Do I get sick of doing permaculture? What do my neighbors think? Q&A While Planting Seeds

[@mamaknitte_r]

"I would rather spend my life hours doing what I'm doing." So, so much respect for this

[@dahlia_day]

I appreciate you talking about the economics of permaculture and how money can be a limitation. A lot of people talk about how cheap it is, because you can acquire free materials like chip drop, acquire plants via propagation, repurpose things, source supplies in your neighborhood, etc. But all those things take a lot of time and energy, and many of us work full-time jobs and don't have that time and energy. I am incorporating permaculture principles into my garden, but it is a slow process. Buying trees and fruit bushes get pricy. Fixing crappy clay soil takes a lot of time and materials. Even finding decent trellises can be expensive (or difficult if you're trying to repurpose). I also think that some influencers and proponents make permaculture seem unfeasible and unattainable for the average person when they don't acknowledge the economic and time costs. it's okay to go slow, to plant a couple trees a year and slowly propagate fruit bushes, to slowly improve the soil, and source things when the opportunity pops up. In fact, building up slowly allows you to see how different elements of the garden develop and work to together, and then course correct or be more thoughtful about creating spaces that are truly self sustaining. tl;dr: Permaculture is a long game, not a short sprint.

[@RedScareClair]

Exactly right. I wish I was in a position to also have a lot of land as my forever spot so I could slowly be planting trees and things. For how where we are will have to do

[@imperfectlypermaculture]

I really connected with what you said about getting tired around the time your garden is getting tired. In the winter I am full of hopes and dreams and spring I’m ready to go. In summer I am excited by all the growth and change. But in the fall I start to sputter out a bit… Also, as someone from Maine, I agree that Fedco is awesome. Making my Fedco wishlists is one of my favorite hobbies.

[@dahlia_day]

Me too. A lot of gardeners on KZbin have videos about season extension and growing over the winter. That's cool if someone wants to do it. Personally, I like the winter break from gardening work, which can be intense sometimes. I don't want to be outside in the cold. I also like having a dormant period to rethink my gardening strategies and plan the next year's work.

[@marykappesser5145]

I love gardening in April and May in SW Ohio, days are not too hot, and the mosquitos are not around yet. I was glad to hear you say you get tired of the garden and the work of it. I am like that too. Come October- November, I want to put it to bed. By the way, you look great. Healthy, and energetic. Glad you have recovered so well.

[@pamelanred5053]

On the discussion about needing to be wealthy to grow an organic gardening. I enjoy watching Robbie and Gary Gardening channel. Robbie has many low cost gardening ideas.

[@tanyadraper7588]

I bought a few mesh garbage cans at the dollar store and use them as a cloche when I start my squash

[@Hayley-sl9lm]

I really appreciate your comment about sticking it out. I read this gross letter to editor in the Oregonian a couple of weeks ago, where someone was all whinging about the "downfall" of Portland, and how they how they're so lucky that they have enough money to leave... While I know it's been rough, I kind of felt like -- good riddance to that person? A lot of people were happy enough to passively benefit from their property becoming worth more and more, while a lot of lower income folks were priced out of their hometown -- but now I feel like maybe the silver lining of this period of upheaval is that maybe some of the folks who really care about their community might be able to slip through into getting a property or a job or some other opportunity left behind by the mobile rich.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

I go through this in the late fall. I actually enjoy the winters a little more now. I think its because I work so hard all season, especially lately, with such a focus adding native wildlife attracting plants. It's a lot of research, then easter egg hunting in the wiild, then foraging seed in the fall to spread. It's exhausting but rewarding. Every year my property gets better, as I add Asters, Echinacea, Erigeron, Yarrow, Soapwart, Wild Lettuce, Goldenrod, Gentian, wild geraniums, etc. It's just tiring! 😅😅😅

[@byfaithindustries4189]

I love your kerchief scarf! I knitted myself a similar one back in the winter and it has turned out to be a favorite warm accessory. I live in a fairly mild climate, so big, cozy knitwear isn’t really practical-even if I like the way it looks! But the kerchief scarf is perfect! 😊

[@themistocles1991]

Honestly, one of the reasons I love guerilla gardening so much (I was crushed when I learned sunchokes aren't suitable for my hardiness zone) is because it doesn't require you to have your own yard to work in. Although it might require legal fees...

[@maryannedraper6959]

Thanks!

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

Thank you!

[@sergio34410]

Angela I don’t have a question, but you are such a beautiful person with a voice to match that I enjoy listening to you even if you’re talking about how to make water ripples!adios Bella !

[@RedScareClair]

I absolutely loved your money/community section. It speaks to my soul as these are the things that are my daily thoughts and challenges. On the one hand I know I can go back to beside nursing and probably find a weekend gig. Nurse pay has gone up because of the pandemic so it would go a long way. However, going back to work may relieve financial pressure but it adds different strains. That means my husband has to be with our toddler which means he doesn't get time for himself or the many, many projects he takes on around the house. It also obviously adds to my already full load and means I never get a break either. My kid was born at 24 weeks so making sure she gets lots of family time, individual time, and stimulation is a big deal for us and she just wouldn't get that at day care. So why pay for day care? All of this plus things like school violence makes us want to run away. I follow someone that sold everything and bought a plot of land in rural Panama and built a cob home. That sounds more and more amazing to me every day. But then I think about all of the communities that can't sell their home and run away and it makes me want to stay and fight. End stage capitalism is a hard place to be.

[@joannewolfe5688]

As a former (native) Oregonian I was surprised to hear that you don't use Territorial Seed Co; maybe they're not what they used to be. I'm in Appalachia now, in the Blue Ridge, and I love it here. Although I miss the Oregon Coast, I would not move back to Oregon for anything; it's not the state I grew up in, and Portland has totally gone to hell (so sad). While I respect your desire to make the place you live better, sometimes overwhelming circumstances beyond one's control make it prudent to vacate. I'm starting a new food forest (as of last year) and you are right: cost is a big deal. I have a limited income, so must scrounge for plants that I can divide to make more plants later on. Lots of things started from seeds. The trees are the main expense. Luckily, as in the PNW, there are many cool nurseries here and occasionally one can find real bargains. Cost of living here in general is probably half (or less) what it is in the PNW, and quality of life is superb. I'm enjoying watching your channel to see how you fit so much into such a small space. I have only 1/2 acre, so always interested in tips for companion planting and guilds.

[@WynterDragon]

Sweet Meat is also my favorite winter squash! Unfortunately they didn't do great last year, but i still have 3 pumpkins from a volunteer sitting in my back hallway. They are such a great food source!

[@joycemiller7908]

My favorite yard work weather, too! I try to get as much morning glory & blackberry (from a bad compost purchase...don't go with the least expensive) out of the yard as I can because once it goes over 72°, I'm unlikely to.

[@jordang7479]

I watched the griffty video too! I love Maggie's videos

[@sjsmith9637]

Do you think you could do a walk through of what veggies are growing for you now? I planted kale 9 weeks ago and its still the size of my thumb nail. I know it's been a cold spring but I'm at a loss....

[@foxgloved8922]

I had kales i planted last spring stay tiny all year and then finally took off with the spring rains this year, in my climate they’re perennial I guess

[@sjsmith9637]

@@foxgloved8922 I hope they'll take off soon I'm afraid they're stunted or my soil from Mt. Scott is bad in some way. But I don't want to be that tin foil hat person claiming my dirt is bad because I'm not a great gardener...

[@foxgloved8922]

@@sjsmith9637 since kale is so cold hardy i doubt it’s the temperature for you. How much light do they get? Have you added compost recently? Watering?

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

It has been very cold, and the cold soil temperatures have really stunted anything that’s been put in the ground the last several weeks. All of my brassicas are very very small. Some only have one side of tree leaves - a little bit of warmer weather and they will catch up.

[@sjsmith9637]

@@foxgloved8922 I made mounded beds in my front yard which is as much sun as I get anywhere. It's a classic SE house with next to no trees out front and the house is on the west side of the front yard. I've been watering in fish emulsion in case it is just really depleted soil but it was sold as stuff to plant right into. Would it be better to replant? I feel like it's going to be too hot for cold weather stuff in a month and I haven't gotten a single thing to eat from this garden.

[@deborahcoyle7612]

Loved this Q&A video. I’ve started buying from Fedco on your recommendation. In fact, my sweet potato slips should be arriving soon. Thanks for the inspiration, Angela!

[@sarahcornell6548]

Ha! "All the way out in Maine" = local to me. Love from NH! :)

[@Rox_and_Fields]

I would be interested to hear about any ferments you do to preserve the harvest, if any? Perhaps a video about one, if you do, or ones that you hope to do?

[@melissamybubbles6139]

I've never successfully grown vegetables. Maybe I'll do that someday, but so far my main goal is to fix what the landscaper did. I'd like to have more pollinator friendly plants.

[@tammiehaley6976]

Interesting. My green zebra tomatoes did really well last year here in the west hills at 850ft. They were amazing in flavor and texture. Really shows how different mini climates can effect the plants.

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

Oh I love green zebra!! A great salad tomato! Red zebra was an absolute dud for us.

[@permiebird937]

I'm curious how you plan to make a rocket stove out of a regular kitchen stove. I watch a lot of "village cooking" vlogs from Eastern European and the Caucuses channels, and they have all sorts of wonderful outdoor cooking tools that make outdoor cooking easier, including rocket stoves built in metal buckets. I will be interested to see what you come up with. What I do for baking outside in the summer is I have a plug in roaster oven that I found in a free pile. It works great for baking when it's too hot to run the oven indoors.

[@kastenolsen9577]

Squash, Garbanzo Beans, and Lentils are our for me. Had to much in the past.

[@melissamybubbles6139]

I'm not ready to start my garden when it's time to start ordering plants in late winter. In Colorado it's still winter when it's already spring in specialist nurseries elsewhere.

[@tthappyrock368]

Yesterday and today are my favorite gardening weather days: cloudy yet comfortable temperature. I used to relish sunny days but now find I can be more productive in this weather! I'm behind getting plants started myself. I've been working on putting in pathways and eradicating Himalyan blackberries. It's beginning to take shape!

[@elainep.6887]

I am so thankful that I have come across your channel. Since I'm new and very much learning it is nice to see stuff like persimmon for example growing in your garden because then I know it will grow in mine. Thanks for all the information

[@jupe2369]

Thanks for this video, I enjoyed it a lot. However I was wondering why you don't soak the seeds ahead of sowing? Gives a headstart.

[@thetinygarden_]

Marketmore is my fav cucumber 🫶🙌

[@onesky1destiny]

Can you make a playlist with recipes and preserving of your different foods?

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

Yes! I will work on that. :)

[@amandapretti2185]

I've heard great things about Sibley squash! I haven't grown them yet, but I considered it since they are supposed to be excellent keepers and folks say their taste actually peaks after some storage time (like, January+). I always love congratulating my past-self for good decisions that I'd since forgotten about, so maybe past-Angela was just being wise about a winter squash rotation plan?!

[@TrishHalterman]

So the Naked Bear was new to you last year, right? I take it, that it went well?

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

Yes! I got a huge harvest and we had them in granola! Very good variety!

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

You can grow apricots with tons of fungicides and sprays.... That's part of my issue in learning to grow where I am. I want to grow cabbage plants. Other people do. But I do all natural techniques. They use artificial fertilizers, pesticides, etc. No one can tell me what I can grow here with all natural techniques.

[@joannewolfe5688]

If you cover your cabbage (and all other brassicas (like broc and cauliflower) with floating row covers you will not have cabbage worms. They come from eggs laid by the cabbage butterfly (moth?), and if she can't get to the plants, she can't lay her eggs. For other pests (aphids or potato beetles) try a spray made from a little shaved ivory soap and water. Plants love it, and insects do not.

[@spoonsnaper]

MaggieMaefish shout-out 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💯

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

I don’t know how I haven’t stumbled upon her before. I am quite enjoying her content! KZbin algorithm for the win this time!!

[@amyjones2490]

No place is cheap any more. Even rural areas cost a lot and land is being bought up by mega farmers.

[@flowerpixel]

Okay I have to watch the grifter self-sufficiency KZbinr video. I've thought the same thing