Do schools kill creativity? | Sir Ken Robinson | TED

[@sarac9752]

It's incredibly upsetting how old is this and how everything is still the same.

[@--Skip--]

That is because educational leadership like principals never listen/watch, "TED TALKS."

[@beautifulrecovery2337]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmKUpmasqcijl7s This little dude refers to this.

[@iincisif8599]

​@@--Skip-- I debate with my principal about the fact that school should change and he said that he totally agree but he can't do anything... LOL

[@ElynnLight]

agree!

[@iincisif8599]

@@ElynnLight but people are close minded because of it so they never understand

[@obalfaqih]

Loved this quote: "If you're not prepared to be wrong, you'll never come up with anything original" - Sir Ken Robinson

[@MikeS-um1nm]

Omar Balfaqih The only person who never made a mistake is the person who never did anything!

[@EndlessSummer888]

I used that quote in a speech I gave about the crisis of creativity (ie, the LACK thereof). "Children are not afraid of being wrong. If they don't know... they'll have a go. And I'm not saying that being wrong is the same as being creative. But I AM saying that if you're not prepared to be wrong, you never will be creative. Write that down."

[@MikeS-um1nm]

@@EndlessSummer888 NICE!

[@jasonharris6853]

@@MikeS-um1nm No success happens without failure.

[@jacobbarnees597]

I literally read this as he said it 😂😂

[@theonlyjoe_]

It’s so sad now that he’s gone, he will be dearly missed, Rest in peace Sir Ken

[@qjay56]

1950 - 2020 RIP Sir Ken

[@montexic5201]

Actually?! Sorry to hear that, damn... rip

[@moobloom3718]

Press f to pay respect F

[@howardkoor2796]

😢😢

[@howardkoor2796]

RIP. 😢😢😢♥️

[@The3nlightened0ne]

R.I.P Ken Robinson (1950 - 2020). Thank you for your work.

[@jamesduff6937]

Arggghhh... geez:) I am going to buy his book Epiphany to keep him lasting.

[@anjr6282]

What?!!! He died?! 😭

[@iche9373]

It's SIR Ken Robinson, you gotta respect his feudalist title.

[@kim_suro]

How he died?

[@iche9373]

@@kim_suro by sudden illness

[@daniellasteiner8435]

Almost 10 years since this video was posted and unfortunately nothing has changed.

[@aman1245singh]

:(

[@iliketotrolololololo]

Things will most likely never change unfortunately :(

[@RRbattlefield]

The awareness since then has grown drastically, both in students, and those in the workforce. I'm waiting the the college bubble to pop, then things will change. 😉

[@86bushi]

haha same observation, mmm

[@SPYTHandle]

I dont agree. As Skylighter !!!! pointed out, the awareness of this problem has grown immensely . I believe that the education system, like everything that needs reform, is going to get it in 20 years at the most. People are not stupid, they can see its not effective, it will just take some time to shift the paradigm, as with every core social construct.

[@smartgaming6842]

Do schools kill creativity? Making an entire class write something they have no interest in and forcing them to have X amount of words. Yes. I would say it does. It kills the want to learn.

[@VinzPDL]

While it may kill creativity, school does help to expose kids the work that they will have to so in the future. Without it, future adults will be overwhelmed and unprepared for jobs that actually makes a difference, i.e. Engineers and doctors where there are a lot of work as well as pressure against mistakes

[@bisacool7339]

It's because our system works that way. What we need is a sustaining system that maximizes the human capacity of doing things at the same time preserving this to our specie.

[@VinzPDL]

Who will invest though? I do agree what you are saying but to make a change, somwonw need to first propose a system, and then test it which is time consuming and could be excrutiatingly expensive

[@bisacool7339]

VinzPDL And what do you propose though, living on a crappy anarchic capitalist society? Human successfully change societies according to history and we can do that again. Maybe when everybody is suffering.

[@bisacool7339]

VinzPDL When this living continue, humanity will kill its own specie. Our system mainly focus on progress and development rather than preservation thus ending our only home in a not-so-far-away future.

[@aerozg]

Clap clap. 12 years have gone by, we're still in the same boat.

[@PaynePresents]

aerozg truth

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

Why?

[@dominikf.5559]

i would say hundreds of years passed by and we still educate the same way

[@bioskopandchampagne]

They will first tell you about how it won't fit into the budget. So sad!

[@hendywijaya3213]

yeah people doesn't want that.. government want cheap labor who has no critical thinking, just do as they told, never question anything, and pay tax..

[@luiscmyk0824]

11:27 - 11:50 - his words were spot on. In a world of youtubers, digital creators and meme makers, you actually don't need a degree in, you need creativity.

[@RikSolstice]

True, it's killing me to see school slowly killing off creativity in nieces and nephews as it robs them of qualities they will need later on in life. Much more than that though it's robbing them off the ability to have fun for about 6 hours a day. And that's just in elementary.

[@akshat8586]

To make and maintain the devices you consume the memes and videos on, you do need degrees.

[@codixbrinton4831]

@@akshat8586 Yep. And if no one had degrees, nobody would have made those technologies.

[@akshat8586]

@@codixbrinton4831 that's actually not very true but yeah, degrees help us get all the previous knowledge humanity has collected over the thousands years.

[@massghully]

You took that the complete wrong direction bro, don't gas up youtubers and "meme makers" like these are desirables which have skills worth changing a foundation around ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠

[@aliens3219]

I hate it when you do something a certain way that works efficiently and correctly but the teacher gets mad because it's not the way you're supposed to do it.

[@bruhclay6025]

I solved this math problem and it was correct but my teacher made me do another method that was more difficult but faster and I got a billion mistakes with it smh

[@mikeg5336]

yeah thats really dumb.

[@RadiantSharaShaymin]

Imagine that, but it's every student in the school getting annoyed instead...

[@yourallgnnadie]

It's the way they are programmed. Anything that goes against their rules they can't even comprehend anything different. It's like this for everyone who isn't awake. Anyone who acts differently than the rest of society is told they are wrong or bad. I have to laugh at them because it's so ridiculous.

[@brightbite]

Yes- even my kindergarten teacher (in public school) insisted that I draw eights with and "S" and a cross over it, rather than 2 circles on top of each other. What I always heard-from parents, teachers, etc was: "Do it RIGHT or don't do it at all!" Translation: "I am not here to teach you anything so be perfect (i.e. do it MY WAY) or leave." I was never perfect, so I spent a great deal of time scared to even try. Then I was labeled "LAZY."

[@ryanmarkcamposano2783]

Who's here after hearing of his passing? This is one of the best TedTalks I've watched. It definitely helped me shape my principles as a teacher. You will be missed.

[@starjester6863]

as a stutdent who aspires to become a teacher would u mind sharing said principles

[@starjester6863]

Boyten88 huh i didn’t know he wrote a book I’ll have to read it

[@vishan3388]

Oh god prayers to his family. I usually come back to see this awesome time to time. Shocked to hear him passing

[@howardkoor2796]

Agreed

[@pauldelol]

Omg you’re a teacher? Where do you teach?

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

I hope that people don't misunderstand this video. It's not that school isn't important. It obviously is. However, creativity is not something you learn through typical education. Art is more about experience than it is about knowledge. That being said, knowledge is still very important.

[@BunBunMuzic]

TrueUnderDawgGaming What would happen if this school-system will run for 20-50 years `now on? I can't tell how many "experience-humans" we have but i would say we got a high push of knowledge (we should use that knowledge now, something needs to change), some people are not able to put creativity on the same level as knowledge. EVERY artist is different - that's the funny part about it, everyone has his own mind - so many people believe they are born with this thing called "talent". Most of my friend are involved in art-jobs, one of them always got his sketchbook, the other one is a dance-machine, so go on... i don't have many "knowledge"-people around, some of them just can't appreciate the passion they've got and never lost... (sry for my english, not my native language)

[@projectjt3149]

TrueUnderDawgGaming But wait a minute. I thought extra curricular classes were meant for those with a more creative mind. In other words, classes like home economics, video game design, computer science, music, etc. are all art classes. (Yes, even computer science has art in it)

[@BunBunMuzic]

Engineer Diep Yes. Exactly.

[@DominickDecocko]

For example today in my psychology class they told me that you should not try to treat people if you dont have work experience or the diploma. This implies that they dont want any new possible ideas or self expressive human being that just helps people to get over their trauma. This notion they are doing right now will create more and more people scared of being wrong and always follow the book.

[@woroGaming]

+Eddie Enke The most critical role school can play is to teach you how to teach yourself and how to adapt to the changes in your life. You do need a basic understanding of things like grammar, marth, sports. But adapting and self educating is important as well.

[@zeerakshow]

I am turning 84 this year, and I am seeing how my grandkids are being destroyed by the education system. It is really upsetting, and truly sad. I am still working hard on telling anyone who has ears, to stop the madness, and allow creativity to flourish everywhere.

[@englishinpractice4611]

The audience is laughing but actually what he says is very painful. Schools kill not only creativity, but also innocence.

[@KynBleiddVI]

And rid out possible leaders in intellect fields, we must learn by our own for now

[@sebas8225]

And they also create bullies and victims.

[@nick-db5lb]

they kill individualality

[@JuliaBl]

KMSL everything the parents didn’t kill.

[@englishinpractice4611]

@@JuliaBl right. Actually the psychological damage that some parents cause to their children can be more fatal.

[@AlexandrBorschchev]

14 years and this is still relevant. When will schools realize that grades aren’t a fair way to test effort and just imposes the notion that failure is wrong? I could only hope some brilliant people would think of a way to design school and the whole system such that kids learn and teachers teach, where everyone does their job in an environment that fuels each kids interests and potential.

[@abstract_extremist]

@@zombiekiller7101 that's everywhere.

[@freshmarcent2741]

@@abstract_extremist indeed, happens in like every school, no one shows up for lectures but everyone shows up for exams

[@AcidiFy574]

the geniuses WILL design a better schooling system, but YOU people WILL oppose it it's ALWAYS like that

[@pawelzietek]

@@AcidiFy574 YOU people. And who are YOU? A possum?

[@AcidiFy574]

@@pawelzietek A human being

[@anaezaaubreyborja7546]

I totally agree. As said in the video. “All children are born artists, the problem is to remain an artist as we grow up.” -Pablo Picasso. When we grow up, we become frightened for being wrong and in the school system, mistakes are the worst thing you can make. But isn't school supposed to prepare us for the future? The knowledge we gain from school matters but creativity is still necessary. Students spend 18+ years in their lives taking tests, memorizing informations and spent hours finishing homeworks. However, true learning is born out of lasting understanding, not grades and tests. The informations we memorize fades by the time, but our creativity won’t. In school, even if you’re allowed to be creative, they put a lot of restrictions in it. Students are expected to follow methods instead of creating their own. For example, in Literature. Students are often given strict guidelines for writing things like poems. School makes us create poems that have precise rules for each individual line, making poetry seem very constricted and uncreative. School drains out creativity of oneself.That’s why school must focus on empowering students’ creativity.

[@greggeverman5578]

well said.

[@Lawrence330]

A pervasive concept in the adult world known as "best practices" clearly illustrates your point. We don't stray from "best practices," you don't know a better way, how can you, our way is best? Of course this has the side effect of reinforcing old methods and behaviors, limiting growth, and stifling innovation (the cardinal sin of the free market). But as long as we don't lose a dollar trying it "your way" today, Corporate America is happy. I did 8 years active duty. If I had a dollar for every "we're not paying you to think" I could retire today. The rich think, the poor obey. Consider that next time you go to the polls.

[@sanketmittal5630]

there are rules in poems because there are, its same argument as saying i want to make a painting but the edge of the paper is restricting me.

[@littletvman5816]

As my father said Schools only want what they want and we can't say anything about it

[@maulanalaser4748]

Thank you for writing this down.

[@Axel92ab]

I remember watching this years ago as a teenager. It's amazing how forward-thinking he is! Can you imagine that the issues that he mentioned happening 15 years ago are still relevant till this day.

[@isabeljaramillo3835]

Issues like misogyny?

[@lemondrop8203]

@@isabeljaramillo3835 ?

[@1ianmwangi]

Watching this 13 years later. It Makes more sense. His son is still four.

[@boulkassoumharounadankasso5254]

He said son was four " everywhere" not Everytime.

[@TaeYoungWoo]

So sad to hear of Sir Ken Robinson’s passing yesterday (Aug 21, 2020). This talk from more than a decade ago was one of my favorites growing up, and I hoped to meet him in person someday. An inspiration to so many. RIP Sir Ken Robinson (1950-2020).

[@MrGilRoland]

RIP. His TED talks are legendary.

[@nupkins7813]

rip bozo 🤡🤡 smokin on his pack 🚬🚬

[@TweSunshine]

@@nupkins7813 what?

[@commander_razor]

@@nupkins7813 excuse me?

[@lizc6393]

Was it Covid?

[@coolamericano]

Modern education: Creating people who are smart enough to accurately repeat what they're told and follow orders, and dumb enough to think this makes them smarter than everyone else.

[@UnderscoreZeroLP]

At least I'll be able to make money. EDIT: 6 yrs later i failed out of college now im actually making money no degree needed its not for everyone guys 😅

[@hueykhalidX]

Money is an illusion. You're welcome.

[@Re3iRtH]

+Turn_off_TV (Stop voting for puppets. The system is rigged.) Works for me.

[@hueykhalidX]

Re3iRtH Good for you. Try eating it when the system crashes. It makes good toilet paper though; works for me.

[@Re3iRtH]

+Turn_off_TV (Stop voting for puppets. The system is rigged.) All else being equal, having more money is better than less. But money just came freely as a result of following my passions, not money. The alternative I would have probably been married, with a kid, and miserable. Rather, I can chose to work, not work, travel, pursue any projects I want. Happiness I agree, its internal. But, as Ben Affleck said in Boiler Room "he who said money is the root of all evil, doesn't fucking have any" :p

[@maherushka]

16 years later, still my favorite TED talk. RIP sir Ken

[@PaintDaddy-e8w]

Ken is the goat

[@fabihaashar]

Amazinh

[@acxezknightnite1377]

Didn’t know he’d passed away. What a tragedy.

[@maokaihecarim1822]

Mistakes were punished so harshly in my family that I learned how to expertly avoid responsibility. Can't fail if you never try, right? What a wonderful lesson that was imparted onto me, thank you education system and parents!

[@SPYTHandle]

I feel for you! I have the same issue, but never give up! You can reverse that process. I personally find the answer in therapy. But my therapist is very very good, which doesn't apply to all of them.

[@TheHaphar]

i live with the policy "MISTAKES HAPPEN AND IT HAPPENS ONLY BY ME" with pride, and that's working out good for me buudy. you can try it. ;)

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

He's the funniest comedian I've ever seen and he's not even a comedian

[@athreyaguru586]

@Ryder Loquendero lol you lack sense of humour bud

[@RadiantSharaShaymin]

There arent many things nowadays that are funny... it may just be me, though

[@rr.studios]

You haven't heard a lot of comedians.

[@maxtamang9028]

@@rr.studios omg he's making a joke. jesus u dumb!

[@roodborstkalf9664]

He is not funny, most of the time his jokes are annoying.

[@maulanalaser4748]

Education system cause many highly-brilliant people think they're not. -Sir Ken Robinson Best quote ever!

[@avelus5984]

Relatable. I tend to think that I’m inferior to others just because I don’t perform as well in the subject as they do.

[@---lf5rf]

this makes me mad, because it's true

[@SpeedxLightning]

This is actually very true and this makes me upset

[@laurenskellett4007]

My whole dissertation stemmed from this ted talk, I am an actor and have just started temporarily working in Education in between jobs, heartbroken to find the education still in the exact same state as he talks about, academic subjects with such a hierarchy and creativity still being shrinked if not killed. I hope I live to see this change

[@blairekramer]

This was the best Ted Talk I've seen so far. The humor along with his thoughts made this very enjoyable. Rest in Peace Sir Ken Robinson. Your talents, innovations, and ideas continue to inspire many. 1950-2020

[@cqgod]

Rip man I could listen to this guy all day😔

[@johnlighton7025]

Ja it's what got me to watch ted talks. But he is one of a kind. Is because he still is. You know?

[@SustainaBIT]

this comment has made me feel very sad, I want really to carry on his message and I want to start with my own kid... RIP dear!

[@nobytes2]

This is by far my favorite ted talk. Sir Ken will be truly missed. Rip.

[@justey2]

May he rest in peace 🫡 ...amazing talk and brings up so many valid points... the unfortunate part is that change is rare in the education system...

[@paulramos7497]

Now im staring at my Homework thinking if I should do it or not,

[@HoneyNutHijoles]

Do it but be clever. Have fun. Maybe put jokes in it or something, if you can. Surprise your teacher. Open his/her mind with your personal approach to it. Although, this was 3 weeks ago so you probably don't have the assignment anymore haha. But keep this in mind for future assignments I guess

[@_cloudiiskxy_158]

+HoneyNutHijoles this is actually a good idea, im a senior in high school

[@_cloudiiskxy_158]

+HoneyNutHijoles this is actually a good idea, im a senior in high school

[@iloveanime9226]

+HoneyNutHijoles yeah i was bad at school only good at math and IT, but what i did later on was do my math, science and IT together in programming and try to apply them to some easy short projects. English together with biology and humanities into a thinking puzzles or rhythms to make it more interesting or music and sports. those helped me be more creative and understand those methods/theories better it is just finding the best way to do those subjects and don't just do it but apply it in a way that will make it relevant to you. i used to get around 60% in all the subjects except math which was around 75% But later on as i applied them in a enjoyable way all my marks went to 80%+ In English i went to 90% which was mind blowing because all i wrote was what i watched in TED and KZbin and changed to fit the topic, they told me i was thinking outside of the box and was being creative and thus was better expressing the topic and my point of view, whereas before and others were being static and limited.

[@HoneyNutHijoles]

+BHaDizzle Awesome! Have a blast! Who says homework can't be crazy fun?

[@Melvin-ej1vq]

14 years later after this video I'm still sitting sitting in a room 7 hours a day not learning anything. Nothing changed what a waste.

[@wahajmohamed5339]

So, you should start now to avoid wasting another 14 year

[@Fun-io9kv]

We may need a revolution. Technology will be our primary weapon.

[@jollyroger1357]

@@Fun-io9kv that's y reddit was invented

[@Fun-io9kv]

@@jollyroger1357 then lets start a struggle and a revolution

[@romeo-0016]

Right there with you pal.

[@kitkat2702]

"The whole purpose of public education, throughout the world, is to produce university professors...The universities designed the system in their own image [and the system itself] is a protracted process of university entrance. " *Finally,* someone *said* what so many uni students have been *thinking* and *realizing.*

[@froneotm9565]

So that in the end, it's a none stop loop

[@kitkat2702]

@@froneotm9565 Exactly

[@sireliot2149]

Its been a while since I watched this video, but after two STEM degrees I really think college should be presented as a selection and vetting process. Being selected against is really fun. Lets not kid ourselves and pretend the main purpose is increasing knowledge or problem solving ability.

[@_eirwen]

Hi. I don't understand. Could you pls explain it?

[@christinehooper2078]

When I was teaching, I found it so difficult to conform to the expectation to produce a uniform output from everyone. One size does not fit all. It was true when this TED talk was given and 17 years later, it's still true.

[@TheShaleco]

This is my go to video whenever I am feeling down in school

[@mytubeworldmayhem]

Why are letting school down u after watching this video. Just work on the one thing u r best at

[@rickdeckard1075]

TheShaleco schools dont kill creativity, they kill incentive - and the ability to think, undisturbed, for long periods of time

[@maxkalani]

👆which is required to be creative...

[@GeneralNuisance00]

Yes, it does. I love writing, I'm trying to write a book, but I never have time to do so. I have no time to do anything I love - I have to write essays, tests, worksheets about things I don't care about. Now to open MS Word brings a tsunami of anxiety down upon me when I want to work on my passion project. My mind is mush by the end of the day, and I can't do it anymore... it's disheartening.

[@gabrxael]

General Nuisance I feel this so much. I do a sport after school as well. I really love art and crafts, and this quarantine is helping me enjoy art and crafts more than school ever has. It makes you really think.

[@VideosOfRandomContext]

I LOVE to write and read books; I’ve always avoided listening to teachers in terms of writing lessons, etc because I fear that’s going to ruin the creativity of writing within me and potentially discourage me from ever writing again. I’ve avoided anything that has to do with writing in school in particular actually. I don’t want to lose that writing creativity AT ALL!!

[@AlexandrBorschchev]

@Leandro Aude im sorry but just because you have experienced something doesnt make it a fact, you can’t form any conclusion about “most kids” just basing on personal experience it doesnt make sense

[@zenishi]

Same.. i am trying to write a novel but cannot because of my studies.

[@Mehdi_8V]

I'm an English teacher who is still at the bottom of the totem pole but when I get onto campus, my students gather around me while each one of them is trying to chat with me. I don't go to the office for a while. I just stay there between them while the other experienced teacher usually sneer at my from behind the window. I'm not sure whether this is completely correct, but I've never been too strict with my students. When I'm with them I don't worry to wear my heart on my sleeve. We love and understand each other. Sometimes we don't do homework. Sometimes we watch movies instead of doing grammar exercises. I believe they learn much better this way and I've seen it they do. I just hope in the long run, I'll be remembered as the English teacher who made them smile at class.

[@7times7seas]

Great job. Do keep it up :)

[@maulanalaser4748]

We need more teacher like you.

[@beckc.5084]

I had a teacher like this in high school. Needless to say, I still remember him as my favorite teacher and he inspired me to do what I'm doing now. I think you're on a good track ;)

[@jonathankeen8836]

Can I be in your class lol

[@TheCapedChristian]

As someone who's been fortunate to have teachers like you, thank you!

[@aldovalkovich755]

Intelligence, irony, comedy and depth united in this conference. Extraordinary. Thank you👋👋👋

[@daynasaulsbury4799]

I remember vividly my mother defending my right to be left handed in 1954. "Common sense" was the argument for swatting my hand if I used the "wrong" one. Love ya mom.....

[@petershay2027]

So sad to hear of his passing. May his talks live on to inspire new generations of teachers. He has left an indelible mark on me.

[@julie-annjameson721]

RIP Ken Robinson. This speech gave me the courage to do what is right and home educate my children. Thank you for inspiring so many parents to be brave!

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

You missed the point of his talk lmao. Going to school is still important because parents can't teach children everything they know

[@julie-annjameson721]

@@youraveragepasser-by7367 I don’t teach my kids myself. We have created our own curriculum so my kids learn a wide range of things from great teachers.

[@cribbycrabby7321]

@@julie-annjameson721 how do you do that

[@zombiekiller7101]

School is useless. You can learn everything on KZbin for free but have to go to school just to waste your time and money.😡

[@meriemlassoued4283]

That is so interesting. All parents in the world must be like u

[@sirenjeruty]

This is the best Ted Talk out there. Period . Equally engaging, enlightening and hilarious; delivered in a way that people are not bored nor swaying away from the topic at hand ! All Hail Sir Ken Robinson 🙌

[@jewelymink]

This is the number one TED Talk of all time. Of. All. Time. Clearly it resonates with so many people. Dear Sir, you will be missed.

[@tara.lara.44]

Sir Ken Robinson was truly a visionary and an activist. You will love my first episode of "Be Better Educated" podcast "does education kills creativity?" which is a tribute to his legacy. Its speak many of sir ken Robinson's ideas and also talks about what I am trying to do with Bewso - Better Education Wellbeing Sustainability Organisation which is an answer to his call to action. I am continuing his work at @TheBewso theughani.com/ep1-video

[@karayman1645]

ok karen

[@3allz]

@@karayman1645 ok Karayan

[@Avoidiac]

@@makin-yer-head-itch Actually, it apparently is literally the most-watched TED talk of all time.

[@aleksszukovskis2074]

For me its David Eagleman's "Can we make new senses"

[@compscript7973]

I was just saying that kids tend to know what they want to be when they grow up. High school kids don't have a clue. That is evidence that there is something wrong with our system.

[@yokilo7423]

Compscript fax

[@dragonofepics7324]

Compscript I’m not entirely sure that’s true. I think school causes a lot of confusion for kids, but most kids when they’re young will say something generic, like a fireman or police officer.

[@compscript7973]

@@dragonofepics7324 That is a good thing. A child wanting to be a police officer and given the opportunity to study in that direction would find that there are 100's of specialized jobs relating to being a police officer. Of course the field of interest would change but at least the child would be energized knowing that schooling has a purpose. Kids just do not know how schooling relates to anything in the real world and a career related education would help make that connection.

[@extrapathos]

EXACTLY!!! I remember knowing what I wanted and now I don't.

[@sasukeuchiha998]

@@extrapathos I wanted to be the pilot in 9-11 because they were famous. But apparently, that is frowned upon now.

[@Nero21952]

I wasn't ready to watch a 20 minute video but this guy is such a great speaker! Loved his wit and those jokes in between.

[@mielingram3604]

I didn't even realize until I'd read it in the comments.

[@mattlightbourn]

I will continue to watch this over and over and over again and recommend it to others for the rest of my life. It will always be relevant and enjoyable. You live on sir Ken

[@katrinaaquino2918]

i have a teacher who made us watch this. she is the most amazing art teacher ever. she change my life and thinking in so many ways and my creativity flourished. this is an amazing talk

[@rlb-art7478]

dongbangfan shinkipeia hope u told her

[@williamkoscielniak820]

School kills everything. Creativity, The Soul, Self Esteem, Individuality, Innocence, Critical Thought, etc.

[@nekocat12]

William Koscielniak true

[@iincisif8599]

Totally agree, if you are lucky you will keep the want to learn but if u aren't then it's done...

[@reblfleur3923]

Exactly

[@mikemecklenborg5412]

Yes its called a liberal college!!!

[@elibaerg7436]

The will to live...

[@lucabrazzi8269]

This is the best video I’ve seen for years and I’ll tell you why. There are millions of people who relate to this because we’ve all thought it. It takes a man who has reached the top of the education ladder to say it for it to be heard.

[@Ahmad.3rabi]

I'm from those kids who had started there education journey in 2006 I'm not willing to retired in 2065!, instead I'll retire before middle 30's. I quit from studying Dentistry because it wasn't my passion and I'm that crazy dude in the entire family who believes in what he capable of, and I'll Push myself in sake for helping others and stand against greedyness❤

[@carteryott7710]

“I never let school get in the way of my education” -Mark Twain

[@wolfsoul7016]

Carter Yott same for me

[@snay6869]

I think it was "I never let school interfere with my education."

[@snay6869]

@@wolfsoul7016 How do you? What other is the other source of your education?

[@snay6869]

@Jonathan MOROSHKO yeah ted talks teach a lot

[@snay6869]

@warner tesla yeah

[@keropee100]

16:58 "Jillian isn't sick, she's a dancer" Love this quote now xD, was the same in Elementary school, and yes I did end up going to dance school and I still love theater to this day!

[@borisbazzano7645]

It's incredibly upsetting how old is this and how everything is still the same. School killed my will to live

[@somerandomdude5218]

Yeah schools are still the same... what if I told you schools from 50 years ago was the same as school nowadays? Nothing changed...

[@siegwardofcatarina100]

Dude you okay

[@vootoonn]

asian kids: understandable, have a good day

[@coria6231]

@Isabelle Jiang Can confirm that, my mental health is really poor bc school.

[@rubensalcido9464]

@@somerandomdude5218 I’d say 50 years ago people were probably more considerate. Nowadays, people are always distracted and glued to goddamn tech.

[@juliedavis520]

My son's 5th grade teacher sent this to me ... What is our department of education doing?? He dropped the mic!!! Nailed it!

[@gilmayer1]

RIP Sir Ken Robinson PhD. 1950-2020 🙏 . This is one the most profound lectures about education that I have ever heard. Informative, Funny and Moving. . You truly had one of the most brilliant approaches when it came to the education of younger generations and the challenges that we are facing as humanity 📘❤🌐🙏

[@MicheleTheberge]

This talk is brilliant. I've found someone who feels exactly as I do about the importance of creative thinking on our planet's future. Some of my favorite quotes: "If you're not prepared to be wrong, you'll never come up with anything original." "We are educating out of their creative capacities." "Our education system has mined our mines in the way we have strip mined the earth for a particular commodity. For the future, it won't serve us."

[@thejuicemedia]

brilliant talk

[@anudhawan9030]

One of the finest TED talks I ever came across. This is the first time I was able to complete the TED talks video. Mr. Robinson was an incredible person with an open mindset. We have very few people like him who acknowledges the fact that we need modifications in all our systems.

[@modalize]

I wished to say FINALLY!!! but then i saw the publish date

[@rijulpatel4607]

Mike Wazowski this comment deserves more likes.

[@waterbender2000]

This is a little heartbreaking

[@MC-wo7mm]

You don't like Monster University?

[@AlaaChan]

O_O

[@suvi6091]

Well if it means anything nothing really changed.

[@lovelyboa7130]

#PrincipleofCommunication The speaker really captures the humor of the audiences with his effective verbal communication through educating his audiences with the significant lessons that we can apply in our lives as a student. The way he utter the words is more relaxing. He just act plain fully without too much action, but attracts the heart of his audiences. I can say that the feedback of the audience is genuine the way they applause. And that's because of him.

[@Millez]

I wasn't even 2 years old when this talk was given. This man's words are still true 12 years later, and they affect almost everyone still to this day. I'm glad I got to see this.

[@alvarogastanuadi4145]

I consider this a valuable lecture. RIP Sir Ken Robinson. I didn't know he had passed away. A man with a great mind. I hope my creativity hasn't dissapeared yet 😭

[@gibbishgiggles]

Don't worry, no worries. Your creativity will NEVER BE DISAPPEAR. If you find yourself getting stuck. Fight for it and get it back. You can do it i promise!!!!!!!!!🔥❤

[@stephensmith799]

Reminds me of how much I HATED school and school hated me.... except for a handful of wonderful teachers who made a difference. Thank you to Tommy Jones (simply for conversations) R Gerallt Jones (who gave a label to what I was interested in... and gave me a book "The Prison Letters of George Jackson"), Dr I D Williams (hands on Nuffield Physics) and Mrs Bowen (English Language and Literature). There were some who should have been put in jail and I spit on their graves; but not these.

[@bluemsp2759]

Stephen Smith Q

[@GrilAnimates]

200th like. I agree that teachers need to be more creative with their teaching styles

[@stephensmith799]

@ I’m amazed by the philosophical thinking of very young children age 3 to 6. Eg thinking about himself ‘When I grow up, where will be Daniel’

[@keyemku6399]

I can definitely tell you that school killed my creativity. I used to come up with so many different charecters and stories and all that when I was younger, but I seperated myself from my younger self. I had more important things to do like get good grades and write 3 page essays about a debate as stupid as apples to oranges. And when he came back to me in 9th grade and asked me if I wanted to write a story, I felt nothing but disgust at the thought of having to open microsoft word again having already done so for so many hours. And now I'm in 10th grade and I regret pushing him away and letting him go, and I keep trying to trace his footsteps but he's running faster than I can track and his voice becomes more and more faint. I try and I try so hard but I can't bring back the person I once was after so many years of being told to let him go.

[@LovelyDiscipline]

Me too. I don't know how to bring back that creative writer I once was as a child. My senior English teacher literally bullied me in front of the entire class because my prose was different and "too advanced." I've been scarred by this ever sense and am having difficulty restoring my joy for writing.

[@faerun9952]

It feels like you're already catching up. Your younger self has decided to slow down and give you a second chance. You're running and reaching closer to that creativity of yours. You may not feel it, but it's subconsciously filling your brain to help you create metaphors like these. You're getting your child back.

[@greggeverman5578]

The best thing i think all of us can do for this problem is to let the past go. Don't focus on what happened back then, focus on what is happening right now. Don't worry about the future and don't brood over the past. Your present life needs your creativity and you can access it by just letting it flow naturally. My thoughts.

[@KTSpeedruns]

I used to do the same thing. My family literally told me the same three points: grow up, pay attention, stop daydreaming. I always wanted to be creative. I went into college for graphic design, and I spent the entire 4 years thinking I simply can't be as creative as these other people. They've already got their foot in the door. Their drawings, art, coloring, programming knowledge, cameras, etc. are all better than mine.

[@7times7seas]

Profound. Indeed. I do hope we can each reconnect to our individual creative spirit, completely.

[@weedsmoke8776]

Let’s have a moment of silence for the memory of Sir Ken Robinson, rest in peace

[@ramangogia1284]

Sir Ken Robinson may rest in peace

[@Sky97260]

How did he died?

[@wuffalo]

@@Sky97260 he stopped living

[@kdhd100]

This video is mind blowing..... We need more Ken Robinsons in this world today.....

[@iche9373]

It's SIR Ken Robinson, you gotta respect his feudalist title.

[@vikitheviki]

R.I.P Sir Ken Robinson. What an incredible human being he was.

[@jesspoole4220]

Failure is a necessary stepping stone to sucess, so if you punish failure, you're limiting sucess.

[@siegwardofcatarina100]

That is a good point, I dislike the fact that teachers will shout if you 'are disrespectful' simply by trying to talk human to human over a minuscule disagreement

[@GrilAnimates]

​@@siegwardofcatarina100 exactly, they call trying to improve and learn "talking back"

[@jules8717]

I'm 16, I've been telling stories for as long as I can remember, and I started putting them to paper three years ago. I've always been a "gifted" child--I excelled in math and science, and everyone told me how important and special I was because of my academic achievements, so I thought that my passion for writing was unimportant. I hid it. Even my parents and many of my closest friends had no idea I would pour hours and hours into my stories weekly, or even daily. This year, though, I took a high school writing class, which accompanied my English class. My teacher not only writes but is also very well-respected in the theater community, and has written several original pieces. It was only recently that I had the opportunity to write something creative for his class--a script for an original scene--and by the time I got around to it, I was exhausted from all of my academic work. I wrote the script in under two hours. It was far from my best work, but I simply didn't have the extra time to put into it. After I turned it in, my writing teacher approached me and told me it was outstanding, that he wished he'd had the opportunity to read my creative writing earlier, and that he wanted me to polish it and enter it in a short play contest next year. I'd hidden my love of writing for three years, and almost nobody had ever read, let alone praised, my work, so I was blown away--and I still am. I never dreamed that my "hobby" could be worth acknowledging, but now I was finally being told it was--not by the school system, but by a man who worked in a creative field. In the past few weeks I've opened up more and let more and more people read my work, again, outside of the school curriculum, and I've been told time and time again that I have a promising future in creative writing, if I choose to take it. I've been offered advice, I've been called a prodigy, people have offered to mentor me--it's astounding. And nothing I've shown people has been my best work! But I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that my creative achievements are more important than my academic ones...because only academic achievement is praised by the school system. I still have to sacrifice most of my time to math and science, because in the eyes of the school system, my writing is not worth a grade. In the eyes of the school system, my passion, my devotion to a creative outlet, means nothing. I'm not the only person I know in this situation--my experience might be somewhat of an extreme case, but I know gifted artists and musicians who are also seeing their talent and creativity squandered by the school system. I've seen it at every school I've ever been to, with dozens and dozens of passionate people. I've witnessed the exact moment when people gave up on their dreams because they were told math and science were more important than what they loved. The school system kills creativity.

[@betht840]

how is your writing going?

[@skissors]

Hey buddy, how did your writing go? Honestly, I'd like to get a glimpse of it (hopefully my notifs work when you reply)

[@nitamadam6819]

I shall cherish this day that I'm here watching this as a perspective teacher... Shall try and bring change 🙏

[@reg4321]

School can also kill self esteem.

[@memethief7073]

reg4321 it killed mine for sure

[@cloudhair5921]

🙋

[@blu8993]

🙋‍♀️

[@groovykinq]

Facts

[@MarioLopez-yb1xr]

Lmao middle school fucked my confidence up

[@KokoRoko877]

A monumental thinker, one of a kind; in the same league as Hemingway and Plato. The questions he tackles are most fundamental and thoughtprovoking. First of all he is such a humanly human, one of the best examples of our race. And the sense of humor wraps his words in magnificent warm blanket. Thank you Ken, rest in peace! I know, you are not taking your situation too seriously if you can see it now :)

[@holycannoli64]

Beautifully stated.

[@StuC5]

RIP Sir Ken Robinson. A voice of reason, light and sanity that we (and the children of the world) could ill afford to lose.

[@simoncrann9430]

I come back to this every couple of years as it is simply the perfect speech.

[@bencraven1262]

It's very rare to be so academic, so funny and so confident in public speaking, he was truly the perfect blend of the three

[@TheMadSpirits]

agreed, so many great pointers to giving a speech.

[@jamesduff6937]

So do I. It's an education in how to give a good speech besides his great words of wisdom.

[@NitoriKun]

Is this guy an educator or comedian? Apparently he's both and he seems quite effective at them as well.

[@televikkuntdaowuxing]

Yep, both. He's a genius :D

[@mthompsoNZ]

It helps that he's from Liverpool The survivors from there have to have been one of three things: A good fighter, a fast runner, or able to tell jokes. He got at least number 3.

[@babyspice0206]

Gifted people are more humorous! My daughter's G&T class tested them on humour before accepting them.

[@ArabiaGamers]

Good Educators come from Good Comedians ;)

[@victorle237]

NitoriKun e

[@tovsteh]

1. I agree that schools have become a kid storage facility for children while the adults are at work, teaching them one-size-fits-all random things just for the sake of teaching, and have them remember the information long enough to pass a test. Most Parents of course think this is good, but is it effective? 2. School also serve a more valuable purpose; socializing. This can go both ways if stopping bullying is not a primary initiative, but school is a place where kids learn how to socialize and interact with other kids, which is probably the most important knowledge they'll take away from attending school in the first place. 3. Other than maths, a bit of history and languages, I find that most of what I was taught over the decades I have attend school has been forgotten, because 95% of it has been either uninteresting or inapplicable to daily life. All the skills I utilize in my career have been taught through on-the-job experience. Do we really need 2 decades of school to apply for a job? 4. Why do schools not prepare children for life? Why are there literally no to minimal focus on entrepreneurship/doing your taxes/home economics/cooking/agriculture/world politics/problems?

[@Krosect]

This is making me question if I should even stay in school if almost everything they teach me is completely uninteresting to me

[@Chaps_Jr]

Jacob Krost You should stay for the experiences, not the curriculum. Observe everything that is put in front of you. Question everything you see and hear. Education in the traditional sense, is growing more useless as time moves forward. Take everything you are taught, and formulate a question to challenge the information. I'm only 23 years old, and I've learned more from quietly observing and experimenting in my mind than I ever have from any public -- or even private -- institution. My point is, only you know how you learn most effectively. Teach yourself. Dig into everything and find deeper truths.

[@kaywill9677]

+Josh Conover (Slipstream) But do you really need school for all of that?

[@Chaps_Jr]

GoWarriors Splash Bros. Public schools teach a lot of important lessons outside of the curriculum. The social interaction is what's usually the most important. At least, that's my opinion.

[@kaywill9677]

Josh Conover Okay and I've heard of that before. Do you recommend homeschooling/online school?

[@JeffFieldsMcCormack]

This was really powerful, and very true. Schooling was created to prepare kids for industrial jobs. This began in the industrial revolution, when many more workers were needed. Creativity and skills were not required. They just needed someone who could drill a hole, set a pipe, calculate the angle, construct the train's engine, etc. Our grades are even modeled after grades of work or meat. School needs to update. It is in the process of changing and updating, but we should spend more focus on skills, and less on numbers and facts. Yes, we all need to learn these facts, but we also need to hone our intellectual skills. This is what UIL tries to do with their competitions. They try to take the skills that students already have, (writing in my case), and help the students succeed in that field, or with that skill, by putting them against others with similar skills.

[@elly4342]

Anybody in 2024?

[@jairuspaulmaturan7607]

nothing changed

[@longtreader8987]

I am a homeschooled classical student who graduated high school today. I am thankful for creativity.

[@jjohn1234]

Yes this is some crazy stuff.

[@Nickachuuuuu]

Yup

[@powernoid]

Yep. And just realised that Jeff Bezos throwing his head back laughing at 14:58

[@AnEnglishGentleman]

RIP Sir Ken. You’ve touched the world, with your legacy living on in the lives of the teachers who are fighting to give creativity the status it deserves in schools. God bless you and thank you for everything Sir ❤️🌈

[@naomiabraham5725]

Being creative and talented is not much appreciated in the world. But what society hasn’t realized is that most amazing inventions would not be created if it weren’t for the creativity of the inventors. I completely agree with Sir Robinson’s idea and perspective, the school system is designed to decrease the value of fine arts classes when it should be as important mathematics. I believe that the world revolves around technology and the advancement of humankind, most jobs help society function and benefit it. Which is why the demand for a job is high.

[@thinhvo3893]

I agree with you i think that kids should be able to choose what subject to learn when they are small and discover their own interest in the education system. Like he said kids are creative by birth so letting them discover their own interest would allow them to improve on their creativity instead of forcing knowledge upon them and tolerate no mistakes.

[@manu144x]

Look at Steve Jobs Stanford speech. he said that if he hadn't quit college and be free to visit classes he was really interested in, he never would have noticed the importance of Calligraphy. without that basic moment, we probably wouldn't have had nice readable proportional fonts on computers for years, or maybe never.

[@86SuperRay]

Math is more important than fine arts, but I do agree that schools don't leave much rooms for creativity.

[@Mnatalie99]

I rarely put my hand up to answer a question or ask a question in fear of getting it wrong and being yelled at. Some of my teachers get angry when we ask a "stupid" question or don't know easy things and this is putting me off learning.

[@EndlessSummer888]

I find that very weird, considering most teachers say "there are no stupid questions." Liars.

[@Mnatalie99]

cromusic ibra I actually had a teacher once who said this and then contradicted it by laughing at my question.

[@ABHISHEKTIWARI-qw2gb]

you are paying fee...have all rights to ask a question....no matter how idiotic they are.........be an idiot for a second or for the rest of your life....!!!!

[@matthew5200]

anon I feel sorry for you. it would seem I received the better share of good teachers.

[@bbruce995]

you might want to remind that idiot teacher that your being in that school is what pays their salary and without you asking them, they would be sitting on the unemployment line

[@nlewin5072]

Arguably the mosty important TED talk ever. Its relevance increases every year. I laugh and I cry every time I watch it.

[@Skycube100]

That's why I prioritize my personal work rather than school

[@DrVe-oh5ql]

Karl Beltran same here! :D

[@mickylutes9905]

Glad I'm not the only one

[@abhijaytyagi6808]

Same here man.

[@rudrasingh6354]

Same bro

[@GrilAnimates]

Same here

[@magaraedson8631]

We'll miss you Ken. RIP. How it breaks my heart that all this humour is gone into the darkness of death 😭😭

[@MsClaudiaDuran]

One of my favorite TED talks ever.

[@Lumpi-hd9ep]

I watched this talk for many times and every time I'm touched deeply by his wise words. Unfortunately, he is no longer with us. Thank you so much, Ken!

[@iche9373]

It's SIR Ken Robinson, you gotta respect his feudalist title.

[@JKPancake]

10 years later and still relevant, that's the problem

[@1996Pinocchio]

BRBPancake Come back in 5 years and everything will be the same.

[@vibecheck9434]

BRBPancake now we got common core too

[@sanketmittal5630]

its not the problem he told you about the system and why it is problem, but not why it needs to be so. you need basic mathematics to get through you life but not dance or art or drama, thats why maths is on the top.

[@FinleyMartin]

BRBPancake 11

[@Kwekinator117]

This video was 10 years ago. Nothing's changed.

[@karantolani2511]

Kwekinator117 I think u have changed and that's the biggest change

[@kusada3035]

how exactly?

[@splatproductions99]

My kindergarten teacher crushed my dreams when she told me that I can't be a Jedi because they don't exist. Many tears were had that night.

[@Patrick-xr7zn]

Don't let your dreams be dreams

[@uranus2985]

Achieving your dreams also has hindrances that you must overcome.

[@kittykat123425]

Don't listen to your kindergarten teacher! Follow your dreams, one day you will be a Jedi! I believe in you

[@WilliamKhonggo]

take some sword class and do some meditation it help to achieve your dream

[@isaacs8783]

I think your teacher was a Sith Lord.

[@Gimenez528Hz]

Brilliant .. having ADHD and being an artist and one of lifes creatives, I can totally relate to this 🙏🏿

[@JoshSideris]

It blows my mind that this talk was on Buzzfeed's list of worst TED Talks of all time. It very well may be the best.

[@kalebspell4613]

Josh Sideris buzzfeed is pathetic.

[@minecraftminertime]

It's expected because Buzzfeed isn't accurate.

[@nelfheimb4910]

Buzzfeed is trash. Modern journalism is clickbait trash.

[@milkytoad8388]

Josh Sideris It doesn’t blow my mind, it’s Buzzfeed.

[@rangda_prime]

The subject is important and the observations relevant, but the actual shape of the speech is... abysmal. He is all over the place, which is a shame since he has interesting and important things to say.

[@theomacmillan5271]

As Mark Twain said: "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education".

[@EJFerny]

Theo MacMillan Wonderful

[@Rollinappler274]

Mark Twain was such a forward, incredible thinker

[@micc7846]

Theo MacMillan u said it

[@itsmeomun]

One of my favorite human beings.

[@EJFerny]

Steven Lacey a reflection of glib and to a lesser extent, attitude of the time rather than genuine personal, racial vitriol, I feel. Sometimes it's good to actually use your head

[@prim6162]

l love how he incorporated humor to make his point on education as a serious topic on its on.

[@breadcrumbs4910]

17 years and 23 million views later still people listen to this man. What a beautiful words. Pure gold nuggets. 😊

[@aaronjohnmaughan]

December 2017. Almost 11 years since this talk, and it's true.

[@olgakraievaia]

Leo Tolstoy wrote his articles on education more then century ago and they are still true!!!

[@julieschooler]

RIP Sir Ken. There is a reason why this is one of most watched TED talks of all time. Articulate, funny, eye-opening. I just need to get out of my own kids’ way.

[@wendymoore8954]

My sentiments exactly which is why i've chosen to homeschool my children and expose them to everything they wouldn't otherwise be exposed to in school. Most importantly, a healthy diet, art, dance, astronomy, exercise, gardening, and travel....its not as difficult as people think.

[@romanr.301]

Your children seem to be getting a very well-rounded education! We need to challenge young people to learn about the world from all scopes; institutionalized education sometimes just forces a tunnel view on them.

[@aaishaht]

+Reese Pastmore no not at all. anyone can homeschool as long as they are actually learning the same materials which children in their grade at school are studying. im homeschooled nd it's awesomw. giv it a go!

[@aaishaht]

Reese Pastmore maybe if u explain ur reasons for wanting to study frm home? So that she knows your not just doing it to be lazy or sumthin. And try nd do sum research to show her how good education u can get frm home

[@Northwind-druid]

I come back to this talk over and over. So brilliant.

[@adaliantsiki]

It's hilarious on so many levels

[@celestite888]

Brillian! What an incisive, original, liberating and witty mind...! I love it! He is like a cool breeze on a sultry, suffocating day! Mr. Robinson, are you running for office? Whatever it is you're up to... I am voting for you. Bravo! Keep it up for the sake of all of us... Infinite blessings...

[@lookingupwithwonder]

At first I felt despairing for my kids who have adhd, are medicated and are schooled in a mainstream school that they get bored by... But I also see that I can support their creativity outside of school by listening to and observing them, taking note of their interests and offering them space and opportunities to explore them.

[@moka91808]

Dr Gabor Mate's videos about ADHD (he also has a book) will open you up to the truth behind this diagnosis and set you and your kids free

[@christopheralexander3384]

@@moka91808 He's a snake oil salesman. Learn the science behind ADHD before helping him mislead people suffering with ADHD. Sufferers deserve the truth, which leads to effective treatment.

[@caroldraper5017]

I unschooled my kids. It’s a form of home schooling, and legal in all states in the U.S.

[@ghassanalbohtori5795]

Thank you for all the lessons, wisdom, and laughter you brought to my life and the lives of many others. Just heard about the devastating news of Sir Ken Robinson’s passing and came here to remember him. Rest In Peace.

[@chetanerande]

I have listened this at least 100 times. Every time I find something new.. Hats off

[@rvmlah_]

Being a senior in highschool in 2016 I have to say that things have changed a little. I feel like social media really helped w that and will continue to help students stay creative.

[@danieldyman7196]

true true

[@jimkeller3868]

Unfortunately very few of them know where to find Canada.

[@justvibin1087]

+Jim Keller and many think that Canada is a state of America. Too many...

[@ImJuggroan]

I live on the border of Canada, so everyone knows where it is lol.

[@amittenforkitten7016]

It has only effected some schools.

[@MrMemes21]

Short answer: YES Long answer: Yes, it does

[@idea7957]

VERY SHORT ANSWER: SI VERY LONG ANSWER: (a longest document about schools killing creativity)

[@blackbear1781]

@@idea7957 did you like your own comment?

[@iincisif8599]

@@blackbear1781 Did u like your own comment?

[@iincisif8599]

@@blackbear1781 ahahaha

[@iamcleaver6854]

Is it really the primary reason why schools exist? In my opinion the main point of education is to acquire skills that will earn you a living. Does creativity help in this regard??? I don't really see how...at least compared to skills like maths and science.

[@bi6810]

A brilliantly intelligent, humorous, inspiring and very interesting talk. Sir Ken is so clever.

[@Langkowski]

"Academic inflation" is a good way to describe it. One of the main problems is that individual students don't get the required help they actually need, and many children that have one or more talents never discover what their talents really are. I also strongly agree that intelligence is interactive. That's how you learn. Later, when you have accumulated enough knowledge and experience, you can use this in combination with your intelligence, but before that you need to learn through an active feedback system.