DO NOT BUY A NEW AVENTURA CATAMARAN - MY50 out of water hull inspection (one year after completion)

[@josesoares7510]

My list of manufacturers just got shorter. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@EdwardTeach-k6d]

Looked at Aventura at Annapolis Boat show so poorly constructed its terrifying. Thanks for sharing.

[@jmkikkawa]

I love this surveyor. He's very knowledgeable. He's great to point out the hydrodynamic vacuum created by the ridiculous design of the hull bottom near the props. Awful, and I'm not sure what remedy one can pursue there. Go to a thin keel? In any event, that's back in the manufacturer's court. It's a design flaw and they have to fix it. No way is re-engineering the hull the job of an owner of a new boat.

[@smannee]

As a boat owner, my heart aches for the owners of this boat. I hope the builders make it right.

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

Fat chance. That boat is shambolic - no effs given.

[@rohanveal]

This is the problem, the builder didn't even want to know about the issues, so I had to pay to get everything fixed without compensation.

[@raeanker3078]

@@rohanveal. That says a lot about your character, still honest people out there good on you mate.

[@smannee]

@@rohanveal I am so sorry to hear that. I hope you are back on the water enjoying your boat and the ocean soon.

[@spacewalktraveller1]

You know a good builder, they always stand behind their work. This company is a disgrace to the boating industry.

[@beunhaas102]

After only seeing video's of the Aventura cat's from boat shows I thought the (apparent) quality/price was quite impressive. Always wondered how they would fair in the real world though but never found any useful reviews/video's. So thanks a lot for sharing, it looks awful. My take away is that it is the best boat to buy if you only have another year to live.

[@rogerbrandt6678]

Buying that boat will make your point valid.

[@7divad37]

Nice one Shazza, you are "The Site Inspector" of the boating industry, go after these shoddy bastards!

[@pwrplay8709]

The wrong person always ends up holding the bill. Good luck with your action.

[@MichaGero]

I own a 43ft Jeanneau bought in 2013 new. There was an issue with an internal support beam. They sent a 500 kg wooden crate full of stuff to do the repair all the way to Australia. Then they flew in two frenchies and got the job done in a week. There’s too much that can go wrong with such a piece of kit, do not buy from a non established player. The issues on your boat are most probably the tip on the iceberg, expect the same level of quality in every inch of you boat. Wish you good luck.

[@rohanveal]

I am also a Jeanneau dealer, and I can confirm that they are the benchmark for after sales support in the marine industry.

[@aktxyz]

Good point on the every inch … if the stuff you easily access is shoddy … imagine what’s hidden away! No sanding, no primer … just slap on paint and looks good long enough for final payment.

[@douglasmontgomery6315]

@@rohanveal , I've heard differently for their NCXXX powerboat product lines

[@robertfontaine3650]

This seems to be a common story right across the industry. I am reading similar warranty fiascos across half a dozen manufacturers. Shoddy original work and then they can't afford to provide the warranty coverage and try to get out with cash settlements that will never cover the costs tied to NDAs.

[@gerbil7771]

Yeah most notable is the wynns mess of a sailing boat.

[@james94582]

That looks like a boat that's been in service and in the water for a long while... but it is a new boat.. I would say I hope you're able to get that all repaired and corrected, hoping it was just a worker on an off day and not how the manufacturer does business!!

[@rohanveal]

The boat was actually completed one year late and then delivered to the client one year after it was finally completed, because Aventura was contracted to deliver the boat to Genoa for shipping, however their delivery skipper parked the boat into the wrong berth in Genoa and then hit the two boats either side while removing it. Consequently the insurance companies of those two boats got a court order to sieze our client's boat until a ridiculous ransom was paid by our client to cover the cost of repairs. Meanwhile the ship left without our client's boat and I was forced to pay the $100,000 in shipping fees again as Pantaneous insurance would not cover any of the costs. When the boat eventually arrived, numerous problems were found and I was forced to spend over $100,000 to fix them without any reimbursement from Aventura. This boat is way better now than it was when it left the factory, and is actually a amazing boat, but it goes without saying that I am no longer a dealer for Aventura. Notet that it is rare that they ever reply to their emails, but if they do, it is always to provide excuses or deny any responsibility whatsoever. Absolute disgrace and real shame as the boat design is brilliant. Consequently I am taking legal action against them now. Stay tuned...

[@Antipodean33]

@@rohanveal How did you fix the cavitation problem and also how do you think such a bad mistake could happen on the design table? There seems to be a few really bad quality problems with a few cat builders popping up in the last couple of years

[@jonesjones7057]

​@rohanveal not trying to be a dick but how can it be an amazing boat when the design itself causes such severe cavitation, that it eats rudders? Surely that wasn't fixed for 100k am I right? Did you find a way to mitigate or solve that issue on the cheap?

[@peterjohnstone7277]

Good luck getting this sorted out. If they are a good company, they will stand behind their product.

[@Angelboy99]

You cannot stand behind an intentional faulty product like this one. This goes beyond warranty repairs. This is a lemon.

[@beunhaas102]

They are incredibly cheap so I doubt they will rectify these issues.

[@Dan-yj4ul]

Thats why I’ll be buying a used boat. When these issues are found on the haul out, it will reflect on the purchase price. It can all be fixed, but it wont be cheap.

[@RobertButcher-z1u]

What have the manufactures said about this and how do they plan to fix the crap workmanship. I feel deeply for you and thanks for sharing.

[@CrazyWhiteVanDriver]

Thats an awesome job. Top quality workmanship

[@vgskiddles3766]

Best of luck in your legal battle! I do hope you get your monies back and then some!!

[@rohanveal]

I am hoping this video and these comments help

[@kolingro3776]

I would be seeking a Refund and return the Boat, To many issues for a Vessel of that age, Im not sure of other owners having similar problems, but certainly future owners would think twice....

[@rohanveal]

There is no such thing as a refund which manufacturers like this. The boat is fixed now anyway, I just want the $100k back that I spent fixing their problems! Can't wait to come face to face with them at the Cannes boat show next year. Will make sure I get it on video.

[@kolingro3776]

A Court order, to refund is not that unusual, regardless I feel for you and the battle that you face.... I wish you safe Sailing ahead, Thanks for Sharing.....

[@wmclare]

I just sent a link of this video to their contact us page..... Suggesting that people are watching and should do something about it. Scott Morrison could deal with it as he has a good relationship with the French boat builders.

[@NeverHaveKids]

A broader point. This is why *anything* with a fuel or an EV engine depreciates so rapidly. Cars, boats, planes, land or sea equipment, it all craters in value once used. Things built today don’t last, the warranty periods are short. And if you happen to buy a poorly engineered or constructed product, like this boat, repair costs can rise to a significant percentage of the sale price - just to fix the damn thing.

[@MichelvanderZwaard-cj4nb]

Oh no that’s so bad, sorry to hear that.

[@DiederikAms]

Insightful. Very educational. 🤯

[@Harrybollox]

My boat is a 96, i think I’ll keep it, looking at the horror stories on KZbin with modern boats

[@sheilamorrison1954]

Smart move. Like cars, they are built like ass these days. Older is better.

[@royhindmarsh4087]

sell and run a mile? or go down with it to bottom

[@LaszloBagi]

Wow, the manufacturer should be embarrassed..... but I'm sure they are not

[@cigsandbeer4115]

what are the more favorable catamaran MY manufacturers?

[@grahamt8434]

Reminds me of a 1970s Bayliner for build quality

[@superyachtchef]

🌟 Top 10 yacht review 👌

[@bsm2001yt]

And there there are the Hallberg-Rassy's of the world where quality is everything! I don't know what this boat costs relative others in its class but sometimes you get what you pay for.

[@jamesbrooks5442]

Ive heard bayliners are very shoddy built dont take them in rough water

[@bobbrown8661]

Dang was just about to order 10, will hold off for now

[@quarkkinoanimals5444]

Are they on sale? 10? You sound poor. Good to you.

[@Joey-nq2ec]

Glad I had my years of fulltime cruising on a solidly built trawler and now it has been sold. Never had any of these issues. Seems CAT building is more complex than these builders are able to handle but some of these issues are basic; they ate simply cuttin corners to keep costs down.

[@Gatorflyer]

I would’ve guessed this boat was at least 15 years old after watching the first 5 min. Only one year old!! 🤯

[@geoffreytoomey682]

boy I'm glad I sent 6 years part time building my 43 foot Cat myself Foam sandwich, epoxy and Kevlar and woven glass hand laminated, it's been 24 years since launching and no structural issues at all, the deck non skid needs doing again, raw sugar sprinkled onto wet polyurethane, 2 days wash the sugar away, sand of the hi points where the paint sucked up the surfaces of the raw sugar crystal, it's a big job but did once 24 years ago. Thanks for showing how poorly built these flash looking boats actually are.

[@kolsen6330]

Try using deck paint mixed with fine dry sawdust for nonskid.. Make it just thin enough to brush on. Nice and easy on feet and can be touched up in seconds.

[@kolsen6330]

Try using deck paint mixed with fine dry sawdust for nonskid.. Make it just thin enough to brush on. Nice and easy on feet and can be touched up in seconds. The sawdust doesnt damage varnish.

[@deanweber4370]

how old is this? how long has it been in the water ?? why wasn't it inspected before it was put in the water?? all honest questions is all

[@howardwilliams7399]

What a disgrace of a company that built the boat. 💩

[@xx-pm5if]

THANKYOU

[@CatFinder3000]

Anyone that wants quality should go have a look at Bering yachts, they have 3 hulls of their new catamaran line under construction.

[@valsables5299]

Where are they made . country

[@-Bigjordan]

My boat had the same issues so i sunk it problems solved

[@chip9177]

A Tunisia, the boat building capital of the world. I am sure it looked nice at time of purchase. Lipstick on a pig. Careful with the repairs, could be more lipstick.

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

It was the cheapest price. It was supposed to make a big profit but someone got left holding the kitty litter. Buyer beware! When he hired a skipper he must of hired 'the Greek captain'

[@adcengineer3090]

Bugger I just bought three 😊

[@Antipodean33]

What is with these dreadful cat builders, Lagoon, Leopard, Rapido and now this Aventura company. It blows my mind that they're getting away with producing and selling boats that you could argue are death traps. Not to mention just outright ripping people off. Also the design flaws this fella is pointing out with the props and rudders is mind blowing, you'd think this cavitation business would've been worked out decades ago, unbelievable, who designed that anyone know?

[@rohanveal]

It was designed by Samer Laster in France. I think the issue with the rudders was engineering and manufacturing, as we fixed the problem by making two new rudders from stainless steel, but they were not as thick and had a shorter chord so the leading edge didn't protrude as much and there was more clearance to the props. We also fitted a smaller annode on the end of the prop, and then put more annodes on the shafts. It drives so much better now, as it has a higher top speed and there is no vibration through the hull anymore.

[@lutomson3496]

Dominican company never trust one

[@AndrewClelland]

@@rohanveal But surely replacing the rudders doesn't fix the cavitation? It will continue to eat your props and hull...

[@Tequila_on_the_rocks]

Auch glad it is not my boat :(

[@ianbritton_UK]

Looks like they were rushing to get it looking "good" for the show - of course, poor preparation makes a poor job - feel for you 😞

[@peskachina]

Crazy😮

[@juliandrake3159]

What would it cost to fix all these problems? I'm guessing they will be fixed by the owner, sucks to have so many major problems with a brand new motor yacht.

[@rohanveal]

I was the dealer/importer and it cost me over $100,000 to fix all the issue on the boat, and now the manufacturer refuses to reimburse me.

[@kglesq1]

@@rohanveal I sincerely hope you sue them into the ground. That thing is absolute garbage and there is no way they didn't know that when they delivered it.

[@1mmickk]

@@rohanveal The Courts take a dim view of people doing their own repairs then trying to claim the cost back. Youre supposed to go through the process and be awarded monies to rectify. That money you can do what you wish with, buy a car, the Court doesnt care. You have some video evidence of problems but the builder can claim most of the hull was damaged in transit. Hes had no access to do his own inspection. You wont get a cent out of him unless he has a conscience. Hes got videos of it leaving the yard in pristine condition. You come back 12 months later and its full of holes? Hes in the winning position at this stage. Park it at every Boatshow with a big list of faults and costs. Thats all you can do unless the builder is feeling generous.

[@Mash333]

“It is actually a really well designed boat…” is going to be a featured quotation in the upcoming legal action.

[@richystar2001]

Big boats are holes in the water that you throw your money into.

[@dwrowley]

that is shocking saying it's only 12 months old, looks like it's 20 years old

[@nextari]

oof. sorry mate. Is it possible the Aventura sail cats 34 and 37 are made in a different facility and may be ok? or is the company just trash all around? That's horrible.

[@rohanveal]

I can't speak for the 34's, however I sold a 37 and a 44 to Australian owners and they both had massive delays and a number of issues with the factory before and after handover. It was a nightmare dealing with them and getting them to even respond to emails was a major challenge. They have about 3 factories in Tunisia now and different models are made in different factories, but they have a big problem finding staff who know what they are doing, so it only takes someone who isn't trained properly to make a simple mistake that causes big problems later on.

[@nextari]

@@rohanveal 💯 thanks! would you avoid buying a used one also then? or just do a really good inspection? it seems most of the issues were with the hull but all that cracking and failed bearing is a horror show.

[@MichaelMcAuley-z1v]

Been seeing very expensive boats 100k and up having all very low quality builds. Wiring all crazy not tighten up ,Gel coat very poor workmanship . It is very apparent the boat builders have lost all respect to detail and are not training people in the workplace. The Boat manufacturers are in the same situation as the Automotive manufacturing. They seem to have been only interested in Profits and short cutting for the last 5 years now and it’s Not going to end well and most likely will close their doors.The public will not accept this and not be spending their hard earned money on this junk.

[@rohanveal]

It has always been difficult for any boat builder in third world countries to find skilled staff, and Tunisia is no exception. The problem is poor management, continually over promising and then under delivering. That is why I am very selective in which manufacturers I work with now as this isn't my first rodeo.

[@timf6916]

WOW

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

This is so common these days. Aventura is giving Aquila a run for shoddy quality.

[@user-gq4ch1pd4c]

Crap design and execution. I'll be staying FAR away from this when I buy

[@rohanveal]

The design is actually really good, however the execution is poor and the after sales support is virtually non-existent.

[@ThomasKuhar]

@@rohanveal Uh, CAVITATION??

[@anthony1636]

Sorry to say this but its not unusual in the boat building world. I work in the wind farm vessel supply business. And a company that I know who supplies vessels to wind farm companies. Bought some vessels "Cats" from a Spanish builder obviously cheap. They were a disgrace and of course they went into liquidation before any major warranty work could be undertaken.

[@gregchristofi1318]

Wow, this is shocking.

[@kevinacronin]

Wow, quite a list of issues on a $1Million boat...

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

Do not buy a new boat or motorhome. They are thrown together as fast and cheap as possible and they count on new owners to do their quality control for them. They only need to fix those things that are so bad that its worth taking them all the way back and doing without for the months it will take to correct their manufacturing defects.

[@davedavids9619]

Was this boat bought new or did you buy it second hand ? When this was new, who did the final delivery inspection ? If I were you I would sue Aventura yachts. They maybe in Tunesia, but if you bought it anywhere in Europe the law would be on your side.

[@SaltyMcBoatFace]

ive worked on boats that were 50 years older than that & in better condition , absolutley shocking for what is supposed to be a new boat , so many of those issues could be the end of the boat & the owner in the wrong situation, i would sue aventura into oblivion

[@user-gq4ch1pd4c]

Shameful, these Aventura clowns take zero pride in their workmanship or reputation obviously, !!

[@allaboutyachting]

Holy shit 😢 What a piece of crap. I always stayed with premium builders and good surveyors before buying a boat. Good luck 🤞🏻

[@larrymeyer2917]

Time customers get some protection from poor manufacturing. This boat needs serious repairs or it will be scrapped in 10 years. Osmosis will kill that hull.

[@rohanveal]

The hull was stripped back, repaired, epoxied and antifouled properly, so there should no be any more issues with the hull anymore.

[@larrymeyer2917]

@ impossible to fix that cavitation problem so quick, if ever. This boat needs a survey to check for proper penetration of the resin into glass matting.

[@alexmeyjes5533]

wow

[@danb8877]

thats why u fly over and make sure shit is done before it leaves the factory. there's a reason well built boats cost a fortune and price point boats fall to pieces on delivery.

[@dantespeakdigital]

What a nightmare

[@joewilliams918]

So sorry for all your problems on a new boat. Such poor workmanship. Where is the quality control? And people like to bash Bayliners. My 4588 has none of these issues after 32 years.

[@0e32]

Sad to watch this video..

[@richardkaye2228]

Jesus that boat is not worth fixing ,if somebody can’t roll out a tie layer of glass imagine the rest of the boat ,this boat needs to be scraped I feel for the poor owner

[@rohanveal]

So did I, so that is why we spent 6 months fixing all the problems and ended up costing me $100k!

[@richardkaye2228]

@ you would literally have to gut that boat to a bare shell and start again , 100k does not go far in boat dollars , it’s hard to be leave this can still happen today

[@1mmickk]

Sadly its quite a common problem. These people are not Shipwrights or Boat Builders, they are glorified cabinet makers who have no clue about water. The profit margin in boats attracts Cowboys. On the other hand, people are too loose with their money,, they dont do research and they dont employ a marine Architect to go over plans etc. Use it for a few years and sell it mentality, comes back to bite you. So they build boats to last a few years, thats all. Buyers need to take back control of the market. I buy hurricane damaged boats from Florida by the ship load. None have the inbuilt issues this disgrace has. Manufacturing defects is what they are, youre off to Court and do it quick because companies vanish.

[@captain776]

This did not happen overnight. When was last time out of the water……..it’s called Maintenance.

[@thesausage351]

It’s a 12 month old boat.

[@gatecrasher1970]

what the saying go? "a fool and his money are easily parted" no survey spotted all this?

[@rohanveal]

There were multiple surveys done on the boat after it arrived so we knew what needed to be fixed, however you should not need to do a survey on a brand new boat that has a factory warranty. I did also try to get two surveys done on the boat before it went into the water and after it was in the water, but the factory made it very difficult to do a full inspection and test drive of the boat, as they were clearly hiding something. I could only take their word that the boat was good as it had done many miles in open water to France for a boat show.

[@MrButtonpresser]

Cars are enough trouble, but boats!?

[@sausage5849]

Looks like she ran into something there on the bow.

[@rohanveal]

The manufacturer dropped damaged the bows in the factory after it was antifouled just before launching, so they did the repair over the top of the antifoul!!! So we stripped the hull back and repaired it properly, then applied new epoxy and new antifoul.

[@clarencenew881]

I don’t believe that its only 1 year old

[@lutomson3496]

Warranty replacement and.full refund

[@standubaj8989]

P. O.S.! I feel sorry for the owner

[@davecoz4227]

Tunisia

[@sawmill123456]

Geez what are you complaining about it’s just some small items!!!😂😂😂

[@LaszloBagi]

Built in China?

[@SV_Freeman]

No, in Tunisia

[@soloaquatics]

Only 1 year old catamaran?? Wow that’s terrible work ethic!

[@markmisske6875]

How much did you pay for this crap?? I have a 1974 Grand Banks in polyester and I have absolutely no problems! The hull is as smooth as a baby's ass and everything is in super good condition! I've done a lot of repairs now, but that's completely normal after 50 years... These days, a lot of people are just interested in making a quick buck! The main thing is to make a lot of money quickly!! The quality like back then is hard to find these days.

[@bsb11kat25]

That is only 1 year old??????......

[@emspera]

I believe these are cheaply made in North Africa.

[@mr.ginnationfunlifestyle3891]

Truly a big mess and a piece of trash. No words on this. 😮

[@4port]

That's not a new boat.....

[@rohanveal]

Tell me about it! We got it one year after it went into the water!

[@johnnyb3987]

Man, that's really sad. What a pile of junk.

[@larrybuzan7687]

Boat manufacturers are cutting more and more coners and changing more money for a pace of trash

[@Rvalivesound]

Should have gone with something tried, true and tested. Hard to believe this is one year worth of use. I lived solo onboard a monohull (Carver) for three years and never saw this much wear. No boat design is perfect, but cats require some smart design compromises. As far as the anodes, trim tabs and care of your hull (bottom paint)... that is up to the owner to keep tabs on (no pun intended) and keep fresh (haul out inspection bottom/antifouling paint refresh as required etc). Anodes don't last forever, they are sacrificial by design. You gotta replace them as needed. Bottom paint can wear out fast if you leave your boat sitting. I can only imagine how terrible it would be to use a catamaran that is poorly designed and also neglected like this. Keep it simple and affordable and enjoy more days on the water and fewer on the hard waiting for service. Carver was a good choice back in the day. A decent, affordable(ish) brand in the 1990s and early 2000s.

[@paulypaulypauly8011]

@aventura - A response please.

[@doctorshawzy6477]

my 1979 sailboat ( c&c 24) is in far superior condition...

[@spacewalktraveller1]

That is a disgraceful build if I've ever seen one.

[@phedrob3735]

I wouldn't even consider repairs; you don't know what other hidden dangers are lurking. The only solution is a full refund

[@ChikiKaboomkaboom]

Waow Aventura, its african company

[@mrsiborg]

Wow, what a horror show.

[@casybond]

Sad story of Beneteau sinking recently because rudder post was attached to flimsy 1/2 inch plywood and caulking. Once this broke loose boat took on water: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqGYkKqbpMZloacsi=Pfd4Ey9fSwupg3B2&t=1007

[@cirrlus]

what a mess

[@brucethecurmudgeon8538]

BOAT....Break Out Another Thousand.

[@anthonyjarvis9472]

how is that legal, what backwards country allows a company to sell a brand new product without any warranty. would you buy a supercar without a warranty. this is a disgrace but you would really naive to buy this boat.

[@tomascarlsson1856]

What a crap looks like 80s

[@tna--]

built in tunisia...what good could be expected what a piece of JUNK