Do We Have Free Will?

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@yassinee.
@yassinee. 4 жыл бұрын
*casually having an existential crisis while playing Minecraft*
@theunluckypotato1484
@theunluckypotato1484 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh 4 жыл бұрын
This comment made me laugh have a nice day
@Camreeyan
@Camreeyan 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@eddiemc2723
@eddiemc2723 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever is supposed to control me is AFK.
@imja_
@imja_ 4 жыл бұрын
They are AFK when we sleep
@18idlesuggest
@18idlesuggest 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the guy controlling me is just messing around
@yourmomfat
@yourmomfat 4 жыл бұрын
The guy controlling me is really going for joke run at this point.
@thestovietunion790
@thestovietunion790 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is a speedrunne
@kaijoe2216
@kaijoe2216 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Eddie!
@wingedtigress9752
@wingedtigress9752 4 жыл бұрын
It’s concepts like this that make me go mad. And it’s terrifyingly exhilarating
@alteredbeast192
@alteredbeast192 4 жыл бұрын
yeah id love to hear him talk about roko's basilisk
@rainespiano
@rainespiano 4 жыл бұрын
obamer what’s that?
@RandomVideosRVcubing
@RandomVideosRVcubing 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Stevens made a video on this topic in his mind field series, I would REALLY recommend it.
@Jake-rm4be
@Jake-rm4be 4 жыл бұрын
Random Videos / RV do you mean Vsauce?
@Jake-rm4be
@Jake-rm4be 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry bout it
@prismoth
@prismoth 4 жыл бұрын
"you being the only atual real person and everyone being false" then what about false?
@OkutaJager
@OkutaJager 4 жыл бұрын
it's big brain time
@isramubashar5080
@isramubashar5080 4 жыл бұрын
Uhhh She stays the same
@jed4110
@jed4110 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@isramubashar5080
@isramubashar5080 4 жыл бұрын
@RSGJ - she's a cam account, not a real person
@Mazoreo
@Mazoreo 4 жыл бұрын
everyone else is just falsesymmetry in disguise
@TurtleMaster326
@TurtleMaster326 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, he knows too much! Time to reset the game! Better luck next time
@theunluckypotato1484
@theunluckypotato1484 4 жыл бұрын
Darnit I just leveled up my character, Grian!
@tai1ynn471
@tai1ynn471 4 жыл бұрын
@@theunluckypotato1484 Yeah, my Iskall85 character was trying to finish his omega tree of doom! (Idk the exact thing he calls it -w-")
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh 4 жыл бұрын
@@tai1ynn471 Hate when that happens. But who was playing X?
@pipodrankje
@pipodrankje 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh Someone who thinks that he/she is controlling X while in reality they are being controlled themselves
@randomo599
@randomo599 4 жыл бұрын
ok good ive been experiencing glitches everywhere. NPCs arent loading when i go outside
@louisvalencia5244
@louisvalencia5244 4 жыл бұрын
I love how deeper X's talks are becoming.
@oliverworley5162
@oliverworley5162 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I never thought I'd prefer listening to a Minecrafter over some philosopher when Reguarding philosophy, and it's not because the philosophers are stupid or I disagree with them, it's more like I can relate to xisuma so much in the way that he talks, that even if I disagree with him I can listen to him for hours, I wish he had more content to listen to though, but that's aski g for too much
@NameName-lv1ik
@NameName-lv1ik 4 жыл бұрын
1:15 "Solipsism is the idea of you being the only real person and everybody else being false." False: **confused screaming**
@terra2ban
@terra2ban 4 жыл бұрын
Laplace’s demon follows this: If a being has infinite computing power, and knew the position and velocity of each and every particle in existence, then it can predict the future perfectly
@chiefdvm1671
@chiefdvm1671 4 жыл бұрын
Yup you are correct.
@jasperelsley4919
@jasperelsley4919 4 жыл бұрын
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle disallows that
@uniquename6925
@uniquename6925 4 жыл бұрын
And yet it is impossible to know both the position and velocity of a particle.
@masonjones7777
@masonjones7777 4 жыл бұрын
@kashimacoated that would only be possible if the theoretical demon knows how to make infinitesimally small plots, but as the saying goes "once you allow infinity, the answer is yes"
@sandwich2473
@sandwich2473 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasperelsley4919/videos That's what xisuma was talking about. Maybe there's some stuff we just haven't figured out yet that's prohibiting us from getting it. For example, in order to accept quantum physics as it stands today, you have to assume that adding all of the infinite numbers together will equal -1/12. I don't buy that for a second, that's just a bodge job that we've put in place that kind of works if you fudge things about a little. I have almost no knowledge about all this stuff, but I don't think the brightest minds in the field have any real clue about the scope of it all. There might be some kind of fundamental thingy that, when we figure it out, it'll have a knock-on effect that makes our understanding of everything just that little bit clearer. Though, to be fair, if we could overcome that, then we could potentially end up with limitless power which I don't think will ever happen.
@Rocket-pr5sr
@Rocket-pr5sr 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine there being a humancraft server with 7 bilion players
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could customize my body lol
@ezijo.5155
@ezijo.5155 4 жыл бұрын
then who are the admins?
@lilapela
@lilapela 4 жыл бұрын
Actually 8 billion. Were gonna have to get used to saying that number instrad of 7 billion from now on. Wow the population is growing fast
@harleyokeefe5193
@harleyokeefe5193 4 жыл бұрын
Ezijo . God
@harleyokeefe5193
@harleyokeefe5193 4 жыл бұрын
no yes no we are still on 7.5 billion lol
@jtannock4
@jtannock4 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel because sometimes it's like "fitness! fun things!" and other times it's like "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE TOMORROW"
@acek2016
@acek2016 4 жыл бұрын
I love xisumasays, X seems like such an amazing and smart person!
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh
@jdgfshdjfkakahdkshfhdjdh 4 жыл бұрын
X *is* a smart and amazing person
@eddiemc2723
@eddiemc2723 4 жыл бұрын
Mainly wise.
@vishalbhat8602
@vishalbhat8602 4 жыл бұрын
X is amazing and mysterious at the same time
@oliverworley5162
@oliverworley5162 4 жыл бұрын
He's relatable, I don't agree with him on some things, I agree on others, but he's coming at these ideas from the same perspective as me so it's great
@arctu_
@arctu_ 4 жыл бұрын
He is your step dad
@underthepeachtree88
@underthepeachtree88 4 жыл бұрын
“Yeah man look at all the sheepeople “ I literally burst out laughing 😂
@hernanfuriasse3055
@hernanfuriasse3055 4 жыл бұрын
4:21 I'm studying physics, but i didn't get to quantum mechanics yet, so this is only an (maybe erroneus) opinion, based only on some stuff i've been reading: As far as i understand, the "probability nature" of QM arises from the uncertainty principle (also known as Heisenberg principle). It's not the capability of prediction what fails, but the capability of perfect measurement... If you'd know ,perfectly, the initial state of a system you'd (maybe) be capable of computing the future states of the system, but acording to the UP, knowing the initial state of a system with perfect accuracy is (in principle) impossible. If this also aplies to the Laplace's demon, then the demon shouldn't have the capability of perfect prediction. Now, i don't know what happens down there at those scales, but the fact that we can't predict exactly the behavior of a system, doesn't mean its not deterministic, it means that the capability of exact prediction is forbidden to us. (again, if i understand it correctly) So maybe, free will can exist, maybe it can't... idk. The next quote is taken from the book i've been reading: QUANTUM PHYSICS of Atoms, Molecules, Solids,Nuclei, and Particles. by Eisberg, Resnick. (2nd ed, page 78) "The uncertainty principle also makes it clear that the mechanics of quantum systems must necessarily be expressed in terms of probabilities. In classical mechanics, if at any instant we know exactly the position and momentum of each particle in an isolated system, then we can predict the exact behavior of the particles of the system for all future time. In quantum mechanics, however, the uncertainty principle shows us that it is impossible to do this for systems involving small distances and momenta because it is impossible to know, with the required accuracy, the instantaneous positions and momenta of the particles. As a result, we shall be able to make predictions only of the probable behavior of these particles." thanks for reading, sorry if this is nonsense.
@keithgarner2759
@keithgarner2759 4 жыл бұрын
From I what get, if you have perfect knowledge you will be able to predict something,but it is impossible to have perfect knowledge
@britishtf2
@britishtf2 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The HUS makes it so that we have to express wave functions as superpositions of its possible functions. This means we can get expected values that aren't actually possible values to obtain, for example. When observed, these superpostions collapse into the single state it exists in.
@hernanfuriasse3055
@hernanfuriasse3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@keithgarner2759 i think the same!
@hernanfuriasse3055
@hernanfuriasse3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@britishtf2 Sick! I'm really looking forward to learn QM!
@slythia863
@slythia863 4 жыл бұрын
While I have finished my degree in physics it’s been a while since I touched quantum mechanics. But yes I agree the uncertainty principle basically states you cannot precisely measure the position and momentum of a particle. You can narrow down the range the particle is in but that reduces the probability the particle exists within that range. Of course you can find a range the particle is likely within and find a range of momentum the particle is experiencing. However once you isolate the location of a particle perfectly, the wave function describing the particle’s position and momentum collapses into a delta function leaving only the position of the particle and an infinite range of momentum.
@rustyshackleford5166
@rustyshackleford5166 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me think of not only time travel but also the Replay mod. It captures everything and it's position and it's instance in an animation. It captures everything that happens in the loaded chunks and can recite it perfectly and, bc it's recorded, can be predicted perfectly bc it has already recorded what's going to happen. What if life was a recital of some vast replay mod?
@onionbot2
@onionbot2 4 жыл бұрын
**puts on tinfoil hat**
@noodel3374
@noodel3374 4 жыл бұрын
the wise man-bee has blown my mind ... xD
@Tunde444
@Tunde444 4 жыл бұрын
First time?
@blockoftrash
@blockoftrash 4 жыл бұрын
All praise the almighty bee
@Laittth
@Laittth 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine just discovering Xisuma says and the first video you see is about your favourite Minecraft KZbinr questioning if they have free will.
@mastermineman2551
@mastermineman2551 4 жыл бұрын
When I subscribed I did not expect to discuss this.(then again i didn’t think X would talk about being radical or racist but here we are)
@penelope563
@penelope563 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. But I'm very glad he did.
@nevreiha
@nevreiha 4 жыл бұрын
If your personality is based on your surroundings and experiences then that does as it does and causes you to react to the predetermined event in a certain way
@HermitFanimations
@HermitFanimations 4 жыл бұрын
Excited to listen to this one :D
@_Pike
@_Pike 4 жыл бұрын
Be quiet, Stan.
@zegel9580
@zegel9580 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Pike LAARRRYYYYYY!!!!!
@brillphil1234
@brillphil1234 4 жыл бұрын
Bananas
@diogonunes1608
@diogonunes1608 2 жыл бұрын
Wise Xisuma vs young Xisuma sharing thoughts: 6:01-6:49 vs 7:01-7:10
@C.Kado18
@C.Kado18 4 жыл бұрын
Man it feels weird listening to a KZbinr I used to just watch for fun as a child basically now talking about topics that have peaked my interest as an adult or apply to my life.
@chiefdvm1671
@chiefdvm1671 4 жыл бұрын
Now X feels old
@Noodlezz95
@Noodlezz95 4 жыл бұрын
this channel had certainly grown too hasn't it
@Heisenberg-so9vj
@Heisenberg-so9vj 4 жыл бұрын
Yes me too
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, isn't it?
@C.Kado18
@C.Kado18 4 жыл бұрын
@@NStripleseven yeah certainly is in a way to see the growth, I'm in a place I'd never thought I'd be, but also terrifying at the same time.
@onionbot2
@onionbot2 4 жыл бұрын
‘hokey-pokey woo-de-woo stuff’ -xisuma
@AHarmlessAnt
@AHarmlessAnt 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer, we have free will.
@michaelmiller2418
@michaelmiller2418 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the concept of Determinism. Undertale delved into that pretty well!
@Dooby_Wooby
@Dooby_Wooby 4 жыл бұрын
And Deltarune did the exact opposite
@theunluckypotato1484
@theunluckypotato1484 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that's why I love the game so much but at the same time I also love Deltarune
@wingedtigress9752
@wingedtigress9752 4 жыл бұрын
Both are wonderful games :3
@ilke3192
@ilke3192 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I think it is the opposite. Deltarune is more deterministic, because your decisions don't affect the consequences.
@TwistedF2
@TwistedF2 4 жыл бұрын
Love how the chat makes you start a conversation in a stream. Awesome vid!
@CraftyMasterman
@CraftyMasterman 4 жыл бұрын
so if you're codecrafted and made minecraft in minecraft and if life is minecraft you have minecraft in minecraft in minecraft
@wbg8754
@wbg8754 4 жыл бұрын
w u t
@rekrap2
@rekrap2 4 жыл бұрын
X I just have to say that these things are amazing! would you consider making a podcast? I think you could execute it very well. Just and idea though. Keep it up! I'll listen to anything you make. It's really inspiring and makes me want to do similar things
@prismoth
@prismoth 4 жыл бұрын
thanks, xisuma, i'm probably not gonna sleep tonight
@stafey7659
@stafey7659 4 жыл бұрын
Me either
@horribleperson9531
@horribleperson9531 4 жыл бұрын
I was probably not gonna sleep annyway
@Γιώργος-ε3τ
@Γιώργος-ε3τ 4 жыл бұрын
This the 'you make a joke and your mom turns it into a lecture' in a nutshell I loved this one and this is still a question running in my head
@ossifyn3221
@ossifyn3221 4 жыл бұрын
Your save points are the fridge when you walk up to it, stare blankly, and then leave
@BlueStar5077
@BlueStar5077 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of these ideas are things I thought of. Like me being the only proven conscious person, and the idea that we don't make any of our own decisions as they are caused by other predictable things.
@zea_64
@zea_64 4 жыл бұрын
Quantum mechanics being probabilistic (even if that doesn't have much of an effect) combined with chaos theory would mean the universe is not deterministic. This also seems to match up with the second law of thermodynamics (entropy always increases). Even so, that doesn't necessarily mean you have free will and even if you did, probably not to the extent that you feel you do since quantum effects are tiny compared to the (mostly) determinism of chemistry that governs your brain.
@infinidoge
@infinidoge 4 жыл бұрын
On the topic of physics and quantum mechanics, there is this amazing book (imo) called _The Elegant Universe_, and it discusses the conflict between classical and quantum physics, but mainly about Superstring theory which can, in theory, unite them
@ohneev
@ohneev 4 жыл бұрын
Your video about racism helped me complete my English project where we had to write about the social evils depicted in the poem 'The Cold Within'. I watched it with my mother and she shared it to my friends. Thank you so much. P.S. I can now watch hermitcraft more often XD.
@booshboi8022
@booshboi8022 4 жыл бұрын
I was there in the stream, and it amazes me too say that this isn't the deepest thing we've gone into
@hikarisensei4030
@hikarisensei4030 4 жыл бұрын
This is the topics that I want to talk about... that's why I love this channel
@vesuvius00
@vesuvius00 4 жыл бұрын
These videos really make me wish I caught the streams when they were actually happening. This is a really interesting topic! The idea of Solipsism reminds me of the ideas of like, how in children's psychology we learned as we grew up that things continue to exist even if we can't see them, we also learn over time that we are not the only conscious/real person too? I forget the actual base for it but it's like, we eventually realize that everyone else has their own internal life just as complex as our own. I think the word might be "sonder"?
@Kasaye1
@Kasaye1 4 жыл бұрын
i just love how xisuma's livestream are so calm and i listen to them while working
@lak395
@lak395 4 жыл бұрын
"So these particles, you know all their positions and understand their momentum, so then..." Wait. What have you done, X?
@supreme-oats
@supreme-oats 4 жыл бұрын
I believe we could very well be living in a deterministic universe, where even if we restart it, everything will play out in the same way. However on everyday level, it actually doesn't matter if there is or isn't free will, and even if it is deterministic universe, we should live as if we have free will. ...OR I'm just in the "smart teen" phase and what I said was random mumbo jumbo
@uuuu6590
@uuuu6590 4 жыл бұрын
5:50 another good example is entropy. Supposedly, all states of energy distribution in mass are equally probable, in other words: random. Yet there is a tendency for it to equilibrate
@dionemoolman
@dionemoolman 4 жыл бұрын
I love Xisuma just casually talking about Philosophy in his streams.
@that1guy910
@that1guy910 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh if someone was controlling my life then they must be bored af
@hillcitian
@hillcitian 4 жыл бұрын
Same tbh
@gingerrik1422
@gingerrik1422 4 жыл бұрын
I mean you are watching X so im sure God is ammused lol
@that1guy910
@that1guy910 4 жыл бұрын
@@gingerrik1422 lol well the person controlling me (and me) would be not bored then lol (this is confusing lol)
@Jack93885
@Jack93885 4 жыл бұрын
If deep discussion like what I've seen on this channel is a regular part of your stream, I better start tuning in
@shasha_5829
@shasha_5829 4 жыл бұрын
so Im not the only madman...
@tomare
@tomare 4 жыл бұрын
Tons of existential crisis-es
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 4 жыл бұрын
Da Slica but are they yours?
@ee5142
@ee5142 4 жыл бұрын
Did you also think of all of these without knowing the names?
@the_real_lego_commander_cody
@the_real_lego_commander_cody 4 жыл бұрын
jingyu byun i think of tons of things and then eventually find out what it’s called
@zaptigergaming464
@zaptigergaming464 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks X u are a very wise man
@maxxysitlhou6266
@maxxysitlhou6266 4 жыл бұрын
That topic has been nagging my mind since childhood
@mattburns7597
@mattburns7597 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else, for a moment, think this said 'Lapdancing Demon'?
@212Assain
@212Assain 4 жыл бұрын
didnt like thinkin about this one. good video
@Scott-J
@Scott-J 4 жыл бұрын
I used to be a determinist. It is a natural conclusion when you study Newtonian mechanics. Heisenberg Uncertainty breaks determinism. It is an elegant expression of how particles are not billiard balls. The short version is that if you measure a particle's position and momentum, there is a minimum amount of uncertainty in those measurements. It's not a practical limit to the measurement, it is that the thing you are measuring does not have a perfect measurement. "Why", is a third year undergrad class in modern physics and two years of multi-variable calculus. Regarding the Demon, it cannot perfectly know the position and movement of any particle and thus cannot make a 100% accurate prediction of future states. Thus, free will. The future is undecided and undesigned.
@quiroid4803
@quiroid4803 4 жыл бұрын
Getting into quantum mechanics breaks determinism in that there won't be only way things will happen. As you say in the video, nothing is random, it's defined by probabilities, perfectly defined by probabilities. Knowing this, you can reinterpret determinism as just having multiple paths where some are more probable by others.
@peteroslington5196
@peteroslington5196 4 жыл бұрын
I think one key thing that is important in quantum mechanics is the difference between randomness vs uncertainty. There is limits to how much we can know, but that doesn't inherently cause randomness.
@rustyshackleford5166
@rustyshackleford5166 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin's compression hit this video pretty hard. My eyes turtled into my skull. Lol
@lucankeyser2111
@lucankeyser2111 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Carrol explains this really well in his podcast "The Biggest Ideas in the Universe"
@kemalsorucuoglu3689
@kemalsorucuoglu3689 4 жыл бұрын
We need to define what free will is before asking these questions
@trueposeidon4850
@trueposeidon4850 4 жыл бұрын
Recently I'm studying the behaviour of materials, using quantum mechanics, and it really shows how difficult it is to define deterministically also the simplest things, so I rely on approximations. It seems like when we get older and "wiser", we get to understand that complete knowledge of nature is too complex and we can just be satisfied with things that work well enough. This may be existentially worrying, but it's good to have a place where people talk about these things
@prismoth
@prismoth 4 жыл бұрын
this is the plot of the matrix
@ethanalienx
@ethanalienx 4 жыл бұрын
I was starting to type this comment but I then you started talking about this stuff, glad I waited until the end of the video. "The most significant argument against Laplace's Demon in determinism is the laws that involve probability - some certain things are truly unknown and random." Like you said, randomness isn't completely random but it's more like probability, and things that are truly up to the flip of a coin happen at very low levels.
@Samuel__H
@Samuel__H 4 жыл бұрын
The best argument for free will I've heard starts with Laplace's demon as Xisuma explained with complete scientific knowledge of all the inner workings of the universe at a given time as to be able to calculate all future possible states. The difference is that you have Laplace's demon tell you what your given state at a future point will be. For example one morning it tells you exactly what you will eat at a restaurant at lunch that day. Would not most people immediately want to contradict the demon by eating something different? The issue is the self-referential nature of this thought. It's somewhat similar to the double-slit experiment where the observer effects the system.
@benpalmer1583
@benpalmer1583 4 жыл бұрын
"Are you a solopist too? I''m a solopist" LOL, that is just too funny!
@pp7x79
@pp7x79 4 жыл бұрын
this video proved to me that xisuma is a rather intelligent man. thanks
@DrKvo
@DrKvo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey X. I'm a physicist myself and the discussion of determinism is definitely one of my favourites. Laplace's Demon (named after the French mathematician and physicist Pierre-Simon Laplace [/ləˈplɑːs] ) is a really cool concept, and truly without quantum mechanics our world could operate like that. Classical mechanics (the physics which describes macroscopic objects) is indeed deterministic. If you know all the information about all the particles within a closed system, you can completely model all particle interactions in the future from that one snapshot. What that would look like if you considered our universe to be that closed system, is every thought had, movement made, or word spoke of every person would be predictable through modeling the particle interactions within their brain. Not only that, but you could model relationships, production of children, and the thoughts and actions of that child throughout their entire life too. If our world really was deterministic, free will would entirely be an illusion. However, as you mentioned, once you inject quantum mechanics into the picture, that (to an extent) goes out the window. There is now a probabilistic nature of interactions on the microscopic scale. When does a particle decay? You can't predict the time exactly, but you can describe it with a probability distribution. That decaying particle could then interact with a human's body, causing a cancer. That cancer then effects the world on a macroscopic level. The world is not deterministic, at least not entirely. This then begs the question though, are our thoughts still our own? Or is just a deterministic system with microscopic deviations that obey a probability distribution? Do we really define free will as just some system with slight probability, or is that not actually sufficient? I spend lots of time thinking about this and really, it's up to the interpretation of the reader to say if slight randomness is enough to satisfy the conditions for free will. Regarding the understanding of quantum mechanics, it's true we have much to learn, and I would say in the current state, it is not possible for us to understand quantum mechanics, and those that claim they do likely have much to learn. That being said, I don't foresee an increased understanding of quantum mechanics will lead to a non-probabilistic viewpoint of the microscopic world. Doing so would be a great feat, but I believe we have too much information and experiments pushing it in the other direction.
@Xkazmarx
@Xkazmarx 4 жыл бұрын
Stumbled across Hermitcraft earlier this year, but... during a bathroom deep-clean, my YT autoplay landed me here. Only watched "on bullying" and "personal finance" and this so far, but damn dude. Existential crises and meta-cognition are my jam. Think you might be my new favorite. :) Thanks for being a good man.
@jonahjlee
@jonahjlee 4 жыл бұрын
I believe in determinism in that our brains work like computers, and that anything can be predicted with enough knowledge. But at the same time, I think that we should still do our best to make good decisions because we know that they affect our futures anyways. I know that I shouldn't jump off a cliff because I would die, but because I know that I would never do it.
@marcinkrezoek3439
@marcinkrezoek3439 4 жыл бұрын
I also do belive on determinism. In my opinion knowning every quants properties like their position or momentum, all phisics rules and so on, makes you able to predict every future moment of time. But even the future is predictable, it doesn't mean you are not a creator
@lapeez2277
@lapeez2277 4 жыл бұрын
yea me too
@marcinkrezoek3439
@marcinkrezoek3439 4 жыл бұрын
And I do not understand how it does not fit in uncertainity principle od quantum mechanics. Maybe anyone can explain it to me? Why is not possible for Laplace demon to exists?
@uniquename6925
@uniquename6925 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcinkrezoek3439 the uncertainty principle is a law of the universe. It isn't just difficult to figure out the position and momentum of a particle, it is impossible. One of the conditions for laplaces demon to exist is that it must know the position and velocity of every particle. Which contradicts with our understanding of quantum mechanics. So Heisenberg's uncertainty principle poses a problem for one of the most basic premises of laplaces demon.
@marcinkrezoek3439
@marcinkrezoek3439 4 жыл бұрын
Unique Name But cannot it be that we just have unsufficient knowledge? We as humanity learn more and more about The World, but well, until 20s or 30s (don't remember exactly) we belived that Newton was 100% right about gravity. My point is, that as our knowledge increases, some laws could be recreated as maybe Heisenberg principle. Not totally rejected, but maybe slightly "improved"
@eshaal3406
@eshaal3406 4 жыл бұрын
The wise teacher strikes again :)
@Silacide
@Silacide 4 жыл бұрын
X just explaining the thing i’ve been thinking for years, yeah let’s go
@NYsummertimeCHI
@NYsummertimeCHI 4 жыл бұрын
Randomness is still compatible with determinism if the probability that something occurs is completely determined by the state of the universe before its occurrence. In regards to the different interpretations of quantum mechanics, what you seem to be describing (to me at least) as the one that makes sense to you is the 'hidden variables' hypothesis, but even on this view you could never completely predict the future because the uncertainty principle actually physically prevents anyone from gaining perfect knowledge of the system. I personally find the parallel universe interpretation to be the most convincing, natural and intellectually satisfying. It also is an interpretation in which each of the parallel universes is completely deterministic. On this view the probabilities of QM just describe how likely you are to be in a given universe based on the data you can gather. Sean Carol gives a really good defense of this interpretation.
@anxiety4288
@anxiety4288 4 жыл бұрын
I swear these topics are getting out of hand yet they are so interesting to watch/hear
@vegabotain
@vegabotain 4 жыл бұрын
Randomness did help me a lot on some of my classes as you could explain some wacky results on that XD but yeah, the random side of the universe is confined by laws, and it is very possible that what we call random is just a law we haven't discovered yet :)
@angry4rtichoke646
@angry4rtichoke646 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a principle called Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, which shows that we can’t perfectly know the position and velocity of a particle. It’s not like people don’t have good enough instruments, it’s been derived that it is impossible to know both perfectly. And because of that uncertainty in one or both the position and velocity, I don’t think it makes much sense to imagine being able to look at a time snapshot and predict the next. I might be missing the point? But I guess my stance is we’ll never have (again, not instrumental limits, it’s because observing the particle changes it) all the information Laplace’s demon would, so no exact predicting of the next time step is possible, thus for all we know life will always be random/probabilistic :-)
@audreyl.4876
@audreyl.4876 4 жыл бұрын
X just seems like an interesting person to talk to. I'd love to just ponder things with him.
@Thedevegon
@Thedevegon 4 жыл бұрын
When u use f3,I realize I am learning about quantum machanices from a bee. 5:22
@notcharli3393
@notcharli3393 4 жыл бұрын
This gave me a bigger existential crisis than I thought I was going to have and I don’t know how to feel - well done 👏👏
@formam1022
@formam1022 4 жыл бұрын
I always find it funny that some of my favorite minecraft videos are people talking about deep stuff while playing minecraft
@Anonymous-ct2kg
@Anonymous-ct2kg 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about this and decided that we do make our choices, I mean part of it is I like the idea of free will and if I didn’t have free will that’d make me depressed, but also I really do feel like I have free will and no matter what’s controlling my choices, it still is a part of me.
@RonDe675
@RonDe675 4 жыл бұрын
I think determinism is a great way to take some pressure off yourself. As long as you don't have the mindset that nothing matters, if you actually believe that the outcome is already determined it can make stressful decisions a lot easier to make. Either you will succeed, or u won't, and even though you might not be able to change if u will or not, you can still give it everything you got
@UltraBadass
@UltraBadass 4 жыл бұрын
Free will is not something you know you have, you are allowed to hope that you have it but there's ultimately nothing you can do to prove it to yourself. So just sit back relax and watch the river that is consciousness flow by and make the best out of it. Thanks for making entertainment that is somehow good even tho it's just someone commenting on playing a game
@realtimestatic
@realtimestatic 4 жыл бұрын
I had a discussion with my teacher about this once and if there is no randomness that would mean you could predict everything if you could calculate everything and knew everything in the universe at one moment you knew the entire future. First I thought about if everything is predicted why you should care about anything, but you still decide. The only thing is that what you will decide is predictable but you still have life in your hands. So I think you have free will but it’s predictable
@gresh1134
@gresh1134 4 жыл бұрын
As a philosophy student, I really love conversations like this 😅 I think the line I’ve been taking lately in regards to free will is similar to that of Immanuel Kant - that we do have a free will, but our minds can only conceive of a reality in which causal laws operate. So if the human understanding is applied to everything, it would be just like Laplace’s demon, however, the human understanding doesn’t actually get at the true nature of things and thus can’t comprehend free will. From what little I know of quantum mechanics as well, I think it applies quite well, that the human understanding - our examination of the natural world - somehow “forces” undetermined things into determined things with properties we can comprehend, if that makes sense.
@dargondude2375
@dargondude2375 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds kind of like compatiblism
@Tankej0527
@Tankej0527 4 жыл бұрын
The big bang was physics letting go of a ball at the top pf a slope. Were just germs along for the ride
@kylekirkparick426
@kylekirkparick426 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't think about it too much. Don't forget to choose what you want, and don't be afraid to be selfish sometimes. Only you live your life, and you only get one.
@xzzander20324
@xzzander20324 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos because it’s like an xisuma podcast but with minecraft as a background which is as good as it could be!
@danesorensen7484
@danesorensen7484 4 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking something similar to the demon thought experiment a lot lately. Thank you so much for putting words to it.
@sofeepie
@sofeepie 4 жыл бұрын
It’s always amazing hearing him talking
@alfiemcdonald7475
@alfiemcdonald7475 4 жыл бұрын
The way I see it (and this is also how I counter skepticism) if it appears as if we have free will or that empiricist data can determine things, we might as well go along with it at try and enjoy the world we perceive
@ytcommenter8156
@ytcommenter8156 4 жыл бұрын
I first read this as "Do We Have Free WiFi?"
@1dakika.
@1dakika. 4 жыл бұрын
I can say that Xisuma's streams are really worth watching / listening by just looking at the title. I mostly listen most of themm but still I am really grateful that this channel exists.
@coalopalatticus6964
@coalopalatticus6964 4 жыл бұрын
A thought I've had was we're all just beings created by a being similar to Azathoth(because while I think the universe is a more like Lovecraft envisioned it, I don't think it's an exact copy, and he could not have all the details) whilst it dreams. Once it wakes up, the dream ends and so do we. Now after this video, I'm thinking "What if there's something dreaming that created Azathoth?" and we can go down the line, so essentially this is the simulation theory with a Lovecraftian skin.
@flappetyflippers
@flappetyflippers 4 жыл бұрын
Hokey Pokey wood woo stuff is the best thing Ive ever heard X say
@chiefdvm1671
@chiefdvm1671 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Quantum mechanics is really mind boggling. An interesting fact: Einstein when first heard about Quantum mechanics he completely disapproved of it. He said- God does not place dice.
@marus2249
@marus2249 4 жыл бұрын
sometimes i have a feeling of simulation too. you know how in the sims, your character randomly stops dead in his tracks and starts doing push ups? well i catch myself doing that too and i have no idea my brain could go from 'i need to get from point a to point b' to 'i need to stop whatever im doing right now and do some push ups'. stuff is scary man
@mrakoslav7057
@mrakoslav7057 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm into physics, I mean, like a lot a lot. Not finished school yet. But I find it fun how you explain randomness :) Gotta say, the probabilism is one of more difficult things, but tbh, the part I like about physics the most, is we strive for being more precise, and we will ALWAYS be able to go further beyond. And thats the beauty in life I see
@reidkriz
@reidkriz 4 жыл бұрын
A good movie for this concept is robo cop
@tomaszg7512
@tomaszg7512 4 жыл бұрын
I like your personality. Clearly you are sensitive person and I guess life had left some big scars on you because of that but It made you who you are and made you think the way you do and become the man of Wisdom! Or maybe the seeker of it just to sort out the life that is giving so much pain. I recommend you the books of Petitcollin Christel "how to think less" or the "guide for sensitive people" (don't know exact translation bc Im from Poland) I love to listen to the ebook when I play minecraft :) Keep the thoughts flowing my man!
@combustiblefire5510
@combustiblefire5510 4 жыл бұрын
It's ironic how he said of knowing both momentum and position of particles at the same time as mentioning the laws of physics
@pipodrankje
@pipodrankje 4 жыл бұрын
I actually thought about this the other day and started thinking about the theory of there being determinism without free will. So, I've come up with a thought experiment. Assume the following: • You have every scientific law figured out • You have unlimited "processing power" • You know exactly how the Big Bang was created (assuming this would be the only cause for our lives today) Now you would be able to figure out everything else that comes after. You could get to know every long lost secret, know where someone was at a specific time and practically predict the future. Although the last one is a paradox, i guess. Furthermore, this made me think of pseudorandomness. You could say that the scientific laws make up a 1D perlin noise algorithm seeded by pseudorandom numbers determined by the "values" that made the Big Bang exactly how it was. Essentially a perlin noise algorithm takes what seem like random numbers and "smoothes them out". It makes the values similar to the previous and the next value, meaning you get a smooth graph as a result. Now interpret this graph as a timeline of every single event in the universe. One event determines the next right? You could say that this algorithm would be too biased on chance. But knowing that these "random" values are actually based on a somewhat complex pseudorandom generator with a seed that is basically determined by the first event, it actually isn't that 'random' as you may think.
@hd_2507
@hd_2507 4 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about this a lot recently and it's really weird that this video came around now. The thought of not actually having the ability to change our life, and that the decisions we make are always gonna be made, even if we think we've made a choice, we've just always meant to say that. I'm glad you made this channel because I don't have twitch and I wouldn't really be able to catch the streams most of the time anyways, so this channel is really helpful for me to think about random stuff in a different way. It's strange cis I don't know you personally but through these videos I feel like I'm communicating with you
@jayd6621
@jayd6621 4 жыл бұрын
This video legitimately broke my brain, good job X! This makes my level of thinking seem stupid compared to this..
@nik4520
@nik4520 4 жыл бұрын
I think the person which mentioned quantum mechanics was referring to Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle It's part of the basis for quantum dynamics and just said we can only observe either velocity or position of a particle accurately -never both because the act of determining one changes the other just by the way information works in our universe. It's not really about randomness it's about impossibility -it's what breaks the so called Laplace's (it's a french name) dream and people have known about that for a while. It was a huge outcry in the scientific community when the hypothesis was first publicized because many most people's work was and still is trying to reach a "theory of everything" to reach Laplace's dream indirectly, but this discovery made many people's approaches to it invalid. It took years for everyone to adjust but now it's widely accepted
@ryanmcintyre3616
@ryanmcintyre3616 4 жыл бұрын
For a long time I struggled with grappling with determinism and what it meant about my decisions and actions. I was feeling like they didn't matter. That caused to wonder, "why do anything". Then, for some reason, I had an epiphany. My thinking hadn't exactly switched, I still believe my actions don't matter. Instead of thinking that means I shouldn't do anything at all, I started thinking, why should believing that have any affect on how I act. If my path has been laid out for me, why fight it by refusing to move forward in life, like a toddler throwing a tantrum? And ultimately, that epiphany was always going to occur to me. Except then there is quantum mechanics...
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