Do I REGRET selling the BMW GS yet? Aprilia Tuareg 660

[@matgee8892]

It was very kind of you to help those gentlemen steal that trailer.

[@btgmoto]

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[@rjsalameh]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mdragon99]

snorked my morning joint :)

[@jensnoeske]

😂😂😂

[@btgmoto]

🍍 < Your prize for best comment!

[@Peterv832]

Really appreciate your content. Was on the hunt for a gs1250. Long story short, i picked up a tuareg 660 a few days ago. Keep up the great work.

[@btgmoto]

Thanks, will do! Congrats on the new bike!

[@brianrundle9219]

I’ve had a1250GS and I’m contemplating the Aprilia but just not sure about wind protection on the motorways!

[@Peterv832]

@@brianrundle9219 so this is probably subjective. Im 6 feet tall. Have a Puig touring screen with an extension and have no major issues even at speeds of 85-90mph. The stock screen was terrible for me. Hope this helps

[@brianrundle9219]

@@Peterv832 I does help thank you Peter

[@Kai-ze2rb]

I have the Karoo 4 on the Tuareg and they are great. Windscreen was an issue too. Bought the IRS from Italy, standard height but wider towards the bottom. Made a big difference, no more turbulence and on longer trips the upper body and legs are wind protected. Factory Hand guards are rubbish too. Dropped the bike on the first ride off road, had to turn it around whilst still on the ground. Handguard broke, so did the brake leaver. Was a fun ride home... Got Acerbis - all good now. Great videos BTW 😁

[@btgmoto]

Thanks! I'd love to get some better handguards too

[@user-iv70-x2b]

I have had Dunlop Trailmax Raid tyres fitted to my little BMW G310GS and found them to be great in all conditions.

[@Dario-CTCC]

Dunlop TrailMax Raid, Heidenau K60 Ranger, Tusk 2Track from Rocky Mountain ATV: I am personally running these currently; off-road is exceptional and on road is quite good, MOTOZ TIRES are, in my opinion, the best adv tires. They make a DUAL VENTURE front tire that can be reversed. You can choose between the Tractionator Adventure Tire or the Tractionator Rallz tire. The later being the more aggressive off-road rear tire.

[@majorlee1]

I have the Dunlop raid on my GS. I like them although I did get better traction with motoz in softer situations. The raid is surprisingly good on the road. I enjoy your vids man keep em coming.

[@btgmoto]

The raids do look good right now

[@caramoto2868]

I have the tuareg too, 14000km. I like it a lot too. But if I have to be neat picky, I’d say : - wind protection ; depending on your height, you may need a taller windscreen or a deflector (deflector in my case for 175cm) - seat confort ; it’s good, but after a long day, my ass starts to hurt. I think I’ll be looking for a confort seat (or accessory that will do that job) - good suspension but you need to set them up properly (harder imho). I love the sound too, but I’m thinking of changing the exhaust (while keeping the cata because I don’t want to bother people). I have the ax41 tires. They are really good on road. Off-road they perform quite good too for 50/50 tires. I do more road that off-road, so I might change tires for something a little more road oriented while being off-road ready. The stock tires (rally STR) were really good imo, but I want to try something else. Cheers.

[@btgmoto]

- screen, I changed to a tall one, then changed back again because I hate looking through it at the trail or the road - seat, I understand! - suspension, I've not had any problems at all. Very adjustable, can work on road and off road at my speeds (so far!)

[@RedRupert64]

I've found the STR tyres to be pretty awful off-road but pretty good on-road. It's odd because they look as if they'll be decent off-road. The lateral grip seems to be the problem, which makes sense when you study the tread. I'd be tempted to try the Dunlop Trailmax Raids.

[@btgmoto]

Yep, they're on the list!

[@TheJamie2405]

Be interested to hear about the Trailmax Raids, facing the same predicament with my DDX. The Pirellis are just about on ok the gravel, but sheer luck is getting me through the rest of the off road 😅

[@btgmoto]

Exactly my feelings on the STR too! It's gonna be trailmax raids or Karoo 4s I reckon

[@nockianlifter661]

Enjoying the first few rides on my Tuono 660 Factory. Love that engine.

[@btgmoto]

It's a great little motor. Reminds me of a V-twin

[@nockianlifter661]

@@btgmoto part of the attraction as I’m a huge fan of v twins having owned 4 of them.

[@JIMWSMITH]

My new favourite channel 😃

[@btgmoto]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Jumpingplayer]

nice interaction with the guys in the forest, hope your kitty is ok? You're makingn me look at the Tuareg instead of the Ténéré.... Gute Fahrt Brudi!

[@btgmoto]

All good, thanks for asking!

[@hailwood900]

Loved the scenery! We lived in Luxembourg for five yrs, late 90's. Great part of the world. Yup, tires are trickiest decisions...

[@btgmoto]

Eifel, Ardennes, all great, in my opinion.

[@pont0n]

I have tuareg 660, I used Karoos 4 last season ,they are great tires, you are not sacrificing a lot of peg-scraping ability with them!

[@btgmoto]

Thanks for the recommendation and the sub!

[@JimGoryeb]

Also, check out Bridgestone AX41 tires. Great on road AND off.

[@btgmoto]

Thanks, will do!

[@Adameftube]

Any update on reliability? It's the question everyone's asking. I've been tempted by these but a few stories have made me question if I want to jeapordise the rare trips that I get away.

[@mdragon99]

I've had the Karoo 4 on my Tiger GT Explorer for about 4000km. Vancouver Island is all mountains and coastal twisties. Other than some weird dog-tracking in corners when they were new the tires have been great. Still have about 1/2 the tread left on the rear which surprises me as I'm usually a bit heavy handed and the Tiger is not light.

[@btgmoto]

That's great to hear! It's really between these and the Dunlops. Also, thanks for the sub!

[@evveeess925]

Can't see if you have posted anything further about your tyre choice but on the similar XL750 I have tried Bridgestone AX 41 ( good and predictable on and excellent off road ) and more recently Dunlop Trailmax Raid ( excellent road and surprisingly good off road). If you like the Pirelli STR on road but not off the TrailMax Raid might be the best pick as a perfect compromise tyre. The AX41 provides a little bit more bite off road and is very feelsome on road but you find you might get a bit too much traction control intervention on road in the wet. The Raids drive out of corners better

[@RashadUjaimi]

Good informative video, thanks

[@Angry-Lynx]

if you dont want to sacrifica "peg scraping" ability, front K60 ranger highly recommend, better in dirt than scorpion str for sure, grip on road like road tires

[@btgmoto]

I already tried K60 Rangers on my GS... Definitely not a road tyre. No feeling, lots of wobble.

[@mmazzara2329]

Mitas e07! Very good on my GS. Thinking of switching to a Tuareg 660 also.

[@btgmoto]

Already tried them, want to try something new... definitely test ride the Tuareg

[@nickrider5220]

I've ridden in Germany a couple of times, some of the roads and scenery are second to none. Peru, now that's exotic !

[@btgmoto]

Yep, it looks amazing, not sure what to expect

[@ralphfoley4827]

For gravel contintal TKC 70 Rocks rear TKC 80 on the front.

[@btgmoto]

Tried both, really want to try something new

[@lastWouldBeFirst]

Try Bridgestone AX41 cross. Very good on and off-road. Not to put on heavy heavy adventure bike

[@stephanematis]

Love the shortcut!

[@btgmoto]

Me too! 🤣

[@thefika]

Great video. The motor is not restricted though. Its re-tuned for more low down torque and less top end

[@j0rss]

the Karoo 4 is a great tire, but it doesn't last at all. Mine was completely disintegrating at 2000 miles, under my Tuareg. It's a soft compound, so if having fun and sliding around on gravel, it gets eaten quick.

[@scottc3]

Metzeler Karoo 3 or 4. Great 50/50 tyre. Or Michelin Tracker if you want more off road capability but still road legal.

[@btgmoto]

Trackers are cool, but I don't want to be tip-toeing around corners on dry tarmac

[@rossevans7646]

Did you have any issues fitting the hot grips. The dealer said I couldn’t fit them to a tuono 660 as it would cause a ecu fault

[@btgmoto]

No problems at all. I smell dealer BS, he's trying to sell you the Aprilia option

[@rossevans7646]

@@btgmoto I thought that could have been the case

[@macavenco]

i know you didn't mentioned these ones but I read on a Tuareg group about the Bridgestone AX41 and how they performed well also in the road, but not from personal experience.

[@btgmoto]

They're on the list, but not so high up!

[@Trails07]

I have Tuareg for 14 months / 10500km and still no problem. Karoo4 recommended as a 50/50

[@btgmoto]

Great to hear! Thanks!

[@bencheetham2673]

Bridgestone Ax41 ‘s Put some on my 660 for pyrenees TET, great on the loose stuff, and really really great still in the Tarmac col’s - chasing sports bikes on it 😎 Probably won’t last like the Pirelli’s but then the karoos will be the same

[@btgmoto]

That's great to hear! Will look them up

[@DLoh2o1]

Really enjoying my Tuareg. What exhaust are you running? (It sure doesn’t sound like my stock exhaust). Wheelies, I get a motor hesitation when I do them depending on the riding mode. What mode works best for you and are you shutting off traction control as well? Appreciate any feedback, I love to wheelie around my buddies with their heavy bikes

[@btgmoto]

Yeah I set traction to off in off-road mode. Anything over 1 on ATC and it stumbles hard when you try and wheelie!

[@btgmoto]

It's a totally stock exhaust, I forgot to say, sorry!

[@westwater73]

Induction racket.

[@BiglumpADV]

I run TKC 70's and the rear is the 'Rocks' version. Good tyres it must be said, though they're not for mud plugging.

[@btgmoto]

Not tried the 'rocks' version, but it's on my list

[@johna6968]

The wheelie was worthy of a like 👍

[@btgmoto]

Ah, I don't think so, but thanks! :D

[@RedRupert64]

I'd quite like one of those Aprilias, but went for the KTM 890AR as the dealer here in Latvia is better. If the KTM lets me down, I'll be tempted to go the reliable route (Honda Transalp). I've had a pretty good experience with KTMs - my 2004 950A has over 225k kms on it, and is twenty years old now. It's reliable and in great condition.

[@btgmoto]

The dealer network is a massive factor for lots of customers, and can trump prices or models specs for sure. No point buying a bike you can't service or repair!

[@wpc692]

Hi Dale @btgmoto, would you suggest the Tuareg as first bike? I have a full licence but just a Vespa GTS 300, I'm liking the idea of having a bike to go very slow :D Weekend trips, some light off-road..

[@btgmoto]

I'd say it's a great first bike. Really easy to ride. Only thing that might be an issue is seat height. It's not enduro bike tall, but it's not low. Most "beginner" bikes tend towards shortness. Personally I'd say better to learn on this tho

[@tadasj.1152]

Do you thinking about new exhaust ant pipes. I should be nice sound .

[@btgmoto]

I've thought about it a lot, but had to prioritise some other stuff. This month I had to replace the stock sump guard, which didn't last very long!

[@MoepMoep-Movies]

I do enjoy the Heidenau Scout and even the Ranger on my KTM 640 Adventure R onroad and offroad. But probably because I don´t go far over 100Km/h. Your a different breed of a biker. You obviously need more positive rubber on your tires to cope with the high speeds you are going.

[@btgmoto]

Thanks for the compliment, but I don't ride *so* hard

[@CasparLourens]

Dunlop Trailmax Raid are great tires, at least on-road... they feel like proper on-road tires. Have not yet been able to test them Off-road but they look way more capable compared to the standard Pirelli's

[@btgmoto]

Yep, I've seen them going fast even on a racetrack (look for the transalp nordschleife video from last october), but I'd be interested to ride them off-road. Thanks for the sub!

[@alperb.k1908]

Greetings from Turkiye. Currently using KTM 390 adv and trying to decide to go with Tuareg or ktm 890 adv :) I'm mostly in off road ride. :)

[@btgmoto]

For mostly off-road, I think the 890 or the Tuareg might be a little big. If it's ONLY off-road you care about, then smaller is better. Out of those two, I chose the Tuareg because I liked it :)

[@chrissunde1104]

Refreshing to see that the Tuareg can successfully replace the big GS.

[@btgmoto]

Yep! The big advantage is that I don't often take pillions. The Tuareg can do it, but the GS was the best bike for 2 people

[@LassesGlasskiosk]

I hawe Michelin Anakee adventure on my ktm 990 SM works so well on tarmac and dry gravel but kinda sucks as soon as theres any mud, was hoping the pirelli str would be better in the mud but i guess not :/ Prehaps the dunlop Mutant? or they may well be to street bias for your liking

[@btgmoto]

I loved the Mutants on my GS, but they're not off-road tyres

[@KalJoao]

Did you happen to try a Husky Norden? I am coming from a 1250GS as well looking for a lighter more fun bike for my daily commute that's half freeway, half busy city street filtering. Great vid!

[@btgmoto]

The Norden was one of the first bikes I tried, but I hated the vibes. Loved the suspension. Was worried about the cams. I did take some video, but not enough for a proper video

[@amb9839]

I rode 2000km on a rented GS with Karoo4 tyres in Andalucía. Great on and off tyre. Can now comment on the wet capabilities as tarmac was dry and off road was dry (and dusty) but I really liked the tyres and we were not going slowly. I have a test drive scheduled for the Touareg. Living in Luxembourg, I wouldn’t mind having some “shortcuts” to ride a bit of road around here, do you have any legal (even if short) paths you can share around your area?

[@btgmoto]

I have the feeling that a lot of my 'shortcuts' wouldn't be legal for long if I shared them online. In this part of the world it's tough to find any 'off-tarmac' routes at all.

[@ashleyhinton6926]

Watched a few of your videos recently, subscribed today👍 doing my 1st tour in September with 15 friends! Black forest hoping to take in the Nurburgring on the way as we are in central UK. Looking at an adventure bike next, going to test ride some at the ABR festival this year. Have you had a pillion on the Turaeg? Wondering how the 660 motor manages 2 up...

[@btgmoto]

Thanks for the sub! Black forest is mega. I live at the 'Ring so you'll have to send me a message if you want any help. Engine on the 660 is fine for relaxed 2-up riding, my boys love it. But the GS was a whole different level. That bike road almost as well 2-up as a 1-up. I'd describe the 660 as more than adequate for 2-up, but less than excellent

[@ashleyhinton6926]

@@btgmoto thanks for that, I may w well drop you a message as it all seems very complex at the ring, at a rough guess it will be a Sunday we will go to the ring, on our way to the main hotel. 👍

[@ashleyhinton6926]

@@btgmoto have you been to the ABR festival in the UK?

[@btgmoto]

@@ashleyhinton6926 I really really want to go. Maybe this year!

[@ph0t0g56]

The 660 engine is not "restricted". It's tuned for torque instead of horsepower.. 70Nm instead of 45Nm. Torque is what really drives a motorcycle.

[@btgmoto]

It's definitely a different tune, and makes more torque and earlier too. But it's not double, it's just a couple of Nm more, and much lower down

[@ScORTED]

The Karoo 3 were pretty bad in the road, particularly over 70 with wild head shaking. The 4 looks a bit less aggressive.

[@btgmoto]

Did you have them on the Tenere?

[@ScORTED]

@@btgmoto I did, after getting fed up of the scorpion str's being useless in mud I went to the much more aggressive K3's and they were ok on dry roads at low speeds, a bit marginal in corners in the damp. The head shaking at over 130kmh was pretty extreme. That said they were loads better in the body stuff and deeper mud.

[@scratastic1]

Nice video's but I have a question, do you have heated grips, and if so OEM or after market? I'm thinking about buying one but heard that the OEM isn't that good so might be better to skip that option and go after market.

[@btgmoto]

I didn't fit the OEM ones, I fitted some Oxford ones myself. Much hotter.

[@hmuel60]

Enjoying your Tuareg series. Did you have any challenges installing the Oxford heated grips? I’ve read somewhere that the throttle side was problematic. 😊Cheers

[@btgmoto]

Only thing I noticed was that to get a position that doesn't block the front brake (or the clutch on the left), I had to have the 'bulky' part near my thumb. Not the end of the world though.

[@grenphelps7455]

I have seen on the aprilia forum that you can get a map for the Tuareg 660 when you change the whole exhaust system, I don't know how that would work out, with you being in Germany and all....but there's another KZbinr who's done that to his Tuareg, hippodrones, Dunlop trailmax raid's 👍👍

[@btgmoto]

Yeah, de-catting bikes is kinda tricky here, especially recent models!

[@grenphelps7455]

​@@btgmoto maybe just a end can then, I know that's possible, through the other englishman who is on KZbin who lives in Germany and has a tuareg...andymancam

[@stav-tt3vg]

Any heat issues from the engine..? i read everywhere that it is a major issue and leaving in a country like Greece with high temperatures is the reason tha i have not purchased tuareg so far

[@btgmoto]

I've not noticed any problems at all, but the hottest I've ridden the bike so far was only 22 celsius, and I wear all the gear, all the time.

[@RedRupert64]

Is the motor really restricted - what's the torque compared to the Tuono? Maybe the Tuareg is just re-tuned? You'll feel the low down torque every time you ride the bike, but peak power not so often.

[@btgmoto]

Ahh yes, see one of the other comment threads. We drilled into it, and the Tuareg does have a nice torque bump around 5000rpm where the Tuono wakes up 1500rpm later

[@garyjohnson2856]

Qhat City is this filmed

[@btgmoto]

No city, just the Eifel, West Germany

[@jensherrmann7116]

I did a Testride on the Aprillia Tuareg 660. Whenever I fully opened up the Gas throttle, I noticed a verry big wobble in the front. It really frightened me and I did not concider to buy the bike anymore. Do you ever notice somethin like that, or was it a defect on my testbike?

[@btgmoto]

That's definitely not normal! I've ridden a couple of Tuaregs and none of them did that!

[@SuperCheesyMan]

at what speed did you get the wobble? stock tires?

[@dgomes265]

In Ontario Canada, you can loose your licence and up to $ 10k for pulling a wheelie. Have forgotten how to do them. 😢

[@btgmoto]

Sounds like the cultural oppression of my people :(

[@nockianlifter661]

AX41 ?

[@btgmoto]

Good call, will check those out on price and availability etc...

[@mrbase111]

Why does your exhaust sound so great?😂

[@btgmoto]

On this video I have one wireless mic level with the exhaust, attached to the luggage rack. This is what people behind you and around hear. It's a great sounding bike

[@volvogt21]

How's that cheap screen going?

[@btgmoto]

I took it off, it's only good for long journeys. I hate trying to look at the road or trail through it

[@volvogt21]

@@btgmoto fair enough. I bought one today. I'll probably be the same. Btw the video you did working out if you should sell the gs made me buy a tuareg. Super happy so far.

[@WelcomeToDaneland]

You're gonna be super busy next week because one of your Aussie mates is coming over and he will demand your attention 😁

[@btgmoto]

Sounds good!!

[@eaden9026]

Tuareg's engine isn't "restricted". It tuned for low rpm performance what enduro bike needs more that high rpm power of a sportbike.

[@btgmoto]

I compared the dyno traces, and you're not wrong. LOADS more mid-range on the Tuareg. The Tuono has to rev 2000rpm higher most of the time to match the Tuareg

[@rjsalameh]

Great video! I am considering getting a 660. Will I still enjoy it if I can’t pop wheelies and don’t speak German???😂

[@btgmoto]

Definitely worth a proper test-ride. You could always try Italian?

[@rjsalameh]

@@btgmoto I test rode. It’s a bit tall for me. But will sell my R1250 R and get one soon!! And learn Italian while I ride!!!🤣🤣

[@ALHEALY9110]

😎😎😎😎😎

[@btgmoto]

😁🍻

[@ownyourworld]

Mitas eo7’s

[@btgmoto]

Good call, I did have them on my F800GS a couple of times and they were OK

[@PatchedBandit]

Wow. Why are my comments being deleted immediately?

[@btgmoto]

I didn't do it? Connection issue?

[@PatchedBandit]

​@@btgmoto No idea. Just said that it might be slightly misleading to say the Tuareg is "tuned down" version as it's just tuned for offroad. Aprilia had to sacrifice some of the peak power to get a flatter torque curve. So it is tuned differently but not necessarily "down" 🙂

[@PatchedBandit]

Seems to be working now.. But yeah it's not 'restricted' it is just tuned for torque.

[@codforlife]

MOTOZ tyres!

[@btgmoto]

Thanks for the sub! Motoz are so hard to get here

[@codforlife]

Ahh that's a shame, i'm a convert. Really enjoying your channel mate! If you get a chance i would like to see you do a review on Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx. Cheers.@@btgmoto

[@spencervidal3168]

Motoz tires

[@btgmoto]

Hard to find here in Germany :/

[@spencervidal3168]

@@btgmoto Bummer

[@markshirley7639]

I have a new toy 🫣

[@btgmoto]

What have you got?

[@markshirley7639]

@@btgmoto Well ! I wasn't going to do it and I said I definitely wouldn't but ! I ride one . R1300 gs 🫣

[@btgmoto]

@@markshirley7639 I'll pretend I'm not jealous, if you pretend that you regret buying it. Deal?

[@markshirley7639]

@@btgmoto it's awful ! Biggest mistake I've ever made 🙄 you could review one ! Then you can tell everyone how awfull it is !

[@btgmoto]

@@markshirley7639 Sounds like a great deal! I'm actually not that bothered about it. It has a funny headlight, and that's enough to tell that it probably rides awful.

[@nessuno7071]

crap unreliable bike

[@btgmoto]

What happened to yours?