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Do RAM Brands Even Matter?

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@JG-cj2kt
@JG-cj2kt 5 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the actual memory chips aren’t even manufactured by the RAM manufacturers. That’s why the label on your RAM doesn’t matter nearly as much as AMD or Intel who exclusively sells the chips they put their names on.
@rahulnishadxd
@rahulnishadxd 5 ай бұрын
Exception being Crucial in Consumer Ram Category
@szymonkedzierski1978
@szymonkedzierski1978 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact NVIDIA and AMD also don't, TSMC manufactures their chips
@minetiract
@minetiract 5 ай бұрын
Samsung lol
@JG-cj2kt
@JG-cj2kt 5 ай бұрын
@@szymonkedzierski1978 True, but you can’t get an AMD or Intel CPU with a different label on it. You can get a Samsung or Hynix memory module with tons of different names of them.
@leovang3425
@leovang3425 5 ай бұрын
​@@szymonkedzierski1978 And all AMD and NVIDIA chips are branded as AMD or NVIDIA. No confusion.
@thewhiteknight9923
@thewhiteknight9923 5 ай бұрын
Everyone always asks how much ram you have, how fast is your ram, what is the latency of your ram? But no one ever asks how is your ram😢
@SioxGreyWolf
@SioxGreyWolf 5 ай бұрын
Actively on fire. Actively on fire. Every time I ask.
@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506
@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 5 ай бұрын
nobody cares because they got da ryzen 4070
@FBIslade
@FBIslade 5 ай бұрын
Single, metaphorically and literally And suffering because of it
@Emeraldpig52
@Emeraldpig52 5 ай бұрын
@@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 oh god what has he done. I've even seen the ryzen 4070 comments on mryeester's shorts
@total_noob_death
@total_noob_death 5 ай бұрын
getting rammed.
5 ай бұрын
Brand that does matter: AMD Why: Ryzen 4070
@ta_to_mam_wyjebane
@ta_to_mam_wyjebane 5 ай бұрын
you mean ryzen 4070
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
I love the ryzen 4070
@SnapdragonRyzen4070
@SnapdragonRyzen4070 5 ай бұрын
I think you mean Snapdragon
@aramidedaud8084
@aramidedaud8084 5 ай бұрын
​@@SnapdragonRyzen4070it's a joke
@Xaezy549
@Xaezy549 5 ай бұрын
​@@aramidedaud8084 (clueless)
@xirabolt
@xirabolt 5 ай бұрын
From what I've been seeing, what's truly important is the brightness of the unnecessary, distracting RGB LEDs on your memory
@rosslomath
@rosslomath 3 ай бұрын
If you want the fastest ram you need the go-faster lights to do it...😅
@ryananggoro493
@ryananggoro493 Ай бұрын
Those lights increase my fps 20 more
@JUVARBS
@JUVARBS 28 күн бұрын
The lights give the RAM plot armour
@that_weird_game
@that_weird_game 5 ай бұрын
pettition for zack to put a ryzen sticker on every rtx 4070 he sells 👇
@malgareth
@malgareth 5 ай бұрын
Too far
@TBTornado
@TBTornado 5 ай бұрын
He doesn’t sell GPUs
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
Signed.
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
​@@TBTornadohe coowns jawa
@KyaHuMei
@KyaHuMei 5 ай бұрын
Signed😼
@bf3and4highlights83
@bf3and4highlights83 5 ай бұрын
I ask if it's Samsung, Hynix or Micron.
@whohan779
@whohan779 5 ай бұрын
There's actually Nanya and Windbound too, but they're inferior and have
@ABDZA313
@ABDZA313 5 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter that much.
@spaghettiupseti9990
@spaghettiupseti9990 5 ай бұрын
@@ABDZA313 yes it 100% does. micron when its really pushed to its limit can hardly reach 5600, samsung can get to 6000 with pretty decent latency and hynix can go significantly higher depending on the varient
@alexis_angel
@alexis_angel 5 ай бұрын
​@@spaghettiupseti9990Missinformation
@issacrosen
@issacrosen 5 ай бұрын
100%
@MartinLovasz-r7r
@MartinLovasz-r7r 5 ай бұрын
Back in the day memory brands were very important as you had to match memory with the motherboard as you had to be sure they would work together.
@Nenemon
@Nenemon 5 ай бұрын
When shopping for memory, if you really care you should be looking at the chips the manufacturer is using as they usually don’t manufacture these themselves
@Haydatsanime
@Haydatsanime 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but some companies have made it much more difficult to find which die they use, like you can have the exact same product ID and every other kit is different.
@Rqndy23
@Rqndy23 3 ай бұрын
Also CL is important
@DrEtzor
@DrEtzor 5 ай бұрын
Why do i feel like the real question isn't what was answered but more like "why do people not care about if their RAM is SK Hynix, Samsung or Micron"
@renokarnou
@renokarnou 4 ай бұрын
Because they look for the specs instead of the brand
@tommerker8063
@tommerker8063 4 ай бұрын
because nvidea and amd graphic cards and processors are based on different architectures. while ram isn't
@THE_ONLY_being
@THE_ONLY_being 3 ай бұрын
​​@@renokarnou hey I am thinking of buying a GPU for my server the GPU i choose is PNY Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 Ada 48GB GDDR6 384-bit can you tell me if anything is better than this and I don't want to buy a rtx 4090 as it's has lower vram capacity and vram is everything for a server and I already use a ASUS matrix 4090 24gb platinum so I don't want to spend like 5000 dollars for a GPU which was 24gb less vram
@renokarnou
@renokarnou 3 ай бұрын
@@THE_ONLY_being well it depends on which thing you need more like do you need more capacity or speed. Last time I checked the 4090 is faster but I don't remember by how much. Personally I feel like having more vram would be better for a server
@OctagonalSquare
@OctagonalSquare 5 ай бұрын
The nice thing is RAM really only has 2 stats to worry about. And all you need to ask is “are these two stats higher on this set or the other?” And pick the highest in your price range. With CPUs and GPUs, there’s not only more numbers, but they are more abstract. Yeah, higher clock speed on the same chip will perform better, but more cores at a slower clock speed can be better. And the microcode and bios can optimize usage of the hardware better for some brands than others, even if the specs are the same. It’s not cut and dry based purely on stuff like Teraflops Plus, with AI tools and such, the brand and model makes a difference in what games play well even with the same specs, but all games just like more, faster ram
@guyman1570
@guyman1570 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention L3 cache is now a big deal in how your CPU handle loads of varying sizes too.
@SToXC_.
@SToXC_. 4 ай бұрын
Many many more things matter about ram depending on your needs, its not just mhz and size
@AmdRyzen4070
@AmdRyzen4070 5 ай бұрын
Just get a ryzen 4070 which lets you download ram
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
Correct
@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506
@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 5 ай бұрын
bro these 2 guys are doing everything for the ryzen 4070 fr
@WreeperXD
@WreeperXD 5 ай бұрын
​@@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 fr
@un4given265
@un4given265 5 ай бұрын
Dumb ah bum ah
@ghostgamerpro156
@ghostgamerpro156 5 ай бұрын
Best explanation and 1 more reason might be is the naming and easy to understand things.
@mhrcracing
@mhrcracing 4 ай бұрын
Bro just unironically said "thats just the way it is" without ever answering the question of why
@jackjackson5498
@jackjackson5498 4 ай бұрын
Did you just not watch the video?
@mhrcracing
@mhrcracing 4 ай бұрын
Yes he never once says WHY ​@jackjackson5498
@addison_reilly5904
@addison_reilly5904 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU i thought i was going mad. Why is the model important for cpus but not for ram? Its because the model is important for cpus and not for ram.
@send_love
@send_love 4 ай бұрын
the answer is that there is a grand total of 3 relevant names. amd, intel, nvidia. wow... now you know.
@mhrcracing
@mhrcracing 4 ай бұрын
@ybvb nope. There is powercolor, asus, msi ......it's a really long list of GPU manufacturers. AMD, Intel, and Nvidia gpus is equivalent to numerous dimensions of specs in RAM and that's what isn't explained in this video.
@funni5036
@funni5036 5 ай бұрын
i dont need to know any other models when i know that my trusty ryzen 4070 will get the job done
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
You can count on it!
@Opiver_1368
@Opiver_1368 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDuckteryour in everyone's replies if they dare mention the legendary Ryzen 4070
@funni5036
@funni5036 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDuckter I love you
@ashaihimoto
@ashaihimoto 5 ай бұрын
16 gb's of DDR 5 💀
@ddddur
@ddddur 5 ай бұрын
mr fancy pants here 💀
@AMDFan-s1y
@AMDFan-s1y 5 ай бұрын
1 KB of DDR1 Ram 💀
@MrJerppu
@MrJerppu 5 ай бұрын
@@AMDFan-s1y They never made any DDR ram below 128mb iirc.
@lordmike9331
@lordmike9331 5 ай бұрын
​@@MrJerppuJust because they didnt make it doesnt mean he doesnt have it. Hes something of a scientist hinself.
@_5_0_
@_5_0_ 5 ай бұрын
4gb ddr3
@2020Tech4U
@2020Tech4U 5 ай бұрын
RAM should be researched, if you like OC'ing your DIMM's then looking for Samsung B die or SK Hynix can sometimes be really tough, the brand on the cover does not make the memory they buy them in lots and slap them on a PCB, you can look online and type in the name of the set and hopefully u type in all the letters and num,bers and hopefully u get the correct details.
@alissma
@alissma 5 ай бұрын
Calling the cheapest corsair ddr5 stick the super high quality is wild
@imo098765
@imo098765 4 ай бұрын
Thats kinda the point isnt it. You buying from a "premium" brand name but its not that good
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 3 ай бұрын
I had 3 kits of that Corsair ram and they all were broken
@purplestakan2486
@purplestakan2486 5 ай бұрын
This video actually reminded me to turn on EXPO. Thank you man
@craxity
@craxity 5 ай бұрын
"Super high quality Corsair kit" 😂😂😂
@loganj4594
@loganj4594 3 ай бұрын
What's wrong with this statement? Corsair does provide high quality RAM as far as I know
@craxity
@craxity 3 ай бұрын
@@loganj4594 They build overclocked RAM. It's not high quality.
@loganj4594
@loganj4594 3 ай бұрын
@@craxity So what would be considered high quality?
@craxity
@craxity 3 ай бұрын
@@loganj4594 To me high quality RAM is provided by the DRAM producers Samsung, Micron and Hynix.
@Detir47
@Detir47 5 ай бұрын
What’s great about learning game development is knowing why those numbers matter on a coding level and what the code has to do to run the game. It’s an endless loop looking for updates on character movement and idle animations in the background. The more moving parts you have in the game the more code is being looped so needing the best cpu and gpu makes the most sense.
@lancehiggins828
@lancehiggins828 2 ай бұрын
dont forget that rgb adds AT LEAST a 5 to 10% boost in performance and cool factor
@lovacc_1967
@lovacc_1967 5 ай бұрын
For server building i have noticed it is quite important if you have a better brand qualiy built your server will be able to handle way more applications at once than a lower end model
@pancakejaywithtie
@pancakejaywithtie 5 ай бұрын
Ram falls in the category of, ok 32gb is what I should get for ddr5 or 4 for editing but 16gb is all I actually need for gaming itself, 3200mhz cl16 or 6000mhz cl30 is just the sweet spots
@Krugster
@Krugster 5 ай бұрын
6000mhz cl30 hynix A die
@filippetrovic845
@filippetrovic845 5 ай бұрын
But when you know to copy Buildzood’s timings it becomes basically irrelevant what speed and latency is on a label. Did you know you can basically make 7800x3d out of 7700x? Its insane but you can check hardware unboxed “zen 4 on roids”.
@lolschrauber
@lolschrauber 5 ай бұрын
That's debatable imho. 16 isn't "enough". Neither is 32. Why? Because the memory management in Windows is super annoying. Disable your pagefile, then play a game, watch a stream, have discord open, maybe stuff like G Hub, Razer Synapse, that kind of thing all at once. Your stuff will crash eventually. Though at the same time you can argue that it IS enough, since that's not normally an issue because the pagefile is set to a dynamic size by default. And it works quite well nowadays with fast drives. Most monitoring tools will only show you how much ram is in use on first glance. You could actively use 12 gigabyte while having 16 gigabyte allocated in total. Your game wants to reserve an additional 500 megabyte? If Windows can't make that available in time, which is pretty much never gonna work without the pagefile, the game will crash. This may partially be due to each running software, itself but generally, windows often allocates too much ram for too long. So yeah under normal circumstances, no amount is enough while every amount is enough at the same time.
@pancakejaywithtie
@pancakejaywithtie 5 ай бұрын
@@lolschrauber I said “for ddr4 Gaming 16gb is all you need” sure some new big titles are taking ALOT more now but that’s those titles and ddr5 32gb is just what’s pushing to be the new standard for that platform The mhz and Cl timings is just the sweet spot for those ram Platforms atm. ddr5 can change a year from now. Ddr4 started under 3000mhz so I’m predicting a similar scenario for DDR5
@Lykarian1504
@Lykarian1504 5 ай бұрын
So I currently still have DDR 4 and 3-4 years ago I had several games that required 20GB of RAM alone. I would currently no longer build a gaming PC under 32GB. Even my office laptop has 32 GB. I'm currently building a new one and will take 48GB or 64GB kits. Of course only 2 bars so that he can achieve the speed.
@dereklarsen8766
@dereklarsen8766 3 ай бұрын
and the reason that the model matters more is because the architecture of cpus and gpus get's super complicated super fast, and even small changes can make a big difference. So it's easier to find something that has definitely performed well.
@VedanshMaan
@VedanshMaan 5 ай бұрын
I also heard a launch of RTX 9 14900K
@Nitsnok
@Nitsnok 5 ай бұрын
Next video Idea: Please talk about the GTX1060 cuz I have one and pushes 120 fps in Fortnite 1080p recommended graphics(not that I really play Fortnite but is a great example😂)
@Blue_Doge
@Blue_Doge 3 ай бұрын
tbf it's suuuper easy to know the brands when there are only 3 brands in total for cpu and gpu, and those are probablly the parts people care about the most, while there are tons of brands for ram, ssd's, motherboards, psu's, and cases
@UraniumEater1
@UraniumEater1 5 ай бұрын
Could you prove my friend to not buy a no-name power supply ?
@skeibl
@skeibl 5 ай бұрын
Maybe 20 years ago I put together a build for my roommate. She was strapped for cash so I cut corners using a cheap TigerDirect barebones kit including low end case, motherboard, and psu. I should have known by looking at it that it was just trash sheet metal and capacitors, but the specs were right and it had all the connectors I needed *shrug*. First power on attempt the psu shot out a blue electric fireball that rapidly bounced around inside the case and freaked us the fuck out. Fortunately, only the PSU went bad. I was worried the whole build was gonna be toast.
@UraniumEater1
@UraniumEater1 5 ай бұрын
@@skeibl dang thats exactly why i dont want him to use that
@o0Silverwolf0o
@o0Silverwolf0o 5 ай бұрын
Tell him the psu is the one component that can literally destroy the ENTIRE computer and a cheap no name will not likely have the proper overvoltage protection to protect it.
@UraniumEater1
@UraniumEater1 5 ай бұрын
@@o0Silverwolf0o it worked :D tysm!
@sametshabani9233
@sametshabani9233 5 ай бұрын
Nicely put dude love your vids keep em coming ❤
@beatles42ohgg94
@beatles42ohgg94 5 ай бұрын
i was just under the impression everybody got tridents.
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba 5 ай бұрын
Maybe basic builders 😅
@EduardoRivera-cz4od
@EduardoRivera-cz4od 5 ай бұрын
wut u talking about, the trident Z looks the nicest to me (that rhymes... but Imma use the royals in my upcoming build... ITS SO FUDGEN NICE, ok gn, but def trident is a basic piece... and vengeance​@ImAlsoMerobiba
@drigondii
@drigondii 4 ай бұрын
The reason is that consumer grade ram all performs tasks the same way, just at different speeds and amounts. Different brands and generations of cpu and gpu perform their tasks in different ways with efficiency focuses on different groups of tasks
@arthuralcantaradecarvalhop2010
@arthuralcantaradecarvalhop2010 5 ай бұрын
cuz the ryzen 4070 already has 128gb of ram
@TheDuckter
@TheDuckter 5 ай бұрын
Yep :)
@Ryzen-4070
@Ryzen-4070 5 ай бұрын
Fax
@indyvanderploeg1926
@indyvanderploeg1926 7 күн бұрын
Got teamgroup delta 7200mhz 32gb ddr5. 100% reccomended great looks, rgb and quility. And a life time warranty. Never had any problems with them as sm1 thats new to pc and pc building
@AbsoluteSadlad
@AbsoluteSadlad 3 ай бұрын
they have wonderful observation regarding their question. this video perfectly demonstrates their point. the DIY market at large (and yourself) does not care about memory & just bases everything off of marketing. IC's are what matters.
@junaidy3077
@junaidy3077 13 күн бұрын
"sure the brand still matters because they have differences in quality" in mario accent 😂
@Cryptic141
@Cryptic141 3 ай бұрын
its crucial to understand whaat you actually need at the moment, if you're on a tight budget lol
@minotaur470
@minotaur470 3 ай бұрын
"the nerds do" i got called out so hard 😭
@hiroshiganna9078
@hiroshiganna9078 5 ай бұрын
Tip, ryzen 7000 (especially x3d) series prefers 6000mts and anything over that will start to lose performance, so having the shortest clock cycles i.e. Cl30 is best
@happenstancially4132
@happenstancially4132 5 ай бұрын
Another way to look at it is there are only a few CPU, and GPU brands out there, but there are hundreds of brands of ram. Like he said, quality does come more often with brand names, but there are countless brands to look through
@Neonalig
@Neonalig 5 ай бұрын
On that as well, it's also a fact of how many companies make each component. When it comes to GPUs and CPUs there's only a small number of core companies that make these components (Intel, Nvidia, AMD), and they're the root of your build that all other choices have to come around. It's easy to remember them all. But for parts like RAM as you said, there's hundreds of companies all making similar products, so it's easier to just focus more on the specs which make a bigger deal of difference, instead of purely focusing on the name and model by itself.
@bravo1554
@bravo1554 21 күн бұрын
we don't want one single company or two to take over the ram market and make the prices skyrocket too competition is always in our favor we should support many companies to compete in cpus and gpus more as well
@holophs
@holophs 5 ай бұрын
There are more companies who make ram and only few who make gpus or cpus. So for us it would be hard to remember the good models of RAM from 20000 models
@SToXC_.
@SToXC_. 4 ай бұрын
More companies? buddy its just 3-4 companies that make memory chips for everything
@holophs
@holophs 4 ай бұрын
@@SToXC_. are you sure? Check RAM manufacturer list
@gl835
@gl835 3 ай бұрын
Honestly ram doesnt need fancy brand just need to have enough memory for your cpu + gpu to run smoothly and compatible ram type to your mb
@Rottypops
@Rottypops 5 ай бұрын
Im sorting by Amazon review ratings, with my focus on review positivity and stability.
@Johnny_C137
@Johnny_C137 Ай бұрын
My GPU usually hits up to about 2600-2700MHz under heavy load.
@jamesalewis
@jamesalewis 5 ай бұрын
Same with storage of all sorts. RAM, HDD, SSD, USB flash, and even optical. The difference is, fundamentally, standardization downstream of processing. Storage can be standardized, but processors are always improving and can't be standardized.
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 5 ай бұрын
Processors are plenty standardised. Otherwise, a program written for an Intel CPU would not run on an AMD CPU without at least a recompile - where the human readable source code is written in the bit patterns that make the CPU do what they ought to do. Yet, it is identical bit patterns for Intel and AMD. Which is standardisation.
@jamesalewis
@jamesalewis 5 ай бұрын
@advorak8529 It's the instruction sets that are standardized, not necessarily the architecture itself. The x86 and ARM instruction sets are implemented in a variety of ways, hence, not quite standardized. Generational changes are substantial. Data storage, on the other hand, is basically the same brand to brand and version to version when controlling for volume and speed.
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 5 ай бұрын
@@jamesalewis Well, HOW the instructions are executed is an “implementation detail”, as long as the same input sequences give the same output sequences. Data storage is very much *not* the same technology, from MFM hard drives to modern PRML shingle drives, to SSDs which use a completely different internal structure from spinning rust, yet are talked to just the same. FTLs do a lot of work to allow for that. And RAM? Caches on 3 levels, etc, is the same as going directly to RAM?
@jamesalewis
@jamesalewis 5 ай бұрын
@advorak8529 I think you're missing my point. Speed, latency, reliability, and capacity are the only metrics against which memory and storage are measured, and the different types and versions, not the brands of such, are what determine it. Processing, on the other hand, is less type dependent and much more implementation dependent, because the exact implementation can have great impact on performance in an application, hence the brand dependency when considering processing hardware.
@caseyking8207
@caseyking8207 4 ай бұрын
It’s the same thing if ram had common model numbers and not a series with specs. Or if graphics cards(chips) were a series by manufacturer and then speed( like ram is labeled). At the end of the day your getting the best speed and performance for your use in both cases just different naming/marketing
@solnada1
@solnada1 5 ай бұрын
More important about RAM, which is sneaky for new people and you only find out when troubleshooting is if the motherboard even supports the RAM you bought, they have a support sheet that lists out the types of RAM supported. Turns out my 32GB 3600MHz RAM can only boost to 3000MHz and remain stable because its not supported on my particular motherboard, manual timings doesnt help either. Go above 3000MHz and the computer faults and is unable to boot, then restores to the default speed
@sethharrington1796
@sethharrington1796 4 ай бұрын
The reason for the difference is the variety of choices. For graphics card there are 3 brands, with one being extremely new. And in those they only have so many models that are logically (semi anyway time drifts it to insanity) numbered for relative performance. So it's not hard or unreasonable to compare them without too much in terms of specific specs. Then there are useful feature differences between the brands that are specific to the brand. Upscalers for example, that may be a feature that heavily contributed to your purchase. Or things like cuda cores which are brand specific. Ram on the other hand has so many brands with the main differentiating factor being their specs which are relatively simple being in 3 values one of which is only relatively important. Those being capacity, speed, and delay. So the only thing the brand means is trust in their quality and other things like customer service and returns and the like. It's also minimal on useful feature differences like over locking in Intel xmp profiles and the AMD one of I remember correctly that they have one.
@pmLite_
@pmLite_ 5 ай бұрын
“people care about the brands for cpu/gpu but not ram because it’s the brand and model that matter for cpu/gpu and it’s the specs that matter for ram” thank you for not at all answering the question of “why”
@EChere
@EChere 2 ай бұрын
We download RAM instead 😎
@poligonbotu
@poligonbotu 5 ай бұрын
bro called me a nerd in 1000 languages
@Artanis667
@Artanis667 5 ай бұрын
You'd think specs, at least dimm module version would be super important for the system builder to know.... guess actually reading anything makes us nerds :P Then it's like, how you gonna find out your mobo is DDR5 and not look at the other aspects of the RAM? Even Amazon will sort speeds and include CAS timings
@vladlvv
@vladlvv 5 ай бұрын
I remember when ryzen came out, it was kinda in between, everyone was aming for the brand and model, where samsung memory chips was used, like corsair vengeance for example. Aming for it to work with the ryzen
@tealordd
@tealordd 5 ай бұрын
That's actually a great explanation
@AkiSyl
@AkiSyl 5 ай бұрын
That main menu is cold as fuck
@wilsonchin5619
@wilsonchin5619 3 ай бұрын
That Made in Malaysia On The AM5 IHS. Mades me Proud
@ryankoch38
@ryankoch38 3 ай бұрын
To me, it is the specs that matter in all components. Im not "team red" or "team blue" or "team green" im team whatever increases my fps the most this year
@mtheoverlord7840
@mtheoverlord7840 5 ай бұрын
I think the best way to explain this, is that a CPU/GPU brand/model is indicitive of performance. If I buy an RTX 4060, performance will be basically the same regardless of brand. Compare that to saying something like the G.Skill Ripjaws RAM, that could mean many different configurations of Memory, speed, etc.
@noam242
@noam242 5 ай бұрын
Or another way to put it: Cpus and GPUs have really different tech for each model so they act differently with the same "brute stats" which results in memorizing bottom line performance for each scenario for each one. Ram tech is so similar all across the industry that the dry stats can easily indicate which one is better, no matter the model or brand.
@MsHojat
@MsHojat 5 ай бұрын
Another reason, highly related to what he said, is that there's no reliable way to measure specs of GPUs and CPUs because they have so many different aspects and technologies to them. In the 90s and early 00s CPUs were measured by clock speed (Hz) for a long time, but these days it's highly unreliable. Wasn't even especially reliable back then, and even then the two different manufacturers had different performance for the same speed.
@jaredong
@jaredong 5 ай бұрын
Don't buy random ram brands if you want to upgrade to more GB ram though. Less popular companies may not have ram in stock in the future for your ram speed.
@lillappy7520
@lillappy7520 5 ай бұрын
Btw,if going to buy another ram like for a laptop that has 2 slot,even if they are different capabilities,it has to be the same brand as the ram that is set to the laptop/pc due to the fact of how they make them,if it is mix and match with a random company type,then it has few chances (the chances are:crashing the computer of they are not *THAT* compatible,games crashing from codes being coordinate differently everytime,CPU using more and leaving less space for the other things to use it like games cause the CPU is trying to remember both the difference mainly the codes)
@alenasenie6928
@alenasenie6928 5 ай бұрын
Is the same for gpus and cpus, but the difference is that the specs are way too complicated for most people, so they just ask the ones that know, vecause a critical part of the specs is not a number, is the architecture, also, there are a lot less options so we can pretty much see test of every option for cpu and gpu and what is best, the partner brand for gpu is a small difference and you just have 2 brands with like 5 options launching every few years, not the literally hundreds of options for ram
@MavestudioR
@MavestudioR 5 ай бұрын
Love the Dbrand case!
@dav1dparker
@dav1dparker 5 ай бұрын
"The nerds do, but most people don't" I feel attacked and proud at the same time.
@ChrisB5_
@ChrisB5_ 4 ай бұрын
Sad part is, while you might be correct, the brand name can often be more reliable. Corsair Vengeance for example is one of the better brands and lines, but it costs so much. For an enthusiast it's a no brainer.. for a builder it's about profit margin. I feel like PSU is another point of neglect for PC builders, though that one can actually be dangerous to skimp on.
@RabbiKrieg
@RabbiKrieg 5 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with RAM is that they market it with the theoretical maximum. So yes my ram in my rig is 6000Mt/s, but with my board, CPU, etc... when i forst installed it, it was running at 4000, and the fastest possible "overclock" i could get to run stable is 5400, with XMP disabled, could not get it to run stable at all with XMP enabled. And I would just like to add, I don't think A lot of people realize or know, that as you populate ram from a single channel to dual channel, and either one dim per channel or two, your theoretical maximum speed decreases. I'm glad I learned that, but I can definitely see where a new builder would get thrown off.
@CarrotKing269
@CarrotKing269 5 ай бұрын
there are also only like 3 gpu/cpu companies we need to follow up on, and all of their models follow a fairly easy pattern to understand. So even if we haven't watched actually reviews on certain models, we can fairly easily guess how good one is, and where it's strengths lie. whereas with Ram, pretty much every company known to man is taking part in it. It's still good to go with a reputable brand, but then all you really need to know is what said reputable brands are, and most of them are fairly recognizable.
@IfritBoi
@IfritBoi 4 ай бұрын
CPUs and GPUs also usually affect your budget the most. RAM specs matter because the price is usually varied regardless of specs because of stuff like brands, so we need to look at RAM kits closer as a result
@SamuelDuley
@SamuelDuley 5 ай бұрын
i love the shout out for the nerds!
@Notllamalord
@Notllamalord 5 ай бұрын
Every ram brand sounds like it’s going to explode the moment you plug it in
@jackshett
@jackshett Ай бұрын
In my IT career I've discovered that brand heavily matters for ram and psu as well unless you're fine with replacing your computer every two years.
@1986arseny
@1986arseny 5 ай бұрын
Over abundance of brands. There are a lot of RAM and Motherboard suppliers. There are only 2 relevant CPU providers, only 3 relevant GPU makers. It's like choosing tires on your car. You'll choose among the ones that match the specs you need, and tjere are reliability, performance and durability issues. Not entering into the minefield that is budget allocation, future upgrades and so forth.
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 5 ай бұрын
Man, this guy made a complete channel out of B's.
@hanin4438
@hanin4438 5 ай бұрын
Also another side note it's a lot easier to remember the naming schemes of the big CPU and GPU brands rather than the individual specs. And they are well documented in performance so you can always look up their ranking in terms of performance while rams pretty much just all the same with different shells on average
@ITzDaveXD
@ITzDaveXD 4 ай бұрын
KEY POINT: Drivers are essential for smooth cpu and gpu experiences so you want a well known company for reliability but ram doesn’t need new drivers.
@BenjaminVestergaard
@BenjaminVestergaard 5 ай бұрын
There has also been cases where an otherwise respected RAM brand has been unlucky with their products either running hot or being outright unreliable across all their series, even the modules that were supposed to be server grade spec. So, us that have been putting puters together since 1999 know that you can't blindly trust one brand. But it has to be said that some brands offer better warranties than the cheapest ones you can find with the specs you want. Also, I don't think it has that much impact today, but when dual-channel came around, the respected brands offered you to buy module pairs that had been tested to be in-sync performance wise, because even slight differences in performance of the two would slow down the entire bus as a whole. Today there are so many brands to choose from, can anyone tell me of a top 3 or top 5 of brands that are in general a safe choice?
@hkhan1989
@hkhan1989 5 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the CPU / Motherbaord limits the memory configuration too, not every CPU or motherboard can run that superfast mhz ram stick as a different CPU or higher spec motherboard. PC builders tend to get the highest spec compatible, then compare prices - as in most cases it will accept a higher mhz ram stick but run at the lower compatibile speeds, so you can buy the higher mhz stick if hit just so happens to be cheaper (e.g. if the higher mhz ram stick was on sale).
@blitzkrieg156
@blitzkrieg156 2 ай бұрын
this guy would make an insanely good teacher
@The_VRTerminator
@The_VRTerminator 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for answering this for me i was going to get ram but didnt know if i should get a good brand like corsair or g skill or another trusted brand but now i know thanks
@NTATchannelNickTaylor
@NTATchannelNickTaylor 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, and I had to learn that the hard way. Try to run 4 sticks of high CL ram on a Ryzen with XMP rig and watch what the memory controller does and that's IF you can get it to Post.
@anggasgk4755
@anggasgk4755 5 ай бұрын
I remember I'd buy certain ram from any brand only if it uses Hynix. So yes, i can be a bit carless about the brand but not the chip maker. Similar case with the HDD.
@blakegonsalves6308
@blakegonsalves6308 5 ай бұрын
Bruh those 3 r the only options for cpu or gpu (for nvidia its gpu only) for custom gaming pc
@afkathisguy
@afkathisguy 5 ай бұрын
I'm in the commercial PC components business. Memory is by far the single most commoditized segment in this space, period.
@dejazO0
@dejazO0 5 ай бұрын
also some cpus don't support high mhz rams so you don't need to go higher than what your cpu allows.
@Pinsonneaultmotorsports
@Pinsonneaultmotorsports 5 ай бұрын
I made sure not to cheap out on ram when I built my pc. 32gb gskill trident Z royal gold paired with a 4070 and a Ryzen 7 5800x. Surprisingly it dose pretty good in 4K. I haven’t experienced any massive frame drops
@raycert07
@raycert07 5 ай бұрын
Theres so many different models of ram, variations of ram, brands of ram. I cant even name every speed that a series runs at let alone every ram model.
@AaronLyNxAI
@AaronLyNxAI 5 ай бұрын
My laptop doesn't have the most flashy interior, or the absolute best specs but it's still the strongest I've had yet, and will eventually be replaced too. For my desktop I'm planning a full rebuild, but once my laptop is done it's basically done
@Weneedaplague
@Weneedaplague 5 ай бұрын
Theoretically if you find ram that isn't hynix or Samsung nand, run for the hills. Also qc on cheaper sticks is awful and you'll absolutely have issues at full speed or just have to rma them
@ArcticArca
@ArcticArca Ай бұрын
I was pretty surprised when he just put my exact model of GPU on the screen lmao, color and everything
@AmaxNation
@AmaxNation 5 ай бұрын
RAM need depend of Motherboard Compatibility, but not on Ryzen 4070 😅
@ThatWhichObserves
@ThatWhichObserves 5 ай бұрын
It's also much easier to remember 1 of 3 brands (AMD/nvidia/Intel -GPU > AMD/Intel -CPU) than the 10-20 'brands' of memory.. SSD's have a similar 'specs-first' but there's also 'brand quality assumptions' so it's a much more mixed bag
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 5 ай бұрын
When I go to forums they always talk about the brand/manufacturer. SK Hynix, Samsung? Yes it's also about the specs. And most importantly, is it in the list of supported RAM by the specific motherboard you have/going to buy?
@buffkangaroodog
@buffkangaroodog 5 ай бұрын
For parts like RAM, storage, etc. brands are mostly just used to guesstimate durability
@pyranitar
@pyranitar 5 ай бұрын
Theres also a lot less CPU and GPU brands than RAM, theres only three to remember and they also make a way bigger impact on performance than RAM does. You can likely fund dozens of RAK kits out there with the same specs, the only difference being price and aesthetics. CPU and GPU performance is also a lot more complicated than RAM performance, with RAM its mostly just capacity and clock speed, however with a GPU theres core counts, clock speeds, power draw, not to mention different architecture just favoring certain games a bit nore than other's.
@bsoda69
@bsoda69 3 ай бұрын
The thing I have learned from Zach is, to get DDR5 RAM at a minimum 6000 speed and Latency/CAS/C/CL30-36 not higher than that, and get DDR4 RAM at speed 3200/3600 with Latency/CAS/C/CL16-20 not higher than that.
@MinhPham-si3rv
@MinhPham-si3rv 5 ай бұрын
Chip manufacturers matters for the performance (which difference is minor) and stability, the brand makes different heatsinks that prevents overheating and also rgbs
@shadyops3535
@shadyops3535 5 ай бұрын
Bro just called me a nerd while looking like he only eats soy. 💀
@RetroArcadeGuy
@RetroArcadeGuy 4 ай бұрын
And ram is probably the toughest and cheapest part of the CPU, making it upgrading to better rams later in life an option as well. I.E. upgrading your whole CPU but getting green ram sticks, and next month buying heatsink rams with pretty RGB.
@Artrysa
@Artrysa 5 ай бұрын
This is the kinda shit that makes me put off getting a pc built. I got no clue what the hell I'm getting.
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