DO NOT BUY A JAGUAR LANDROVER DIESEL - BEFORE WATCHING THIS

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In this short video I talk about what you should look out for when buying a Jaguar or Landrover 2.0 Diesel called the Ingenium Engine. This engine is fitted to a number of vehicles 2016 onwards in the Jaguar Landrover Range.
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[@simonh870]

I know of two people at work who have vehicles with this engine. Their favorite topic of conversation is what has gone wrong with them in the past few weeks. One has cost it's owner £4000 in repairs in the last couple of months.

[@jonathanfrankel6787]

Yup , a friend of mine has one , it’s been off the road more often than it’s been on in the last few months .

[@Altair885]

Worth a mention - The timing chain on these lives at the back of the engine behind the flywheel which is why the job is so expensive. To gain access to it you must remove the transmission and flywheel. Of course while you're that far involved it also makes sense to replace the clutch and possibly the duel mass flywheel at the same time - realistically that could set you back a few thousand quid! Another big issue with these engines that wasn't mentioned is that the coolant system is prone to leaks. It's quite common for those small plastic coolant lines all around the engine to develop cracks, this should be flagged up as a warning on the dashboard once the coolant gets low, but some owners might not take heed of these warnings and the engine can soon become damaged once the level drops far enough. EGR faults are by far the biggest cause of DPF issues. If a fault is detected in the EGR system it reverts the fuel trim settings to a default value, which usually results in an over fuelling situation for most types of driving conditions, this of course accelerates the soot level content of the DPF and also prevents it from regenerating, which in turn can lead to DPF failure. In short anything that prevents a modern diesel from running correctly usually has knock on effects that will be expensive to rectify if not fixed quickly.

[@johanndork5364]

Add balancer shaft problems to that list.

[@blackvulcan100]

No idea why anybody would buy a JLR product !! I have a LR d4 discovery....and I love it !!

[@bamog4560]

Run them on premium diesel , change the oil every 6 months or 5000 miles and full service every 12 months, give them a regular good run on the motorway and this should alleviate any dpf,egr problems

[@tzrgazza]

Why bother?

[@andrewwaller5913]

So many better cars out there

[@devon896]

Service is internal is 21,000 miles or 2 years. Getting the oil & filter done mid way 9,000 miles should be good enough.

[@raycollington4310]

This engine has a timing chain from a Raleigh bicycle and IMO anyone who buys a JLR with their own money, needs their head examining. A fool and his money and all that. Thank you for public service broadcasting and helping inform potential JLR victims .

[@kevinmoffatt]

Put your mind at rest before buying, do the checks and confirm no start up rattle. Then sleep easy waiting for the inevitable? No, think I'll pass, thank you.

[@AndrewPaul]

Those 2.0 Ingeniums are an absolute bomb scare - wouldn't touch with a barge pole. The 2.2 is a bit agricultural but fairly solid otherwise. Driven one once and it was decent enough. I have a 3.0d v6 275bhp in a 2014 XF-S Sportbrake and it's great. They're not without their troubles and regular maintenance is a must (I do an oil change on mine every 5-6k) but look after it and it'll look after you as they say.

[@chrisaris8756]

The DPF “problems” can be largely avoided by doing what JLR recommend and taking the car for a 20 minute run at around 50mph as SOON as the warning comes up on the dash. I had a Jaguar diesel for years and it was faultless. There was never a DPF problem in well over 100k miles because I always adhered to the recommendation

[@wakaflockaproject]

Or get it gutted out

[@-DC-]

Lol no understanding on the design limitations of this garbage power train.

[@zzhughesd]

Correct. Modern life. People just aren't driving 20 mins at speed. They're queuing in traffic idling doing 12/13 miles per hour average across a city. Not good

[@heathermartin8932]

My mechanic also recommended that. Hard for city dwellers as a regular drive is 5 miles or so. Much as I would like to go for a 50 mile drive at motorway speeds the fuel costs are prohibitive. What a conundrum 🤔

[@wakaflockaproject]

@@heathermartin8932 shouldn't be using diesel for city use anyway

[@thindo]

The "finger of death"...O'Rileys. 😂😂😂😂

[@jacobboni3889]

Interesting Video, I spoke to a dealer I know very well and he said to me in honesty just avoid the Ingenium engine as there are plenty of better engines around

[@ceehud]

Very Very Helpful ..... You have helped a few people . Your place in car heaven is now reserved .

[@markbrennan4693]

All premium cars seem to be going to pot. A Beemer with a chain driven motor used to bullet proof, not anymore. Stick it at the back and use nylon guides ! Ford ecobang put a rubber belt and run it in oil. Bring back push rod engines.

[@GrahamGroovyUK]

So in other words, if it starts up and sounds like a Perkins Prima (Feeling old now. Owned 2).... Walk away!

[@carukchannel]

spot on, sounds like a montego countryman leave alone 😂👍

[@philiphughes4117]

Good, honest advice, freely given once again. Thank you, and keep them coming. Much appreciated.

[@davidclarke9767]

A 4x4 garage next to my industrial unit he told me 2 years ago to steer clear of the ingenium engine in his experience if you get 60000 miles out of one your doing well. He breaks Range Rovers and sells the odd one he has a large yard full of JLM products so he has a lot of experience.

[@jonny5682]

My s type runs great looked after regular oil changes n filters I do give her s good boot to keep her unclogged mines the 2.7 twin turbo diesel

[@andrewhumphreys586]

Thanks for the advice, this is very informative and helpful👍

[@Mickster71]

Thanks for this info... Your a gentleman.

[@kingsknightuk]

Owned this exact ipace from new and it was the biggest mistake of my motoring life. Spent more time at the dealer being repaired than on my drive. I had 5 engine management lights in 2 years. So many issues it's unbelievable. It was so funny that the ipace they lent me broke down with the exact same issue I was having. I'll never own a Jag again. Genuinely one of the most stressful things I've ever been through.

[@kingsknightuk]

I think it's worth noting that my ipace had to have a new engine at less than 9k on the clock

[@stepheng8779]

No need to add the last bit. Do not buy JLR would do, I did once, never again.

[@TRD1949uk]

Can we go back to Aston Barclay auction videos please lee. They are some of the best ones to watch!

[@cabottaxi]

Someone nearby has 2 Range Rovers under a year old and BOTH have been in with serious mechanical issues. Can't believe anyone would buy one.

[@lancelongfield5550]

they are junk avoid them like the plague.

[@geetee7154]

This engine is costing owners small fortunes in repairs, engine failure,timing chains, Turbo's & the old favourite DPF, I know these things intimitly in my day to day job, worryingly, people drive the things & seem to ignore the issues

[@scotty6346]

Due to frankly stupid long service intervals the first thing that goes on the 2.0 litre ingenium is the turbo and the engine munches on the bits, Also the timing chain is weak with crappy plastic tensioners and runners, Avoid at all cost.

[@thatcheapguy525]

Bloke down the pub: "I just bought a new Jaaag with 'dis Ingenium engine in it" Geeza down the pub: "yeah, I've got one of them disingenuous engines too init"

[@Fireman9ify]

The problem with those ingenuim engines its not if it will trouble, its when does it give trouble

[@dallas6847]

😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍

[@leegorman8322]

I've always had the thought with JLR their one step away from a project car? 🤔

[@vwgolffancarreviews7111]

Some models of Discovery don't have that engine it has got a 3 l engine

[@jonron4729]

👍👍👍

[@neilwharton720]

I’d rather know what’s happening with the dreaded mini😳🙉🙈

[@rogerkretzschmar8280]

What's the story with the one in the video Lee? Are you retailing it or trading it on?

[@carukchannel]

it’s a vehicle I have done some work on for a customer

[@fv1291]

Buy an American Crown Victoria that will last forever!

[@wakaflockaproject]

Are the patrols reliable?

[@tzrgazza]

Wet belts,egrs,dpfs ect modern cars are shite...

[@aymachhunt67]

Waste of £70/80k?

[@k-ti6pq]

He will buy one next month

[@-DC-]

Absolute garbage long term should have been brilliant in reality nothing but trouble

[@tonywatson1412]

Anything with the word jagaur or rover is shite

[@ColinGarner-h1t]

Haven’t Jaguar gone bust ?

[@joshua6244]

No. JLR has not gone bust. Landrover have long waiting lists, such is the demand.

[@MegaReddevil71]

Ingenius engine 😂 it's junk anyone who buys one of these must be mad