DO WE NEED TO GATEKEEP??? || HCPOD

[@MarianneSunshine]

Agree with Poet 1000%. Gatekeeping is needed actress the culture. We bunch up in cliques instead, keeping your own people out whilst letting others profit from what we created.

[@jasminbrown7180]

When poet gets it right he gets it RIGHT!!

[@K3oniii]

FORREAL

[@Tarn114]

Poet is correct in saying that we as black people could never go on another platform and speak about other communities. Look at what happened to Diane Abbott when she wrote the article about racial hierarchies in Britain

[@introvertk1178]

This guy brought Alhan and Tego to the scene two biggest culture vultures

[@mikebassett9195]

haha true

[@ninomiya6614]

Alhan a European private school boy of all ppl. Poet has him wayyy too comfortable being at the centerfold of Black creative spaces.

[@ThinkPeace95]

Having a child out of wedlock is not the end of the world but the odds of a child thriving better in a two parent household is much higher than the odds of a single parent household. Unity is what we want, community & that starts @ home

[@tessa7582]

A happy two parent household is better than a happy single parent household. An unhappy two parent household is not better than a happy single parent household.

[@T11CVV]

@@tessa7582 I’m playing devils advocate cos I pretty much agree but an unhappy two parent household still has two parents (who ideally maintain their responsibilities through unhappiness) a single parent household will always be missing that balance you get from both parents - so in some cases it would still be better for the child.

[@tessa7582]

@@T11CVV if one parent is emotionally, financially, physically or sexually abuse - what use is that two parent household?

[@T11CVV]

@@tessa7582 abuse of any form is obviously not better but that’s not what we were talking about. The argument was about an unhappy two parent home, not an abusive one.

[@tessa7582]

@@ThinkPeace95 unhappiness has reasons

[@IVHORN]

Mr giraffe neck said "Serve the community, not yourself" is also Mr. "Buy this Google phone, it’s amazing." Talk about mixed signals. Is this a sermon or a sales pitch? We are watching main character syndrome live and direct.

[@b2466-d8x]

good point. He was mos prob offered 20 bags and took it

[@JamzNharail]

He also stated, Which you clearly ignored... if he does some BS, call him out on it.

[@cyndaquilist]

​@JamzNharail they always ignore cos they don't like poet

[@TheaCammock]

Nah we love Poet and all he has done and is doing, but sometimes he does chat absolutely rubbish 😂😂😂😂

[@bt7033]

Unchecked rubbish 90% of the time too

[@ThomasYoung-rq7pq]

its like he has a spliff and then just rambles whatevers in his brain thinking it all sounds good in his head

[@3rdIOpen]

I think he's entirely right with this topic

[@whooked]

@@3rdIOpen and then says he loves sexii redd

[@AM_9924]

That MJ comment was straight ignorance from Owen. That man gave the world so much. Research is free, there’s enough evidence out there proving his innocence.

[@Shawn-o2q]

Poet hate is unnecessary would understand it if it was a couple years ago but he said he was dealing with a lot including losing custody of his kids. It’s time to move on, he’s for the people!

[@Jaz-qb5nw]

I actually enjoy EA sports’ contributions to this pod🤔

[@icwreid9336]

Yeh man I have to say Poet's commentary was 1st class. Compelling me to share my thoughts. Poet really overs the situation. Nuff Respect for this eloquent reasoning. Big up & more life Poet

[@Huwandahero]

I heard what poet was saying loud until he said he can’t say what he wants about a certain culture cause he won’t get brand deals any more. You can’t go on a power rant then say your happy to still get paid by that community 🤣surely the message should be we need to build our own eco system so that we aren’t reliant on “old money”. Our community now has such a diverse pool of different classes who, if banded together could make old money obsolete. His message is powerful but ultimately come with no solution, especially when you have Doritos ads on filthy and pushing google pixel every week. Why not pitch to push benjart or other brands from our community 😅

[@MayorSom]

“Built our eco system” you live in a cloud cuckooland😂 Go Easy on Omar Johnson content

[@sistagirl15]

You underestimate the significance of what he’s saying. Messaging is everything. Perception becomes peoples reality. Moving forward involves controlling the narrative and THAT is where it starts. Think - how often do you see positive imagery of wealthy or successful black people in mainstream media?? Very rarely and that is by design. Perception becomes reality

[@Huwandahero]

@@sistagirl15 it really doesn’t, it begins with actions. Align yourself by the principles you preach, build income streams centered by our communities. You can’t preach narrative control and responsibility whilst using your huge platform to get paid from those you go against it. Poet has done more than 99.9% of us for the community and his peers so I don’t want to make it seem slanderous, I’m just saying that’s where the point missed for me slightly as if he align with that message he shouldn’t take white collar $…

[@sistagirl15]

@@Huwandahero His actions do align with what he’s saying. He doesn’t hold or create space for people who speak negatively about black culture. Particularly those who don’t belong to the culture. His actions align with his words. In addition, he actively creates opportunities for other black men and women in the culture which enables people (of the culture) to change the narrative around black culture in the UK. Lastly, working with multinationals doesn’t equate to betraying a cause or the culture. One cannot expect change without a seat at the table. 😌

[@Huwandahero]

@@sistagirl15 like I say his contribution is clear, my point is why do we need a seat at the table when there are enough sources within the culture to make our own…

[@mrsastre9404]

I’ve never heard so much waffle in all my life. This guy is a legend in his own head. Chuckie is just as complicit as he lets his his boy incoherently waffle and doesn’t draw card pon him. lol then lets him get cooked in comments.

[@ladyout2crush735]

🤣

[@Fatma-bq1jh]

I wouldn’t dare to have poet on loudspeaker while on the phone😂😂

[@b2466-d8x]

I disagree with Poet on some of this. I remember watching the Through The Wire video whilst in a shit job etc - it resonated with me as a struggling artist of mixed heritage - his music made me laugh and was joyful too. You don't have to be 'black' to get Kanye , like you don't need to be white to get Van Gogh... It's Art FFS I think I'm gonna swerve this pod going forward...

[@fortunalondon8692]

This is easily Poets best online contribution. Spot on with every point. 🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@siennaa6140]

I TOTALLY AGREE!!

[@MrDGB001]

Great episode

[@kyngdavid9]

Agree 100% he is not wrong

[@lzs777]

Poet Tell Dem Ta Rars , Talk Up Di Tingz Dem ! 🍾

[@lewisvincent3070]

Need to have a convo about whether or not ‘culture’ actually belongs to anyone. To be so ingrained into believing culture is something that needs to be adhered to and protected is limiting and more time it doesn’t even exist in the way in which people think it does. To think ‘your people’ have your best interest at heart is also naive, as is highlighted by knife/gun crime statistics in both the US and UK. i.e just because you have similar life experiences to others doesn’t mean they have an incentive to help you - more time the victims of murder are family members.

[@hannah60000]

The only point I will address is the culture does not belong to people point. Not all culture belongs to everyone. It’s groups and individuals that create cultures, and they determine what that. Also, it doesn’t imply that culture is immovable, nor lacks evolution. People who argue culture doesn’t belong to anyone have no idea of self or other people different to them, from my experiences. Separately, you can choose to adhere to the “cultures” or “culture” you come from, but that does not imply that “culture doesn’t belong to anyone”. Peace!

[@tessa7582]

Black culture can be enjoy by the very one but it will always only be black culture.

[@lewisvincent3070]

@@tessa7582 which black culture exactly? Or are you implying all black people share the same culture?

[@tessa7582]

@@lewisvincent3070 if you are black and you create something that then Is black culture.

[@tessa7582]

@@lewisvincent3070 hip hop is black culture. Breakdancing is black culture, grime is black culture, so is reggae, soul and R&B, etc

[@chinksey-MEDIA]

Yes Po💪🏾

[@nboiii1779]

poet talking facts

[@tonimariedm7344]

If I could like this one twice!

[@ThinkPeace95]

I think we compare the interaction between Callum (was gonna call him Charlie) and EA sports. Yes, you called Callum racist 😂 but there was still respect there. With EA it’s like you little boy him but obviously we aren’t there so could just be misunderstood …

[@monsieurmfwic2307]

Poet is killiiiiiiing this pod man. What in the song of fire and ice is he talking about? Sure I heard ‘culture’ 86 times. Just faffin!

[@MTTT__]

Preach Poet ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@Afak6]

Poet - Thank you for speaking on ShxtsNGigs - specifically James’ wack commentary on #Supacell. It was so mad disappointing as a fan, as a Black person, to hear him utter such stupid and frankly, racist commentary about a show he’d never even seen. If you hate yourself then say that, but to diminish a show that was NO.1 on Netflix globally, a show for us, by us??? Nahh, doesn’t sit well with me.

[@sarad2659]

It was them actively LAUGHING while a white man and an Asian mocked black women for me. Chunks would never.

[@kyngdavid9]

Well said. They throw black people under the bus so much for white giggles.

[@Slsp-ls7et]

No offence, but doesn’t he have mixed race kids mr black power 😅

[@ladyout2crush735]

hypocrisy at its finest

[@ninomiya6614]

Agreed, at the v least I believe the children are half-Arab and not half-White (if that makes a difference at all? i honestly dont know if it does)

[@ninomiya6614]

I think the bits about protecting, respecting and safeguarding Black Culture was brilliant. Ultimately as someone else has mentioned here, Poet might need to address the damage he’s done to the Black Culture here by pushing Alhan to the forefront of our scene and having him disrespect and be over-comfortable with so many legends in our scene in their Gasworks show. Alhan is comfortably one of the most prolific culture vultures in the Black British creative sphere.

[@omo2786]

If you want to maintain the culture as it is then yes. What people never accept though is that the people in charge from said culture are motivated by money first and foremost so they have no issue selling the culture

[@njr497]

and the money comes from out of the culture... how many black rappers are millionaires if not for suburban white kids? Racist poet is an idiot

[@Mr_W1illiam]

We Do Need To Gatekeep. When I see mdotr performing his music I take it as an insult to the culture.

[@aaqilsaban3214]

Bring dan back man, tired of Karen

[@thiscatrocks]

Yessssss Poet talk the talk and speak the truth to power

[@_iceice91]

Poet talks about shxtsngigs Supacell comments @23:22

[@KAtheGreat]

Poet you’re giving a sermon on this one ✅✅✅ 36:01

[@MrD-tu3hp]

Poet was spot on about Kanye but most people don't realize it and will continue to bash him

[@Itsife_]

As much as I like poet it's painful hearing him waffle.

[@michael43567]

I'm spoiled. If there's no timestamps, I don't watch 🤣

[@anthonyjones8836]

Lol @ the exageration of Candice owens looks.. She's o.k

[@pixelzombie7442]

They were doing WAY too much

[@nat3.2b.3]

WaKanda forever - Love Poet

[@lizzieloves.x]

Yes we do

[@fromthebigo1538]

Go out and live. ☺️💯

[@kezzt]

I haven't listened yet (vid is only 10 mins old). But YES WE DO. We need people from the culture deciding on the direction of the culture

[@AT-py2bp]

Why?

[@kezzt]

@@AT-py2bp because the culture is a reflection of our community. And as soon as we let people from outside of that community make decisions, the worst parts of it are reflected and exploited.

[@lewisvincent3070]

@@kezztculture doesn’t belong to anyone, it’s just an idea in people’s heads

[@MayorSom]

@@lewisvincent3070you really love spewing your half baked philosophy. Blimey!

[@pirateblackhawkdown9047]

Who decides who makes the choice is it the Jamaican,Ghanaian,Congolese,Nigerian,Sudanese,Haitian,Afro latino? Would they even come to a understanding when culture has more influence we see that everyday over basic things when Caribbeans & west-Africans fight over anything.

[@CURRYPOWDERR]

REASON WHY PEOPLE DONT GIVE EXAMPLES IS BECAUSE ITS UPTO YOU TO DO AND DECIDE , EXAMPLES DONT MATTER IF THEY DONT GET USED ... USE YOUR INITIATIVE

[@dazza818]

Poet said all that after promoting the brand the dropped Kanye for speaking

[@queenirmamay]

Make your money, and put money away for bills (6 months to 12 months if stuff goes left). Don't give a damn. Tomorrow is not promised. Get your stuff together for the next generation as for Chuckie, no kids, but I know he is looking after family. Do you. You can't always help your family. I wish I didn't have to say this, but when you lived it.

[@SkyeDaMan]

14:04 THAT WAS ME. Yea, he is a bit of a dunce though.

[@ne3371]

What beef are they talking about with the EA guy?

[@GRND1MASTA1FUNK]

I enjoy the podcast and I've been listening to the Reggie Yates podcast since it started in lockdown and I think Poet it out of line for the rant. Context: I'm 31, black, male, a dad, a partner and from Birmingham. If Owen says he doesn't rate MJ or Kanye because of their lifestyle and statements but can admit they have been big parts of his life, I don't get the problem. I've seen the episode in question and there is no disrespect for anyone's culture and Owen states that's his personal thoughts (ie not an attack on our culture). Reggie and Bubba also state they don't check for Kanye West either, but that's not been flagged as a cultural attack or some sort of "holding eachother back" sense. I don't get how not liking MJ or Kanye is a race/cultural thing? As before I'm a black man who fell out of love with Kanye when he said slavery was a choice. I understand/know race and culture are 2 different topics but I've included both as I'm listening to Poet rant about a white man attacking our culture. Just a chat point, if this comes across as disrespectful/inappropriate/insensitive in some way, it's not intended Enjoy your day and I'll be here for another episode 🙋🏾‍♂️

[@datjulesyboy]

I completely agree with what you have said. I’m a day one listener of the Reggie Yates podcast also, and was baffled to hear that Poet found what Owen said disrespectful because I don’t think (even hearing the podcast snippet in this episode) Owen was referring to race in any way. Kanye has done and said questionable things, and it’s fair not to ‘check’ for someone after having an opinion on said questionable actions. It doesn’t always have to be about race and I think Poet just wanted to have an example to support his argument, but this example didn’t make sense.

[@lettz_g2942]

just found new Kanye interview 2weeks ago, interesting

[@film5539]

9mins- you guys are always rucd to EA, I expect it from poet but was shocked from fake nice guy chuckie. If EA was freelance hed have told them to suck out by now, but cause hes dans employee hes just gotta firm it

[@redkem80]

Candace Owens is buff/peng?? You two have lost the plot if you think that

[@ibrahimhassan711]

shes nice, also the fact she's a conservative makes her even more buff. Im tired of these woke shawties

[@dkbongo3]

​@@ibrahimhassan711 woke shawties 😂😂 never thought I'd hear that in my life

[@justdoit.86yearsago]

She is pretty, you’re probably the type that only goes for Kardashian’s

[@dkbongo3]

@@justdoit.86yearsago all things serious she's not butters and isn't 10/10 she just medium but if you like her personality or her outside of work you can get it shaking

[@number1outlaw123]

She look like a character from the movie Antz

[@AK-tn6mi]

POET 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@b2466-d8x]

Gold in the Waffle Olympics decathalon for P

[@marvinkirton1287]

1st 😮😮

[@thoughtsofathinker2445]

Here you go bro, 🍪.

[@MrNileM]

Poet does talk some utter rubbish.

[@silewis9396]

45:04

[@MrDGB001]

King Poet

[@rolandbishop6610]

Sign ya life to the devil & expect them to dash you away whenever they want

[@jamescasual7247]

52.00!!!

[@rohnickamiriama1361]

Do people know James is half white?

[@berny3056]

Who’s ea sports ?

[@msdeangelox]

The cameraman/editor

[@92agayle]

I don't think Poet realises that whilst white privilege exists, and there is still systemic racism and oppression in certain ways and certain things against minorities... BRO.. Poor is poor. I'm mixed race. My most successful family members are on my Paternal black side. My most successful friends are all non white British. Either black, mixed or non-british Europeans that came to UK got their degrees and have moved on to have great careers or run businessws elsewhere. To talk about white privilege in the manner he does so flippantly completely disregards and undermines the struggle of the british white working class.. which is exactly what we moan about happening to us 😂Poor is poor at the end of the day.

[@HITPOINTgrime]

White privilege doesn't mean white people can't be disadvantaged, it just means that they aren't disadvantaged due to being white. A poor white person will face less issues than a poor black or brown person, all other things being equal.

[@doshpits]

give me a break lol tell your people them to focus on dismantling capitalism then.. rather then attempting to attack faculties holding migrants and causing mayhem on poc like they was doing just couple weeks ago. trying to compare our struggles to whatever they deal with is a mere false equivalence. no sympathy over here.

[@92agayle]

@@doshpits Bro. I agree. I hated the riots. I hated the people destroying local businesses.

[@92agayle]

@doshpits It's not about comparing the struggle. Of course the white mans struggle will never be the same as ours in this country. Brother. My point is. The way Poet talks about White privilege as if the average White Brit is living lavishly and has any amazing life. Well that's just not the case loool so context needs to be provided. I am from both sides and wont be forced to deny or disregard either.

[@doshpits]

@@92agayle context isn’t required. especially when we’re never given such grace. nobody even argued against the existence of the white working class and the possibility of them struggling. our current social condition is constructed in a way where there are profound racial disparities in there favour, even amongst the working class. your anecdotal experience i.e. your black cousin who does better than your white one doesn’t negate that fact. so this inclination you had to emphasise such a point was moot. but fight for your people them, i guess.

[@SDY43251]

Poet is such a waffler man

[@enapng]

i hear what poet is saying but you cant be this loud and be a hypocrite, wasn’t he screaming how much he loved sexy redd 🤨 idk just stand on what you say, dont speak up on things to sound righteous

[@kazkutz]

Poet loves the race ting innit

[@unknowng888]

Poet needs to leave his echo chamber. Black people do tend to overhype too much. Remember when Dave was in TopBoy as Modi and the blogs claimed Modi was the best villain ever like wtf??? Poet is a clown.

[@njr497]

Racist Poet talking smack again.... the worst. I think is ignorance really shines when he's in this bag.

[@pixelzombie7442]

"That aint it yall". Anyone has a right to critique anything. Too much waffling disguised as dropping gems.

[@datjulesyboy]

Poet chats rubbish

[@MellowMell20]

Yes Poet is right & on form🙌🏾🤌🏾

[@bri1085]

Poet alt

[@arsenalgunner8973]

Wish I was at carni🥲

[@Dave-ik1eg]

Poet gave us Jordy and says he’s the greatest rapper of all time I don’t think Poet gets to talk like he owns the culture 😂 The culture they’re talking about is London culture. It’s infected the north now aswell and we’re tired of it. Everyone is the same, act the same look the same dress the same use the same slang it’s booooring There is no culture It’s just clout and trends