Do Muslims Worship the Same God? W/ Derya Little

I talk with Derya Little about Islam and whether God the Father is the same as Allah. She responds with first hand insight, and shares a thoughtful take on the treatment and evangelization of Muslims.
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[@TheNostalgicKitchen]

Having been raised in a Muslim family and having experienced both religions I would be happy to sign with my blood the statement that we absolutely do not worship the same God! What an insult to the Holy Trinity to even assume such a thing!

[@Blissblizzard]

Thankyou and bless you, and jibril is not the Angel Gabriel of the annunciation, it was a no name unknown entity, that choked him. Others named it jibril (our Gabriel) and did so to insult Mary, Jesus Christ, and the TRINITY.

[@inspirepeace2547]

As a ex Muslim who is a believing Christian now i disagree with you

[@inspirepeace2547]

@@Blissblizzard where are you getting this? Have you ever read the Quran. Have you had conversations with Muslims?

[@Blissblizzard]

@@inspirepeace2547 Dunning Kruger, you don't know what you don't know, you don't even Google it! Where to even start with you ...

[@inspirepeace2547]

@@Blissblizzard you have pride in your heart but that's alright I'll pray for you. And no matter our differences Muslims and Christians have a lot in common but your prejudices will not allow you to see them. I love you because He loves you there's no room for hate where there is love please remember that. We must do for others what Christ has done for us. To love and teach others with kindness and servitude.

[@AJ_Jingco]

As a cradle Catholic I LEARNED Catholic theology on KZbin.

[@Blissblizzard]

Same, went to Catholic school with a Catholic History Teacher who taught the protestant reformation! and didn't learn the Rosary ..... the Catechism..... in other words this is an old old problem so we need to get to it!

[@marce.goodnews]

Read the Cathecism of the Council of Trent. Available online ❤️

[@Featherfinder]

@@Blissblizzard Absolutely. I’m 56 and was sooo woefully ignorant about the faith despite having two devout parents. I feel like it’s practically a miracle that I came back and really embraced the Church because I was a liberal Democrat before and I thought I knew it all (so humbling, wow.Pink cheeks! Lol). Hearing from the amazing souls in the Courage apostolate did a great deal to square away my main objections. And learning about the Shroud of Turin from Barry Schwortz made me believe again in the Resurrection. Or at least really solidified by belief.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@Featherfinder Reading statistics about how depressed teenagers are, and nobody makes the connection that they are suffering from spiritual loneliness, that's really sad, but it is also spur to show everyone that Catholicism is the norm, and secular lifestyles are pale copies of true peace of mind. Bless you and your path.

[@Featherfinder]

@@Blissblizzard I think you are absolutely spot on, and we’ll said. Thank you , Wholly Profit, and I wish you the same.

[@jacksoncastelino04]

We do not worship same God

[@asiyaabda7495]

If you’re monotheistic it’s illogical to suggest we don’t. We may have different concepts of God but to say it’s a different God is to admit there is more than 1

[@mahirmax6989]

Yes

[@sealoftheliving4998]

Not the same God. Christianity God is One Truine God, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh to die for our sins and save the World. Islam God is Lucifer who deceives the whole World. Moon God. Can you see the way they kill people they praise their false god? When the Warning and Miracle comes. CATHOLIC WILL RECOGNIZE TO ALL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. They will look for a Priest to confess their sins.

[@asiyaabda7495]

@@elvisisacs3955 even if you believe that it doesn’t meant that they worship a different God, because that would necessitate the existence of more than one. We have different conceptualizations of God but it doesn’t change God’s nature.

[@domhamai]

We worship the same God. Some people call Christians polytheists, but it is not polytheism; it is a corruption of monotheism. The thing they often don’t seem to understand is that the indivisibility of a monotheistic God logically invalidates any argument for the trinity.

[@xavier.abraham]

That's a loaded question in the first place. It needs an honest and truthful answer, and we need distinguish between ignorance of a non believer, willful worship of a wrong deity, and the Islamic writings which contradict the Triunne God, etc.

[@observerzz]

The Honest Truth is : The Christians and the Muslims, do actually worship the same God for God is One without a second. But it is the Christians who has the 'perverted view of God, the reason why God had to send the Last Prophet, once and for all, to set things strait, to the whole world. And I strongly believe, if it's not for the 'Trinity and its components by which, " Jesus, a man accredited with wonders and miracles which God did through him"(Acts 2:22) was made into a 'god', there won't have been a need for the One True God to send His Last Prophet and Messenger, Muhammad (pbuh) to the world.

[@johnzuma4688]

@@observerzz We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba because Mohammed’s allah commanded Mohammed to do so. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place where pagans worshipped some 360 idol gods at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob would never have commanded or even condoned that one of His prophets would bow down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? All we know for certain is, that Mohammed’s allah is not our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible.

[@observerzz]

@@johnzuma4688 Yes. Allah is certainly not the ONE TRUE imaginary, man made GOD of the Bible. Allah is the ONE TRUE GOD of the Universe. "Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory)." (Quran 2: 255) And don't you know that God don't live in houses built by men? The Kaaba is merely the the centre/direction of focus for the muslims when praying, regardless where the Muslims are arround the world.So its merely the choice of direction and Allah, the prophet and we Muslims know that there is no God except Allah, regardless of where. Idols are merely idols and nothing. What matters is simply what is in the heart and mind of the Muslims when we pray. We pray only to Allah for He is the One True God.

[@johnzuma4688]

@@observerzz Thank you for your comment my friend. You say >> Allah is certainly not the ONE TRUE imaginary, man made GOD of the Bible.

[@mvj1153]

@@johnzuma4688 Amen Brother.

[@tMatt5M]

Short answer is no. Long answer is absolutely not.

[@Monotheist137]

It is the same. In arabic Allah means God, Arabic christians use the same word.

[@PepeTheToad]

Thats a word concept falacy, because we used the same language doesn't mean we are refferering the same thing. For example, if we both say "mother" it doesn't follow from this that our mother is the same.

[@jaja9081]

LAH is not God and is the Name of a false pagan arabic moongod. The god of the "new-moon" (☪️) He has NO Spirit He has 2 right hands, A shin, more then one eye And 3daughtes (al-LAT, al-Manat, al-uzza) al-LAT is the Black Stone in a shape of a vagnia they *have to* kiss in a ordert Ritual to get their sin soaked in.

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

@@Monotheist137 By the same logic, Christians worship the same god as the ancient Romans, because they used the word "Deus". By the same logic, Christians worship the same as the ancient Germanics, from whom English inherits the name "God"

[@greatpretender83]

Short answer: NO.

[@trnslash]

refer Catechism of the Catholic Church 841. Cheers!

[@awesomemccoolname7111]

Long answer, nooooooooooo.

[@awesomemccoolname7111]

@@mickqQ not even close to being the correct answer. Even if you don't believe in God it's still not right.

[@chommie5350]

@@awesomemccoolname7111 satanic verses and all that Satan whispered in Muhammad's ear choked him 3 times and got him to come up with the Quran in opposition to the Torah and bible ......the above is even in their own Muslim sources Surah 5:68 Say, “O people of the Book, you have nothing to stand on, unless you uphold the Torah and the Injīl and what has been sent down to you from your Lord.” What has been sent down to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them more persistent in rebellion and disbelief. So, do not grieve over the disbelieving people Injiil = ( gospel)

[@awesomemccoolname7111]

@@chommie5350 preaching to the choir here, brother.

[@asgerdk]

Its an important point on evangelism and the theology.

[@tiffany_shimizu]

In the Qur'an, Jesus never died and He never resurrected. Therefore no, we as Christians technically do not believe in the same god/deity with our Muslim brothers and sisters. Qur'an 4: 157-158 -- They [the Jews] said, "We killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah" -- But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them. And those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow. For a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up to Himself. Wise. So going by the logic of this verse, if Jesus never actually died nor was resurrected from the dead, it would make Christianity and its whole entirety, a big lie, a sham, a falsehood. Therefore I can respectfully say No. We Christians (be Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox) do not believe in the same god with our Muslim brothers and sisters.

[@michaeljones7465]

If Jesus died on the cross, he could not return to Earth, so it is the same god.

[@jamesmaher1989]

They are not our brothers and sisters in Christ becsuse they put Mohammed above Jesus the Word made flesh and falsely claim the Bible was corrupted. It wasn't as the Dead Sea Scrolls prove.

[@supremeleadersmeagol6345]

By that logic, do we not worship the same God as the Jews?

[@rcbmmines4579]

@@supremeleadersmeagol6345 The difference is they rejected the messiah, who came not to destroy their laws or contradict their word but to fulfill it. We Christians believe that the New Testament completes the Old. The first Christians were Jewish and there are Jewish Christians today. The Muslims on the other hand directly go against the our beliefs and they are impossible to reconcile.

[@DarkAngel-cj6sx]

I don't even why you are calling them your brothers and sisters because clearly Mohammad didn't think so.

[@lovelandfrog5692]

Short answer: No.

[@AeipathyOfAprill]

May I ask where she is from? I love her accent haha

[@trudy-annbrown3650]

She is Turkish!

[@jeanmarielouis7839]

Christians and muslims do not worship the same GOD. The ALMIGHTY of the Christians is Perfect, Magnanimous, full of Compassion and Forgiveness, Peaceful, Harmonious, Love oriented, favours Fraternity and Respect among mankind.

[@r.c4914]

No not the same God . 🗣I belive the Holy spirit the" lord" clarify that to me couple yrs back. 👉 1 John 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

[@ceciliahernandez9517]

Its easy for some to judge and call people evil because they are of a different religion. I think that since that's the religion they were born into and may have not been evangelized they are just trying to seek God from what they were taught. I put myself in their shoes and its tough. As Christians we need to set a good example and be the light of the world. We go to mass and receive the eucharist yet we might not reflect it in our daily lives. As soon as we leave the parking lot we don't act Christian like. How can we bring others to our faith if they don't see good fruit?

[@Schöpf_at]

Tell that to Muslims in Pakistan, Afghanistan & Iraq. I've been living in two Islamic countries due to my previous job so i need no one to school me about Islam, it's evil & demonic. Plus, you need to Google the mystery behind the 666 revealed by our Lady to Fr. Stefano Gobbi & guess what; Islam is no.1 on the hit list (first 6 of 666).

[@collectiveconsciousness5314]

Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus.

[@awesomemccoolname7111]

I might not call muslims evil, but I will ALWAYS call islam evil.

[@AJ_Jingco]

@@EB-jp8jk That is also TRUE in most Catholic parishes.

[@hamie7624]

@@EB-jp8jk dont project. The teaching of the Catholic Church is objectively true. Come back to the Church so you can go to Heaven.

[@mohammadabdo5735]

Matt i highly encourage you to host an ex-muslim called Brother Rachid, he is a strong Christian apologist who comes from a dedicated muslim family and he has a deep knowledge and understanding of islam

[@elkegloeggler]

Allah is not a personal god like the Christian God. He has 99 names but not one of them is Love or Father.

[@ryanvb3452]

So God is male and hence bound to gender according to Christian theology?

[@michaeljones7465]

That's because God is not the father of Jesus.

[@rextheroyalist6389]

Ryan V B it's more like his traits lean in the direction of masculine and he is the progenitor to us and our moral rule giver therefore he's a masculine parent, or in other words a father.

[@thethreefriends3002]

@@ryanvb3452 god doesn't have a body, so he's neither male nor female, but our relationship with him is like that of a loving father

[@ryanvb3452]

@@thethreefriends3002 And what are the traits of a loving father? As this varies from culture to culture.

[@davekargol]

Discovered this video after finding (and being fairly disturbed by) some of the second Vatican council’s teachings on Islam. I feel like I understand the attempt at diplomacy, and the will to recognize the good in Islam out of charity. But seems to me, like it goes too far in the way of almost universalism. Going to investigate this further.

[@luked7956]

Are you talking about how Nostra Aetate 3 says "They adore the one god...creator of the universe" and Lumen Gentium 16 says they "together with us adore the one merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day "?

[@PintsWithAquinas]

What do you think, folks? Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? Try to be detailed in your explanation as opposed to dismissive.

[@ConciseCabbage]

Matt Fradd - I apologize for dismissive sounding comments. I just wanted to get my thought out before it got buried. Essentially, I think the logic of Aquinas does lead one to believe that all monotheisms are the same, but I find Aquinas to be woefully mistaken in his conception of the Christian God because of this. And Islam is a Christian heresy. Knowing this alone will help to clear up confusion in regards to Muslims imo.

[@trnslash]

Muslims are monotheistic, this means they worship the one God as do Catholics. It is their understanding of God that is flawed, just as the Protestant understanding is flawed compared to Catholics. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explicitly affirms this, refer to CCC 841. Allah is the Arabic word for God, you'll hear Arab Christians use exactly the same word to refer to God.

[@trnslash]

@@jeffersonvelasco8947 You are mistaken my friend, you are going against the teaching of the Catholic Church if you say that. Please refer to the official teaching of the Catholic Church CCC 841 - "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day." There is an excellent article by Tim Staples if you do a simple Google search on this topic. That succinctly explains it.

[@trnslash]

@@Hello-ro8fq The pope is incapable of preaching heresy, the Holy Spirit guarantees it. That doesn't meanhe is incapable of sin, you are mixing it up friend

[@joehouston2833]

@@trnslash Mohammed stole scriptures from the Torah.. His downfall was, his ignorance because muslims believe the father of Abraham is Azar (the foolish one) and the father of Moses is imraan.. they also believe Moses is the uncle of a different Messiah named Isa who is the son of Miriam.. (Apparently Miriam, Moses sister was also a virgin according to muslims).. Everything in islam is deception & false..

[@C0MMuN15t-i3x]

jews and muslims may pray to the same god but for christians it is totally different they believe that God became human

[@rickintexas1584]

Great insight into Islam. Careful reading of the Quran definitely shows that Allah is not the same as God if the Bible.

[@michaeljones7465]

It is the same god.

[@rickintexas1584]

@@michaeljones7465 - sorry, Michael, but it is clearly not the same God. The Qur'an is very clear that Jesus did not die on the cross, nor did he rise on the 3rd day. Muhammad made the claim that he was from the same line of prophets as the "people of the book". But his denial of Jesus divinity and resurrection clearly proves that he was not a true prophet of God.

[@michaeljones7465]

@@rickintexas1584 If Jesus died on the cross, he could not return, so it is the same god.

[@paigeburns4362]

Michael Jones i don’t think you understand how Christianity works

[@billkolb1305]

Think about how this idea from the New Catechism of the Catholic Church contradict the Apostles Creed… Muslims and Catholics- “together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” Meanwhile, when praying the Rosary the Apostles Creed states who is coming to judge the living and the dead? Jesus Christ “He (Christ) ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.” Considering Muslims don’t believe Jesus is God. They don’t believe Jesus will come to judge the living and the dead as the Creed states. Therefore the Catechism of the Catholic Church contradicts the Apostles Creed and No, Catholics do not worship the same God.

[@mikeylejan8849]

We do not worship the same God. The Quran erroneous mentions that the trinity is Mary, Jesus and the Father which is obviously wrong.

[@abulkhansaa906]

That’s not what we believe about the trinity although in fairness I see where the confusion has come. In Islām, giving people certain attributes or directing to them certain action which is meant for God alone is seen as polytheism and taking them as “gods”, whether or not this is the intention of the person. For example, if I were to call upon the Prophet Moses for intercession or to fulfil some of my needs, this would be considered polytheism and taking him as a “god” besides the one true God. I understand this isn’t the understanding held in Catholicism but it is the Islamic understanding. As such, in our view, Catholics, Orthodox and most other Christians hold views regarding Mary that we would call “taking her as a god besides Allāh.” by virtue of the commonly read prayer “Hail Mary” and referring to her as the “Mother of God”.

[@mikeylejan8849]

@@abulkhansaa906 catholics, orthodox and most protestants do not believe that Mary is part of the Trinity. Intercession does not mean worship. You are using the Islamic view, it does not mean anything, if you want to learn Christianity then get the christian view.

[@abulkhansaa906]

@@mikeylejan8849 Yes. I know that no Christian claims that Mary is part of the Trinity, I’m saying that the Quran doesn’t claim that Mary is part of the Trinity and therefore incorrect, I’m saying that in OUR religion, seeking intercession is considered a form of Polytheism and therefore one who does so with Mary would be considered to be taking her as a God. Intercession is not considered to be idolatry in Catholicism and so that’s where the misunderstanding of the Quranic verse has come from. We have different understandings of God and of worship so it’s important to understand the others position if we wish to comment on perceived inconsistencies.

[@mikeylejan8849]

@@abulkhansaa906 I understand that, but it should haven’t mentioned that Mary is part of the Trinity.

[@abulkhansaa906]

@@mikeylejan8849 it doesn’t say that Mary is part of the Trinity, it says that 1. Christians believe in the Trinity. 2. Christians worship Mary alongside God. The first is true from both perspectives and the second only from ours given our definition of what is worship.

[@AlejandroDeLaRosa05]

Simple answer: absolutely not

[@Mach15-20]

It’s the same God but different understanding.

[@kimberlytorio8177]

What is an example of an "authentic Christian community"? Is there an example at a macro-level?

[@pinoysarisari7374]

monogamy in christianity is the beginning of equality for women....The Ban of Christianity against very close relation cousins from marrying also contributed the development of Free Market economy because now, Christians are forced to go out there and learn business and find a wife instead of getting a wife within your relatives....Because there is free market, prosperity came and Science emerged...

[@asiyaabda7495]

The Pope has affirmed that Muslims and Catholics and worship the same God. Can you explain why you disagree? Especially given that, if you as a monotheist suggest that Muslims worship a different god, it is equivalent to asserting that more than one God exists.

[@asiyaabda7495]

@@Kyrana4102 can you clarify what you mean? First part: a monotheist claims that Muslims worship a different God. Second part: that assertion entails the existence of another God. My point is that that for a monotheistic believer to make that assertion, it nullifies their monotheism, since logically 2 Gods cannot exist at the same time under a monotheistic framework. As a monotheist myself, it’s neither logical nor in line with my faith dogma to suggest that anyone worships a different God. It’s more correct to say instead that while our concepts of God can differ greatly, the nature of God’s Oneness is the same. We necessarily worship the same Being since there is only 1 God to worship

[@Blissblizzard]

@@asiyaabda7495 But lslam says the bible is corrupted and the real bible and the q'ran came first. But you don't tell ppl that right away do you, you set a trap. and then keep moving the goal posts. just stop.

[@t0m_x011]

@@asiyaabda7495 The other option from saying that the god Muslims worship is not the same as the Christians is that we both hold to strict monotheism therefore someone is worshiping nothing while the other is actually worshiping God

[@__Man_]

​@Asiya Abda You're misunderstanding what we mean when we say Muslims worship another God. We mean that their God is fake, imaginative, and the fake God conceived by Muslims isn't the same as the one true God. We are not saying that their God is real, but still different than ours, we are saying that their God is fake. You are misunderstanding Pope(s).

[@consecratedsoul]

Psalm 96:5 ''For all the gods of the peoples are WORTHLESS idols, but the Lord made the heavens.'' Galatians 1:8 ''But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.'' One Church, One Gospel, Only One Savior.

[@m.e4752]

0:49 💯 Truth 🔥

[@trudy-annbrown3650]

My question is then why did the catechism say that Muslims and Christians worship the same God? There are some Catholics who believe also that Christians and Muslims worship the same God! I disagree.

[@albertoascari2542]

Islam doesnt recognise Jesus as the Messiah. It has completly different set of rules its at odds with the Christian bible and Christs teaching. It doesnt recognise the ten commandments at all. Its laws are not the same. Jesus offers redemption from sin, healing and love. He calls us to love our neighbour, not to covet, steal or lie.Not meaning to be critical of Islam. Its like saying Buddah or Shiva, Neptune are the Messaiah Jesus.Even Judaism is very different we have the old testament but after Jesus we have an whole new dimension to God. There are mamy good teachings in other religions and philosophies but they are not of Jesus

[@cocococo8081]

No, we do actually recognise Jesus Christ PBUH to be the Messiah. And we beleive in the second coming of Jesus Christ.

[@kilemyers784]

@@cocococo8081 No you reconize a false messiah named Īsā ibn Maryam a psychotic impotent imposter who is Not the LORD Jesus Christ. Here is the biblical Jesus Christ John 13:1-38 NKJV [1] Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end. [2] And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray Him, [3] Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come from God and was going to God, [4] rose from supper and laid aside His garments, took a towel and girded Himself. [5] After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded. [6] Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, "Lord, are You washing my feet?" [7] Jesus answered and said to him, "What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this." [8] Peter said to Him, "You shall never wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me." [9] Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!" [10] Jesus said to him, "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you." [11] For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, "You are not all clean." [12] So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? [13] You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. [14] If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. [15] For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. [16] Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. [17] If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them. [18] "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'He who eats bread with Me has lifted up his heel against Me.' [19] Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I am He. [20] Most assuredly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me." [21] When Jesus had said these things, He was troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, one of you will betray Me." [22] Then the disciples looked at one another, perplexed about whom He spoke. [23] Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. [24] Simon Peter therefore motioned to him to ask who it was of whom He spoke. [25] Then, leaning back on Jesus' breast, he said to Him, "Lord, who is it?" [26] Jesus answered, "It is he to whom I shall give a piece of bread when I have dipped it." And having dipped the bread, He gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. [27] Now after the piece of bread, Satan entered him. Then Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly." [28] But no one at the table knew for what reason He said this to him. [29] For some thought, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus had said to him, "Buy those things we need for the feast," or that he should give something to the poor. [30] Having received the piece of bread, he then went out immediately. And it was night. [31] So, when he had gone out, Jesus said, "Now the Son of Man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him. [32] If God is glorified in Him, God will also glorify Him in Himself, and glorify Him immediately. [33] Little children, I shall be with you a little while longer. You will seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, 'Where I am going, you cannot come,' so now I say to you. [34] A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. [35] By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." [36] Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, where are You going?" Jesus answered him, "Where I am going you cannot follow Me now, but you shall follow Me afterward." [37] Peter said to Him, "Lord, why can I not follow You now? I will lay down my life for Your sake." [38] Jesus answered him, "Will you lay down your life for My sake? Most assuredly, I say to you, the rooster shall not crow till you have denied Me three times. John 14:6-21 NKJV [6] Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. [7] "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." [8] Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." [9] Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? [10] Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. [11] Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. [12] "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. [13] And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. [14] If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. [15] "If you love Me, keep My commandments. [16] And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- [17] the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. [18] I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. [19] "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. [20] At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. [21] He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."

[@jonson856]

They do believe that Jesus is the Messiah. However, they don't know the meaning of it.

[@rorynicholson8558]

@@cocococo8081 You really have no idea what you believe....your Qur'an is so mixed up it both affirms the authority, inspiration and preservation of our Bible and yet it also contradicts the message of the Bible at the same time. Why didn't Allah know that Jesus's mother Mary was not and never has been part of the Christian Trinity? Surely your all knowing Allah should know?!

[@davidjanbaz7728]

@juleous camper the Rabbinics rejected the Two Powers in Heaven theology in the 2nd century AD because it supported Christianity's claims that Jesus was saying that He is God, the visible YHWH of Genesis 19:24. That talked to Abraham and Sarah along with the two Angels chs: 18,19.

[@earthspirit516]

A Loving Father would never damn any child for all eternity. He would be more compassionate than an earthly father. God is beyond the concept of time, outside of it and independent. He waits patiently for all Creation to return to His Care, even if it takes the soul innumerable lifetimes.

[@umidazimi3706]

Collyridianism was a sect in early Christianity that did worship Mary explicitly, but it not entirely unclear that Catholics don’t worship her, especially the Mother of God title, and the Iconography.

[@luxither7354]

Dulia, Hyperdulia & Latria. Praise, high praise and worship. We praise the Saints, we praise Mary to a heightened degree, and worship God. The reason why we have 'Hyperdulia' for Mary is because she literally the best of us, bar Jesus himself. She gave birth to Jesus, bearing God himself in her womb. She was conceived without sin, and unlike Adam and Eve, stayed faithful to God till her death, which she died sinless. Its like how people idolise Kings and Queens in medieval times, or how Caesar was idolised by the Romans, except unlike all of those people, who may have been flawed, Mary is flawless. She gives us the ultimate model of receiving the Lord. But, fundamentally, she's not God. The gap between all other saints and Mary is large, simply because of her existence as the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven, but the Gap between God and her is infinite.

[@yann4601]

Saint John Damascus (an Arab from Syria and precisely one of the first Christians to ever confront Muslim teachings) has great images to help visualize Trinity and make it not that absurd after all to zealous monotheistic Muslims: the Father is like the Sun, the Son is like a ray of the sun, and the Holy Ghost is like the heat of the sun. Or: the Father is like a spring, the Son is the river and the Holy Ghost is the ocean.

[@jellees]

Isn't this arianism?

[@yann4601]

@@jellees I see why one might say that. But note these are only images used for apologetic purposes and meant to show Muslims for whom Trinity sounded absurd that Trinity actually makes sense. This is not a Creed.

[@jonathanrowe8616]

Jewish believers don't believe in the Trinity either. Nor do Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, biblical unitarians. Either they all worship the same God or all worship different gods. Consistency is important.

[@trnslash]

finally, someone with logic!

[@teddymeister95]

it doesn't stop there tbh. even among Catholics you'd find different interpretations and thought processes. and this applies to Muslims too. nothing is black and white really.

[@Blissblizzard]

Heard of Asherah? but why should we even care?

[@trnslash]

Hi Matt, would you consider getting Dr. E. Michael Jones on your show? Patrick Coffin has had him over for his show at least 4 times now!

[@BradleyKisia]

Do Jews worship the same God? Did David worship the same God? Did Moses worship the same God?

[@arnoeeuwigheid4499]

YES! However, NOT the muslims!

[@BradleyKisia]

@@arnoeeuwigheid4499 read your catechism. They do... the God they worship is an Almighty God who is one... that is the same God. Sorry, but your intentions to be special in your faith doesn't work. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are all faiths the come from Abraham - as mentioned every Easter Sunday at mass during the vigil mass.

[@arnoeeuwigheid4499]

@@BradleyKisia @Bradley Kisia Allah was a MOON god and one of many who were worshipped by the Hindus in Mecca, which might be the reason for the image of the crescent moon. Some religious activities like Ramadan and praying 5 times a day were used before that time by the Sabians. By the way, Muhammed in one Hadith, was described as a Sabian. Islam also "borrowed" other "gods" like the 3 daughters of Allah to appease the Meccans to get them to convert - for a short while. In short, NOTHING is original in Islam, only ONE thing: Its followers were the FIRST to invent the COPY-PASTE technique and actually applied it, which can be considered unique in those days. Islam's interpretation of Adam's life is just a fairytale as the "history" of this "religion" as a whole and its denominations were copied from the Jewish and Christian religions. To create the Qur'an, their so called "Islamic bible" they took not only parts from the Torah and gospel, but also from other texts that were NOT accepted by Christians as true (e.g. gospel of Thomas). Moreover many bad mistakes were made e.g. by stating that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Aaron (brother of Moses - who lived hundreds of years earlier). Shame on you to consider this pagan religion equal to the Christian religion and denominations. If you love and respect Islam so much, it might be the perfect religion for YOU as muslims consider lying a superior virtue! Enjoy!!!

[@__Man_]

​@@BradleyKisia the Muslims don't legitimately come from Abraham, they only profess to. The links between them are imaginary. Muhammad came with the Quran, a supposed revelation, and states without evidence that he was bringing the faith of Abraham. The Catechism only says that the Muslims profess to worship the same God, not that they actually do worship the same God in truth.

[@BradleyKisia]

@@__Man_ where did I say they come from Abraham? Though they are more related to him than you are...

[@petars4444]

Matt, read Nabeel Qureshi`s book on this subject, he is christian convert.

[@pokya-anakrantau8845]

Why then many Arabic-speaking Christians who belong to the Eastern Churches (Oriental - Coptic and Eastern Orthodox as well as Byzantine Uniates like Melkites) actually use the term "Allah" to refer to God in their liturgies when celebrated in the Arabic. Also "Allah" is used in the Indonesian and Malay translations of the Bible, to which ironically opposed by majority of Muslims in Malaysia? Miroslav Volf has an interesting view on the topic "Allah"

[@cocococo8081]

He's an ahmadi, they beleive that Jesus Christ PBUH died in India.

[@timebank1949]

@@pokya-anakrantau8845 I thought that "Allah" is rather the arabic translation for the word "God" than the denomination of the god of Islam. Therefore, it is a linguistic question and not a theologian one. I mean it in the same sense that Mormons / Jehovah's Witnesses say in English all the time "God" in reference to their god eventhough it is not God (= YHWH). EDIT: I admit that from a non-Arabic speaking person's point of view it seems confusing. But try to understand that the catholic Arabs also have the name of the Triune God (YHWH) and an Arabic word for the word "God". At least, this is the explanation that I heard always from catholic Arabs. May God bless you, St. Virgin Mary pray for you and St. Joseph protect you.

[@petars4444]

@@cocococo8081 that doesnt matter. Shia sunni ahmadi irs no important. He believed in quran and muhamad and followed most of their teachings and was against christianity. And i know sunni muslims that believed he died in indiA. That is of no importance.

[@cocococo8081]

@@petars4444 No it is important. Ahmadis believe a prophet came after the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, but the Qur'an in Surah 33 Verse 40 says that Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the seal of the prophets. So it does go against the Qur'an and therefore Islam.

[@johnzuma4688]

Matthew 28:19-20 English Standard Version >> 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

[@barbarasmith5353]

No their god is different than our creator God who is love, God provided for our salvation in Jesus who is God the Son

[@hkyoyo]

So your God, who ordered the killing of innocent young boys, women and elderly, and encouraged the pillaging and enslavement of virgin girls... is a God of love? And this same God, sent himself disguised as his son, to kill himself to save humanity from itself, and then resurrected himself as if nothing happened. This crap makes sense to you? Riiiiiight

[@sarahjones79]

Problem is they will not acknowledge the resurrection which is the crux of our gospel - their answer is that our scripture has been corrupted - what do you say to that?

[@hussainashraf5179]

hey sarah how are you?

[@pokya-anakrantau8845]

Why then many Arabic-speaking Christians who belong to the Eastern Churches (Oriental - Coptic and Eastern Orthodox as well as Byzantine Uniates like Melkites) actually use the term "Allah" to refer to God in their liturgies when celebrated in the Arabic. Also "Allah" is used in the Indonesian and Malay translations of the Bible, to which ironically opposed by majority of Muslims in Malaysia? Miroslav Volf has an interesting view on the topic "Allah"

[@hetrodoxly1203]

Allah is an Arab boys name, who'd call their child 'God', Mohammed's father Abdallah cast arrows to the moon god in the Kaaba, Abdallah means servant of Allah in these pre Islam times who was he the servant of?

[@GardeniaInc]

See christian malaysia and indo why you guys bother to claim allah as Jesus or trinity?You guys cannot explain or defend allah named insult by christian even though you guys christian used allah as God/jesus modified bible..you just dont know how right??simple most christian know their God not called allah..If non muslim in arab country used allah refer to God its normal.. orthodoks there they reject trinity..plus original bible in koine greek..you guys doesnt used arabic in recitation or in ritual even scripture or daily routine..plus arabic word most taken from al quran..but you guys doesnt used al quran..jesus consider god..in malay translate as tuhan if used that not a problem..allah kata nama khas..usually i paste link to christian(not from malaysia or indo)regarding this issue they say pope and christian in this country crazy😅aik??study about orientalis..esp colonizer who spread gold glory gospel..then you get the answer how detail they plan to convert muslim here but in malaysia they failed🤣

[@Blissblizzard]

Arab Christians used it 1st, blatant plagiarism , you had Sin Ba'al, Al Lat and Al Uzza when you gave your god daughters.... Stay in your safe space.

[@franktomisich8982]

Arabic speaking Christians were around more than 600 years before Islam and Mohamed, the Arabic word for God being Allah, Mohomed simply adopted the nomenclature and adapted the traditions to suit himself.

[@Featherfinder]

@@franktomisich8982 Frank Tomisich nailed it!! Well done, sir 😎

[@shayaandanish5831]

I believe in God. Attributes of God can be understood differently but I believe in one God, our Creator. I say that as a muslim(literally meaning he who submits to God).

[@wishyouthebest9222]

A Christian does submit to the one Creator God aswell. Muslims deny who HE is, regarding the christian perspective. Both can't be right. The question follows: Who is wrong? God bless you, friend. Stay safe.

[@shayaandanish5831]

@@wishyouthebest9222 Wish you the best as well. And yes you are right I certainly do not believe in God in three persons though I'd be lying if I said I entirely understand that. I tbh do not know how to know God. All I know is that He is and that He has created all with a purpose. Part of that which many muslims forget is not blindly following what they read but righteousness and following universal values especially that of treating another as youd treat yourself and seeking the truth. After all the truth shall set you free. Peace

[@wishyouthebest9222]

@@shayaandanish5831 you, friend, sound more christian than most I come accross declaring to be one. I applaud your honesty regarding the trinity. This mystery can be explained to an extend but not complety broken down to a human level of "mental digestion". Your statements regarding God are true but you make a dangerous error in your thinking. God, being THE selfsufficient Being, who exceeds all natural things, shouldn't be chosen by what our rational is able to comprehend in this 3rd dimension. He should be chosen by the measurement of truth. Plus there is a necessity of God being in atleast the 4th dimension, because there is a beginning to the universe, but not to God. Only God knows how this one may look like, but what we can understand is that there are not the same limitations as in our dimension, wich allows the '3 persons, one essence' claim of the bible. In that regard the bible gives God the credit of being outside of our dimension with his revelation, wich strongly indicates it. If we would believe in God with the demand of only our understandings we would all be atheists.

[@shayaandanish5831]

@@wishyouthebest9222 your comment really made me feel good and understand the error in my thinking. The trinity however I'd say brings the 4th dimension more to the dimensions we know. The muslim scholars I have heard actually take this very seriously and the Quran also stresses on the universality of God being beyond our comprehension. One thing I didnt at all understand was that a scholar said whatever our mind conceives of God isnt God. Thankyou again (Edit: however, I would like to make it clear that I obviously do not believe in the triune god but Him as One immaterial omnipotent being and I do not understand why it would be so crucial for us to understand God as in three persons.)

[@wishyouthebest9222]

@@shayaandanish5831 no need to thank me. I would like to advise you a channel: InspiringPhilosophy. The Trinity and many of your questions will be answered there. I will gladly talk to you, anytime. Come back if needed. I appreciate your kind heart. No offence but I'm convinced I will one day call you brother in Christ :).

[@jotunman627]

No one who knowingly and deliberately rejects the truth will be saved. It doesn’t matter how good of a Muslim, Jew, Baptist, or anything else he may be. If anyone rejects the truth of Christ and his Church-even one definitive teaching-they will be lost.

[@danielrutigliano7938]

What must I do to be saved?

[@jotunman627]

@@danielrutigliano7938 Obey the commandments. "If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love" “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.”

[@danielrutigliano7938]

@jotun man you don't obey the commandments if you did then truly righteousness would come by the law.

[@jotunman627]

@@danielrutigliano7938 Do not commit sin... "If men only know what awaits them in eternity they would do everything in their power to change their lives."

[@danielrutigliano7938]

@@jotunman627 who are you quoting....Pope John Paul II?

[@JezielProdigalSon]

Can someone answer this series of questions. Does Abraham have more than one god? Do christians worship the god of Abraham? Do muslims worship the god of Abraham? If you answered: No Yes Yes - Then does christians and muslims not have the same god?

[@InitialPC]

no christians believe god took human form died for our sins and rose from the dead muslims believe the crucifixion was an illusion made by god to damn everyone to hell ("the people of the book" go to hell in the quran) two very different gods

[@JezielProdigalSon]

@@InitialPC No, thats two different understandings of history and following theology. Its still the same god. Jewish people also deny the ressurection. Are they also not worshipping the God of Abraham, the Father of the Holy Trinity?

[@InitialPC]

@@JezielProdigalSon Actually there are many Jews who believe in the resurrection they're called Messianic Jews and the early church (including the apostles and Jesus Himself) were all Jewish. "Two different understandings of history" Umm no, the Bible clearly says Jesus is God in the flesh who died for our sins and the quran clearly says he is not. Two very different Gods.

[@sonye-jin6737]

The regular iconic picture of the trinity looks band to me, a trinitarian Christian, as well. That European looking old man as the Father feels so wrong. I prefer more abstract depictions of the Trinity in art.

[@luked7956]

What Matt said about breaking Christ's last commandment is absolutely correct. Without Chist, we are condemned, and he was correct about this. Vatican II teaches the exact opposite of this and contradicts Christ's words in Nostra Aetate #4. From there, the USCCB expanded this heresy by claiming it was incompatible with Catholic theology to convert Jews through Catholic missions. This was repeated by the Vatican in 2015. JPII's catechism expanded this heresy further by rejecting the Council of Florence and Mystici Corporis by claiming that the Old Covenant had never been abolished. This Catechism was bound with the infallible formula in the Apostolic Constitution: Fidei Depositum. The conciliar church has taught heresy which contradicts the gospel, rejects the words of Christ, and rejects the authoritative and dogmatic teachings of his Church's magisterium.

[@josephcallan3430]

Is KZbin banning posts unfavourable to Islam?

[@wenshan9101]

By convention, the Abrahamic religions must necessarily believe in the same God, since all believe in the God of Abraham. So technically, we worship the same God. In contrast, the question is thrown wide open if we ask whether we seek the same God. I think not. There may be areas of overlap, but it cannot be congruent. It is dependent on the perception of God and self. A christocentric theology necessarily excludes Judaism and Islam. Also, no Jew will allow the ten commandments to be subsumed under the two greatest commandments of Christ (Matthew 22:37 - 39) though they are unified and sufficiently addressed in the context of unreserved love for God and charity for his neighbour.

[@nnhh480]

Bible was corrupted by evil people

[@nnhh480]

There is only one god he has no partners

[@jaja9081]

Thats wrong... al-lah is a pagan god tauhid (unifyed) by all knowing gods to muhammad. That include the YHWH (the true living god). But still (al) LAH is a pagan/false god of many. A moongod of the New moon ☪️ He also have 3daugther named al-LAT (Black stone), al-uzza and al-manat (venus). He (al-LAH) just try to put on the skin of YHWH like the todays called "palestinians" who are in reality arabs who gen0zid the palestinians and took on their skin

[@JezielProdigalSon]

@@jaja9081 There is only one God. There is no moongod.

[@jaja9081]

@@JezielProdigalSonwho is Lah (al-lah) and why his Symbol is the cresend moon? There is only one true god and that is not allah who can do nothing

[@rwsquiresjr64]

I wonder if she would claim that Orthodox Jews do not worship the same God as Christians because they reject the Trinity? And to focus in on the word "Allah" is rather slippery, since it is simply the Arabic word for God--there being no other word in that language to express that concept or idea. Sure, Muslims often falsely claim that the word "Allah" is linguistically and theologically superior to the English word God, but this too is rubbish and based on sloppy thinking...easily refuted that Arabic-speaking Trinitarian Christians use the word "Allah" for God in their worship, since that's simply the word for "God" in their language. One should also be aware that in Aramaic, the language that Jesus Christ spoke, the word for God is "Alaha"--which is obviously very similar to the Arabic word, since they are both Semitic languages. Overall, while Calvinists, Catholics, Jews, and Muslims all have different concepts of God, to single out one of these for the claim that their God is a "different God"--even when the Qur'an and Muslims explicitly say that they are worshipping "the God of Abraham, Noah, Moses, and Jesus" approaches something akin to blind hatefulness. At a minimum, it is intellectual duplicitousness that comes across as bigoted and narrow-minded and thus stands in the way of TRUE missionary work. Having engaging conversations with Muslims in to show them how superficial their understanding of God, that the Trinity isn't what they perceive it to be, and other Christian concepts is much more important and necessary than the silly and pointless claim that they're worshipping "a different God"...since that often puts an unnecessary wedge between Christians and Muslims. Muslim scholars see this as simply as an attempt to "poison the well" of Islam since Christians fear that its clear and straightforward "pure monotheistic" theology will spread in the West, and since Christians cannot win (at least in their minds) in a straight up Monotheism versus Trinity debate, they instead resort to slandering "Allah" and Islam in an underhanded attempt to turn Christians off to Islam's teachings before they've ever even had a chance to learn about it and considered it. Catholics need to do better.

[@asiyaabda7495]

I appreciate your sensible input. It also boggles the mind that any monotheist can suggest Muslims worship a different God since that assertion would affirm the existence of more than 1 god

[@teddymeister95]

Thank God/Allah for this comment

[@asiyaabda7495]

@@Kyrana4102 it is intellectually dishonest for a monotheistic person to not come right out and say that, then, because even if someone has the wrong idea about the nature of God, it doesn’t change God’s essence. To suggest there is a different God altogether calls into question their theological credibility

[@observerzz]

The Honest Truth is : The Christians and the Muslims, do actually worship the same God for God is One without a second. But it is the Christians who has the 'perverted view of God, the reason why God had to send the Last Prophet, once and for all, to set things strait, to the whole world. And I strongly believe, if it's not for the 'Trinity and its components by which, " Jesus, a man accredited with wonders and miracles which God did through him"(Acts 2:2) was made into a 'god', there won't have been a need for the One True God to send His Last Prophet and Messenger, Muhammad (pbuh) to the world.

[@kevinjanghj]

Nope. The lore behind Allah came from a totally different source from the Christian God.

[@marieloumontenegro3103]

We don't have the same teaching. How can the Christians and muslims have the same God.

[@lm7338]

4:02 As many would say that Christians have a perverted view of the god of Avraham, Yischaq and Ya'aqov too.

[@davidmckean8100]

If Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God, then Christians and Jews do not worship the same God. Rabbinical Judaism recognizes Islam as a valid form of worship for gentiles, which is not something it affords Christianity (or at least it is contested whether shittuf is avodah zarah or not).

[@catholicdisciple732]

Does Vatican II teach that Muslims and Christians worship the same God?

[@maxxyboy1000]

They believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But at the same time, as mentioned in this video, they've got a very different understanding of God, to the point where it's not the Christian God. The quote in the catechism comes from a larger extract, which read in context shows that what's really being said is that the Muslims, like our Protestant brothers and sisters, have a part of the truth, but that God desires them to know the whole truth of Himself.

[@r.c4914]

I BELIEVE ,YOUR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW THE CATHECHISM IS STATING THIS.

[@ॐIo]

Orthodox Jews agree that they pray to the same god as Muslims.

[@slavazoid8179]

So why are you not one Ummah?? Yeah thata what I taught

[@evangelistmatthew783]

You should interview Hatun Tash!!

[@alecfoster5542]

Neither Muslims or Jews believe in the Triune God. So, no. End of story.

[@rinzler9171]

I do not understand the angst. If you believe an all powerful entity created all of reality, You MUST believe this entity CAN exist all over the place at once as several but equal subdivisions, if HE wanted to. Holding fast to idiotic semantic arguments such as "Why would he do this" or "this doesn't makes sense because" means you do not believe the Lord to be as all powerful as you think.

[@matthiasdinkelbach1661]

It's a good insight that God is all-powerful, and thus we should not mentally restrain His graces. The problem is this: Jesus says in John 14:6 that "No one comes to the Father except through me." Therefore a religion that denies the saving sacrifice of Christ is pitted against the path to God. It is not our place to judge whether any individual has a place in Heaven, as a person who is unintentionally ignorant of the gospel may receive greater mercy. From those given much, much is expected. With that said, it remains that if the gospel is true, Islam cannot sufficiently lead a person to the Father. Not because anything is impossible for our God, but because we believe in a God who keeps His promises.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@matthiasdinkelbach1661 Wonderfully expressed.

[@billbadson7598]

It is one thing to misunderstand the nature of God, but another thing to say that because of that misunderstanding, people are worshipping some other being. Jews absolutely do not conceive of God as a trinity, and explicitly reject the divinity of Christ. Do they worship the same God as Christians?

[@SeekLuminousThings]

I think as Catholics were are obligated to disagree with Derya Little. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day" (CCC. 841).

[@TheZeroSbr]

Is the CCC binding and infallible?

[@herrschmidt412]

I think Catholics and Muslims worship the same God. I don't believe that following Islam leads to Salvation by any means, but I think we both understand that the universe was created by a single Creator. The problems come further down the line. It wouldn't be accurate to call Muslims heretics as a heretic is someone who is baptized denying an aspect of the faith but Islam is something similar to a heresy (which is certainly damnable). I think people just overthink the whole "do we worship the same God?" question, obviously anyone who worships one God who created all things is worshipping the same God.

[@MrTournemire]

Sehr gute und ausbalancierte Antwort, chapeau !

[@Blissblizzard]

You think.??? This is not Tik Tok do some actual research. I know another Herr Schmidt who comments on YT he's a serial killer but they are both you right?

[@elleondejuda4681]

The answer to...Do Muslim serve the same God of the Christian? The answer is Noooo. Very simple ,is not just problem of theology but a bigger problem. Mahoma denied the God Elohim who gave the Torah and the Prophets to Israel.(mahoma doesn't use the Hebrew bible nor the gospel ,there for is a false god the one he preaches! YHWH has already revealed him self through the prophets and moses. Yhwh said that if someone prophesied about another god or give another message , to kill him. God , yahweh elohim is a family according to genesis and some other verses in the bible. Dont mixed the God of Israel W the god of mahoma they are not the same at all One is the truth and the other is a man made god. The massage is not the same , the Lord is not the same , this should tell you already that they don't have not even a grain of sand of knowledge of the true God. The apostle paul says in very occasions that " if someone preaches another Christ ,another gospel ,receive by Angel's etc ...let him (him means whatever that person maybe ) be a curse. So for me ,as beautiful that may sound " muslim serve the same god, buddha serve the same god , the kukus serve the same God of the Jews and Christians, the answer is 100% Nooo The example given by Matt is totally wrong and he should say I'm sorry for even thinking such a thing. Listen , there are many Christian denominations, they all used the bible but even in this denomination we have a different gospel ( in this days , we have the ecumenical god,the ecumenical christ , the jesus of the watch tower , the jesus in a crucifix, the jesus of the later saints, this is not Jezis of the bible , this happens fo to false preachers and teacher who are looking for the gifts of man $$$$$ and political power. You see ,I as a Christian using the same bible I can preach another jesus and another god. Many are doing it. If someone worships the true God, he will have to worship according to the model of the Lord jesus totally. Believe the Torah and the prophets believe that you are save through Jesus ,you serve Lord jesus as savior and lord , worship according to the gospel , believe in the new and old testament only , I said only. Now that I made a short prove of the God of The law and prophets anf new testament vs the false man made mahoma god with his curan, is very simple we are not praying or worshipping the same True God. When a Muslim pray , is he praying to the same God a Christian prays ? No way Jose , and even jose knows that. When a Muslim thinks about god ,is he thinking about the same Yahweh Father of our Lord Jesus ? No jose. When a person out side of the Muslim faith thinks of god is he thinking of the True God ? No For many God is the universe, a pantheistic god. For some a cow is god , a monkey is god , etc etc The only God that proves to be the true God is the heavenly Father , father of the Lord Jesus Christ. So let's be very careful how we use our words , we can come up with a mixed of a syncretism, pagan and holy mixed. That's pretty bad , God really gets upset when someone does that, you can't mixed God with pagan faith. People we do not wanna mixed the truth with false teachings just because sounds very nice and so respectful or so godly, so friendly etc The truth is the truth ,if you dont like it ,it's ok , you may serve a fake god or any other religion or even become atheist but dont mess with God please. God bless you all.

[@yoyonail3383]

do you really want to believe in a god who encourages murder?

[@abbyschubert5637]

So is the Catechism wrong? I'm in complete agreement with Matt and Derya, but how can one interpret what the Catechism teaches that way?

[@Olivier1]

Hi there, there is no contradiction in the Catechism. Look at 27 mins in what Fr Chris Alar explains here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJa6k2xsgdmqfqM . God bless.

[@TheNostalgicKitchen]

Sadly the catechism has modernist elements in it that have always been condemned prior to Vatican II ..

[@davekargol]

@Marcus Murphy thanks for making this observation. That actually helps a lot. I was fairly shocked by reading that section of Lumen Gentium but the word “profess” adds a lot of wiggle room.

[@__Man_]

​@Marcus Murphy The catechism quotes from Vatican II, but Vatican II has other statements about the Muslims worshipping the same God. Is it the same with those instances? This explanation is much more in line with tradition

[@GEORGEGEORGEIII]

I believe Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same God, the God that originally made the Covenant with Israel, YHWH. The issue is that they have 3 different interpretations/views of that God.

[@Blissblizzard]

So no then 🤣🤣🤣

[@miAIFI]

This lady seems to have chosen Christianity because it meshes with secular modernity more. All or most the critiques she has of Muslim society can be equally applied to medieval Christianity.

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

This narrative is evasive. Unitarians are not Trinitarians. Are Unitarians Christians? Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet of God. Ask Muslims. Jews detest Jesus. Ask them. - John 14:6.

[@domhamai]

We do worship the same God. Some people call Christians polytheists, but it is not really polytheism; it is more a corruption of monotheism. The thing Trinitarians don’t often seem to understand is that the indivisibility of a monotheistic God logically invalidates any argument for the trinity.

[@Blissblizzard]

Youre damning with faint praise here effendi, "corrupted"

[@domhamai]

@@Blissblizzard It is exactly a corruption of monotheism; do they not praise and worship the Almighty? Is it polytheism like Hinduism is? It’s ignorant and dishonest to simplify someone’s beliefs, project back onto them an inaccurate portrayal, and then argue against that. And it will only lead to further ignorance. Allah made us of different religions so that we might know one another. And Allah knows best. بارك الله فيك السلام عليكم ورحمة الله

[@Blissblizzard]

@@domhamai I have never gone on a muslim channel and called islam "corrupted." I have never gone on a porn channel and decried porn. What are you trying to achieve? I don't understand porn and you don't understand Christianity. Stay in your bubble if you want your posts to be agreeable, because islamic apologetics uses a different logic that does not translate (solipsistic) as do pornographers no doubt, best we don't find out eh?

[@joehouston2833]

Watch Christian Prince.. he dismantles the islam and Allah..

[@lenar.1691]

Watch Farids answers. CP doesn't know that much about islam as you believe.

[@joehouston2833]

@@lenar.1691is that why Christian Prince is in the Indonesian tabloids for single handedly emptying Mosques? 🤣

[@lenar.1691]

@@joehouston2833 Dawkins emptied many churches. Does that mean he is right about christianity and that it's wrong? I guess no.

[@inhocsignovinces6472]

@@lenar.1691 so dawkins more powerfull than allah

[@joenenninger971]

@funkypharaoh He wood, wood he???????

[@renaissanceman9168]

Derya owned it

[@sreenathjohnsonsaysnotolgbtq]

Short answer: NO Long Answer: NO^100

[@Hopeless-pw8ri]

Catholics can't say no. It would be self-excommunication.

[@johnjon1823]

The scripture does say we will be judged by the light we have. Moslems have a dim flickering light that is basically monotheistic and that is all, anything else they have "correct" or correct is accidental. They attempt to worship God as they understand Him, in that sense they offer worship to the same God, and God knowing their exceptionally dark darkness understands this, but desires for them to know the Truth. Catholics who are well informed and catechized are like the ones who received several talents when the master left town, we have the pearl of great price. It is absolutely incumbent on every catholic to invest the talents, to be evangelistic without exception, THAT idea, is seriously lacking today. It was not lacking prior to Vatican II, not because of it being talents or a pearl, but because of eternal loss to all outside the church. The nuance in teaching following Vatican II that admits the possibility of salvation to those outside the formal church, which some may think of as a rupture in teaching (which it is not), is a root cause of the problem today along with intermarriage which is routinely approved with ZERO scrutiny; in fact the permission for marriage is more often likely rejected due to age, and likely less often due to "pending progeny". Back in my time it was universally understood among Catholic men that "doing the right thing" was incumbent upon the occurrence of certain situations - perhaps not always the actually best thing to do, BUT how then to best protect one's progeny is really a duty for the progenerator perhaps including falling on the grenade IMHO. Although I have seen it done otherwise, and today, among the young it seems an alien concept. To me it seems a Father's role is always defensive, defending the children by making sure they are fed, i.e. hard work at a lousy job or whatever is needed; moving to a safer neighborhood - if possible; seeking a better school - if possible, and on and on. I have strayed from the Topic. To me the best Moslem is a non-devout Moslem, they seem much safer to be around. Everyone is at risk of eternal damnation, without exception. Therefore the need for conversion daily, should be the norm and if Catholics need it, all the more so for others. The failure of fire to evangelize at all costs IS the reason we have what we have. We reap what we have failed to sow, we have failed to sow the full Truth. We have failed to claim the absolute historical fact of the resurrection, we say "we believe" well BS on that, we need to say WE KNOW.

[@soleman21]

I dont understand this question of same God? What is that mean? Because as soon as you say not the same God, you bring up the question does that mean there are more then one God. God (Allah) exist whether anyone believes it or not. Everything belongs to that one God. Everything else is shirk. When an idol worshipper ask something from an Idol. It is not the Idol that provides but the true One God provides. The Idol worshippers, Idol worshipping is problematic not the existence of One true God ( Allah in Arabic). There is Only one God or Allah everything else is shirk ( associating partners with God)

[@asiyaabda7495]

It makes no sense for a monotheist to suggest Muslims worship a different God because that assertion affirms the existence of more than 1 god. They should instead be clearer and logically consistent in their faith dogma by explaining that our concepts of God our different. The nature of God’s Oneness is unchangeable regardless of how worshippers conceptualize that

[@Blissblizzard]

Whatever the mhmd squeezing entity was heralding, it wasn't the Trinity. bored now. incompatable is not the same.

[@stmrjs]

i believe we do believe in the same GOD. Even within Christianity, there's division. Roman Catholics differ from Eastern Orthodoxy. Within Islam, there is also division. Shia, Sunni, even Sufi. Would you say we believe in a different GOD from the one in Judaism?

[@Tony-Tiger1970]

She's correct, the muslim god and jesus of the koran is not the same as the God and Jesus from the Bible... We need to stop debating with them. Let them alone.

[@Charliepup2023]

Matt the Pope said it is the same God. However, it is so clear it isn’t. Please pray for the Pope as from the outside looking in looks like his corrupt. Thus, Matt my question is, can you be a Catholic but not have faith in the church hierarchy?

[@josephjackson1956]

Saul 2Paul people who are priests and bishops and popes are just that; people. They are able to sin like you and me. We are called to pray for all people for their forgiveness of sins and conversion to Christ. Pray that these leaders in the faith do not become corrupt or fall away!!!

[@josephjackson1956]

Saul 2Paul the Catholic Church says to accept all things that are true, good, and beautiful, and some ways that Muslims worship God is by prayer, almsgiving, and fasting, which are good. We are to cast out and forget the evil things of other religions, and fortify the good things. St. Paul talks about this to the Gentiles

[@butterflybeatles]

Nope.

[@Charliepup2023]

I love the Catholicsm message and to me it makes logical sense. But at the moment I’m disgusted in the leftist Marxism that the Vatican has become. They could do so much more to prevent abortions and homosexuality in there priest’s. Yet they do not seek the truth and hide, so how can I respect them? Please note, there are some amazing priests out there. But collectively the Clergy do not seek the truth but seek to protect themselves.

[@butterflybeatles]

@@Charliepup2023 I am with you. The Church, now, is totally in line with the New World Order and not it line at all with God. It is Satanic. But where is the Church without the pope and the hierarchy? It is most troubling.

[@CS-qn7ux]

Allah was the name of the Chief Beduoin God of the Pagan Arabs before the Prophet Muhammad & the advent of Islam & their supposed monotheism.

[@mbarkbiba]

The cheif gods of the bedouins were two there names were ( اللات والعزة) lat & iza

[@joshnosek6078]

after studying islam for years. no we dont worship the same god. we might both be monothiestic but the islamic god is so different then the christain god. no way we worship the same god

[@georgebachovin4378]

The Quran is the actual word of God to Muslims so how could Allah get the trinity wrong

[@JGGREY]

So do I understand you correctly Matt that you believe all non Catholics are damned

[@nathanvanbuskirk4835]

Hey Matt, I am a member of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) and I enjoy watching your shows and videos I appreciate your conversations with your wonderful guests. I am just wondering if you have had a conversation with a member of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon). I don't know your personal feelings regarding members of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) but I think it would be beneficial to speak with one. I understand and respect your view regarding the Trinity and I respect what you might think about what we call the "GODHEAD". But if you want to understand exactly what members of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) believe regarding God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and I believe you do, please ask. Thank you for your wonderful videos and keep up the good work.

[@mariacortez5931]

We do not worship the same God! That is very clear! Either Jews do not know believe in the same god as our God.

[@AprendeMovimiento]

I hate this conversation not personally with you guys, just in general. The word ALLAH comes from al-Ilāh which means "THE GOD", that word is the Arabic word that describes the ONE GOD, separate from illah which means deity or god, so when you talk about Egyptian gods, Greek or Roman gods you would call them illah, but if you were to describe in Arabic the God from the old testament you must call him "THE GOD" which means ALLAH. Saying that believing in Allah is not believing in the same God is like saying ancient "Arab-Jews didn't believe in the same God as us. To be more precise you must say that the Allah from the Old Testament and New Testament is not the same Allah as the one in the Qur'an, just like the Jesus Christ of the Catholics is not the same as the protestants especially not the same as the mormon's Jesus Christ...

[@butterflybeatles]

@@Hello-ro8fq Why do you call Allah a false god? Why do Christians have to be such idiots?

[@butterflybeatles]

@Qwerty How do you invent such trash? Are you a feminist? It sounds like you hate men.

[@AprendeMovimiento]

@Qwerty the word ALLAH literally means THE GOD, If you are an Ancient Jew that speaks Arabic you would have called God, Allah... The definition of the Muslims of the word GOD (Allah) is different than the jewish-christian God (Allah) definition. That's why I gave the example of Jesus Christ, We call Jesus Christ to the incarnated second person of the trinity, but mormons call Jesus Christ to a being that is different from God the father, they don't hold the trinitarian understanding, but they BOTH use the name "JESUS CHRIST", so you shouldn't speak badly of the name ALLAH because of muslims, neither speak badly of the name JESUS CHRIST because of mormons... Muslims and Arabic speaking Jews and Christians call God "ALLAH" not because muslims, that name existed way before muslims even came to existence.

[@AprendeMovimiento]

@@Hello-ro8fq That's a fallacy, you can use a word badly, that doesn't make the word evil all of a sudden. Words are not evil, certain people are evil which is very different.

[@AprendeMovimiento]

@@Hello-ro8fq Not the best example, you guys stopped using the words bitch and pussy for cultural reasons, not because the words themselves mean something different; the word pussy means cat but the "SLANG" pussy means something different, in Spanish the same thing happens, Perra is the female for dogs and some people use Perra as an offensive slang term for women, but that does not take away the actual meaning of the word. Allah means The God, an Arabic Speaking Catholic uses the word Allah correctly, a muslim does not.

[@christojose7982]

Any Person who believes in One God must Refer to Same Person.But the description of that All powerful All knowing God is Different in Islam & Christianity . . Eg: Imagine there is a Principal, All students believe that there is only one principal, But if you ask different students about principal different students will have different opinions, Views about the same person .

[@patriot524]

I think it is the same God, but Muslims horribly misunderstand him and don't actually know him. People here are making the mistake of thinking of God as merely a collection of traits or attributes. No, He is a union of persons. Similarly, two people can be talking about the same person, but one of those people can horribly misunderstand the person being spoken about. You are still speaking of the same person, despite having in mind a false image of the person.

[@pierreschiffer3180]

Well, surely we do not mean to ask whether Islam is from God, right? For the God of Islam teaches that Jesus is only man, while the Church teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man. How can Islam have the same God then?? Is God a liar? If Islam is from God, then Catholicism is not: that is not rocket science, but rather the logic of non-contradiction. Only in case we believe that God is a philosophical God who likes to play games - and lies - we can make the assertion that both are from God. Such God is hardly Catholic, however. Indeed the Church is falling apart: already on paper.

[@sageseraph5035]

6:52 I understood that reference

[@feelz_4_dayz885]

bring Sam Shamoun or David Woods on the show

[@aphilip5325]

The answer is NO. Suggesting we believe in the same God is just pure ignorance and blasphemous.

[@aphilip5325]

@@Hello-ro8fq source? Allah is not the same the Trinity. Quran denies the divinity of Jesus.

[@aphilip5325]

@@Hello-ro8fq He wasn't speaking infallibly. To give some context, St. Peter denied Jesus 3x, so does that make it okay for us to deny him?

[@joehouston2833]

@@Hello-ro8fq Catholics dont worship the Pagan moon God nor lick stones..

[@joehouston2833]

@@Hello-ro8fq Catholics lick stones? And claim it forgives sin? Really??

[@trnslash]

@@aphilip5325 The answer is YES. Before judging ignorance or blamsphemy you might want to check out something called the Catechism of the Catholic Church CCC 841 - "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day." It doesn't get more succinct than this

[@trnslash]

My fellow Catholics the answer is a resounding YES. Before you go about tearing me apart, please refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 841) - "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."

[@trnslash]

Read Tim Staples excellent commentary on this topic here - www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/do-muslims-worship-the-same-god-catholics-do

[@harryflash5202]

Do Muslims Worship the Same God? Ha! Ha! Ha! You mean there's more than one God? What a great Christian you are. Have another pint.

[@aly8380]

There is a difference between Islam and other non-Christian religions. Islam is a system of faith designed to directly refute and contradict Christian teachings BY NAME. According to Islam: God is not trinitarian. Christ is not God. God cannot have a son. God is not the Father. Christ did not die on the cross. The RESURRECTION did not happen. Because according to Islam, he did not die, so He did not rise from the dead. Christ did not take on the sins of the world. The Bible has been distorted so cannot be relied on. It substitutes the Quran instead. Christ will come again but he will come to destroy Christianity and break the crosses. God chose Ishmael - not Isaac. In Judaism and Christianity Isaac became Abraham's sole heir and his descendants, theJews are the Chosen people. So Islam is different from Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. because it is not just different, it explicitly refers to Christianity's basic tenets and claims they are wrong.

[@ajobimlover]

The key I think to understanding why Muslims and Christians worship a different God is understanding that they are bound to a different moral law. Muslims can morally justify violence in keeping with the Quran in ways that Christians never can. It makes it clear that they therefore do not worship the same God. Muslims worship a perverted and false idea of God - and therefore they are not truly *worshipping* the *true God.* True worship implies an acceptance of God in all that He is!

[@ajobimlover]

This is what opened my eyes to the errors of the new Catechism. I never would have dreamed that there would be a problem with our post-Vatican 2 Catechism, but an honest look at the history of Church teaching forces a Catholic to reject this point. The infallibility of the Church is only guaranteed in certain circumstances and this isn't one of them.

[@adamp2426]

The bible is literally filled with stories of God ordering the killing of entire nations, including children & liverstock. Meanwhile, the koran forbids harming women, children, elderly, non combatants & livestock & trees. Talk about moral laws...

[@soleman21]

I am sorry but I cant watch all of it because its hilariously ignorant about islam. I apologize have a good day. I cant swallow the concept of trinity because as soon as you bring hiearchy with in god. You introduce conflict which is a human element. Even if all the hiearchy is perfectly in harmony with each other. There is always a dangling factor of conflict.

[@abangbulek1974]

they do not worship YHWH GOD of Abraham ,issac and Jacob.

[@beserman181]

no we do not christians worship jesus and muslims worship one true god allah who jesus called illa

[@hkyoyo]

Muslims, like Jews, believe in the same God, the Father. Christians give divine attributes to Jesus, making him equal to the Father. Jesus rebukes that in the Bible, but Christians choose not to listen, and that is why when Jesus returns he will say to those who call him Lord Lord (only Christians call him this)... he will say: "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!... Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 7:21-23).

[@emmaus5975]

Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22 Muslims are taught from the Koran that Allah does not have a son and that it is shirk, their unforgivable sin, to say that Allah has children in any way: physical, spiritual, or by adoption. Thus, Muslims deny the Father and the Son. They do not worship the same God as us and indeed have the spirit of antichrist. Pray for their conversion.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

The Trinity is admittedly less straight forward than 72 virgins. But at least Muslims can ask the difficult questions about Christianity, not something they accept from others or even do themselves, as Satanic Verses. (I am reading, listening actually, to salmen rushdie (to stick it to the ayatollahs mainly) which does little more than tell the embarrassing story).

[@Nick-ij5nt]

The concept of the trinity honestly isn't even that hard to comprehend. If you've ever seen the show Naruto and you're familiar with the character 'Pain' I would assume the trinity operates in a similar way to that character.

[@princepis]

Having watched that show, I don’t think that is a good analogy, it would make out the persons of the Trinity to have not be separate persons. The way it works in the show is that its one person who is manipulating biological automatons who no longer really have any individuality or autonomy/free will. And the Trinity is impossible to fully comprehend. St. Augustine said as much. But we don’t have to comprehend it, it is a Divine mystery and the most important one, the point is that we have faith in it. But it is not thereby irrational to believe in it even if we can’t fully comprehend it.

[@Nick-ij5nt]

@@princepis Yes, I never said it was exactly the same. But it's similar in the sense that one consciousness/being is simultaneously in control of multiple separate entities that function in different ways to fulfill different roles. That's just the closest comparison that came to mind.

[@matthiasdinkelbach1661]

@@Nick-ij5nt While I admire your insight in making the reference, I would agree with Brendan. Unfortunately, the Trinity isn't that easy to find an analogue for. What you're describing sounds more to me like the heresy of Modalism, that God does not exist as three distinct persons but one person revealing Himself in different ways for different purposes.

[@Nick-ij5nt]

@@matthiasdinkelbach1661 But God is one being so what would be the point in having 3 separate persons unless they fulfill different roles? If the father could do everything the son can do then why are they different persons at all? Obviously they would all technically have the same abilities but it's pretty clear that they delegate different roles and functions to each other or else there wouldn't really be a point. I'm not trying to be heretical, I'm just making assumptions until I can can ask him personally.

[@matthiasdinkelbach1661]

@@Nick-ij5nt Haha, I didn't mean to accuse you of heresy. It's a bit of a joke in my college ministry group that the more you talk about the Trinity, the easier it is to be a heretic. I only compared your comment to Modalism to point out that people have already proposed a similar idea and the Church renounced it. I agree with you that God is one and that the persons of the Trinity reveal themselves differently while sharing in the fullness of the divine substance. I think an important point to focus on is that triune personhood of God doesn't exist because it's necessary for salvation, but because it's a part of God's innate nature. God exists in communion with Himself and loves Himself perfectly through the Trinity.

[@aly8380]

Islam clearly states that God cannot be the Father. Of the 99 names of Allah, "Father" is not one of them. Directly contradicting the prayer that Jesus Christ undoubtedly taught us. That is the clearest indication to me that Islam is not the religion of Jesus Christ despite Muslims claiming that Islam is the original religion of Jesus and all the prophets. The Quran teachers that God cannot have a son/children. Any Muslim proselytizing Christians who use "Father" to refer to God is being disingenuous and using a Christian concept which is by definition un-Islamic. The Allah Muslims worship is not the God the Father of Jesus. Why? When Jesus prays, He calls God His Father. By their own admission, Allah IS NOT and cannot be a Muslim's or anyone's father. Of the 99 names of Allah, "Father" is not one of them. Yet how many times is that term used in the Bible? Jesus taught us the God IS indeed Our Father. That is the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Who do you believe? The most important, most intimate prayer in Christianity is the "OUR FATHER." It is the most personal instruction, most personal legacy or gift to us from Jesus Christ Himself. He taught it to us Himself. For a Muslim to claim that Jesus never said that flies in the face of every evidence. They contradict Jesus Himself. Or more accurately, Jesus Himself debunks them. How many times was God called the Father in the Bible? A few examples: "FATHER forgive them for they know not what they are doing." “ABBA, FATHER all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.” "Be perfect as YOUR heavenly FATHER is perfect." "..For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are SONS OF GOD. For you...received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "ABBA, FATHER." ...we are children of God, and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ...that we may also be glorified together." Romans 8:15 We Christians ARE family - literally not just figuratively. As Catholics, through the Holy Eucharist, we literally become one flesh with Jesus Christ and thus one family through Christ, ADOPTED CHILDREN OF GOD in flesh and spirit. We can literally claim that Jesus IS, in the truest sense, FLESH OF MY FLESH, BLOOD OF MY BLOOD. The Muslim has directly contradicted Jesus and distanced himself from that family.

[@harrykimura]

She didn't answer the question. Weak answer. Pandering and tiptoeing around the issue. Give a blunt answer, give the TRUTH.