Do Pets Watch TV the Same Way Humans Do?

[@sign543]

I can’t imagine the amount of time it would take to not only figure all of this out...but remember it to the point that you can TEACH it like this!

[@FilmmakerIQ]

A teleprompter helps ;)

[@numb3r663]

I projected skyrim onto my wall and my Australian cattle dog would bark at the deer in the distance. He could see and remember a city that contained a cow and recognize it on approach. When I would pass through the gates and it loaded the interior of town my dog would sit and move his head around with my character movement and as soon as he heard the guy always preaching in the town square would put his paws on the wall and when i turned my character to face the cow he would loudly bark and try to bite its nose but only smear dog slobber on the wall. He also attacked the dragons. That was an led dlp 3d projector i think was 60 or 120htz. He also watched my dlp 3d 120hz 61 inch rear projection tv while i was at work.....He loved commercials and would recognize the talking pig in gyco commercials'.... even the intro music he would remember and run from a different room at the sound of the music before the pig even spoke..he then would excitedly bark at the pig while I yelled at him not to spit on the screen. He would whine and nervously chew a toy when I watched a suspenseful horror scene ....when the jump scare came he would jump up and start snarling at the bad guy until i yelled to chill out.He loved the music video to Helena beat as it contained a dog of his breed......I know for a fact a dog that watches TV from a pen using dlp tech can see and is fully aware of the images and mood on screen....no doubts in my mind,my dog was a trip but he wasn't trippn--- I filmed it on my phone. I never knew this topic was up for question.

[@jdsgotninelives]

This is how real content creation looks and sounds.

[@IllKeepALightOn]

Rare to get a discussion of this kind of topic that is simultaneously scientifically specific and philosophically subtle. Kudos!

[@GameSack]

Christie 35mm projectors used a single-bladed shutter that spun twice as fast. This supposedly allowed a touch more light through. Most other brands/models of projectors used double-bladed shutters. Usually it was 16mm etc that used the triple bladed shutter. I've never seen a 35mm with a triple bladed shutter, but then again I'm old as dust now so my memory is no longer perfect... only like 98% perfect now. Anyway this is a great video and I'm shocked it only has 18K views. I also liked your 2018 video arguing for 24fps which I watched before this. That one is at least approaching the views it deserves. Good research and good arguments. And I agree, 24 is perfect for "le cinema" and 60fps et all is good for videogames and soap operas (and I guess sports). Though I do think the "look" of old 60i video cameras have a certain look that makes me nostalgic now... I mean I certainly don't MISS it. I just like it the same way I like damaged film. I really DON'T like dirty or scratched film unless it's an aesthetic I choose as I am "creating content". Anyway I'm rambling. My point is that the Christie used a single-bladed shutter and it was cool. Your life is now enhanced +10% with this knowledge.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

It is changed... That's cool

[@robert3333]

This channel is like VSauce for movies. Thanks for your effort, great video!

[@B.D.F.]

These videos are wonderfully delightful.

[@thomashenden71]

The peripheral vision has a higher sensitivity to flicker, thus, you will see flicker more easily, and be annoyed by it, from your old TV, if you are not looking directly at it. I also experienced, sitting near the screen at the cinema, with bright, high keyed movies, annoying flickering, and even my plasma TV at home, seems to flicker sometimes, even though the theory shoud suggest, that it shouldn't. Regarding CRT TVs and monitors, I would also suspect the type of TV/monitor to be important, eg. green phosphor seems to flicker less than regular black and white or colour, due to longer residual photon emission after each scan, especially if the green phosphorus is heavily exposed, like in old radars.

[@Worstplayer]

Great video as always. Only one small nitpick about OLED displays: they actually *can* flicker. This is done by refreshing the display at higher rate and inserting black frames. Currently it's only used for virtual reality (yes, flicker makes things look more real, isn't that weird? ), but might appear on regular TVs soon.

[@musaran2]

It helps our brain to register the image change, right ? It is fascinating that there might be tricks to make artificial images seem more real than reality.

[@gunnaryoung]

when I saw the title I was worried you had run out of ideas, it was much more interesting than I had thought it would be.

[@ronbandes5630]

Unbelievably awesome episode, with tons of information that goes way beyond the advertised title of video for pets.

[@The_Real_Pimpaho]

Made a lot of sense to me now about as to why my 27" curved Samsung monitor has a refresh rate of 72 instead of the traditional 60 or some higher end 144. Glad I found this video.

[@numb3r663]

get a 240 or 480 monitor when that one starts fading....My 1080p 100000:1 contrast ratio led dlp 61 inch 3d monitor is butter smooth using my computer as a media center with no pixel burn in is possible....60 hz sucks cause 29 and 24 fps do not render frames evenly at that cycle....movies still are made 24fps and render perfect at 72,120,144,240,480hz ect. When I run 3d it drops from 120 fps to 60fps....Its Samsung also but 11 years old ;)

[@jMcWill781]

Now I'm not saying you should come to emerson college to do a lecture next year...but...*slides four dollars*

[@DarienDragonFox]

Where did you get a whole 4 dollars?! Thats like rich people money!

[@nellomaxim]

wow a real reaource of understanding the basic fundementals. literally the best collection of explainations i have ever come across in my life

[@alvallac2171]

*resource *fundamentals *explanations

[@techo___o]

Omg this channel is gold. I can't stop watching after I discovered that dynamic range video.

[@Nick-ft4dk]

Amazing channel. Thank you so much for all of this. Great info!

[@RCAvhstape]

I was wondering what prompted this subject until I saw the last minute of the vid and then it all became clear. FWIW I had a parakeet who used to love it when I played music on Windows Media Player with the music visualizer on; she would fly down from her cage and walk on my laptop's keyboard and constantly gaze up at the colored lights moving on the screen. Also, she would bite my knuckles when I tried to type something or click the mouse.

[@MitchellBowser]

Every time the camera in your intro falls I die a little inside

[@ObviousSchism]

That's the power of the Wilhelm scream

[@SHDEdits]

I don't mean this as a joke. I learn more from a single video then I do from an entire year at film school. Their teaching is way too board. This channel is everything I could ever need, if you keep up the content that is. Loved the new one on dynamic range.

[@DBrown-ig8em]

Going back to the 1970's, my cat always seemed oblivious to whatever was on the TV. One evening, I was watching a story about BF Skinner and his animal experiments. There was a grainy, black and white clip of his pigeons responding to incentives and disincentives. When this started, my cat sat up abruptly and then crawled slowly across the floor to the TV. She lunged at the set, but bounced off. She then walked quietly out of the room.

[@MrSlimShot]

I've only recently found this channel but i quickly fell in love with it. One of my all time favorites for sure.

[@NerveEnd]

16:27 Who would've guessed this guy is also an incredibly talented ventriloquist!

[@HoryShiitMan]

I've watched that same point in the video like 15 times and still can't figure out whats going on

[@zusurs]

He just mispronounced something and instead of re-recording that segment or splicing, he just overdubbed.

[@NerveEnd]

Sorry dude, but that's not what happened. It's pretty self-evident that this guy is a ventriloquist and/or a wizard!

[@indiegun]

Absolutely amazing video as usual. Near the end you bring up several good questions about just how animals perceive emotional intent through music, imagery, movement, color, editing etc. Although not empirical proof one might search YT for 'dog reacts to Lion King saddest scene' for a video which was posted two weeks before I wrote this comment. It's impossible to deny that some or many of these exact elements are being fully emotionally understood by the adorable pup in the video you'll find.

[@samsmith1580]

I have always been able to see the flicker in old TVs. When I was looking at them every day it didn't bother me but the occasional time I see them now they make me feel sick.

[@xponen]

@Lau Bjerno, I believe individuals had varying flicker fusion rate and it is not constant. I once saw flicker on my LED light myself and I don't know how.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

I've noticed it to with my peripheral vision being much more sensitive to flicker than my central vision.

[@samsmith1580]

No I can see the flicker when I look directly at the screen. I live in Ireland though and the screen refresh here is 50hz as opposed to 60hz in the US. Filmmaker IQ Another great video. Thanks for posting.

[@voxorox]

Great video as always. Wanted to point out one thing, though: 5:33 ... You misspelled "fusion" It happens.

[@CharlesTheClumsy]

Great video! I just saw how many subscribers you have. Amazing since it seems like it was only yesterday you had less than 2,000 subscribers. Time flies.

[@zaniq23]

I am reminded of Bill Murray's Scrooged and Robert Mitchum's character who believed in programming for pets.

[@matheus5230]

One interesting thing is how animation can get away with a far lower frame rate than live-action. 12FPS often works well enough for lots of not fast motion, while it would be unacceptably choppy in live-action. Hell, even 8FPS can be acceptable in some cases. In fact, the choppiness of lower frame rates is often desired for aesthetic reasons (like Spider-man Into The Spider-verse did, with Miles being 12FPS for most of the film, but he is animated at 24FPS when he becomes confident enough to be Spider-man).

[@derekroberts6654]

Your animated intros has an effect on my dog. Has half yorkiie and half shitzu. For some reason when he sees those little guys and those reels rolling on the floor, he goes absolutely ballistic....

[@surajbanerjee8958]

Love your videos ! Keep it up :) Btw love to see a comprehensive video on film grammar. You guys are my film school basically :P

[@renzenriquez8672]

Frequently uploading lately... that's amazing! :D

[@runfreeparkour3241]

AAAAAHH I love these so much keep making these!!!! You explain what I have never heard explained before!!

[@Nebula37]

Excellent video! I don't even have any pets right now, but the information is still so interesting.

[@atallguynh]

Loved the rabbit at the end. This was how just about every chess game with my little brother ended (I was the one throwing the temper tantrum).

[@bazsnell3178]

Obviously, I watch movies of all genres to enjoy the characters, plots, nuances etc.. (but favourite - -American- favorite) is Film Noir).But beyond the film as shown on-screen to the viewer by the director, cinematographer, et al, your excellent series gives me a greater depth as to what effort goes into the finished product. Many, many thanks for your insights.

[@albertbuksnis5167]

Thank you, so fascinating and so informative. Thank you for the work and research you did.

[@forrestdean8665]

Greatest film channel easily. And I know everything

[@ah-ray]

My niece has a cat called Sputnik, when the tv is on it normaly doesn't watch it except when James Bond is on and it really runs away when explosions happen (even when there's no sound). It also goes often looking behind the tv if it's there. A real James Bond fan, weird

[@samyong4148]

This is a wonderful video explaining the question.

[@Songbirdstress]

Wonderful, thank you. I learn so much with you!

[@djrbfmbfm-woa]

excellent as per usual john. j.

[@TSGEnt]

This was fascinating. Thank you.

[@unfa00]

I love that post-credits short!

[@CharlesTheClumsy]

I've been wondering about this so much recently. If animals see frame rates just like humans. Ok, time to watch!

[@RomanStranai]

This is so awesome and really interesting. Great work. Love your content.

[@zukaka84]

How about color perception? I think RGB will not work for animals. I was hoping you would talk about it as well. But still, great video.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

That is a topic I avoided because it opens up a lot more rabbit holes to dig through. Does RGB work for animals? It should because RGB sort of simulates the range of wavelengths in the "visible spectrum". But not all animals have RGB cones like we do, and we certainly fine tune TVs to what looks good for us. But dogs only have two set of cones - so they see color less vividly than we do. Cats may be similar. Those Burmese water fowl we talked about could distinguish bowls of different colors watching a TV screen. It's really very much at the frontier of science. Lots of what we think we know is speculation. There's still a wide field of study with lots of unanswered questions.

[@padoco73]

Filmmaker IQ Possible topic for a future video? Sure, we could do the research, but a lecture from a quality instructor would create much better retention.

[@LaikaLycanthrope]

@@FilmmakerIQ There's also the question of what things actually "look like" in their minds .. especially when you're talking about creatures who are scent-oriented more than sight-oriented, like dogs; they know the images they see aren't real because they can't smell them, and dogs self-identify by scent, not appearance (hence why they don't care about their image in a mirror, they care more about what they smell like, than what they look like.) Consider that the mammalian eye apparently sends an upside-down image to the brain, which then inverts it so that we see the world as, well, right-side up, if I remember my grade-school physiology correctly. Now, consider an alien species - whose physiology is nothing like that of anything on Earth (and consider that the eye evolved independently here no less than 40 times, and we have the only eye design that sends an upside-down signal to the brain) -studying us. They would have no way of knowing that we do NOT see the world upside-down, unless they were capable of asking us directly (and we'll assume here that our means of communication is totally lost on them.) This is kind of the situation we have with other species. Oh, and consider the dolphin - apparently they communicate ("talk") by sending each other ultrasound images, and they can do so very quickly, so as to make .. a silent movie, projected straight to each other's brain through the "melon". Cool, eh?

[@lucidexistance1]

I've been wondering this exact thing every time my cat defiantly sits in front of the TV but never ever glances at it, just at me.

[@TorgoFraNorgo]

This would have been a prime opportunity to do a study of color vision vis-à-vis RGB displays. Part 2?

[@haohuang6616]

How about color? CFAs of regular sensors are designed for human trichromatic stimulations of human retina in order to reproduce "the same" color. I quote the same because the real colors and reproduced colors are ONLY the same to the normal human, namely, metamers. We do not record the whole SPD, so the display process does. so I think for those animals have different color sensitive functions, the color will be reproduced in a strange way.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

Yes you're right but the question becomes how close does trichromatic color "simulate" real world color for other animals. And here we have a real experience problem because there really is no way to get across the feeling of a color between species... Heck we can barely explain the experience of color amongst ourselves!

[@Luckylukeproduction]

You put some much work in your vides!

[@alvallac2171]

*so much

[@kaylee9291]

Lucky Luke Productions videos*

[@JourneyKaLani]

Acid trip for dogs. hahah good thought. All I can say is my dog doesn't come back with new theories or enlightened after watching dog tv.

[@JonesP77]

As a german, i have to say "Gestalt" sound spoken more like this: Geschtalt st=scht and not Gestault, it is just an "a". Geschtalt ^^

[@909sickle]

It’s almost like the worse you are at seeing, the better you are at watching TV.

[@XprPrentice]

I'm watching this on Dec. 1, so it's maybe time to watch "Scrooged" again - and its scene about programming for cats. Being that was 1988, I wonder if it would hold up to your examination, John.

[@resolutehamster]

Terrific explanations.

[@franklinmichael671]

If you were to watch a video at 240fps where each invidivual frame was shot at a shutter speed that virtually removes motion blur would your mind "fill in" that motion blur? Or would the movement feel unnatural and weird?

[@ThomasLuca]

Hahaha, the end cracked me up John

[@esotericVideos]

So when fast spinning objects appear to be spinning backwards to the human eye does that have to do with our CFF? Which is sorta like a framerate?

[@musaran2]

No, it has to do with media frame rate. If a wheel spins 0.8 of a circle between each frame capture, it will seem to spin 0.2 backward, but the motion blurr will still be that of 0.8. And rolling shutters (that don't hide the whole frame at once) can make it much weirder.

[@Peter_Scheen]

Your emphasis on gestalt should be on stalt not ge. Great video. I always wondert how my cat perceived tv. They like birds and sometimes even attack the screen.

[@avi8r66]

The Gecko made me laugh, thanks

[@andysmith5012]

My dog definitely reacts to other animals on TV and watches our flat screen for long periods at a time. She not only reacts dogs but horses and dragons as well. She loves the Game of Thrones. I never saw anything like it.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

If your dog likes GoT - she is a very smart dog with excellent taste :)

[@tysonmartin3099]

Thank u for this video!

[@bH-tz6ow]

Sir, this video is so so inspiring that I decided to write a thesis on this subject. Thanks a lot for this incredibly knowledgeable episode. Im clueless where to start, where to get these information. Could you recommend some related books on the possibilities of animals enjoying cinema?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

There aren't any books on the subject matter yet. The first hurdle is to see if animals actually perceive the screens the same way that we do So look up research papers on animal critical flicker fusion frequencies. But beyond that I think the research is still wide open.

[@CoconutChunkz]

Hey filmmaker IQ your videos are really great. Could you make a video on HDR and why things get blown out or too dark?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

Exposure and dynamic range are on the list of topics we're working on ;)

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

"Hi! I'm John Hess from FilmmerIQ.com."

[@bloodgain]

My cat loves KZbin. His favorite channel is Shawn Woods for the Mousetrap Monday videos.

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

my cats do. they react to the cat commercials

[@videolabguy]

Arf arf! That last bit was very bunny!

[@teashea1]

My doggies and kitty enjoyed watching this

[@StudioBonn]

Thinking about pets thoughts...well, a good point to start. But to speak with them is a little bit more complicated. So my first reaction. Secondly I thought about the scenery to talk to extraterrestrials... So shouldn't we talk with our pets first before we talk with extraterrestrials? Sorry, way too confused in my head, but that's what I thought....

[@LaikaLycanthrope]

They probably think we're nuts. Anyway, my cat seems to like cartoons, especially those that are brightly coloured and have a lot of action. I've also seen her staring at sci-fi movies, and she probably wonders why she only sees human-type people, dogs and birds (as opposed to all the different kinds of things she sees on TV) when she looks out the window. :)

[@quadrplax]

What's the purpose of showing the same image three separate times? Couldn't the flicker problem be solved just be reducing the transition time? The disc could look like the one for 72 Hz, but with only one of the blades.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

Because the flicker then would only be 24 Hertz and noticeable.

[@yberen]

I don’t understand why three bladed shutters are needed. Why not remove the two blades that are obstructing the light while the film IS NOT moving and only leave the one that cuts off the light while the films DOES move? This way, we get rid of unnecessary flicker and also we get more light. What am I thinking wrong here?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

Three blades result is LESS flicker. This is because the flicker fusion threshold is around 50-60hz. Above the threshold the flicker goes away and the light looks solidly on. If you flickered a light 24hz, the flicker would be unbearable. Triple that with 3 blades and you get 72hz which will look solidly on.

[@yberen]

@@FilmmakerIQ I’m not sure if I could make my point clear. In the three blades scenario, each blade blocks the light for 1/144th of a second (assuming the blades have an angle of 60 degrees). But the film is advanced during only one of the blades. So, for each frame the light is blocked for 1/144ths of a second three times, two of which are unnecessary. We could have a single 60 degree blade during which the film is advanced. The duration of the darkness would still be 1/144ths of a second (therefore, it would not be more flickery) but it would happen only once each frame, instead of three times (hence more light overall). Am I still missing something? 😅

[@FilmmakerIQ]

YES you are missing the fact that a single blade projector would result in 24hz flicker which is VERY NOTICEBLE. It doesn't matter if the duration is 1/144th a second, it matters how many flickers per second. Three blades results in 72hz flicker which is above flicker fusion making it NOT NOTICEABLE (although there can still be some artifacts that can be seen) The higher the flicker, the LESS NOTICEABLE it becomes. That's how florescents work which flicker at 120hz but look like they're always on. Yes, we are trading off flicker for light intensity (how dimming works in RGB LEDs), but that's a tradeoff for getting closer to the flicker fusion threshold of the eye.

[@PLDfilmschannel]

Do you record in front of a black back drop or green screen??

[@FilmmakerIQ]

We shoot in front of a Greenscreen.

[@legendp2011]

My dog watches tv and gets excited every-time a dog appears, first started watching as a pup in 2007 when we had a plasma tv, now watches on a 100hz lcd......curuis if thats why other dogs don't get excited becuase there tvs are 60hz lcds or crts back in the day)

[@sunilrajjc]

Good one...Thanks

[@quadrplax]

What about colors? Given that the red, greed, and blue colors our TVs produce are designed specifically to align with the cones in our eyes, would the colors look wrong to other animals?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

Maybe, maybe not... Dogs have less color vision so the tv may look just fine.

[@numb3r663]

Even if they see a color difference they can still see it just fine----same as we see b&w tv vs color

[@nateo200]

My old dog would watch the pet channel like any other human. If you didn't leave the TV on he'd get pissed lmao. I've done some brief testing with my other dog but he's 10 so idk if he's game or just wants me to get out of his face.

[@LarryKelly]

My dog recognizes other animals and children on my OLED TV and barks accordingly. Her favorite show is AMERICA’S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS.

[@CharlesTheClumsy]

Hey Vsauce, John P. Hess here!

[@timparsons3565]

This needs to happen!

[@RCAvhstape]

Filmmaker IQ hasn't sold out to Red yet, so at least there's that.

[@r4miro]

Isn't actually an electric field (instead of magnetic) what deflects the electrons in a Cathode Ray Tube?

[@Worstplayer]

Magnetic field created by electric current.

[@r4miro]

Oh i see, so they use coils to generate the magnetic field.

[@Worstplayer]

Correct. When you open up a CRT TV it's those two copper coils wrapped around the tube, technically called deflection yoke. (yeah and if you actually open up a CRT, don't put your fingers anywhere near those, even when the TV is off. The fact that they're two conductors wrapped around an insulator also turns them into a giant capacitor that you REALLY don't want to touch. Like 20000volt of don't want to touch :) ).

[@FilmmakerIQ]

I remember my dad telling me the exact same thing when opening up a CRT TV - do not touch!

[@r4miro]

Right, the flyback. Anyway, just read that some old electronic instruments used electric field to deflect the electrons instead of magnetic field.

[@zxit]

2 videos in one week :)

[@narrotibi]

Sometimes one CAN find quality on KZbin!

[@teashea1]

excellent again

[@SaturnCanuck]

Excellent

[@ivokoimecs]

Nice!

[@aylie1103]

CONNIE

[@BubuSnow93]

My cat definitely saw things on the PC screen and kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIKYk5V7lpadgKs. I love how he tried to go behind it once he figured there was something solid protecting the bird

[@johnhmaw]

Brilliant.

[@ksaspectre]

Fake 60p? Also nice vid

[@FilmmakerIQ]

The 60p of this vid only to demonstrate an effect.

[@ksaspectre]

@@FilmmakerIQ Makes sense. I could tell the background footage was not 60.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

It was only for the frame rate vs Hertz demonstration

[@ksaspectre]

@@FilmmakerIQ yeah I understood

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[@JoshKaufmanstuff]

Your Video and Audio is out of sync. Sometimes worse than others. Is this a KZbin problem?

[@CourtneyCoulson]

Boodgee?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

How do you pronounce Budgie? I really would like to know because I've owned several but I've always called them parakeets

[@gocrazy5981]

Dogs?

[@FilmmakerIQ]

That's right bitches.

[@vanillaghost9455]

Have you tried acid before?

[@numb3r663]

Have you ever swallowed the colors of the sounds you hear?

[@artbricker9216]

V.

[@Alex1611AD]

So you believe evolutionism. I expected more from you, sir. Very interesting videos, nonetheless.

[@FilmmakerIQ]

+Alex Cryshan 1611 I don't need to "believe". All you need to do is look at the embryos of all species to see how we're all connected.

[@chrisrus1965]

It's pronounced "gesh-TALT", not "GESS-stalt".