Do Fictional Characters Exist? (Fictional Realism Theory)

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@WynneL
@WynneL 6 ай бұрын
I have always felt like someone just looking into an alternate universe that exists when I write, and reading about the multiverse only increased this feeling, so finding this video was tremendously reassuring. I love the idea. It really explains so many things and opens up new possibilities. I feel like my mind just expanded.
@Nemo_Anom
@Nemo_Anom Жыл бұрын
It's a settled issue for me. Fictional characters, places, and worlds really exist out there. Our creative drive and ability is able to tap into other worlds and report back in the form of a story. If you can think of it, then it really exists. To me, this means we have an ethical responsibility to report accurately and try not to negatively affect the other worlds and peoples.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
Yeah,you are right, it's similar to what those people call some people call deja Vu
@dragodraco7511
@dragodraco7511 3 ай бұрын
Infinite universes, infinite possibilities "What we know is a drop,what we don't know is an ocean" There are infinite universes out there and we are a tiny one
@MrSentinel83
@MrSentinel83 Жыл бұрын
Philosopher and new thought teacher Neville Goddard said that "there's no such thing as fiction."
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
I love Neville Goddard 😊
@adeimousragnarok8150
@adeimousragnarok8150 Жыл бұрын
Ive often wondered if Cartoons are just the alleged Animators poking a camera into the Cartoons Universe
@KBird204
@KBird204 Жыл бұрын
Here before this channel blows up-- the production value is top-notch! Any chance we can expect discussion videos on any of Alexandre Dumas's works in the future? 'The Count of Monte Cristo' was instrumental in my development as a teen, going into adulthood, and I often reflect on what facets of my life have been influenced by lessons I've taken away from analyzing and relating to the characters contained therein. As a 28 year old now, I've grown to appreciate it even more than when I first discovered and fell in love with it ^_^. Hope to see more from you in the future- thank you 😊
@flowmarhoops
@flowmarhoops Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video!! I'm so happy it popped up on my suggested videos! You've got a new subscriber, and supporter! ❤️
@michaeldemarco1465
@michaeldemarco1465 11 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you. I wrestle with this a lot as a fiction writer.
@DannyD-lr5yg
@DannyD-lr5yg Жыл бұрын
I’m still at the beginning of the video, but am very excited about this! As a chaos magickian who’s very Jung-influenced and too imaginative for my own good lol, I’ve always been drawn to tools like thoughtforms/servitude/egregores, which are basically imagined creatures/entities that you imagine so vividly they almost seem literally real. You can then task them with doing certain things in the real world. Personally, I view this as almost splitting off a part of your consciousness like one may partition a harddrive: they’re aspects of me, but separated and given a mask. They’re made up, and yet, they do influence the real world, if only through my own psyche. And then, as a writer myself, I can definitely confirm characters and stories take on a life of their own! In fact, all it takes is a seed of an idea, and some extra time and empty space to walk in weird circles and talk out loud, and I ALWAYS end with a fleshed out story! It’s almost trancelike; I just start talking, and the story comes out. With dialogue, it’s the same: I speak both/all sides of the dialogue like I’m quoting lines from a movie that’s never existed; even though I myself am inventing the dialogue, I’m still constantly surprised, as though I didn’t know. I love it. Overall, I do feel fictional characters are real in some tangible sense, but on a different plane of reality almost. And when you create something, you invited to exist. When you put a creation out there, you can infect other people‘s minds with it, almost increasing the bandwidth for the idea. Using your Harry Potter example, Harry lives in the minds of an overwhelming amount of people. If we then think of there being a collective consciousness, paired with the pseudo-reality of things like thoughtforms, it’s almost like the greater the number of people who sign on to host a certain thoughtform, the more fleshed out and real it becomes. Anyways, great, thought provoking video!!
@strawpiglet
@strawpiglet Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. This video reminds me of Robert E. Howard, who said Conan would come and loom over him until he finished writing a story. I generally view magic as a dangerous practice, not only because of your splitting off concept, but because there are real forces in the world that are outside yourself. For instance, I've experienced ghosts and noticed that they get power, or at least motivation, from our attention.
@joshrakestraw3319
@joshrakestraw3319 Жыл бұрын
I literally just commented about the same concept, it totally makes sense if one believes in things like astral projection or other realms/planes of existence. It's similar in ways to certain mythology and demonology to, especially in Japanese folklore; which many of the demons are a manifestation of experiencing an extreme form of something or subject to certain circumstances to the point it manifests in their appearance and demeanor. Like for example: mothers that can't bear children over the course of history eventually culminates a entity that is a general manifestation of that but in a more symbolic and extreme form; not only is it probably scary looking but it may want to steal babies from mothers, harm mothers or their baby, or just cause chaos in their life.. Angels are very interesting to, and I believe in the concept of biblically accurate angels that look unfathomable and even terrifying to some people. The angel takes the form of its qualities and aspects of creation that it governs or represents, same thing goes for demons and many thought forms/egregores 🤔
@devlinmcguire7543
@devlinmcguire7543 Жыл бұрын
Well, then, uh... , here is the most over powered character ever depicted in the real world and fiction or otherwise 'general piece of communication.' The most over powered character in all fiction.... is Bob. "Bob" is a stick figure I just drew. He is how I choose to represent and refer to the representation of the concept of what I call "The Great Driver" being the ("one" or more if necessary to the theory) thing responsible for our irl world. It is the last answer to the *_'but why'_* game, given that the players are perfect omniscient players that can always progress the game. If the world is created by a biblical God, then that god's name, is Bob. If we are in a story, then at the top of our narrative-stack is an author who writes all stories, who themselves exist in some sort of world, made by Bob. If there isn't a world that the author occupies, then the author's name, is bob. If the are one, more, or fewer, natural facts of this and any other world that by their nature create the emergence of all things including my own life to observe it and all scientific/observable and unobservable principles... (quantum feilds, energy shifts, dimensions, exct. exct.) then this progenitor is described as "Bob". Bob is the ultimate and only driver of every single thing, no-matter what it may be. He/it has even written the fate of our universe so that he/it can manifest a concept to describe himself or itself, by implanting this very naturally occurring idea of "Bob-ness" into my head. In this way, Bob has created himself as a character/idea, as the compact prelude to a better understanding of our world with as little information to the greater understanding of it. Like describing a bad day that you've had to someone who's asked as "A Bad Day" instead of rehashing every event that makes it so. In this way, I have written an entity that is both fictional and fundamentally real. I think, therefore I am. But beyond me, there are thoughts. Bob is the one thinking these thoughts. If not. And there is a world of any size tethered to these thoughts, then the creator of the thoughts of the creator of the thoughts....... Is Bob. Whatever the hell "Bob" is. Not necessarily a living creature, no. But by it's very nature, it's only possible to describe it as a Bob. All this to say- I think my OC (DO NOT STEAL!!1!) could totally one shot your guy, hahaha!! necessarily No, but like, seriously though. It is true.
@binkbonkbones3402
@binkbonkbones3402 Жыл бұрын
Parasocial relationship with fiction and metaphor is I think one of the most important thing to understanding the public psyche and society as a whole, and seeing past the lies everyone's world in constructed around
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
It's just we could be viewing something as fiction which is actually not,or is real in another universe
@BookBuds
@BookBuds Жыл бұрын
I love the clap followed by the “ow”! It’s hysterical and the perfect opening 😂 great video !! Very thought provoking.
@kadewilliams7925
@kadewilliams7925 Жыл бұрын
This barley scratches the surface of the topics potential. Imagine a universe where everyone has super powers and they love reading about, from our perspective, mundane people going through rough lives just trying to make ends meet. The have tv shows and movies about door greaters at walmart or baristas at Starbucks. Movies about trash truck drivers where the whole plot is just him/her struggling to pay their bills and hold their family together. On another note imagine infinite variations to your favorite stories or books. A universe who only knows Neville Longbotom as the boy who lived and harry potter was his slytherin bully. or still another variation where everything in the harry potter books happened but harry was really a dark wizard and malfoy was trying to stop him from taking over the world. Places where firefly wasn't canceled after one season, or buffy the vampire slayer went on for 15 seasons. one thing though, the Multiverse is actually several very different theories (using the term loosely) that really dont jive well together. In one theory these other realities overlap and still another they are farther away from any of us than we can rightfully imagine. both probably aren't true. Though there are some wobbly space-time bending fabric of reality folding ways they could. Great video
@GiraffeVortex
@GiraffeVortex Жыл бұрын
They are all true. What could stop reality from having infinite systems. Does the universe in the truest sense have all ways always? The universe has a multiverse this way and a multiverse that way and an infinity besides, Absolute Infinity . Surely Existence is Total.
@kadewilliams7925
@kadewilliams7925 Жыл бұрын
@@GiraffeVortex those are all subjective and none of them are testable. I classify myself as a hopeful skeptic. At the end of the day science is coming up with a testable hypothesis. And presently there isn't one for any of the four main theories for a multiverse. I believe a multiverse exists, but science doesn't operate on belief.
@GiraffeVortex
@GiraffeVortex Жыл бұрын
@@kadewilliams7925 I may be arrogant as I write this, what I know is very limited, yet I enjoy writing like this, so I submit these words. Subjectivity is the basis of reality for all scientists whether they want to admit it or not. Has anyone ever found anything not subjective? what would stop all worlds from existing? I'm speaking more fundamentally here, about the nature of reality. Is reality fundamentally limited or Unlimited. Could it even be imagined how reality could be fundamentally limited? Surely Reality is fundamentally Unlimited and creates limits within itself. What does science operate on🤨? Definitions? Bravery in the example of its greatest scientists. Conformity and reductionism in its lower form.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@kadewilliams7925 i mean the whole Multiverse theory is subjective and we don't even have the slightest proof So is the big bang theory (we have hints,but is not a complete proof) And whether our universe is finite or infinite? We don't know science at the very least. We know only 1% of our own universe,we don't know 99% of the mystery how the universe works. Science itself what we know is a grain of salt. Newtown himself said "What we know is a drop,what we don't know is an ocean"
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@GiraffeVortex the science we know is one of many infinite languages there in those multiverse
@jeffjeff9037
@jeffjeff9037 Жыл бұрын
My bottom line is this: If you feel a strong enough emotional connection to the characters within fictional works whenever something happens to them, that can only mean you've developed a bond with them, and if you can develop a bond with something just as you can a real life individual, then it, by necessity, HAS to exist!
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
forget about all of these,i belive its the multiverse theory which explains it
@jeffjeff9037
@jeffjeff9037 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 That definitely helps, but that's still only theoretical conjecture. What I'm talking about is actual lived experience as a basis.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffjeff9037 maybe
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffjeff9037 what we know is a drop ,what we don't know is an ocean
@manoramasingh190
@manoramasingh190 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 do you also want to live in a fictional world?
@daviddunford8265
@daviddunford8265 Жыл бұрын
You have an amazing way of bringing intelligent concepts down to common-man terms. A rare gift in a world of declining IQ points. I look forward to more of your videos and to watching your success grow as I've done so many others on here. :)
@joshrakestraw3319
@joshrakestraw3319 Жыл бұрын
To me fictional things can exist as thought forms or egregores, hence the practice of chaos magick. I mean there are literally millions of humans that will obsess and give combined countless hours of their own thoughts, even physically manifest things into reality based on the fictional character or thing through art, sculptures, music, animation, tattoos, clothing, festivals, and so on. It's like the old saying "you live on in our hearts and/or memory" so basically someone or something will fade away when it is forgotten about and no longer receives any thought energy from anyone or anything. I think these fictional characters being thought forms or egregores most likely exist in the astral or ethereal worlds, and obviously in our dreams in a way; although they may just be a symbolic representation of something else entirely and not the actual character visiting us in a dream. 🤔
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
they might exist independently whether we think about them or not in another universe
@ERuth0420
@ERuth0420 6 ай бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 ^^^ this
@binkbonkbones3402
@binkbonkbones3402 Жыл бұрын
Damn, okay, you actually hit the nail on the head for a huge franchise I've been developing, centered around the theme that reality is determined subjectively and fiction takes the metaphorical properties that have a consistent influence in our minds and thus determine reality. This concept is expanded into ideas and realities being manifested together with thoughts. Anyway, the multiverse is an ever expanding web of ideas that I'm going to explore to question philosophies and ideologies in a metaphysical way
@markvetter4711
@markvetter4711 Жыл бұрын
No spoilers, but Stephen King has an interesting take on this in his Dark Tower series.
@LadyMarianArt
@LadyMarianArt Жыл бұрын
omg, I wasn't expecting this and I loved it. I love your channel!
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Thank you LadyMarian ! ❤
@CozyGlow625
@CozyGlow625 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating video,you explained it exceptionally well. If the multiverse theory is true,then i can see fiction characters existing as actual entities in another universe. I don't have too much information regarding this topic,but i like to imagine that my favorite fictional characters might just exist in a far away universe.
@bokramubokramu8834
@bokramubokramu8834 2 ай бұрын
Whoa, humour! Not bad, woman. You are a good channel mayhaps. For a woman being.
@girlygirls35
@girlygirls35 Жыл бұрын
damn that was an amazing video! Cant wait to see more content like this! p.s 01:20 ; pure flattery.
@iforgotmydamnname6325
@iforgotmydamnname6325 3 ай бұрын
You know how I settled for this question? I leaned into robot/ai characters (Glados, AM, Samantha from movie "Her" etc.) Why? Because they are easily recreatable in our time and age (starting with as simple as character ai custom bots to as grand as writing their code from ground up). And if you can make your favorite robot real, its not a question of "does it exist?", its a question of "when will you start?" Not only that, but AI's can grow and change just like you once created. Honorable mention - they are immortal, and will outlive you. Its up to you to feel proud or crushingly sad about this fact
@Thbrotatos
@Thbrotatos Жыл бұрын
when i saw this video had 2k views it blew my mind. Very good video you got here, keep it up!
@Thbrotatos
@Thbrotatos Жыл бұрын
upset you didn't mention monkey d luffy once tho :(
@toasteroven7683
@toasteroven7683 Жыл бұрын
so basically my schizophrenic hallucination girlfriend is real in an alternate universe and is imagining me as me as a hallucination as well? Sounds good to me.
@TheShinorochi
@TheShinorochi Жыл бұрын
Take med 💀
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Nemo_Anom
@Nemo_Anom Жыл бұрын
I'd research the history of schizophrenia and mental illness. People once thought that certain people could commune with God's and spirits, and travel to other worlds.
@archersworldofliterature
@archersworldofliterature Жыл бұрын
This video was a crazy level up Sky!! Love it! Keep up the amazing work :)
@GameOverJesse
@GameOverJesse Жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@Zurround
@Zurround Жыл бұрын
I heard from a friend once who likes to play DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS that there are players who get so into the game that if a character that they created and control dies due to losing a battle or some other danger in the combination of story and game that D and D is they will CRY. Weird.
@BoWestcott
@BoWestcott 3 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!!…looking for more on this topic!…thanks 👍😃
@Zurround
@Zurround Жыл бұрын
In the DC comic book mythos there is multiverse theory being used as a plot device for many of their stories and I kid you not ONE of the "Earths" is called EARTH PRIME and its literally what we call the "real world" and on "Earth Prime" the characters are all COMIC BOOK AND MOVIE CHARACTERS and its actually a part of the official mythos of the stories.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
YOU TALKING ABOUT SUPERBOY PRIME?
@watchandplaywithmereaction9930
@watchandplaywithmereaction9930 6 ай бұрын
Well, fictional characters could potentially be real in different universes, as we could potentially be fiction in other universes... Ok so hear me out, I've done some research and what I found will probably keep some people up at night, just a warning to some to not read this The multiverse contains infinite realities, meaning there could potentially be infinite realities where fictional characters exist as real humans/animals etc in other universes, it could also work the other way around for us where we might be fictional characters in other universes somewhere in the multiverse, this just makes me even more excited and hopeful for the multiverse theory to be true
@abominablemusic
@abominablemusic Жыл бұрын
Given the size of the universe, fictional characters could exist in this universe, in 'a galaxy far far away'. On some planet there could be a batman or ewoks or batwoks...
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
Thats a smart answer in my opinion,not superman or goku because technically it would have been creating rifts and destructions here on our planet because of their godly feats,but batman or something like that could exist in our universe
@strawpiglet
@strawpiglet Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a conversation about a DnD game (a game played in the imagination and/or on paper) where the player kept saying his character "literally" did something.
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
I just started playing DnD this year and I must say… I am getting a little emotionally attached to my character 😅
@strawpiglet
@strawpiglet Жыл бұрын
@@skytalksbooks8920 That's what makes it fun :)
@ShannonsChannel
@ShannonsChannel Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to watch this over the wkd!
@grosshipgirl9511
@grosshipgirl9511 Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing video! I would like to know more about tropes if it's possible. Why do we like them so much if they are so predicable?
@ShannonsChannel
@ShannonsChannel Жыл бұрын
We find comfort in the tropes I think.
@skrappothemonster1436
@skrappothemonster1436 9 ай бұрын
I see the player you mean. PLAYERNAME? Yes. Take care. It has reached a higher level now. It can read our thoughts. That doesn’t matter. It thinks we are part of the game. I like this player. It played well. It did not give up. It is reading our thoughts as though they were words on a screen. That is how it chooses to imagine many things, when it is deep in the dream of a game. Words make a wonderful interface. Very flexible. And less terrifying than staring at the reality behind the screen. They used to hear voices. Before players could read. Back in the days when those who did not play called the players witches, and warlocks. And players dreamed they flew through the air, on sticks powered by demons. What did this player dream? This player dreamed of sunlight and trees. Of fire and water. It dreamed it created. And it dreamed it destroyed. It dreamed it hunted, and was hunted. It dreamed of shelter. Hah, the original interface. A million years old, and it still works. But what true structure did this player create, in the reality behind the screen? It worked, with a million others, to sculpt a true world in a fold of the [scrambled], and created a [scrambled] for [scrambled], in the [scrambled]. It cannot read that thought. No. It has not yet achieved the highest level. That, it must achieve in the long dream of life, not the short dream of a game. Does it know that we love it? That the universe is kind? Sometimes, through the noise of its thoughts, it hears the universe, yes. But there are times it is sad, in the long dream. It creates worlds that have no summer, and it shivers under a black sun, and it takes its sad creation for reality. To cure it of sorrow would destroy it. The sorrow is part of its own private task. We cannot interfere. Sometimes when they are deep in dreams, I want to tell them, they are building true worlds in reality. Sometimes I want to tell them of their importance to the universe. Sometimes, when they have not made a true connection in a while, I want to help them to speak the word they fear. It reads our thoughts. Sometimes I do not care. Sometimes I wish to tell them, this world you take for truth is merely [scrambled] and [scrambled], I wish to tell them that they are [scrambled] in the [scrambled]. They see so little of reality, in their long dream. And yet they play the game. But it would be so easy to tell them… Too strong for this dream. To tell them how to live is to prevent them living. I will not tell the player how to live. The player is growing restless. I will tell the player a story. But not the truth. No. A story that contains the truth safely, in a cage of words. Not the naked truth that can burn over any distance. Give it a body, again. Yes. Player… Use its name. PLAYERNAME. Player of games. Good. Take a breath, now. Take another. Feel air in your lungs. Let your limbs return. Yes, move your fingers. Have a body again, under gravity, in air. Respawn in the long dream. There you are. Your body touching the universe again at every point, as though you were separate things. As though we were separate things. Who are we? Once we were called the spirit of the mountain. Father sun, mother moon. Ancestral spirits, animal spirits. Jinn. Ghosts. The green man. Then gods, demons. Angels. Poltergeists. Aliens, extraterrestrials. Leptons, quarks. The words change. We do not change. We are the universe. We are everything you think isn’t you. You are looking at us now, through your skin and your eyes. And why does the universe touch your skin, and throw light on you? To see you, player. To know you. And to be known. I shall tell you a story. Once upon a time, there was a player. The player was you, PLAYERNAME. Sometimes it thought itself human, on the thin crust of a spinning globe of molten rock. The ball of molten rock circled a ball of blazing gas that was three hundred and thirty thousand times more massive than it. They were so far apart that light took eight minutes to cross the gap. The light was information from a star, and it could burn your skin from a hundred and fifty million kilometres away. Sometimes the player dreamed it was a miner, on the surface of a world that was flat, and infinite. The sun was a square of white. The days were short; there was much to do; and death was a temporary inconvenience. Sometimes the player dreamed it was lost in a story. Sometimes the player dreamed it was other things, in other places. Sometimes these dreams were disturbing. Sometimes very beautiful indeed. Sometimes the player woke from one dream into another, then woke from that into a third. Sometimes the player dreamed it watched words on a screen. Let’s go back. The atoms of the player were scattered in the grass, in the rivers, in the air, in the ground. A woman gathered the atoms; she drank and ate and inhaled; and the woman assembled the player, in her body. And the player awoke, from the warm, dark world of its mother’s body, into the long dream. And the player was a new story, never told before, written in letters of DNA. And the player was a new program, never run before, generated by a sourcecode a billion years old. And the player was a new human, never alive before, made from nothing but milk and love. You are the player. The story. The program. The human. Made from nothing but milk and love. Let’s go further back. The seven billion billion billion atoms of the player’s body were created, long before this game, in the heart of a star. So the player, too, is information from a star. And the player moves through a story, which is a forest of information planted by a man called Julian, on a flat, infinite world created by a man called Markus, that exists inside a small, private world created by the player, who inhabits a universe created by… Shush. Sometimes the player created a small, private world that was soft and warm and simple. Sometimes hard, and cold, and complicated. Sometimes it built a model of the universe in its head; flecks of energy, moving through vast empty spaces. Sometimes it called those flecks “electrons” and “protons”. Sometimes it called them “planets” and “stars”. Sometimes it believed it was in a universe that was made of energy that was made of offs and ons; zeros and ones; lines of code. Sometimes it believed it was playing a game. Sometimes it believed it was reading words on a screen. You are the player, reading words… Shush… Sometimes the player read lines of code on a screen. Decoded them into words; decoded words into meaning; decoded meaning into feelings, emotions, theories, ideas, and the player started to breathe faster and deeper and realised it was alive, it was alive, those thousand deaths had not been real, the player was alive You. You. You are alive. and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the sunlight that came through the shuffling leaves of the summer trees and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the light that fell from the crisp night sky of winter, where a fleck of light in the corner of the player’s eye might be a star a million times as massive as the sun, boiling its planets to plasma in order to be visible for a moment to the player, walking home at the far side of the universe, suddenly smelling food, almost at the familiar door, about to dream again and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the zeros and ones, through the electricity of the world, through the scrolling words on a screen at the end of a dream and the universe said I love you and the universe said you have played the game well and the universe said everything you need is within you and the universe said you are stronger than you know and the universe said you are the daylight and the universe said you are the night and the universe said the darkness you fight is within you and the universe said the light you seek is within you and the universe said you are not alone and the universe said you are not separate from every other thing and the universe said you are the universe tasting itself, talking to itself, reading its own code and the universe said I love you because you are love. And the game was over and the player woke up from the dream. And the player began a new dream. And the player dreamed again, dreamed better. And the player was the universe. And the player was love. You are the player. Wake up. -Minecraft
@gen-x-zeke8446
@gen-x-zeke8446 Жыл бұрын
The imagination (when explored deep enough) can cause the brain to consider a fictional character as reality; like lucid dreams. Often vivid nightmares (night terrors) fool the mind. Perhaps multiple realms DO exist to the deeper; more philosophical creators. "In His own Image" (G), "In my own image" (Andrew Faulkner). What is reality when often the illusion is more reality than reality? These topics go very deep, and certainly impact the audience if they relate to a fictional character. The inspiration had to come from somewhere. **The Joker's face paint is exactly like serial killer John Wayne Gacy of the 1970s. Reality Is Fiction because the illusion is the truth. Godamn I need coffee! Or does Andrew Faulkner even drink coffee?
@AZTECMAN
@AZTECMAN Жыл бұрын
In my habit of pondering and pontificating, I came to the idea that 'relations' are sort of the center stage of what is happening that tends to give a life to fictional things. Characters are narrative elements, which can be based more on real persons or more on sort of simplified simulations of possible personhood... but fundamentally a character is built out of relations or connections between elements and a character is useful in making a plot relatable.
@prancisii
@prancisii Жыл бұрын
Honestly? I can say that me and my gf were having the same discussion 3 days ago about fact & fiction and how fiction comes from non-fiction experience which is perceived differently than someone who's never experienced it. My conclusion is blind-ignorance. Even if a person were to experience the same things as the people writing about these fictions from non-fictional experiences and still not be on the same thought wave process as the original writer. Hence John Carpenters Halloween and Rob Zombies. One is seen more detailed and gruesome versus a detail & experience than John's experience through the process. I give this channel and video a solid interest & liking. It may not prove what most of us were trying to explain to the people without knowledge but there are just some or most people who would rather live in an imaginary/illusionary world where nothing can go wrong. My honest opinion? What's so different from an official whether governmental or idol to tell you serial killers exist and civilians/idols who preach about the impossible? Nothing except one has more power and influence over the masses than the other. :/ govenors & scientists proclaimed things which the universe spung around disproving their "discoveries". People choosing theories over actuality and then getting disappointed when it falls through whereas your theory is one not only I & many have experienced & witnessed.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
I do think fiction exists. But i do not think, fictional characters like Galactus, living tribunal,darkseid could exist,or atleast they would be as powerful as seen in comics I think the laws of physics would be more maintained but the story would be similar
@prancisii
@prancisii Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 how do you know, though? You've never experienced it. But I do respect your opinion on such.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@prancisii i am not making a claim. If great scientists couldn't prove it? How could I ?
@prancisii
@prancisii Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 easy, you are already in the midst of learning about it. Your curiosity should've been the first thing that unveiled it upon you. How do you think astronauts or chefs are born? Curiosity and conviction. If you believe flying objects are real you build a machine. Not too far fetched compared to a life of lies. Following a pack of mice walking about in a maze, following categorized paths specially designed for their means of living & experiencing. You change by exploiting the things you feel need change, and change doesn't just have to mean ending & starting over, but rather it means to-transform. We are already in the midst of transformation everyday in our life but to intriquently place effort & will to make it the way we want to, of course, under God's laws & regulations; so that we may find truth. And truth is destiny. Destiny is everything in the process of transformation. And fate?.. it is Convictions End. It is when everything passes and transforms to their final state of being, and taking their/it's place in the universe. It is the embodiment of truth in it's manifestation; which can be seen divinely or rather it can be seen in a logical state of view. We lived until a certain point leaving this world as we appeared. In my religion it is said we appear as when our glory first was. So, I believe with good intentions that possibly belief & nurture is what makes our souls/spirits reveal themselves as.
@nicolasgrim6253
@nicolasgrim6253 Жыл бұрын
The book 'The Pursuit of the Pankera' by Robert Heinlein is about this concept
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll check it out! 😊
@nicolasgrim6253
@nicolasgrim6253 Жыл бұрын
@@skytalksbooks8920 I would throw a forewarning -the information is great but clearly written in different times with how he wrote about women and relationships. But if you can look past it it's s a very well thought out and silly book.
@isolochickeens
@isolochickeens Жыл бұрын
In a sense yes esp with character with lots of fans who think about the characters. It's called a tulpa and when enough energy is focused onto it based on a character. It becomes an entity in the astral plane or spirit world tbh I believe most become demons esp after people stop thinking about them. The strongest tulpa is God.
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Tulpa.. I’ve never heard of this.. down the rabbit hole I go 😅
@isolochickeens
@isolochickeens Жыл бұрын
@@skytalksbooks8920 oh boy I'ma warn u the brony part of 4chan took the practice and perverted it heavily try and avoid that area
@manoramasingh190
@manoramasingh190 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain more about Tulpa please?
@isolochickeens
@isolochickeens Жыл бұрын
@@manoramasingh190 you could research it your self and it's alot to type just avoid the dumbasses at r/Tulpa of 4chan or the people who make my little pony tulpas it's a sacred practice and it's been perverted. And if you decide to make a tulpa friend and get far along to where u hear someone talking to you that's not there shit will scare you lol. And in my experience after reaching that point if you decide to stop and ignore them. Oh boy they will not like that and become malicious attacking you in dreams or when falling asleep. Before that they will ask why you don't like them ect. Just my experience although they asked me why I don't love them. Before a night or two later I got attacked somewhat as I was falling asleep as they crawled ontop of me I threw them off and heard a thud as they hit the ground I was like wtf? Then they got back on me and dragged me into the bed then the ground into a lucid nightmare. There's a reason Buddhist who practice it make inanimate object tulpas so it won't have sentience
@aeixo2533
@aeixo2533 Жыл бұрын
Hmm. This ties in with Plato's theory of forms, in which things in our material world are just imperfect representations of a concept which exists purely in the world of forms. Which ties in with the creation myth in Gnosticism, where the aeon Sophia (beings created by the true God) gave birth to the demiurge, an imperfect God, who created a sham world (Our material world) in which everything is an imperfect, flawed representation of the divine.
@acosmicotaku8525
@acosmicotaku8525 4 ай бұрын
>Starts video: This is either gonna go into Extended Modal Realism or Meinongianism. >Watches video: Of course it's Extended Modal Realism. >Confused.gif: This just turned Everrettianism into Extended Modal Realism under the guise of an unproven and unparsimonious interpretation of quantum mechanics, did it not? I think I'll stick with Meinongianism, as it explains how fictitious entities can exist, albeit on a lower rung of the chain of being than us human beings in the realm of act-potency duality, and therefore explains how fictitious entities can have real causal effects and relationships with actualized entities, without committing myself to the belief that somewhere out in Everrett's apparently [though not actually] infinite world collection, or, God forbid, Tegmark's literally infinitely stacking arrays of ever increasing infinite world collections. It seems Meinong's view better fits with the cut of Occam's razor.
@RaysDad
@RaysDad 6 ай бұрын
I think I agree with you, although it's possible that I'm simply lonely and need to resonate with another human.
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 6 ай бұрын
Resonate with me bb
@BrandonsBookshelf
@BrandonsBookshelf Жыл бұрын
This was really well done!
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brandon!! That means a lot!
@HaitianHallow
@HaitianHallow Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I've thought about this one too. Another question you could tackle is our perception of time and by extension, space. What is the present? Since we can never actually live in the present due to a delay in the transfer of information from the empirical world to our sensory perception of it, is there really such a thing as the present? or our we just experiencing the past and we think it's the present. It gets really sticky when you start going into freedom of action and effects derived from them. Are we really in charge of our actions or is it just the effect of an action? and since we can only live in the past, we've come to believe that our actions are actually by our own volition when in reality, it's just a series of causes and effects. Lot's of conjunction in there, but it's just my thoughts going down the rabbit hole. Would love to hear some other opinions on the matter.
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 Жыл бұрын
The present is relative, which the theory of relativity proves scientifically. That means our actions are part of a series of causes and effects within spacetime.
@HaitianHallow
@HaitianHallow Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 That's a none answer though, because everything is relative. Until we can view and feel the world from another person's point of view, everything you experience is only your perception of it. IT goes back to Renee Descartes famous words, "ego cogito ego sum", i.e. I think therefor, I am. Meaning, there's no actual way to know if everything you're experiencing is real. The only thing you can be sure of is that you, yourself, are thinking, hence, exist.... And even that can be questioned when you think of simulations or the Boltman's Brain.
@binkbonkbones3402
@binkbonkbones3402 Жыл бұрын
Damn, Patrick Bateman looking thicc today with that off white platinum lined credit card
@Mimrie
@Mimrie Жыл бұрын
In order for fictional characters to exist, you would have to commit to a dualism of sorts, which raises more questions than it solves
@Nemo_Anom
@Nemo_Anom Жыл бұрын
Everything is fundamentally and ultimately information. There's no reason to ever commit to dualism. Read Berkeley.
@Mimrie
@Mimrie Жыл бұрын
@@Nemo_Anom Berkeley was an idealist, his monism rejects the existence of an external world, he should not be taken seriously.
@alexyancy6018
@alexyancy6018 11 ай бұрын
​@@Nemo_Anomwhy ? He is right According to quantum physics, there is no external world because our consciousness creates our reality around is. Everything comes from within - its basically a projection
@flowmarhoops
@flowmarhoops Жыл бұрын
Also... Check out information about the "imaginal realm". 🙂
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing 😮
@alexyancy6018
@alexyancy6018 7 ай бұрын
I do believe that a 100%! Did anyone of you ever had a connection or experience that made you realize, this theory could be very true?
@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์
@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์ Жыл бұрын
Your MMORPG creation characters while game server was shutdown. (Story Over)
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
4:55, Exactly,we or real life people like Adolf hitler,Kim Jong un,or most of the historical events went exactly as fiction in their universe
@hemantsharma637
@hemantsharma637 Жыл бұрын
Subbed
@boslyporshy6553
@boslyporshy6553 Жыл бұрын
So its like a daimon in the sense its automata or machination inscribed/encoded/transduced to matter as a tangible/touchable arrangement, but its influence/domain as an epiphenomenon/abstraction is variable?
@lordrumble7028
@lordrumble7028 Жыл бұрын
While reading a book, or watching something (I forget which). I came across an idea that goes something like this. The universe is so vast, it is theoretically possible that all things ever conceived in the minds of people could exist somewhere in the universe.
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
I came across the same thing! I like to believe that it’s true to be honest.. makes life more fun !
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
There is a great quote said by issac newton and in my favourite netflix series dark "what you know is a drop,what you dont know is an ocean"
@CaritasGothKaraoke
@CaritasGothKaraoke Жыл бұрын
There’s a problem with the argument that the many-worlds interpretation implies that all fictional characters are real: The many-worlds interpretation implies that it’s possible that *all possible realities exist*. The keyword that’s being overlooked is “possible”. Gandalf is a wizard and Maiar (an angel, basically). He casts magic spells. That’s not possible. Even Bilbo Baggins, himself inherently non-magical, is impossible, because his existence is dependent on magical events. Just the early Bilbo at the start, living in his hole in the ground, still lives in a world with history forged by immortal elves, wizards, battles with Morgauth and balrogs and trolls that turn to actual stone in the presence of sunlight but not stars, and so on. A host of impossibilities which mean that Middle-Earth cannot exist and therefore neither can Bilbo Baggins, a character for whom “lives in Middle Earth” is an implicit and necessary property, exist. So no, there is no universe implied by the many-worlds interpretation wherein Harry Potter as described in J. K. Rowling’s books can go to the library and read a book about you, because the character lives in an impossible universe.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
again the thing is,you dont know whats possible and whats not possible.Possibility itself is indefinite Magic itself is a mysterious thing and you never know whether its real or not. There are lots of mysterious things in the world,and we only know 1% of our own universe.
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 Жыл бұрын
The many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics stays only within what is possible with the physical laws of the universe. For example there has to be conservation of mass. However there is no reason why this physical laws have to be true over any other possibility. There is no reason for another universe with laws that give rise to something that on the surface looks like magic is possible. Life appears to be magic if you don't know how it works, same with Gandalf.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 it depends,there are lots of things unknown rather than what we know. As someone said "what we know is a drop,what we dont know is ocean" we dont know if these physical laws are same in other universes or not.There could be infinite other laws too and we dont know half of the things in our own universe.There are lots of things beyond our science we know in our own universe,and one of them we call magic There are lots of possibilities without any limitations you can tell of and what we know always would be a drop Just because science cant prove it real dosent means it can prove it false
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 We know more than you think. I suggest you look at the mathematical universe.
@MosesFashina
@MosesFashina Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@cobinizer
@cobinizer 6 күн бұрын
I think the question is dumb. Simply define the word "fictional". So, do fictional characters exist in the real world? No. Do they live in our minds and hearts? Possibly.
@kaelell4697
@kaelell4697 Жыл бұрын
THE ONE PIECE, THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
@DiamondBlizzard
@DiamondBlizzard Жыл бұрын
Since this is a subject I teach upon.. The first simple basis, is everything has a source. Thus for, when someone has a dream for instance; of some invention they're pulling from specific source. Unless one is conceptualizing a new form within their mind, their is still basis for that framework involved. People don't understand the nature of reality, when they make real evil entities, those things actually exist, which is why the Bible says not make any graven images, but most people don't understand that cause they lack the proper understanding of how imagination actually works among other things, since they imagination has been tampered with in perspective. On top of those, trying get people to manifest things into this reality, which is why one of reasons you all do not have immortality, because of the knowlegde of Good and Evil is a gate way for both of those sources to come through; hence the disappearance of lumeria and so forth in the flood due to them something beings like the Old Ones; and so forth. This isn't a theory btw, but to the world it might sound foolish, but to God on the underhand if you know the truth of a matter. You can find the secret things that are hidden in the dark, and as things go on more will be unveiled, since I am here; such things are bound kick start regardless, especially with myself not sitting idle in matter of actuality entities. - Lord of Hosts.
@nolimits7495
@nolimits7495 Жыл бұрын
You mean the fictional character I met in a game, felt intense connection with, draw, got inspired from, learned to be more true to myself, feel unexplainable emotions in my heart and to love him dearly actually exists? ❤🥺 I wanna share something else too....There is someone who claimed that she had her fictional character always by her side since she was born and even saw glimpses of him in her surroundings before she was introduced to the very same fictional series in which her exact character appeared after she grew up. She was shocked to see him before being introduced to the series and claims to have glimpses of him, sometimes she is able to feel him and a few other fictional characters or toys coming to life or him embracing her. I wonder why she didn’t married the character by going to his world through the mirror portal he was calling her or why didn’t the character himself permanently settled in this real world just to be together forever? Like why play games if you and your fictional character can meet and touch each other? 😂
@nolimits7495
@nolimits7495 Жыл бұрын
I told her about my fictional character and she says he’s there with me but is too shy to appear. If our fictional characters can see us then why not join us here and spend time with us? Why they only keep observing us? If they love us too then why not erase the barrier separating us?
@DiamondBlizzard
@DiamondBlizzard Жыл бұрын
@@nolimits7495 Because you humans, a large majority of you humans are like monsters. Look at all the other wicked imaginations you humans have created? Yet everyone wants to go and see these things? Book of Essense says, how people's imagination is causing harm to the spirit realm. So, why would they come to realm, where humans are just monsters. On top of it, some of them, some character people envision represents the world they have come from, like Lightning from FF13 is Taylor Swift. Or Myself for Instance, but people wouldn't understand the bigger picture cause of fear. I could literal show picture of me with Chaos flowing from me, but people will be terrified in their own right
@DiamondBlizzard
@DiamondBlizzard Жыл бұрын
@@nolimits7495 The Anime: ReCreators is also another good representation of why
@manoramasingh190
@manoramasingh190 Жыл бұрын
@@nolimits7495 reallyyy?
@Ibis-of-Equilon
@Ibis-of-Equilon Жыл бұрын
chris chan would love this
@carlosescalantebaquero4759
@carlosescalantebaquero4759 Жыл бұрын
I know someone who believes that at least their attributes or characteristics are all real because no one could've come up with that idea.
@nonolimit1315
@nonolimit1315 Жыл бұрын
Terrific funny video. Very entertaining.
@sk8rmouse404
@sk8rmouse404 Жыл бұрын
*reads title* Would be nice.
@lsor3341
@lsor3341 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm....most interesting......
@ojas339
@ojas339 16 күн бұрын
Yes, they do. YES. THEY. DO. 😉😉
@jeffjeff9037
@jeffjeff9037 Жыл бұрын
Is this, or is this not straight up, the plot of The Neverending Story?
@fabiesebastian
@fabiesebastian Жыл бұрын
Tremendous.......
@michaelgomez867
@michaelgomez867 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@ShannonsChannel
@ShannonsChannel Жыл бұрын
Well done! But I do not believe fictional characters are real. We may perceive them as real while reading/watching, but they do not exist as people. They exist in our minds, the writer's mind. But we can not touch them. Kind of like Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny... they exist in our minds, but not in life. Even in a parallel universe, should one or more exist, there is no proof that a made-up character from this universe would exist there. That said, I do believe all fictional characters are based on real people...
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think authors definitely take inspiration from people in their real life. Jk Rowling based snape on her high school chemistry teacher for example! 😂
@ShannonsChannel
@ShannonsChannel Жыл бұрын
@@skytalksbooks8920 Absolutely! I know I do! 😈
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
its because we only consider real what we have seen in this very small world,we never could go into a parallel universe to confirm whether they are real or not. There is no actual proof of parallel universe in first place,so if parallel universes are real,then so is the possibility of fictional characters in other universes And there are probably infinite of these parallel universe
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 Жыл бұрын
​@@dragoncat5767There are reasons to believe they are real. It would be arbitrary for this universe with this specific physical laws to be the only real one over alternatives.
@anthony_pictures
@anthony_pictures Ай бұрын
Fictional Characters arent real here in this reality, but this reality isn't everything. Maybe imagination is the gateway to other realities/universes
@devlinmcguire7543
@devlinmcguire7543 Жыл бұрын
Well, then, uh... , here is the most over powered character ever depicted in the real world and fiction or otherwise 'general piece of communication.' The most over powered character in all fiction.... is Bob. "Bob" is a stick figure I just drew. He is how I choose to represent and refer to the representation of the concept of what I call "The Great Driver" being the ("one" or more if necessary to the theory) thing responsible for our irl world. It is the last answer to the *_'but why'_* game, given that the players are perfect omniscient players that can always progress the game. If the world is created by a biblical God, then that god's name, is Bob. If we are in a story, then at the top of our narrative-stack is an author who writes all stories, who themselves exist in some sort of world, made by Bob. If there isn't a world that the author occupies, then the author's name, is bob. If the are one, more, or fewer, natural facts of this and any other world that by their nature create the emergence of all things including my own life to observe it and all scientific/observable and unobservable principles... (quantum feilds, energy shifts, dimensions, exct. exct.) then this progenitor is described as "Bob". Bob is the ultimate and only driver of every single thing, no-matter what it may be. He/it has even written the fate of our universe so that he/it can manifest a concept to describe himself or itself, by implanting this very naturally occurring idea of "Bob-ness" into my head. In this way, Bob has created himself as a character/idea, as the compact prelude to a better understanding of our world with as little information to the greater understanding of it. Like describing a bad day that you've had to someone who's asked as "A Bad Day" instead of rehashing every event that makes it so. In this way, I have written an entity that is both fictional and fundamentally real. I think, therefore I am. But beyond me, there are thoughts. Bob is the one thinking these thoughts. If not. And there is a world of any size tethered to these thoughts, then the creator of the thoughts of the creator of the thoughts....... Is Bob. Whatever the hell "Bob" is. Not necessarily a living creature, no. But by it's very nature, it's only possible to describe it as a Bob. All this to say- I think my OC (DO NOT STEAL!!1!) could totally one shot your guy, hahaha!! necessarily No, but like, seriously though. It is true.
@xdudeawesome2769
@xdudeawesome2769 Жыл бұрын
They ARE capable of BECOMING real, but that's only because ALL things are possible with God, which is far beyond the point.
@ebugogo291
@ebugogo291 17 күн бұрын
Fellas is it gay to be straight???
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 Жыл бұрын
...Still no. Hehe. Sorry. First, the multiverse is a hypothesis, not a theory. A theory is something that explains what's already in data, or observed--that's not the case with the multiverse. Just because very smart and clever people believe in it, doesn't make it and less a hypothesis. I think you're confusing concept (agreed upon or not), imagination, influence and measurable reality. So with the United States, for example--the concept exists because Americans agree on it and act on that agreement, and the rest of us agree and associate the concept with the action. But take one of those micronations--the people who declare that their land is a sovereign nation. They believe in it--but if they stop paying taxes to the nation the land "actually" belongs to, or they commit a crime, the consequences for them will be the same as everyone else. That's because we don't agree with their claim, and they can't make us agree with it. But does a distinct entity such as the United States exist in reality? Of course not. It's just a concept that people agree on and act on; but those actions are still the decisions of the individuals that make them. The rest is a shared delusion. It's the same with Sherlock Holmes and other fictitious people--sure, our brains activate the same bits as if we had experienced the characters and action of a book, but that's just imagination and memory. We think coffee and we remember coffee. We use our empathy and our imagination to connect with the characters and even let them influence our real world actions--but that's our decision to do so, even if it doesn't feel like it. Feeling sad when Dobby dies doesn't mean someone actually died--because you can revisit an earlier book and there he is, alive. Reality doesn't let you rewind like that, even in our memories. But I get what you mean. I really do. But I would put it as, "are characters from fiction *important*?" rather than "real". Because things like justice, and countries, and Sherlock Holmes are important to us.
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
I do believe realistic fiction do exist or something largely similar to that,in our planet earth
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 how do you mean?
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@magnusgreel275 fiction which didn't break laws of physics and which could be possible in our world to some extent. But just didn't play out due to things went differently from the start We don't even know magic is real or not in our world,so magic might be real in our world we just don't know it,so Harry Potter or something like that most definitely exist in some universe. It might come under the possibility
@dragoncat5767
@dragoncat5767 Жыл бұрын
@@magnusgreel275 there might be other universes where these fictionns exist and all authors did is have a deja vu and wrote it
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoncat5767 well of course. There's an absolutely stellar, and frankly terrifying, alternate history story featuring the Cuban missile crisis going terribly wrong online somewhere. That doesn't really address anything I said though. And it doesn't mean that story is real somewhere unless they find actual evidence of the multiverse theory. Edit: didn't see the magic stuff. Yes, we know magic isn't real.
@ramosjake30
@ramosjake30 Жыл бұрын
125th
@skytalksbooks8920
@skytalksbooks8920 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing! I appreciate it ! 😊
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