Do we live in a sexist country?

[@konraddobson]

This is not a debate. This is an echo chamber. Horrible organization.

[@matthewcourt3795]

This is what happens when you let 16 year olds into a, theoretically, mature debate situation. You get radical views that they've likely got from reading Romany twitter posts, and immature half wits making wanker signs at people who disagree with them.

[@43scout74]

+Matthew Court actually that's exactly why they should be there, to learn and grow from what they've absorbed.

[@swallow_fluffy_feathers9819]

Holly Flanagan but on a biased and possibly misleading opinion? I don’t know, if I was in there I would want to hear two equal sides debating and then make up my mind on who I support

[@Ed-pi7vp]

1 Non-feminist vs 3 Feminists. Good job BBC

[@DrJams]

Plus loads of stupid feminists in the audience.

[@Xgerl]

You mean 1 man and 3 woman. Hurts,isn't it? 😊Ha! Welcome to our world. It is usually 1 woman and 3 men in every other debates.

[@Xgerl]

@@DrJams Not feminists, FEMMES just having very enthusiastic reaction to TRUTH 😁. Suddenly women have something to say about how is to be a woman and it ruins Your "well organised" world.

[@DrJams]

@@Xgerl Didn't know you disliked men so much. Trust me, men don't come up to me and give me an easier time because I'm male. I think you know that but you just want special treatment for women. (such as BBC and Ofcom having quotas for women.

[@DrJams]

@@Xgerl ​My "well organised" world? You women are getting the extra special treatment. Many compaines have women only training programs. For example, BT has one called 'Tech women'. Your not entitled to these places, you have to earn it. But it's easier for feminists to moan demanding special treatment without earning something.

[@GZCon]

So three people arguing for the proposal and one against. Nice and balanced as always BBC

[@Grinchier]

Yes, we do. The sexism against men is appalling but feminists like Laura Bates want to ignore all of that and keep the focus on women as victims. We should be caring about women and men, not just women.

[@nathan3dwilkes]

Agreed, feminists need to remember what feminism actually stands for. Equality for BOTH genders.

[@uhegbu]

rjdjones People like the first contributor are losers. It is a human issue and affects everyone, the whole world over.

[@tychaewraymikaelson4292]

You forget that true feminism is saying women matter too, not men don't matter as we still live in a world run by patriarchy. Look it up women are played less then men simply because of their gender.

[@blondebeans2030]

Glamour Glades Lol, no, the world is under a matriarchy that feeds us propaganda such as lying about male dominance.

[@Grace0724]

On P306 of her book Everyday sexism she has included the chapter 'What about men?' which focuses on sexism towards men and issues to do with men. You slander her and accuse her of ignoring men but you clearly have never read anything she's written.

[@Frohicky1]

The plural of anecdote is not data.

[@MGTOWMO]

Some has been listening to Mehdir Hassan lol

[@Frohicky1]

MGTOW MO Ha, I do listen to him, but I got it from Ben Goldacre.

[@betaleftist9218]

What? Of course it is data. Its nice to see so many people agreeing with something so stupid.

[@Frohicky1]

Level 16 - Atheist - marxist/liberal etc . Multiple anecdotes do make data?

[@betaleftist9218]

Sure.

[@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum]

This is the closest you can get to cancer without smoking.

[@Chidds]

Sexual objectification is not sexism. We don't call gay guys sexist for objectifying men and we don't call lesbian women sexist for objectifying women. It's simply related to sexual attraction. Not discriminatory or abusive behaviour towards members of the opposite sex. If anything it's worship of others.

[@Chidds]

***** I have to disagree. I'm not that you actually saw the point I was making. Just because it's unwelcome, it still doesn't make it sexist. Again, go back to the example of same sex attraction. No one argues that this is sexism, because it's stupidly obvious that it's not. When it's a group bullying activity, it's not sexism, it's sexual harassment. Men can bully other men, and women can bully other women too. Sexism doesn't work like that. Sexism is not just about being horrible to a member of the opposite sex. *It is doing something for the reason that one is the opposite sex.* Calling every sexist, when it's not, just diminishes the impact of such a label.

[@claireierullo5948]

Goddammit everything I wrote was just deleted. While sexual objectification isn't inherently sexist, it is used in a sexist way and really shouldn't be seen. If a woman is walking down the street, she is constantly catcalled, but a man wouldn't experience this on a daily basis if ever. The way this is sexist stems from the fact it's the only praise ever given to women. If you search up any female politician or athlete, one of if not the first thing you get will be about how pretty she is or will be something about her body, not her actual profession. It's being the only thing used to value women. It's fine if you know them well and you know they're ok with you remarking their body or appearance, but not someone you've never met. And it can definitely be abusive behaviour. If you want to have the desired effect you're talking about, a simple "you nailed that eyeliner today" or "those are some lovely boots" goes a long way, *especially* without "sweetheart" or "babe" or any other name you may think of. If it's solely about physical things they can't change, keep it to yourself. It is threatening, no matter what your original intentions were, as when you hear that, it's unwanted touching that comes next. We don't know if you're just trying to be nice or if you are going to attack us. So if you *really* need to say something, say it about something that they can change or something they accomplished, or keep it to yourself. That's it. It's discriminatory because it only happens to women. While once every, say, month, it may happen to a dude, it's every time you leave the house for a woman. And it's not something you're expected to see. If it's not directed toward you, it's harder to see. White people will have a harder time seeing racism. Straight people will have a harder time seeing homophobia. If you aren't a woman, you may not see how this can affect them. So listen to women when they say this feels threatening. And that's all I have to say for now

[@Harry-qe6lx]

They didn't even have the bollocks to ask Milo on.

[@juicesauce5672]

In my school we were taught to almost idolize Laura Bates, now I realise how deluded she is.

[@paul202011]

Why was that idiot who made the hand gesture at 1:36 not thrown out, was the guy in the glasses just fair game because he didnt agree with Laura. If a person had made that hand gesture at Laura they would of slung him out quicker than you could say 'feminist'

[@11moleman]

paul202011 lol if he did that to laura he would have been pounced on by the many pussywhipped boys in the audience for sexually harassing her

[@davidguest7611]

Laura Bates in the classic feminist hypocrite, sets up a project called "everyday sexism" then excludes men from posting just because they are men.

[@mxnolis]

Isn’t that funny. Her evidence is “anecdotes” haha. That’s not evidence, that’s people telling stories and you taking their word for it. Here’s the one piece of advice I’d give to anyone, don’t trust everything people say. People lie and people exaggerate.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

I have literally put my volume on mute and scrolled down to look at the comments to see if there is a consensus on what I predicted- that this debate would be dominated by aggressive, brash feminists. I am not sure if I could watch the video because the sheer level of distortion would be too irritating. I don't think Britain is a 'sexist country' but im convinced that third wave feminists do nothing but create division What infuriates me is they continuously preach about female victimhood vs 'male privilege' But consider THIS - 75% of the homeless are male - the vast majority of inmates are male - men have a shorter life expectancy - there is a strong case that many fathers feel strongly that family courts are deeply biased against them Why the hell are these issues that disproportionately impact males not raised?? I don't mind women's issues being raised if there was just a level of BALANCE in coverage- There isn't. Even more concerning is whenever they are challenged or issues like this are raised, the person is shouted down. This event is called 'Free Speech' but there is basically no platform for men's issues to be raised and as a human being, that infuriates me Feminists focus on the fact that the majority of Parliament is men as 'proof' that women are downtrodden and yet callously ignore the issues I raised above. Parliamentary representation, whilst important is not everything. I am in no way opposed to women's rights. I just detest the lies, hypocrisy and arrogance of the feminist movement as it is now.

[@clairebaker5441]

Nathan Hazlett Womens issues are shown more as sexism affects women a bit more than men. Women were the ones who have always been seen as lower class citizens and are being killed for their gender in certain areas of the world. Women in certain arab countries are killed for being raped! both genders need representation but women's struggles have been going on for a LONG time. Men are in power and yet often forget to help either themselves (with the point you make about homelessness etc) and women. Feminism is the belief that both sexes are EQUAL. Most true feminists (not the extremists) believe that men are affected and are also sexualised and suffer from issues due to women - however for a long time women have been second class citizens and those attitudes exist today and need to be addressed. as the last girl said - many men have higher suicide rates etc because they won't or don't receive proper help as they are expected to "man up" which basically says men are strong and women are weak. Calling someone a "girl" or a "pussy" is seen as an insult meaning that being of the female gender is bad or worse than being a man. I agree men are not seen as the favourite in a family court, quite often it is due to prehistoric thoughts that women stay home with children and men work (again this ideology was started by MEN). And isn't it funny how men do worse in schools yet are the leaders of 96 out of the 100 top businesses in the UK, get higher earnings overall and are more likely to get work than women? How is it that women who get better grades get less job security? that also doesn't seem fair. Men probably get less good grades because women have been taught that they have to prove themselves to get anywhere in life whereas men aren't taught this. Girls are taught that they have to compete with other women for mens approval rather than for jobs. Girls are taught to find a nice husband whereas men who are bachelors get applause. Women get taught to fear men (which again impacts both men and women) as we are so used to rape in our culture if a man was to walk behind a woman on her way home it would most likely scare the woman even though the man is likely innocent. I agree also that we should find to stop mutilation of mens genitals as long as MEN stop trying to tell women whether they can get an abortion and how long for. we need more equality in the government as the laws we have in this country are still mostly voted on and created by male politicians. both genders suffer, and we need more people focusing on how sexism focuses on both rather than just one. remember in some parts of the world women are killed for being raped ffs, but we need to tackle the everyday sexism to change the 'norm' of rape culture and the serious issues.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

Claire baker You say women suffer marginally more sexism but the coverage of women's issues is FAR HIGHER. Tell me what is fair about that? You also acknowledge men's issues exist but more often than not feminists shout men down when they try to raise these concerns! You have written a lot so i'll try to respond to it point by point. I want to make it clear I am referring here to WESTERN THIRD WAVE FEMINISM... 1) It is true that in many parts of the world, women suffer inequality because they are seen as inferior. But that argument is not valid in 2015 Britain because there are absolutely no laws discriminating against women. In your notion of 'male privilege' you ignore the fact that throughout our history, literally millions of males were killed whether in the trenches of the Somme or in coal mines. When feminists preach about privilege I think it is an insult to the many men who were very far from privileged. You might want to research the White Feather Campaign in WW1- Yes that 'shame campaign' was driven by other men and the patriarchy as a source should be blamed, but don't overlook the fact that many women happily endorsed in that vile campaign. 2) You speak about 'Men in power' as if all men are the same and there are no powerful women. It is true that in Parliament, a majority of MPs are men but you ignore the fact that there is actually nothing stopping women from standing. In my city, pretty much every Labour representative I have come across is female. If you believe a politician should be judged on their gender, that to me seems the very opposite of egalitarianism. There are good and bad male leaders, good and bad female leaders. Gender should be irrelevant but feminists continue to insist women are better because they are women. When I vote for someone, i'll vote on their policies and nothing else. Regarding power, are you aware Nicola Sturgeon is paid more than David Cameron?3) On this area- ie men putting pressure on other men, I actually agree with you. Issues like depression need to be openly discussed. When I talk about male issues, I am not blaming feminism for those issues. But I do partly blame feminism for the lack of attention to these issues.4) You appear to be blaming men for the bias in family courts and your explanation for that is absurd. It is simple. Discrimination is discrimination so don't try and make excuses for it because this is literally driving men to suicide. And don't think that all women are innocent because they sure as hell are not. 5) Your analogy of modern day Britain is not one I recognise. 'Women are expected to find nice husbands' Really? I think you have been reading too much Jane Austen because the women I know do not take orders from their parents. 6) I agree with your sentence on men being nervous to walk behind women. And for the regard I regard rape as a heinous crime. The rape conviction rate must reflect proven rapists being brought to justice. But because this is siuch a serious crime, I think it is right that we define what constitutes rape. If two adults are both drunk, the woman alleges rape the following day, she is automatically assumed innocent, he is automatically assumed guilty. How is that fair? And how is it fair that rape defendants are NAMED but the alleged victim retains her anonymity. I understand the argument that it is intended to expose serial rapists but that doesn't condone destroying a man's reputation forever whether he is guilty or innocent. Feminists don't care. 7) Why should men not be allowed an opinion on abortion. Again you talk about 'men' as if they are all one, but what about Women who oppose abortion?? And it is worth observing the fact that half of all foetuses are female. No doubt you will mention that its a woman's body, her choice, but the fact is to many people who oppose it the foetus is a living being. You also ignore the issue of gender-selective abortion. Just to be clear about my own position, im not opposed to abortion. It should definitely be an option in rape and insest cases but in terms of unwanted pregnancies, I think termination should be early stage. In the UK abortion is legal so im not sure why you are insinuating it is not. Saying only women can comment on abortion is a bit like saying only soldiers can have a view on war. 8) The majority of MPs are male. But NOT ALL. So stop saying 'male politicians' In case you hadn't noticed the Home Secretary- one of the most powerful jobs in government is a woman. I also resent your sexist outlook that all male politicians are the same. In conclusion, I agree with some of your points but none of it changes my mind about the hate-movement that is Third Wave Feminism. You insist it is about equality but when was the last time a feminist lobby said ANYTHING positive about men or masculinity? And a lot of what you wrote shows the mentality behind this. You are living in a victimhood mentality, where all men are privileged and all women downtrodden. You acknowledge issues that impact men but then callously dismiss the issues as trivial. The REAL PRIVILEGE is the constant airtime feminists get. I have always been wary of any movement that tries to divide people. I see current feminism as little different from Far Right groups stirring up resentment against immigrants. Feminism continuously tries to stir up resentment against men. Yes there are male feminists- guys who slavishly agree with what their feminist bosses tell them to think. I have kept my response to British issues because on international issues I have consistently spoken out about women's rights. I deeply resent the arrogant notion that people should be forced to support feminism to prove they are egalitarian. This FORCED CONFORMITY that is modern day feminism proves that far from being tolerant, it is aggressive, arrogant and hypocritical. Try being a man and being constantly told that you are a sexist, controlling pig, a rapist etc I think it is outrageous that feminists demand their views be heard but shout down anyone who dissents. I don't believe extremists are a minority and if they are 'moderate' feminists should be doing a lot more to condemn them FEMINISM IS A HATE MOVEMENT.

[@clairebaker5441]

I don't at all think all men are controlling, rapists, sexist or anything of the sort. Infact most men i have met have all been great, kind, respectful and good citizens. I'm not saying all men are powerful and all men are super privileged. but please understand women often focus on the issues involving women as it has been women throughout history who have been less respected than men, so of course women will get angry and focus on women in main arguments. That doesn't mean that the majority of feminists don't want to help men too! But think that more women are killed or raped by men than men are by women...that is what a lot of the focus in the video was about because its a very serious issue. I agree the issues surrounding men should get more airtime but it often seems that a lot (NOT ALL) of men want to just discuss men issues and ignore the fact that in history and even now socially women still aren't equal. And yes there are women in powerful positions, but not nearly as many as there are men even though 50% of the population is female. As for abortion, men should have a say but they shouldn't get the majority vote. In congress in the USA there were 300 bills about womens bodies.. and men there were none. Abortion should be the womens choice so its frustrating having a lot of males talking about what I can or cannot do with my body. Men should obviously get a say as its their child too, but the womens on this particular issue should be the final one. and yes sure in the UK its ok - but there is still so much judgement for getting an abortion that it is still a valid issue. as for saying women then shouldn't get to decide stuff about the armed forces...there are women in the armed forces too so that is kinda a rubbish analogy. also speaking of WW1 and WW2, i admire all the men who fought and i agree men have suffered in history of course they have, but the law for the majority of history has still been on their side and women have been repressed. fact. Also I a not implying it is the men who fight for the right to see or have custody of their children lose the battle due to themselves. I'm saying history's 'ideal family' and gender roles have caused this notion that women should have their children. I think it should be fairer in court and less prejudged, however this like all social issues will take time. As for your comments on rape and drunkness, if a woman sexually assulted a man whilst drunk she should also be prosecuted just how a man would be if he did the same to a woman. consent is consent and if a girl is too drunk don't sleep with her and women should take note not to coerce a guy into extremely drunk sex either as being over;y drunk is not a place of mind to give consent. I personally think all accused and victims should be kept out the press until proven guilty, however with celebrities this is much harder to do, but i agree that society needs to learn not to judge until they have been proven guilty so that their reputations aren't tarnished. What I disagree with your argument is that although in mine I highlighted issues for both men and women you ignored all of the issues regarding just women and only focused on things relating to men. Its like your telling me that women have NOOOO problems in society and men have lots which is clearly NOT TRUE. A feminist is someone who wants social political and economic equality of the sexes. Isn't that what you want too? if so then accept you are a feminist and stop insulting those fighting against social equality and assuming all feminists do is forget about men and shout others down because that is incorrect.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

Claire baker- I am sorry I was so sharp with my words earlier. I didn't mean to imply I was attacking you personally. But I judge movements by their actions and I am just being sincere in that, from my perspective, contemporary third wave feminism is far more divisive and negative than progressive. I appreciate individual feminists don't generally hate men, but as a movement it does stir up constant anti-male rhetoric and I do believe there is an arrogant notion it is somehow above criticism. That is peculiar because within feminism itself there are different schools of thought. If you could see from a male perspective you would maybe appreciate why so many men feel defensive and resentful. Granted there are some men who genuinely hold sexist views, but most men who don't like feminism just hate the double standards and constantly being made to feel collective guilt. I think we actually agree on a lot of areas but just disagree on the influence of feminism as a medium. Believe me im not trivialising women's issues either. I actually have more female friends than male and there are some areas I would agree women are treated badly. I just think feminists would get more credibility if there was more focus on serious human rights issues- for example, women being subjected to acid attacks (South Asia) or 'corrective rape' (South Africa) rather than issues that actually come down to personal choice. I am consistent in my opposition to sexism whether it be against women or men and based on some of the things you have said I think you are open-minded enough to recognise there are issues that impact men too. But I still maintain those issues are not discussed as much as they should be and that is plain unfair. I am absolutely egalitarian in that I believe in equal opportunity AND equal responsibility. I think the feminist movement says it wants equality but is really asking for VIP status for women. Why, for example do feminists call for fewer women in prison despite the fact the vast majority of inmates are male? Surely equality should mean equal punishment for the same crime? If a woman politician is asked tough questions, feminists accuse the interviewer of being sexist- despite the fact all politicians face that sort of grilling. To my that exemplifies the double standards and victimhood mentality feminism constantly promotes. I just don't agree with the 'agree with us 100% or else you are a sexist' approach modern western feminism takes. Some of the shout down tactics feminists use especially towards other women strikes me as nasty and bullying. Again, I really don't believe individual feminists are 'man-haters'- im sure you are not, but a movement- im referring to Third Wave Western Feminism, that continuously promotes a victimhood mentality and continuously stirs up 'them' and 'us' thinking is in my view, dangerous.

[@clairebaker5441]

I think we do agree on many issues, we are just coming at them from opposing sides....kind of like the current election lol. I agree that you don't have to be a feminist to be seen as 'non sexist' but as I think a lot of us all want the same there are some feminists who do come across as man hating, but its because they feel like victims (not saying that is a good or bad thing, the feel like victims because that is what their upbringing/society.their experiences have taught them). I believe men and women have different strengths and weakenesses but i just believe that equality is accepting people for who they are and loving them for their differences and giving everyone equal opportunities without judgement. :D which sounds like we want the same thing whatever we choose call it.

[@matthewthepotato6483]

I love how the first girl who spoke of rape on women, and how the crowd just cheered, and didn't even think of how men are raped too. Rape isn't sexist, it's something you can be charged with in court, whether your male or female. Though women rarely get their rapists a long enough time in jail, men can't even get their rapists in jail most of the time because of pride or fear.

[@claireierullo5948]

Ah yes, but what is the percentage of rape against women versus men?

[@stillmaticdon1941]

@@claireierullo5948 Does it matter. It's not a competition. Rape is wrong regardless of your gender.

[@dee2973]

A group of drunken girls on a hen night put their arms around my waist, spanked my butt , gave me kisses and took a selfie. Now if I did that as a bloke I'd probably be in jail now 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lordoffrog2354]

The left's logic really scares me

[@Inkanation1]

Where is Jordan when we need him

[@cwehden]

Props to the brave man that mentioned the complete lack of protection provided to boys against genital mutilation, it's disgusting..

[@xeno2752]

Every time they howl and clap, the doomsday clock in my head tics one second closer to midnight.

[@trintapinto2624]

Of course a 16yr old feminist’s perspective is more valid and noble than that of a mother speaking from experience. Idiots. Thank God I’m not a Feminist

[@cwehden]

Unfortunately for Angela she has to many intelligent and well nuanced points for most people to understand, she came across as even handed and fair in her opinions.

[@cfcfan9976]

the girl who spoke at the end was probably the only female in the audience that made any sense. also by the fact that only a few people clapped after what she said shows how biased the audience is by putting 95% of the audience being feminists.

[@TheMightyFiction]

The 'gender imbalance' in Parliament, Ms Wood? Tell me, does the UK have some legal restriction on women running for election that nobody knows about? Please, enlighten us all as to why women should constantly have equal representation in (ostensibly) democratically elected political seats whether they deserve it or even whether they want it or not. This woman isn't talking about balance, she's talking about a woman's Parliament within Parliament.

[@infinightsky]

Is not sexual assault different from sexism?

[@lordoffrog2354]

They're retards leave them

[@jessquinlan4436]

Yes, sexism does exist but it is both ways I am a 15 year old girl and I see that society is sexist to men and women but majority only sees that women are the main target of sexism but men are too, if a women was walking down the street and was getting “ wolf whistled” at by men then that would be seen as being an act of sexism but turn the tables, a man in walking down the street and being “wolf whistled” at by women, let’s be honest nobody would see that as being inappropriate, if you are going to say that it is wrong for women to be treated like that then you should be saying it is wrong for anyone to be treated like that. Me growing up as a girl in this society yes has been challenging but who’s to say that men haven’t faced that same challenges just in different forms, we need to be looking at this not as being sexist towards just women but as being sexist to earthier gender. It is shown that women are more likely to speak up about there issues then men. Men face similar issues to what women face but they don’t speak up about it as society doesn’t let them for it would be “un manly”.

[@Frohicky1]

Proof that waving your hands around and using a high pitched voice isn't a substitute for having an argument handy.

[@robertjames7014]

Someone tells her to smile when she's walking down the street and she claims it's sexist harassment? lol.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

I have seen several of these 'Free Speech' events and im really starting to wonder if the audiences are cherry-picked There seems to be a consistent and very dominant left wing bias with a few dissenting views thrown in. If that is the case it makes an utter mockery of the whole concept.

[@marko.rankovic]

A country that is sexist and racist is one thing, and a country that has sexism and racism is another thing. When it comes to repressed emotions, that might not necessarily have to do with the patriarchy, it can be the fact that crying is often seen as being weak, if it was only seen that way because women did it, then us men would neither be eating food because that is also a "girly" thing. Even girls tend to be discouraged from crying. I myself as an alpha male have expressed my emotions to friends and family many times, and I have also seen psychologists whenever I had personal issues in my life such as anxiety. There are certain things that one should not cry about, and certain things that not crying about just to act "tough" is simply an act of stupidity. If the patriarchy really did value men so much, then clearly they would be the ones with the privilege to cry all they want, whereas women would be the ones risking their lives at war because who cares about the "dehumanized" right? So there is some degree of truth on both sides, but not completely. I also find it funny that when men are victims in some way, the blame always goes back to them. Just look at what happened with the Michelle Carter case in which she successfully encourages her mentally boyfriend to commit suicide to CO poisoning in the car. Guess what, a lot of blame went back on the boy. Luckily Carter is facing 20 years in prison because gender equality does after all win.

[@AKSBSU]

It doesn't matter if you look at anecdotal "evidence." Oh, that's a great start... Avoid feminism if you've studied logic, programming, philosophy, ect. Ever seen an alkali metal dropped into water? Feminism makes that happen to my brain.

[@sourcanabs1657]

it was a good debate but sexism doesn't just happen to women, it happens to men as well. and feminism isn't just about there being equality for women it's also about having equality for men too. the term feminism is very misleading. also, i don't understand why that lady said she's not a feminist???? so you don't want there to be equality for both sexes???

[@blondebeans2030]

sourcanabs Feminism is the fighting for women's rights, and sometimes their ideology includes dismissing men's rights. For example, men have the right to feel comfortable in a work environment, however women insist that's its mysoginistic to not let them wear low cut tops and short skirts during work. Feminism was good during it's 1st and 2nd waves, but now?

[@Hartley328]

Would someone please close the BBC down, why do I pay for this shit .

[@rjkmusicmedia]

5 seconds in, and I'm already cringing in disgust! Must be a new record.

[@Chidds]

Sexism from females about males is just as rampant, if not more so, than male sexism about females. The difference is these days it's far more socially acceptable for females to be brazenly sexist towards males, not to mention the growing trend of professional victims (who just so happen to be mostly female).

[@THECHAOSEMPEROR]

So sexual objectification of Men is ok? Or it does`nt even exist according to these women? Or only women can be sexually objectified? Is it any surprise why MGTOW is growing? At this point it`s clearly pointless to argue with these women whether they are feminists or not. They are no different than religious people who see everything from a religious point of view.

[@SOBIESKI_freedom]

Yet another social engineering echo chamber session to upload more bullshit and psychological toxicity into the collective consciousness of society.

[@westwood500]

I'm getting to the point where I am giving up debating feminists. It's gotten so frustrating it feels like talking to a wall. Every retort is the same - "Misogyny".

[@garymaccagnone3669]

Who is the sissy next to her?

[@animebro14]

Whats mtgtow?

[@garymaccagnone3669]

***** Men going their own way.

[@soundexporter1538]

The politician on the panel, who was talking about most organisations in most sectors dominated by men, said "unless this is reversed". I'm sorry, but by that wording, I will have to say that she wants most organisations to be run by women. Am I the only one who thinks that sounds sexist? And also, wtf happened to meritocracy? Why is it that gender, race, religion should be the determining factor in whether one heads an organisation or a sector?

[@Achilles94627]

I love Angela Epstein - the voice of reason and common sense.

[@andrewhyogo]

12:09 audience is called out for their hypocrisy and doesn`t like it.

[@nathaniel8083]

517, dislikes 240 likes, well done

[@topgurl9313]

Well every video I click on which has women talking about their experiences, has loads of dislikes. It's rather telling.

[@neonglade5169]

the lady at the end hit the nail on the head.

[@AnaxofRhodes]

2:18 God bless the one, dissonant voice of experience.

[@lordoffrog2354]

Rape is sexism ?

[@jimmythebuddhistbee8786]

Answer: No. Thank you everyone have a nice night

[@DrJams]

Stupid BBC getting a load of feminists on including in the audience.

[@anonomous8719]

Is it sexist to tell girls to cook us a steak and show us some skin?

[@proudsjw668]

Yes.

[@almondmelk5830]

I fall on the side of I think we do live in a sexist country but the reasons they bring forward are just stupid.

[@AnaxofRhodes]

This is the replies section to a Tumblr post, realized. Echo chamber of pontificating buffoons and one, lone voice with half an ounce of reason.

[@deancosgrave9582]

I can't stomach watching this again. I watched this when it went out on TV the first time and it pissed me off then, I can't even make it past t he 5 min mark this time. The one lady with a modicum of sense to bring to the "debate" gets slammed down by a bunch of self important entitled people with little to no real world experience.

[@johnyan3782]

"He doesn't make any kind of logical points against" Reverse burden of proof fallacy.

[@uno9331]

"do we live in a sexist country, Lauren?" "Yesh" *crowed goes wild*

[@steffjames3974]

This pisses me off so much.....now I'm gonna go watch Milo compilations to cheer me up.

[@Buddyboyo7]

The crowd was ridiculous

[@falconx8719]

So basically it won't be a sexist country if all the men are not at the bottom of the company they reside in. That hurts my feelings. I want to be at the top as anybody else :(

[@micfail2]

The first person in the audience who responded proved the entire premise to be incorrect. Why did the conversation continue? It is very dishonest that the conversation was allowed to go on

[@claireierullo5948]

The person saying the figure was wrong? You can say something's wrong but if it's an official figure that has evidence backing it up, you're going to need to debunk it rather than just say it's wrong. It was clearly stated that no matter what people have said, it still remains the official figure, so there was nothing that argument could have brung.

[@ratours9531]

We do everytime a women speaks she is cheered on every time a man speaks hes is booed and shit down. Do the math.

[@andrewhyogo]

Nice bit of womenterrupting there at 9:56! I`m joking of course, but pointing out the hypocrisy that if a man does that, he`s using his `male privilege`, if a women does it, she`s `empowered`, `go sister`, `you go girl` etc..

[@Frohicky1]

12:34 if you follow her chin she spells out 'I don't have any' in the air

[@basmaberih5433]

Why did the only good comment come at the end and she was cut off

[@TheMightyFiction]

The young man at the beginning who said the DV figure had been debunked wasn't QUITE right. For all intents and purposes, it is a real figure since it has been recorded as high as 104 (2 a week sounds scarier, though), but that isn't the full story. What Ms Bates won't tell you is the figure fluctuates broadly from year to year and in fact, the last figure I saw for 2012/13 was 75 which, whatever calendar you might be using, is considerably less than 2 a week. So whilst Ms Bates is technically using an accurate figure, it's not the latest one, it's a cherry-picked number that supports her woefully feeble argument. I can only presume that's why she tried to shut the poor kid down so thoroughly, because proceeding along that road would've given the game away.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

And how many men? Nobody cares. You can deploy isolated stats to illustrate anything-- at least two thirds of homicide victims being male, society must be sexist against men.

[@bowdensghost2314]

The wooping and shrieking really wound me up, pretty funny though once you transcend anger

[@beniceffs]

Now you can see the Peterson/Newman interview. That will answer your confusions, Ladies.

[@tjti2631]

This is a terrible debate .

[@elchasai]

It's really very unhelpful to have this 'comedian' there

[@brandonb2258]

I dont accept sexism and i get why women are protesting. But their are always going to be good and bad in the world, it will never be perfect. People should stop moaning.

[@gianaanne8834]

Femenism should be about equality. Not being biased and hating men. That is not what feminism was ever about! People want to get rid of feminism so bad it's sad. It is about equal opportunities and motivating women that is what real feminism is about not making men look bad or hating them. These people are giving feminism a bad name & reputation and it's not fair to the real feminist who wants equal rights and no more objectification. Most men don't want to admit the fact that women have and are oppressed. Some countries don't let women even drive and people still want us to shut up and stop empowering these women who live just to suffer. No one is saying that men don't face discrimination. We all know that women go through far worse sexism and it's a lot more common for it to happen to a woman than it is for a man. Just dress like a female for a day. Curves makeup and everything and see how molested and objectified you feel it doesn't compare to the objectification a male feels. We are more likely to get rapped and we all know it's the truth stop being defensive and admit it. The only time(SOME) males truly care is when they have a daughter and realize the disgusting way we get treated that's when it hurts!

[@TheVapaaduunari]

Nineteen totally wasted minutes.

[@rjkmusicmedia]

Well, they proved the point that women can't handle edgey teenager humour! It's like when those teenage footballers beat the adult feminist team. Sexual dimorphism and free speech humour, not your emotional manipulation on behaviour!

[@Xeviana]

Milo would have had so much fun lol

[@ashenjag3887]

I was confused but then realised it was 5 years ago

[@Frohicky1]

I think it's very damaging in a public arena like this to check my stats.

[@linsalmon7722]

Women get payed 79 cents by every mans dollar *yes USA is not sexist AT ALL * omg why is this a "debate

[@SM-tu5fz]

Girls like u only look at the stats that suit u and say only look at 1 second of a full minute . Woman can get employed on quota system men can’t, so u can’t get hired without being qualified that’s privilege if u ask me. Men get harsher sentences for the same crime. Woman get all the benefits wen it comes to keeping children, men do all the more dangerous jobs, woman can enter police/military easier, girls aged 21-29 earn more, men are victims of violence more, more men in prison, woman live longer, woman get priority in housing (Wy u see more homeless men), men have to the fight the wars, men do all the dangerous jobs which woman won’t do . In what way are woman acc losing. U only wanna see more woman in positions of power or in business but don’t care enough to see woman doing jobs like scaffolding, building,electricians only certain jobs u care but don’t acc wanna be be 50% 50% wiv men only where it suits , cos otherwise the type of jobs I mentioned above would of been spoken abt today but obvs they weren’t. I’m 20 years old athletic in good shape , if the next hitler comes along and Britain go to war and do conscription , I’m gonna be the 1st one called up to go fight. And that’s something u females have never dealt wiv and never have to deal wiv which I think is privileged. Wen woman start doing the tough jobs that men do, then we can all start talking abt all those other roles.

[@jeanpaul486]

Do we live in a sexist country? First, there is no such thing called sexism as such, it's ground of liberty when applied to gender fails to explain anything. What expect you of men, and what expect you of women depends largely on other principles, beliefs, cultures, faith, and social conditions, but most of all on the individual choices. Second, feminist use the term sexism only to explain their individual misery, as they are extremely discontented from the lack of clean moral principles and clear thinking. Relate to justice the particular crime, and justice can be done, but not always. The world can be difficult irrespective of gender, only sane and wise advance. Third, in the process of nagging others to hear their misery, the feminist carried along with them all the gays, lesbians, trans, bisexuals, perverts (even maybe the pedophile, incest and bestiality, if the law says otherwise) to their cause, i.e., to fight for equality. Those who says they are wrong they called them sexist, homophobic, misogyny, etc. However, there is a gender difference, biologically, and that is a fact. The human race as a whole pursue life accordingly. Say, the world is divided into two class, the rich and the poor. If someone is richer, you are poor. Therefore, have you to sought equality? And if you are richer than someone, are you the cause of inequality? It's the system, the capitalist, yeah??? :)

[@fortcastlevgn2368]

wtf with those short cuts,, those are nice comments

[@TheHabsification]

You're 16 yrs old You have no idea of how the world works.

[@claireierullo5948]

While with age comes with wisdom, so does experience. Just because you're older than her doesn't mean she can't know more than you about certain things like, idk, the way she's being treated unfairly.

[@TheHabsification]

@@claireierullo5948 Wow how late to the game are you

[@claireierullo5948]

@@TheHabsification Very

[@TheHabsification]

@@claireierullo5948 You need to show actual facts and stats of sexism in the UK. Not individual anecdotes, or social situations, that are nothing, but personal slight.

[@krisjawahir686]

Love when the clueless seals claps

[@alexandeon]

That last woman was hot. And no, that is not a sexist comment.

[@elsgreen3963]

They needed milo on the panel

[@blondebeans2030]

The short-haired girl at 18:32 was spitting plain facts

[@Mather088]

nothotti she wasn’t, the suffragists accomplished the most, definitely not the suffragettes

[@FB-mw5gv]

At 1:31 someone done the wanker sign loooooooooool

[@proudsjw668]

LMAO! This show always has the best audience.

[@tedbuckingham693]

brings up crime statistics* I'm sorry but how tf is that sexist

[@swallow_fluffy_feathers9819]

It’s great wining about what problems they think exist in a so-called “sexist” country but what SOLUTIONS DO THEY HAVE TO IT, these so called issues!!!! Can a feminist actually tell me what solution they have to this wining apart from duck tape!

[@nip4603]

I was skipping around Big Questions videos. What is this shit? The bargain bin version populated by uni kids?

[@TerrariaFanKid]

Debate? Okay. LMAO

[@LipoMaae94]

Gender balance in the workplace... But only in the nice jobs. There are next to no women looking to get into construction, mining etc

[@klobmuk]

OK! this show will have ...1... actual argument pro feminism. ... but no, feminists keep proving me wrong, looking for non moronic feminists.

[@Oldpangolin]

Hahaha doesnt sound like a room full of engineers to me

[@shangxinhemengmian679]

I agreed with the last girl, completely.

[@johncronin3105]

What's with all the inane whooping by the audience??

[@jazmineaphrodareisia4079]

-Drops walnut on the floor- *AUDIENCE* *AHHHH WOOOO* *CLAPS*

[@claire_stapley]

I seriously hope that this cancer of a show got cancelled

[@thehararean]

a pack of wolves of feminists

[@farquhar0407]

"I am an aspiring film maker", PAHAHAHAHA *skips*

[@claireierullo5948]

I don't see how it's funny.

[@elitesennabubble]

laura sounds like my religous studies teacher

[@gracegeorge348]

gender imbalance is not sexism!!!!!!

[@Nellynoodlebums]

The first Woman to speak really needs to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich....

[@jimthompson9370]

Do people realise that as an issue works its way through society (the Newman vs. Peterson interview may have been a watershed moment - I hope so) and the group think derides the previous zeitgeist, the opinions held by the BBC here will not only be ridiculed, but undermined by the next fashionably social trend. "They're all hairy legged lesbians!" etc... Surely it's best to strive really hard for balance and objectivity on a consistent basis. That was presumably the idea of a well funded state-run media corporation? It's better all around for debate, and prevents the echo chamber situation we see here. It should also (hopefully) stop the potential for derision and even vilification when your ideals are no longer championed by the establishment.

[@mxnolis]

That “comedian” is so annoying

[@doejane8461]

just because the country has crimes against women doesn't make it sexist country. uk is pretty feminist country, ppl. appreciate please. you have so much you have, that the others envy

[@doejane8461]

even "sweden" has crimes against women, so that makes sweden sexist country???

[@blondebeans2030]

doe jane sweden is sexist to men

[@elsaluvsnutella]

no

[@deang187]

Snowflakes! Snowflakes EVERYWHERE!!