Do Demons Belong to Satan?

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@Ciprian-IonutPanait
@Ciprian-IonutPanait 11 ай бұрын
According to a saint demons hate humans for two reasons: we are made in the image of God and second the saints are meant to replace the positions from which they fell.
@J0HN5AW
@J0HN5AW 5 жыл бұрын
I was raised KJV-only and was recently shocked to learn the KJV does NOT use the word 'demon'. I could have sworn it did. King James even wrote a book titled "Demonology" BEFORE he created the KJV, yet the KJV does NOT use the word 'demon'. Wow! Does the Orthodox Church believe there is a difference between demons and devils? D&D says demons are chaotic evil and that devils are lawful evil. Thank you :)
@miloradvlaovic
@miloradvlaovic 5 жыл бұрын
Heavens am I triggered when I hear people using "satan" as a name. I blame Americans for that. Or rather American English. It's so concisely explained here (courtesy of Wikipedia) that I'll just cite, as I probably would not explain it as well myself, anyway: _"The original Hebrew term sâtan (Hebrew: שָּׂטָן‎) is a generic noun meaning "accuser" or "adversary",[7][8] which is used throughout the Hebrew Bible to refer to ordinary human adversaries,[9][8] as well as a specific supernatural entity.[9][8] The word is derived from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose".[10] When it is used without the definite article (simply satan), the word can refer to any accuser,[9] but when it is used with the definite article (ha-satan), it usually refers specifically to the heavenly accuser: the satan.[9]"_ Therefore the question was inherently incomplete. To which satan? If I'm not mistaken, the Lord Christ Himself, addresses Peter as "satan", telling him "vade retro me satana" . I don't hear as often people addressing the Devil/Lucifer/The Adversary as "satan" in the Serbian Orthodox church, and that honestly gives me joy. He has his/its name, and addressing him "merely" as satan is kind of dangerous, because it undermines his significance and makes us fear him less, which is basically what he wants. To quote a movie character; "The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World He Didn't Exist". When he can't do that (bcs one is a Christian for example) he'll try to make us feel like he's one of the many run-of-the-mill opposing characters, perhaps no different than a simple human opposing you in a debate. Or a lawyer. Than again, lawyers are basically demons, I mean they do the same job 80% of the time, so yeah, scratch that one...lol.
@carissstewart3211
@carissstewart3211 5 жыл бұрын
What an odd pet peeve. Christ is also a title. It comes from the Greek translation of the the Hebrew משיח meaning "anointed one." The word is used multiple times in the Hebrew Bible to describe various individuals, including the Persian emperor Cyrus. And yet, it is perfectly acceptable to use the word "Christ" as a synonym for Jesus. "Satan" is both title and a name. The Bible doesn't really tell us what his proper name was prior to his fall; that's frankly none of us business. (Although tradition identifies him as Lucifer.) Since the fall, he is our Enemy and Accuser. Calling him such in no way diminishes him.
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it is a descriptor that is used as a name. It is used like that in the
@gillianc6514
@gillianc6514 5 жыл бұрын
The Jewish understanding of spiritual beings is as diverse as the different branches of Judaism. The description you give is a bit one sided and I think more orthodox Jews would have a views much closer to traditional Christianity where the angelology (where it exists) very much depends on how influenced you were by either Plato or Aristotle!
@miloradvlaovic
@miloradvlaovic 5 жыл бұрын
From what I've read, he's understood (In Judaism and its tradition) to be anything from a metaphor for yetzer hara, to a fallen angel much like in Christianity. Including of course, anything between the two "extremes", in a wand of a better word. Is that true?
@dylanchouinard6141
@dylanchouinard6141 5 жыл бұрын
This is very true. The idea that Satan is a tempter on G-d’s behalf is one of the views, one that is supported somewhat by scripture. Some others see Satan as the angel of death, as the prosecutor in the court that judges the souls of the dead, sometimes just the personification of the concept of temptation. But in most cases Satan just means ‘adversary’, in the story of Balaam, G-d places an angel in front of Balaam “l’satan lo” “As an adversary for him.” Though it should be mentioned Judaism doesn’t put as much interest into the demonic as Christianity, it’s seen as a bit of a waste of time which could be spent studying and debating Torah.
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say that more Orthodox Jews' view of Satan is influenced by Christianity more than their own teachings - for all his power, Satan and demons barely make an appearance in the Old Testament. :-)
@dylanchouinard6141
@dylanchouinard6141 5 жыл бұрын
Bible Illustrated Hands I could see that. But from what I saw Christian views of Satan are more similar to Kabbalah (the demonic hierarchy, the great evil opposed to G-d). And remember, there is no one Orthodox Jewish view of Satan, or anything for that matter. Unlike Christianity, there really isn’t a big council of Rabbi’s telling Jews what to believe. The different sects of Judaism (Reconstructionist, Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Ultra-Orthodox) are less based on concrete creeds and more on how Torah should be interpreted.
@gillianc6514
@gillianc6514 5 жыл бұрын
@@BanterWithBojan The lack of a mention in the OT doesn't mean that they weren't part of ancient Jewish tradition. The New Testament was mainly written by souls from a Jewish heritage, they didn't invent their beliefs on the spot and nor are the beliefs Hellenic. The problem is there are no longer any Jewish Pharisees, their eschatology and angelology is primarily where ours comes from, we have preserved and embellished theirs.
@atanasiogreene8493
@atanasiogreene8493 5 жыл бұрын
Two questions of a drawing of a saint is done with colored pencils can it be considered an icon. Second what art supplies do you use to make illustrations for the videos.
@emilylloyd1684
@emilylloyd1684 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, I'll have you know my personal demons are mine, no one else's. jk jk lol
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