always made fun of us underlining their superiority. Now they complain. Pathetic.

[@alexqwert1]

He literally says exactly that @4:47. Does anyone watch the full video?

[@Kliffoth318]

if your mouse sensitivity is so high that you can turn in a few frames then your aim probably isn't good. you need a low sensitivity for kb/m. I have to sweep my mouse across most my pad to turn around, and pro pc gamers use a much lower sens than I do

[@Leazy]

@@Kliffoth318 Yes this was just an extreme example. You can still turn really fast if you swipe your mouse fast

[@steffenb4076]

@@Kliffoth318 It probably was some kind of an exaggeration on his part but the point is that it takes way longer to turn on controller than on mnk. Compare how long it takes controller pros like Scump to perform a 180 and how long it takes a mnk pro like Shroud.

[@TheRealBhuado]

i play on pc with a controller. i have been playing on playstation and xbox for years. but pc is plain better. more fps. wider field of view etc. regardless your input methods, a good player is a good player. there are e sports with people with controllers. so yeah it doesnt really matter, just enjoy the game and play as well as you can

[@daniellarodriguez2756]

CoD is actually that exact thing

[@DarKNG]

As an ex-controller player (from cod3 to bo3) and playing 5 years with mouse and keyboard i tried controller on cold war and i gotta say aim assist is so strong it makes it so easy. So my opinion is: an average controler player will always beat an average mnk player, but when we talk about the best of the best than the mnk gets an advantage.

[@mr.charizard9232]

Exactly!!!!

[@syg1886]

Why MnK gest advantage ? Look at the best players in cod Most of them play controler for a reason And the best controler players beat best MnK players its fact Man

[@DarKNG]

@@syg1886 most of the top players you know play controller because thats what cdl allows

[@syg1886]

@@DarKNG Ok Man take huskers for example, he play MnK for like 8 years and (No ofence for him) best controler players beat him Aydan played fortnite on keyboard sometimes i think and he switch to controler on cod because he known that controler is better for cod. Another example last cod vg tournament when good keyboarders and good controler players played Players like symfuhny and strahfe get smoked by controler pros Controler > keyboard in COD trust me

[@DarKNG]

@@syg1886 huskers is really not that good, the fact is cod is a new game on mnk, not many people used to play it because it was always a console heavy game, but look for players like ninext, garcia, hell even shroud when he tried warzone, top tier aim on mnk, husk is just good at br and positioning, nothing impressive about his aim

[@x8XdrjayX8x]

I frequently get killed while a controller player seems to snap on target. It just looks unnatural to me any explanation?

[@Phillipmamowfwifharts]

yea same here. Sad part is I was a controller player for 20 years until i switched in march. The ones who deny aim snapping are morons. It is not as strong as previous titles, but they still have mods that let people snap and lock on that you can buy at walmart. Literally you can buy a modpack that gives you aim abuse, drop shots, auto fire for semi auto guns, etc. Bought one to try out, i cannot hit anything on controller anymore, so i started tinkering. After enough changes in my settings i could hit everything practically. Almost no recoil as well.

[@Matt-td8pz]

I agreed with everything in this video up to the point where he started talking about separate lobbies for controller and mouse and keyboard, like he said at its current state controller has a slight advantage at some points and visa versa. So your chances of winning a fight will usually depend on your actual skill level rather then what input you use. Having separate lobbies will mostly just increase queue times over anything else, and defeats the purpose of having crossplay in the first place.

[@LoneWolf-tk9em]

I disagree. If 2 person with same skill level play against each other in a gunfight, the controller guy has higher chance of winning, which is unfair..

[@MrJayza89]

No Go but so does the controller at certain times. Besides why split the player base it's easier to hop into games this way. Another thing to consider that he clearly didn't in the video was crossplay between friends. Do they get put only into lobbies that are mixed or only into pc lobbies. Either way it would split the playerbase even further.

[@rennat99]

Mouse 100% has the advantage in a gunfight, that’s not even mentioning the difference in higher quality PC’s frame rates and lag. Also any good console player doesn’t use auto aim. Disabling cross play won’t create higher queue times as it hasn’t for any other battle royal game.

[@Matt-td8pz]

Extractly splitting lobbies would just increase queue times and defeats the purpose of cross play, there is many other factors to why you would lose or win a fight other than just what input you use and alot of the time it would be other factors just as position, situation, reaction times, weapons, range etc and even just pure skill

[@Matt-td8pz]

People are also just using this as an excuse for why they die rather then realising it's most likely their own fault, which is the only way you will ever improve.

[@ernestod4282]

as a pc player whenever i watch console players like most youtubers they have (almost) perfect spray control, as in they barely ever miss while spraying thanks to aim assist while on pc i see a lot more people having hard time sticking the crosshair on the enemy 100% of the time through the spraydown. thats where i think controller players have advantage is in spraydowns on a moving player in cqc

[@jameshenry4068]

ERNESTO D you are comparing youtubers who spend thousand of hours playing and usually use aim training programs to average pc players if you compare the average of any community to the top tier of other communities of coarse it’s going to look unfair your comparison is unfair

[@GrabbaBeer]

ERNESTO D as a console player and both pc player, I can tell you that aim assist does not always work. It is effected by latency and netcode issues. Which gives us a disadvantage a lot of times. When it’s actually working correctly I can agree.

[@Chasearabbi]

Pc has a major advantage at long range tho. I’m so much better at sniping on pc than console.

[@TWIGGBIGG]

Agreed, I'm global in csgo so my aim is pretty decent but as soon as I see a console gameplay in cod it's like watching a god, and the enemies looks like bots, while I play I meet fucking shroud and he's whole family and my aim isnt nearly as good

[@GrabbaBeer]

TWIGGBIGG your aim was effected by shroud? Like you could feel the aim assist work against you or your bullets stop registering?

[@thehunter-wy8pg]

You are not really taking into account that most fights in warzone for average players occur at very close range and a average mouse and keyboard player will lose almost always to a average controller player with aim assist. Despite the framerate and other advantages a pc player may have because none of those things matter at close range. Now when you take into account above average players with mouse and keyboard and controller players obviously the one with aim assist has an advantage. There is a reason after all that almost all of the major players use a controller. So i feel your entire argument is just invalid and sounds like an argument from a fanboy.

[@Master_Bruce_Wayne]

Man I love this guy, keep up the great work bro, I’ve learnt so much as a new COD player

[@lbm6686]

Also when in the buying station or loot drops, pc players can buy there stuff quickly while console players have to move on to it, even if it’s just a little bit more time, that’s still enough for a sniper to aim at your head

[@redal35]

Not true, you can quickly memorize a sequence of inputs on console or PC (down > x > up > x), which would be faster than having to click on the prompts with a mouse.

[@lbm6686]

Sunny if you have to buy like a UAV it’ll take more time to keep clicking down or up than it would for a pc player

[@chvIry]

@@redal35 yeah it's like rage quiting in cod : Start > Up > X > Up > X So fast its almost instantaneous. Sometimes you gotta back out before they get the kill.

[@redal35]

@@lbm6686 Okay that's where kb+m players might have a slight advantage. But honestly that's a fault in the UI design of the buy station menu, they should change it to the buy menu style of csgo, similar to the spray menu in mw right now

[@lbm6686]

Sunny yeah it’s not a big advantage, but an extra second could cost you the game, not that big of a deal tho, just addressing it

[@iToddi]

I don't agree with the PC players can map their keys being a big advantage. In reality there are not many keys that you can quickly press, given the speed of the game. WSAD are reserved.. You can quickly hit Q and slightly less fast hit E. Aside from that, the rest of the keys become harder to hit in a fast motion. R is possible but can sometimes be miss pressed.

[@itsEzvn]

I’m a seasoned Console player. I’ve played call of duty since cod 4, and I’m switching to PC for a year just to have a feel on the differences and to develop a real opinion on this for myself, I cannot get a unbiased answer to which one is better literally anywhere.

[@oxmor]

Generally speaking in the FPS community, mouse and keyboard is the most precise mode of communicating twitch movement and reflexes in game. The laser sensor technology, the modularity/customization between different product and different inputs on keyboard and mouse truly add a level of control you just don't get with a console controller. Wether one or the other is better is ultimately personal opinion, preference, everything subjective. What isn't subjective is 3000$ in hardware meant to give you performance, accuracy, and agency. This also adds to the division in PC gaming, there are potatoes and there are PC gods, not every ship floats the same. At this point these aspects are challenge points for console technology, not the other way around. Hopefully newer generations bridge that gap.

[@DavMarmor]

My main issue about aim assist is the tracking. From what I understand aim assist slow down your reticle. Why not just keep this? There are already options on PC to do this depending on the ads or reticles you use. But the tracking is nonsense. It's a shooting game. Having a software do the job for you kinda kill the purpose. It's like competing in a cycle racing with an electric bike because other competitors have better bike than yours.

[@spookyseafood7682]

Well yea a of player might have a advantage frames wise but aiming takes skill and I hate when people say I’m only good because I play pc

[@issaccontreras2580]

I am a PC and Console player... I got to agree o the aiming just a little bit.. it took me quite some time to get used to not having Aim Assist, yet like on the video i felt it easier from long ranges. Movement on PC on the other hand is quite very hard to master. It gets me annoyed since I cant slide cancel as easy as on PS4 controller getting those Camara advantage. Eitherway, I got to say its quite balance in their ways. Have to play differently in each system. Ps4 agressive and let the aim assist and the tech I learned help me out. PC more passive since limited movement and better aiming at longer ranges.

[@fin.3068]

I’m just because we play on pc doesn’t make us instantly good at a game it takes a lot more skill than console to actually be able to hit shots consistently

[@ono446]

@@fin.3068 more skill but also a much higher skill cap, the best controller player in the world wouldn't be close to the best keyboard player

[@sabrinab2606]

@@ono446 Warzone doesnt work like your logic. If the Controller Player see the best PC Player earlier and Start chasing him with a MP5 he will be fried my friend but on other Hand if the best pc Player see the console Player miles away with the HDR he is gone too. It depends on the Situation. A lot of streamer and pro Player and Team mates of pro Player are using scuff Controller and I am using an elite series 2 on xbox before I used the normal wireless xbox Controller its like worlds different.

[@ono446]

@@sabrinab2606 I'm more meaning that in terms of raw aim controller can't stand to pc, obviously game awareness and knowledge can shift an interaction completely but I'm meaning more if two equal players (in terms of logic) were to go against each other the mnk player would have a huge advantage. Some things just aren't possible on controller imo

[@KoolAidGuy541]

I notice that often times aim assist will work against me. Sometimes on ground war I like to play sniper and take pokes from across the map with my k98. Often times what will happen is I'll be lining up my long range headshot, and a second enemy will run past the first and aim assist will get "distracted" and I'll shoot right in between both enemies.

[@MegaDAli95]

PC player who uses a controller over here, so I get aim assist and an FOV slider. I'll be the 1st to tell you that in most situations, aim assist will be a far greater advantage than the FOV slider. I say this because increased FOV comes with greater drawbacks than any of the 3 aim assist options in MW2019. I can't speak for M&K, but overall the PC is at a significant advantage because of potentially more fps even at a higher resolution and little things like being able to prepare and adjust for lag because the latency and packet loss numbers can been seen at any given time

[@TheSilentMustRise-xv3hx]

You can see ping and packet loss on systems too...

[@MrDerp83]

I play on PC and would like to know how you "prepare and adjust for lag". Just because i can see the numbers does not tell me where to aim. It just tells me I should find a new lobby.

[@anthonybarragan3473]

so basically you suck at the game and it’s all lag?

[@MegaDAli95]

Brandon Bosley You can adjust how you play because you know the lobby is laggy. A console player wouldn’t know if they were playing at 100ms ping

[@Infinityskatemedia]

oldmansouthside but console does tell you the ping,

[@steggy9651]

Pc player here: I definitely think that Mouse and Keyboard is by far the easier input to play on. I totally agree that there may be a few advantages in very specific situations that controllers have.. but nothing compared to having a mouse and keyboard.. especially if you are playing at close to 200FPS. I just appreciate being able to play with friends on other consoles, so I don’t want to see the crossplay change!

[@jaconova]

yeah... no. aim assist is akin to aimbot

[@lindonArelius]

@@jaconova did u not watch the vid

[@darkyeetusdeletus9819]

Me who uses pc with controller: You dare oppose me mortal? Just kidding I’m not that good

[@TristynRusselo]

Aim assist works much different on console than PC

[@julen5793]

Tristyn Russelo not with controllers

[@Outlawchief-cq4xy]

@@TristynRusselo you commented the exact same thing on the other comments also there is no aim assist on pc

[@tiamathaze7565]

@@Outlawchief-cq4xy if you plug in a controller you'll get the same aim Assist like in consoles i know that, is switched from ps4 to pc with controller.

[@fourtruths3324]

It’s funny because someone like shroud complains about aim assist but literally has 20 videos of him “DESTROY SOLOS” and going on about how solos is “too easy”

[@cookiemunster27]

I mean it would be frustrating if you're a great pc player and still getting lazered at close range by a a decent player with aim assist.

[@kerch00]

The Only One Awoken kinda funny how you think that when shroud is an ex csgo pro...

[@Geneaux]

Ignore him: it's fuckin' Shroud dude. He doesn't "represent" PC players and XclusiveAce doesn't represent console players. They're just people in the end, and in terms of pedigree, Shroud is literally the worst example you could've chose if differing opinions is your angle. Shroud is doing it for clicks, not discussion.

[@lhitman2222]

Shroud rarely complains

[@xiqua6417]

Shroud complains about aim assist in a competitive mindset, not a casual... when you play in 100k tournaments and all the maps are close range maps that you play on (because its a 2v2 tournament or something of the sort) then controller players are just going to destroy you on pc when your talking about pro vs pro. Not Shroud vs the less than average warzone player..

[@KeaneKamina]

*Aim Assist Exist in every shooter* "This is fine." *Aim Assist Exist in other Cross plays* "Why are you using a controller stupid?" *Aim Assist Exist in Cross Play in a widely popular topical shooter with many new players and streamers expecting to steam roll instantly on stream* "Aim Assist is the VERY definition of CHEATING."

[@hoodoojim8698]

Preach

[@mutilator98]

Aim assist is a legal cheat

[@StudioNetcom]

All PC players are either hackers or noobs who needs an edge over console players. If you want to play mnk, just buy a damn console and plug-in your mnk like any other decent players. Hiding behind unfair advantages while whinning about the very fews disadvantages you get is pathetic at best and is clearly the mindset of a hackers who loses while hacking...

[@deltarion38]

@@StudioNetcom or maybe you should switch from your subpar console to pc. Calling every pc player a cheater somehow tells me you are an bellow average player

[@StudioNetcom]

@@deltarion38 Oh, I am... Too bad the fact I'm bad doesn't remove cheatig and hacking on PC.... Now the real question, are YOU good? Clearly not, since your on PC. Real good player don't need an edge over other people to win... Which I doubt is your case. And if you think you're acually good, let meet in between, both use a controller without aim assit with 60 dps and let's see who's best. You might get supprised by how bad you get when you don't have those unfair advantages on your side...

[@uub8128]

Controller has better movement and aim, I know that because I'm a hybrid player. We run out of mouse pad space and controller players can keep on spinning forever . We have a lot of keys to choose from so that way you can find the perfect key binds faster. Also, just cause we have our entire arm to aim from doesn't mean that we will hit every shot

[@BDGR_RGDB]

Former console (Xbox) player for 10 years, I used to turn aim-assist off (because the tracking caused me to pull off targets) and used medium-low to medium sensitivity and trained myself to creep on the stick for precision. I went to PC a year ago and just cannot use a controller anymore because of the precision I have with a mouse. Just my input from my experience, you may have different experiences.

[@talkingtoaschizophrenic1171]

As someone who plays on both console and PC for CoD, you are vastly underselling how strong the aim assist is(at least in the last few CoD games). Simply compare the strength of magnitude of aim assist in Apex Legends to CoD and you will immediately notice a striking difference. Obviously mouse had advantage at range, but so many of those fights revolve around who sees who first. To contrast that, the time where controller has advantage is generally inside buildings. What do most people die to the most in Warzone? Someone in a building when you walk in. It's extremely frustrating knowing that you have to kick the door in and try to kill some guy who totally has a massive leg up on you with aiming in a situation that they entirely control the engagement range. Also come on...saying that it's an even playing field because a PC player has more keybindings? One of them helps you click a few buttons quicker while the other literally helps you get almost every bullet directly into the enemy player. Even in your rotation test you say "it doesn't do everything it just sort of helps you stay on target". Look at the amount of time you are on that person while not touching your right stick. You could have killed him twice over with bullets without even adjusting your aim. One of them is clearly more important than the other. Again, I'm not saying that controller is some sort of OP mega laser machine, because at range a mouse player SHOULD win nearly every time, but jesus it is frustrating being obliterated nearly every single time if you have to go into a building against a controller user.

[@Alickaard1990]

Each have pros and cons. Personally I feel that mk has a higher skill ceiling. But there are a lot of really good controller players. It’s preference really i feel

[@claymathews8814]

Josh Lambert true. A good controller player can hold their own with PC, but i think a high level MnK beats a high level controller 8/10 times.

[@sorryidgaf.6043]

Clay Mathews if you say so.

[@andrewowen4767]

Josh Lambert give a controller to 7 years old kid and see how he do wonders. Give a mouse to him, you will see that he can't do as good as controller

[@Ewerboweski]

@@claymathews8814 yeah there is definitely a reason why almost every single pro league for gaming is done on MK instead of controller. Rainbow six siege had xbox pro league but was a joke co.pared to MK on pc. So for sure a higher skill ceiling.

[@Biyonzo]

Thats because there are more console players in general

[@FlattHouseMedia]

Agreed, Kb&M players should be separated from controller players, would eliminate so many issues.

[@infernofalloutpoizen]

Im playing with kbm on ps4. Getting the worst of both worlds 😂

[@EasilySteezily]

Lol I used to do this with fortnite on Xbox so my building was easier

[@bjwal6]

This should be obvious, but: Mouse and keyboard has a huge inherent advantage in FPS that needs to be compensated for in cross play. This video breaks it down really well, but I think you’re pretty kind ace - M&K has the clear advantage even with the assists, especially given the importance of headshots in warzone.

[@m0nztam0nk]

bjwal6 controller mains tend to overestimate m&k ACTUAL moment to moment precision VERY much. I use both in COD on PC and controller nets me more kills, even tho im MUCH more skilled and trained with m&k. The aim assist in COD is through the roof.

[@whippercream8998]

@@m0nztam0nk I've played with both and they both have their advantages. Snipers are prime in warzone right now. And mouse and kb with absolutely demolish controller sniping. But at the point blank range, controller hipfire aim assist is great. I flip each match because it's fun to do. And honestly, you can go either way, you aren't going to get good or better because of it.

[@lindigj]

I agree with both of you... controller definitely nets me more kills even though I’m generally trash w/ controller in most games and have 20+ years of kbm experience in fps. But there’s no question kbm is way better for sniping... if you enjoy that kind of thing. Personally I’d rather chew rocks, so I’ve leaned towards the controller quite often.

[@BillyLndn]

That's IF the game doesn't give auto headshot snap and track to the peasants, and if the netcode is even the same. Cause it feels that some times something is wrong with the netcode

[@bjwal6]

Billy Makarou but we know it doesn’t...

[@octanegr5245]

Let's do the math. PC first; A mouse, with which you use your entire arm to aim, and allows you to have a dynamic sensitivity. A keyboard, where you can bind anything in the most comfortable, intuitive manner. Uncapped framerate, often double than that of console. And a way wider FOV, which is literally like having extra eyes on the side of your head. Now console; Preset button layouts, limited framerate and FOV, aiming with a little stick using a finger (lol), plus slight aim slowdown. So, I'll give you my hot take and say PC is better.

[@IAMTHEStarGazer]

Greatly said 😚👌

[@Johnny641]

You are only using a very small percentage of the Keyboard and most people use very similar bindings, I won't argue all the pro-cons but key mapping as an advantage is laughable.

[@octanegr5245]

@@Johnny641 It's not a big advantage, but it's still there. F.e we have to toggle nades with the arrows, which is slow AF. And the most important thing is where you want to put each command, so that it feels comfortable. Controllers just have limited preset layouts.

[@Lucid9host]

This video was recommended after a similar video. And jackfrags did a great job of “testing “ the matchmaking. The input does play a major role in matchmaking and if you try to change input mid game you are backed out, so it was obviously thought of beforehand. Like jack says in his video, I also think IW tried to protect the console player base by making them match each other more often. Great info on your side as well.

[@dakotastump5846]

I recently bought a PC, and I can say that my aim improved DRAMATICALLY compared to my aim on console.

[@CrypticCrisp]

Only because you're trash at Console. If you had a 10/10 Pad user and a 10/10 MnK user sat together playing you would see the aim assist rise the console user into complete domination.

[@zachocampo8577]

"hey guys look at my new baby" "you're TRASH at having sex"

[@CrypticCrisp]

@@zachocampo8577 I was in a mood, but yeah. That reply made me laugh harder than i have in legit 5 years. Well done :)

[@dakotastump5846]

@@CrypticCrispmeh, I don't agree entirely. Both have their advantages. I played console my entire life, and my aim isn't trash. Aim assist can be a little whack at times and let's you hit shots you shouldn't have, but I'd still say MnK let's me hit shots I could never have on console. I find it a lot easier to track on to targets.

[@CrypticCrisp]

@@dakotastump5846 Sorry if i came across shady i really didnt intend to. It's just from my perspective yeah, on mnk i can bang most console users at 400m + but genuinely i'm getting wrecked by bullets bending round corners vs aim assist. Shot 10 inches left of my head and still a headshot type shite. It can't be argued the aim assist is balls because even the top echelon of players are complaining about its pure annoyance. I think as a whole the crossplay experiment is a failure. Stick consoles with consoles and PC with PC then theres no aids to be spoken about

[@skrapfall]

9:13 Even if you have a million keys you're still forced to use the same key/ button for jumping and mantling, and for interacting (door opening, weapon pickup ++), so you don't have full customizability. Keyboard is still better in terms of input, but you will still die if your character picks up a weapon when you wanted to open a door, or when your character climbs _over_ a box instead of jump shooting/ jumping on top of the box.

[@TehMiTeee]

But that is same with the controller

[@KolyatKrios]

i really hate that games on PC still do this. mass effect 3 has one of the worst cases of "use one key to do everything", but warzone definitely has the issue too. i've died a few times from trying to close a door but instead picking up a gun or starting a revive on someone

[@tipGasm]

Skrapfall exactly true

[@paulfresh]

KolyatKrios have tried different binds? Cause I have the same problem I swear. Even with load out drops where you hold f but you end up picking your weapon back up that you just dropped lol it’s annoying

[@CmoIsDaNam3i]

That's less of an issue of keyboard & mouse and more of an issue of IW not doing as good of a job as they should of man, its not really a controller players fault that IW didn't do something as good as they should of, and that is something legitimate. But its not a controller players fault on that front tbh. It just means that they need to fix the issue. Esp since controller players don't even have that many options anyway!

[@lilleBoyy]

Im getting killed by pc players 80% of the time. They are way better in mid and far range when it comes to weaponcontrol.

[@erickellar5867]

Yeah but in the gulag we get lasered by controller players I've tried both and pistols and close range is way easier on controler

[@sixonesix9429]

@Fragz Nope. That's just you being bad with mouse and keyboard. Stop making excuses for yourself.

[@erickellar5867]

@@sixonesix9429 I've been in the top 100 on rainbow six with mouse and have a 1.4kd with mouse on cod and top 10 on pubg back when it first came out I'm way above average on mnk

[@a.garcha199]

@@erickellar5867 top 100 in R6? Sure you have, what's your name

[@guguigugu]

@@erickellar5867 im on PC and win gulag consistently. git gud bro.

[@StormEagle5]

10:00 Truck guy: ight, Imma head out Ace: ... Understandable, have a nice day

[@gregwood4616]

My son and I both play on our ps4's, I use controller, he uses a customized keyboard with various switch types for different buttons, and a Logitech g502 Proteus spectrum mouse. Ignore the fact that he's just way better than me, but I watch him be able to turn way quicker when needed, as well as have that fine movement when needed. I would say he has an advantage over me all day. But that's just his preference. It fits his play style. He's a lot more aggressive than me, while I play more slow and tactical.

[@issaccontreras2580]

It should be the opposite way xD

[@harryelphick7256]

Mate zoomers are on some shit. I honestly feel like most people are most cracked reaction wise when they are like 16

[@SirSoloSoul]

@@harryelphick7256 for real. As a kid I topped leader boards in black ops 2 and MW but now I'm pretty much average xD age deffinitely effects your skill.

[@victora203]

lol wtf. I've always been playing on pc and i find, that i have a very big advantage over controllers.

[@EditsBYfenomeno]

Viggowitz i shit pc kids on multiplayer

[@smhsophie]

Streamers always have an outsized voice on these things, so whatever they say becomes fact

[@TheWhills]

Good players are good players. Doesn’t matter what peripherals. For instance..both M&K and Controller on PC’s are exactly the same, both M&K and Controller on Consoles are exactly the same. It’s when you get to the performance advantages of PC that makes the difference to me.

[@mardy3732]

@@EditsBYfenomeno CoD is designed with controllers in mind, and the skill ceiling is so low that there isn't much you can do to make a substantional difference. Yes, mice give you far more speed and precision. But you don't really need any of that in CoD.

[@benp9793]

@@EditsBYfenomeno Yea, bad pc players. Any competent pc player will beat a console player of equal skill every time. You are a teenager in denial.

[@Cameron-ki1qx]

The main disadvantage I see to being on PC are that stuns literally stop you in your tracks for the whole duration. They "fixed" it recently, but they're still stupid good. When I stun console players, they can do a full 90° turn on me and still win the gunfight.

[@redal35]

Agree 100%, why do console players only suffer from shakey iron sights while PC players lose all fine tuning motor skills? Imo stuns should not decrease the sensitivity of kb+m mouse players, and instead, shake their screen while adding in a random value of exaggerated mouse acceleration for the duration of the stun.

[@StillConfusing]

even with the fix my 180 distance is 8 inches normally, but when stunned it goes up to about 45 inches. which is broken af

[@claymathews8814]

Cameron idk, i play on xbox and i get frozen by stuns also. I think the issue is just inconsistency with stun grenades.

[@AbsoluteSuperiority]

For some reason my sensitivity since the fix is dumb high when stunned. There seems to be a slight visual delay but I can turn just as easily stunned as not. I would argue I feel less affected on PC now than console.

[@notchs0son]

Cameron bruh on controller I barely am able to move the cross hair across a door but with the controller it’s a constant movement of aim over a pc where ur arm is the movement and also people can be using very high sensitivity and that can make stuns easier to aim around with a controller because you put the stick on one side until you turn around

[@JtStyxxie]

Aim assist is huge. I'm a PC player and used a controller for 2 weeks with aim assist turned on and my jaw dropped at how much it sticks to the enemy.

[@DroaTherapy]

Than you probably aren't really good on PC

[@j0nas73]

Xclusive: PC have advantage!, Console have advantages! Pro streamer: Add them up!

[@daniele4568]

M&K user here. I pretty much feel the same way. There's times, usually at range, where I feel I have an advantage. Up close, it's more difficult to stay on target. I do struggle in the gulag.

[@seeker_of_knowlage3568]

hah? it is very easy to when gulag if you use some timed jumps in some corners. I didn't try it. but I watched some streamers (like Typical Gamer) who have 99% when rate in gulag by using simple jumps and slides.

[@Just_Cheese]

Just keep in mind that you, as an MKB user, can jump or slide, aim, and shoot at the same time. While controller users cannot do that without custom controller or changing button layout (of which most controller users don’t generally bother to do so). If you struggle in the gulag, it is probably because of your playstyle. Maybe you’re just unfamiliar with close-ranged battles?

[@j.krollin1307]

Yes we can? The controller settings is called " stick and move" it swaps L3 and X. So you never have to take you thumb of the stick to jump

[@Darkfernape]

i say its the opposite because at range it feel like controller dont miss

[@mrjay6934]

cheezee889 play claw scrub

[@domblaze]

They need to allow XB1 to disable crossplay in Warzone since PS4 can. I’d love for them to make it input-based matchmaking, but let’s be honest, plenty of people will just use XIM and CronusMax so it won’t be perfect still. Still, they should make input-based an option.

[@UnknownStrobes]

Dominic Schatzan saw a fix on reddit for this

[@razzarazza1238]

They're should be a system (hoping they can do it for next gen) that detects if your using a Cronus max and it should just throw you with other cheating scum their you go have fun and let the rest of us play legit same with pc hakers, just let them get each other in a match and see how much fun they have

[@Arirezz]

I have that option?

[@smurfpoppin4470]

Xim isnt as cheaty as cronusmax xim allows mnk on games that wont no scripts added cronusmax however LITERALLY ADJUSTS RECOIL for u.

[@deoduceassassin]

I used to play on consoles exclusively back in the day. When I switched to pc it took me a while to get used to it but once I did I noticed how much better I got at aiming at long distances and hitting targets. In warzone I did notice how close quarters combat felt slightly more difficult but not to the point where I was losing every close quarter combat.

[@mr.charizard9232]

Up close it’s easier to hit your shots with a controller because of the aim assist being so strong! Long range a mouse has the advantage but most fights that matter are up close so I would say controller is better if you wanna be really good and compete. There’s a reason all the pros play on controller and there’s a reason why the majority of the top guys in warzone are on controller.

[@elsevillaart]

Lol, a kill cam from a controller, first two shots misses the next one hits the ankle, the next one the torso and last shots if you are lucky their head....what a great auto aim. Now lets see a kill cam from a mouse player.....all the shots in the head with no recoil. And they complain of auto aim.

[@moritzrossbroich]

After playing a lot of warzone in the last days I feel like the normal multiplayer would be so much better if enemies appeared on the minimap too when firing their weapon. Also I think sbmm is kind of ruining warzone.

[@moritzrossbroich]

@rabid Exactly and that's really annoying. They aren't trying making a good game.. They are trying to make a game that's easy for noobs so more buy it.. They don't care about the people who have been playing for years

[@marktaekema3174]

Moritz Rossbroich The game made over 900 million dollars in the first 3 days since launch on game copies alone and they still want more, even though they dont fix actual problems other than bugs. How much of the complains did they actuallu fix since launch? M4? Barely. 725? Yes. Footsteps? Barely. Overkill? Not actually. SBMM? No, they even denied its existence in general, even though evidence says its there. Enemy shots not appearing on mini map? No. Most of the core issues of the game have not or negligibly been fixed.

[@moritzrossbroich]

@@marktaekema3174 I couldn't agree more

[@juhRave]

There’s SBMM on Warzone?? How?

[@casey5652]

crazy you think that even though the dev team has said there is no sbmm in wazone dozens of times.

[@Burnout1997]

Great video Ace. But you kind of took a shot at PC players for no reason by bringing up cheaters and hackers. People on PC don't want to run into them either...

[@merrickcassian5044]

You missed his point then. Since PC players bitch that console players have unfair aim, he’s saying he would be more than glad to have cross play disabled so that PC players don’t have to deal with controllers (as if controllers are OP lmao...) and console players don’t have to deal with hackers. He is obviously not saying PC players are all hackers, or that PC players enjoy playing against hackers.

[@wessturdevant6260]

Tyler he’s saying there are more cheaters on PC and that’s true, if you’re not one of them then why are you getting butt hurt?

[@kayshell66]

People on console run aimbot scripts, no recoil scripts, and jitter mods all the time, but his point was it’s primarily a problem on PC which is true. It was less of a “shot” and more of a “check your privilege” moment imo.

[@jasona496]

Lol no one on console has an aimbot.

[@kayshell66]

Jason Anscombe There’s literal tutorials for how to get no recoil and aimbot on the Cronus Max...how do you not know about this...

[@NoFaTe]

I switched to controller on PC and it dramatically improved my gameplay. And I can utilize a higher refresh rate with my 144htz monitor. Where as a console only goes up to 60htz

[@klaytonkent5203]

Crazy how PC players actually convinced themselves that the advantages of running a controller actually outweigh the benefits of using mouse and keyboard

[@iamhardwell2844]

watch this video before comment dude

[@bladeclanhalo3]

"slowdown bubble around your target" unless you activate precision mode in the settings which reduces that bubble by almost half, making it much easier to pull snapping shots on people

[@f_alcon2903]

yeah, but who tf uses precision

[@bladeclanhalo3]

@@f_alcon2903 considering its the strongest...people who arent dumb

[@f_alcon2903]

bladeclanhalo3 i've tried it and i dont like it. Maybe its just personal preference, but i dont like it. Focusing abd Standard tho

[@invisibel3211]

@@f_alcon2903 focusing and dynamic are fire

[@hdwblade]

How does that work? I didn't know console had so many options like that.

[@felixf4378]

The FOV slider makes things at a distance smaller, so it has a drawback. You can see more but those things will be smaller.

[@bray2079]

Yes that what I was saying also. The only real advantage of the FOV slider to me is it helps reduce my motion sickness but then I have to run a magnified scope to hit my targets

[@jmpierce83]

You can set your ADS to use default FOV

[@qiyuxuan9437]

@@bray2079 Pretty sure you can keep you ADS fov to default, while having a wider fov. But the drawback is the ads animation have a much grater zoom in effect, that that can throw your aim off.

[@jesseredfield8194]

Counsel w controller, and backpaddles (as of yesterday) and all a PC player has to do if their worried about their advantages of frame rate, aim bots and a mouse being outweighed by an aim assist is disable the crossplay option in settings. They did a really nice job with evening things out when no cheaters are in lobby.

[@norussian556]

as a console player i hate going against PC players that have a huge advantage in everyday possible

[@Sinnbad21]

I really love that you explained the difference of the range of motion. That’s easily the biggest difference. Using the tip of one finger on a weighted stick is far less advantageous than using the stability of your entire hand on a smooth surface. And being able to only move an inch in either direction is way worse than having the whole mousepad. Makes for much less precise aiming. I don’t see a lot of people bringing these two things up but I believe they are the most important. Lemme use a rough example.... Imagine a volume knob on a radio. This volume knob ranges from volumes 1 to 100. You want to set the volume to 35. If you have a knob that only moves half an inch to the left or right but still have 100 numbers to choose from, it’s gonna be incredibly hard to set it precisely to 35. Now if you have a knob that moves a foot in either direction, you now are able to be way more accurate. That’s a pretty dramatic example but I think it highlights the point

[@scottbowman8210]

Ok but you are still describing digital coding not analog. The thing you are forgetting is that you get those numbers 1-100, pc gets 0 and 1. You wouldn’t always want to mash the gas to the floor, especially in a school zone, right? You wouldn’t want to smash the brakes just to slow down 10 mph, right? Y’all can walk, we only get jog and full sprint. Mouse aim is still superior in your sense, but only when it comes to getting on target. The real advantage for console comes in when the target is moving, pc is all manual. Shoot the gun, it’s all up to your hand to control the recoil. Oh you’re getting shot back at? Yeah use your hand to keep your one pixel bullet on the target while they get help aiming at you. So while y’all need the balance to get onto target, I can’t understand why you get so much more advantage in gunfights. I mean this isn’t hard to think about is it? When controller gets bullet flinch you have the ability to enter a constant stream of 35 for example, pc has to do ALL of that adjustment manually and it’s not a constant and consistent movement.

[@AlbertStewart]

You forgot to mention when a KB&M player runs out of mousepad during a close range engagement.

[@1993Duckman]

Me *spins around because I saw someone. Has to reset mouse position. Dies

[@Naurloss]

@Logan Owens don't forget to say goodbye to sniping and precision with that much DPI.

[@Naurloss]

@Logan Owens try using that while prone in ADS. You cant. Or while mounted. Guess what, you can't as well. As well as if you are standing or crouched and you are wasding it will sway your scope as hell, aspecially if you are using a high-magnification scope. So no, it isn't a solution just as well as it wasn't an argument inb4 that.

[@AlbertStewart]

@Logan Owens Everyone's sensitivity is different but more importantly, it happens when I need to turn in a direction that I already was JUST turning. If I'm already turning right and an enemy runs up on me to my right at close range, there's only so far I can turn before I run out of mousepad.

[@AlbertStewart]

@Logan Owens Anyone suggesting having a sensitivity so high that they can do a 360 within 2 inches is "literally retarded". Dipshit

[@stfuna4b]

Good thing you clarified that there is no aim assist snapping, I think most PC players think that's what console players have because they've played zombie mode with friends a few times... Also, I am a PC player and play mostly CS:GO, a recurring meme for someone who can't aim in this community is that they're playing with a controller...

[@codfishstrangler9133]

As a console player with aim assist all the way down I feel like I’m at the disadvantage over all of them