Do meal delivery companies live up to their recycling claims? (Marketplace)

Marketplace is putting some of the biggest meal delivery companies to the test to find out what gets recycled and what gets tossed. Are the recycling claims as green as they look or just greenwashing?
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[@ONAIRwithDYLAN]

I’m always weary of companies that refuse to talk on camera…. It’s usually a sign that those companies cannot support their claims.

[@TyChokdee]

There's something that's hard for us as consumers to acknowledge, and it's that we have a big demand for cheap, convenient packaging. Are consumers willing to pay more for higher cost environmentally packaging or sacrifice convenience with returnable containers? It eases our conscience to point our fingers to companies that are not environmentally friendly, but in reality it's consumer demand for bite-size packaging and convenience that encourages these companies to continue with these practices.

[@talscriver5870]

The best thing environmentalists can do for the planet is not procreate. Having one child will do more environmental damage than one person using Hello Fresh for a lifetime.

[@jceeross6763]

Right now this lockdown is eating away my saving, I don’t wanna pay more until Spring

[@BoomKatz]

consumer choice or voting with your wallet doesnt really mean much when a wealthy individual or company can drop a million dollars no sweat. and most people cant afford environmentally-friendly alternatives anyways

[@justlikehoney1859]

@@talscriver5870 okay you first

[@catlzo]

@@justlikehoney1859 You are all proving his points. We all know there are good reasons why those packaging are "great" for us indivisually. It doesnt make them any less environmentally damaging.

[@axdicaire]

it’s good that marketplace is putting a spotlight on these meal kit services but to be honest, I’m more pistoff at our governments who lack the spine to implement any sensible packaging regulation on the packaging industry. It’s quite infuriating

[@tendy101100]

Pistoff?? What???

[@Healza22]

Do you just expect them to put your food like raw onions in cardboard boxes or what?

[@gracemir2]

The idea of meal kit is awesome. However, all of the packages from each ingredients are horribly too many. That’s the reason I don’t use meal kits.

[@zooedca]

So don't complain about the packaging and go buy in bulk. Plan your meals and cook. What do you expect a small portion to come in.

[@Smile.911]

exactly

[@evanwarkentin3606]

do they want everything to be loose in the cardboard box???

[@Smile.911]

@@evanwarkentin3606 paper packaging exists, natural organic plastics exist. The goal of the video is to speed up these companies in making their packaging waste eco friendly and recyclable in more places

[@351528]

Some items could come loose in the box or in a smaller brown paper bag like onions, peppers, potatoes etc. Alternatively there are manufacturers making truly biodegradable packaging from things like corn and mushrooms.

[@harshbarj]

I still can't believe people use these services. The cost of one serving for one meal is enough for me to eat 4 meals for 2 days. I have looked into these with the hope that they would save money, and not one does. Even the ones that claim they are cheaper than shopping.

[@caitlinbrown884]

I always wonder where these ingredients come from and how they are sourced

[@MTGeomancer]

That's easy, and should be obvious. The lowest bidder.

[@teresarydberg1450]

It would have been interesting to see if the cost was also comparable to whether you bought the ingredients yourself to make the dishes.

[@MTGeomancer]

They aren't even close to comparable. Not unless you do your shopping at Whole Paycheck.

[@hodokwaja]

Not so many cities recycle plastic bags/wraps. One of reasons why I stopped chefs plate

[@50jakecs]

Good for you. At least, you're being conscientious. I avoid buying anything that is in small, pre-packaged materials that will create more waste.

[@me899]

Cities don't, but some stores have their own recycling programs for plastic films (2 and 4 films)

[@hodokwaja]

@@50jakecs I do that too. Overpackaging is bad for the environment AND cost of over-packaging is also passed onto people as well.

[@randomrazr]

do the meals turn outgood actually tho?

[@me899]

@@randomrazr we have been with hello fresh nearly a year. But hello fresh at least (not sure about the others) allow you to cancel anytime, so it's definitely worth trying a couple of boxes with no obligation to continue.

[@mmartin8877]

I'm glad CBC is tackling this! What about all the cutlery from Uber etc when you don't ask for it! As a side note, the recent ruling on Keurigs recycling claims would prove otherwise to companies being allowed to make Green washing claims. Class action is possible.

[@MuiKaHo]

I keep the plastic cutlery. I then save them for use for camping lol

[@kimertly]

I feel like you are missing the point with some of this recycling talk. Technically the packaging that is labelled recyclable IS recyclable, just not in most municipalities because we have too much plastic and it is not affordable for places to recycle it. In reality, most plastic that goes into your bluebin gets sent to the landfill in the long run, either because it can't be recycled in your area or because there is too much new and cheap plastic and there's no demand for recycled. The biggest difference these companies could make would be to use reusable packaging. It doesn't seem like it would be too much of a stretch because many people are getting regular deliveries from them already. Just have your used containers be picked up when your new box is being delivered.

[@greeleyestateslove]

The price of pretty much every bale has gone way up in covid. Feedstocks selling like crazy. Not enough supply....erm because consumers don't know how/what to recycle (i dont blame them at ALL). I just went to a conference and lots of the talk were how to grow the feedstock/supply. Because the demand is there.

[@warrenhammer7262]

Reusable packaging would require the company to send over a vehicle to retrieve them, which may not be profitable. (Unless the customer is on a subscription, and they pick up the older one as they deliver the new one) Disposable packaging is a huge issue, pre-plastic everyone used reusable glass bottles (for milk), or other metal/wood containers, but now everything gets bought and thrown away. Also, the health ramifications of all this cheap plastic packaging, (plastic leeching), when compared to safe glass and steel

[@nicevideomancanada]

They should be fined $3,000,000 like Keurig Canada fined $3 million for misleading claims over coffee pod recycling. In BC they just burn most so called recyclables in incinerators for electricity I have never bought a meal kit.

[@Sarah-eh7bw]

The host’s little boy is such a cutie pie! The meals still look like a lot of prep work to me, not a good balance of time saved vs extra cost for convenience.

[@cococly]

Took me over an hour to mash beans and prepare the meal from "hello fresh", at $27 + taxes for a 2-person meal. I could have just went to food court and get takeaway, less waste on my end too.

[@Sarah-eh7bw]

@@cococly thanks for your testimony. It basically looks like they just deliver a grocery order of ingredients. Even the precut veggies I can get at my local store for a buck or two. Might be helpful if you’re older or disabled and can’t get easily to a store tho.

[@PureVikingPowers]

1:06 He is to old to be in nappies no?

[@ntvonline9480]

We tried one of those meal kits on a free trial. One ingredient was missing and another was spoiled. It’s cheaper to buy items at the market and plan out menus. At least that way you will know who to blame when you are missing the parsley.

[@alisonfraser8231]

I shudder to think of the opportunity for food-borne illness.

[@aketatonge4998]

I use to buy these meal kits but decided to stop just because there was always sooo much plastic. I am right back to the traditional going to the store to get ingredients and cooking.

[@ernestrosenbergrosenberg6153]

I LOVE FAMILIES WHO LOOK LIKE THIS. ALL LOVE❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@nanettemorton4054]

Nice to see families like mine represented

[@yungpandable]

I thought there would be more on this segment… it ended abruptly

[@smokeyarmstrong6341]

We recycle the the GoodFood freezer packs. How? We put them back in the freezer and use them to go camping. I have a bunch to my boss he uses them for the cottage keep his beer cold. A lot of the sauces come in little bottles we keep those for for camping aswell. ReUse ♻️.

[@alisonfraser8231]

Good thinking, but the supply will eventually exceed the demand. Better to NotUse!

[@rosashih1872]

I tried hello fresh once and stopped because of all the packaging. I provided feedback to the company and never heard back...

[@claudia-vp1kd]

I used one of these companies for few weeks, but stopped after a while because I was so concerned about all the plastic

[@CozyOat]

😅 Little Isaiah: "I'm super excited to make food." Too cute! I need some of that excitment when it comes to preparing supper.

[@siyuzhang7867]

I live in Germany and ordered a HelloFresh box once. I realize that they are fewer plastics here in Germany than in Canada. But again, they used tons of other stuff for cooling. Basically, half of the box was filled with those stuff with which I didn't have a clue what to do. Nor were they clear about which bin these things should go to. So I just did not continue to buy those meals, just went to a normal supermarket instead.

[@canadaglennrz]

Our government has to ban this kind of packaging. Period. Costco sells north 65,000,000 rotisserie chickens per year. They also sell millions of cheesecakes, tuxedo cakes. All of these Costco products use black plastic which isn't recyclable in most municipalities across Canada. The solution: use any other colour of plastic. Simple enough, right? Wrong! Costco refuses to do anything about it. I don't buy this. I can't imagine any plastic vendor that wants to lose a Costco contract. IMO, all Costco needs to do is to demand better from their vendors. That's all. Costco to suppliers: give us a non-black plastic option or we are taking our business elsewhere. And if we can't trust Costco to do better then our government has to ban this non-recyclable packaging. For a short while I would buy the rotisserie chicken and cheesecake from Costco and then I would return it to their service desk. They weren't pleased. We all need to speak up about this. Switching plastic packaging colours should not take 75 suits six years to figure out.

[@greeleyestateslove]

Totes agree. We need names of the 75 suits;).

[@greeleyestateslove]

The supplier prob buys tons of stock- it needs to be used up somehow . But yes agree black plastic not detected at a mrf. I don't know the answer besides legislation? 🤷‍♀️

[@sammylee5474]

Some people care a a lot about recycling and that is something to consider when to use these food delivery and these companies are making false claims, so yeah it matters and is worthy of mentioning.

[@deathroll914]

Excellent piece!!!

[@stephsoundsystem914]

Fresh Prep has zero waste packaging - Though I'm not sure if they are outside of the Greater Vancouver Area yet

[@jceeross6763]

I would rather see more investigative journalism focused on the top 100 companies stop targeting these relatively small startups

[@jane-annarmstrong295]

I have tried hello fresh but I have a family of 4 and big eaters … was not enough food and I found it expensive. Much rather just grocery shop and cook normally.

[@jenniferhamaba1509]

Why are you washing a freezer pack down the sink? Put it in the freezer and re-use it.

[@keshiaibbotson9366]

I have tried all three and they were all super delicious. Lots of recipes I wouldn't have even thought of. The only thing I didn't like is it automatically sends a box even if you don't make the order.

[@idmanmoahmed7730]

Yeah they auto send the boxes, even when I canceled they sent me 2 more

[@dannydaw59]

So when you go on vacation for a week there's no way to pause the service?

[@niborselrahc4651]

"I think I am going to write a letter". Does it get more Canadian than that?

[@petiteange08]

I was screaming internally when they just poured that thing down the drain. I didn't need to wait until the reveal to know that it's not biodegradable.

[@freeguy3751]

Oh man, the most shocking part is how companies are allowed to put these false symbols, logos, and claims on their packaging with no oversight or fact-checking. Thank God for Marketplace. Hey MarketPlace, I have a big violator you can add to your list...Evive (Smoothies) delivery boxes... Insane amount of unrecyclable plastic packaging, disguised as environmentally friendly.

[@3386bm]

Thank you guys. I've been telling my wife this for awhile now. She didn't want to watch the entire show lol. Thnaks again

[@khaledawad9741]

What about the cost for families vs going to an actual grocery store... how are they cheaper?

[@SharpLife4]

No difference than grocery store items. Salad kits come in bags. Why care this bad. Most towns don’t even recycle soft plastic at all and a lot of biodegradable breaks down in landfill.

[@danielyeroshalmi7492]

they should send bins to you and every month in the 5th kit send a return box for the packaging to be sent to a recycling company for them.

[@Liz_Dave]

I know that freshprep has reusable container and cooler bag that get sent back when they drop off the next week's order.

[@primary4075]

just watch "Plastic Wars" by PBS x NPR for why so many "recyclable" plastic

[@AL3XQUEST]

why dont they look at the Dutch system.. it start with all plastic bottle and later this year on can too.. we pay when we buy a deposit of €0.10 €0.15 or €0.25 cents per bottle and we get that money back when we return it to the stores. and it works. also in some other European countries they have deposits on milk packages and such too. take a look at at.

[@timlocke3159]

Taste is important but which is healthiest?

[@tanyasobsessions2131]

everyone's different when it comes to what's healthy so it'd be no use in talking about that on a tv show i feel.

[@aprilchamberlain1677]

I don't use those kinds of things but the recycling part of it caught my attention. I have lived in my 2bdrm apartment for 19yrs & always have a dumpster so never thought of recycling, until my mom wanted to take stuff to the bins and I realized how easy it was to recycle. Since she wants me to take her & I am going I have been taking what I can & recycling it. My biggest problem with it is not everything is recyclable even though it says it can be recycled but that's not the case. It's very frustrating when you want to try and help the environment and make it a better place for future generations but you don't know if it can be recycled in "your area." That's my biggest problem with it, some stuff is not recyclable in my area. Anyway thanks for sharing this video!! Hopefully one day recycling will be just part of every day life for everyone!!!

[@MONi_LALA]

I love to cook and want to try them. And then I saw Charlie's video on diy soap. He roasted them on how is something good for the environment if you have to deliver them in plastic containers.

[@BlueHeron654]

I called hello fresh and they use msg in some mixes.

[@RotaryTeamVincent]

People need to start returning the non-recycle packaging back to their vendors.

[@TheMedraut]

I am sure indonesia loves the illusion of recycling you are perpetuating

[@naomibernard9251]

Isaiah is super cute. What a big helper in the kitchen. Keep up the great cooking chefs!!

[@krylesangerbeaver]

Electric cooled vehicles won't help if they deliver at 9am and you get home at 6pm

[@alisonfraser8231]

The porch pirates said it's delicious!

[@DonCharmingdude]

Where i live small industries buy plastics to replace cooking gas,and boy are the plastics rare to come by im sure if shipping is cheaper we would import the plastic packaging. one man's trash is another man's treasure

[@matlepak9694]

The plastics are the main reason you can't trust these companies with their other claims

[@randomrazr]

do the meals turn outgood?

[@Liverpoolboy01]

They cut down on food waste, you are getting a lot less for your money !

[@lucasdacosta3835]

Love this!!

[@jasonv6319]

How come they dont use silicone containers?

[@raajajagan]

They are damn expensive

[@cg7926]

I stop buying those cause of the plastic package😥they do have lot of different way u can wrap fruit n vege.

[@thatguy5801]

Its only 100% recyclable if it actually gets recycled, which it does not. I personally like to throw my trash and plastic straight into the Ocean where it gets broken down naturally by currents and sea salts.

[@ToudaHell]

Can you test if the meal kits are worth the money? And which one is the most cost effective? thank you.

[@Mstitelful]

I like the very style of people and their credo "I love to cook, but I don't know how and don't want to learn". The presence of such a sky does not mean that a person can cook a restaurant-level dish from it.

[@cg7926]

That why I stop ordering from them

[@karlwashington6414]

CBC is my favorite news source. Lots of informative insightful and great information

[@gracemir2]

Recycling industry said most of plastic bags and plastic containers for food are not recyclable although the package says recyclable. Milk cartons and Tide plastic containers are the easiest to recycle but plastic kinds of items are not profitable to recycle.

[@richardabraham8384]

What about the foil lined cardboard?

[@feywerfolevado6286]

I have never liked these meal delivery services. Because they continuously push it on us through advertising to buy into it. And how wasteful. Hasn’t anyone just gone to the grocery store?

[@cindygiesbrecht3146]

That's why I use Spud grocery delivery. Much less plastic packagings

[@dillsimmons]

I mean your paying for fresh groceries delieved to your home, it has to be packaged or you would complain about that.

[@alexknegtt]

"I think that I will write a letter."

[@shellghost]

@06:23 Byatch..!! Why can you cook you own food instead..”I’m gonna write a letter” 🙄

[@rochellejohnson5534]

My is Rochelle Johnson I used to work for good food company everything that is put inside any good food meal kits are weighed for every individual ingredient right down to the sauces spices and every fruit vegetable and every part of the packaging every meal that is made through good food weighed it's of the process

[@stephaniefgeary]

I think FreshPrep may be a better option in terms of the environment. Especially since they offer vegan meals.

[@greeleyestateslove]

The woman is right about the crinkly flexible plastic . thats likely PP. trash. Does not belong in any recycling bin except PRIVATE companies like terracycle.

[@happycook6737]

People need a meal kit? 🤪 Try Dining on a Dime for easy, cheap recipes or just about any website out there. Meal kits are almost the biggest money waster out there. Eating out is the worst money waster. In my family we have a 2 week repetitive menu of inexpensive recipes. Very easy, healthy, and cheap.

[@rhddfgdfdrgd]

but did you involve any kind of government to solve the miss leading

[@FairyPodcaster]

I was expecting more. WAY MORE information.

[@mikefraser6931]

Not much of a comparison when Hello Fresh owns Chefs Plate... LOL

[@tanyasobsessions2131]

taste is subjective so the last few mins are POINTLESS! could've filled it up with other footage or info in my opinion.

[@ilovstodance]

LOOK INTO MEAT DELVERY,S FOR HOME MEALS

[@dannydaw59]

Having 100% biodegradable packaging that can go strait to the landfill would be nice. No sorting needed: just throw it in the regular trash.

[@greeleyestateslove]

I think you might need to research how biodegradation works. It takes chemical reactions in soil. That type of required environment simply doesn't exist in a landfill. I don't think it ever will based on that, but I like your idea.

[@bboytwisty]

How about end your subscription and go buy your own grocery at a store

[@semco72057]

I am using a home delivery service and considering dropping them because of the increased use of thinner plastic material which can't be recycled. Some of those families will be looking at other alternatives and saving money in the process.

[@j.c.nightwalker5322]

Buy an instapot

[@rexxx927]

crunchy is HDPE silly do you know this...?

[@ahotdj07]

@1:09 Ryan is a little cutie!

[@8910d]

The plastic is why I don't order these.

[@MatthewFordVictoria]

Try following what Chinese Restaurants use! THEIR take-out containers are made of Aluminum Foil (which can be crushed just like tin cans) and covered with a Cardboard Paper Lid which we all know can be recycled and used to make Cardboard Boxes!

[@rexxx927]

it is not effective to recycle inked plastics it is not valued with ink in look at your pictures here

[@kehidupankanada]

🧐🙁😳😲meal delivery!!?? Its so so wastage of plastic n packaging.

[@boricuamom87]

I never was interested is using this and now im really not.

[@charlesmurphy1510]

Army C rations deluxe.

[@PureVikingPowers]

1:06 He is to old to be in nappies no?

[@alisonfraser8231]

What business is this of yours? Stick to the topic not personal remarks.

[@FloodPower]

incredible diversity!

[@rexxx927]

plastic is not the problem its ink and people

[@AnneBeamish]

I cancelled a subscription because of those cold packs. Fine if they want to get rid of them, but what about a box that's left out for hours? They are playing with people's health. More regulations are needed for use of packaging.

[@freddybee4029]

The ultimate choice for lazy shoppers

[@25784lazza]

People say they want recyclable and biodegradable but the real question is are they wiling to put up with the cost rises that inevitably comes with that type of packaging?

[@joepatroni8777]

How about buying and cutting your own onions etc...Lazy polluting people! Market Place is getting worse and worse

[@SharpLife4]

Shut down dollar stores if you care and make companies like Apple be accountable. Their stuff has expire dates for all lector it’s. My iPad from 2012 doesn’t work yet looks fine. My Apple TV that cost more than google chrome cast also doesn’t work That’s wheee the real issues are. New fridge took 3 to get one working one. Companies sent new ones over repair.

[@Uppereastsidecatnap]

Everything must Go ♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️🙌🏾

[@nicevideomancanada]

Good Food is Greenwashing. Fine them $3 million.

[@teamallyracing1780]

Whyy not just buy fresh produce yourself ,these kits are most expensive, like how lazy do you have to be and dont tell abt busy