Do the Line 6 Helix Factory Presets Kinda Suck? [not anymore!]

[@gpcnogueira]

It is impressive that Line 6 keeps adding value to our products (last one is a huge example) and do not charge for it. This was already a key factor to recommend their products. Now, with these good and versatile cabs and great sounding factory presets.. there is no reason to not having a Helix product. Great job Line 6!

[@jeramym9506]

They also have amazing support in my experience.

[@nunyabidness5150]

It's awesome they keep making the Helix better and better. So glad i own one. Thanks for the vid

[@kevinp_25]

This new update makes the HX stuff far more appealing to me than it was previously. The ability to tweak the cabs and having good factory presets are both huge improvements imo. If I was looking at buying a modeler today I would definitely consider the HX.

[@dimerocks123]

I immediately loved the new Placater Dirty preset. It's a great starting point for everything "Marshally."

[@Gavindeftrap]

New ? Has it been redone?

[@StratsRUs]

You are the perfect player to show the beauty of musicality . Thank you

[@bobmatthews5720]

Did the factory reset and followed all your instructions and all seems to be working perfectly. I agree the new factory presets are very usable. I just had a play around with the 07A Cali 1V Rhythm and with all the effect set to on . . there are some really nice clean tones and some Andy Summers type sounds if anyone is looking for a quick fix of his sounds.

[@marekgitarzysta5193]

I have always appreciated how companies like L6 take care of and support their products. Can you imagine the Helix technology is 7 years old? And still alive and kicking. Look at Mooers, Nux, Hotones- they may be great on paper but become obsolete as soon as you buy them. This is the difference between boys and men :)

[@ALWTunes]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who left the plastic film over the main screen and the EXP pedal screen. Haha. Thanks for the tip on getting the new factory presets. I always wondered how to do that.

[@sjsphotog]

still got the plastic on my LT's screen (even though its only 3 yrs old now and not as old as many who got it on day 1)

[@paulngardner]

Thanks John - I’ve dabbled with helix but struggled to dive fully into it and yours videos have really helped me understand the possibilities and more importantly give it a proper chance!! 👍

[@serpensnovus9869]

I rather got into the fun of making my own presets, often using John's work as a starting point and then tweaking to suit my guitar. One of the nicest things about the HX Stomp is making the sounds your own. As has been demonstrated many times on this channel the possibilities are vast - it's like getting a new piece of gear every time I fire up HX Edit !!!! Those Blooper like patches using reverse echo and glitch delays are astonishing.

[@cancelbubble6535]

Great intro playing, sounds fantastic. One thing that would have been very useful is to have recorded little phrases/licks before the upgrade so you could play them again after the upgrade. That way you'd have a before/after of the presets. Regardless, the presets sound pretty good to me.

[@DropDee44]

The placater and rectifier presets are insane!

[@willydeangelis699]

Dude, love your playing! So musical and tasteful

[@strikingtwice]

They really do sound and feel great. Terrific playing also, great work

[@phowell333]

A heads up to those with Snapshot based presets that are based on amp+cab that they are going to reload after updating. One of my main presets used Snapshots to change amp settings to achieve higher gain, etc, instead of using additional effects blocks. I lost those parameter changes after reloading...they just happened to use cabs that are affected by the firmware update (another trusted KZbinr said some of the cabs can't be tweaked like the majority of the others affected by the firmware update). Maybe my preset was a fluke...but maybe not. But changes no longer occur with Snapshots-based changes in the amp settings.

[@SimonGaiser]

Lovely set of factory presets and all seem to have a nice stereo image with enough separation. Well done Helix and thanks for sharing Jonathan.

[@metalplatedfacejob]

the new cab engine is extremely good, it's is like a whole new product. The realism is on par and brings the line into a whole new level.

[@espojespo5]

I'm skeptical. All of Line 6's has always sounded artifical and plastic to me. Fractals secret sauce is the modeler I've heard that rivals the real thing.

[@metalplatedfacejob]

@@espojespo5 Fractal is good too as well as Kemper. This update for line 6 bring the whole engine to the next level. The new cab models and the improved cpu efficiency are a huge improvement. It is now out of the box on par with Fractal sound quality for sure. Fractal still has more power and more tweakable effects set ups. All of them need to work on the response a little cause none of them are like the real thing but they are very close and getting better with each update.

[@nick4054]

0:57 bro absolutely insane!

[@narichey1981]

looks like only some of the factory presets got the treatment. everything in factory 2 still has legacy cabs on mine after i reset to factory defaults. the ones that did get updated definitely sound much better than i remember. the new cabs are great, especially dual with them panned and a little delay on one side, sound huge

[@sjsphotog]

thats what I thought it was only Factory 1 that got updated as per the L6 instructions which only mentioned #1 needed to be unchecked when restoring from the backup

[@christianconnett]

Thanks for the info and visuals, not too mention that INCREDIBLE intro jam! 🤘🎶

[@deanandthebeans857]

Thanks for this! Great demo - I’ll be using these for recording straight away!

[@user-eu3mn6ss5l]

Major props to Line 6 for moving to IR files for their cab sims. I still prefer some third party IR files, but the Line 6 new cabs are very usable and a big improvement over the previous cabs. The new presets are improvements - I'd be more tempted to use them. I never used any of the original factory presets. Great video, as usual.

[@sjsphotog]

they didnt "move" to IRs. the original ones are IRs as well its just that before you couldnt move the mic in 3D space so it was harsh sounding when you put the mic in the center of the cone. But the process to "model" an amp and mic is the same. they had to "shoot" and IR to capture the mic and cab in each of those hundreds of positions.

[@user-eu3mn6ss5l]

@@sjsphotog Is there a source for this information (ie that Line 6 has always used IR files for their cabs?). Because I read it wasn't IR files, it was their own proprietary method. Neither of our opinions are evidence. I do want to know the truth.

[@thpark8189]

Another amazing opening track.

[@hip-hopjedi4423]

I subscribed cause of this video, just got a helix and agree the tones are good, but your playing is great my friend.

[@blackie75]

I bought one a couple of years ago and it sounded so bad to me (particularly the gain presets) that I sold it a week later. I probably should have given it more of a go but I'm a plug in and play type guy and I don't like fiddling with things a lot so I just couldn't be bothered. I may give one another go with a small powercab now I'm a little more patient than I was

[@scottsguitarbasics8451]

Thanks for all the info John! Some of these new factory presets are amazing!!! I am back to using my HX Stomp again! Thanks,

[@scentia_est]

How did you get them? I tried it, but there are no new presets.

[@hexoflexo]

Is there a way to get the new helix presets on hx stomp?

[@robgerety]

Are all these same factory presets available for the Stomp XL?

[@picksalot1]

When I first got my HX Stomp, I didn't find the Factory Presets very useful. Now, with the new 3.50 Update, Cab Engine, etc., I'll be giving them another look. The Factory Presets take up slots 1A-42C. If I have "my" Presets in any of those numerical slot locations, they will be automatically overwritten, right? But, if for instance my Presets are in slots 43A and higher, will they remain untouched when restoring the new Factory Presets? Will we be getting a new 3.50 User Manual? So far, I can't find one. 🤷 Thanks

[@jimmy5381]

Hey man great video! I can't seem to get them onto my hx stomp it just has the old ones? I have successfully updated to 3.5 but I must be doing something wrong. Can you do a video on how to import them into the HX Stomp?

[@sboy1955]

Will have to go back and piddle with these..

[@ConstantineM]

Those stock presets great. Finally

[@johnbsouth1]

Love the preset sounds. Great playing as well!

[@johnfogarty3815]

Great video - I'm a fan of your playing as well. For some reason the Factory Presets in the HX Stomp really suck at lest the first 7 banks do... (I'm sure you can use them for something). I wonder why? My guess is that they want to show off the cool effects and spacey capabilities... Just saying... if it was me, I'd get some cool AC30, 67 Marshall, gig-able tones going on early so that you could actually make music with it? Weird, just my opinion - grin..

[@johnnathancordy]

Hey John - the HX Stomp I don't think got updated factory presets - the Helix does, and they sound really decent now....

[@BrandonMilner]

Wow... Great playing! Now I'm going to see if you offer courses to learn to play like you!

[@Mojojojoe]

The intro track is amazing, is there a full version available?

[@sjsphotog]

I keep telling JNC he needs to do more full albums worth of his material into full songs of all the stuff he's done over the years with his helix intro.s just so so so much amazing work waiting to be discovered. He does have an album you can buy of his on Bandcamp (which I did) but we need alot MORE

[@saddestchord7622]

They are a lot better. The only complaint I have is that they're not exactly balanced for a consistent volume between them. Lots of noise gates. I hate playing with noise gates on. But other than that most of them sound very nice.

[@BrentIraEnman]

As usual great playing and explanations! Cheers man much appreciated!

[@newstuff1107]

Thanks god, great Helix presets. I never used them since they were sooo disappointing. Does it mean we have the neural dsp quality presets? It seems like it’s the case. But seriously, why did Line 6 waited so long?

[@juttaman25]

Ok so new to helix. I did the update but did not factory reset. I best do that now

[@bobmatthews5720]

Thanks for making me aware of how to get the new factory presets. I did a successful update, but I didn't realise I had updated the new updates with my own original factory presets - if that makes sense?

[@AlexVonCrank]

I did the same thing 😂

[@bobmatthews5720]

@@AlexVonCrank I imagine there are quite a few players out there that maybe don't even realise that they are running the old presets? Thanks to John for this one. 👍

[@AlexVonCrank]

@@bobmatthews5720 well in the recommended steps they actually recommend you restore from backups which effectively does this. Weird. I figured it out before Johns video but still thought it was odd advice.

[@bobmatthews5720]

@@AlexVonCrank I'm reading the release notes. Next time I think I will do this first! lol

[@MrKornea]

So, if I understand correctly: by following the update procedure with a factory reset, we should have the new factory presets? Sorry, but this part of the video is not very clear... Another thing: it would have been more interesting to make a video before and after to really see the differences.

[@sjsphotog]

read the line 6 update to 3.50 instructions to the T and then all will be well.

[@ramon2008]

From what line 6 is doing, I’ll be a loyal Customer for years. Innovation, quality, and a desire to meet their customers needs.

[@TheBbtlegit]

You always do a great job. Keep up the good work.

[@dazzmetcoll3843]

Update went great but 1 question on the update complete notice it says to factory reset using 9 and 10 but your video says 7and 8 which is correct cheers

[@MajestYYYY]

I play with HX stomp, use only the default presets, some of them slightly tweaked, does the UG to 3.5 improve the sound of existing default presets and why?

[@phowell333]

John - I have been trying to like single coil guitars. GAS created such craziness, I bought and sold 3 core Silver Sky's. Please suggest some models and/or pickups that will give me both the slinky Strat tone and some nice rich higher gain tones. What am I missing? What are the main parameters you concentrate on when dialing in tones on the Helix? I never really liked the 7.25" SS radius but if I buy another single coil, I would love to find a guitar with noiseless pickups that still sound good. I've even considered getting a P90 Revstar and installing some Lindy Fralin humless replacements to get me somewhere in between. For my band, I play my #1 2004 PRS Custom 22 w/coil split (re-wired to eliminate the rotary dial - Paul's only mistake in my opinion). Any suggestions on pups or guitars? The Helix has retaliated against the competition with quite an impressive update.Cheers.

[@JoseRamos-ic4dp]

Hi, does this also work for hxtomp?

[@sjsphotog]

JNC - the Instructions from Line 6 only mentioned Factory #1 that needed to be unchecked. Did they actually do any updates to Factory #2? I only unchecked #1 when I updated my LT today. Strange L6 would have gotten this wrong in their instructions.??

[@aaron9142]

Should the HX Effects have new presets as well or just effects and IRs?

[@valendis]

Do you think these come with the Stomp aswell? I did the update but I probably did something wrong I didn't notice any new presets

[@Artec619]

If after doing the factory reset you restored your backup/setlist the new presets would have been replaced by whatever you had before. Also some of them have the same/very similar names as the old presets, you should check mainly the cab blocks to see which ones the preset uses.

[@serpensnovus9869]

After backing up all my presets, firstly in previous version of HX Edit (3.1) and again in new HX Edit (3.50) Twice in each !!!! Then updated my Stomps and did the factory reset as recommended. This loaded in the new factory presets. I backed up those factory presets and then reinstalled my own presets. I can extract those new factory presets from the backup and try them individually.

[@valendis]

Yes! Thanks guys I found it, turns out I actually did the factory reset and had the new presets, I just did not check the cab section and what was in it as the names were the same.

[@gpcnogueira]

There are fewer presets on Stomp when compared to Helix!? Same for you!? How to download all Helix ones!? Anyone?

[@IIImobiusIII]

With the HX Stomp you have to press Button 2 and 3 when you start the unit. This will refresh your Presets to the new ones. It is essentially a Factory Reset to 3.5 Presets and default system parameters. Don't forget to Backup your Presets first! A lot of the new ones may have the same name but they have been tweaked with new Cabs. Then you have to add back your own personal Presets and Re Tweak the System Settings a bit.

[@ArtificialJetleg]

Hi there. I am confused with the “restore from back up” after factory reset. Is the restore from default really necessary when you don’t want to use those old factory presets?

[@Bradley1957]

Do it and you get the new presets, plus you can copy any patch from a back up so easy, I have never done it before but I did this time and I would recommend it. Copy from back up is in the edit.

[@Fahrenheit1407]

It's to save any of your own presets, global settings and any IRs

[@sjsphotog]

follow the instructions from Line 6 to the letter to avoid any issues.

[@CristiNeagu]

You should have factory reset your Helix when you upgraded to v3.5 😉

[@dazzmetcoll3843]

Great video could u tell me do I do my back up before I update hx edit or after and then update helix cheers

[@johnnathancordy]

Update HX edit, and then you'll be forced to backup before the helix update anyway!

[@dazzmetcoll3843]

Thanks

[@erichatzis5986]

Awesome! You sound great John. Are you running the helix cabs through frfr or an actual cab?

[@pepedecoatza]

Im not sure how he records his videos (and sounds) i assume he records some parts with direct sound of the built in microphone in his camera. Some other parts via Audio interface. But he just posted a video like a month ago saying that he doesn't use FRFR anymore. I was interested on and FRFR system. I haven't tried any yet, but i really thing those devices are not really necessary, so, if you have a good amp, better to keep it, if you are starting with modelling systems and you don't have any good amp, i would consider an FRFR.

[@erichatzis5986]

@@pepedecoatza I hear you. I sold my Powercab for an Origin combo and I think the Helix sounds and feels better through the power tubes but I keep the cab sims off.

[@IamtheFerryMan]

@@erichatzis5986 I pretty much exclusively use my floor 4CM into my amps. Currently a 95 Blues Deluxe and a Hot Rod Deluxe III. Sounds fucking great. I use the full amp model and really enjoy the tones. I've also used it with my JTM 45 clone and A Koch Powertone II. It always works flawlessly.

[@elliottnunez1057]

I didn't get the last update. So I don't have any of the amps, effects etc from the last update. Should I do the last update THEN do 3.5. Or can I just skip the last update and do the 3.5 ? If I do that will I lose out on the amps and effects from the update before 3.5??? Thank you for any info regarding this question. I don't have any Rev Amps for example. If I just do the 3.5. Will I get the Rev amp from the previous update or will I lose out?? Thanks again for any info!!!

[@artytoney2057]

Hello John so of I've already did the update and I still.have the old factory presets , I can retore with button 7 n 8 and it should pull up the 3.5 factory presets I've did a back up but really don't have any factory presets.stuff I need so this should bring new presrts in, right

[@sjsphotog]

its button 7 & 8 only if you have the FULL Helix Floor. For the LT and other models its a DIFFERENT button combo. read the Line 6 instructions from their website on the v3.50 update!!

[@daganhaddad]

9&10

[@Fahrenheit1407]

both work. 7 & 8 only resets presets, but 9 &10 resets presets, global settings and IRs

[@gpcnogueira]

I noticed that HX Stomp and Helix have different Factory Presets. Someone know where can we download missing presets for the stomp!? Thx.

[@brandonwimsatt8733]

It’s usually because the Stomp doesn’t have the power to run them. Even downloading them, it’s unlikely they’ll work.

[@gpcnogueira]

I have downloaded it from Helix Native and the new ones designed for each cab works on the stomp.

[@andrewwilliams9419]

My new factory preset for 01A US Double Nrm is different then yours. I have a Helix LT. Could that be why?

[@enoughnonsenseplease3780]

Should be identical

[@philmiller6655]

If you did a restore from backup after updating and didn’t de-select the FACTORY 1 setlist from your backup, you would have overwritten the new factory presets with the ones that were in your backup.

[@andrewwilliams9419]

@@enoughnonsenseplease3780 Actually I checked a couple other LT's and they are identical to mine. Did you change your amp from a combo to separate head and cab? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp3coX6hr7mbiq8

[@sjsphotog]

for te LT (like me) its not button 7&8 its buttons 9 & 10 (middle 2 on bottom row) since we have Less buttons that full Floor

[@TheRealKirkHammett]

I just purchased the Boss GX100, and the thing that turned me off about all of these modelers now, is the INSANE price for these things. Ridiculous.

[@thomastucker5686]

To my ears, something doesn't sound right with any of this. I can't put my finger on it. There are some cool effects, but it doesn't sound like an amp to me, which sucks because I want to love the Helix. I have a Freyette CLX 100 with a 4x12 cab. It sounds outstanding. I haven't heard a model that comes close.

[@russianvideovlogguy]

No the helix does, it’s digital garbage. Just get a volt interface and use plugins - astronomically more useful, I guess if ur one of those gay live performers you could use a helix but that’s about it

[@johnnathancordy]

Cool guy

[@Ve8g]

Steve Vaï guitarist uses it, as the Cure, Smashing pumpkins and a lot more ...

[@jaycareaga9929]

You must be fun at parties. Stick to playing video games.

[@sboy1955]

So useful

[@yuudee3132]

zoom G5 has the best free artist presets! and chop tone really do some good presets on different brands.