Do NOT Buy A GRAPHICS Card Right NOW! 🛑 - Wait For RTX 50 Series, Battlemage, RDNA4 2024

In this video, we dive into the exciting world of PC hardware as we approach Computex 2024. With new products and architectures on the horizon, PC gamers face a common dilemma: should they upgrade now or wait for the next generation of hardware? We’ll explore this question in depth, examining past trends, upcoming releases, and market dynamics. Whether you’re interested in Nvidia’s RTX 50 series, Intel’s Arrow Lake-S CPUs and Battlemage GPUs, or AMD’s Zen 5 and RDNA4, we’ve got you covered. Join us as we navigate the complex landscape of PC hardware upgrades, providing insights to help you make an informed decision. Remember, the best choice depends on your individual circumstances, so let’s explore together!
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[@derek8564]

DONT BUY UNLESS YOU NEED TO BUY

[@redclaw72666]

Don't buy unless you got no games to play like most people lol

[@Hi_Im_o2]

@@redclaw72666 i mean you could sail the seas

[@adlibconstitution1609]

I bought the 4070super and I am so happy playing at 1440p all games high fps

[@richit9981]

​@adlibconstitution1609 same. Just made my first pc with 7800x3d and 4070 ti super and its been really fun to play games.

[@obayalharbi82]

@@richit9981 hey man, im thinking of having the same build what case, power supply and motherboard would you recommend? im thinking of b650-p for mobo and gigabyte gaming for gpu and corsair 4000d case.

[@Stilloffside]

Just look at the 3000 series. They are nearly as expensive as the 4000 series. So the launch of the 5000 won't instantly cause a drop in price for 4000. That and scalpers and inventory means that any 5000 series that launches will take 6 months minimum to get into most people's hands.

[@Oliver-sn4be]

If y get it from store yes but used I see a 3090 for 600

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

If you can find them look at the rx 6000 series. For example the rx 6800 has been around for under 400 lately new. Glad I got a 6800xt late last year for 440.

[@TriPBOOMER]

What are you on about?? you can readily pick up a 3090 for £600-£650, that card was £1200+ before the 4000 series, and dropped soon after, the reason the lower in the stack has kept its value is demand, eg. throw a small overclock on a 3060 and you have a 4060 with 12gb vram and no frame gen and for £260, its a no brainer.

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

@@TriPBOOMERdon’t forget regarding frame generation, I think you can use amds newest versions of fsr and maybe their frame generation tech on the older nvidia cards ironically lol.

[@TriPBOOMER]

@@Averagedude-mi3fl Oh I haven't forgotten Nvidia knows how to 'dress' the appeal of a generation, I mean there might be some BS hardware reason, and that is coming from a Nvidia user. and yes FSR FR is available on 3000 series and earlier, but ironically it probably works better on a 3000 series Nvidia, purely because of Reflex+ to help with its latency

[@TheKproductionsful]

I bought a 4070 Ti Super recently and honestly I'm set until 2028. I'll just ride this one out.

[@derek8564]

No you're not, you will run out of VRAM

[@redclaw72666]

​@@derek8564 16gb is enough unlike consoles lmao

[@justhomas83]

@@derek8564 Oh no he has to play his games on high at 2k overtime say five years easy. It's the end of world right.

[@R6ex]

@@derek8564 Bet you own the 12GB 4070 Ti NON-super. 🤣

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@derek8564No they will not lmao

[@peterwstacey]

Just play older games! Plenty of good games on Steam etc that can run on older hardware

[@davidvela2346]

And emulators, even the 3060 can run ps3 emulation.

[@user-iz3vq4ex3w]

erased my 4tb games adulting still on rtx 2070 😂

[@kanayanfantv]

@@user-iz3vq4ex3w And I with a 1070 lol Eager to update!

[@jeevan1198]

Great video, thanks. Keep it up.

[@bellick4]

good advice and here is another thing you might want to consider, the halving happened a few hours ago and the crypto cycle is starting again, it wont happen overnight and nothing is guaranteed but gpu scarcity might come back "soon"

[@NGreedia]

Hoping price to performance gets a significant improvement in the near future as things have been stagnant for way too long. my 3060 which I've only had for 2 years is already having to make compromises at 1080p to get a 60+fps in newer games. I have to pay around double the price to get a newer "mid range" card

[@derek8564]

You can thank NVIDIA for that

[@redclaw72666]

​@@derek8564you must very poor then lmao

[@Oliver-sn4be]

​@@redclaw72666some people upgrade only once every fy years I got my 1070 ti 😂 ill upgrade 5000 or amd cash 💸 is cash 💸 fly away

[@sir1junior]

6700 XT has 12gb of VRAM, it plays at 1440p with no issues.

[@robertp457]

Well might as well bury those hopes. The graphics market saw people paying double or more for scalped video cards so they saw the market could handle increased prices. Blame all of those people for paying well above MSRP for today’s prices.

[@ErockOnTech]

Good video! I’ve been thinking about making a similar video lol. I’m so behind these days. I think waiting is best if a person can.

[@klaustrussel]

I would also wait to see issues popping up via reviews (Thanks to your videos I'm thinking about buying and AMD cpu for my first DIY build) better late than sorry!

[@Stunlokked]

no don't buy just keep on waiting forever.

[@astreakaito5625]

There's no reason to wait because Nvidia have us by the balls. Lovelace won't get price cut, while the 5080 will still offer a narrow bus width and only 16gb vram for only 1300$. And people will buy it anyway. I hate this clown world.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Damn it’s not that serious buy or don’t.

[@Bludgeta9001]

Send in the Clowns

[@mikebruzzone9570]

Good report and the best prices on current run end have started and deepen into q3 and q4 entering clearance in q1 2025 and liquidation into q2 2025. mb

[@flyingdragoncar4975]

My 3080 works just fine :)

[@mynameisforrest]

Bought a 4070 this other day, will last me a long time. Had the 1060 6gb for like 7 years so…

[@CornDogMommy]

If you're buying your parts individually-one at a time every paycheck like me.. then set your GPU to last to purchase. It's summer rn, so by fall you'll know if the new cards at the hopefully same price is better

[@neti_neti_]

12:09 Yes , please do CPU version of this video , Arrow lake vs Zen 5 .

[@TinyTusk]

i have a 1070 currently, so i am just gonna wait until i see what nvidia and AMD has next launch, i have had this one for so long, i can wait a little longer

[@xTIMKAx]

i sold my rtx 4070ti for 650 Euro and bought rtx 3080 12gb for 350 Euro. -15% fps + 300 Euro for next gen gpu

[@Yandross]

Yep, sensible advice here, good job.

[@mariusjohannessen9626]

Buy a GPU now and be happy with it, or wait for something new. If you wont be happy now, waiting for something new might ber right for you.

[@mahouaniki4043]

Already got 7900XTX in 4K primary PC, and an used 3090 for 2K spare PC (since AMD driver sucks). I should be fine for the next few years.

[@darvader00]

I just hope the 5080 is 1000 or under and fits in my itx build.

[@kristofvanderveen34]

It will be 899 20 procent faster then 4090 4090 will be 400 2nd hand rofl

[@sc9433]

Buy used Gpu if u really need to buy now. Dont buy new gpu. Looking at how intel arcs just keeps getting better with each driver updates, im really excited for battlemage.

[@NocturnEternal]

Same. I got burned by NVIDIA and I thought I’d go with something else completely. Running an ASRock Arc A770 16GB, drivers just keep getting better. Not looking back.

[@carpelunam]

If GPUs start costing 2,000-3,000 Im out, Ill just go touch grass lmao you all can pretend to afford it if you want to but average American finances says you cant

[@Chris-ih4hj]

Don’t know about that but if you have saved money this would not be a problem I myself save up 100 bucks every paycheck that’s how I was able to keep my 980ti,1080ti,2080ti,3090, and 4090 and now just waiting for 5090

[@An-intricate-man]

Anyone with a job can if they aren’t living paycheck to paycheck to paycheck which most aren’t just open a savings account drop some in every paycheck and then by release you’ll have enough

[@thetruestar6348]

@@An-intricate-manyou commenters have to be some nvidia shills to think that pricing getting that bad is reasonable

[@An-intricate-man]

@@thetruestar6348 no im no Nvidia fan boy lol I’m just saying they’re overpriced yes but not impossible to obtain for the average American

[@Bludgeta9001]

I had enough money stashed aside to buy an rtx 4080 super. Granted it took a while

[@lemoniadapolska1655]

if i have r5 5600x should i upgrade now or wait for this rtx 5000 release date

[@phillipcoetzer8186]

Well if the card is doing what you need then don't buy end of story ... the longer you wait the more bang for money you will get ... if you need to upgrade for realistic reasons then do so ... even if it be second hand

[@johnl2613]

Not sure if you have a 4080 or 4090 (unless you are worried about the power connector lol). Of course if you wanna hit 240hz at UUW...

[@robertp457]

Buy when you need, but only after the latest has been released to and tested by the public.

[@mgaming7]

Some like to just stay behind one series just to scoop up the good prices. I almost pulled the trigger on the 7900XT when it had rebate making it $649. Could keep it til the 6000 series came out and got the 5080 on sale.

[@Sena-pi]

I'm currently running a 6700 XT. I was planning on buying 7900xtx at the end of the month to pair with my 7800x3d. (Couldn't afford high end GPU when i built my system so tossed in my old GPU) Should I wait until the 5080/5090 comes out or just buy the 7900xtx. Edit: I'm a Twitch streamer, I find myself maxing out the 12GB of vram pretty frequently. Typically i have to compromise on graphic settings due to vram overload. I do have a 3 monitor setup.

[@valorantstreamerguy91]

As streamer go for nvida Nvida broadcast and the nvec codec since a nobrainer

[@Sena-pi]

@@valorantstreamerguy91 So I should wait for the 50 series then? I've gotten so use not using nvec anymore. That it doesn't really bug me. My need is more raw power and high vram. 16GB 4080 super won't cut it Vram wise I believe.

[@valorantstreamerguy91]

@@Sena-pi nvec ist best way of efficient streaming, and broadcast provides a software based green screen use both its exelent. And it happens of your need for hardware now i got a 3060 and wait now to go for 5070

[@valorantstreamerguy91]

3060ti

[@Sena-pi]

@@valorantstreamerguy91 I'm trying to avoid the low to mid end graphics cards. That's why I was looking at the 7900xtx because from the benchmarks I saw. Depending on the title it out preforms the 4080 super by 1% to 13%. II live in Canada so the 4090 is like $2500 here.

[@user-xz9uj9jo4h]

If can get a brand new 4090 for around $1300 USD (taxes included) in a couple of weeks, should I pull the trigger?

[@johnc8327]

Depends on what you are trying to do. For 4k gaming the 4090 is plenty fast, and buying now will save you 4-6 months of waiting.

[@user-xz9uj9jo4h]

@@johnc8327 Gaming in 4K, but also interested in running local LLMs.

[@mitsuhh]

You're never going to find a brand new 4090 in a couple weeks for $1300

[@brudel001]

I would say YES for sure. Theres no question that the 5090 is gonna have even higher MSRP - not to mention actually higher prices because of scalperes and demand. At the moment we are in the situation where the new gen doesn't just replace the last gen with roughly the same prices but the new gen is way more expensive meaning that the last gens prices won't drop asmuch. Now if the new card costs same then you probably won't be able to get it for a long time. If its way more expensive a lot people then go for the 4090 and the ones allready having them won't sell them. The outcome is same - the demand for the 4090 raises and the price won't drop. Best deal would be to get second hand card from someone who is thinking of getting 5090 and selling their 4090 now for good price in fear of 5080 being faster for a 1300$ - so they are willing to selle the 4090 for like 1300 or even less. Its a far fetch but that would be the best deal.

[@user-xz9uj9jo4h]

@@mitsuhh I'm not in the US. I saw a few at $1,200 (taxes included) in November 2023. Zotac, but still.

[@juanford55]

Also there is rumors that the 5060 could still come out with only 8GB... Imagine if they charge you 400$ for that in 2025.

[@mitu123Copper]

Wow...that would be crazy if that's true!

[@arjun220]

I would want to wait but my 1070 just died yesterday.

[@hypnoticlizard9693]

How about this? You dont always have to buy the highest tier. Thats a much higher risk when closing on the newest tier. 4070 super is pretty good value right now.

[@alireza12sm]

Should I buy it or wait

[@mingslif2]

Yes you can Hold, yes there will be new products around the corner and will be better, but think about life, you dont even know what will happen next day, so get what you can afford and enjoy. I bought a 4070super just now and enjoy every minute of it, you can buy anything but not time, dont look back in couple years and start regreating the HOLDS you did today.

[@Kapono5150]

Iv been pretty happy with the 4080, but im interested in 5090 unless its more than a 4090

[@chefffs]

Meanwhile I'm raytracing at 150+ fps on my 7900xtx

[@CrystronHalq]

7900xtx? 150+ fps? On what settings? Medium? Low?

[@demio22]

Yeah, wait at least 1.5y ;) I have 4070S. If a RTX 5070 will be so much faster for a good price, I can still trade it in. It's still ages away.

[@hypnoticlizard9693]

Same, I just ordered a 4070 super for 720 usd (euro prices). I can sell my 3070 for 370 usd on the used market. So its not that much money and I get a 50% boost or more with FG.

[@R6ex]

4090 power connector burning issues still scares me. Better wait for 5090!

[@redclaw72666]

It's probably the same thing lol I'm already 6 months in with my 4090 and no burning issue?

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@redclaw72666No problem with mine either. Sure it’s a thing however I don’t trust people online with how they treat their hardware. I have seen enough 600w low end bronze PSU builds with a 4090 and paired with a 3600x.

[@karl5010]

I hope my 4090 melts so I get a replacement 5080

[@Anthony-Soprano]

Bro its rare af, just an excuse to say you cant afford it

[@thetruestar6348]

@@Anthony-Sopranoit’s not tho

[@Statvar]

Just got a 4070 ti super, this things a beast at 1440p. I feel like if I waited like 6 more months for the 5000 series, I’d maybe save like 200. Honestly not worth the wait in my case. Somehow its considered a midrange card but it doesn’t even feel like it

[@SoundFX09]

Honestly, I appreciate the Coverage on this Video, as I'm looking to get something close to Flagship without actually being one. I'm upgrading from a GT 1030, as it was a Placeholder / Backup GPU for a Previous GPU that I ended up selling due to Financial Hardship hitting me sooner than expected. Right now, I'm deciding between a 6900 XT, 6950 XT, and the New 7900 GRE. I'm also dealing with Size Limitations, as the Phanteks P300 Limits my GPU Size to No Larger than 320mm. I'm leaning towards the Powercolor 7900 GRE Fighter, since it's only 290mm Long but still has Triple Fans.

[@pf100andahalf]

Great video.

[@jeanytpremium]

Even if the 5000 come out it will take 1 Year or so to get the prices of actual 4000 series except for the 5090 Even if the MSRP of the 5090 will be 2.000$ you will still have trouble to buy one for less than 2.500$ anyway

[@tomdub5215]

Just bought a 4090 and if new 5 series that great ill buy it in a year from now,,, i dont mind being a year or two behind at all

[@vastlake]

I bought... a 1070 for $80 canadian, and im happy. Sold the 4090 for $2100 Canadian and just waiting for 5090.

[@MikeBeeTV]

You should always wait for the next thing. I've been waiting since 1980 to get a new PC and my Sinclair ZX80 is still kick it at a blazing 3.25Mhz. I've got my tape drive for loading all the latest games like _Zork_ and its inspiration _Adventure._ That game is so advance you'll only find it on college mainframes.

[@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe]

So I found someone locally selling there 4090 Card and I ended up giving them $900 cash and my RTX3090 card for it. I felt like it was a good deal. Only reason I even wanted to get the card was because, I ordered that Pimax Crystal Light headset and I wanted the best performance I could get. The 5090 card isn't a for sure thing. All Rumors. So if it is released this year. It still won't be available. Because, all the scalpers will buy em up and turn around and sell em for 2x or 3x over MSRP which will probably be overpriced already. So I figured, $900 out of pocket for a 4090 card is good. 😉👌☺️👍

[@cnieto0162]

I'm ready to move to pc for the first time but I'm ganna wait on RTX 5090

[@isekaidev7803]

I'd also like to mention the influence of Rona in 40 series. There is no longer a chip shortage now due to Rona. So, it's only going to be better. No one seems to notice this.

[@kennethwilson8236]

Wait until the new stuff drops

[@batman-rebirth5217]

Am kinda 50/50 because I have a 4090 but it depends on price and performance with the 5090

[@neti_neti_]

Do you think the RTX5070Ti will come with 16GB of GDDR7 VRAM right off the bat, or will Nvidia try to pull a fast one on us again?

[@pseudoscientist8010]

They are predicting the RTX 5080 will have 16g, so no....

[@neti_neti_]

@@pseudoscientist8010 that sucks , Now I'm pretty sure the RTX5xxx series is just a big update to the Ada Lovelace architecture. The real upgrade will probably come after the 5xxx series, with the 6xxx series built on the 3nm process node.

[@mitu123Copper]

@@neti_neti_ After 4070 Ti Super having 16GB VRAM I would be shocked if 5070 Ti doesn't have 16GB.

[@neti_neti_]

@@mitu123Copper yes , RTX5070Ti needs to have at least 16GB VRAM and 10k CUDA core .

[@ezechieldzimeyor4541]

Buy a used GPU. Got an rtx 4080 that OCs very well for only $750 USD. Rtx 5000 series wont beat that price to performance rario so im set with my OLED G8. I'll get the rtx 6090 when it comes out but until then im very happy

[@Sharki33]

People buy 3060 type cards... They are not releasing 5060 right now.

[@mitu123Copper]

Yeah I think RTX 5060 could be summer 2025(if it's a repeat of RTX 4060 release).

[@xlr555usa]

Im waiting to see if the 4060 ti 16gb gets near 300 range, im not seeing these cards sell. They have always been in stock everywhere. I could use it as a backup card and hack it since its expendable

[@RAM_845]

My RX 6800 doing fine....waiting for a worthy successor before I pull the trigger regards upgrade, I have a 5800X3D

[@ZackSNetwork]

Your gonna need a stronger CPU the 5800x3d doesn’t cut it.

[@RAM_845]

@@ZackSNetwork Problem is, I don't want to replace the CPU as I bought it last year, Don't want to replace the PSU either because, I know the AM5 requires more than 850watts total.

[@expoza5245]

RX8800XT

[@RAM_845]

@@expoza5245 Hopefully it'll still utilize the 2x 8-pin...my PSU is still good from 2018

[@An-intricate-man]

@@ZackSNetworkno he won’t lmao that cpu will be fine for most gpu’s in 1440p

[@blooodtier820]

Upgraded from a 3060ti & got a 7800xt lmao, I’m good

[@AimTrainYT]

“As we edge”

[@NocturnEternal]

Ada Lovelace was a slap to the face for me.

[@nmsumike]

Hold the line!

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Buy what you can comfortably afford now if you need a new card and play the games you want to now. There will always be something newer & faster coming out.

[@kanayanfantv]

xx60 is low range, not mid range. And the actual 4070 is low end, as you said.

[@harveybirdmannequin]

As long as nvidia insists on 12VHPWR connector that's an automatic don't buy which is fine by me because they are overpriced anyways. RX7000 is first generation chiplets. You never buy first gen tech. First gen always has problems. Second gen fixes the major problems. Third gen is when it finally becomes decent enough to consider. There's absolutely no rush to buy and plenty of reasons to wait.

[@PNKoci]

I buy used rx 6800 for 290-300$ in Poland. Good deal? xD Poland have 23% vat tax on new electronic product

[@Deathwish699]

I just bought 4080 super last month because i can see them increasing prices of new cards because of inflation

[@adamtajhassam9188]

im still smiling on my 4090 , i might wait til at least 1 year to upgrade since i got what i need out of this card.

[@oscar21781]

I did the same thing. I got it 2nd hand for $950 for a PNY 4080 Super. Guy had it for a couple weeks and I got to save the tax and a couple dollars under MSRP. At the price I got it for I have no complaints. Nice upgrade from my 3080.

[@Deathwish699]

The games i play will not need more upgrades anytime soon so i am good for 4 years

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@adamtajhassam9188Smart choice, try to save up and get the 5090 if you want it before selling the 4090. Trust me having no GPU for months would be horrible because of low supply and scalpers.

[@heyhey3556]

@@Deathwish699 i would rather say 10 yrs fr

[@gstormcz]

I would be interested for 2x performance over my RX6650XT, then I would still not like power draw jump. I don't expect performance per watt double.👈 Also the reason to go for faster gpu would be probably upgrade from 1440p to 4K which I think is not really a must.👈 Both games I play are online, one of them doesn't even have resolution settings, the other one is competitive, so going for 4K is not good idea. AMD Adrenaline doesn't currently offer RSR in my game, no idea what happened during drivers updates. 👀 Anyway I am interested what next gen going to be both upcoming gpus and cpus. (I hope Intel brings answer to AMD R5 7500f/7600 but better value, it interested pay 2x more for 2x performance over my i3-10100f 😅 That cpu simply frozen my interest even into AMD best value. 12400f doesn't seem that optimal 2x uplift to wow after upgrade.

[@Sheerwinter]

@_@ i want only 3 components now. A low end arc a380 successor (which could be b380) The 15100f (comes with 6 core) (where 2 cores might per high performance and 4 efficiency) (could be 6core 8thread) (or it could be 4 p core and 2 e core means 6core 10 thread) And a ddr5 motherboard for 15gen I have ram 5600mhz I have the ssd not so fast (512gb) And i have a psu of 500 watt and a case. 🔥_🔥 i wanna play pc games, and i have some editing to do.

[@navisoul-oi8mo]

With nvidia prices, im only looking at amd and intel. But they are still expensive for the performance offered. Nvidia n AMD want to shift the mass market for the 500$ price point. Clear as water. Amd Radeon is down 50% revenue for the quarter. They have to offer something competitive in order to increase revenue. I am waiting.

[@mitu123Copper]

Yeah I'm looking into RDNA 4 as well. I just hope Battlemage comes out on time.

[@redclaw72666]

Technically you still have to wait another year for availability lol honestly buy now or whatever you can afford and enjoy gaming 💀 happy with my rtx 4090

[@Orech9]

you can wait forever :D

[@thehahahaha88]

The more you buy..

[@user-so8pf2gl5v]

Why the hell would AMD leave the high end market in the middle of this AI boom? Am I missing something

[@Bludgeta9001]

I ordered an rtx 4080 super because i sold my 3080 to my friend who had his gpu die on him. I'm not waiting 5-11 months to game again waiting for the 50 series.

[@Mr.Magers]

Wait till the 6000 series, it’s going to be 160% faster than anything.

[@IQTUZA]

i just bought my rx 7900 gre

[@D71Gaming]

Buy them all NOW!!!

[@scip11]

I'm just waiting for RDNA5...

[@mitu123Copper]

I'm waiting for RDNA 4(but if it disappoints me then I may go for RDNA 5).

[@Tru_Gamer]

While this does make perfect sense remember you current graphics card will be dropping in value...so you might not want to wait ;) I recently got a 4070 TI SUPER selling my 2080 TI for about £350 I won't be upgrading to series 5, but maybe 6 or 7 again when my GPU is still worth some money!

[@Foo3thoo]

Nvidia is in for a rude awakening the public cannot afford $1500 GPUs anymore. Car repossessions have never been higher, credit 💳 debt has never been higher and the masses are being squeezed by inflation

[@CHICKENANDWATERMELONS]

Have you considered that you're not the target market for their flagship consumer grade CPU?

[@brianrobinson3961]

New rumors that Nvidia will launch with the 5080 first. I hope this isn’t true but I feel it probably is. They want those Blackwell full dies for AI & datacenter where they get huge margins. Once they have enough binned chips they will release the 5090, probably 1st quarter 2025.

[@Mayhemz.95]

I am without a system. Sold my old my old system, 4070ti, 5800x3d. Ddr4 32gb, b450 etc for £1600. So i have that much to spend on a new build. So far i am on track to make a 7800x3d, 4080 super, ddr5 32gb system for £1775. But i dont know whethet yo cheap out and get a 6800 xt. 4070 super or something for now. I dont know if 5000 seties will even be worthwhile or available

[@ArkAstral]

Save a little more and get a 4080S or 5080 if it launches. 6800xt is not any better than the 4070ti you had

[@Raphy_Afk]

Jayztwocents is a sellout. If you can't see this you are naive.

[@sadatislamkhan3707]

Guys I bought a 4060 used for 259 dollar. Have I screwed up??

[@rotto20000]

No

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Yes, it will age like milk and costs $270 new.

[@pseudoscientist8010]

RTX 4080 gets you 4k graphics, which is a benchmark. And if you get an RTX 5080 there will be little reason to upgrade, imo.

[@lil----lil]

I will wait for the RTX 5090 if NOTHING else, I won't have to deal with the melting plugs. :D plus, guaranteed "built-in" A.I features.

[@robertmajors1737]

You really think Nvidia will admit their mistake and not use that stupid plug again? I'm not as optimistic, and I haven't heard anything to the contrary. Nvidia does no wrong, according to Nvidia.

[@shishkebaba]

the plugs will probably melt even faster

[@hakunamatata4892]

I wait to 4070 price much more drop down...

[@tallpaul9475]

I held onto my 4790K / GTX 1080 / SATA3 SSD combo until this month. Still running the GTX 1080, but swapped it to the 12400F, DDR5 6000, and an NVme M.2 SSD. This brought enough new life to sit back and wait on what is coming down the road for GPUs. I think in total, I spent about $425 for everything.

[@roguesquadron521]

I'm debating doing this too. My build is almost 8 years old and still works well with a GTX 1070 FE, but my i5 6600k and the MB is starting to face its limits.

[@tallpaul9475]

@@roguesquadron521 Being a Founder's Edition, I would think that would do just as well or better than my GPU. I went with a mild upgrade in my opinion, but it runs so much smoother, faster, and better yet... cooler. Doesn't use as much power, too. Today is a hot day, I have been able to game all day with the CPU max temperature always below 60 DEG C, the GPU around 55 DEG C, MoBo temp about mid 50s DEG C. I am running the cooler that came with the CPU, but put an aftermarket cooler on the GPU, Morpheus II, which dropped that almost 35-40 DEG C. The computer is no longer a space heater.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Did you buy the 12400F used or new? What price? A CPU, RAM, SSD and logically also a motherboard, all for $425, that's really good.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@roguesquadron521 I'm running a decent AIB GTX 1070 and an R5 3600. It makes sense that your CPU is starting to show its age. If you are happy with the GPU I would look for used or really really cheap new mobo and CPU. AM4 is a great platform to get onto and you can keep your RAM. I am running RAM that is almost 10 years old.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@tallpaul9475 The 10 Series FE still had that terrible blower style cooler. Your setup would be a lot better than that I imagine.

[@fer6010]

There's a better reason for keeping your old card: AI. NVidia is full on this new trend, and nobody knows where the market is going to be in a few years, starting from now. Announced CPUs are getting a NPU. Also a high amout of productivity software is now using AI routines (mind of Davinci Resolve, Premiere, Photoshop, 3D software, etc) and even games probably will benefit of a good AI processing unit. This means that we are living a paradigm change, so may be new GPUS are not about brute power, but AI oriented market, and what that brings to the gaming world. For example, as rumors say, GTA6 will make broad usage of AI routines to control NPCs in the game, and that single fact could make old cards directly unplayable, or even current gen medium range cards may be the bare minimum to run that kind of games. So with that in mind, I'll wait to see what direction software and game developers are taking for the next 1, 2 or even 3 years.

[@melcoyl5412]

Ok

[@marufulislam4311]

i really dont wanna see anymore 8gb card from this new generation

[@crzyces1693]

The 8GB 4060 is not a midrange card. Anything with 8GB or less is entry level and should not be considered by anyone for more than $200 USD. I suppose if you play lightweight competitive shooters it's fine as an entry point, and will obviously run 2017 and previous games quite well, but in early-mid 2024? Entry level budget builds, in which case why not just grab a 6700XT or a used 3060 12GB for less? Lol, sorry for being nit-picky with the example but I saw 8GB and my cheeks got all red with anger thinking about how Nvidia continues to be stingy as heck with VRAM.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Just bought a 4070 super. No youtuber is going to dictate how i spend my money.

[@heyhey3556]

straight up facts! and btw tht card is gonna last you for a good slid 8yrs and more

[@mkatakm]

I don't think battlemage will be able to compete with rtx50xx. RDNA4 won't have flagship cards. I recommend skipping rtx50xx completely and wait for RDNA5 if you already have a good enough card.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

The only way we will see +80% is if you count fake frames as performance, which it definately is not, especially for the lower end. Fake frames are only useful over 60 fps and that is when you care more about input latency, which fake frames do not improve, rather the opposite. If Radeon does not compete Nvidia will follow Intels 14nm +++++++ strategy. $1799 RTX5090 at +10% over the RTX4090.

[@edgarperez8411]

Don't tell me When to buy Take my money!

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

I completely disagree that the 5090 is going to be $2,500. That's just ludicrous lol. Plenty of 4090's in stock everywhere now because they're all priced at $1,800 or above. There is ceiling and they're starting to hit it over $1,800. So imo I think the 5090 will be $1,800. As for the 5080, the rumoured specs make it sounds like less of an upgrade then usual. My thinking is they've also found the ceiling with 80 series class cards. $1000 is pushing it so instead of losing margins they'll make a cheaper card that's more in line with the 4090 in raster ( hopefully they've made good improvements in ray tracing so maybe 20-30% better in RT) and will still be 256bit 16gb vram for $999. $899 would be better but i think they'll push the price as much as they can but not over $1,000

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yeah the 3090 was $1,500. 4090 was $1,700, why are people claiming $2,500 or $3,000 for the 5090. KZbinrs are full of BS. At max it will be $2,000 MSRP.

[@chance0marasso]

Not saying you're wrong but I believe the reason people assume higher prices is the ai boom being very profitable and them they no longer care about giving value at the high end due to amd not being very competitive at the higher end....the enthusiasts continue to pay higher prices no matter what.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@chance0marasso yes I get the a.i boom, but that's not a forever thing. They can't piss off the gamers that will keep them afloat when a.i starts losing its appeal. They also don't want AMD to catch up at all and they have to keep rdna5 in their minds even though it won't be for at least a year and a half from now. It just wouldn't go over well hiking the prices up that high, ridiculous lol. I don't know what the 5090 will end up being but for sure under $2000. $1,800 is my guess....still a price increase. As for the 5080....$900 best case scenario. Most likely $1,000. They can't push any higher than that imo

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@ZackSNetwork I think $2,000 is the absolute worst case scenario. How anyone can say $2,500 with a straight face is beyond me. That's a huge increase to already expensive price lol. I can see it being $1,800 which is already a lot. Me personally, I draw the line at $1,000 which is what the 5080 should be at the most. Why anyone bought a 4080 at $1,200 is a mystery to me lol I'd be ashamed of myself if only got the usual 50% increase but with a 72% increase in price from previous gens. Absolutely ridiculous lol there's only so many stupid people in the world to sell too. As it turns out there's more intelligence then I thought in the world hence why the 4080 sold so poorly. No chance nvidia makes that mistake again

[@lukej9906]

I just bought a 4080.. I haven’t ever had anything other than shit their laptops before and I know I can’t afford a 2,000 card any time soon, so I figured I’d build a 2,200 pc and do my best to cope with the FOMO lol

[@yugdesiral]

Buy now, the 5000 series is not looking good aside from the 5090.

[@smellyfella5077]

I'll sale my kidney for the 5090 and then get on a kidney transplant list because I sold my other one a few years ago for my 4090!

[@derek8564]

Yes...cause you're stupid.

[@Oliver-sn4be]

😂

[@salty-100]

Whats the hate on 4060? Just deal with it, dlss is so much better for fps boost, secondly having ultra settings in cod at 4k wont make you any better if you dont have skills, thirdly even tho its expensive, if you cant buy it, get the previous gen, the wattage is a lot lower than 3000 series. They've got to be on the eco side as well, its an SDG goal cant do non....

[@robertmajors1737]

I hope the 50 series keeps up the trend of odd numbered series dominating the even numbered ones. The 20xx and 40xx (except the retardedly priced 4090) cards are garbage. I went from a 1080 ti to a 3080, and probably a 5080 if they price them decently. Also on my wish list is that Nvidia doesn't force aib's to use that abhorrent 12vhpr connector, but i'm sure they will.

[@orayan11]

Nvidia trying to become apple 🍎 of pc market, trim performance and hike the price and try the ceiling price where consumer can buy