Do Video Games and Gamers Deserve More Respect?

[@stealthybanana8751]

"Video games desensitize people" Me: Reloads a save when I accidentally choose a mean dialog line in a game.

[@Mrdood999]

Hahaha this is very true.

[@nunabisness7191]

Me: Wait that was mean, hold up Reloads save*

[@Mrdood999]

@@nunabisness7191 Yesterday I started playing Ashen and was gonna check if you could kill NPCs like in Dark Souls so I hit this random (Luckily unimportant) NPC and it died instantly. I considered resetting the game and making a new character just because of that. Haha

[@nunabisness7191]

Mrdood999 I accidentally shot a chicken in Skyrim and I got jumped by like every npc in the game. The same thing in Assassin’s Creed Odyssey.🤦‍♂️

[@lsrproductions]

Oh boy, in Persona 4 when I called Ai Ebihara cruel because I had no idea what that meant in Indonesia which caused reverse moon social link.

[@Rina-eg7zw]

"There's no emotion in video games" Man, I don't know but some video games out there have so much heart and soul and artistry in them.

[@seanp8220]

final fantasy x made me cry at points. still does.

[@Blood-Lord]

Yup, in gears of war when Dom died, my friends and I had to take a break after. That shit was rough. We were so emotionally attached to the story it was hard to watch that in-game character die for us.

[@OptikkMagnum]

Thats the dumbest quote ever

[@DetrikXanthos]

Life is Strange had me W E E P I N G

[@leonardovonneumann5848]

I agree. The Witcher 3 for example. But i wouldn't say that video games can reach as deep into your soul as for example a movie or good, old literature from the likes of Goethe, Dostojewski or Shakespeare. If you don't read these kinds of books or no books at all, you probably disagree. And if you read them, but don't understand or don't really try to understand them, you will also probably diagree. I play video games passionately. But i also read all kinds of books passionately. And i gotta say that video games, while played on a screen and not in a (vr) simulation in the future, will NEVER reach the artistic and genius heights of a book like Faust. Thats just the way it is. The fact that more than one person creates a game makes it also harder to enjoy i feel like. Sadly, you can't know who wrote this side quest or this random encounter. Although thats a minor point.

[@joesmoe6947]

I’ve played video games my whole life. Some of the most graphic and gore filled games ever made. I can tell you that if I ever saw someone in real life get their head blown off or their body ripped in two. I sure as hell wouldn’t stand there thinking, “Oh that didn’t bother me at all. I saw that in a video game once.” I would be mortified and probably carry that with me the rest of my life. If anything has desensitized me to violence at all. It would be seeing actual footage of murders/war in the news. Not a fictional cartoon video game.

[@sarahmedouni8844]

i was thinking about something similar, i've played games my whole life too but once i had a real life traumatizing experience it fucking stayed with me, it was no game

[@michaelthem3]

Exactly. The stigma is strong against videogames, and they're nothing more than another form of human expression through interactive art.

[@THIZZAVELI]

Man i've played all the mortal kombats, killer instincts, pit fighter, doom, duke nukem, turok the dinosaur hunter, red faction, time killers, night trap, splatter house, etc etc. I saw a kid at school get his finger caught in the door. That fucked me up for life.

[@tommyz1082]

Well said and exactly right.

[@amirpalamar7133]

Joe Smoe in 8th grade a couple fucked up friends of mine at the time sent me a video of a homeless man being murdered with a hammer. I’ve played violent games since I was 4, and that shit still bothers me from time to time

[@ketamineaddict5659]

Joe should get a real gamer on the podcast and discuss everything great and horrible about the industry I think it would be interesting

[@singhatar0912]

He brought on the counter strike pro nothing

[@Jackson-ev5hp]

Someone needs to address the corporate greed on video games

[@ItsKunzy]

Dr.Disrepect

[@nathenbosher1067]

N0thing was on a while a go

[@baileylong4886]

Mabie a streamer. Summit1G comes to mind for me. Very level headed and intelligent spoken guy who has the knowledge on not only the video game industry but also platforms like twitch. Just an idea

[@SigmarAO]

Joe Rogan: "There's no emotion in this thing" Me: "yeah well, I cried like a bitch at Ghost's and Soap's deaths"

[@lapsusdemon6353]

Josh Aziz seriously. Or Detroit become human definitely conveyed emotion

[@Ultraempoleon]

Burial at Sea Finale had me bawling

[@crowcrow1465]

this should be number 1 comment

[@100GTAGUY]

Shit man ace combat five was heartbreaking when they killed off one of the main NPCs named Chopper who was one hell of a fun and likeable character like two missions before the end of the game. Regardless I definitely avenged the fuck out of that NPC as best as I could in a virtual non eye to eye dog fight lmao

[@gangganguwu6219]

Or all of reach :(

[@ugh2748]

As long as no kid recreates "no russian" it's all good

[@pmc614]

"Time to make Makarov look a fucking joke"

[@nukewithhonor]

PMC 😂

[@terrancesylvas9755]

too late 😂

[@terme-nator_]

😂

[@wreckinkd3611]

This guy gets it

[@ArseniyShved]

"there is no emotion in this thing", yeah, 'The last of Us' is devoid of all emotions

[@Tar-Numendil]

Also Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag. I cried so hard at the end of that game.

[@ArseniyShved]

​@@Tar-Numendil or how about Fallout 76? Impossible to spend a minute in that game without crying!

[@biddrickbidmen4774]

Final Fantasy VII, Uncharted 2, God of War (4), and Shadow of the Colossus are great example of games with emotions also.

[@Brueske11]

If that Henry and Sam cutscene didn’t evoke some kind of emotion out of you then you aren’t human

[@chrish4439]

Ya that was the single stupidest thing I have ever heard Joe said. He basically just said anything created through technology is inherently completely void of art. It's "cold". What the actual fuck? Lol Also to add to the thread, a friend and I straight up shed a tear together when dom died in gears of war. No emotion my ass.

[@Tijuanabill]

Strange times we live in, when the person sitting like a bump on a log, catatonic, watching TV for 4 hours a day is considered the standard, but gamers doing something interactive and using their minds is "unhealthy".

[@gwynbleiddzireael4391]

exactly

[@Tijuanabill]

@Herblin Smerblin What is your data source for that, boomer? This isn't 1980. It's more than teenagers playing games now. There are plenty of adults playing games.

[@GenericHandle01]

I think the assumption when people play video games is that they "don't have a job/don't contribute to society" and that people "only watch TV at the end of a long hard day at work". We know this dynamic is fallacious but it will take time for the Group Think to catch up.

[@Andrew-km5rr]

Herblin Smerblin your talking to kids without jobs. Everyone had huge amounts of time when they were around that age. When u get older your free time decreases drastically. 4 hours a day is a lot for an adult. 4 hours a day is nothing for kids however

[@UnknownEntity334]

Because watching tv is relaxing you dont need to constantly respond. Research in 2019 indicated that stress makes cancer metastasize. Youre worth more than that game

[@Kaunte]

"There's no emotion to digital things." Yeah, like those damn Pixar films. So emotionless.

[@rehanmemon3969]

Yeah, Waltz with Bashir is practiacally amateur hour. No emotion, no depth. the movie "Up", pfffft, please.

[@brytonwallis4817]

I think its advancement has made it less alien in look, but something else about the vision maybe alien when they see it.

[@crankymcgee]

pretty much ngl

[@hikid6990]

​@@rehanmemon3969 even though it's a joke, i felt bad for my boy up being talked like that

[@rehanmemon3969]

@@hikid6990 ok.

[@BiggieTeas]

Joe isn’t smart enough to realize that this was the same shit his parents said about music. And so the pattern continues...

[@raphaelsmarketingllc]

idk man I’m pretty sure Joes not old enough to have been around for the start of music....

[@abegohr2576]

The Intellectual Dopes Podcast and not even old enough that his parents saw the beginning of recorded music

[@zendo4403]

Idk Brian seemed to be the one not getting it, Joe just doesn’t play video games, but yes in the matter of “merit” in video games/gamers neither one of them have a leg to stand on. I’d like to hear what Jamie has to say about this topic

[@nochilljay6369]

And the same way our generation will probably talk about whatever the next generation has

[@jakel.1724]

The Intellectual Dopes Podcast his comparison was historically ideas repeat themselves. Even without correlation

[@jordandavidschreiber]

“Video games can hurt social maturity” Meanwhile grown people are screaming and throwing tantrums when their sports team doesn’t win every week 🙄

[@Itsmarsyt]

🤯

[@jimathy4353]

Week*

[@aidanstewart909]

Sports are much more different than video games brother

[@Itsmarsyt]

@@aidanstewart909 not when you're watching them

[@templariclegion2826]

That's a really good rebuttal, but... It's also a game. Maybe the bigger question is: Do games in general cause social immaturity? Because watching sports can be just as engaging and addicting as a video game. It all depends on the person.

[@roblonsote]

Talking about games being addictive... what about the internet, what about youtube, what about TV, what about Netflix, what about social media, pick your poison.

[@seth5143]

Think I'd pick one that doesn't cost an arm & a leg the way video games do. So pretty much any of the examples you gave haha

[@somedudeinatunnel3102]

I totally see your point. But on the flip side, nobody is required to indulge in any of those activities, although that's more wishful thinking than anything..

[@Drew-v2f]

If anyone get this message today and everything will half to be taken into account and be controlled. Social Media and video games go like PB&J while streaming services are not as addictive. What we all half to do is control how much video games, Social Media, TV, and shopping. It does get out of hand but it will be controlled. It is like the episode of Seinfeld where Elaine eats cake everyday.

[@WhySoSeriousGM]

Joe Rogan’s podcast is addictive and they talk about sensitive things that could desensitize me just like “video games could”

[@Umbojug]

@@seth5143 tv is one of the most expensive mediums bro. Cable costs a fortune to start and cancell. Netflix is way more expensive than just a game on steam, and it’s a subscription.

[@mh8894]

Obviously no offense to any veterans, but it seems like a veteran with ptsd isn’t a reliable source for determining the effects violent video games have on non-veteran, non-ptsd suffering civilians. Seems like someone with ptsd from war would be predisposed to associating video games with the reality they experienced when that might not actually be the case for a vast majority of people.

[@jessespence696]

I thought Joe was pointing out how someone who killed someone with a rock felt about it as a reference point for how violent videogames don’t effect people. If someone was to be affected it would be someone with experience in that feild. We get lots of people saying that violent videogames don’t affect them in their day to day lives already and the news spins it like someone who is deeply flawed will take videogames as reality. When that is obvious not the case.

[@thomasholler8149]

Seriously. He's the last person I'd listen to on the topic. That's like asking a person with arachnophobia which tarantula would make the best pet.

[@JayM1989]

Not to mention one who's story is rumored to be embellished with some parts possible completely made up for promotional purposes.

[@hchesher522]

I think someone who has killed someone would have a better understanding on what desensitizes you.

[@Jvnebvg]

I’m a veteran with ptsd and I agree i play videos games and have been since a child shooters and everything and I wasn’t desensitized to death.

[@b.7811]

Watching movies and media is lazier than physically playing and mentally reacting to video games. Tbh.

[@GatLaFlare]

Maybe more "lazy" but depending on what you watch, you could learn much more from media.

[@GabrielWarlock]

@@GatLaFlare That depends on the media, but yeah... I guess you're right

[@mishmash3968]

B. They are just old and slow now. Dinosaur thinking.

[@tusharbehera8956]

I don't think they are comparing it to movies Because video games are sports they have already acknowledged that but again why would any other sports would be respectful and not video games that's the question here.

[@No_Enemies_Kale]

@@GatLaFlare I've learned more from video games as well as movie than most media out there. It all depends on the content and context.

[@gleam6370]

Game developers certainly deserve more respect and recognition

[@LidanLive]

i think they have too much of that tbh

[@Skateandcreate9]

Maria Petrov if only they weren’t inexorably linked to the game PUBLISHERS....

[@ifstatementifstatement2704]

Maria Petrov I’m a programmer for business systems and a hobby game programmer since 1997 and I can tell you it is so bloody hard to program a video game. In my books game programmers are all geniuses and damn hard workers, and have more patience than saints.

[@qntcats5974]

@@ifstatementifstatement2704 take that a step further with all these small dev teams utilizing open source low cost engines, writing their own code(including knowledge of physics), creating their own art, creating their own sites, doing self promotion etc. Game design, especially with how complex they are now able to get, really requires people to have an EXPANSIVE knowledge of things outside just programming(and that's already difficult enough). In a way I like how the big AAA publishers are pushing gamers away from their products through sheer greed. That behavior is pushing many people to smaller studios. That coupled with accessibility to design tools have really snowballed the indie era of games.

[@MJR_heyfunny]

Correction most independent Developers deserve more credit the ones that are okay with pay-to-win microtransactions and loot boxes deserve less

[@ed1726]

Reminds me of a time I was kid playing action force figures with a friend. His mother's current boyfriend asked when we were going to grow out of those silly toys. I didn't say anything but the idea of being judged by a drug addicted, unemployed petty criminal and probably child abuser made me think maybe playing with toys isn't such a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.

[@AndreiYoLo]

wow, good damn poin! :)

[@goncalobaia1574]

Theeere we go, thing is he might even have had a point but people before saying shit about whatever should make sure they deserve to be heard

[@ed1726]

@Isaac Morrell Well said.

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

🤣🤣😂😂😂😹😹😂😂 Bruuuuh truuuueee

[@stillwatercamargo9606]

@@goncalobaia1574 even a broken clock gets the hours right twice a day

[@lucasbentley3589]

“Video games desensitize people” In the Witcher 3 I was taking contracts off a notice board and I accidentally took one that wasn’t a contract it was just a villager asking to borrow a shovel. Then I was so sad because now that villager will never get his shovel :(

[@MrBuggy865]

lol Underrated comment tbh xD

[@XMorbidReignX]

@Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus bruh. That was among the hardest choices I've ever faced. That choice specifically, is second only to the dialogue choices needed to ensure Ciri lives then becomes a Witcher.

[@Blackbuck9832]

What a crybaby.

[@cocolynch8287]

@@Blackbuck9832 Ok BoOmEr

[@HydraTower]

I'm so used to picking up Witcher Contracts, I accidentally applied for a job and joined the work force.

[@vlogactionTV]

I really don’t understand how people fail to see that when you play a video game, your doing more than when you just sit down and watch something, you are actually interacting with it.

[@kylez9094]

Roomie's gf will give me shit and turn around and mainline a Netflix series is one go

[@alkoholic3216]

Exactly, sometimes I'm even too lazy to play video games.

[@jaripruim]

Wonder if VR will one Day get perseived differently since you actually have to physically move around to play the game. There's already a bunch of really difficult skillful vr games out there like HyperDash and EchoVR

[@SolidusYT]

exactly hows it different from watching a tv show?

[@jaripruim]

@@SolidusYT you interact with whats going on. If you don't input anything then nothing will happen, therefore it's more active for the brain then watching tv

[@faded039]

"What's video games gonna do to your social life?" Me: *plays with 74 people in minecraft making a self sustainable city while having so much fun*

[@SH-ry2xi]

That’s not considered a social life buddy

[@faded039]

@@SH-ry2xi Even though I'm socializing through my friends in video games?

[@ermwhatdaheck]

@@SH-ry2xi it literally is though

[@GruntDestroyarChannel]

Ray Snider not in real life though. Won’t get you a girlfriend, or is much less likely to

[@SH-ry2xi]

FADED '03 yes, you’re not developing real life social skills. I play games and it’s nice to talk to people and keep up and have great times with my friends, but it’s no replacement for real life interaction. Also 98% of those online friends are transient and will forget about you since you are also some rando online.

[@Youcantseetheninja]

I have a bachelor's degree, a personal training certification, I work two jobs, and take care of a 1 1/2 year old dog. If I want to play Fortnite to relax, I will play Fortnite to relax.

[@martojacinto107]

@sandir toukaev ok Sandir

[@Coltizar]

“It’s just a game,” Yeah, so is football, basketball, soccer... games aren’t worthless. They help shape society. Video games are no different. You can argue about all the bad they do, but don’t dismiss all the good they’ve done as well.

[@yopglomusic8872]

1,000 subscribers with no videos ? Dude, exactly! So good to hear this, that's a rare wisdom, my friend.

[@tGxChief1]

@@IllyrianStrength VR will take over 100% :)

[@ДжонниГенриУорд]

It's not soccer it's football

[@Hyperdonic2]

@@IllyrianStrength The day will come when I can get exercise from killing monsters in an JRPG.

[@entova]

Auch ein Open Mind i thought vr fell off pretty hard. Ill hear about it like once every 3 months then no one ever talks about it

[@thetaz31]

Games are games, entertainment is addictive. When sports teams lose, people that don't even play the game riot... *Cough* Vancouver *cough.

[@greengamerguy623]

Sport fans are the dumbest most hypocritical people around.

[@Vislow]

@Ghostly One Yeah no, not really

[@gurnoorsekhon6402]

@Ghostly One actually feminists are even worse than Trump supporters

[@Meticulist]

I was there. Almost got my ass beat trying to stop some idiots who werent even fans from lighting a van on fire. most of the rioters were there specifically to riot, they werent canucks fans and most of them werent even from vancouver.

[@dpounder101]

@@gurnoorsekhon6402 No, feminists actually have a point. Trump is just a lying piece of shit thats ome idiots actually believe is workign for them even though hes a fucking billionaire businessman.

[@pyranna2003]

"There's no emotion in video games, it's cold, it's just ones and zeros" There's no emotion in a book either, it's just ink and paper. Not all video games are art the same way not all TV shows are art, FIFA for example is just a game imo. But video games are an art form and should be given as much respect as TV and Movies.

[@G31M1]

This painting has no emotion, it’s just paint on fabric

[@Chino_trxs8798]

Specially Cod games

[@Rick.Dicker]

Fr playing red dead 2 is like watching a interactive movie watching the life of some cowboy

[@vlogsbyalejandro]

@Duke Silver probably better than some tv shows, but I don't think they can come close to most movies.

[@justacameraman4900]

@Duke Silver glad im not the only one who just watches gameplay and cut scenes instead of actual movies

[@savagezeno1950]

I’d rather have my kid escape from reality thru video games instead of drug and alcohol

[@squidlytv]

Not to mention, video games have taught me themes and morals just as stories and legends would. We should promote good cultural storytelling.

[@RandomVidz690]

I'd rather my kid not have to escape reality

[@Krispyyy]

I’d rather have my kid escape from reality thru DMT

[@unusuallyuninspired]

@Kek a lot of games don’t even let you escape reality. The best games just present reality to you in a way that can keep your attention and teach you lessons.

[@unusuallyuninspired]

@Time & Future there are a lot of careers, of which, correspond with gaming. And to be fair, they can pay a hell of a lot more than a lot of minimum wage jobs someone could get. If your lucky enough and talented enough at what you’re doing in the field then you can get paid more than a lot of prevailing wages. The issue is that kids look at gaming and say “I wanna be a gamer” and then never do anything with that. A lot of them don’t have the drive to follow through with it and that’s what hurts them in the end.

[@allmyself666]

It sounds like their entire understanding of video games is from competitive games rather then the full genre list, like RPGs and artistic games like Shadow of the Colossus and Journey.

[@jayvolpe3451]

We need this liked more so we can touch on the fact that videogames is vast and deep. Videogames genres is more than competitive or violent.

[@jacksonperkins7824]

When he said chess, I was like there is a whole genre called "strategy"

[@regardlesslamron2096]

NERD!!!

[@GrandEnchilada]

It's insane how they mention red dead redemption 2 but skip over how the game is in no way competitive and just exists to build a beautiful and twisted vision and world and tell a massive amazing story.

[@joseanjos2242]

and even the competitive games they got wrong lmao don't blame them tho

[@Beegpapijimbo]

Coulda just titled this "Two dudes dig a hole for 11 minutes"

[@hyperdunkzhd22]

About something they have no understanding of

[@ninelivesvxbes]

hyperdunkzhd22 yuh I love joe rogan but this ones off

[@xdavier31]

@@ninelivesvxbes Bro, this one and the superhero video.

[@donavoncummings3593]

_BlueBlazing_ superhero video?

[@GruntDestroyarChannel]

How are they wrong

[@CheckmyNikes94]

I love joe Rogan but this is an extreme “ok boomer” moment

[@antwant5674]

Totally agree. Im really interested in what he has to say 99% of the time, but whenever he gets started on games I just roll my eyes into the back of my head

[@craigmcgougan]

@@antwant5674 thats cause that 1% speaks truth to you and you dont like it.

[@antwant5674]

@@craigmcgougan not really. I have really enjoyed playing games since I was a kid but i make it a point not to let it get in the way of school, social life etc... My problem with Joe when he talks about games is that he tends to generalize games as being addictive to everyone (most studies show about 1-5% of the 2 billion people who play games actually have an unhealthy relationship/addiction to gaming) and a waste of time

[@scrubbdaddy]

Anthony Bonilla he started an argument and wasnt even ready to finish it lol

[@denysnov6250]

Anthony Bonilla you realize he’s talking about the gamers who spend 4+ hours a day locked in their room, I’m 18 and I’ve been like that growing up and I 100% agree with him, I wish I never got into games

[@bob_reese]

I disagree with most of what they said about gamers. I think it’s just a generational thing. The only way to be “successful” back then with video games was to be the creator of the video games. Now days you don’t even have to be good at video games to be successful and make a good living. People can make millions sucking at a game and making funny videos about it.

[@streampunkent]

OMW

[@Spider-Monkey]

Literally!!!

[@AllinAllisAllweAllare]

Ive played games since i was 4. I am 38 now. Im not desensitized at all. I have huge empathy. Addiction on the other hand... don't want to talk about it

[@Stevo-jp7on]

David -01 what acts of violence have you committed to realise you are desensitised?

[@ubuu7]

My guess is that for most people, violent video games act as a release valve for violent impulses rather than some kind of magnifier. This baby yoda guy was probably just so filled up with pent up rage and indifference from the start, the video games are probably what is containing his fel intentions.

[@ubuu7]

@BabyYoda -With infinite subs Now you toss in a potential causal link from growing up in a violent country, before the implication was that your indifference and lack of sensitivity to violence might be linked to video games. Incomplete information given suggested a much higher possibility of the games being the cause vs your environment.

[@kirkcrawford5091]

Addiction to gaming is definetly a legit thing. I’ve gone through couple times in my life where that is all I did with my free time and let’s face its an unhealthy thing physically and mentally. You are forgoing physical activity along with social interaction to immerse yourself in this fantasyland of whatever game or games your into. They are definetly addicting and you have to moderate yourself somewhat and make sure you are doing REAL things in the world and not letting your life revolve around them

[@natthansenteni]

@@kirkcrawford5091 I can attest to that as well, addiction to video game is a real thing and can become a serious issue. One of my good friend started a foundation in Montreal called the Virtual Guardian, who deals with cyber-bullying, but also working with detox centers and schools to help prevention of cyber addiction among teenagers. I will always advocate that video game can be an extremely beneficial things if used in moderation, and in the case of teenagers, surrounded by adults who understand the risk and help them reap the benefits of it and avoid the bad habits and behavior that comes with it, but if left unchecked or overindulged, it can become more detrimental than beneficial for sure.

[@BigGrizzly96]

Video games desensitizes you. Me: shoots a horse in red dead by an accident and feels guilty

[@dollarindimes]

i feel that hard

[@howaboutthis9233]

Or accidentally hits chicken in game

[@goncalobaia1574]

As a grown person you do! I myself if I choose a bittersweet 3 second dislogue choice in the Witcher 3 towards a woman, I have to reload and choose the nice one But that's us, grown ups But I have a 9 year old brother, I'm well aware of how it would affect him to play the same things, and that's the danger of it, if a kid does the same things we do he/she won't feel our regret, because our regret is a product of our personal already educated self For a kid, they won't feel that regret, and if they grow up with that, they won't feel that regret we feel when at our age That's what desensitization is, basically getting used to a certain notion without feeling it

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

Faaaaacts

[@dullcrow2281]

I accidentally shot a dog and cried cause it died lol

[@syn2838]

This is the most *"ok boomer"* JRE I've ever seen

[@tescobag5704]

I agree but we need to remember that this is an outsider looking inside without actual experience from the inside. Joe Rogan needs to pick up red dead 2 and beat it then tell us what he thinks

[@theexistentialnihilist2070]

I'd like to see hin play Nier Automata.

[@Stungunwol]

@@theexistentialnihilist2070 This. So much this. And Hear his reaction of "wait, there's MORE?" Two or three times.

[@RealityBoat]

I thought he was pretty unbias and intouch 🤷

[@syn2838]

@@RealityBoat ok boomer lmao

[@ryanl9224]

It's funny when games have oscar level story telling at times yet are still stigmatized whereas shows and movies are not. I played Hellblade a week ago and it was the most I've been captivated by a story since Better Call Saul season 5 ended, and it was made by an Indie Studio, not some "corporate" organization as Joe put it. I can't believe with the PS5 and XSX coming out, which are pushing the boundaries of technology, we're still not taking gaming and the industry seriously. smh

[@introduction1266]

The only people that aren't taking gaming seriously are the people who know nothing about games and boomers. Whether they like it or not gaming gets more popular every year.

[@candice2179]

Its not just about addiction. Gaming is literally against the very design of humans. Humans are meant to be constantly active and engage in physical activities or fun team sports with friends but gaming is the exact opposite. It makes you sit in one place for hours and infront of a LED screen. Our inactivity is the no.1 reason for the rise in chronic diseases nowadays including cancer and gaming just speeds up this process. Unless you game like 2-3hrs a week casually, gaming is usually bad for you in every way, especially your body eyes and your mind. Your eyes are also constantly being strained and it’s horrible for them.

[@dhillon7167]

The thing is games like hellblade are not the face of gaming industry , its kind of sad people group up all those amazing indie works and paint them with the picture of a kid playing call of duty, when people say video games they think , fortnite and fifa , which majority of the people consume

[@introduction1266]

@@dhillon7167 facts. It's crazy but the majority of kids play fornite and casuals play call of duty. Smh I think as years go on...games like god of war will get more and more popular. Even with that boomers don't get games have as much diversity as movies.

[@arkhamknight6371]

I'm going on 40 n I still play video games every night,after work n tucking my daughter in bed.My wife plays with me sometimes,she loves it

[@troyweatherford2428]

Desensitization towards violence doesn't make a person more likely to commit violence.

[@kamifuujin]

@Natty Fatty Powerlifting pretty much lol

[@JonnyUnderrated]

@Ashitaka it really has nothing to do with real guns and real combat. There are a billion differences between REAL shooting guns and getting shot at to playing a game (violent or not) on your couch or chair. Soldiers use video games to display tactics (real world situations) and simulate a combat situation. They still do real world drills with live ammunition all the time and feel the reality of it. its used as a small part in training. Also a lot of the tech is digital and they need to learn how to use that kind of thing . it has nothing to do with real life violence.

[@tumultuousforce6204]

Reduces empathy and takes them a step closer to being a piece of shit

[@richardhannay7105]

Exactly, because the reason I don't want to kill anyone is not because the splatter will be shocking. I won't kill because it is morally abhorrent, and I feel no such urge. If you are not a phycho, you won't do such things because of games

[@bumgilligan]

@Ashitaka a huge majority of soldiers go their entire careers without killing anyone.

[@joshuad748]

Play Witcher 3 and tell me it’s not art. Give games credit. I’m a psychologist and if you actually do your research you’ll quickly find that the APA does not blame video games on any causes of violence.

[@austinclay2066]

joshua D Witcher 3 is one of the best games ever created. Definitely art. It’s like playing through a season of game of thrones

[@1upthegreat]

I love you, best comment...Witcher 3 = Adult Zelda, absolute masterpiece

[@RiggidyDiggidyRaw]

Skyrim > witcher

[@CChissel]

@Mr. Blond Blasphemy, off to the gallows with you!

[@Dredgen-Yor]

@th3 Envyp 😂😂 ikr ?

[@natereater]

"Whereas Chess is noble." Starcraft 2 would like to introduce itself. Imagine Chess but with imperfect vision, no breaks for turns, up to 200 units being controlled at once, economy management, fighting mechanics, 3 different matchups per race (which are basically entirely different games), and you have to manage a camera. Whenever people talk about video games as lacking the complexity of something like chess I find it absurd.

[@luckie4780]

Stop your scaring them. Their brains arnt big enough to handle that many things going on at once. They cant comprehend that all they see is you moving a mouse and touching a keyboard to them your doing nothing even though if you gave them the controls that cant do a damn thing

[@Stungunwol]

Let me introduce you to Fire Emblem, a highly strategic wargame with permanent death stakes, risk management, set in a long and drawn out campaign where you have to be aware of numerous things at once and think several steps ahead. Or how about 4X strategy games that even involve diplomacy and intensive resource and economy management? News flash: first person shooter games are only one genre in a vast landscape. There are strategy games. Open world adventures. Puzzles. Platformers. Role playing games. Racing games. Simulators. God games. City building. Visual novels, which are not far removed from the idea of a choose your own adventure but with less limitations. It's so irritating seeing people compare a vast array of other media with a tiny sliver of video games as if call of duty was the only game franchise that ever existed. Someone make these people play Undertale, Breath of the Wild, The Sims, Age of Empires, PC Building Simulator, Hollow Knight, any Fire Emblem game, and any Final Fantasy game. Then watch their heads explode.

[@luckie4780]

@@Stungunwol the sad thing is, they wouldn't give any of those games the time of day. They simply dont care and dont want to educate themselves. Remember they are "right" about everything and dont need to see the other side of the argument

[@TheRedHaze3]

@@luckie4780 Come on. Bryan literally admits at the end that his bias is because he's old. He didn't have video games when he was young and he doesn't understand them.

[@kj-ng9fo]

There are games thousands of times more complex than chess in recent years

[@Mike-fl3cd]

If this isn't stereotyping I don't know what is. He's embarrassingly out of touch.

[@fruitpastel3643]

10:17 maybe if you watched the podcast you’d know they admit they don’t know anything about

[@2koP7]

@@fruitpastel3643 well maybe they shouldnt about shit they have no clue about?

[@fruitpastel3643]

@@2koP7 it’s his podcast😂 he can talk about whatever he wants

[@2koP7]

@@fruitpastel3643 Well then😂 I guess he’s making a fool out of himself on his own podcast smh

[@RJtv9321]

@@2koP7 ❄️❄️❄️

[@MaxCovington543]

"Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?" We don't get ANY respect, so yeah, it would be nice

[@alexcolquhoun9201]

Just need to see the lack of respect pro gamers get by the media there is 0 respect

[@Sumatchi]

Kojima, Sakurai, Good devlopers. Blizzard when it was good, EA is hated

[@MaxCovington543]

@@Sumatchi They get respect within the community for sure, but I meant as in the general public and anyone outside of gaming.

[@Sumatchi]

@@MaxCovington543 Yeah I agree there. Gaming isn't recognized by the majority of people as an art

[@xSayPleasex]

@@Sumatchi It is if you show them the right games...I still remember even decades ago when I was playing SotN (castlevania on PS1) and my mom heard the music, she was like "Where is that coming from, is it your game?? Wow that's really good" and proceeded to watch me play.

[@Ocean5ix]

They desensitize people, don't have emotion and all. But what really is beautiful, emotional and actual art is paying to watch 2 guys punch each other until one is unconscious and rave about how awesome the guy that won look covered in blood. It's a real display of sensibility...

[@danile5285]

this is so true, if anything, playing the "No Russian" mission is more sensible

[@yaboymeloy6970]

DANI LØE I love both video games and mma but MMA is way less desensitized compared too Particpating in a shooting

[@Ocean5ix]

@@yaboymeloy6970 So you're saying that shooting people that doesn't look like people, doesn't act or react like people, through your TV holding a controller (that doesn't resemble a gun) is worse than physically being somewhere, punching and kicking another guy in the face until he's knocked out for money, glory and pride? Look, I'm not against MMA, I think that if you sign a paper saying that you're willing to do it, by all means, do it. But when you try to picture another media as desensitized when you lived and still live a life for the sport of fighting, it's a bit hypocritical. Yea, video games create a few dumb kids that, with easy access to guns, end up doing something horrible but they're very few compared to the insane amount of bullies and guys that think they "own the place" because they're martial artists and fighters. Joe has this romantic view that the majority of MMA fighters and aspiring fighters actually control themselves through willpower and discipline but in reality a lot of them are or become violent people because of the mentality needed to compete in the sport. You gotta sacrifice something to be able to beat the shit out of another guy you _don't_ hate, just because he's the next opponent in line.

[@swampythang7182]

Victor Vasconcellos, same thing with football. Half of the pro football players are abusive or have gone to jail for assault. That’s the mentality you need for sports like football and MMA. No emotions. You just try to incapacitate your opponent before they do it to you. Reminds me a lot of the mentality of a soldier. Of course, this is without mentioning that not every video game is about shooting people and most games that are about shooting people are not romanticizing the violence.

[@dawsonnagel1606]

I literally played no Russian when I was a child and had the smarts to realize it’s a game, and that shooting dozens of people, is in fact, a terrible thing to do. But I had to rationalize it because back in the day that mission sort of made me uneasy

[@CP.9.]

A lot of the arguments against games are just flat out false or exaggerated and could just as easily be said about other things like films.

[@Sorenthaz]

A lot of it comes down to older generations not understanding new art/entertainment forms.

[@jimgarra7024]

You can't compare the 2. Movies you don't watch hours on end day after day involved personally.

[@treestone95]

@@jimgarra7024 yeah but if your outside life is so shit thats al you want to do why stop them.

[@johnychrist2559]

@@jimgarra7024 except if you watch more than one movie? Wtf even is your point, its dumb

[@joemamajoastar8708]

@@jimgarra7024 until you watch movies hours on ends....

[@johnh3673]

"you can isolate and play all day" Well that aged well

[@Dman1812]

Movies? Violent movies? Or are video games an easy scape goat?

[@zacmarvel6369]

I'm not saying I agree with this but the main argument with video games exposing people to violence more so than movies or anything else is the fact that your controlling that character (which people correlate to themselves) and make the decision to kill rather than just watching a fictional character portray someone killing somebody. Does that make sense?

[@RIUUI007]

@@juahnhatwell "reading movies" lmao

[@_--INFiNiTE_C0NSCi0US--_]

@@zacmarvel6369 --- Honestly, i feel like it's easier to imagine being a character in a movie because you can just sit there like a zombie while your mind gets lost in the plot (it controls your mind). With video games, the controller itself keeps you more in tune with reality & involves physical movement (you control it). I've noticed there's mass killers who were inspired by movie characters, but never noticed any of them being inspired by a specific video game character. Other than that, i believe fake violence doesn't effect people unless they are already mentally unwell.

[@TheRealGeorgeGibson]

It’s the individual.

[@Acaidia]

@@RIUUI007 reading COMMA movies

[@TheChilipepper77]

Old people who don’t play games need to stop talking about games

[@ryanoverton6624]

"All the parents that have never tried meth should stop talking to their kids about how bad it is" Not saying video games are as addicting as meth, or the consequences are as severe. But that is essentially the argument you're making.

[@TheChilipepper77]

Ryan Overton except it is scientifically proven that meth is extremely harmful

[@ryanoverton6624]

This video had me go back to do my own research, and apparently, the World Health Org now recognizes "gaming disorder" as a condition. Though with other mitigating factors, generally an addicted person latches onto games as an escape from other issues in life, in the same way most other addictions start.

[@speedbreno]

@@ryanoverton6624 But the argument is that video games desensitize people and not about addiction. You can get addicted to anything that give you pleasure on entertanment if you think about it.

[@astrangeviking1742]

@@TheChilipepper77 is it tho? Is it really?

[@Vikingr_]

Parents are just as addicted to technology as their kids are. I go down stairs, my parents are home from work and they watch tv, they’re on their phones, they’re on Facebook they use internet, they use satellite navigation on their cars and then they have the urgency to tell a kid to turn their game off and do something productive??!

[@Vikingr_]

Jake Lee 100% agree, it’s not right people to say video games are unhealthy anymore, because people are making a living just from playing them, they play them everyday with no side-effects.

[@axa3687]

"They're home from work." Then you should do something more productive until you can earn money by yourself. The younger you are the more valuable your time is, because every second is investment of the future.

[@YZFR1is]

@@axa3687 they are entitled brats, can't fix them

[@timboslice8559]

But that’s the thing they were at work all day before they watched tv lol

[@reecesault-burke1089]

Guess what that's life they gave life too you, they have the right to do that they are GROWN... Respect your parents you spoiled brat

[@vukjovanovicofficial]

I've been playing brutal games my entire life, watched an Isis video of some killings, still haunts me to this day. Seeing people blown up in a video game and it actually happening in reality are 2 different things and in no way am i standing there and saying "Yeah, i saw it in a game"! To Joe and Bryan, please stop talking about stuff you know very little about.

[@rickymorcus8962]

You must have had ear plugs in

[@caesar7786]

@@rickymorcus8962 huh?

[@rickymorcus8962]

@@caesar7786 his response clearly shows he wasn’t listening to what they were actually talking about. They are not talking about the everyday person. They are specifically talking about the effects on mentally unstable people.

[@caesar7786]

@@rickymorcus8962 K.

[@nirjhar4803]

Me when I dont have ears:

[@EJ-wr8bl]

Moral of the story: Money validates your interests.

[@Sneak248]

CrasH

[@EJ-wr8bl]

@@Sneak248 Underrated album

[@Laocoon283]

CREAM

[@Johansen1000]

Yes, reading books, playing games or watching Joe Rogan on KZbin is detrimental & wasting giant chunks of people's lives.

[@generationfallout5189]

But everything we do in life is pointless. Time forgets us all the same. Plus humanity doesn't have a future. Not the way things are going. We won't survive the dead world we are creating. Killing the planet we are standing on just for a stupid man made game of monopoly.

[@xReboundRantz]

@@generationfallout5189 you had me at the beginning.

[@smvkey]

It's all about moderation, like with anything in life really. I'm sure back in the day there were book addicts who would constantly read but it's now just transferred over to new age stimuli & books are now seen as healthy for your brain, which they are as is playing games or watching joe rogen but it all just comes back to moderation

[@KevinBhoy94]

@@generationfallout5189 finally someone with the same mindset as me 🤝

[@FilterChain]

@@generationfallout5189 hahaha you drink to much kool aid , we will be fine

[@sarabus9517]

"video games desensitize you" Me screaming at Darth Vader to get his filthy hands off BD-1.

[@pmc614]

Niggas in 2009 after seeing Gen. Shepherd kill Ghost and Roach: *crying and rage*

[@monkeybuizznes1]

PMC shepherd and Palpatine will forever be on my shit list

[@DannyHsn]

BD-1 is a trash droid

[@lxrdvader2021]

@@coldbeee yo I aint all that bad once u get to know me

[@elliotback2]

I wish these people knew more about socializing in video games man, they really are missing the entire point of why we play them, to have fun with our friends, not to massacre people. Video games are art

[@rickymorcus8962]

Ear plugs?

[@itbcj7824]

Being actually good at fps games takes more skill reaction and hand eye coordination than people realise

[@kingmalik09]

Not to mention having to adjust to the specs of different weapons. Take Apex for example. Anyone who can get a kill with the Havoc farther than 20m is a god 😂

[@itbcj7824]

@@kingmalik09 dam right sir dam right

[@beeshi5822]

Its not even just that. Joe made references to chess and in many situations, winning an FPS battle is about making the right moves to get the best of the enemy. Its a mix of reaction times (hand, eye, and ear), instincts, and tactics. Know where the enemy is, find the weakness, exploit it.

[@natereater]

Not to mention the physical skill behind games like rocket league.

[@they_call_me_don9899]

itbcj you gotta be in tune with yourself get shot in the back while farming in division and try to turn around and beam someone in the head without being all anxious and missing shots lol

[@therealjimshady.]

Joe would lose his mind if someone that didn't know shit about mma started talking about mma like they know what they are talking about.... Stephen A Smith...

[@paragon1782]

Too be fair joe was probably playing video games while you were peeing the bed still lol

[@th0ma572]

Paragon of Growth if he was playing video games then than they were probably arcade games which are not even in the same realm of complicated

[@paragon1782]

@@th0ma572 nah he said he was addicted to the first doom and spent hella time and money playing online

[@th0ma572]

Paragon of Growth okay so two things. If the person was born who made the comment was born before 2004 then games like that are considered arcade games. Games xbox360 and ps3 and above are where games started becoming complicated which is what era we are in where gaming now is a lot more then just moving your joystick and press two buttons. And playing one game in this era of gaming does not mean you understand gaming let alone competitive gaming. That’s like taking a months worth of mma classes and think you know the ins and outs of the sport

[@doghous3]

@@th0ma572 I wonder what you mean by complicated? The mass appeal of modern consoles (or should I say to appeal to a mass audience) have, if anything, 'dumbed' games down somewhat. A generalised statement of course and well, gaming is a broad subject! :)

[@DJFlemmyFlem]

we live in a gamer society

[@thecoolguy420]

@@Jonathan-jp4zz ok boomer

[@simplysimple7628]

The president in 60 yrs will be just doin that. In the oval office yelling at a TV and swearing at it because he just got killed. It is a travesty.

[@marioandrade4278]

@@simplysimple7628 pls stfu you sound stupid

[@ripvanwinkel3961]

True

[@ripvanwinkel3961]

Jonathan not really

[@proudjobcorpsgamer6181]

"There is no emotion behind video games" building a house for my wife and kids in skyrim

[@itzdaman]

This is why the famous phrase was invented: Ok boomer

[@ehsancharolia3297]

Aaahhhh yes the classic.... It seems like it's been a year since I last heard that :3

[@sjc091]

@@ehsancharolia3297 lol

[@focusman420]

I didnt want to comment it, because I figured there was some breathtaking individual who had already said it. Cheers

[@metalphobos3632]

So far the only appropriate time tbat phrase has been used.

[@miguelponceespinel5666]

Yep... when there is no way to explain or dont wanna waste energy trying

[@nick11crafter]

"Theres no emotion in videogames its just 1s and 0s" Did he really say that... Are you serious? Are paintings merely just the paint used to make them? Is music merely the air it travels through? Being digital doesnt not kill the emotion of the piece, in fact I would argue it exemplefies it. Have you ever tried to write a game code? Even something as simple as a text-game is waaaaaay harder than sitting down and typing up or writing a book and if you have enough passion to take your imagination and put it into that meduim then you deserve respect. Granted, several of the AAA companies are just there to milk the industry dry, but they are not the majority of creators and even those working for them deserve respect for their work.

[@a55a55inx]

I agree with what you're saying, but I believe Joe is talking about the characters in the games themselves being devoid of real emotions, which I agree with. The NPC's in video games really don't care what you do to them, they just react based on what they've been programmed to do.

[@nick11crafter]

@@a55a55inx based on his reaction to the media form, I highly doubt he even knows what an NPC is, and there are plenty of games with emotion and good characters, if you dont think there is then you probably play CoD

[@a55a55inx]

@@nick11crafter I've seen some podcasts where he does say that he plays some video games, and he in fact does have a surprising understanding of many types of games. Again, I'm not saying that we, as players, don't feel any type of emotions from playing games nor am I saying that the characters in the games themselves not convey emotional performances. What I AM saying is that NPC's are not real people, they are digitally created out of polygons. The emotions you get from these games comes from the writers and actors, not from the NPCs themselves.

[@nick11crafter]

@@a55a55inx then my original point still stands, the exact same logic would apply to books movies and every other medium available.

[@a55a55inx]

@@nick11crafter Again, I agree with what you're saying about people who play video games can feel emotionally connected to the medium similar to books and movies. However, the point I'm making is that Joe isn't saying that you don't get emotionally involved with video games. What he's referring to is the NPC's emotions, how they aren't real. The difference between video games and other mediums like movies and books, is that you actually interact with the people in the video game world, but it isn't a real interaction between two real people. It's one real person interacting with an A.I. that was designed by a programmer.

[@shamboma]

"Get off the video game and come watch more mind numbing tv!"

[@skyartisan8873]

😂 this is the thing, my mom always judged me for playing videogames while she watched crap on tv

[@pizzarollking4397]

The funny thing is video games improve critical thinking, reflexes and more. Hell people bond over games so the anti-social argument is bullshit. Watching TV makes you a drone. You just sit there and watch with no interaction.

[@DillyDilly13]

This should be top comment.

[@G0dmaster]

"Come mindlessly scroll through facebook with the family on our respective phones, son. Video games will rot your brain!"

[@Rudabaugh]

100%

[@rd-gk4ho]

MMA, boxing is a game. American football is a game. Loss of teeth, brain injury, cauliflower ears

[@guuwadd]

stupid argument

[@Rudabaugh]

"Video games are a waste of time and totally pointless! You need to come out and do something productive with your life!" *Watches TV 6-7 hours a day 365 days a year*

[@taerikee]

"I've rewatched The Office eleventy gajillion times!"

[@fouadguezati8141]

When he said games have no emotions i understood that he never played the last of us

[@detroitboy52289]

This game still have you sad, scared and pissed off after the first 5 minutes.

[@ARINOXMUSIC]

Or heavy rain and so on

[@mcgullible5212]

He's just full of shit tbf. About a week ago he talk about how much he *enjoys* shooter with a game dev and now he's saying it's all empty.

[@protix9880]

well now the game just got absolutely shit on

[@dajokerjr]

As soon as he said that I was like the last of us 5 seconds later seen this comment

[@Moretostro]

Joe "Because they are just 1s and 0s you dont feel" Me "Crying while tossing a cube into a furnace in Portal"

[@fisharepeopletoo9653]

Why did it have to be you, weighted companion cube? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!!!

[@timboyoho]

Lmao yessss same

[@rza884]

playing brothers, feeling sad for a goddam hours after playing it

[@fisharepeopletoo9653]

@@rza884 omg yes for a game with absolutely no dialogue it really hits hard

[@timm-ru9ii]

they made us do it...... we carried it so far..... and they made us do it.....

[@damnson8653]

When he said "snucker" a bit of me died inside...

[@king_david_._26]

“When you play video games you can get so addicted you will isolate.” Laughs in quarantine

[@aja749]

Of all the people I know I think the ones who play video games and keep to themselves are quite smarter than the ones who -waste- spend time seeking validation on social media.

[@umairramzan1991]

Yup, i'd rather sit my ass on modern warfare all day then go through snapchat because it makes us insecure and shit seeing other peoples lives

[@papagrounds]

Facts! Dummies are running this freak show we call society.

[@warzy01]

True...

[@aja749]

@@umairramzan1991 I feel the same way unfortunately the majority of population would rather take selfies and seek attention on social media and majority always wins

[@umairramzan1991]

@@aja749 yeah but im happy without goin on social media you know, i just worry about myself and shit. Only time i go on snapchat or insta is to check my messages

[@Tangible_D]

My kids grew up playing gears of war, chain sawing, sniping heads off with me, they are both well adjusted and doing well. I believe a happy stable family environment for guidance is the key factor. Also playing lego games from around the age of 3 gave them better coordination and problem solving than their peers in nursery.

[@UltraxInstinct]

Gow Ogs deserve more respect!

[@JACKALTOOTH100]

So would you say that if, when the time comes, I let my kid play LEGO Starwars: The Complete Saga, hell be better off?

[@Tangible_D]

@@JACKALTOOTH100 it was amazing to watch them at a young age see how i interacted in a room with an object and them pick up and apply that to other areas so quickly, so i don't see a prob with those kind of games with a time limit of course, but with the more violent stuff as they got older, that's your call, was I lucky or is my theory correct 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rel3ntless_433]

GoW is the goat game, halo a close second

[@JACKALTOOTH100]

Tangible Desires I think you’re spot on. I know people that were literally not allowed to play video games ever by their parents. The way you are handling it is very good.

[@Cautious_Gamer]

"Video games desensitize people" Video Games: Helping people cope with disabilities, loss, abandonment, depression, suicide, drug addition, mental illness and giving them the tools to overcome.

[@ragnar97]

Maybe precisely the guy who has actually killed people isn't the best guy to give advice about violence. Maybe instead talk to the millions who play violent videogames and never smashed a guy's head in with a rock. I know, crazy idea.

[@AntonP99]

The guy who is literally trained to kill people and focus on the mission

[@noxid86]

Its totally not possible that rock-murderer is overreaching as a reaction to the trauma of cracking into the juicy filling of another ape's skull with a rock.

[@AntonP99]

Jeremy Dixon the way you illustrated that was godly

[@user-tn5cq8el4w]

Violent crime has steadily decreased as video games have increased in popularity

[@GruntDestroyarChannel]

gofuk yurselv are you sure? 😂

[@megaskyburst]

Joe “I once played Doom for 9 straight hours” Rogan

[@TriggeredJelly]

9 hours? Pfft

[@gearhead417]

@@TriggeredJelly Those are casual numbers

[@MFenix206]

wait, is 9 hours supposed to be impressive? that is Tuesday... after work.

[@zestybeelzebub]

Those are rookie numbers.

[@Gh0stlyHydra]

Those are rookie numbers

[@zacfromArkansas]

I've gone back and forth trying to reconcile whether video games have been harmful to my life. One thing is for sure, they've had the most impact on me. They are all other art forms combined into one. Art, music, cinema, literature, etc. Halo filled me with more sense of purpose and reverence for humanity than most of my military service did. Deus Ex expanded my critical thinking and awareness of the dangers of multinational corporations and societal implications of transhumanism. I learned more about history from Assassins Creed 2 (let alone the rest of the series) than I did from the entirety of my high school 'education'. Video games have inspired me to travel to D.C., Boston, Vegas, Hoover Dam, NYC, Japan, Italy, Czech Republic, etc. I'm a little nerdy, sure. But it hasn't impacted my social life or success with women at all.

[@alexbedminster1869]

A nice post Z.A.C. :)

[@seandafny]

Thank u bro

[@glenwaldrop8166]

Nice. Let's not forget The Crew, the cheapest way to drive to all states in the lower 48 without spending a year's wages to do so. Skyrim and Fallout 4 keep me sane since I've been sick. Given the option one of my favorite things besides building cars is walking in the woods and exploring. Can't do that at the moment and open world games have done a lot to help me handle all the shit that's gone wrong over the last few years.

[@leestrz4153]

I totally agree with this especially the part about women/ dating. I feel like that's the kind of thing you either have it and learned it or you didn't and that has nothing to do with videogames. Sure many people who seem to miss learning certain life skills go to games or seem to play games but I think they(in the video) lack the understanding.

[@vailble8103]

I love the stigma that gamers are just lonely losers. I would raid on wow then go to the bar and pick up chicks lol

[@BWizard1]

5:32 I love how anyone who is against people playing video games acts like we’re all zombies sitting in front of a screen all day thinking nothing and melting away our brain cells. There’s more to playing video games than you think. I play shooters primarily like cod and overwatch and to be good at either of those you’re thinking constantly. Always thinking about positioning, tracking other players and tracking their equipment and abilities. It’s very tactical and strategic when you really pay attention. Even professional gamers are constantly being shit on by people like this guy for playing video games too much and things like that, but if you think about it the only people who have the fucking time to play video games all day (really meaning like 6-10 hours in a day) are kids or people who are so good at these games that they make more money than people with normal jobs working 8 hours a day. So being a professional gamer playing 8 hours a day streaming every day is NO DIFFERENT than someone working 8 hours doing a desk job. On top of that most of the games people play all day like that are online MULTIPLAYER games where you have TEAMMATES that you have to communicate with. I’m not saying video games can’t be a bad thing and it can’t be abused. There will always be people who go too far with anything whether it’s video games, tv, working out at the gym too much, or eating too much food. But that doesn’t mean everyone who plays video games does nothing, talks to nobody, and hasn’t seen the sun in 2 weeks. Look at nickmercs he’s a professional gamer who is very smart, a very social person always talking to people, goes to the gym consistently and takes good care of himself. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and grouping everyone together for no reason. There are productive people and lazy people everywhere. Try to see things from their point of view. It’s like saying everyone who smokes weed is lazy and are melting away your brain cells yet some professional athletes smoke weed, joe rogan and Elon musk smoked weed on the podcast and they are both very productive and smart people. We would all get along a hell of a lot better if we could all keep a more open mind.

[@fupplebupple135]

Well said

[@alwaysbanned4812]

Normie games like cod and pubg aren't increasing your IQ. Lmao

[@BWizard1]

@@alwaysbanned4812 nobody said anything about cod or pubg. Both are for casual gamers who play for fun and aren’t competitive. Just bc you don’t play any good games doesn’t mean there aren’t any. I play apex and rocket league. Both are all about competition and are very ranked heavy. I’m champ in rocket league and almost master in apex. I’ve played in numerous tournaments for both games too. There are plenty of games that can be taken to a very high level if you work at it. People like you try games like these and get wrecked so you go and play your “normie” games bc you couldn’t keep up with those of us who have like to use our brain.

[@caesar7786]

@@alwaysbanned4812 normie/normal games are NOT just pubg or cod, lol, and people don't just play them..video games vary differently..so, by your comment, it looks like you know absolutely nothing about video games, you think that games are just cod or pubg when there are much much more games than that. Hell, even games like cod or pubg do give you positive effects.

[@biggibbs4678]

But it does absolutely nothing for you. You won't improve your life doing it

[@XxamorOo]

"vidéo games desensitize" Said the guy who killed a guy with a rock... maybe it's me but it seems like it's WAR that did it for you.

[@Sumatchi]

He may have been saying it because of the gravity and trauma of the situation that he had to do to stay alive, and meanwhile hears kids talking about picking up a hooker and beating her to death with a tire iron. He wasn't saying he was desensitized, he was saying video games desensitize real world actions.

[@johnnycampos1760]

@@Sumatchi but they don't. Anyone who is mentally healthy knows the difference between reality and fiction. And how can someone who has very likely never actually played a video game have any credibility when it comes to this?

[@brytonwallis4817]

There’s a difference between controller game practice and assault weapon practice.

[@Sumatchi]

@@brytonwallis4817 yes, but I'm not sure if you've seen the gamers vs full tactical people airsoft game, they still do pretty okay. Vr also begins to generate good tactics and habits. Some information does transfer

[@brytonwallis4817]

Sumatchi but experience?

[@jacobyullman5005]

I personally, and every single one of my friends, have been playing violent videogames since childhood. We were playing Gears of War before we were even in high school. I will admit whole heartedly that we are desensitized, but not to real world violence. Violence in videogames and movies? Hell yes! We could watch Saw without a care, because we understood that it wasnt real. If anything its the news that has desensitized us to violence. Shootings are a dime a dozen these days and with social media and news, we're exposed to the fact that, the world kinda sucks right now. But yeah, a veteran saying that videogames desensitize us to real violence holds no more weight than a lawyer or a politician. It is in no way, shape, or form his area of expertise, and i would no more trust a mechanic to tell me why i have a rash, or a doctor to tell me whats making a banging noise in my cars engine.

[@relhaz4326]

I would just add that the world has always sucked, we just get to hear about it while before you were limited to the minor struggles of the people near you

[@thedag3669]

I think Joe pointed out that it doesnt effect adults like it does children and I totally agree with that. When I saw the chest bursting alien baby scene from Alien as a child it no joke fucked me up. Traumatized the shit out of me. I can see how something like that could have lasting effects on a child in an extreme scenario. I can watch or play anything now no issues but if I accidently stumble upon a beheading or animal abuse video it makes me feel ill..

[@stepow7183]

Matt H, the only problem with that is games are age restricted just like movies. I know we all watched movies and played games we weren’t supposed to when we were young. What more could be done to stop kids playing violent games? Or do we remove excessive violence altogether? What is considered violent as well? It’s quite a grey area.

[@thedag3669]

@@stepow7183 sounds like the only thing we can so that makes sense is absolutely nothing.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

Gears is freakin' awesome. I haven't had the funds to get anything higher than the 360 so I've only played the original trilogy; I've been watching 4 and 5 on KZbin though, 5 made me remember how fast and easily they can introduce a character as a total dick and then make you love him about halfway into the game (Baird and Fahz parallels).

[@javaghoul]

"Chess is noble..its impressive." So is the last of us

[@Amorphous_Sand]

Java Ghoul As a story, yes, top 10 of the decade easy. But in terms of actual gameplay, meh. Chess requires a lot more strategy and patience to master in comparison.

[@vorbo01]

Eh. The Last of Us is so ridiculously overrated.

[@djsilversun]

@@vorbo01 it literally can't be overrated if 95% of people agree that it's a great game

[@vorbo01]

@@djsilversun wtf are you talking about? That's what overrated is. A bunch of people think way too highly of a game with a mediocre plot and shitty gameplay

[@javaghoul]

@@Amorphous_Sand yeah I can agree with that, but gotta admit the gameplay may not be anything crazy or groundbreaking but it's a fun game 👌

[@sunnyD627]

“Chess is different though”

[@StaliasFable]

“There’s no emotion in this thing, it’s a computer creation” I’m sorry joe but anyone who says that about video games has never played a video game, play a game like The Witcher as a 15 year old kid and you’ll have the most emotional breakdown you’ve ever had after the game ends badly

[@G31M1]

This noise has no emotion, it’s just waves of dense and less dense air called sound wave. Why do people enjoy music, I don’t understand it, it scares me.

[@StaliasFable]

G31M1 you’re so boring and lifeless

[@G31M1]

Stalia [QUIT] Lmao you dumb bitch don’t even know me. I just supported you but unfortunately you are too ignorant to see that my comment was ironic. And I‘m pretty sure that I did more exiting stuff than you even though I don’t know you either.

[@piccoloatburgerking]

@@G31M1 You didn't explain that your comment was in support of OP, so you deserve the reaction you got from him. If you don't wanna get your feelings hurt maybe start being more clear with your comments from now on.

[@Greyimm]

The Anime Box i'd say it's pretty obvious he was in agreement with Koi

[@KnifesIOS]

I’ve played violent video games my whole life and I promise you, nothing has made me desensitized. I can’t watch videos of real humans or animals even being hurt a little.

[@michaelthem3]

Exactlyyyyy! We're no psycopaths nor sociopaths for playing any games or watching any movies. People needs to get off of that stupid idea.

[@THIZZAVELI]

LOL it's like a white friend of mine who grew up in the suburbs. He played GTA san Andreas and saints row a lot. We went to Disneyland and his parents couldn't come and pick him up right then. So he came with me and waited at my aunts house in Compton(a nice part). We walked to the store in kind of a bad area. There was 4 gunshots "off in the distance". He flipped the fuck out and didn't want to leave the store. Talking bout "nobody's gonna call the police?" The walk back to my aunts house was hilarious! According to video game haters, he wasn't supposed to be scared.

[@MidnightBootySnatchr]

I do :P I like the ones where the people 'splode

[@dariancanada3108]

Same here as soon as I come across a video with somebody or an animal about to die I skip the video lol

[@pantro1014]

Yeah cause we know it’s just game you’re really not killing anyone. You’re really not dying. Same with movies

[@cheesestick5995]

i really like how joe tries not to give a biased opinion on things

[@wayne2109]

They finally meet

[@danny1229c]

Hahaha the Cheese stick bros meet

[@cheesestick5995]

damn i never thought i'd get a stan in my life time

[@snowlily5540]

I started gaming when I was a young teen, I got my first PC and started playing World of Warcraft, I was fucking hooked. I played on and off until I was around 25, I didn't come from then best house hold so it was an escape, I'm small and skinny and isolated myself playing video games for years, I have always struggled with low self esteem and social anxiety, im the youngest of 3 brothers and I'm naturally small and weak, and unconfident, but in game, and online I am whoever the hell I want to be. I even went to therapy trying to understand why I had all of these problems, why I never achieved my goals or stuck to new hobbies or academics, we never talked about gaming or computer addiction or anything. Then I started reading up and seeing Dr K's videos on KZbin and realised like I have literally stunted my development from sitting playing video games, passing up any opportunity to socialise other than to get messed up on drugs or have sex/party, feeling so out of place with normal people who aren't gamers. I never had issues with girls or having girlfriends because I would just meet them when I went out and got drunk or initiate over Facebook etc, but I understand a lot of other gamers in similar situations haven't even kissed a girl by the time they're 25 so I feel for them. Recently I quit gaming for good, I sold my laptop and gaming PC, got a MacBook Air instead. I started playing bass guitar, taking lessons for that with the money Id have spent on gaming, I go to the gym and lift 5 days per week, I went from 53kg to 61kg in the past 3 months and I'm truly not so tiny and skinny anymore for my short height of 165cm. I'm still socially anxious however this is a journey and I don't feel so unconfident about at least how I look and am perceived. It took my over 10 years to even realise what was holding me back, I truly didn't understand or even acknowledge how much negative impact spending all of your free time infront of your PC has. I still catch myself getting caught up on KZbin or reddit, and I constantly try to block myself out with screen time, but its too easy to get back in, I'm practicing the discipline though. Hopefully I will get to a point where I barely even go on the internet to procrastinate or time-waste because I think it's a parasite in society and it preys on those with issues or addictive personalities, or poor habits/upbringings. Good luck to anyone else trying to quit gaming or improve themselves!

[@caesar7786]

Because you don't know how to keep things balanced..lots of people play games and still live a happy life

[@snowlily5540]

@@caesar7786 absolutely, addiction comes in many forms

[@justinjanysek9247]

Well said a lot of gamers I met were fucking psychopaths and said the most fucked up vile things just for the shock factor, everything in moderation is good, anything in excess is a downward spiral into madness. Go and live your life 🤘🏻🖤

[@caesar7786]

@@justinjanysek9247 it depends on the person, there are good gamers & toxic gamers, i've literally met people who act like that from different groups

[@D1sc0rd-]

He’a got a point though. I accidentally suffocated my cat in a boat yesterday, and I didn’t even feel bad. I felt absolutely nothing, and I didn’t bother to make space in my inventory for the string he dropped.

[@realzz69]

Dude I think you have a problem bigger then that

[@biglicker4473]

Realzz_ lol right tf who doesnt make space in the inventory for string? string!

[@brandonescalante6374]

Had me worried for a second

[@asimellamo8411]

I think a lot of people wouldn't miss you if lightning struck you. Js.. they probably wouldn't even feel bad cause you're probably an asshole

[@smallrossy]

Hilarious

[@notgonnapay]

“Video games do nothing but waste your time.” Coming from the people who sit in front of their televisions to relax. People miss the point: novels, movies, tv, and video games are just different ways to enjoy down-time. Reading a novel and playing a video game both require you to be more engaged with the story, just in different ways. Watching tv/movies on the other hand, are just passive ways to relax. There are also video games where you can become really good and win tournaments and a lot of money if you’re into competitive things. Race car drivers and pilots also use them a lot for simulations. It really just depends on what you use them for.

[@australienski6687]

"Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time" -John Lennon

[@tengenuzui1846]

Walter Pinkman exactly

[@tgris42]

My jaw literally dropped when he said “is playing video games giving you skills to contribute to society” when most games require you to have and build communication and leadership skills, god these guys are out of touch

[@ElBosquee]

10:17

[@thewintersoldier8387]

There old and haters of how popular games are now.

[@TribotBeatbox]

Joe did admit how brainwashed we are as a society towards games being for "losers" though. At least he's aware of his faults

[@TheAcad3mic]

Thats bullshit and you know it. Your head is very firmly up your ass if you believe that what constitutes communication and leadership in almost all online games is even appropriate in the real world let alone actually good.

[@haha69sexnumber]

What games require you to build communication and leadership skills? I'm as much a gamer as anyone else but that's a joke

[@omar212omar]

The way they say snooker is killing me 😂😂

[@travw6272]

I laugh when he said chess is different. Dude watch a pro game of Starcraft, level of intelligence and processing that most people in the world can’t do

[@smillpupstick4323]

My grandma used to get in trouble for listening to the radio too late.

[@THIZZAVELI]

It used to be illegal/inappropriate to shake your hips when you danced in public lol. People have literally went to jail for this smh. It was because it would give people "sinful thoughts". Mind you, this was the "baby boomers" generation lol. Pretty much everybody has 4 - 8 aunts/Uncles from that generation.

[@kowalsky1906]

@@THIZZAVELI lmao💀

[@gunnerchewy]

Haha that was my mum years ago she grew up in a poor part of Brazil and that was her favourite thing to do

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

Gimmy Jibs her favorite thing to do was to have kids?

[@Rkid94]

The argument that a game is cold and digital, a combination of 1's and 0's. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I think there's so much art, humanity and beauty in a lot of video games. Soundtracks, environments, settings, lore, art, narration etc. A game is a combination of all of that! Games like "Shadow of the colossus", "Innocence: A plague tale" and "Journey" would by many, without a doubt, be seen as true works of art. I've wept because of a bunch of these games.

[@xSayPleasex]

Exactly this. Do people not realize ALL of the stand alone "arts" they value are present in video games lol. Beautiful art , many times hand drawn. Amazing, creative, often fully orchestrated music. Engaging well written dialogue and story that's on par with the best novels or movies. and it's all in ONE package...I guess it's just down to bias and/or a complete unwillingness to even attempt to engage with the medium.

[@ikGREENY]

Yes. As a real dedicated gamer and someone who has been very social it definitely impacts your social skills. Gotta make sure you’re getting out 👌🏻

[@michaelcmpn973]

I made a rule that every time I died in a game I had to do pushups. Genuinely lost over 20 pounds being crap at video games. Now I'm kinda better at games. And a bit healthier. Just making your self responsible I guess.

[@TheBontekraai]

That's actually really good. I did it between rounds

[@michaelcmpn973]

Sweet man. I've been varying it with each death the last month on rainbow siege. Like first death is pushups, second pullups, then sit ups, squats etc. Also learnt being unranked in a lobby with friends who are platinum is gonna be detrimental to my fucking life if I don't get better at it quick

[@TheBontekraai]

@@michaelcmpn973 haha, i was about to say. If i have to do it while dying in rainbow siege i wouldn't have any arms left

[@BrisbaneBhoy]

And here I am having a drink each time I die... Now I am a lot less fit and a lot heavier 😄😢😭

[@michaelcmpn973]

@@BrisbaneBhoy never to late to start, shit you could start today and immediately improve your life. You ain't got nothing to lose but excess weight bud!

[@WARVANE]

Video games is the #1 entertainment industry in the world.

[@DmxAng]

@@zacmarvel6369 GTA V is the biggest thing in the entertainment industry EVER

[@zacmarvel6369]

@@DmxAng do you really want to make that argument? Are you seriously trying to sell me that gtaV had maid more money than, on a very small scale, captain marvel? Please bring factual information to this conversation before typing.

[@johnknoneborg]

Zac Marvel lmao look up gta 5 sales and then look up the amount of shark cards sold then get back to me.

[@block36079]

Zac Marvel rockstar games has made $6 billion dollars from just selling copies of gta v, that’s excluding micro-transactions and dlc, while captain marvel has generated $1 billion in the box office. www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3009644033/ www.marketwatch.com/story/this-violent-videogame-has-made-more-money-than-any-movie-ever-2018-04-06

[@DmxAng]

@@zacmarvel6369Fair enough, here you go. www.marketwatch.com/story/this-violent-videogame-has-made-more-money-than-any-movie-ever-2018-04-06

[@marcusvanick6910]

Joe rogan: These digital things have no feel to them Me: cries multiple times during halo reach playthrough

[@tylermckinley9837]

Jorge 😭

[@marcusvanick6910]

@@tylermckinley9837 bro I just teared up a lil bit

[@qthestruggler2715]

Never forget. Noble 6 belonged to Reach.

[@LucaBakiMMA]

Dark Souls has all the feelings from despair to elation.

[@Conundrummy]

Tyler Mckinley Jorge F

[@aaronbernath3554]

the last couple sentences were perfect 😂

[@JHorse508]

Gamers Rise Up

[@matthewhorizon6050]

This reminds me of "procrastinators unit, tomorrow"

[@sporter527]

i think I'm gonna say the n-word

[@thezeddy]

Out the basement?

[@dubzilla6978]

To hell with gamers. Put them to work on the sugar cane fields I say

[@dustinlake1101]

@@Jonathan-jp4zz to raise millions of dollars for charity is one example

[@h00b00]

"Go read a book" is so cringe. This video is the definition of ok boomer.

[@yeemem4580]

Bhoopati Baboo so only the elderly read books lol speak for yourself moron I read

[@ryanbarth863]

Adriangarciacejajose 1 ok boomer.

[@chrismarple]

Channel I guess knowledge is devoid now

[@h00b00]

Not against reading but the condescending way Joe said and others mean when they say "Go read a book" is silly. There are many avenues of learning. For eg. not being a native English speaker, I learned more by watching American movies and shows than by reading. Also, the educational shows here on KZbin and heck even JRE podcasts have taught me more than both my school and college textbooks combined!

[@yeemem4580]

Ryan barth lol I’m 17 bitch but I read instead of watching memes and playing video games to better myself u punk unmasculine bitch

[@theronraam23]

They act like fps has no emotion, as if people didn't get sad/angry when shepard betrayed tf141 in mw2, or when soap died in mw3

[@SkyNinja759]

Or Fallout:NV. Still a FPS by nature but it has extremely good characters, plot, emotion, etc. Games are an artform. It's not a traditional art but anyone who disagrees hasn't been exposed to the right games. Ofcourse CoD and yearly titles like FIFA are soulless in comparison to well crafted RPGs, that's like saying T.V. isn't art because all you seen is the ads.

[@kensmok6045]

and they act like some people don't specifically play to compete competitively and make a career out of it.

[@2010narutovssasuke]

"No Russian" alone triggered that whole continent. But yeah, video games desensitize people...

[@kensmok6045]

@@2010narutovssasuke And watching TV, Movies and the News doesn't? youtube alone has 1000x the content to desensitize people. Stop using video games as a scape goat.

[@2010narutovssasuke]

@@kensmok6045 What the hell are you talking about, that's my whole point. I was using sarcasm. The guy said that video games desensitize people to violence and cause them to act out, which is false for most of the world's population. I mentioned the "No Russian" mission to give an example of how emotional and sensitive people can be over video games.

[@rakuturt2854]

"They are just a bunch of 1s and 0s" Joe, you are looking at pictures of physical art. Those pictures are also, in the end, 1s and 0s. Does that diminish their appeal? If you were unaware of the process involved in creating physical medium, would you appreciate them less? What if you saw a digital piece that looked as if it were a picture of a physical piece? It's possible digital artwork does not draw you in, sure. However, I think if you search enough, you will find some digital art that will blow you away! Some really talented people put in a lot of time and effort creating some real masterpieces intended for different purposes - video games, animated films, static art, etc.

[@Boznean]

Yet pinning two men against each other in a ring somehow contributes to a larger conversation? If anything, you gain the insight that man himself has not changed much since the days of colosseum fights to the death. Gaming literally gives younger males (the primary audience of this podcast) the necessary nature of competing without the negative physical impact of it all. Games connect us in ways unforeseen yet. AI and all of this technology is a new advancement in human evolution. Older men can't see past the stereotypes because their BUILT that way. Imagine if someone from 1500 AD told you that they couldn't believe that men in UFC don't fight to death and instead fight until one gives up. They would laugh in your face and question your masculinity and your "ability to get a girl." South Korea has proven that culture is the key to human evolution. Women in South Korea love e-champs because their told they are great. It's all an illusion like life itself is. It's just a matter of perspective and none of it matters. Humanity is and always was a game of superiority within the limits they were given.

[@Jerry_Bean]

@Herblin Smerblin you don't seem like a very open minded person

[@hadiakhtar8431]

​@Herblin Smerblin Well saying that anyone who plays video games isn't an "actual man" is not the most open minded response to a seemingly objective and reasonable statement from that point of view. Just saying it doesn't put you in the best light.

[@fireoverload7941]

Herblin Smerblin are actors not real men? He is a KZbinr and otherwise an entertainer I think that is useful to be able to lighten up someone’s day by creating content. I’m just saying that helping someone’s mental health by entertaining them is useful thus by your definition makes him a man.

[@Jerry_Bean]

@Herblin Smerblin you talk nonsense

[@Jerry_Bean]

That's because you're speaking nonsense and I don't give a fuck if you think I seem 'intelligent' you child

[@Kickazzgoalie]

Joe: "No tendencies towards violence" Also Joe: Beating dudes brains in for years as a fighter, comments on UFC fights. Yea I see no disconnect here.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

I had the same thought, he watches and participated in violent "sport", aggrandized by blood lusty viewers.

[@topkek670]

hahaha thats a great point.

[@DA-nk6gx]

But watch out a gamer may yell "fucking fuck" after being spawn killed a few times.

[@JohnDoe-qz1ql]

You're taking it out of context. I could also argue ALL sports are ''violent'' because they all aggressively pursue the end goal. And I wouldn't be wrong, now would I? Yet it isn't necessarily true AND I sound like a bitch sayin it don't I? Guess what you too.

[@DA-nk6gx]

@@JohnDoe-qz1ql Not really out of context. Joe said to take a guy like him or others with no tendencies toward violence and have them play a violent videogame like RDR2 and they would not be more violent than before, but, it may effect a kid or teen. Well Joe has been in and around fighting since he was a kid/teen and even though fighting is a very violent sport he has never killed anyone. He has never even physically hurt anyone intentionaly (outside of competition). In fights people often break bones and get bloodied and get head trauma. The people fighting inflict it on one another. In videogames no one gets physically hurt but that somehow will desensitize you more than punching people in the face and head and grappling people with all your strength. Not all sports are violent but sports tend to have violent aspects to them and that's not bad. Its part of what makes them fun and can be done safely while not making anyone into violent mosters, the same logic should be applied to video games. It was just ironic that Joe disconnected violence from one of the most violent sports around that he has been involved with since he was a teen.

[@spook3112]

We Live In a Society

[@uinandoextra2675]

Why that name though😭😂

[@dubzilla6978]

The Bible clearly states what will happen to gamers. The meek shall inherit the earth....When Chads are done with it

[@denverscott37]

I..... Disagree.....

[@OctaneNeedzRehab]

Speaking from 22 years of daily video games, I’m 24 btw. Video games have multiple benefits. They teach you strategy, creativity, problem solving, reaction time, hand eye coordination, and build your brain in a way that it uses those skills everyday. As far as building your mind I feel video games are better than their example of books. It’s a thing that you’re controlling and has many advanced mechanics and infinite outcomes. It takes a LOT of brainpower to play high pace competitive games.

[@RockSolitude]

Gamers: truly the most oppressed minority in society

[@TheZoeBig]

Gamers are not a minority.

[@RockSolitude]

@@TheZoeBig they are such an oppressed minority people even deny their minority status. Smh my head.

[@marcsalkeld1360]

RockSolitude howlin lol

[@augustwavra196]

Only the ones on the floor

[@steveclarkreborn]

Other minorites are fucking lynched. Are you kidding me?

[@johola]

Talking about "Videogames" is just way too broad. There is so much variety...

[@zufex2029]

It just proofs they have no idea what they're talking about.

[@dandre3K]

Most people can't even define what a game is.

[@rigzin5418]

Joe needs to have a podcast with Doctor Disrespect

[@Aeruthus]

Holy fuck, I don't even know what that would be like. Would Doc be in character?! This needs to be a thing.

[@mr.n476]

The Doc said it himself he would love to be on JRE podcast but he wants to wait for the perfect time for it. im thinking maybe after he retires from streaming then he will consider it

[@cosmic5368]

OOOOOH That's a good ass idea. We need to make this happen

[@suprcrzy]

AVGN would be a good guest IMO

[@Kkkkkkkkkk747]

OOOOO WE NEED THAT! NOW THAT WILL BE FUN WATCHING. NOT SOME PARENT WHO CAN"T TELL HIS KIDS NO.

[@jaguardiehard--4575]

Video gamers do deserve more respect