Do India have a problem against spin? |

[@Crudmonkey211]

Jaiswal looked incredible against spin at home vs England. His long legs got him to the bounce quickly and he was sweeping everything.

[@tushar4evr776]

We have to see how they do against spin in countries like Srilanka and Bangladesh.

[@gamerxvc3055]

Eng doesn't really have good spinners and also this sweeping is only one aspect of spin batting. Most important thing is foot movement which all new batters including Jaiswal lacks big-time

[@hardikparikh8751]

@@gamerxvc3055 What? He lacks footwork? You have not seen his game vs spin mate!

[@gamerxvc3055]

@@hardikparikh8751 lol I'm not talking about regular front foot back foot movement. There are no players in this current era that really moves around the crease well, mostly because of how the game is played. And the lack of good spinners of the ball

[@switchblade7422]

Dhruv jurel was incredible against spin in that series. He scored a 90 under pressure

[@santugk]

Jarrod started with a story of little master Sunil Gavaskar from 1981. 10 years into his international career, Gavaskar still played Ranji matches to hone his skills. Kohli last played his ranji match in 2012, Rohit in 2015 and KL Rahul in 2020. Hope things change under Gambhir.

[@DaddyjeeFF]

They have everything to lose, Even if they score 500 in an innings people will say and they do say 'relu katte bowlers the.' and if they get out cheaply than all hell breaks 😂

[@nazalmoideen]

They already have an unbearable workload without domestic cricket

[@agasthya7180]

They didn't play as much cricket as today's cricketers are playing. IPL wasn't a thing in the 80s. That's why Gavaskar and Sachin still played Ranji and West Indies players played County. There's just simply no time for players to play Ranji and international cricket

[@srinathprakash882]

So how is it that Kohli and Rohit were all great against spin till 2020 (Rohit still is), despite not playing Ranji for almost 5-6 years by that time?

[@pgback3620]

​@@srinathprakash882 Kohli for 8 years, just playing ranji won't do anything

[@Reverse_sweep63]

Rohit in an interview during 2017, revealed that he met gundappa vishwanath. The major fault the legend recognised and revealed to rohit was the lost art of playing spin with soft hands due to the urgency of hard hands and power required in odi

[@logukarthe]

Indian records against spin in tests recently are saved by lower order batting. If you consider which batting position scored runs in test against spin, you will be surprised. In the previous decade before Rohit era, most test runs scored by top order, need lower order score was less. But in this decade significant amount of runs came from lower order, which saved overall record.

[@ARandomGuy24]

The Indian wickets in general have gotten harder to bat on for both teams.

[@niravrasengupta7374]

@@ARandomGuy24 I noticed that as well.

[@iamhugeandsquare]

Been saying this for years, Indian tip order are just lucky they dont have to face Ashwin, Jadeja and Kuldeep at home, otherwise they'd be just as clueless as the touring batsmen have been against them.

[@Purjcbx]

They do have a problem against quality spin and will have a problem playing Lyon on Australian wickets this winter

[@aviralmishra4090]

this summer*

[@Anonymousperson12345-i]

Winter for us .. summer fir Australian

[@OrggsOrggs]

Hey Jarrod give us a wave mate! Big summer incoming 😎

[@anuragC819]

Keep forgetting November is summer in Aus

[@OrggsOrggs]

@@anuragC819

[@Samsungs6liteuser]

What a great video! That's some amazing data analysis right there. The WTC has forced the curators to make the tracks turn even more. You barely see the fifth day being played in home tests now. A bowler like Kumble would wreak havoc in these conditions.

[@Aragorn1964]

There’s something wrong with the cuts in this video, it keeps cutting off words

[@shahvishnu2]

Yes, I keep hearing that too, for a moment I thought my hearing was off.

[@ripunjaya]

It's not even a secret anymore, players from the subcontinent have become average players of spin these days especially players from both India and Pakistan. The main reason behind this is that the main players do not play domestic cricket anymore. Kohli has become an average player of spin due to not playing any sweep shots or using his feet against spinners -- two things that he used to do a lot in the early days of his career against spinners.

[@JetLagRecords]

Good Areas with Jarrod Kimber, your video is inspiring, keep it up

[@utube241]

great analysis - you are one of the best analytic commentators. one thing i would like is your analysis on the t20 final - how did s africa do so well against india spinners especially kuldeep when other teams were so bad. i posted this on one your videos but it was days later

[@bhaskyOld]

Yes, India has poblem against spin for a long time now. Indian test team is much more comfortable to play outside bouncy pitches than play at home in turner. Spin playing needs patience and a lot of grit and determination. This can not be expected from Gen-Z. I am not saying they are not putting the effort. They are way fitter than older players. But time has changed.

[@TerrAqua]

Am I missing something was Nathan Lyon missing in action in the last four BGTs or Something ?

[@roboticduniya1731]

Much awaited by cricket nerds to munch on...

[@dogaredeemer2711]

new Indian batters have problems against spin pace bounce seam et al, they are used to flat pitches now and fail at the onset of change

[@sachinkashyap121]

New players like jaiswall,sarfaraz,abhishek,rinku and few more are very solid against spin. They use their feet and sweep both sides which is quite rare.

[@sachinkashyap121]

Gill improved alot in that England series but his game is limited as he can’t sweep fluently.

[@dogaredeemer2711]

@@sachinkashyap121 sarfaraz jaiswal and rinku yes... but are they given chance in odi and test?? crap players are promoted over them

[@stallone8811]

2010's batsmen were very good and perhaps better at 3 things 1. using their wrists to nudge the ball around and/or create pace on slower balls 2. using the crease - dancing down the wicket or going really back and playing the pull or square cut 3. targeting specific spinners and not letting them settle They even did it to Shane Warne and Muralidharan including in SriLanka. Right from Sidhu, Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Ganguly, Laxman - all masters of spin. I can only remember Saqlain really bothering these guys in one test series in India Even though the current Indian team is good, the way cricket has played is changed, the pitches are different, DRS made it more challenging to put the bat behind the pad and block deliveries, etc, they are still not collectively comparable to the 2010s batting lineup. So ofc, the averages dropping is no surprise. Is like comparing the test win ratio of Australian 2010s cricket team vs today's. Even though today's Aussie team is prolly the best test team, its not comparable to the likes of hayden, langer, ponting, gilchrist, gillespie, warne and macgrath

[@tushar4evr776]

I do think that India are struggling against spin because they have stopped playing sweep shots. Rohit plays sweeps more compared to others and the results are there for everyone to see. Virat doesn't sweep much and he fails to accelerate during middle overs. The last series where Virat played sweep a lot was probably in the Border Gavaskar Trophy in 2014-15 in Australia. He should play it more often.

[@abhinashkumar3161]

Yes I want him to play sweeps shot more

[@jisungpar1]

There are editing and audio issues in this video, some words are either too faint or cut off.

[@arjunr1061]

You should get millions of views jarrod

[@sivacherry1262]

Rohit,Jaiswall,Iyer,Surya,Pant are the only players who can play spin well now rohit and iyer also struggling in last tour against SL

[@suneeshduvvuru6581]

Iyer,Surya can play spin only on flat pitches not on turning tracks.Pant can only play in tests.

[@rudrasadekar7316]

😂😂Rohit was struggling. My friend please name one played who played better in sl tour from both teams

[@ASH9366]

Mostly Powerplay player ✔️

[@rudrasadekar7316]

@@ASH9366 when he got out early in last odi, Kohli also played in pp kya ukhad liya. In t20wc Kohli opened nothing happened. All fail, hail Rohit Sharma

[@ASH9366]

@@rudrasadekar7316 overall 😅 RIP cricket fan 😴

[@utube241]

one thing i would like is your analysis on the t20 final - how did s africa destroyed india spinners especially kuldeep/axar when other teams were so bad.

[@ankurkaushik2125]

Great analysis 👍 Subcontinent conditions: 1. There is no debate that india play spinner well in indian subcontinent, since mostly they play straight its easy to manage the spin as pitch is slow and its easy to do last minute adjustment. 2. Overseas players tends to play sweep which is not the best option in subcontinent condition. SENA conditions: 1. As indian batters are accustomed to play straight, they don't play well spinner well as the ball comes quicker from the surface. *Bowlers like rashid khan, zampa make it tough sometimes for indian batters. 2. Sweep or cross shots may be considered as higher percentage shots which english/australian batters plays significantly better.

[@svishal1225]

In the last england test series in india. Indian batsmen clearly struggled against englands inexperienced spinners on a good turning pitch and the recent srilanka series showed that clearly

[@cricketwithsparsh9506]

Excellent stuff!

[@7stiano123]

Virat Kohli should retire

[@theaveragesinger]

Mann Jarrod, I like your WhiteBoard explanation very interesting. This slideshow thing is hard to follow. 🙄 Appreciate your research and effort. Thanks.

[@akshaybhatt3378]

Even when someone is presenting legit stats and scales to show that "India is not really getting weak against spin" it's the diffrence of era. People are still having their nostalgia far masks on lol. Like how you can't really play with soft hands because the loss of hitting power, the pitches since 2017eng series are the worst for batting in Indian history and other teams are overall getting better in terms of field placement and analysis regarding the batters. I mean in comparison 70s and 80s never had drs which helps the spinners the most(even KP said the same), since late 90s to 2015/16 India was serving flat decks. In the entire 90s-10s only Warnie and Murli were proper gold standard spinners along with Pak but India rarely played Pak on good wickets as both teams used to keep making flat decks so that the series can turn up to a draw and they both can live to see another day. Or how about the curator's own words where he stated that he was ordered to make the leg side dry when Warnie was travelling to India for the tour and then Indian batters bashed him into oblivion. Or how they were ripped apart from a debutant Mendis ? Or how about the 04 and 08 Asia cup where SL ripped them in the finals ? What happened to the "best players of spin" when the situation demanded the most of them ? The only guy who we can name as the best against spin is Sehwag. Others were 50-50 cases all the fucking time.

[@utube241]

indians struggle against turn - whether it is fast bowlers or spinners.

[@tigersden13]

This notion of Indians are still masters of playing spin even in Tests is absolutely ludicrous. Let them invite Sri Lanka or Bangladesh for more than 2 Tests and play them in pitches that resemble the likes on which they bully Australia or England. Their batters only look better in comparison cause they are playing against bowlers who are much worse in those conditions compared to their spinning greats. I'm from Bangladesh so I can't confidently say we would beat them in Test matches overall but I know for a fact that our spinners are just as good as them on those wickets. If Shakib, Taijul and Miraz can get a go at them on spinning tracks in India, I am absolutely sure they wouldn't stand a chance. . I know that'll never happen cause that's how you use home advantage in test cricket but saying they are the best is a joke. They are just as clueless as most modern cricketers. . Indians on their quest to become the best team on all kinds of conditions have let go of their subcontinent roots. That is the truth of it. . Yes they are actively trying to sweep the ball more often but it is ridiculous that they have to actively do that as if they are English or Australians. You should have that in your repertoire before coming to international cricket as a player from the subcontinent. . In white ball cricket, they mostly play on batting tracks which helps in maintaining those ridiculous stats across the team and that's why they get found out in tournaments when the pitches begin to deteriorate later. . Since about 2018 they have been struggling whenever the pitch offers any sort of turn. They especially struggle against leg-spinners as not even their greats can read the ball out of the hand. But we can let that slide as these days I don't think there are many people left in the world who can do that. . They don't play first class cricket. . They are good. Perhaps the best overall. But nowhere near being considered to be Masters of playing spin bowling.

[@cobragaming1186]

Let's see. Bangladesh is visiting india.

[@tigersden13]

@@cobragaming1186 It is very likely that the pitches for this series will be flat. India will take no chances especially after Bangladesh beat Pakistan 2-0.

[@cobragaming1186]

@@tigersden13 We r not pakistan. We lost last series in 2012 in india.

[@tigersden13]

@@cobragaming1186 Everybody in the world knows that. I'm not saying we are gonna beat you guys 2-0. Even getting a draw will be very challenging for us if the pitch allows it (Cause I don't believe in our batters). What I'm saying is India will not prepare spinning tracks for this series cause our spinners are just as good. This possibility went out the window further when they saw us beat Pakistan 2-0. They could've prepared a green top but we have a good pace bowling attack as well. So, the most likely scenario is they are gonna prepare flat pitches where they are gonna try to outplay us longer in the 5 days to get a win. But if Bangladesh can win the toss, then there's a big chance that we can draw or win a test match against India. This possibility is going back to my original point that the current generation of Indian players, even their greats are not masters of playing spin. Otherwise they wouldn't be afraid of preparing normal wickets when Bangladesh is coming over.

[@cobragaming1186]

@@tigersden13 In world cup, there r normal pitches. Also, in west indies this year, there was spin friendly pitches. However, it is right, our batsman r struggling against spin. But, in test we won't lose even against spin because we r just too strong in test. However, situation changes in odi..

[@user-cd3ys6yq9r]

Those playing domestic cricket should be the ones playing cricket for home series.They are better equipped at handling spin.Better than kohli and rohit.

[@gamerxvc3055]

Stop lying that india has the best spin batters. After 2000 dravid is the only one in the top 10 players avg against spin. While nz and sl has two players each. Don't be a suck up to India for money. Edit: aus have 2 batters too

[@lohicreations2441]

Kimber, can you make a video on how good are indian spin duo ashwin-jadeja and axar-kuldeep

[@stockg1379]

The only good players of spin in India are the ones that are playing it day in day out domestically, International players do not play good spin often therefore will lose some of their skills

[@rohanp56]

Would love to see Bangladesh beat India in both the tests.

[@prakashmahtani6345]

Kimbo you forgot our coach, Gautam Gambhir was an excellent player of spin too.

[@Tamil2020-ub3zo]

Yash is the player

[@thereverselist1383]

Pujara should get more opportunities

[@ekanshkumar6119]

Can't tell you about India but Virat Kohli offcourse have problem with spin

[@king_has_no_clothskul8635]

srilankan spinners only good at beginning and they can be sorted out once you figure them out. ashwin did not play here. remember mendis? once he was sorted out he was done! india went there uncooked, hence lost.

[@nikhilverma5477]

Yes

[@yashsingh1631]

I don't even understand why a bit would spam comments here

[@muhammedhaaris7871]

Pakistan play spin better

[@sachinkashyap121]

Nope. They are bad at almost everything nowdays. After misbah and yunus their batsmanship sucks in test matches. They got out on flat pitches against spin bowling.

[@devynkumar1997]

Short answer 'Yes'

[@Evil_Clown-eh6jz]

Anyone who claims that Kohli is a GOOD player of spin, probably hasn't seen much cricket.

[@ugenbhutia1345]

How many channels do you have sir.,how many times do I have to subscribe your channel... as soon i see u explaining I subscribe it and now it's the new one again.