👮‍♂️Do LEO's Get The BEST AMMO?👮‍♀️

[@thealarmclock9307]

I asked my buddy, who is the swat team armorer at the county I'm in.. he said the ONLY difference is LEO ammunition usually comes in 50 round boxes and it's marked that way to indicate tax exemption

[@ToolsandTargets]

Sounds about right.😎👍

[@mterwill9]

Couple notes here, my department actually issues the HST in 45. 1)The “Law Enforcement” packaging is just because it’s the 50 round bulk boxes. 2) The difference with the sealant is because the “law enforcement” box you have is actually an older run. The box gives it away and federal has just gone to a different sealant which has that blue color in the newer stuff. The older stuff was sealed as well it was just clear.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Makes sense. Thanks for the info!

[@DinoNucci]

Correct.

[@livebaitlarry5783]

i noticed that with my carry ammo, mter. i have .40 hst and one lot of it is sealed with brown and the other is blue green. i also have .380 hydra which is sealed in a pinkish red, .380 hst sealed in the same blue green as the .40 and 9mm hst sealed in straight blue. i have no clue why other than what you'd said about its date.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

Do LEO’s get the “good stuff”? I can only say this from experience. My brother who was an MP in the Army then spent 20 years as a deputy for our county’s sheriff’s Dept. use to carry different ammo for his off duty personal carry gun. I asked him once why he did that.He told me what the county issued was okay, but his choice for personal carry was much better in his opinion. He told me the issue ammo was chosen because it’s what they got for the cheapest bid. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I don’t know what he was issued, but I know he carried Federal Hydra Shok for his personal tool.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Makes sense.😎👍

[@michaelmiller4568]

Very true it goes to the lowest bid that meets standards. Can't beat the Underwood stuff or speer gold dot. Expensive but worth it. Underwood always loaded their stuff hot and small batch

[@wizkaqueefa9003]

Same thing w/ SIG M17 beating out the Glock 19X in Mil. trials. Had nothing to do with Quality/Accuracy (SIG had 3x as many Jams as the Glock), the SIG was just 30% cheaper

[@willieboy7264]

It always comes down to cost. Nypd uses gold dot, but they can buy extreme volume. Gold dot is an incredible round. HST + P in 40 and 9 is used by other depts near NYPD. Honestly I feel like the re- branding for LEO HST, was a way for them to sell same stuff? Then + P came out and was a game changer in every cal. So imo LEO would be same as HST and the + P was just the hotter round that came out later.

[@texasbeast239]

Glock owes much of its worlwide popularity to the fact that they have given sweetheart deals to law enforcement agencies all over. Then they could use the fact that X amount of law enforcement agencies trust their hardware as a selling point to civilians to follow suit. But large organizations like militaries and law enforcement agencies have to juggle a lot of different criteria and parameters when selecting gear. Objective performance is only part of the equation for them. They also have to multiple costs for anywhere from dozens to tens of thousands of people. Beancounters inevitably compromise the purists' quest for the best ballistic performance. But we don't have to be burdened by those concerns. We don't need to buy and warehouse for thousands of troops or agents. We only have to provide for ourselves and our families. So we owe it to ourselves to figure out the very best gear for our budgets and smaller economies of scale. That means we can probably splurge for Underwoods and Federal Premium HSTs or what-not.

[@timrobinson6573]

That LEO 45 HST is legit. For such low velocity it penetrated really deep and expanded to basically 70 caliber. For LE purposes that's exactly what you would want. A hard barrier comparison between these two might be a good test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@rodkirt9273]

Actually , you want for the bullet to stop inside ; then all of the kinetic energy has been transferred/absorbed to/by the target , respectively .

[@timrobinson6573]

@@rodkirt9273 not if you're shooting through a barrier like a windshield. You have a lot to learn. Also, handgun ammunition has such comparably low energy that this kinetic energy dump you're refering to makes no difference and is not an element that can be reliably depended upon. Rifles and shotguns are a different story when it comes to energy.

[@timbaker266]

@@timrobinson6573 yep that needed to be cleared up thanks man

[@DasGoodSoup]

@@rodkirt9273 for us that are accountable for our stray rounds maybe lmao i still carry hunting 357 mag bc i know itll make a hole front and back side

[@jeffray6197]

During my LEO career, I don’t ever remember any ammo being designated LE ammo. We used Federal +P and were always pleased with its performance. As is with many products nowadays, a certain name/title/description of a product is merely nothing more than marketing for sales. Thank you for a great video, as always my friend!! Stay safe!🇺🇸👍🏻

[@red9man2130]

Correct! Likely as not! I would hasten to add that poor training,bad budgets and GUTLESS administration goes a long way here!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!

[@josephpacchetti5997]

As an Ex-LEO, I disagree Jeff.

[@ratagris21]

Marketing aka scamming you for more money.

[@garygates5679]

GREAT VIDEO ... !!!!!! AFTER WATCHING YOUR VIDEO A BOUGHT 2 BOXES OF THAT HST ... !!!! THANK YOU FOR THESE GREAT VIDEOS .... !!!!!!! YOU ARE SAVING ME $$$$ .... !!!!!!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE .....! ! !

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, brother!

[@bobgaylord8883]

Appreciate your tests: projectile speed, penetration, expansion, and material loss. All done without any B.S. Your channel is my preferred "go to" for accurate information, Thanks for what you do !

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@billdye3530]

Either will keep you safe. If it says HST you can count on it. Buy whichever is in stock at the lower price.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@billdye3530]

@@ToolsandTargets Most of us don't have to worry about better penetration thru windshields & barriers that LEO do. They need all the extra tools they can get because the world isn't getting better. 😥

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@billdye3530 Aint that the truth.

[@chrismorley9127]

Back in my cop days we carried a s&w 5906 9mm with standard pressure hst. I think they were 124 grain? No problems. Good video. Thanks.👍🇺🇸

[@ladonnaghareeb4609]

That's what we use in our 9's. Great stuff.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Love some 124 HST's.

[@Markshoots]

As always, your test get right to the point without a bunch of needless commentary. Great video as usual sir.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, I get to rambling a little but I try to keep it to the point.😎👍

[@duncanomalley5370]

From what I’ve watched and read, LEO ammo is supposed to meet some barrier penetration protocol and still expand reliably. It’s was explained in a video of Hornady critical duty vs. critical defense. Like how federal punch is cheaper than HST. The punch(center fire) doesn’t meet that protocol so it’s cheaper.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, different models or lines of ammo are definitely engineered differently. But if it's the same ammo like here, it's nothing more than packaging and marketing from everything I've seen.

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Massive expansion on the +P ! In my book Federal sets the standard in SD rounds. Love the sound of the Colt metal frame and slide. Great video. Thanks. 👍🇺🇸👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

I was noticing the sound of it when I was editing.😎👍

[@KD-lb9bg]

Thanks for another fine round of “Jelly Time” testing. Looking forward to the next.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, my friend!

[@pewpewTN]

I have some of the Police Tactical Bonded in .40 & they have blue primer sealant. I believe the ones you have are also sealed, but with clear sealant.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Possible, but there's no doubt it's still blue on these +P standard packaged one.

[@RL-RL]

Years ago I came across a 9mm+P+ round and watch the demonstrations of it. It blew away all FBI protocols and to this day, nothing has even come close. I taked to the manufacturer and distributor about them, and ended up buying a case. They were only made for Military, Police, FBI, and Secret Service, but still sold some until the got in trouble doing so. There were about 15 videos about this round, but now only one short one left here on YT. Last year they came out with a 5.56 for the same agencies, and it was crazy, people started buying them up until they ran out of inventory. Again, they were told not to sell to the public anymore. So yes, there are still rounds made for certain agencies that we can't buy, but they are VERY powerful and devestating. Until then, what you have shown in previous tests are what we have to choose from.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@livebaitlarry5783]

that ammo is still out there, rl rl. it can be bought. until its all gone.

[@RL-RL]

@@livebaitlarry5783 The brand I'm taliing about isn't available anymore. They do make another caliber and it's rare to find due to limited quantities.

[@Nutty.357]

Nice! I like them both! +P for indoor defense/lower penetration application and LE for good general use defense where over penetration isnt an issue! Is there any "bad" HST? Probably not lol! Happy Friday!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I don't think there is!

[@rodkirt9273]

Thanks for demonstrating the shorter barrel . !

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@jimmydunn3775]

So glad you did this test! I have always wondered if there was a difference.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@hhds4716]

I'm about to stir up the pot, So it has been shown that rifle round velocity of 2000 plus feet per Creates shock wave and tearing effect, So therefore most pistol rounds under that velocity are not As effective and the differences between calibers and velocities under that are all negligible Therefore the best way to stop an attacker is a center mass shot,, for the spine, therefore a larger caliber and more expansion for less misfactors or higher hit factor And heavier weight to penetrate the bone would be preferable. aka 45 acp or even 50gi lol...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Or just appendix carry your AR!😲

[@ctsnider88]

I agree, HST is all you need💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@trustnot9]

GREAT TEST, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A FEW BOXES OF EITHER ONE, THANKS.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Definitely some good stuff.

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Makes me wonder if the LE round has a heavier jacket or different lead recipe for better penetration. HST continues to impress. Thanks for sharing Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Possibly. Thank you sir.

[@chretired]

Nice video Tools. Essentially these are the same rounds. The LEO round is designed for slightly better performance vs barriers. But it's difficult to pass up that massive expansion of the +p round. Thanks for all you do. Be safe, be vigilant

[@ToolsandTargets]

Can't go wrong either way.😎👍

[@chretired]

@@ToolsandTargets Take care and be safe with the remnants of Ian

[@azazelakira12]

Great test, great expansion of the God caliber

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@KantoCacho]

Wow amazing test. Seems like those LEO rounds are designed for barrier penetration while still retaining a good expanding projectile. Norm HST with 12inches of penetration and fantastic expanded bullet seemed to deliver more energy because it stopped sooner with more expansion. HST is some good stuff Thank you Tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely. Appreciate you!

[@josephpacchetti5997]

They are the exact same rounds, The only difference is the primer sealer is clear on the older box and the newer have blue color primer sealer.

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Good test with great results from the Federal HST for both styles of ammo. The +P was a huge expander. The test revealed both ammo types potential for how they were created to perform. Good job! Be safe out there buddy. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😎

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@davidjernigan8161]

I think the one low velocity with the +p was a bad read, and the +p is probably developed for a 5 inch gun.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@B_R_]

I appreciate your efforts on the test. The "law enforcement" label on those retail packages is a marketing tactic to entice average people into buying them through the power of suggestion that they will be getting some added benefit. Just like adding the word "antibacterial" to soap, which is already antibacterial by design. That's what qualifies it as soap in the first place.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Down here the cops don’t get discounts on ammunition due to them knowing very little about them. I’ve watched them trying to re-qualify on the pistol range with very poor results. I was in a police station a few years ago and while the staff were discovering a serial number they were pointing the gun at the receptionists head. Unbelievable.. They never even cleared the weapon before the inspection either….Down here they mainly enforce the rules for the Corporation called The Australian government ( its just a big business that’s run from overseas )…. Nice projectile expansion 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

That's a shame. I suspect about half of our police forces here are the same way these days though.😣

[@bigtrev761]

@@ToolsandTargets 🇦🇺😎👍Yeh brother. It’s guys like us that need to keep the dreams alive and keep heading in a more positive direction and create great memories . Mankind needs to invest more into Tools&Targets🏁and put their differences aside

[@livebaitlarry5783]

@@ToolsandTargets its true. for the majority of LE officers their side arm is nothing more than a tool that must go with them when they go to work. to them similar to the radio or the axon. a part of the outfit.

[@open-carry-guy888]

I am a new subscriber and I really love your videos very informative and entertaining, please keep on doing what you're doing Tools. 💪🤙👍🏾👊💯

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Really appreciate that!

[@ronaldgarvie9661]

You should match 45acp and 44 special. Great job on thoses 45s.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good idea.😎👍

[@kentuckywindage222]

Duty weapons usually are full size or longer barrel however you wanna look at it. Giving more velocity than 800 fps from a compact. Standard ammo has to cover more bases as in short to long or compact to full size. Most concealed carry are shorter barrel compact or subcompact. Gold Dot did seal the bullet and primer, plus date stamp the head for their LEO ammo. I still have a partial box of LEO 9MM 124gr. Standard pressure. How I know they also sealed the bullet I pulled one. There is or used to be a black tar looking substance around the projectile and a ring at the bottom of where the base of the projectile had been seated. Also the box of Gold Dot LEO rounds all have brass colored primers, (Winchester? Harder primer?) In nickel cases. Not sure how many I have in the box as I stated earlier but if you are interested and want to test a couple and pull one, let me know how or where to send you a few.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@randlerichardson5826]

Them plus P would sure enough be mean rounds out of a carbine now. That would be a good way to test them to maybe a single shot Rossi. I’ve got a single shot Rossi chambered in 243 it shoots absolutely great. I can order different caliber barrels for it. Be safe Tools GOD BLESS y’all buddy Amen 🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting

[@Dwayne7834]

Not enough difference between the two that either would be good. Good test thanks for video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. Thank you sir.

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Very good test and those flowers sure are purdy LOL . You have the best ammo test videos on the web , Thank you

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that bigtime! Maybe I should make an HST garden!💥🌼💥

[@bobg.8954]

Really good test Tools, I've always wondered myself and I love that Colt ya got, that thing is sweet!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👍

[@jasonkeating9958]

The +p round looks like it's close to max expansion if it had more fps it should start going deeper I think its used all it had expanding, The round just looks amazing would love to see this in a 460smc or especially the 460 rowland, I think it could handle another 400 to 500fps

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed

[@darthamerica9119]

The LE ammo is probably using a different alloy composition to retard expansion. This will increase penetration which is desirable for LE. Interesting that the LE .45 ACP and 9mm HST you tested before expand to the same diameter somewhat negating the caliber difference.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@andywilson8698]

I really wanna see some really hot 185gr +p 45acp, some that stuff is a beast!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'll see what I can come up with.😎👍

[@andywilson8698]

@@ToolsandTargets thanks tool ,ur the man!!!

[@johnmaresca69]

I have resolve saying this because I can't remember where I read it, but if I do remember correctly the +p version needs 800fps or more to expand and the leo version construction needs little more as the construction is slightly different in design to go through barriers. I wish I could remember where/who but makes sense to me

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@josephpacchetti5997]

There is no difference both are labeled Law Enforcement in the 50 round boxes, I have both and will be more than happy to send you a screenshot of both!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I pretty much already knew that, just wanted to show some others.😎👍

[@josephpacchetti5997]

@@ToolsandTargets Yeah, I'm not sure why Federal wanted to do this on the 20 round boxes and instead put personal defense.

[@allenbolen9705]

Definitely like the LEO penetration more. Both were moving slow maybe normal for 45. Love the Colt911!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir!

[@livebaitlarry5783]

i have always believed LE receives the ammo that is hotter and charged more consistently, among other things. i once picked up some ranger t-series .380 that was advertised as trade in or contract overrun and it was horrible. out of three boxes i had to throw away around 20 or so for being out of spec or whatever. bullets seated crooked. seated too far into the case. not seated far enough. it was a mess. i still have that ammo but i will not carry it. conversation piece type item. lol! i was disappointed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I hate getting bad rounds in a batch of ammo.😣

[@TarmanDan]

Great video! 45acp is one of my favorites!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@trustnot9]

Thanks!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, my friend! Hope you have a great weekend!😎👊

[@trustnot9]

@@ToolsandTargets no problem, you have a great weekend also....

[@keithtate1241]

The law enforcement is probably designed for better penetration. I can see where that may be more beneficial for law enforcement purposes. Thanks for the video and keep shooting my friend 😊.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@frank6029]

Both will definitely do the job but the Leo round was way better on penetration Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@markreaves8086]

Love the 45 ACP !

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@donskiver]

Good grief...those .45s would leave a nasty, nasty wound.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir

[@johngrunwell2412]

Very interesting again! However, my chosen platform is the .40S&W in 180gr. It would be interesting as I purchased the Standard Load Federal Hydra SHOK at 180gr with sealed primers, but would like to see a comparison between them and the same weight and load HST in a 4in. barrel! There could be the difference that one may choose one over the other and their application in a side by side comparison? SOFT barriers (clothing) effects any HP, and any HARDENED barrier it’s the weight of the projectile and the foot-pounds presented that matters to me. Again, very well presented video, THANKS AGAIN.f

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I know I have the Hydra Shok .40S&W in 155 grain but not sure about the 180. I'll have to see what I can hunt down.😎👍

[@chrislang5659]

Looks like both work really well!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely.😎👍

[@dre6262]

I am a 40 hst man for sure I don’t want to get hit with either one keep them coming brother

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen to that!

[@herbertblevins7077]

Some LEO ammo has low flash powder but mostly it what the lowest bid is. The Black Talon Ammo we were issued had brass cases not nickel like the ones sold to the public.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting

[@cryswimmer]

Thanks for the valuable information.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you watching, my friend!

[@tysonc6422]

Thank you!

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@billdont2458]

Generally LEO stuff is made to run in full size guns. With .45 there may have been a difference if ran in a 5" gun. Many times civilian stuff is made for shorter carry type weapons.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@elblancobasura]

"Does LEO get the good stuff jelly time!" That's for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@livebaitlarry5783]

ha!

[@hoffpbass]

I don't have any HSTs in 45. I did buy 1 box of Federal Punch either 210 or 220gr in 45 though. Thought those would be good in the 4.25" 1911 Commander. I seem to recall Tools might have a video on these which inspired me to get them. Now I have to find these HSTs.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Punch is some good stuff to. I need to do another test with them.😎👍

[@l.a.3887]

Some more good testing they both definitely will do the job thanks tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@cbroz7492]

Military ball is Spozed'ta be 85p for for a standard 230p gr bullet in 45 ACP

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@deejayimm]

That small of a velocity difference doesn't seem enough to be the reason for the difference in expansion. That might say +p, but 10fps more? I wonder if the law enforcement hollow points are made to not expand as much so they do better at barrier penetration. I remember reading somewhere that when law enforcement are procuring guns and ammo, penetrating car bodies is high on their priority list, or at least it was at one time. That being said, from a business standpoint, it makes more sense that the only difference should be in the 50rnd packaging.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, some rounds have a very small window between expanding well and not, but who knows.🤷‍♂️

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍appreciate the test, thanks tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@Bluesky5553]

Nice test, Tools.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@wgs6606]

That Colt must be the plainest Janest gun you own. Rock on!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Belongs to my dad.😎👍

[@snowdogthewolf]

Your Colt has "the mark"! LOL, you know someone in the peanut gallery had to say it. I can without any guilt as some of my 1911s have the mark as well. You should see me reassemble my wife's NP3 coated Kimber Classic Custom after range day... it's like watching a diaphoretic Tourette's syndrome sufferer playing the Operation board game; anxiety goes to 11.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I don't even know what the mark is.😆

[@leroycaudill96]

Good comparison Tool's good video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@scottodonahoe9505]

Why is that tree back ? 🤣🤣🤣

[@ToolsandTargets]

I buried it in the Pet Cemetary!😲😲😲

[@aahhronismyname8068]

Hst are good. So are gold dots and surprisingly fiocchi defense dynamics.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I still need to try some Fiocchi.

[@davidbonomo415]

LEO ammo goes through a couple more quality checks before release.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@right2bear802]

I've heard that the LE HST is designed for barriers kinda like the Critical Duty vs Critical Defense

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@danielharms1371]

Maybe try +p against +p?

[@ToolsandTargets]

Haven't seen any of the "LE" packaged stuff around here in +P.

[@Levi_shep]

Shoot the LE round from a duty size gun like a 5in 1911 or a HK45.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@robertharing7031]

I was very curious about which round was going pull ahead and I’m very tickled that the plus p round seemed just better overall

[@danoman5217]

They get what available. Many Dept. Bid on bulk.

[@danoman5217]

I went from PMC 115 grain 9mm to 124 grain federal HST. Next issue is any one guess

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@eddiearchuleta615]

The Leo boxes are sealed it’s a clear sealant they now use blue even on the newer Leo boxes

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@megatrends]

I wonder how much more expansion on the LE booolittts from a bit more velocity one would get from a standard 5" 1911 barrel length instead of the shorter that you used.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'm curious about that now too.

[@robertseafield5810]

Both look good to me. Especially since they came out of a baby 45.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@rodneymills1403]

the hst leo's are like the hornady critical duty a barrier penatrator

[@ToolsandTargets]

👍

[@rogerray2545]

Brother you put out the best videos on KZbin just shoot no BS another awesome video

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!

[@agrif762]

Pretty sure it’s the same ammo. I would guess the 50 round LE boxes are overrun that isn’t bought up by police departments and then is sold to the public. It also makes sense for departments to buy the 50 round boxes since they shoot a lot more of it than civilians.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Seems that way.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 those would work 🤷‍♂️ which one is cheaper.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep. 50 round "LE" ones are definitely cheaper for me.

[@bigandy2109]

Thinking back to the video you did with the Sierra 185 grain 45 acp , which do you prefer in the shorter 45 barrel 185 or 230 grain ?

[@ToolsandTargets]

I would probably go with 185 from this shorter barrel.

[@TheCrewChief374]

The only difference I can see is the LEO rounds come in a box of 50 for near the same price as the other rounds that come 20 or 25 rounds in a box. Yet the more rounds I can get for near the same price as the non LEO rounds is why I would go with the LEO rounds. Not because they may or may not be better than the non LEO rounds...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@randalbigirvirvin1153]

Looks like the Law Enforcement is maybe a more stringent quality controled round based on the chronograph.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It was very consistent.

[@livebaitlarry5783]

agreed. ive always believed that the ammunition LE receives is charged more consistently.

[@frankgrillo8094]

On 45acp-- 165-180 +p is the way to go --

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@williamray3101]

Those rounds look good 5" barrell what they need😊😊😊

[@earlmorrison8163]

The only difference I see is the price ,the +p I saw was a few dollars more !!! Thanks for the test !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@ibpositivemostly7437]

Cool video thanks.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@Drknow-mx1fj]

Not much expansion but good penetration to still cause som good damage

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@Cr0wmagnum]

L.E I belive is a low flash powder.( I think?) It would be interesting to pull a couple and do a side by side and see.

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤔

[@ArthurHeil-gs5jt]

Good job!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@michaelmiller4568]

I always love watching jelly time!!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!

[@carbonspyder235]

Those are good Bullets Hard to chose between them and Gold Dot 🤔

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely

[@rjw261984]

I think they are marked LEO because they are in 50rd boxes not because they are loaded differently. 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Nice results ! I don't think I have any hst's . Marketing !?

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@davidjernigan8161]

The only difference is the packaging unless the LEO ammo has a sealed primer and bullet.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@livebaitlarry5783]

i noticed that as well on my .40 hst. i have two lots of it. one has both the primer and bullet sealed. the other has only the primer sealed. i have no idea why.

[@kenworland1865]

Good stuff! 👊👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@Donald_R_DeCicco]

If anyone remebers the Ninja Turtles secrets of the ooze movie. These are like shredder before and after the ooze😆. They're both some good stuff👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@louv4437]

Only difference if there was one would be a bonding

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@destroyingdadxx2274]

I bet with a 5” gun the expansion would be awesome in both.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm. Might have to try that.

[@jasonkeating9958]

The le lead has a darker appearance do you think its a harder cast lead or is it the camera

[@ToolsandTargets]

Could be I suppose.