Do We Even Need Washes Anymore?

[@samgraafmans6329]

My heart dropped when you pushed over the agrax earthshade :(

[@ProphetBrohammed]

Don"t worry, it was gloss so its barely useful

[@samgraafmans6329]

@@ProphetBrohammed lmao fair enough, never bought a bottle of it before

[@tristanellis-mascoll1171]

Isnt it astounding how much force he needed to push over that pot? Yet everbody spills it like its water.

[@McBethklok]

@@ProphetBrohammed why is agrax earthshade even a thing? Why does dirt color need gloss

[@ProphetBrohammed]

@@McBethklok I heard on one of the GW podcasts that it's used for shading metals. Since you may want some black or brown to bring out the details in metal but you don't want it to lose its luster

[@WrathOfPhropet]

How I apply a wash: 1. Slap it on, move it around 2. Notice pools, drain them 3. Notice pools that have been there for a minute, attempt to drain them too 4. Leave ugly coffee stains 5. Panic 6. Apply more wash to the coffee stain area 7. Have a pool 8. Cry 9. Let it dry 10. Base coat again

[@MrStatistx]

Too relatable. Sometimes you can add "strip paint from airbrushing when applying the wash and reactivating the thin layer"

[@ShowerOnceYearly]

11. Throw mini across the room 12. Glue mini back together while crying

[@Mopopolis]

I have never seen that water trick for panel lines, that is fantastic!

[@noble.cyborg.savage]

My man drops this knowledge all casual while my mind exploded

[@megabiv3246]

Agreed this was probably the best tip in the whole video, great stuff!

[@mistermethmouth]

came here to say this, gave the 100th like in stead

[@TRUEiMPROrecords]

Same here! Mind blown.

[@TRUEiMPROrecords]

Just tried it on some Tau drones and a 1/10 of flow improver in the water made it perfect!

[@jarcuadanantus28]

Say what you want, nuln oil is my necron painting godsend

[@Slenkamure]

how to make my space marines look a little grittier than the base color NULN OIL!

[@anotherinternetperson8495]

Use some regularly watered down black and paint it into where you need it Actually have control

[@Slenkamure]

@@anotherinternetperson8495 also a good method

[@bopo900]

@@anotherinternetperson8495 i think you use to much if you dont have control over your wash.

[@pinoarias8601]

@@anotherinternetperson8495 what's the difference??

[@danepatterson8107]

I've been painting for 17 years and I never saw that panel washing prep trick that you did with water first before the paint. Brilliant!

[@archfrank]

You forgot the first step to cleaning a GW wash spill: taking a picture of it and posting it on ALL the socials

[@jherazob]

He made a whole video about it so he's good

[@kirotheavenger60]

That wetting a model prior to applying the pinwash is legendary.

[@LoreLunatic]

I was coming down to comment that exact thing! Let's hope we both get the hang of this new tool in our belts!

[@blank557]

Agreed. Wish I knew that years ago.

[@themajinchaos7886]

In reality is ABSURD. But this channel is known for some of the most retarded tips for the hobby ever.

[@blank557]

@@themajinchaos7886 Every party has to have a party pooper. But no one invited you here to do so. So make your own channel or just go away.

[@Lodorn]

@@themajinchaos7886 Whats the problem? It looked pretty much like applying an oil recess shade to me?

[@Del_S]

You: *pushes over the earthshade* Me: *reports video for Violent or repulsive content, hateful or abusive content, Harmful or dangerous acts, promotes terrorism, and captions issue*

[@20stardust]

I’d have to disagree about the GW washes. The heavy pigmentation becomes incredibly useful when going for a deep rich recess shade or making an open wound look sore and infected. But I suppose it depends on the individuals painting needs.

[@RobertBobNolan]

Probably best having a variety of brands in the toolbox. They all have uses and advantages.

[@jeantivollier6453]

Plus it is easier to thin a wash rather than to highen up it's pigmentation

[@jamesbruce1975]

That's youtube money right there, only those living the high life could waste wash for a gag 🤣

[@srsgoblin]

I stopped using GW's shade paints in favor of just thinning down the Contrast paint of my choice. But I don't know anyone who thinks washes are bad. I guess some people think they're "newb." Then you realize multiple gold daemon winning artist Trovarion uses them extensively still, going by his latest few videos. Like anything in art, the end result is all that matters. Did the paint used do the thing you wanted? Is the model pretty? Then kudos for using your tools.

[@manolisanastasiou6393]

me im a boxart copier painter only n couldnt give a r@t$ a$$ bout golden daemon realistic standards haha

[@bubger]

GW Wash pots fit perfectly in a 6x6 lego cube. No more spilling

[@eduardodelosreyesberbel1759]

ARE YOU A WIZARD!!

[@Kazmistrz1993]

HOLY SHIT

[@gregmccormack5709]

Whaaaaaat!!! Legend right here folks... Cheers.

[@screaming_cat2007]

Wait…..hmmmmm

[@EternalQuestion]

My last bottle of nuln oil was spilt all over my table twice, then mopped up and put back in the bottle just like you demonstrated. Hardly any wash was lost and my table now has a dark, lustrous finish.

[@heckinmemes6430]

"...not leave it in sloppiness!" *Screams in Blanchitsu*

[@invaderhaywire]

And I learn something new. Wetting my mini before adding panel lines! Great Tip!

[@jeantivollier6453]

You should always be sure before given stroke to anything that it is properly wet.

[@Xgamerdad]

9:32 OMG, that tip was awesome!!

[@Smokey_Crow]

1st I spilled the Agrax, then the Nuln. WHY GORK? Why Mork....

[@cartouchator]

I absolutely love washes. From an all over agrax on death guard models, to red tone on zoanthropes brains for instant perfection, I cannot paint without them.

[@MrKichtopher]

the relief when you sponged up that wash. . .

[@SkeletonBill]

Bro, that water panel lining trick, you've changed the game

[@bretts2356]

"GW washes dry quick and Matte, which is awesome" *Shows pot of Agrax Earthshade Gloss*

[@EonsOfBattle]

yep! that's why I wasn't afraid to knock it over, its GLOSS

[@bretts2356]

@@EonsOfBattle Would have been no great loss.

[@maevethefox5912]

I got a pot of Matte that ended up with gloss inside and damn, it messed up a lot of Word Bearers. They gave me a solid gift card when I showed them though, so I can't be too mad.

[@vectorshaman338]

"Its always better to play with it while its still wet" ... and I choked on my coffee laughing. Worth it, I just washed everything on my desk.

[@mymagicmtg]

Sticky tac to the bottom of the pot is best. Havent spilled wash in a year.

[@BigBoii1369]

This guy is a low-key genius! Amazing panel line trick! I already knew that paint likes to follow water like that, but I never thought about putting water in a recess. Great idea. Also I love the humor and practical tip of sponging up your GW washes to save them, I might have used a paper towel

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

0:13 "I'm never gonna financially recover from this"

[@bluesrock88]

Jesus christ only knows the number of times I toppled over GW washes and ink

[@odinlindeberg4624]

NGL, that clip of you tipping the shade bottle made me feel very motivated to go find an STL of a shade bottle holder. Actually a very particular one that I've already been a bit interested in, but that's netiher here nor there.

[@euansmith3699]

"Wash is Dead"... "I am a leaf on the wind; watch how I soar,"

[@theandf]

Hi Euan! You still on BOLS' comments section? I miss your comments :P It warms my heart to see an Euan sighting ;)

[@euansmith3699]

@@theandf I still pop in to BoLs daily; however, I'm feeling less invested in 40k, and so tend to comment on the cosplay and other games stff. :)

[@ryanthompson6571]

I was using a newly opened reikland for my 50+ stormcast models and knocked it over. My heart stopped 😱 I used a hefty brush to scoop it back up

[@xTessek84x]

You need to stop being so fantastic! I can't stop watching your videos, how am I supposed to get any painting done when I'm so captivated by your easy going charisma?

[@Clear-As-Mudd]

Loved the water trick for the panel lining! 🙌🏻

[@McWerp]

Highlight of the video. Now I suddenly regret the panel liner I bought :D

[@PandorasFolly]

Shit was magic.

[@drost47]

Idk how other people paint, but i do a spray can of black on everything, then white spray can just from the top, then water based paint slightly watered down for all my layers, and then usual a dark wash, like a black or a brown just evenly over everything. Its quick, looks great on most things, and while some characters with lots of different colors, such as humans wearing cloaks and stuff, im generally lazy and just do black. Sometimes i will do black, with a light layer of brown near their feet for like a trudging through the dirt effect, and sometimes i use red for melee weapons

[@drost47]

Im actually afraid of using oils. Some of my dnd painting when i first started painting minis were with oils, and they always looked bad, but water based paint is my god sent

[@shaolinlueb]

that line trick is amazing. sharing it with everyone I know.

[@TheKragar]

That panel lining water technique was a nice little bonus I wasn't expecting.

[@demon1103]

Yeah...Would have been so useful a week ago when I was attempting something similar with some Blackstone Fortress explorer capes.May try and see if I can still do it

[@pinoarias8601]

It's fucking brilliant is whst it is.

[@Gebunator]

Say waht you say, but leadbelcher and nuln oil makes some greeaat unpainted metal. Heck, in heavy amount it makes nice dirty metal for orks and 2-3 coats of nuln oil gives nice weathered down blackish gun paintjob.

[@meanstarfish]

I wish i new it a long time ago the trick first a little bit of water than the shade, it would have saved me many many hours of painting, thank you very mutch for the water tip

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Rip earthshade you will forever be missed

[@davinci3259]

Play with it while it's still wet. Only advice needed.

[@MrStatistx]

You don't have to push them over, they do that by themselves. I have to say in terms of washes I changed my approach. For some things like weathering, or ground variety, or metallics I still use them, but for skin and such I try to stay away, simply for the reason that I want to learn to shade like the pros with blending and glazing

[@commodusleitdorf2726]

I can never abandon my liquid talent.

[@Maxiplusomat]

Really interesting video, thanks. I´m coming from scale modeling and have been using oil washes for decades. I was pleasantly surprised to discover GW acrylic washes recently and always use them now when I want quick results. They are a godsend for pilot figures, where putting much effort in painting would be wasted since they sit mostly obscured in a cockpit. However, for really advanced miniatures i still prefer oils because they can be controlled more precisely due to their extended drying time. For best results I use Humbrol or Abt.502 thinners. I also have to agree that Vallejo acrylic washes are pretty useless.

[@KabinMiniatures]

I feel like a lot of channels tend to state things like "stop using washes to become a better painter". While I do understand that sentiment, I also believe washes can be great for newcomers to the hobby/younger painters, as well as using them for rank and file minis. Don't wash shame each other, people!

[@hobbithubby5076]

I started using a black wash over my zenithal highlighted minis to really get that detail to pop. It’s a game changer for my prep phase.

[@fredrikdahlstrom7711]

Panel lining with acrylic washes just using water is pure magic! Never seen it before. Thanks for the tip!

[@13Robzilla]

You surprised me, to find a few new tips on something I've been using for so long is quite impressive. Thank you for sharing and please stay safe.

[@MrPolicekarim]

What people forget is that an oil wash on a mini takes 3 hours to dry! They are normally used by scale modellers on 1/35 tanks, where they take 12 hours to dry! Also, Tamiya Panel liner is an enamel based product, if you don't put a gloss coat on before the liner, it will attack the acrylic paint! I am not trying to be elitist and say who's better-miniature figure painters or scale modellers. But those guys, when they make a 1/35 diorama it usually is 1 tank & 5 or 6 figures. Mini painters normally have entire squads or armies to paint! Also, model planes and tanks have large flat areas so acrylic washes would be no good for them, they have to use oil washes which they don't like because it's hours or even a week to dry! PLASMO did an oil paint sludge wash on a plane that took 1 week to dry!

[@EonsOfBattle]

really interesting! acrylic washes dry in about 30 seconds, maybe a minute if you really glob it on.

[@nemhod]

My dude, that tip for panel lining is pure gold! Thanks for the share!

[@Snarfindorf]

For any newbies looking for tips, washes can legitimately take your model from a 3/10 to an 8/10. It provides depth that you desperately need, it's extremely easy to apply, and it's forgiving. I usually use it on top of a base coat, and then add another layer of paint in spots that need touching

[@LopsidedMoz]

PSA: washes are just watered down paint, you can make your own by adding extra water to paint

[@wolfehoffmann2697]

@@LopsidedMoz No, they are not. There's additional additives that change qualities like surface tension. This is most apparent in the GW versus Army Painter comparison to be made in which Army Painter and older GW washes are notorious for pooling heavily in recesses, while the newer/current GW washes have better application control. You can make your own washes, yes. But if you think it's just a matter of adding more water to paint, then you have no idea what you're doing or talking about. You should be using actual thinning mediums, to start with, but there's more you can do beyond that.

[@eroooz]

What i like with EoB is that you look for good solutions. So if GW have something good then you say it and not rage over GW like alot other KZbins. With that you can have a clear head when listning to you. Keep up the good work.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

the panel line bit was like pure witrchcraft. thanks man. I never knew that technique before. where can I get one of those panel lining brushes, please?

[@Riddler_von]

Hey new fan old vid. What do you think of contrast paints

[@crawbag0311]

OMG that intro tipping over the pot! My hands were reaching for phantom paper towels while I screamed and cursed. Wife didn't know what I was doing.

[@ianr94]

thanks for useful tip wetting surface before panel lining

[@xdevantx5870]

Do not use your "good" brushes for washes. This is the fast road to having a new dry brushing brush.

[@Nikolaijuno]

I love Seraphim Sepia. It's so good. Over white it makes a good easy bone.

[@duathhadron5040]

Ok, I want to say thank you for that last tip about the water! I’ve been trying to find a way to make the runes on my Thousand Sons weapons really pop without getting the paint everywhere! I just tried that trick and thinned my paint down to almost the thinness of a wash, and it worked damn near perfect!

[@zacciswacc594]

The word “wash” doesnt sound real anymore after this vid lol Also that was my Tau commander at the end! :)

[@abeearoundapomegranate5333]

Oh man, you really had me for a second there. I was in the middle of writing "YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH".

[@Tom_-]

That tip about wetting the area before using washes to panel line/pin pine is amazing - I'm definitely going to give that a try!

[@sebytheman]

yo idk why I just found this channel now but it's an incredibly easy sub, your content is super informative and super pleasant. Sponges and wetting down spots for pin-shading are awesome tips that hadn't occured to me at all!

[@erink1709]

The water trick for pin washes. I needed this very badly. I do not want to think about how many times I redid cypher lords headdresses.

[@YalelingOz]

Oh, I'll be keeping a small sponge on hand after this. But the pin washing technique is going to get some solid use. Thanks!

[@glutenbergbuchstabensuppe766]

The pre-wetting thing for panels is great. Thx

[@Yo7p]

This may be the best wash tutorial around. Save this video folks!

[@oc8473]

Deathguard Green + Agrax Earthshade is the spiciest combo

[@alexyorkshots]

That water panel lining trick is epic!! Thank you!

[@alexfigirova]

Amazing tip on using water to do the thin lines with wash! Thank you.

[@simon3818]

Spilling that agrax in the beginning physically pained me

[@Vanye111]

The panel line trick was awesome. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnwiles4661]

The water-panel liner tip was really good. 👍 Thanks for the video.

[@jameskyle7943]

Good tip about the panel lining with the pre-moistening step.

[@sinaptic]

I actually really like the semi-opaque qualities of the Vallejo washes; apply, then using a little bit of airbrush thinner on a brush/q-tip (and some practice), you can manipulate it on the model much like an oil wash for creating grime and tints. It's also acrylic-based and a much less toxic method than oils, which is great if you have a small workspace without a lot of ventilation.

[@jimsutter2748]

I have one of those triangular 3 GW paint pot holders that I use just to keep my washes from spilling.

[@jacredhead12345]

This honestly helped me thinking about how washes are used. I knew of them but i never really got the concept of how to properly use them.

[@eldraque4556]

top tip on the panel lining

[@aegisvald5093]

Tipping over that shade gave me the feels.

[@LittleHillsTabletop]

Oh my god! That pre-wetting trick for psuedo-panel liner painting blew my mind! Thank you!

[@patrik90a]

That recess washing using water is ingenious!

[@alexanderk.7782]

water wash combination - mind blowing!! thx you!

[@SamuelHolt1980]

OMG, the water tip is amazing! Legend! Thank you!

[@mordy2v]

Instead of panel liner I use acrylic inks (Daler and Rowney) as they come in a variety of colors and also work well to create shades of brighter colors when mixed in.

[@johnlanger7852]

I use a cheap paint pallet and have my nuln oil in a dropper bottle to put it in said pallet. So I don't tip the pot over.

[@kingbellos1403]

Started the hobby about 5 months ago. Saw videos about how washes were instant talent. I spent a lot of time getting the marines painted. Covered in a wash. Let it dry. Then went “WTF did I just do....” I learned real fast to selective wash and use very tactically.

[@brandongiles6875]

I really like the tip about pin washing. I'll be sure to give it a try.

[@pedrobastos8132]

Well I prefer using homemade acrylic washes for big pieces of terrain, as oil washes take too long to dry

[@egiljo72]

I often use washes mixed with contrast medium. 2 thin layers, works great. Love your sponge clean up 👍

[@doctordoubledakka3939]

Water trick for panel linig so great. THank you

[@danspencer1281]

This may well be your most helpful video yet

[@ZombieApocalypse09]

Great vid. Lots of awesome advice and tips.

[@kiesminis]

I had pains seeing that Agrax Earthshade paint spill. I use washes more sparingly these days I prefer glazing more but I also like to apply straight from the bottle when I use them. I currently don't have any oil washes at the moment.

[@angrysnailbug]

That water trick for panel lining is INCREDIBLE!!!!!

[@jonhall8845]

That water trick is brilliant 👏thank you!

[@maevethefox5912]

I paint my Orks almost entirely with washes, outside of the metallics and the odd highlight. Turns out remarkably well and is super low on working time for batch painting hordes

[@lysanderdorn727]

Am I tye only one that felt real pain when he tipped over the wash at the start of the video?

[@RCBashist]

I've lost half a bottle of Nuln Oil Gloss like that. Unfortunately for me, my workbench sucked it up in only a minute or two. Very sad. :(

[@Seoz]

Nice idea to wet model before applying washes into recesses. Thanks Jay!

[@littleninja830]

Awesome walk through of techniques. I’m sure to try upping my wash game.

[@jimostlund2166]

Nice tips about the panellining!

[@woahhbro2906]

YOU CAN TAKE MY WASHES FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS

[@konstantin3374]

Pre-wetting also works like a charm with oil washes (and similar products like Tamiya liners), but you have to do it with white spirit instead of water and it dries way faster.