Do NOT Buy This Motorcycle in 2022.. | DRZ400S vs. CRF300L

[@AdventureDaily]

I know a lot of DRZ owners will be triggered by this and that's okay, let it all out. I don't think it's a bad bike I just think there are better options. At the end of the day ride what gets you off!

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

Haha they definitely get trigger, other people's opinions really bother someone who is reluctant to change.

[@J2rcracing]

I love Suzuki, if the Drz was efi I'd buy one. But I have a '20 350 xcf. After owning this I'm buying an exc f 500 for a dual sport now. KTM just smokes it.

[@bradrhoades102840]

please put the crf300L to the test. are you afraid to get some mud on it? come on now. alexis got that thing dirtier than you already

[@mt1885]

@@J2rcracing KTM is where it is at as far as best quality and engineering.

[@2manytoyzz668]

Ha! You don’t keep a bike long enough to get used to it how are you supposed to review it? It doesn’t look modern so it must suck I guess.

[@DorkintheRoad]

I'm FAR happier with my DRZ than I was my 250L. It's just so fun to ride. Thanks for the shout out! 😁

[@DorkintheRoad]

I should probably add that if the KLX300 or CRF300L had been available when I bought my DRZ, it would have been a lot tougher decision for sure.

[@KenpachiZarakiX]

I gotchu mang! DRZ is a blast to ride. The klx300 would probably a second pick. Their SM version feels like a toy! Thanks for the content Dork!

[@DorkintheRoad]

@@KenpachiZarakiX and so good for dank nooners!

[@ADVlife287]

100% agree. It's an apples to oranges comparison. The 250L doesn't hold a candle to the drz

[@Aubatron]

My brother had a DRZ, I have a 250L. I liked the power they DRZ had, and it really felt like a tank. I found that the 250L was better for technical riding and felt lighter, even though it wasn't. They just feel like completely different bikes.

[@snupermoto723]

Drz rider for 6 years, have ridden a 250l and the 300, both lack power and torque, the suspension is waaaaaay too soft, even compared with the Drz. they do feel lighter, and the Drz does feel old, but hell I feel old too, so it's comfortable. After the zombie apocalypse I'll take the Drz everytime and be happy about it. But you are entitled to your opinion, but a refit likely means we'll lose the Drz all together, and less competition is never a good thing.

[@jonhill329]

100% agree, if honda would have a CRF400l, which should mostly solve the power and torque issue, and the suspension had some dampening adjustment at a similar weight, for an extra..$1000 or less....I would be all over that. And I think alot of people would be also.

[@chuckwoods9297]

Agreed!

[@Max-kw4px]

Couldn't agree more. I've ridden all of the aforementioned bikes and DRZ wins hands down for anything remotely 'offroad'.

[@paladain55]

I'm sure they can afford to add efi if the king of not refreshing its models can (kawasaki)

[@yurddd5438]

@@paladain55 go check out fortnine on KZbin and watch his video on efi vs carb motorcycles. Might give you a new perspective at least on the push for efi motorcycles

[@venomstrike4418]

I just bought my DRZ400S used a couple months ago. The previous owner did the jet carb + air box mod. I threw on a 47 tooth rear sprocket... and man does this baby rip through trails and hills. It scares me sometimes... I have to remind myself to slow down. I might go back to a 44 tooth rear... the throttle is so snappy. But it's a beast. Definitely makes me look like a good rider when in reality it's my first off road bike haha! Only thing I find myself grumbling about is the height. I'm sure if I rode a CRF300L I would be impressed by it. You can't ignore the newer technology. But all I know is the DRZ puts a huge smile on my face every time I ride it. It's a straight up beast. Can you say that about the 300L? Cheers to the good content!!

[@Dirtpoorhomesteader]

I’ll take a heavily upgraded drz vs 300l any day. Non modded dr vs crf I’ll take the new crf.

[@crypticreality8484]

​@@DirtpoorhomesteaderI have the heavily modded DR-Z

[@Nicks_Shop]

11:07 "That little bit of extra power".. Just to clear things up, the 250l (322lbs) and DRZ400 (319lbs) have a HP difference of almost 10HP. The DRZ400s weighs the same as his old 250L and has 33% more power.. that's a huge increase in power. The Fuel Injection and Gearing is great on the 250L/300L but man is it ever underpowered for the weight.

[@stevetdesigns]

Extremely under powered. I had the 250L and even after changing the gearing I couldn't get the front tire off the ground. Probably a lack of skill, but now I don't even have to try on my KTM 450 😁😁 After riding the 250L through some muddy trails I just knew it wasn't gonna cut it.

[@chrisredfield3240]

The 250L was 146kg that's the same as a 1997 XR600R shows heavy things have got!

[@ADVlife287]

Amen. I don't know how people recommend the 250/300L so much. If you're a brand new rider and don't care to really get in the dirt or try to hop a log, pop a wheelie, etc then the crf/L bikes are great. There's a reason these "old" bikes still cost as much as the "better" crf/L bikes

[@6226superhurricane]

that means it's almost a 20hp difference for the drz400e

[@pbear216]

@@stevetdesigns definitely the rider

[@T-Eazy90]

Just bought a DRZ 400s last weekend. I've always rode motocross bikes, last being a CRF450R. I started hitting trails on it and it didn't work out well. It didn't like the idling and it was way to snappy for the slicker hills. So far the DR-Z has been way easier too manage in the woods, as well as on gravel. Same day I bought it I took it out for a ride knowing nothing about it, and never having ride one. It was so user friendly it felt like I'd rode it many times. Hours of soft trails and gravel roads. I even hit a back highway and it didn't make me nervous even at 65 mph. No shakes or unstable feel. I did a couple little cosmetic upgrades too it this week and im hoping I'll get too take it out and put it through the paces on more wooded terrain, so far seems like a decent bike and I bought it for a quarter what my crf cost

[@AdventureDaily]

I’m glad it worked out for you! They are great bikes I just really prefer the modern amenities, enjoy the ride!

[@motoendurocalaveras429]

Perhaps you can make a video about your experiences in a motocross bike trying it outside a track and (i believe you used it for Enduro). I was very surprised to learn From you that it Is not so good to enduro in a motocross bike. I want ti know why, given that they are really powerful

[@jayzee1968]

Amen

[@crypticreality8484]

Yea. I know that 6 gears is nice but, I went 82 today on my DR-Z and there was room to spare. So, people complain as if the CRF's 6th gear allows it to go faster. That's not how gearing works.

[@mototoad1242]

Dr650

[@grenick85]

I'm on the fence between buying a new crf300l vs a slightly used drz400. I'm a huge Honda fan but the soft suspension and welded sub frame are big red flags for me. Weight difference to power difference is making me lean towards the drz as well.

[@ADVlife287]

Long post coming.. The crf250/300L series bikes are great. Simple, stupid long intervals on maintenance, injected. However there is a reason you'll see more crf/L bikes for sale than any DRZs. The crf/L series bikes are not made in Japan, and without being a "snob", you can tell. My dad bought a new 250L 2 years ago, was a great "grandpa" bike. We geared it wayyy down so you could trail ride it. You needed 6 speeds after gearing where it was more useable on dirt/trail riding. There's nothing really "wrong", but it's about as bland as it comes. Again, you'll see the 250/300 L for sale with not many miles, with exhaust/tuner/intake etc trying to get more power. People realize it's a great bike to bang around in town or trails but it will leave you wanting more. The suspension is terrible. I don't care how great your injected bike runs when the suspension is garbage. Certainly you can go all out improving the 250/300L bike suspension for a LOT of money, but then you're still on a 300+ pound bike with sub 300cc's of street bike honda engine. It's not going to feel lively or exciting. Don't get me wrong, we had my dad's 250L set up with a nice rear rack and seat concepts seat so it wasn't bad on our day rides. The real problem is when you rode ANY other bike besides a tw200 in the group and got back on the 250/300L bike, you realized that you should have gone a different route. Last year I saw a drz400 pop up on craigslist, 2002/3, with barely 1000 miles. It looks brand new. Owned by an older rider and garaged. I told my dad to buy it and sell his crf250l. We both rode the 250L and drz400 after he purchased the suzuki (and before he sold the crf250l) and there's a reason people STILL BUY THESE BIKES! We have subsequently ridden trails and rides that we did before, but now with the drz400 (I ride a dr650). The 400, 300 and 250 all are within 10 pounds of each other. The Honda bikes feel like the weight is lower, but it feels like a lower bike. The DRZ feels like a "dirt bike". It's playful, pops wheelies, actually responds when you accelerate.. Sure it's old tech, but it'll annihilate the crf250/300L bikes. Please read about reliability of the drz400's engine. I've owned a suzuki ltz400 (same engine as drz400), hot, cold (like below 0 F) it just starts. I'm over 200 pounds and the stock suzuki suspension is more than adequate. It's far superior to my DR650's suspension as well. I'm convinced that Adventure Daily wants to bash DRZ's in attempt to lower the used market price and increase the value of his crf/L bike (haha jk Adventure Daily). Everyone has their own preference, some people love Ford focus's more than a Ford Mustang.. that's ok. For most people though (if you can test ride them both) you'll understand why the DRZ's still cost $4k used and people are selling low mileage CRF/L bikes. And as much as people try to bash the "old" tech of the DR\Z/KLR/XR style bikes, again, there's a reason you'll see those bikes for sale at "higher" prices. You're not wrong on power/weight ratio concern - the DRZ isn't the fastest out there by a LONG shot, but it's 2x feeling over at least the 250L.

[@fynn8252]

@@ADVlife287 Some high quality real-world input!

[@chrisdavis3952]

Suzuki DR 650

[@abeecee]

@@ADVlife287 thanks for sharing dude

[@CoffeeAndBusiness]

I have looped my DRZ twice and dropped it off a small cliff. Each time, I fired the bike right up and rode off.

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

Dude I did a comparison of these two bikes myself. Its cool to see another persons perspective, I watch a ton of your videos. I agree a ton of what your saying about the DRZ, even tho the 300L weighs only like 10lbs lighter it feels 40-50lbs lighter. Also my DRZ vs Honda 300L comparison/review got a ton of hate. People who have never even rode the 300L will talk so much crap just people they see numbers on paper.

[@ryanlorance6168]

Sounds about right lol that’s all people f’n do is talk an act like they know f’n everything an don’t know f**k all smh

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

@@ryanlorance6168 lol Im fine with anyone and their opinions, they are entitled to that. But my problem is when you have never even rode the bike you are talking trash on. I have rode both, and rode both alot. I agree 100% with the video about the crf300L being a better bike overall.

[@salazam]

@@MotorcyclesOffroad *I have ridden both

[@Mark-du4qn]

Suzuki got the V-Strom pretty damn close to perfect... You also know the Vearsys is a Kaw product, yeah? Conventional wisdom is that the DRZ isn't updated because it can't meet emissions standards now and any update would cancel out its being 'grandfathered' in. Fun vids on your channel though. I enjoy it.

[@jaynekk1]

Here in Aus we get the DRZ E Model with FCR pumper carb from factory, higher compression, different tank and sub frame, Has 40hp and weighs 138kg

[@justhesolution]

What do you think of the Yamaha xt250?

[@CosmicSeeker69]

video starts at 04:10

[@deltabravo1257]

I still remember when the DRZ S model came out… the price was $5249. I watched the price gradually go up over the first few years, but I sure didn’t realize they were $6899 now. I’ve had my 2002 DRZ since 2006. It got 16k miles this past summer. It runs well, but I’ve had ethanol fuel wreck the carb three times, requiring a complete rebuild. I stopped running ethanol contaminated fuel in it for the most part, but the carb still crapped out. Now I stay away from ethanol fuel 100%.

[@glencuda]

Love my DRZ400S it will never see ethanol fuel if i possibly can help it. I've haven't had any issues at all. Corn goes next to the potatoes and barbecue😜

[@chrisredfield3240]

Bike prices really are showing the true inflation. I bought a F800gs in 2014 for £8,800 a 650 versy's is probably that soon. T7 is over £10k here. The f850gs starting prices is over £10k

[@corax_of_istria]

Inflation.

[@tillsy23]

Being in Australia we only get the drz400e they are everywhere here and are super reliable to the point moto touring companies only run them in their outback tours, check out Cape York drz400e tours on here you might be surprised I do prefer the crf300l but I'm not sure if you could get one running in 3 minutes after submarining one like a drz400e can

[@mecalpsha4473]

DRZ400E is like the best wish they sold it in the states.

[@thermus]

@@mecalpsha4473 you can still get one, they were sold until 2007 in the US

[@chuckwoods9297]

I have a friend that has one here in Florida, and its set up to be street legal...........I took it for a run on the street and it power wheelie in 2nd,3rd,and 4th.........Solid Bikes, maybe outdated but it has the Power and a ton of available aftermarket parts for it.............I bought the KLX250 over the DRZ400 because of price and I thought the klx would have enough power,but it dont, it is super reliable though, so that makes up for the lack of power...........But if I knew what I know now, I would have got the DRZ400, But I have not checked out the 300's yet, sounds it looks like they have the power you will need?

[@mecalpsha4473]

@@chuckwoods9297 If you are on more pavement get the DRZ400SM.

[@chuckwoods9297]

@@mecalpsha4473 I wish I would have got the DRZ400SM!...........I ended up getting the KLX250, which was a mistake, but the KLX250 is reliable and takes a lot of abuse, just does not have enough power, so my next one will be a DRZ400! Live n Learn!

[@tedmagnum6968]

I had a DRZ400S years ago. Rode it the length of Africa. Never let me down. This is where the DRZ is god. It's solid, strong and easy to work on yourself. It's like a KLR650 for the dirt. You know with some basic knowledge you can always fix it yourself. Lack of 6th gear did suck though. I sold that and bought a 250L. IT SUCKED. REALLY underpowered, soggy suspension. And it's still WAY HEAVY. I ditched the asthmatic 250L and bought another DRZ400S. But did some mods. Because I agree. The DRZ400 out of the crate is not good. You HAVE to mod a DRZ to turn it into an excellent bike. If you invest some cash you can TRANSFORM it. I put an FCR39 carb and a 434 athena big bore. IT TRANSFORMS the bike. But even the 3x3 mod and a dynojet kit makes it better. I did a weekend riding on my DRZ400 with a group on CRF300L. They performed okay but their suspension in no way as good as even 20 year old DRZ shocks. My DRZ with the pumper carb powered through obstacles and hills where the CRFS struggled. And when riding home on the road my DRZ absolutely tore them up. A modded DRZ400 is still a much better bike than the 250/300L. And for the record. I rode my stock 400S at 14,000 feet in the Ethiopian Mountains. It didn't need re-jetting. The modern bikes FI will always win with economy though.

[@machupikachu1085]

what kind of fuel economy can one expect from the 39 carb?

[@SailingCorina]

I'll be going EFI after doing a 2 month trip from Tucson Arizona up to Flagstaff down to Page and back up to Bryce Canyon and then back to Tucson. I had to rebuild my carburetor 6 times. Stupid.

[@Propelled]

Emulsion tubes. Freakin’ emulsion tubes.

[@robertclary1718]

I rode a DRZ for 8 years and they were good bikes for the time. The 300 however just has far better ergonomics. The suspension will need some work depending on what you want to do with the bike. 10 years ago I felt the need to modify the DRZ suspension too. 24 years ago I had to modify YZ suspensions! Now at 66 I’m not yet convinced I’ll need to change the 300 but probably will.

[@markcollins5026]

Man, nice I'm 67 and I had a 250l and a Versys X300, recently got a new 2022 KLR650, it's a hoot to ride !

[@waynedavis6221]

I am 70 and I am buying one because of the soft suspension haha

[@robertclary1718]

@WAYNE DAVIS it won't help your hemorrhoids Wayne.

[@salazam]

lol the 300L is for old fogies. That settles it, I want the DRZ.

[@overkilldyl6841]

A lot of craft beers are unfiltered. Before opening them flip the beer upside down to get the settlements swished around. They hold a lot of the flavor

[@AdventureDaily]

I'm glad you mentioned that, don't you think that they would be plenty mixed after the ride to the spot?

[@salazam]

Craft beers are for queers. Real men drink Coors.

[@mrtaser556]

I bought my DRZ brand new 15 years ago. I got a full FMF pipe and jetted it along with opening up the air box. The torque is great I never attempted to climb a hill that I could not conquer. The only issue was the weight but my friend's brand new 250 Yamaha that weights about the same only with less power so I guess I can't complain. I have ridden at 6 to 7000 feet and hadn't noticed any significant power lost. If I want to get a better bike I would need to get a Husqvarna/KTM and spend $13000 OTD. Until I am willing to pull the trigger I will stay with the DRZ. Oh yeah, it's very reliable too.

[@Motolympics]

I’m sorry but every time you say “bikes and beer” I hear “bikes and beards”

[@americandude3825]

Haha

[@erikhaldeman5802]

That is exactly what I thought!

[@nana-cu5rh]

I have an 06 DRZ400-E. E model is off road version. Perfomance cams, timing, header pipe, 3x3 mod, 262 lbs with 40+ horse powe and all stock with 300 miles. It's my preferred off road machine. 6th gear is a road thing, not often used off road unless it's bonzai desert stuff. I passed on the 300L due to weight and too low power to weight ratio. Friend has one and I had it for a week. Nice bike, but too laid back and sorta boring. Still looking for a dual purpose with some oomph. Cool vid, great background, well done. If your going for 100k subs, get more Alexis in and you'll be there before the end of the year. Ciao.

[@BrianB1963]

A DRZ 400 that's 262 lb! Are you sure? If it is what a sweet thing!

[@nana-cu5rh]

@@BrianB1963 All stock. Google it, you'll see. It's an E. not an S or SM.

[@BrianB1963]

@@nana-cu5rh very nice. Now you got me thinking about getting one of those! Thanks for the info

[@EvolATV]

450L is 10K! ~7 for a DRZ is much more appealing. Like you said I need the extra grunt being a bigger guy. DRZ fits my needs well. Bullit proof and cheap is a good combo.

[@jackh3522]

Haved owned dr400 Dr 650 3 klr650 xr650r all good bikes but my 22 klx300 is under 290 lb has great power after mods suspension stk is fine and you can't beat fuel inj when riding at high alt

[@northeastadventures9537]

The problem is the drz400 is a fraction of the price so it is still a lot of bike for the price and they are bomb proof

[@AdventureDaily]

Fraction of the price? If you are buying new the DRZ is significantly more expensive. That was kind of my point.

[@northeastadventures9537]

@@AdventureDaily I would never buy new tbh bud I like a bike with couple thousand miles on where all the pre problems have been found and resolved tbh I would love to buy new but here in the uk with wages and tax unless you get finance your talking probably 10/12 thousand new and between paying for a house and my children and my misses that’s just not an option at the moment unfortunately

[@joecamel6835]

@@northeastadventures9537 wait until the NWO starts the food shortages..oh wait they already have .

[@northeastadventures9537]

@@joecamel6835 indeed they have

[@quikboarder93]

Suzuki tried to spice things up with the Van Van, but I just don’t think it was marketed well enough. The dealers I went to who had it talked it down as a bad road bike, but that was never its intention. Could have been a cool alternative to the TW200 had they thrown a pro on it to show people what it can do like Yamaha’s been doing with the Teneré. The WR250R is still king of the small dual sport world IMO. Low maintenance, better suspension than the KLX and CRF, and lots of aftermarket support. Such a shame that they discontinued it 😔

[@ComfyDadShoes]

I agree on carbs, hate them compared to EFI. However, I went with the DR650 despite being inches away from getting the klx300. I’m 6’4 235… It just didn’t have the guts to pull me through the sand on trails and around traffic as my daily commuter. I’m hanging on to the DR until a slightly larger, affordable, EFI thumper comes along. An EFI DRZ would be the way!

[@matthewperry8057]

I bought a CRF300L and sold it 1 week later. As soon as I let off the clutch, I could tell I'd made a mistake. The supersoft powerband can't throttle out of sketchy situations. It boring. No soul. I bought a DRZ400S, and was WAY happier. The 300 can keep its worthless 6th gear.

[@anythinggoespnw]

I bought a 10 year old DRZ400 with a big tank and lowered because I couldn't find a CRF300... DRZ400 it totally rocks on back roads and jeep trails, geared it 15/42, its ⅔ weight of an "adventure" bike with great suspension. I have and have owned Honda CRF230, CRF250, KLR650, 300 versys, DR650, XR600, XR650... All great bikes, don't need to be so particular, make your bike fit you with tires bars pegs suspension etc and have fun.

[@tomthomsen11]

Some of the rental DRZ's at the local Supermoto track have 100k miles on them. Those are mostly HARD miles too. Not too sure about the CRF300L longevity. It's NOT made at Honda's factory in Japan from what I've heard.

[@chrisredfield3240]

Should be fine it's not even making 30hp. Not hardly any bikes are made in Japan anymore.

[@AKAOmnivore]

DRz400s 39 hp, 28 tq, top speed 90 seat 36.5" weight 316lbs $7k carb Dyno at wheel 35hp, 27tq Honda CRF300 27hp, 20 tq, top speed 80, 36.5 wt 309lbs (333lbs for touring) $5300 (T $6k) fi Dyno at wheel 22.7 hp, 16.7tq There is no power on this bike. I don't own either but how is the Honda better, statistically they weight the same but HP/TQ isn't close. I suppose if you weigh 150lbs you may not notice the difference?

[@teethofthelamb]

After looking through the comments it looks like we have a lot of DRZ400 lovers, who have said just about everything already. I have a DRZ400 and it’s a nice bike, I wanted a trail bike but decided the dual-sport is much more practical to get from point A to point B no need to trailer it. My DRZ was like new 2,000 miles and I paid $2,800 for it all of the mods had been done carb jets and 3x3, MFM exhaust, LED headlight, mini LED signals etc. I purchased a Honda 400 years ago and had the street kit installed, I remember it was about the same hight as my DRZ which is the only thing I don’t like about the bike, but it’s a very capable bike especially in the hands of an experienced off road rider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, one size does not fit all when it comes to motorcycles, thats why there are so many makes and models to choose from, pick the one that best fits your needs.

[@herbiesnerd]

I’m part of a 3 guy group of old guys riding dual sports with great trail systems in all 4 directions from where we live. We each have different bikes. Two of us are spoiled with a Husky FE501S and a KTM 500EXC. Our third buddy rides a 400DRZ. I think it looks badass, and it sounds great. It has a rack I’m envious of and it goes anywhere our bikes go. When I’ve ridden the DRZ though, the weight is obvious. It’s like riding a Cadillac in the dirt or a small tank. It gets there but it’s not nimble and being an old guy over 60, maximum enjoyability is my bottom line criteria, not cost. The DRZ is not an enjoyable ride compared to my Husky. I’m watching this video because I’m looking at the CRF300L to buy for my son so he can ride with us. I’m sold on fuel injection. I can rebuild a carb like there’s no tomorrow, but I’d rather not. I’ve done all the tuning, and jetting, and mixing etc etc over the years on all the carbureted bikes I’ve ever owned, and I’ve never touched my Husky’s fuel injection. The ECU does all the work. Granted, I paid a lot of money for a 500 that weighs just over 250#, but I’ll finish my time on bikes with maximum fun and comfort. My kid doesn’t need a $12,000 dual sport so the Honda seems like the way to go for $6,000 so he can keep up with the old guys, learn and have fun. Every ride with the DRZ nearby though, still makes me smile when I hear it.

[@doctorstrangelove8587]

Hi there. Let me know about your experience when you buy crf l. I am looking at used drz or new crf300 l. I m realy not sure. Looking to drive trails and i m 6.03 and roughly 210lb. Sold my crf250 x cause it was like i ride 2x4. Looking something more comfortable. Tried 250l last year but it s 13y old boy toy. Way too much underpowered.

[@GLHS592]

I was in the market for a used dual sport. I researched them all. The 650 cc bikes are all heavier than I want to deal with. The non-Japanese bikes are too expensive. So, I narrowed it down to the DRZ400S, CRF300L, KLX300, and WR250R. From my research, you can't go wrong with any of the 4, but the DRZ400S seemed to be the best bang for the buck. The WR250R is priced insane on the used market around here and the KLX300 and CRF300L aren't too far behind. I'm not going to be riding 60 + mph, so the 5 speed doesn't bother me. The carburetor doesn't bother me either. Fuel injection would be nice. The DRZ400S also seemed more durable than the others. The suspension is better too. Honestly, if they all cost the same, I'd still choose the DRZ400S and the CRF300L would be my last choice. The KLX300 seems superior to the CRF300L to me. It has a little more power and better suspension. If cost wasn't a factor, I'd get a Beta.

[@williamserrahn9702]

Bought an 04 DRZ400S with 1,600 miles in 07. Now has 12,000 and a little beat up from dropping it, but runs like new. Also have a Yamaha WR250R now with 5,000 miles. Primarily ride forest roads here in the Western Washington Cascades with some easier single track now that I'm in my 70's. I have dual sports as I live in a rural town and want to ride from my house without trailering. Had to gear down both bikes with larger rear sprockets and new chains. That was great for the 6 speed WR but the 5 speed DRZ buzzes pretty good on the road at 60MPH. Yeh, the DRZ is heavier and more crude engineeringwise, but it is reliable and extremely durable and has great lugging torque compared to the small displacement bikes. I love both bikes and now ride the WR more as it is a bit lighter and nimbler and has plenty of power. I never had carb problems with the DRZ, as I ride all year but friends of mine have. Funny thing is that the DRZ has never left me in the outback, but the WR has when the fuel pump just quit working 20 miles from the road. Yes FI is great, but the WR has a $20 Chinese Fuel pump although Yamaha charges $400 for it.

[@mecalpsha4473]

I woke up on morning and bought a New DRZ400S - as I wanted more power and it runs great.

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

not fussy about the DRZ 400 but the DR650 puts a huge smile on my face every time I take it out, also like the KTM 390 Adventure If you like all the bells and whistles that is the way to go, but dose lack ground clearance, so off road is slow. DR 650 great off road but I have it set up as a 50/50 with a 20 liter tank and Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires which I also have on the KTM. Trying to get a CRF 300 L but looks like I will have to wait till next year, another 6 months to get one hear in Canada. Will be putting a skid plate, and hand guards on and going with more off road tires Dunlop D606 in the rear and Pirelli MT.21 front. The only time it will see road is on the way to a trail or dirt roads. Do you think I should go with a larger rear sprocket as many have done on the CRF 250 or dose the CRF 300 L need it will be doing slow off road and single track so I think the suspension should be Ok at least to start out with Sprockets I was thinking about is a 42 or 44 on the rear or 42 rear and 13 front. The only duel sports I have ridden are the DR 600 many years ago and a couple of DR650 But at 72 want something lighter as most of the time I ride alone. ( so no help to get un stuck or pick it up when in a bad spot.) But do need a bike I can ride to the trails, as most of the time I will be ending up far from where I started. Or have to go on the road to get to the next trail. 3 in the stable will be a dream come true, all single cylinders as well.

[@SolomonsMartialArts]

Which is better the 2021dr650or the crf300?

[@mecalpsha4473]

@@SolomonsMartialArts DR650 - it can run 75 easily and the torque is unreal!

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

@@SolomonsMartialArts 2 different bikes bough have there good points, for off road the DR650 by far, as larger front wheel and more suspension and ground clearance. For putting bags on and highway I like the KTM 390 Adventure. The KTM also has a lot more bells and whistles which come in handy when touring. The KTM also gets better gas millage. For hitting a lot of dirt and gravel roads that are in rough shape I take the DR650 love the torque it has. Also find it a bit better in deep sand. I did put a 20 liter gas tank on to give it some range. Will also be adding a CRF 300 L to the stable for hard off road riding, as it is lighter and will be putting more off road tires on it, the DR650 will do the off road most likely better but have 50/50 tires on it and at 72 want the lighter bike, for the single track and places where I might drop it. 3 different bikes for 3 different types of rides. If only could have one it would be the DR650 better all round, but do need the 20 liter gas tank if you plan to do any distance where gas stations are far and few.

[@williamserrahn9702]

Yep, you need the bigger bikes for long distance riding but they are a bigger compromise if you are going to do some single track, especially the knarley stuff. The DR650 is a generation back from the DRZ400 and much heavier and clumsier. I ride from my house in Washington's Western Cascades and ride the forest roads within 60 miles of home as well as some of the easier single track trails as I'm now in my 70's. I have the DRZ400S and WR250R which are better suited for the short distance day excursions. I see plenty of ADV bikes come through town as we are on a major adventure route. That's were I would be if I were doing the long haul.

[@mecalpsha4473]

@@williamserrahn9702 The DR650 is way better on the road like longer distance. It can run 70+ all day long. I think the shortages of bikes is going to get worse.

[@drueatcer]

I bought a Yamaha XT 350 back in 1989 and still have it. Do you believe this Honda 300 would have a little more power than the 350?

[@andrewneven6816]

My wife has a CRF300L and I have a DRZ400. The CRF300 is nice bike for beginners and women. It has a low seat height, soft power and soft suspension which works well for smaller, lighter riders. The suspension on the Honda is very basic with limited adjustability. This is not a problem for my wife because she has no desire to go fast. The Honda is about 8 pounds lighter than the DRZ and feels like a smaller bike. It's great for putting around on, but is lacking when the trail gets rough and the speeds pick up. It has no where near the power and suspension of the DRZ400. On the street both bikes are just OK. On smooth gravel roads both are fun. On higher speed, tougher off road areas in the California desert, the extra power and superior suspension on the DRZ results in it leaving the Honda behind. When you turn the throttle on the Suzuki it accelerates, while the Honda simply gathers momentum. My wife actually prefers the softer power of her CRF300 and says it is easier for her to ride. The Honda is a nice entry level bike and costs about $1,700 less than the DRZ but it would take more than $1,700 to get it to perform to the level of the DRZ. I won't be trading in my DRZ400 for a CRF300. If anything, I would move to a KTM 350 EXC-F.

[@knifecharlatan8912]

I'm aDR650 man. Found a great deal on a 2020 used, so I'd assume I'll be riding it for a good many years to come.

[@mt1885]

DR650 is a thousand times better and it can easily run 75 and so many mods. They have plated cylinder and run for 75,000 miles easily. The Honda has a 'cast iron' cylinder - the Kawasaki has a Plated cylinder and way better suspension than this 'Honda'.

[@knifecharlatan8912]

@@mt1885 well I LOVE it and have no aspirations to be rid of it!

[@mt1885]

@@knifecharlatan8912 The Honda is like riding a XL250 from 1980.

[@knifecharlatan8912]

@@mt1885 well I don't know if I could agree to that, all I'm saying is that I thoroughly enjoy the dr650

[@stevehoward3981]

The dr650 is awesome right out of the box.

[@Itsjake908]

How much lighter is the Honda? Just 13lbs apparently…that’s not much at all

[@stevenramos6388]

Dude your a certified legend for referencing cycle Cruza that was actually lit that would be my ABSOLUTE DREAM to get a collab

[@rdizzo1313]

They should both get TW200’s and both rock the mullets in a late 80’s “Mulletcollab”....👌🏽 👌🏽

[@stevenramos6388]

A tw200 is so capable but it just so ugly if I found a deal I would snagg one

[@stevenramos6388]

There a channale called BVC OFF-ROAD that does fat tire conversions for 450’s And 250 two strokes you should check it out

[@chuckbowen4334]

Do you mean cycle looza. I dropped him from my watch list. He is weak on facts and high on bull$hit.

[@salazam]

@@stevenramos6388 I had one, it's alright. I had more fun on my XT225.

[@blancolirio]

Great format! (Why didn't I think of that!)

[@raymondo162]

too pissed to think of it ?? ;-) i reckon mixing motorcycles with booze is some PURE qualiteeeeeeee stupidery

[@CoachSteve4u]

I struggled to figure out which of these two bikes to buy. What it came down to was that the 300L had a lot less power, and I'd have to upgrade the suspension right away. You can't take the CRF up an incline on the freeway and that's just plain dangerous. The DRZ has no problem. Plus, I didn't have to upgrade the suspension. And, I've taken it up from 1,000 feet elevation to 7,500 feet and couldn't tell any difference really - nothing worth worrying about. I know that the anemic CRF would have bothered me a lot. The DRZ has a lot of torque and will blast past traffic if you need to. Try that on the CRF...

[@arronthompson1712]

I bought a 2006 DRZ 400 this spring. I like it, but its heavy. Beer: Deschutes Black Butte Porter, Lagunitas IPA, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, New Belgium Fat Tire, Dog Fish Head 120 minute, Stone Brewing, Rogue, No-Li....... good lord.. soo much good beer.

[@anthonys9754]

I’ve never ridden the newer dual sports but I’ve ridden the drz back to back with my wr250r and it just felt like it carries too much weight up high

[@spiffcats]

I have a dirtbike and a dual sport. The dual sport is a crf300l and I absolutely love it. For the gnarly stuff I have a 1986 suzuki sp250 and I absolutely love that as well. It is an incredible bike, super reliable, super capable, lots of power etc. Its sad to see suzuki isnt keeping up with the rest anymore. The competition between suzuki and honda made for some great quality products back in the day

[@waltermartin8570]

went to my kawasaki dealer and they told me they cant get a klx300 until november 2022 so i decided to go with a drz 400 just because the new dual sports are impossible to get

[@Chase_01]

I’m literally buying the Honda because of fuel injection I’m willing to compromise engine displacement for more reliable fuel delivery

[@truesightgrabber]

Well, if you are so sure about "reliable" CRF300L tell me how often you change oil in it ?

[@guyalton706]

I'm confused with less than 2% of viewers liking this video? Maybe most were DRZ riders? Great place to ride, content and host, thanks man!

[@brettkovak6344]

I’ve seen a lot of your videos I like them I was all set to buy a CRF 450 L until I learned about the flameout problem. Of course you have the RL now. I’m in my late 50s and I just bought a 2020 DRZ with 3300 miles on it. It feels perfectly light and flickable to me. A friend of mine that used to mountain bike with me has a CRF 300 and I’m interested to compare them. Love your videos! As for beer, here in Vermont I have two for you to try if you can find them. Long trail ale, blackberry wheat, and otter Creek magic number nine, which is apricot flavored! Very slight flavors I think you’ll like them. Cheers keep riding and keep chugging.

[@crusader1p548]

I loved the suspension and the torque of the Drz hitting the trails in Arizona. But everything you said is 100% true.

[@-MANWITHN0NAME-]

Any advice where to buy a skid plate

[@AdventureDaily]

AXP makes the best! www.axp-racing.com/en/product/2021-2022-honda-crf300l-skid-plate-black-ax1607

[@max1885]

Bought a DRZ 400 in 2007. Still going strong and I love it.

[@daveross1968]

Hey bud, although I like most bikes, I went with the DRZ400s over other bikes such as Honda or kawasaki. 1.) Power was so much better and smoother. Especially over the honda. 2.) If you get faster on the trails, you're gonna quickly realize the DRZ has much much better suspension than either honda or kawasaki. I know the DRZ is old. But when you drive it, it does give the most fun. I still think it is a great bike over the two mentioned. And the long service intervals are great ! To be honest, I'd like to own all 3. However, that is not the case, so the drz is a quicker more power machine. I really do love it !!

[@sebreenWA]

I have the 2000 DRZ S. It’s got the upgrades of handle bars, bashplates, and pegs. I’ve riden the 2021 CRF 300L. Great new bike. Love all the enhancements you discuss. The EFI. The 6 speed, the tech package of gas, gear, tach, etc. I think you offer the balance of pros and cons. Did a drag race and found they were similar to 65. DRZ keeps going though. At 200lbs the suspension of the DRZ is important. The CRF wins the beauty contest, no doubt. The DRZ wins the he-man contest (no replacement for displacement). So I am sticking with the DRZ for now as the upgrade of tech isn’t enough to offset the cost of better suspension. My next bike is the Tenere 700.

[@jmart4005]

I had both for a while, sold the CRF. The DRZ power and suspension make it way more fun. I never understood the DRZ carb being an issue, it starts right up every time. I agree with the 5-speed comment though.

[@Partnerthedog]

Sold my 2017 crf250L today and got a 2018 DRZ400SM and I love it.

[@Partnerthedog]

Sold the 250L for 5,500$ and the drz was 4,500$

[@gsxrg46]

I had a Crf 250l and while a nice bike, I was shocked at how much better the Drz400 was. Better in every way. Call me old school,but I never bonded with the Honda but loved the DRZ immediately.

[@WOODZMAN]

Great job on the video ! Ride On

[@garageliving3658]

Drz400E is still top heavy. Heard Suzuki legally can't change anything without obeying the new emissions. I seen it on the internet therefore it's true.

[@lukefish7562]

😆saw that too

[@ComfyDadShoes]

What’s your weight, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m 6’4 230, and I’d rather a klx300 over and XR/DR 650’s for fuel injected alone. I’d rather put a stiffer spring than clean carbs several times a year

[@AdventureDaily]

200lbs with gear.

[@chillipete123]

I bought a drz400sm, exact same as the one you used to own. Absolutely love the bike, plenty of power and reliable as a mfer.

[@mt1885]

Got a DRZ400S and Dr650 - been riding the 650 more lately and to me would buy a new 650 over 300L as being able to hit the highway and get up to speed fast.

[@sivespeed5890]

I had a drz was the worst bike I've ever owned, a pig to start and an absolute nightmare to pick up when dropped, would never buy suzuki again as long as I live Tanner is spot on

[@mt1885]

@@sivespeed5890 That is why there is options, I would never buy a 'Cast Iron' cylinder bike again like a lawnmower from the 70's.

[@sivespeed5890]

@@mt1885 well good luck riding your tractor 🚜

[@chillipete123]

@@sivespeed5890 bruh the drz ain't even heavy. unless your 5ft2 100lb it might be. Sounds like you bought a shit second hand one that was jetted too lean to me. Once you dial in the carb, it's better than efi

[@TimRHillard]

I end up riding some on the freeways in ye Olde SoCal. Are these bikes up to crudimg at 79mph?

[@mattsloop2736]

I heard the klx300 is a better option with the better suspension and adjustable settings it has. For 300$ more. Have you rode one?

[@sethgriggs6566]

Love the DRZ400s, it’s an old tank but a tank none the less. And at 6’3” and 220 lbs, it’s the only suitable, off road capable, duel sport on the market. Glad they’re still making them.

[@CameronVarnish]

Xr650?

[@SB-fe4gt]

I own a DRZ that started life as a SM...I converted one to a Dual Sport with a set of Warp 9 18/21 wheels. The DRZ is MUCH more capable than the CRF300L and the KLX300. Either go with something that is lighter than 300 lbs full of gas or go with a DRZ. My DRZ will do 102 mph on flat ground and it will go anywhere I want to go off road. Geared it with 16/38 sprockets and it works great on and off road at speeds above 10 mph. The 5 speed just means you can shift less since the DRZ has plenty of torque to pull the gaps between the gears. Anybody that whines about the 5 speed probably hasn't ever owned a DRZ. The carb has goods and bads...I agree EFI would be nice. I would highly recommend skipping the CRF300L, the CRF300L Rally, and the KLX300...I owned all three and they are underpowered, don't have a decent suspension, and not very capable.

[@Merc399]

2022 drz400sm owner here. i test rode a crf300 cuz everyone was hyping it up and it just felt a little anemic fr :/

[@JohnnyBoy919]

I'd love to see you do a crf300l vs wr250r comparison.

[@GallicGarlic]

The WR 250 R.. where I live, a good condition 2nd hand one would be gone in 1 to 2hr.. extremely popular and difficult to get one..

[@JohnnyBoy919]

@@GallicGarlic where abouts are you? I have one and am considering selling!

[@GallicGarlic]

@@JohnnyBoy919 sorry mate, Europe...

[@stevehoward3981]

The wr250 and crf250l were equal in drag races. The wr has a better suspension after being sorted and is a better choice for hard riders. The wr is much taller.

[@srose40]

Can you get Great Lakes Brewing Christmas Ale in Columbus?...its all the rage every year here in Northeast Ohio

[@darthorpheus]

Try the Elliot Ness too!

[@PatchedBandit]

How in da hell do you get the helmet audio sounding so CLEAN! No clipping or nothing. Like you are in a studio.

[@Gamesplaytoday]

As someone who is looking into getting a sumo atm not having had one before the duke 390 comes across as a comparison alot, have you ridden one? how do they compare

[@tacticalidiot175]

My 2004 DR-Z 110 was great. I think Suzuki makes some good stuff.

[@Jayswensonjr]

I own a 300L and like how well balanced it is and the lower gearing then the 250l is great for off-roading. To make the perfect bike, Honda needs to offer fully adjustable suspension like the KLX300. I wish I would've gone with the Kawi because I ride off-road a lot and will need to invest in some better suspension. Honda really dropped the ball by not raising the MSRP a few hundred dollars and investing in some good suspension. Who cares about the ABS... I have a little buyer's remorse just because of the suspension.

[@tweetdezweet]

I think Honda put the ABS on the 300L because of EU laws, all new motorcycles are required to have ABS, if I am not mistaken, all crf300s are produced in the same factory in Thailand so it would be easier for them to equip all of them with ABS. Simplifies the production process as well as stock management since all bikes can be sold worldwide. And about the DRZ400.. in Europe we can't even get them new and the secondhand ones are so rare, the prices are insane. That said, the crf300 is actually the only dual sport available due to emission standards and the mandatory ABS... So happy that Honda saw enough potential in the European market because the other brands simply stopped selling their dual sports...

[@webworldwide]

I bought it knowing I would dump the suspension, get the ohlins rear shock and it becomes a klx killer.

[@beardedbarnstormer9577]

You can literally put 700 into the suspension and it’s a rockstar

[@sayuas4293]

@@beardedbarnstormer9577 700 what

[@beardedbarnstormer9577]

@@sayuas4293 dollars. Ohlin rear with remote reservoir solves a lot of the issues.

[@mt1885]

Got DRZ400S/DR650 as well as motocross bikes. The DR650 is actually more fun being a big bore and so many mods and does not feel heavy as it has so much torque. Plus, it will leave a 300L in the weeds. Right now nothing is available used. It would be nice if YAMAHA would build a new dual sport - but it appears they will not. Emissions ruined it all.

[@billcotton1551]

The DRZ and the DR650 are still huge in Australia. I think their Military uses the DRZ.

[@chrro466]

That’s a fact. Drz400e in camo and used by the SAS. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@robfate8781]

Looking at getting a new 2023 300l. Seems like the best value and reliability.

[@JD-ek8bt]

Everything is a trade off , Just like I own 3 different alum boats , I own 3 different Dualsports and a KX250f as well as the 4x4 quads and the kids TTR125’s ….. It is what it is ….. Good stuff, Just finally dropped the Racetech spring in the left tube on the 250L , hyperPro on the rear , … Huge difference… !

[@Max-kw4px]

The CRF300L is an under-sprung soft wobble of a bike, doesn't even compare to the aggressive long travel suspension or ground-clearance of the DRZ. The CRF is a beginner's bike, essentially a 250L with a bit more power, that's it. Trust me, I know. I own a CRF250L, I've ridden a 300, I've also ridden a buddy's DRZ400 many times. It doesn't even compare. If you're riding anything remotely technical beyond cruising dirt roads, the DRZ wins hands down. I am blown away that you could even make this comparison, never mind say the CRF wins. Oh boy!

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

he struck me as an unknowledgeable rider too. and you just proved it i'll be getting a drz for sure over the honda

[@Max-kw4px]

And don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love a 400cc dual sport with fuel injection and a 6 speed transmission. But those things mean nothing if the bike doesn't have good suspension or if it's a heavy 'adventure bike' tank that can't actually do any technical trails. The beauty of the DRZ is that it's simple, light, and powerful. If Honda can come up with a 400cc that actually is meant for high mileage riding, awesome. Their 450RL is NOT it, it's a road legal dirt bike with super short maintenance windows. The DRZ400 I can ride cross country with and also go rip trails - perhaps old technology but so far unbeatable, sorry.

[@brah5206]

hello from Poland. I also have a Honda CRF 300 L, but for a 4-year-old wonderful daughter, I have little time to enjoy the motorcycle. A great recommendation for a chair and I hope to get one. Best regards

[@chrisredfield3240]

Hate how the klx300 sm only has a 130 rear. And 110 front my 49cc aprilia sx50 supermotard has the same size. And the rims are 3.5 and 2.5 so to narrow to really mount a wider tyre without pinching. Even the yamaha wr125x has a 140 section. I would like to see at least a 150 on the klx300sm and the crf300m

[@yahweh1x543]

Bro, I'm up in Canton if you ever want to hit up some spots. Let me know! I have a 300L I'm slowly building up. Got some suggestions for you if you're interested.

[@AdventureDano]

Hey Tanner. Can you pull the ABS fuse on the 300l? We can only get the ABS model in Australia. I want to know if the bike still runs as normal otherwise.

[@dk.650]

My 2005 DRZ400E plated from factory is in pristine condition. She runs like a dream. Nothing has broken yet. Tyres, chains and sprockets replaced as wear n tear. Brilliant bike. My 2010 SM the same. Nothing broken yet. 2013 DR 650. Brilliant as well. Yes they are old. Wonder how that CRF will look in 16 years. CRF has 2 advantages. 6 speed and efi = better fuel economy. That's it.

[@motoXplore23]

Good point but I'll go for the drz all day long 😅

[@flfreaks3745]

I owned a used 2008 DRZ400SM and figured the reason Suzuki don't bother to upgrade it's bike to modern specs like you mentioned in 9:48 and has been the same technology since like 2004 is because they rake in so much profits in selling DRZ 400's spare parts rather than the whole bike itself. Change or upgrade any of it, the current spare parts will be obsolete and any new part will add a whole new production cost and time for them. The atrocious price tag of the new edition of the bike is just snobbish way of Suzuki saying 'Yea it's expensive. If you dont want to buy, we dont care because there will be always someone else that buy it.' The know damn well the DRZ culture in supermoto community. Plus the culture of DRZ revolves around how much accessible the spare parts to get without the need to check your bike's manufactured year. If the whole biker community around the world boycott new editions or abandon their current bike to the junk garage to force Suzuki to upgrade it, Suzuki can just announce they will stop DRZ and its parts production and that will be end of it. So year it's a love hate relationship with DRZ. Do I love the DRZ? heck yes and its the most fun bike to ride with. Do I want to buy the new edition? No way it's a waste of money

[@kennygraves489]

I'm in ohio also up by sandusky. Do you know of any dealerships that will allow test rides on New bikes? Would love to get a duel sport or maybe an adventure bike as I know I probably won't do hardcore offroad riding. I was looking at the 300l rally so I could maybe put it on back of my jeep.

[@badlandsadventure]

Thoughts on the 300l vs the 300l rally?

[@PlatinumRatio]

I'm not triggered, but I think a lot of people like the DRZ for reasons that don't suit you. It suits two demographics, 1. younger guys without a decent budget, and who are okay without the glamour... an entry level bike that has 20 years of production on the road, spare parts and all that, 2. The return rider 40 y/old+ men. That's me. I don't care about the difference in performance. It goes fine. I don't care how it looks, but that it does everything and isn't much trouble.

[@kidjam43]

Hey, amigo! You just saved me a massive headache and a lot of money. Was hoping on a drz.. ha jokes. I’m in Costa rica rn, rented a 125cc honda dual. Man I’m having fun, can’t wait until i come back to the states to get me a honda!

[@garageliving3658]

Can't seem to keep fork seals good for very long in the 250l. Usually last about 5-6 months. Yeah I do alot of wheelies but never set it down hard. Wonder if the front fork upgrade would be worth it.

[@sumokid]

That’s odd. I’ve put my 250L through hell and back and never touched the fork seals. I ride about 50/50 and my bike has over 10k miles

[@stevehoward3981]

I had to change the fork seals 3 times on my 250l. It hated to be carried. I used mine mostly for the trans america trail.

[@mrchrisknight315]

So a lot of people here are saying the drz 400 is better then the crf300l. Every where else people say they are bad in the trails? I want the Kawasaki KLX 300 but can't get it. I have the option of a brand new crf300l or a used drz400. 900$ difference. I've ridden up to a ninja 1200, but never ridden dirt bikes. I figured I'd go low and eventually make my way up to a 650 once I have better skills. So can any one give their opinion on Wich Nike is better in my case? I'm thinking Honda will get me more money back in 1-2 years since there is much less for sale where I live, and dealers tell me they have alot of people that trade in the drz 400 compared to the CRF 250/300. Also I know the suspension is soft on the CRF, but I do have a bad tailbone. I can ride sport bikes all day long, but put me on a cruiser and I'm done in 2 hours.

[@AdventureDaily]

The DRZ are great bikes as well, but they are carbureted and have some older technology however many people run them effortlessly off road. Maybe see if you are able to test ride the 300L to see if you like it. Not sure how you are more comfortable on a sport bike as that is usually the most uncomfortable riding position for a lot of people so you will just have to find what works for your riding style! Best of luck!

[@joecamel6835]

noob

[@Quinnjamin2020]

There are a lot of pros to the 300L; although the same could absolutely be said about the drz.

[@1ksquid07stuntlife6]

Opinion on the klx300r? Ended up with an 07 in a trade and absolutely loved it. I did let it go to an offer I couldn't refuse but im considering picking up the new model.

[@TheEc1ypse]

The klx oes have a better suspension, and a bit more power, but I would sacrifice a tad bit of performance to get the 300l as it just looks so much better. As long as you aren't riding it hardcore enduro then you should be good. If you are then fuck looks and go for the klx. You can always upgrade the suspension on the 300 if you need to tho.

[@1ksquid07stuntlife6]

@@TheEc1ypse see I think the 300r looks better than the 300r imo . I would be getting the non sm model

[@mecalpsha4473]

@@1ksquid07stuntlife6 Get the Kawasaki the performance is better and suspension.

[@JohnSmith-pf6qk]

Loving the videos man !! great job. have you tried Samuel Smiths Imperial Stout? if not give it a go !!!

[@thelongbow141]

Have you looked into getting the ECU flashed by 550 Performance? Supposed to be a nice easy upgrade.

[@kurthedgecock6313]

I have owned a crf 250l. I was not thr right bike for me. I love what you did with your 250l and what you are doing with the 300l. I would love to have a fuel injected dual sport but I'm not ready for crf 450rl or 350 ktm or husky. I currently have a dr 650 and drz 400sm. I am hoping that Suzuki will bring out fuel injected 6 speed drz 500. However I think the odds if this are low to non-existent.

[@robertmorrison107]

Why buy a DRZ? I am an old head who works on carburators. Quick swapping 2 sets of tires gives me 2 different bikes. I can let my step son on it and learn to ride both on and offroad. I'll eventually buy a KLR 650 or T7 and let him take it because I'm big and need to be on a tractor.

[@capesterr1]

Love the DRZ bought mine 2012 thus far zero problems. I'd buy another one for the simple reason of reliability.