Do Hasidic Jews hate dogs? | discussing myths

[@jeaniecohen2701]

I grew up with my grandparents ( born around turn of last century). They emphasized that one must feed our animals before ourselves.

[@olgagomez485]

Thank You Frieda. Very Informative 😊🙏🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@devdeckardCain]

Frieda, I would love to see more of him on your main channel. I loved listening to Pearl about what its like for females within the faith and am curious to hear more of the male perspective

[@mjacobm]

Very nice story. I live in a haredi neighborhood and I have a little dog always on a leash. Some of the kids ask if they can per her and I usually agree some are just so terrified it is obvious that they have zero exposure to animals. It is sad really.

[@martinelanglois3158]

I like listening to him a lot. Would like to see him more often. There is a parallel we can see here with dogs: we are often afraid of something we don't know enough about. He decided to learn about dogs. People should learn about other cultures different from their own, who look different, who act differently and interact with them. Maybe that would help make us better, make the world better. Thank you Frieda. ❤

[@gcolwill]

Interesting conversation. I have heard that another reason Orthodox Jews don't generally keep pets is that there may come a time when you might need to suddenly be on the move with only what you can carry, which means it will be necessary to leave behind pets, so better not to have them at all than to abandon them if/when the time comes that you suddenly have to move yet again.

[@cecilhayden585]

Love Mendel's stories

[@Zelde-M]

Thanks for having Reb MH address this topic. Shkoyakh!

[@vcrouch6041]

Thank you for the excellent video. I understand much better now. What a great storyteller he is, I could listen all day!

[@SignalHillHiker]

I know a couple of people born and raised in Canada but who still don't walk on bare earth (preferring concrete, pavement, etc.) because their parents came from countries with landmines. We learn many unspoken things from our parents, some of it is traumatic, some of it is just funny. There's the famous story of the woman who used to cut a quarter of her pot roast off before cooking, and when someone finally asked WTF are you doing? She said that's what my mother did, called her mother to ask why - mother's pot wasn't big enough for a full roast.

[@MLovesacoffee]

Beautiful video. I have a small dog. He always sits beside me in his bed on the floor when I'm learning a shiur online! Who knows, maybe he's learning halacha lemaasei!!

[@friedavizelclips]

omg so cute I want to pet him!

[@chayastoll1046]

Good Shabbos Frieda, once again a wonderful interview. I notice in our Crown Heights community many more familes are getting pet dogs . Personally we aren't afraid and am trying to teach some of our enikel not to be either

[@hvacw116]

Not sure if he mentioned, according to the Torah you can't sit down to eat a meal before feeding your pet

[@alphadog3384]

I have heard that as well. You feed your animals first.

[@mhpaneth]

Correct!

[@Maggies87]

Interesting story about the lost German Shepherd. It’s not logical for the owner to punish him for running away, upon the dog’s return. We should always praise dogs that come back to us!

[@Sharon181818]

Another excellent video. Shkoyach to you and Reb Paneth. Shana Tovah U’Metukah to you both and to everyone here. 🍎🍯

[@AsserYarafatso]

Rambam said don't own dogs as pets but okay to own working dogs

[@StacyMarie-Texas]

This was very educational. I can see how dogs were seen as fear. I couldn’t help but giggle when he told the story about this German Shepard. I’m naturally afraid of dogs as well even though I own one, don’t ask me why but there’s fear when I see one loose no matter the size.

[@Sammythatjewishnerd]

My grandmother is also scared of German Shepherds for this very reason. The only German Shepherd that I've ever seen her willingly interact with is my aunt's dog Scout, who's also part Lab

[@jaysantos8429]

I love animals. I believe a lot of people have pets for company and comfort. However, having a pet, such as a dog, is a huge responsibility both as a time investment and financially. I think Hasidic Jews have big families, and other priorities, and that’s totally ok.

[@k.k.5046]

-Dogs and Cats are the best friends in the families today- Cats and Dogs are the best friends in the families today

[@donnahibbard1774]

Frieda…birds…curse? No you are a blessing, you shine with kindness, wisdom and grace. We are blessed to know you.

[@ericah6546]

I love the animal teachings in Torah and Judaism. I never knew of that. I have always been very very sensitive to how animals and pets are treated.

[@steve3131]

Some European countries ban shehita, usually on the pretext that banning it is "humane". Ironically, Norway was one of the first in 1929. Norway was (and I believe may still be) a whaling nation. So they think shehita is "cruel" but harpooning a whale isn't? I knew a Holocaust survivor who loved dogs because she owed her survival to them. She was in a labor camp and was tipped off by the wife of the commandant that the camp was about to be liquidated. The wife said something to the effect, "This probably won't work, but there's a way out" Predictably, the Nazis sent dogs out to search for the missing prisoners. She and her sister hid in a field under a green blanket that acted as camouflage. The dogs saw them but miraculously didn't bark or uncover them. She lived to be 98.

[@abcabcboy]

I remember once in Israel I saw haredi walking down the road, and a secular guy was outside walking his dog. The Haredi seemed completely panicked, and ran across the street. Seemed so weird, the dog being on a leash and all.

[@abcabcboy]

But being afraid of dogs is actually normal in the area where Judaism evolved. I know people from Afghanistan, and they are afraid of dogs, and think that the Western habit of keeping them as part of the family is strange.

[@joemoore9066]

I really enjoyed this video ! I would have to think twice about a German Shepherd coming to me, not knowing the dog. My situation is different, I live in WI, down a dead end road and have 40 acres. I have a dog, very small. Since now living alone, with 4 doors to my house. I agree with him on the chickens.

[@grasmereguy5116]

My late father, a lawyer, had many Satmar clients and friends. We weren't Orthodox, but somewhere between pretty traditional Conservative and very modern Orthodox. Anyway, we had a sukkah and his Satmar friends would stop by our sukkah for Noah after enjoying the parks here on Staten Island during Chol ha Mo'ed Sukkot. We also had a smallish doggie. The dog knew there was food and new people in the sukkah and came to check out the visitors. I'll never forget the shrieks of terror from the children and the mother at this harmless, friendly little cocker spaniel/poodle mix (cockapoo) coming to say hello and schnor for some snacks. "Oy, Mommy, Tatty, ah hindt, ah hindt! Ikh hob moireh!!" (I believe I told you this story on Quora long ago.)

[@hannahaguirre2972]

Many say it’s generational trauma. I always had a fear of dogs until recently. I realized that what I don’t like is that I don’t want to be slobbered on or I don’t want dog fur shedding all over me. Some of my immediate family members have dogs . I developed a bond with one of them . We walk together , just me and the dog. I like to have him next to me but I don’t like when he licks me or touches me.

[@ericah6546]

I have many Jewish friends and many have dogs but I've noticed most have little dogs. My gentile friends are more likely to have big dogs. I think it's cultural. And the German Shepard thing is true. They are a very sweet breed as a pet but trauma can make people of certain generations not want to deal with reminders.

[@mjc63]

Great subject Frieda! It may have been the cat in the Anne Frank book or the movie, but when I was about 10 I was convinced that Cats were preferred over dogs as Jewish pets! I even developed a theory that the Jews survived being wiped out by Bubonic Plague because we had cats, cats killed rats, and rats had the fleas that carried the plague! No I did not grow up to be a doctor or research scientist!!! Cheers, Michael Albuquerque NM USA

[@yuribliman8999]

Funny, that's how meine bubbe did it. She bought a chicken on the market, brought it home did all this stuff, and then took it to the shochet, and again after that she gave the chicken to our neighbors. I was shocked to know that during the Soviet rule in the '70s-'80s, there was kinda underground shochet in the Ukrainian town that wasn't even predominantly Jewish. At that time eating matzah was a crime. Eventually, they allowed matzah at the end of the '80s, but the fear remained until the collapse of the USSR. I was a little kid. I didn't get it, nobody told me what it was for.

[@JohnHarvey_UK]

For comparative religion purposes: In Islam, the saliva of dogs and wet dogs invalidate one's ritual impurity so one would need to perform wudu again before praying. Wudu is more comparable to negal wasser, there's something more akin to mikveh which is called ghusl (performed alone at home). Also in Islam, angels don't enter houses where a dog is present.

[@chasidance]

"Jacobs sent sheeps and cows and whatever and also dogs." Now let's look at the bible. 32:15 - 16 "Two hundred she goats and twenty he goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams, Thirty nursing camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, twenty she donkeys and ten he donkeys." Who ate the dogs???

[@ariebrons7976]

11:56 the KSA forbids wing clipping. (Citation needed)

[@marianasantos1336]

Rabbits are excellent pets. They don't like to nest by their waste and they just in general prefer a clean and hygienic environment so you can litter train them very easily. The are from the rodent family so they do like to chew but they are also very smart so if you work with them a bit by firmly saying, "NO!" and then giving them a time out to their cage when you catch them chewing on your woodwork or cables.. they learn. They're very social and very calm so if you have children, maybe they are a little upset with the things that make a child upset, they can sit quietly with their bunny and softly stroke the fur, it will help to calm them and settle their feelings. We used to settle our rabbit in her cage at night because she used to jump in the bed if we left her out and it's a little startling to wake up in the night to find a rabbit sitting next to your head or on your chest. Our rabbit, we used to let her run around the house all day, she ate whatever we gave her and ran in and out of her cage when she needed to drink. Very low maintenance and a very beautiful experience with having a pet.

[@ivriyah8456]

No idea what he’s talking about regarding birds. I’m yeshivish, grew up that way, and had a bird… and I was far from the only one!

[@chayastoll1046]

Have a sweet peaceful Shabbos❤

[@chayastoll1046]

Seth too

[@markgordon5387]

Orthodox Jews aren't against dogs. My grandfather had a dog growing up. His father got "Buster" for him. The men in the family were Cohanim. Several generations were Chazzanim as well.

[@michaelwittkopp3379]

Well...as you can see from my avatar photo, that's my dog... my pride and joy. _(Not that I treat her like a human child. She's a dog, and I treat her like a dog.)_ She is though with me; almost 24/7, 365 days a year. We are bonded. A form of symbiotic pair. But also, I grew up country, on farms and ranches. Dogs, cats, horses, mules, donkeys, cows, sheep, chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, only goats have I not had much contact with. Dealing with them is second nature for me. I don't think about it, I just act and react...normally. Growing up, I could have as many as 10 or 20 animals, that when I went outside, came running to me, wanting my attention. _(I've come in contact with police dogs, talked with them, had them lick my hand. Shocking their officers, who I had to calm down, telling them that I'm special and their dog knows it. For them, police officers, a trainer person is special, and unique. And does not break the bond between officer and dog.)_ And that's the thing with most domesticated animals. They want to receive love, care, and affection from us humans. We *_are_* special to them. We have that gift, that commandment from Hashem, to be so. It's in those animal's DNA. It's in our DNA. There is also in wild animals a certain amount of awareness of this. But don't expect it. It's different. And even with domestic animals, there's the factors of training or learned experiences that need to be taken into consideration. It's fluid. Tiny body language signals can destroy a relationship, before it even starts. So I had to chuckle at this video. There's this elephant in the room. The days when there were Yiddish farmers in the Pale are long gone. Yiddish culture, Hasidic culture, is city culture. You have to _"almost"_ go to Israel to find Jewish farmers anymore, Jewish country folk. Yiddishkeit has become Citykeit. And even when the Yid goes to the country, he takes the city with him. And to us country folk, city folk stick out like a sore thumb. We can see you a mile away. And if we can see you from a mile away, then animals can see you from 10 miles away. Body language is their *_most important_* form of communication. And it's not just tail wagging. It's a hundred other signals together; that have meaning. _(Note: When you "baby talk" to a dog, you force your body language to conform to what and how you are speaking. It's not what or how your speaking that they understand, it's your body language; that is speaking volumes to that dog.)_ So I don't see Judaism or Yiddishkeit having that much to do with Hasidic not having pets. You have simply become city folk. No different than other city folk. City folk don't have that connection to animals that country folk have. And for country folk, not having any animals is like Hasidic not having any children.

[@sarahledoux3786]

Being Jewish and I have 4 dogs 😊but when you are Hasidic you have too many children and no time, room or time for a dog !

[@friedavizelclips]

wow bless your heart!

[@jimdeane3667]

Like I mentioned to you previously, the Lubavitcher Rebbe owned a dog and kept it chained on President Street in Crown Heights. In terms of Torah, the general description of dogs is that they are described as an animal that is always hungry. If you present them with anything that is edible, they will eat it. If you think about this practically, I am sure that you have seen at least once a dog actually eating excrement! In the Talmud, it uses dogs as the measure of what is considered actual food. Anything which a dog will reject, is not considered edible food! With all this, it is worth noting the name given in the Talmud to the Father-in-Law of Rabbi Akiva. He was called “Kalbah Sabuah”, which means a satiated dog. This means that the dog, which is by its nature is always hungry, is somehow satisfied! What that means in relation to Rabbi Akiva is worth reflection. That Kalbah Sabuah hated and mistreated his Son-in-Law until he became the leader of his generation and the leading Torah scholar of his generation.

[@mweiss505]

I think the rebbe got the dog as a security for ppl who wanted to attack him after they once attacked his house.

[@MrGavriel1982]

Just go back to Yetziat Mitzraim where Dogs accompanied the Jews to leave Mitraim and received a special Bracha which is why there hebrew name is Kelev, means like the heart. This is another example of eastern European repression taking another stab at the heart of Jews and causing mental trauma for vulnerable groups like the Chassidim.

[@angelina6543]

What repression?

[@sshhlisten]

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[@mweiss505]

There מדרשים talking about how loyal dogs are to their owners, but it's definitely not something othordox jews owned.

[@sshhlisten]

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[@shmulyitzkowitz6479]

I’m chasidic and I LOVE DOGS!!! HOT DOGS!

[@friedavizelclips]

ha ha

[@ttee6990]

Oops sorry. I ment hersh.

[@sshhlisten]

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[@arigross9864]

Sounds like you guys would be a good couple😊

[@sshhlisten]

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[@ariebrons7976]

It's kind of a Middle Eastern thing. Dogs are seen as impure savage beasts. But the word "כלב" can also mean "hart-like". More research needed.

[@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic]

😮😮 i ve never thought about this

[@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic]

However shouldn't have the M after the kof? Like kmo kelev

[@ariebrons7976]

@@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic Maybe, but the word "כמו" is rarely ever used. It's only used to emphasise a comparrison. "כמו" and "כ" can mostly be used interchangeably

[@lm7338]

@@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic the mem is only when the word doesnt act like a prefix. Then its just kaf

[@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic]

@@lm7338 Aa gadol ok. Ani mitstaer aval letzari no medaber ivrit shutefet.

[@GaryJackson-q7w]

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[@ariebrons7976]

I don't like dogs, Why; Do you know who's sons they are?

[@donnahibbard1774]

Matthew 15: 26-28 ❤

[@ariebrons7976]

@@donnahibbard1774 Mishnah Berakhot chapter 3 => Sanhedrin's forbidden Baraita: Jesus is a liar and his heresy is a lie.

[@donnahibbard1774]

@@ariebrons7976 Peace be with you.

[@ariebrons7976]

@@donnahibbard1774 Book of beliefs: on God's nature treatise 3: "What I find even less believeable is the Christian doctrine of the trinity".

[@donnahibbard1774]

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[@heshyk4043]

Chasidishe people dont have to apologize for our chasidic beliefs and customs! Because Freida has not matured and is still angry at the community that hurt her nebech ego! Yes we don't have pets we are different than the nations and are not embarassed of it.

[@ttee6990]

Mendel Hershey speaking with a woman…….about dogs

[@venividivici1990]

One thing is for sure. These people are not the jews from the Bible.

[@AsserYarafatso]

Frieda's mother had birds, birds are a curse on the house, Frieda went otd. A coincidence or a curse?

[@donnahibbard1774]

Your words hurt my soul.

[@jimdeane3667]

Your comment is an unsourced, blanket statement against all birds and all Jewish homes. Rabbeinu Tam kept birds (falcons) and hunted with them! Was his house cursed?! You approach Tishrei writing hurtful and insulting comments about the hostess, a good and upright Jewish woman?! You are clearly no expert on Jewish practice, whose opinion should be disregarded.

[@JohnHarvey_UK]

Go and prepare for Shabbos instead of being mean.

[@chayastoll1046]

Not nice to say that at all

[@grasmereguy5116]

​@@donnahibbard1774I took it as a joke

[@kerder8660]

Kinky Friedeman.. Hehehe had charity or so for dogs.. Hehehe just saying.. At some point Texas politician..

[@kerder8660]

Funny.. Hehehe don't wanna comment on it more than that.. Hehehe just saying.. I have sister & she's more open minded.. Nothing to add to Rabbi statement..