Do We Get Offended Because Christians Believe in Truth?

[@TheZeroNeonix]

"Okay, so I heard you're a Christian." "Yes, the rumors are true." "Wow. How strange that you would identify with the same religion as 90% of the people who live in this country. This trait of yours couldn't be more mundane." "Indeed."

[@WWZenaDo]

I love pointing out to Christians that "Jesus" was a human sacrifice, which makes him a continuation of the Israelites/Hebrews' practice of child/human sacrifice shown in the Abraham/Isaac tale, the Jephthah's daughter tale, the requests for first-born males, the sacrifice by the king of Moab of his own son and the way that sacrifice scattered the Israelites, and so on in the Old Testament.

[@CorbCorbin]

WWZenaDo Yet King Herod never mass murdered toddlers in the fear of a prophecy, that not even the Jewish prophets believed was happening.

[@WWZenaDo]

@@CorbCorbin I think you're absolutely correct. Although King Herod was brutal and cruel in many situations, especially later in his life, he absolutely depended upon Rome and Rome's good will to continue ruling Judea. Slaughtering first-born Jewish baby boys could have prompted another Maccabean-like revolt, which would have made him deeply unpopular with Rome. Also, his purges often targeted his own family, and especially supposed members of the destroyed Hasmonaean dynasty. It is possible that he viewed a random group of male babies as threats vying for his throne, but in reality there were far more legitimate threats to his kingdom and his rule. Besides, that tale has many features that more closely fit the ancient Hebrew practice of child sacrifice, as shown by the tale of Abraham and Isaac and the tale of Jephthah's daughter, to name two well-known examples.

[@CorbCorbin]

WWZenaDo Very well stated, and recounted. You have far more knowledge on the politics of that period then I can remember anymore. I agree on how closely it resembles the features of older Jewish stories of sacrifice, and that Herod was much too busy with family threats, imagined or real, and keeping in good with Romeo to have done anything to jeopardize the stability of a city. People weren’t all subservient weaklings, who did nothing if you kill their children. 🤣 These are people descended from some killers, according to the Old Testament.

[@thehellyousay]

90%? More like 45%

[@sbushido5547]

_"You can decide to believe whatever you want."_ You literally can't. Decide to believe the sun is made of milk. Go on. Not just pretend that you believe it. _Actually_ believe it.

[@Myhsiryh]

Exactly! I’m really surprised PoZ didn’t pick that one up. 🤔

[@sbushido5547]

@@Myhsiryh eh, the video would be like 2 hours if he went through and dissected every single dumbass sentence in it.

[@reformCopyright]

But I don't want to believe that!

[@reformCopyright]

I mean, when presented with a claim, you may want to make a judgement as to whether it's true or not and decide whether it's believable or not. Or you can reserve judgement and not decide either way, or somewhere inbetween. Religious people do seem good at skipping the first part and deciding to believe things that they *want* to be true.

[@lurch666]

This it something I think the average theist misses all the time. Belief is NOT a choice.I can never believe in god (unless he appears in from of me) since the evidence is so flimsy. You can't decide to believe or not believe in something you can only be swayed by arguments.

[@charliewhite3905]

"You not entitled to your own facts" and then goes on to state "facts" about jesus. Also the non-believer was the worst straw man I've seen in a while

[@reformCopyright]

He's such a bad straw man that I'd say he's not even a straw man, only a heap of straw.

[@eevee1583]

He was just one straw. Just one.

[@WWZenaDo]

@@eevee1583 And a plastic straw, at that.

[@brainwashedbyevidence948]

@@WWZenaDo a cheap, recycled plastic straw at that!

[@WWZenaDo]

@@brainwashedbyevidence948 You nailed it!

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

"God, another Atheist walks up to me while I'm minding my damn business? I hate going to Strawman U."

[@ProphetofZod]

Yeah, you can't get a moment's peace without atheists walking up and asking if you have a moment to talk about their lack of a Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

[@MrKit9]

"Do you have our Lord and Saviour Rationality in your Heart?"

[@kevinlitton1399]

It does have a pretty sweet kevin sorbo memorial stadium.

[@pouncerlion4022]

@@kevinlitton1399 Don't forget the Melissa Joan Heart library.

[@sovietbot6708]

Don't you just hate it when you magically appear in God's Not Dead?

[@jorgeamadosoriaramirez8953]

Of Course the comments are disabled. Because nothing says "I'm right" louder than not wanting to see a discussion.

[@bdf2718]

Yeah, he's really tolerant of other people's views.

[@jayleneellis9308]

I am SO RIGHT, you are NOT allowed to tell me how RIGHT I am...😒🙄😵

[@dieseljester3466]

Right? I checked out a few of their videos. Comments are disabled on all of them and you can't comment on their About tab.

[@franktherealist481]

The comments were disabled because they know their garbage doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Truth does all day long and they don't have that. They can claim it but they have to demonstrate it. I know there'll be some theist who'll come on here to share their fantasy as if it were true by misrepresenting some science they think they understand as being false. They'll always mix cosmology and evolution as one science and then claim that it doesn't explain origins. And they're right. Abiogenesis tries to and they are making miles of progress but there's still lots of questions. What they know so far has helped medicine and other fields of study, which opens the door to other questions. MAN, SCIENCE IS F'N GREAT! If it was possible to learn everything, I'm in! Too bad it's not. You can only know what you can know the minute you learn it. I could be wrong. Any way, religion is a fantasy and anyone who is in it is a victim of ignorance. It's not bad but it isn't some thing I suggest they keep being in if they want to be relative to the truths being found every day in life. They have no proof of heaven or hell. They have no proof that are right but there is tons of evidence suggesting they're wrong. The bible is a good base for that evidence. If they only stopped believing in their preachers and actually read the damned book, they'd see what we see as atheists because anyone who truly reads the bible with out bias becomes an atheist. Like me.

[@Chamelionroses]

The ones that ask questions and then block comments ( fear of youtube/ social media sites not monitizing to actually facing reality) are cowardly. I find many religatrolls and into big woo ( flat earth to anti vax) make big money cults or otherwise.

[@zeronova1484]

"That doesn't mean everyone's beliefs are true." Sooo close to self- awareness, so close.

[@blatherskite3009]

Yep. Just one step further and they'd get there... "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." - Mark Twain

[@maskmaster8898]

The thing that I find especially ironic is that most of the time you'll hear statements like "It's true for me" and "your truth is not the same as my truth" out of religious people, not atheists.

[@Oswlek]

Yes, projection is a hallmark of religious apologetics. It's sad.

[@7Raincloud3]

I remember when I was so sheltered in my Catholic school that I thought this was actually how non Christians thought.

[@nihilistnick5094]

Zod... are you a masochist... my brain only survived because you kept interrupting

[@brainwashedbyevidence948]

This is the worst piece he's covered so far ... I LOVE IT!!!!

[@SKO_PL]

"Oh my rhetorical and non-existent god" that's such a good line OMG... I mean OMRANG

[@jarrod752]

At least it's LGBT friendly and that nice gay Christian got a date. I love happy endings!

[@panda_pumpkin2725]

Good for him

[@CorbCorbin]

Until he’s thrown in a van and sent to a South American conversion camp.

[@greatestscott6599]

@@panda_pumpkin2725 _God_ for him ☝️

[@anikmonette2140]

Okay now I'm deceased! 😄😄😄

[@marccolten9801]

Hmmm, I wonder what the atheist will yell when he comes?

[@jayleneellis9308]

So many straw men, it's like the straw man in the wizard of Oz is having a family reunion. 😜😅🙄

[@sirmeowthelibrarycat]

Jaylene ellis 🙀 But - the Scarecrow asked the Wizard of Oz for a BRAIN . . . ! Unlike these dingbats and their co-religionists who appear to have no functioning brains at all 🙀.

[@guytheincognito4186]

@@sirmeowthelibrarycat Precisely, if only the rest could do the same 👍😜

[@bdf2718]

Pretty soon he'll have enough straw men to form a straw army.

[@johnwalker1058]

It reminds me of the scene in Doctor Who, from the Family of Bloods episode where the scarecrow army was invading the school where the Doctor was hiding out.

[@KnakuanaRka]

And the scarecrows have more brains among them!

[@australianandrew128]

True Thing : If I tell the truth about everything, I will offend people. False Thing : Therefore, if I offend people, I must be telling the truth!

[@GinEric84]

If "are you tolerant" means "do you suffer fools" then the answer is no

[@helenaconstantine]

He should have explained to the Christian about his laryngeal nerve.

[@ProphetofZod]

Hahahaha!!! :D

[@bdf2718]

And his epididymis.

[@Phreemunny]

And his man nipples, and his breathing tube and swallowing tubes being connected, and his palmaris longus tendon...

[@bdf2718]

@@Phreemunny All mammals have breathing and swallowing tubes connected, but only _Homo sapiens_ has a larynx that prevents simultaneously breathing and swallowing. Of all the mammals, only _H sapiens_ has the ability to choke to death while eating. That makes us "special," I guess. Two very special people: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48996318

[@PsychoticEwok]

What do you mean it's perfectly designed by God that's why I had to get my appendix out and them tonsils 10 out of 10 perfect design oh wait I had to get them out too 😂

[@NEMOfishZ92]

"It's TRUE for you but not true for everyone" That line made me laugh They had the atheist say it but I have only ever heard a Christian say "it's true for me" Classic projection

[@thecatattheend2250]

Christian: "Not everyone's beliefs are true." Oh the irony.

[@markdayell61]

I love that comments are disabled for the original video. Almost as if their "Truth" won't stand up to scrutiny or criticism.

[@AsmodeusMictian]

Back when I was a very religious lad, I thought that people just needed logic and Jesus to understand the world. No big deal. As I grew up, I came to the realization that religion basically excludes logic and requires you to simply BELIEVE....no silly questions, no examination of the claims, JUST FUCKING BELIEVE. YOU CAN BELIEVE, RIGHT? The more questions I asked, the less it made sense...and the more that my pastor said I "needed Jesus". This caused a chain reaction that led all the way up to this exchange: "But if the Bible is true, how are there bones in the ground that we can use science to see that they are FAR older than 6,000 years?" "Those were put in there by the Devil to mislead man away from God."

[@thomasdevlin5825]

"Let's see if we can tolerate each other some more!" that is the single most passive aggressive thing I've ever heard

[@TheBastius]

The only discussions theists can win are the ones they purposefully made up for them to win.

[@TheMilitantMazdakite]

No, no, no, I, as a Zoroastrian, have won almost every single debate I have ever gotten into. Christians, Muslims, Atheists, you name it!

[@gregcampwriter]

On a side note, whoever portrayed the fictional non-believer should be nominated for some acting prize. I could not have read that part without losing it.

[@SapphWolf]

Omg...that video...So....dumb.... I-I feel... I need to lay down... and an ibuprofen. Ow.... Zod, how can you willing subject yourself to this kind of stuff?

[@bdf2718]

I find that alcohol buffers the brain against stupidity.

[@shriggs55]

@@bdf2718 And weed hightens your awareness of stupidity!

[@MrDigztheswagking]

Aurora Echoes ibuprofen 800 mg

[@SapphWolf]

Things I have learned today: Do watch apologetics while drunk. Do not, under any circumstances, watch apologetics while stoned. Excellent life lessons.

[@the_kraken6549]

You see: acceptance of zod as your savior builds resistance to this kinda stuff, (with a minor staticky side effect)

[@Myhsiryh]

16:31 “You can decide to believe whatever you want.” I’m surprised you didn’t tackle this! I don’t think that an individual can choose what they’re convinced is true. One is simply either convinced or they’re not. What do you think? By the way, I really love your stuff, and since I discovered your channel a few months ago I’m always eagerly awaiting new uploads! Keep up the good work, PoZ! 😄👍

[@WWZenaDo]

“You can decide to believe whatever you want.” Yeah, NOT. Only if one wasn't coerced or even beaten into it as a child.

[@Myhsiryh]

WWZenaDo I think you misunderstood my point. It sounds like you’re alluding to the situation where they _say_ “you can believe whatever you want,” but then _act_ like you don’t really have a choice. But I’m talking about the very idea that *any* of us have any choice *at* *all* in what we actually perceive as an accurate description of reality - or in other words, what we *believe* *is* *true.* And it seems to me that I cannot choose whether or not I am convinced of the truth of any particular claim; I am simply either convinced, or I am not. It seems to be outside of my control.

[@WWZenaDo]

@@Myhsiryh - Okay, I think I see your point. I've never subscribed to the philosophical concept that no one can see reality, that all we ever see is our own special little versions. If that was the case, communication (especially within scientific disciplines) would be difficult to nearly impossible. I shudder to think what normal everyday human communication would look like, if that philosophical claim was true.

[@spacedoohicky]

@@WWZenaDo There is lots of evidence we can't observe reality. It's somewhat philosophical, but there's plenty of science about it. Look up "perception is controlled hallucination". We can mostly agree on what reality is without being able to access it directly because our faculties are at least wrong, or right in the same way because of biological determinism. We can even verify this with the interpretation of light. There are parts of the spectrum we can't directly observe. But we still believe those parts of light exist. So even if we can't observe something directly we can use science to investigate it. So if one of us could somehow see the other parts of light everyone else can't see does that make them better at science? I don't believe it would. But it could. Perhaps we actually aren't that great at science. Maybe an alien species that can observe far more than we can would be able to progress in science much faster than us. So relatively speaking maybe we really do suck at science. Recorded history is several thousand years long, and we've only made strides in the last few hundred years. So it's plausible that it is difficult for us. We just don't have any other species to compare to that would do better.

[@WWZenaDo]

@@spacedoohicky - I am thoroughly unimpressed by philosophical discussions. The ones I've observed appear to meander all over the place, undermine confidence in our abilities to function in the realities of our existence,, and never provide practical, workable answers.

[@norelfarjun3554]

The main thing that helped me get out of the closed religious circle I was stuck in was the bad way I was taught what people outside the circle think. I simply could not believe that the whole world was so backward. Luckily, I discovered that the people who controlled me simply lied to me

[@chrisose]

The strawmen that apologists argue against are as fictitious as the deities they worship.

[@Ergeniz]

Sometimes you just have laugh even when you don't want to.

[@doug834]

Rather than try to argue points on my own I'm probably going to start referring people to your videos instead. You always express things way more eloquently than I do and you say what I'm thinking far more coherently. Well done as always.

[@darkstarr984]

Oooo, there’s a philosophical textbook I tried reading - “Truth.” It seriously is mind-bending how complicated the questions - of what is true, if we can define truth, what methods are possible to use to learn about truth, or even whether there *is* truth, much less some single absolute truth - are. The empirical approach of science and scholarship is genuinely the closest we’re able to come to constructing an approximation of any objective truth.

[@toothclaw6985]

"I just think people shouldn't express their personal beliefs". The creator of that video could save a whole country's worth of farmers with the big strawman they built right there, let alone with the rest that they built.

[@lisamariefan]

This hurts. This hurts. This is so painfully dumb. Not the criticism but the actual video being responded to.

[@Ergeniz]

The amount of blatant strawman and unaware irony actually made me laugh hysterically. I only managed to stop when I realized this was in fact, not an parody (not intentionally anyway) but an blatantly dishonest caricature of atheists (mixed with SJWs and safespace cry-babies to boot). The religious people actually believe this shit too, and worse attempt to paint themselves as persecuted victims in an country where they are the overwhelming majority. Its disgusting. Clearly, this type of trite is popular, as evidenced how God is Not Dead got two sequels.

[@samppakoivula9977]

I did the tolerance quiz and got moderate and the commenting text basically said (paraphrased): "You are not totally hopeless since you are moderate, but you should still work on your tolerance" Gee, thanks a million, team fair! (I gave them e-mail where all my junk mail goes, so doesn't matter really)

[@CteCrassus]

2 + 2 = 10 ... ... ... In base four! *I am FINE!!!*

[@ProphetofZod]

Hahahaha!!! You are indeed.

[@tarmairon431]

And 2+2=1 mod3

[@AsmodeusDHare]

I did mine with Binary and showed them how that worked . 2+2=100. 000, 001, 010, 011, 100. and I had to do it twice just so he got the idea.

[@fredriksundberg4624]

Juan Carlo Gonzalez : Because of reasons, right?

[@tarmairon431]

@@AsmodeusDHare you mean 10+10=100 in binary. 2 does not exist there.

[@trippmoore]

"My life is garbage." LOL I felt that one brother.

[@anthonyrobertson7062]

Yeah I grew up in church hearing all the reasons why people rejected Jesus and our god. It was pretty much always "God has revealed himself to them, they KNOW he is real, but don't want to follow him." I now think pastors never actually talked that much to non believers and just got their talking points from books by other believers who never actually talked to nonbelievers. If they did, anything the person said was taken as "you say that because of anger towards god." They just pull the reasons out of the air that they like.

[@Aboredtaxan]

Man what do they mean, as soon as my youth group found out I was atheist 3 people at my school came up to me and tried to convert Me like what ,one kid got mad once I defended my beliefs from a watchmakers argument like what did you think was gonna happen

[@alissagrissom5597]

I am a college professor and I sit on my desk. Just not cross-legged because I'm fancy and wear skirts.

[@rogerroger5649]

Christian propaganda pure and simple. On a side note POZ, I wanted to let you know that your videos have really been a nice place for me to go when things are tough. I am an 'in the closet' atheist so my wife, kids (who are grown) and the rest of my family are in the dark and watching your videos is kind of comforting. I guess maybe it is your voice and the general gentler (as opposed to in your face) tone of your videos. Anyway, thanks man.

[@dennisbast743]

Wishing you best of luck, Roger. It's gotta be hell seeing the ones you love still enslaved. Stay strong knowing you're not alone. Peace

[@Remake5182]

You'er not alone, I too am a closet athiest.As an ex muslim finding out my parents are fine with the death of apostates its clear that I might have to be in till I move out.

[@shriggs55]

@@Remake5182 Sounds like you are being wise in making your decision(s).Keep it up,bro and use caution.

[@rogerroger5649]

@@Remake5182 Wow, you have it MUCH worse than I do. I think you are very wise to wait and even then make sure you are safely in a place where you can't be threatened. Best of luck to you.

[@rogerroger5649]

Didn't expect the replies, thanks! I live in the bible belt so it's nice to know you're not by yourself because some times it can get kind of depressing.

[@SchiwiM]

Jesus could claim everything he wants, that does not mean anyone has to believe him and his ridiculous claims. That christian video is hilarious and the irony smells strongly

[@bdf2718]

That's a sign your irony is overheating. Get the thermostat checked. If you don't, you'll end up burning your shirty.

[@fred_derf]

Jesus didn't claim anything. Anonymous writers claimed he claimed things, and they made those claims decades after Jesus supposedly existed. Decades in a world where speaking out against those in power or their beliefs could get you killed, where 99+% of the population was illiterate, there was no publishing industry, there was no system of peer review, no photographic or other forms of objective record keeping -- just stories passed down by word of mouth, generation to generation.

[@hyenacub]

"ARE YOU TOLERANT QUIZ IN PARENTHESES!" That's cracking me up and I don't know why. Damn, that video is incredibly condescending and arrogant.

[@TheBeatle49]

Unfortunately some people do have the characteristics assigned to the straw men. My ex-wife insisted that there was no "right or wrong" and then insisted she was "right."

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

I am late. To be fair, I watched video about space whaler and bio ships.

[@ProphetofZod]

That sounds pretty fair. :D

[@Phreemunny]

Gleb Strelets -Isaac Arthur is awesome!

[@dieseljester3466]

Godless Engineer?

[@tctheunbeliever]

"You can decide to believe whatever you want." What a clumsy way to slip in the idea that you can choose what you believe.

[@bdf2718]

It's strange. No matter how hard I try to believe that I can believe whatever I want, I just don't believe it. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough.

[@tkat6442]

I would like to believe that my bank account will never run out of money, no matter what, and I am highly motivated to really want to believe it. I guess my faith is just too weak.

[@mollykoi9766]

“Oh my rhetorical and nonexistent god” made me wheeze 😆🙌🏻 this video is new realms of roller coaster and everything I hated about being fundamentalist Christian.

[@WadelDee]

My philosophy teacher taught me that all philosophical questions are ultimately unanswerable because you can never know for sure and that therefore, there is no right or wrong. This includes the question of whether something can be known with absolute certainty. He also taught me that being absolutely sure that nothing can be known with absolute certainty is a paradox in itself and that it automatically disqualifies you from making any absolute truth statements about anything else. But rather than concluding that there must therefore be things that can be known with absolute certainty, he merely said that this is a problem worth thinking about.

[@aaronbredon2948]

So he taught you that philosophy is pointless. It cannot resolve anything. And to counter him... I am absolutely certain that either something can be known with absolute certainty or that nothing can be known with absolute certainty. Since either X must be true or NOT X must be true, X OR NOT X must always be true. And since I can know that with absolute certainty, then it is possible to know something with absolute certainty. In the fields of logic and math one can make statements with absolute certainty. Of course he might reply with "but afudei fygffuh jhvh dgtyc" proving that language can be used as a barrier to avoid losing philosophical debates.

[@elegantoddity8609]

@@aaronbredon2948 Maybe it can't. Maybe the law of identity isn't real and things can be both true and not true at the same time? Ultimately we all establish axioms that are by their nature baseless, and we accept this fundamental not knowingness because we aren't going to get anywhere if we keep prefacing statements with "assuming it's possible to understand reality"

[@aaronbredon2948]

@@elegantoddity8609 if neither or both of X and NOT X can be true at the same time, then we can never know anything at all. Given the amount of observations humanity has made, and that we have never observed any case where X and NOT X are both true or both false at the same time, we can pretty reliably state that it is nearly impossible to observe such a contradiction. Although Quantum Mechanics does allow a quantum wave function to be in multiple states at the same time, any interaction leaves only 1 state behind. Thus for all intents and purposes, it is impossible for X and NOT X to have the same truth value.

[@elegantoddity8609]

@@aaronbredon2948 Yet we can't know with 100% certainty, can we? Hence the issue previously stated. We collectively agree to make the fundamental assumption that reality is real and we can understand things about it and go from there.

[@aaronbredon2948]

@@elegantoddity8609 science never claims to know a positive claim with 100% certainty. But we have reached 99.999999999999999999999...% on the laws of logic. If any of the premises of the laws of logic are inverted, then we can prove a contradiction, and being able to prove a contradiction means that nothing can be concluded. If it is possible for both X and NOT X to be true at the same time, then it is not possible to construct a system of logic that is not self contradictory. You would wind up with things like: God exists therefore God does not exist.

[@andrewenderfrost8161]

I’ve been reading a lot about rationality by authors like Richard Feynman, and the first few second about Christians having the narrow truth feel like I’m in a bizzaro world

[@cliftongaither6642]

hey Prohet of Zod , you had quoted who's on first . that's awesome. i totally forgot about Abbott and Costello. i had that who's on first act on 8 track when i was a kid back in the 70's .

[@kenchristiansen2080]

I need a demonstration that a person can choose their beliefs lol.

[@boterlettersukkel]

Ok.. I'm an atheist. I was born an atheist and chose not to fall in the religion trap.

[@darkstarr984]

I attempted the thing that supposedly made Descartes came up with “I think, therefore I am.” It was hard to do and ended in the same failure for me, convincing me I exist. So I’d say it’s not possible to believe *anything* you choose to.

[@joshuadouma999]

"Oh my rhetorical and non-existent god!" What a gem of a euphemism, hahaha!

[@bradypustridactylus488]

The hippie desktop-yoga professor seems to be a caricature of a post-modernist. To the degree I remember what post-modernism is, it is the position that the sum of reality is a social construction and that what we hold as truth is filtered through the social narratives that structure our understanding of the world. Therefore, there is no objective truth. In contrast to this, there is the view that reality completely overarches our perception and that what we call knowledge is the successful attempt to reconcile the conceptual with the actual. Whenever these low-brow theologians try to define their belief system in regard to these competing views, all I see is obtuseness, vacillation, and equivocation. It is like a poorly wired circuit filled with so many shorted connections it becomes impossible to determine which bulbs are lit, which are flickering, and which are burnt out.

[@agimasoschandir]

Does that include fries with that?

[@lordsrednuas]

Arrrrgh! My brain hurts! Who wrote that script?! Even Christians should find this video terrible at it's intended goal. How unprepared would any Christian using this video as a template be for any conversations?

[@weldabar]

I love the phrase, "persecution fantasy."

[@hughmongoose8966]

11:04 That building to the left of the mosque is an Orthodox Church. Why is it included in the buildings that aren’t Christian? I guess they’re those “If you’re not a Prostestant, you’re not a true Christian” kind of people.

[@Random25.]

When he said is it absolutely true that there's no absolute truth even though his face was blurred I could see his expression.

[@fredriksundberg4624]

Will Carrol : It's tjus the standard MO/SOP Sye Ten Bruggencate wordsalad, doubletalk.

[@erinidum]

I was taught the "are you absolutely sure there's no such thing as absolute truth" argument in my grade 12 apologetics class and I was *constantly* chomping at the bit, waiting for someone to claim that there's no absolute truth because oh boy! was I ready with a comeback! ...That moment never came. Because it turns out no one actually thinks that way. Also, surprise 18-year-old me: you're an atheist now!

[@avionpiscean33]

Owww. This video you're responding to hurts to watch.

[@puppetmaster926]

All i heard in the cartoon portion was meaningless word salad. I guess baffle them with bullshit can work on anyone.

[@russkuksin8782]

That video seems to be an intentional weapon grade facepalm.

[@justinhart2831]

Thank you, PoZ, for pulling apart this philosophical ball of yarn.

[@sharewolf10173]

I have 7 christians in my (close) family. And I can't find 2 that believe in the same things. They go to 4 different churchs . The only truth I have found is that they have all agreed to not talk about it to look united. My mother told me once that she cries some nights because She and her church are the only ones getting into heaven. And none of her family go to her church. But it's ok, cuz Jesus will take that pain away when she gets there.

[@WWZenaDo]

Also funny that Impact 360's theme can sound phonetically like " *NO* Believe".

[@sharonsmith1203]

Favorite part of the video: "Does your doctor tell you that you will burn in hell for all eternity unless you nail me on a cross and leave me there until I die."16:10

[@matheusrodrigues7921]

I almost had an aneurysm trying to watch that quiz video. It seriously hurt. I find it sad when I try to to point out obvious straw man like these when they come trying to convert and they just ignore it.

[@BionicDance]

I tolerate your unbelief of a god I think is fictional. _...FEEL HONORED!!!_

[@Hoffman-Creations]

Mushroom munching wooks are the ones that most often believe in that we make our own reality we make around truth premise. Sometimes but not always there little more than high school educated, sometimes they believe are well educated as well. I believe it is the experience that people have more than their education level, however when you choose to not to believe things before you can find good reasons those beliefs can fall out the window quite rapidly, whether you’re high school educated or college grad. But very often the requirement is to go find look for irrefutable supporting evidence.

[@Lupinemancer87]

"Do We Get Offended Because Christians Believe in Truth? No, no we don't. So once they actually learns the truth, it'll be fine.

[@drewstillexists]

Can I get a "People should not express their personal beliefs" shirt?

[@clemstevenson]

Church leaders love to use the word 'truth', because it sounds so much better than “gosh, we can't even prove that this biblical stuff is valid”. By making the meaningless claim that the writings were 1st century, the Christian claimant is avoiding the obvious fact that encompassing an entire 100-year period is on a par with the Texas sharpshooter fallacy. Unsurprisingly, irrational Flat Earther claims (which are connected to literal bible interpretations), such as atmospheric pressure does not exist, because 'sky dome', are also of no provable value.

[@ProphetofZod]

Yeah, it's super weird that they think something being written ONLY decades after something happens is an amazing sign of reliability.

[@clemstevenson]

What's even more amazing is that so many people, over many generations, have swallowed these claims as though they were unquestionably accurate. They can't even prove that this Jesus Christ character even existed, so how is it possible to unquestioningly accept the claims about his words and deeds?

[@iangrau-fay592]

@@ProphetofZod I'm reminded of Sam Harris' comparing a late Hindu charlatan (Satya Sai Baba I believe?) He said basically how it was fascinating that myths from a time period when the wheel barrow was an emergent technology became so compelling a majority of the population feels required to organize their lives around them.

[@bdf2718]

@@ProphetofZod They are ignorant of their own book and their own history. A big factor in the split between the Western (Catholic) Church and the Eastern (Orthodox) Church was the discrepancies between John and the Synoptics. The most glaring of which is when the Last Supper took place. And those are only a small fraction of the internal contradictions.

[@ZackMaddox-gd1zk]

0:31 is the loudest I’ve ever heard POZ speak. I didn’t know this man has the physical ability to shout. 😂😂😂

[@MrLazEBones]

This was so intellectually dishonest I couldn't finish the video, even with you interrupting them, it just hurt too much . How did you manage to edit this video without going into a coma?

[@leojaksic8372]

Reminds me of that "logical proofs Christianity is true" video that I kept seeing on Facebook. I believe only Viced Rhino responded to it. Wish I could give it a piece of my mind, but sadly I lack the equipment to do so.

[@gatorboymike]

This video be like, "What? You have a problem with me eating nuclear waste? Here's five minutes of infantile, pedantic, solipsistic rambling about how eating is a positive thing."

[@KnakuanaRka]

The problem is not everything is good to eat!👄🧶🦇🐚🎾💿🔋🛢💣🧪📌➡️💀☠️👻

[@jazzpear8877]

This version of the Zod theme song is such a bop

[@StrikerEureka13]

Seriously the best KZbin theme song I have heard

[@fairybliss7772]

I don’t care what people believe. As long as my life is not affected negatively. Religious people aim to affect my life and it’s not ok

[@jarjarbinks4243]

The sad part is that explaining what truth is has become necessary towards college students or they can think everyone has their own "truth" misrepresenting definitions yes we need to explain opinions vs truth vs lies to them

[@ShikataGaNai100]

"I am the way." - Jesus "I am Jesus." - Kanye West "I am the Minister of Silly Walks." - John Cleese

[@Nixeu42]

I feel like I need to make the obligatory "2+2=5 for sufficiently high values of 2" joke. Also, mathematical truths like that aren't actually absolutes, they're dependent on things like what base you're using and rounding. And they only work with abstractions. For example, combining two protons in the stellar fusion process makes a positron, a neutrino, and deuterium.

[@Arlondev]

How this conversation would actually go: "So you're an atheist?" "Yeah." "Is it absolutely true that nothing is absolutely true? Is it right that you are wrong about me being right about the fact that i am right and you are wrong? How does the-" "There has never been any evidence presented for any claim about any god in the history of theology" "Is it- I- Uh- Oh! My ride's here!" *Runs and jumps out of the nearest 7th-story window and scampers into the nearest alleyway*

[@sussekind9717]

So, a parkour theist, or Spiderman?😜

[@wolfwing1]

well where I think they run into, "isn't it closed minded to think your true." comes from, "Well Chrsitianity is true therefore all laws and things should be based upon our beliefs." plus for non atheist non christian, saying, "They are the only way to the truth." is offensive to say a bhudist, or muslim, or other religion, not something a atheist would say, but definetly something other religious people have issue with, especially those that arn't the, "Were the only right religion." types.

[@calvinhobbes3708]

It’s a fact that this is POZs’ favorite comment, because reasons

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

the name "impact 360 institute" just sounds like they're describing a roundhouse kick.

[@MarcColten-us2pl]

Roadhouse

[@jayleneellis9308]

5:05, okay you say that it's true. How did you come to that conclusion? ... I agree facts are facts, but how do you tell facts from fiction/lies?

[@StixFerryMan]

Wow. This is quite prophetic on the out look of many modern day collage students.

[@coldloyalty]

You should do "why does theology matter" And your response "It doesn't" (Roll credits)

[@silg7262]

The study of religion is actually important.

[@coldloyalty]

@@silg7262 I would argue that it isn't. In fact Religion has been one of the most detrimental aspects of human history. People have committed the worst atrocities under the evocation of religious deities, doctrine, and cults. That is also not paying attention to the fact that it disregards critical thinking and deflects criticism

[@silg7262]

@@coldloyalty that's why studying religion is important. It's important to study detrimental things so that we can see how it happened and prevent it from happening again.

[@bdf2718]

@@silg7262 Yeah, like aviation crashes. We don't study them because we think they're good things. We study them so we can learn how to prevent them happening again. Then again, outside of STEM subjects, we're not so good at learning from the past. Events in the 1940s ought to have taught everyone that fascism is a bad thing, but it's on the rise again.

[@silg7262]

@@bdf2718 exactly! Also it's useful insight into how the human mind works

[@NeilThe604Atheist]

I put my head through a wooden door when I was living in Israel at the school dorm. The guy that came to fix it said he didn't believe us (my roommates) when we told him how it happened, so I did it again. Probably why I can't remember anything anymore. 😜

[@NeilThe604Atheist]

Well... except for that story.

[@simongiles9749]

I would say that the statement "I am The Way" is neither true not false, because it's so vague and meaningless as to be unfalsifiable. "I am The Captialised Noun". Well, that sounds deep. Must mean something, right?

[@brettknoss486]

I am the Walrus

[@arcanineryu]

Man, can really hear the longing in those people for the time periods where literacy was primarily the domain of Christians because it was the only readily available book available to those poor communities. So having actually read a book, any book, was some kind of flex on the other people in their community that made them look smarter. Nowadays, literally everyone has read a book. And they don't get to feel so special anymore.

[@furryskeptic5456]

I can't stand either of those characters in the video, lol. Except you, Zod. :D

[@ProphetofZod]

Yeah, they'd both be pretty intolerably stupid.

[@hassansyed5036]

I’m intolerant of conservatism and proud.

[@theosib]

It would be even funnier if it were ARE YOU TOLERANT SPACE COMMA.

[@ProphetofZod]

Hahaha! Yep! :D

[@sbushido5547]

Space comma is spreading?

[@andrewstoddard6717]

,.

[@ianbabineau5340]

You said “omg if you say ‘is it absolutely true that there is no absolute truth?’” And then a fiery explosion engulfed the screen (video game advertisement). Beautiful timing.

[@hotshotjcb3798]

The more I watch these videos, the more embarrassed I feel that it took me 30 years to finally leave this garbage behind.

[@exmormonroverpaula2319]

Me too. I occasionally attend Mormon services with my family. I find it hard to keep from laughing. How did it take me so long to realize this was complete BS?

[@LogicAndReason2025]

The desperate contortions of apologists, gives their insecurity away.

[@markhackett2302]

2+2=4 is the inevitable consequence of an agreement about the number series and the operators + and =. The basic operations and values are agreements. This is different from theism in that nobody has any agreement about what god is, does or has. Nor how it operates. If at all.

[@SnakeMan448]

Why is it that such Christians feel that, when challenged on their claims that they tout as true, just double down and use blatantly dishonest and deceitful tactics?

[@unglaubiger5645]

16:30 Oh dear prophet, you missed something. You can´t simply decide to believe what you want. Either you´re convinced of something or you´re not. You can get convinced through good or bad reasons, but you can´t decide that you will be convinced of something from now on. Another way is lying to yourself until you believe it.

[@Cat_Woods]

Thank you for taking the time to rebut this garbage. So exasperating.They're like some 12-year-old who figured out a joke and keeps saying the same punchline over and over again. It's an absolute truth that I am intolerant of this. Amazed that you stay so calm through these things. The one thing it would be good for is treating low blood pressure.

[@ToonamiT0M]

Christianity is true. I know this because only a true religion would feel the need to openly and constantly lie about their own teachings and the positions of the opposition. Truth can only be obtained through lies about the truth's lies of truth. Amen.

[@RocketVet]

My favorite video of yours I’ve watched so far! ❤ spot on spot on spot on!

[@d.l.7416]

14:37 "I am da wei" - Jesus

[@VicariousReality7]

Belief is an act of dishonest desperation. I pity them.