Do NOT Buy Lowering Springs for Your Car

[@KaylaRundle]

Awesome video. I’ve said this to as many Camaro owners as possible… BUY ONCE CRY ONCE!! Buy KW Suspension Coil-overs… cry at your bank account but forever be grateful every time you drive the car you’ll realize it’s worth.

[@andrewterry9577]

I've come to like BC Racing for my 6th gen. The only reason I get to buy twice and cry twice is cause I got too soft of springs for my application. But hey, it's a learning process regardless of what you do 😂😂😂. I drift mine too so it's even more of a process 😂

[@HaynesterMx1]

Just buy a Cadillac CTS sport like a 2007 and corvette swap it

[@DylanLustick]

I don’t think I’ve heard that recommendation before. But I’m definitely looking at a cts or maybe an ats as a nice lil daily driver

[@hayden6056]

Your strut tops are fucked it has nothing to do with the shorter springs. The rubber has collapsed in the bush the constant gap will wear the tyres. The factory rates are as followed Non-MRC SS Rates: 137 lbs/in (Front) 577 lbs/in (Rear) Hurst: 150 lbs/in (Front) 420-550 lbs/in (Rear) Eibach Rates: 160 lbs/in (Front) 121-691 lbs/in (Rear) 1LE Rates: 178 lbs/in (Front) 539 lbs/in (Rear) BMR Rates: 175lb lbs/in (Front) 640lb lbs/in (Rear) All the brands are only 10-25% stiffer when brand new compared to factory in the front some rears are even softer. The issue are the shocks are already worn , the springs have already lost rate compared to new. Youve installed stiffer springs at a different piston height of standard travel on worn shock absorbers. Most coilovers for these start at 250lb/inch for the front and 600lb/inch for the rears. If the struts are new and the car is new theres nothing wrong with just using lowering springs. If the car has 50k+ replace struts/shocks and springs. Putting anything under higher pressure when its already getting tired is of course always going to speed up the process. Unless something is an absolute performance orientated car i wont run coil overs in them due to the stiff ness. Some of my coil overed cars the panels creak if you push on them rather than the suspension travel. I know prices are different in the states than australia. But for brand new monroe gt shocks/struts with aftermarket springs that were developed in conjunction with monroe youre looking at $8-900. Taiwanese semi decent coil overs by hsd start at $1600. Theres still a place for lowered springs in this world as their is coilovers. Just dont go fitting them to tired and fucked struts/shocks lol.

[@DylanLustick]

God damn brother that’s an essay. My strut tops are fine, yes my shocks are worn, and if we can both agree that aftermarket springs accelerate the rate at which a factory strut wears then I’m not sure we disagree at all? Whole point of the video is “yes you can buy springs and yeah they’ll ride okay for a while but good coilovers will ride better for longer.” Now, that is operating under the assumption that you don’t mind the slightly stiffer ride that comes with the coilovers. But I can always appreciate a difference of opinion. Thanks for the comment 🙏🏾. Also, just the fact that there’s an Australian watching my video still blows my mind. Internet is crazy.

[@hayden6056]

@@DylanLustick replace your strut tops and you'll be surprised man. My last set lasted 8k KMs so 5k miles. Easiest way to tell is to bounce the car and watch the gap change. There's tight arses here that run 60-70mm lower springs on stock struts , biggest issues are the non captive spring at big lift. The threaded end of the strut where the spring retainer is doesn't change height unless going to a longer spring. What changes that strut top height is compression of the rubber. Our Holden's have run that exact same strut top bush from 1993 to 2017 when general motor shut here. It's a hugely common over here. When you get your coilovers pop the bush onto your struts and just lower it down and you'll see the gap closes. If can't be bothered doing that for science reasons just put the two next to each other on the bench and measure the height. There will probably be a 5-8 mm difference in the height. The springs would have fastened the wear as a higher rate of pressure bushing back up against the bush. Be aware when you go to a coilover because of the stiffer spring rate again you'll chew through them even faster. My hsv ( Holden special vehicles the top tier rare Holden's with all the go fast bits) gets 30k KMs out of polyurethane ones and 10k out of rubber due to the coilover set up in it. I used to replace multiples of these a day when I was a suspension specialist. Yes the newer springs will make it wear quicker we can agree on that , you're using piston travel you wouldn't usually have and any marking on the piston will wear the outer bit of the seal , as well as shocks get stiffer the further they go down so you're in a higher pressure area of the stroke more often plus the heavier spring it's fighting. You were correct on a lot of it , it's just not the shock styles fault. Apart from being 1 or 2 way adjustable coil overs aren't that much different in internal design. People just think that shocks because they come back up on they're own haven't gone bad til 100-150k miles. But a shock dyno will show you they're less than impressive after 50k. Putting more load on any worn component will always show you how worn it was. If I had a $1 for every low lift cam install in a car with original ls6 springs has gone bad I could probably afford other people to fix my cars for me 😂

[@hayden6056]

Also depends on what struts you're running with or without coil overs , at the end of the day the factory struts are coilovers 😉 I personally think a kyb agx adjustable strut or bilsteins are better with a standard type spring than say hsd, BC racing , yellow speed etc. Also think teins over rated.