Do You Have To Guess What's Under The Fog?

[@MrGrog90]

gdc here. Thanks for solving another puzzle of mine. In case you are wondering about the difficulty: It used to jump around between 2 and 3 stars for a while and is currently on 3 stars. But be prepared, that you'll have to do some sudoku in this sudoku :) Thanks everyone who tested this on the CtC discord!

[@Nickle314]

I like it, but then I'm partial to fog of war. ... Nice puzzle

[@MyriamTT]

I like to do sudoku. Great puzzle. Thank you!

[@zincfive]

@MrGrog90 gdc, was Simon's green coloring logic at the end in the solve path you predicted?

[@GrahamNicholson56]

A lovely puzzle, thank you. Almost every deduction was an "ah-hah" moment and it flowed beautifully.

[@MrGrog90]

​@@zincfive I personally used R2C2=R1C5=R3C8=3 in my "intended solve path" but it is essentially the same logic (with R2C2 instead of R3C2 as a starting point) and everything else resolves naturally after that in a very similar fashion.

[@johnh2052]

When Simon pencil-marked the 12345 line, but did sudoku on every column _except_ the one that already had a 1,2,3 and 4 in it, it caused me serious emotional pain. :)

[@shellmichael9665]

The second he did that, I knew he’d resolve the 5/6 pair through some superfluous means. Just made me laugh.

[@Enkil01]

Love how Simon says, I'm sure people are yelling at the screen. At the beginning of this Channel when Simon and Mark were doing and teaching 'classic' sudoku's, One of the rules was when you fill in a number, check to see how it relates to the pencil marks. Now he races off and misses the easy ones LOL. I'm not even going to attempt some of these puzzles, but it makes me feel better when I spot an easy fill. 😉At least I can con myself 😁

[@firebyrd7933]

I am sure most of the times I catch something that Simon doesn't is because he starts the logic and then I follow it to the conclusion and sometimes he does not. I am not coming up with the logic but at least I understand it I guess.

[@goldcakes]

I just love how Fog of war puzzles can make it easier for a novice like myself to find the flow of logic while retaining the difficulty for the more experienced solvers. My time was 01:22:42

[@Vedvart1]

Exactly this! I think with other variant sudokus, I often struggle to find where to look or what to use for the next step, and I get stuck. But with fog of war, and I often find myself not having to get hints from the video, and occasionally even finishing them faster than Simon or Mark!

[@coherentramblings7326]

I went from never attempting the puzzle myself, to doing the puzzles from videos 30 minutes or shorter, and today I decided to try this one despite the length and actually got it done in 56 minutes.

[@zincfive]

Good for you! Similar here, I try shorter puzzles too, especially Mark's. I'm pleased with myself that I got the break-in, and made some good progress before I got myself mixed up and watched the rest of the solve. Did you have to use the coloring that Simon found at the end? That's always hard for me to find...

[@AFT3RDAY5]

I try all of them, but I can only do the harder ones mostly by peaking at the solution 😅 The longest so far took me around 5 hours 👍🏻

[@kevinhay2267]

Same here - picked up so much from Simon and Mark that I am trying these whereas a year ago - no way.

[@MoD366]

Poor r2c3... is pencilmarked 12345 for what felt like ages while having 123 and 4 staring at it in column 3. And then it gets resolved by an X-wing on sixes in columns 1 and 2 instead of simple Sudoku... never change, Simon, even if I have been shouting at my screen multiple times during this solve.

[@ronjohnson6916]

Simon's refusal to fully pencil mark row 9 was so frustrating.

[@DuncanBooth]

For me it was his refusal to fully pencil mark column 6. He had two corner 9's in cells that could only be 789 and marking that would have given a 789 triple in row 5 leading to the 3 in column seven without any of the complicated stuff he ended up doing.

[@ajhanaimu2343]

I was shouting 2 is fixed in row 9 for long time 😅

[@Hydrabogen]

My brain was chanting 139 139 139 throughout a significant part of this video xD

[@jensschmidt]

Once again, this puzzle was a highlight of Simon (not) scanning and us yelling at the screen. We love you, Simon, never change.

[@jensschmidt]

54:47 Yeah, but mainly because of the 1-2-3-4 in column 3... oh boy...

[@user-my2nm3lz7w]

He's so much faster and better than I am at solving these things, but ALL of his problems always come from not doing the basic Sudoku checks.

[@zincfive]

@@jensschmidtI almost had a mini stroke from that one...

[@echterkeks6900]

He had me at the beginning when he is not using the white dot next to the 3 in box 8. Really love the vids, but he always make me yelling at the screen... go on Simon

[@MCarrington01]

I typically love watching Simon solves. But this puzzle maxed my frustration at him missing “simple sudoku”. One or two times is laughable. But this had at least half a dozen.

[@mspekkio]

I love how much you've taught me that I immediately asked and answered "where does 2 go in row 9" when you pencil-marked 29 into R9C6

[@meredithnavin1358]

My mantra for this video. "9! ROW 9! LOOK AT ROW 9!" XD Great solve again Simon! Love your work!

[@thorzweegers7616]

8:50 - One un-fogged cell, and Simon seems quite surprised to say: "So we do know what this digit is." 😆 Loved the puzzle, loved the solve. I made a mistake showing me the 5 in box 7 too early, so that was a shame, but I guess I need to be more careful when playing fogs. I do love the fogs!

[@MyriamTT]

Simon's dislike of Sudoku makes all his solves more difficult.

[@Landis963]

Classic Simon, completely overlooking the significance of Column 3 once he'd gotten a handle on the renban in Box 1.

[@trisha2584]

great puzzle; I got stuck on the last few digits. I needed Simon's deduction at 58.23 in order to finish the puzzle.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

15:17 I love these moments. The simpler answer is that 4 cannot exist on a line with 9, 8, 7 and 6.

[@jacobbelanger5863]

But we don't know if nine is on the line yet

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

@@jacobbelanger5863 Ah whoops, I had gone back to watch after getting stumped and just had it in my head that 9 had been confirmed.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

@@jacobbelanger5863 I guess I just totally made up 9 being on the line in my head actually... lol Just discovered my logic was wrong.

[@Vathorus]

I don't get why the bottom left line cannot bend upwards. Simon didn't explain that, he just stated it. But from my perspective it can bend and have 6, 7 or 9 in R8C2.

[@dustpan5356]

I got caught on that too for a brief moment. But what he’s saying is when the fog cleared, R8C2 is an empty cell and has no renban line, so the line therefore moves left into R9C1.

[@Vathorus]

​@@dustpan5356omg you're correct... I somehow at this moment convinced myself that the lines need to be constructed by the solver 🤦

[@YellowBunny]

This took me 66 minutes and I feel like about 10 of those were just disambiguating the last 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s at the top.

[@scbl46]

36:29 for me. Really enjoyed the flow of this puzzle. Every step felt logical, no keeping track of options, ridiculous amounts of bifurcation...etc

[@christopherhogen6753]

54:50 there was a 1,2,3,4 down column that you could have used to work out the 5. Just so you know

[@Stevedawhoop]

simon need another person to play with him and just helped him scans

[@Orenotter]

This fog-covered grid is distressing. I'm really no great fan of guessing. Oh! That's one, four and two! Our first digit's placed. Whew! Boy, those black kropki dots are a blessing!

[@zincfive]

Nice 1!

[@jonhansen9622]

LOVE The Fog Puzzles!

[@SuperPlienie]

Fog of war!❤ So happy it is Simon's new favourite as well!

[@bossdoorpodcast]

Wow I finished it. Thankfully it looks like Simon got stuck everywhere I did and I'm not just blind lol. Great puzzle, weirdly difficult, really enjoyed it.

[@PotmosHetoimos]

I don't normally do the puzzle before watching but this one looked irresistible - 49:14 for my solve! Lots of really enjoyable logic!

[@ib9rt]

I continue to be amused at Simon doing these tricky puzzles and stubbornly failing to scan and failing follow up on the easy Sudoku bits. Maybe Simon needs a flashing reminder on the screen, "Do Sudoku", "Do Sudoku" 🙂

[@grahamania]

58:08 for me. Wonderful puzzle with great logic to eliminate possible numbers on the lines to force the other digits. Kind Comment.

[@etienneschramm83]

43 min for me. I really loved it. I think fog is my favorite special rule.

[@MarcusTheDorkus]

All that sudoku in this sudoku actually let me beat Simon's time!

[@joshrobbins4853]

"We're resorting to sudoku." Lol!

[@wrenbo4816]

new member to the community. love the videos, love the solves, and it feels so lovely to receive a shoutout to the queer community as well which i am a proud member of! keep it up! ❤️

[@MyriamTT]

44:24 Simon cant quite see how to do the puzzle because he does not like todo Sudoku!

[@crazypantaloons]

Took me the whole puzzle to realize every line had a 5 on it. Better late than never!

[@EsmeraldaKleinreesink]

Thank you Simon for your lovely words! I don't mind being 50. Do you? You're from 1973 too, aren't you? Your pronounciation of Annemarie was spot on this time. Four syllables in Dutch indeed. Now we need to work on Dieneke (Di-na-ka). Stress is on the first syllable. Di from "divorce", na from 'nano' ka from 'calender'. And Joost. A double oo in Dutch sounds like the 'oa' from 'goat'.

[@KevFrost]

I'm going to guess that under the fog is... a set of the digits one to nine. Maybe eight to ten of them.

[@AFT3RDAY5]

After a quick start I was totally dumbfounded for some time. Luckily I got through in the end 😄 This is a very beautiful puzzle. Congratulations to gdc 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@brianarsuaga5008]

Woof, this is just about the toughest fog I've done so far. Maybe just because I seemed to really struggle with sudoku in my sudoku puzzle.

[@HunterJE]

50:54 One way to use the deduction that the line with an end at r3c5 must get its 5 from box 1-since the line already has three cells in box 2 it can only ever extend at most 2 cells in to box 5, which means 5 in box 1 must be in columns 2 or 3, which combined with the 5 pencil marks in box 2 leaves only r9c1 for the 5 in box 3...

[@chris5619]

That's exactly what I saw.

[@MrGrog90]

Good spot! Once the fog in R2C6 clears, it is possible to place fives in boxes 2 and 7 via X-wings.

[@MarcusTheDorkus]

47:39 Puzzle had a good flow and the hidden renbans weren't too hard since the lengths were known.

[@piarittersporn]

Brilliant and exciting puzzle. I love foggies.

[@Stevedawhoop]

naked single 2 at bottom row is killing me

[@Mennoo_]

30:05 for me. Funny, just solved this sudoku this afternoon, and now it gets featured. This was a nice puzzle, had some very neat tricks in it which definitely were not easy to spot

[@GoldenredDragon]

This was on the limit of impossible for me, yet I managed through 96 minutes of effort. Wow. Thank you for explaining the shenanigans with the 2 at the end, as I had to try out all the possibilities to get it, and that was painful bifurcation with no understanding...

[@KittKattRED]

I wish there was a black bar or something along the bottom so that the subtitles wouldn't cover the puzzle.

[@matthewjohnson6360]

It's hard to see the pencil marks in the fog.

[@six_5000]

49:22 the fog seemed extra foggy today

[@inspiringsand123]

Rules: 05:49 Let's Get Cracking: 08:24 Simon's time: 50m49s Puzzle Solved: 59:13 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 2x (47:49, 55:36) ​Scooby-Doo: 1x (51:28) Maverick: 1x (10:29) Phistomefel: 1x (02:09) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 14x (11:55, 15:03, 16:25, 32:30, 39:29, 40:02, 40:48, 47:33, 48:06, 50:15, 54:48, 55:47, 56:11, 58:07) Beautiful: 8x (22:50, 47:56, 58:12, 59:06, 59:09, 59:26, 59:36, 1:00:09) Pencil Mark/mark: 8x (14:38, 14:40, 29:14, 35:10, 35:41, 37:21, 40:34, 52:19) Lovely: 5x (15:06, 15:08, 15:43, 15:46, 31:11) Wow: 5x (21:49, 24:33, 45:23, 50:47, 57:35) The Answer is: 4x (15:36, 24:15, 39:51, 51:26) Brilliant: 4x (00:37, 05:11, 1:00:09, 1:00:13) By Sudoku: 4x (22:29, 24:05, 57:18, 58:30) Hang On: 4x (14:50, 19:20, 30:01, 34:52) In Fact: 4x (02:21, 12:56, 12:56, 21:22) Goodness: 2x (15:53, 15:53) Bother: 2x (18:11, 27:24) Clever: 2x (22:53, 45:29) Naughty: 2x (19:35, 34:42) Stuck: 2x (38:34, 38:34) Gorgeous: 2x (56:11, 56:13) Shouting: 2x (04:27, 05:22) Cake!: 2x (04:19, 04:46) Good Grief: 1x (39:40) What on Earth: 1x (19:45) Useless: 1x (32:30) Sorry: 1x (44:13) Naked Single: 1x (32:14) Nonsense: 1x (22:40) Bingo: 1x (46:56) In the Spotlight: 1x (47:52) Fascinating: 1x (40:34) Discombobulating: 1x (49:41) Our old Friend Sudoku: 1x (25:16) Come on Simon: 1x (53:29) Disappointing: 1x (47:33) Whoopsie: 1x (56:51) We Can Do Better Than That: 1x (25:28) Almost Interesting: 1x (13:31) Nature: 1x (11:18) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Seventy Eight (14 mentions) Four, Five (97 mentions) White (8 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (14) - Low (12) Even (5) - Odd (1) White (8) - Black (6) Column (21) - Row (14) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

[@Raven-Creations]

Another cracking FoW puzzle. Not hard, but not one you could rush through either, which is quite a nice balance. Although you were missing some sudoku-related things, you weren't too bad today. Your worst one was that you had a cell pencil-marked 12345 in box 1, when there were already 1, 2, 3, and 4 in the column. This was probably the most blatant naked single in the history of the channel, but you missed it. Early on, once you'd revealed the three line tips in box 8, you could have asked where 1 goes in the box. It couldn't go on the bottom because it was pencil-marked in R9 in box 9. It couldn't go in the top, because it would have needed one of 2345, and the other cell sees all of them, so 1 had to go on the middle line, making it 1-5, and that meant there had to be 125 in R8 and 34 in C3.

[@awilliams1701]

While I would prefer it if you could pull all the old apps into the new one so there was just 1 single app for all, I do like the fact that at least on android you've been updating the old apps. The first one was classic which now finally has not just the new interface, but more importantly the smart hint feature (it was the only app that didn't have this). I noticed that killer sudoku has been updated and I can actually play it on my tablet now. Before it was impossible because in landscape orientation (which is the only way to use a tablet) the candidates window overlaps with the grid. I did check to see if miracle sudoku got the update a month ago. It didn't. Any puzzle with killer or sandwich clues is unplayable unless they have the new UI (like the killer app does). I believe last I saw it was just killer and classic that have the new interface. It's also a huge improvement not being limited to just 3 colors anymore. Many of the puzzles become difficult with only 3 non-overlapping colors. So yeah it would be nice if you could update them all. But ultimately I would love it if there could be 1 single app to rule them all. Then I only need 1 icon instead of like 10. lol

[@awilliams1701]

last I saw the apps were not updated on steam, but I never had any issues on my 2in1 so I actually could play all the puzzles and apps.

[@sully51]

I would love to have all the apps joined into 1 just because I don't want to buy an app for just one type of puzzle. I want to be able to go back and forth without buying 5 different apps lol.

[@awilliams1701]

@@sully51 that would be convenient. I do have all of them, but I don't mind re-buying them for the the convenience.

[@chomikhunter]

36:21! Really great FoW puzzle!

[@donaldsnyder1543]

It took me 80+ mins but I did it lol. I came at box 9 from a different way. Once I knew the line waz 45678 I could place 7 & 8 on the dot in box 9 leaving the 9 off and making the 139 trip. On the w line in boxes 1 & 4 I realized you could only have one of 7 8 or 9 off the line in box 4 , which meant r3 c3 could be reduced to 789.

[@sonalita_]

@Simon, your solve times as reported by the solver are inflated by your preamble, you should do as Mark does and reset the puzzle as you say “Let’s get cracking”

[@ericpraline1302]

I actually found this quite tricky, but I think I didn't have my eye in properly and missed one or two things. Good puzzle.

[@philipcoltharp918]

Timemark 54:02 helped me see the solution that i couldnt see my self. Timemark 58:02, made me feel like i belong here as Simon forgot his point at 54:02.

[@PennyLapin]

Solved in 67:30. This was quite the puzzle, each nuance for how you have to interpret renban lines that you can only see part of makes for a head-scratching fog of war puzzle. Especially when the solution path is so strict that I was only able to make the breakthroughs in a very specific sequence!

[@MattYDdraig]

46:24 Got a bit caught up with a silly mistake on one of the lines but eventually caught it and got straightened out. The interactions with the partially revealed renbans and pencil-marked 5s was a clever touch

[@torthorsen818]

Wonderful. Thanks again, Simon.

[@Rach881101]

60:28 for me. Beautiful fog of war puzzle!

[@ThePolymathlete]

took me about 70 minutes. good puzzle!

[@hewholimpsmartin]

You solved this in under an hour 🤯 Going to be cleaning 'til tomorrow now; my mind is all over the place

[@isidornimages]

Didn't try this puzzle, so not sure I would have got any further than the starting digit. But I don't think I've watched a puzzle solve by Simon where I've shouted at the screen for so many different things. As others have said, never change Simon.

[@PauxloE]

119:17, solve counter 2034. The start was easy to find, but somehow I then got bogged down.

[@DarrenNakamura]

Finished in 92:18. Fantastic puzzle!

[@avz1865]

Loved that finish :)

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

i got lucky. for some reason, i never considered that 4 could be on the renban in the corner of box 9. i totally didn’t see the beautiful logic of 2 4’s knocking out the renban 4’s.

[@jongurney3810]

at 24:37, why doesn't the line turn up? Couldn't it be a 6 in r8c2?

[@MrGrog90]

If the line turned up it would peak out of the fog. It's the "nothing reveal" that allows you to deduce the shape of the line.

[@AngryKettle]

I know you're busy celebrating, but I'm waiting for that fog of war app/pack!!!

[@smylesg]

22:40 From now on, instead of "normal sudoku rules apply," I want to see "a mixture of nonsenses."

[@G.Aaron.Fisher]

27:40 I missed this deduction for about 15 minutes, looking at box 4 instead. Other than that bit of nonsense, I enjoyed the solve.

[@RicardoMorenoAlmeida]

73:24 for me without any help from Simon! Fog of war makes it doable, at least to begin, because it points you at where to focus. Great logical path! One of the first times I didn't struggle with renbans. YAY!!!!! Knowing that all of them must have a 5 really helped.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

I had a great start but then kept breaking it because I was careless. I'll try again after several hours have passed and I've hopefully forgotten the start. I tried it the next day and got it without issue in 47:40. I remembered a little from my first attempt, but was able to prove steps and find where I went wrong previously.

[@evelieningels9408]

Saw the first number almost immediately so decided to try it even though I've never tried any of the sudokus from the 1h vids and I was capable of completing it :D (in 82min, but still)

[@dorien99]

My time was 41:10, faster than the video length so thats great, helps that i'm quite familiar with rendan, and length 5 meaning a 5 is always on there helped a lot at the beginning. Got a bit lost in my pencil marking but overall a great puzzle!

[@zincfive]

It's interesting to watch Simon over time, how he often misses easy sudoko that mortals like us spot right away. It seems to me that some of the quick gains just advance a little, any way, and he's using that time to understand the next bits of logic. He's not concerned about speed, and he gets through some wicked puzzles that about a few handfuls of people on earth can solve. Another way he has gotten so good at finding logical paths is that he trains himself by being reticent to pencil marking, again honing his ability to follow the logic and not get bogged down doing eliminations. Mark tends to fill time by pencil marking to see what shows up and trying eliminations by chaining, so I think he's much quicker on a lot of puzzles and he's good at competitions, but I'd bet there are puzzles that he might get stuck on, where Simon would sneak through with his logic. I'd LOVE to see a series where Mark and Simon try the same puzzles, separately, I'd be it be really interesting to see their differences in style side by side.

[@AO968]

I think it's because Simon went from solving regular, "simple" sudokus in newspapers to doing viewer-made ones, that have become more and more complicated as time went on. As a result, he had to rewire his brain and learn different ways of solving puzzles. This probably led him to see the more obscure paths first, and then the straightforward ones.

[@daviddorazi2090]

At 24:38 Simon asserts that the renban line in row 9 is a straight line but for the life of me I can't fathom the logic that allowed him to make this deduction. Can someone please put me out of my misery? TIA

[@MrGrog90]

If the renban went up, it would peak out of the fog in R8C2; but since there is nothing visible, the line must continue straight into R9C1,. In other words: it's the "nothing reveal" after placing the 3 in box 7 that allows you to deduce that the last movement of the line must be to the left.

[@phuybrechts6875]

The 3 in box 6 lost it s religion for 15 minites 😁 . Please scan , Simon !

[@Roblilley999]

1:21 for me, made a couple of stupid mistakes and missed some easy clues.

[@mattiascrowe2549]

46 min! Very interesting

[@lukehudd5619]

Took me 1 hour 50 mins.. but! I did it hahaha 🎉

[@SilviuBurcea1]

1:54:33 for me. Top left corner was tough for me.

[@gatlygat]

Really really smart puzzle. Thanks.

[@jessegordon9726]

01:04:46 was my time. This was a fun puzzle!

[@MelissaW09]

35:11 "I do not deserve to know that." Me looking at my screen, trying to remember how I came up with the fours... "...yeaaaaaah, if it was a guess I got it right, and I'm gonna keep it XD I think I started counting all my 789 triples that I had all over the place... maybe... I don't remember. IM STILL KEEPING IT! Later edit: oh good. I had the 2s. Whoosh. Was deserved

[@MelissaW09]

Also me: *illogical logicing* but... but lines all need 5! This line needs 5 and 6, and yes, it could technically steal from next box, but the next lineALSO needs 5 and 6, and while I am guessing it might steal that from another box, the line in THAT box still needs a 5, and it can only go there if everyone is stealing from everybody else, and that would inevitably break sudoku rules! ...I know it makes sense in my brain, but sometimes I wait for Simon to explain something so my brain makes sense in English.

[@DWestheim]

Solved it only with assistance while watching back the video. Didn't see the triple pointed out at around 27:40. Went then back and finished in over 81 minutes. -.-

[@user-dw2rm2tm7n]

58:27, i thought he was going to use the cell I saw to complete it because it is on the Renban... R2C2 must appear in box 2, but cannot repeat on the Renban line, so it must go in R1C5 Then where does that go in box 3? it most go in Row 3, and be in R3C8. Since the options for R2C2 are 1, 2, and 3, and the options for R3C8 are 3 and 4, it must be a 3!

[@Broken__Reality]

When will the Line Sudoku pack be out on the Steam version of the Cracking the Cryptic App? I would love to buy and support the channel :) I would always talk to my housemate about the puzzles and it was only recently she started watching too and now she rants at me just as often. Feels good to share the joy.

[@frankjiang1857]

Finished in 37:43. Nearly made a wrong assumption because I didn't realize that 1 had to be in one of the 3 lines in box 8 and it could NOT be in the top line which made the 1 be in middle line. Fortunately, I caught it because I kept running into the problem that the top line had to contain one of 789 which rules out 1 from that line.

[@Kirbyfan87827]

Finished in 58:17 with help from the video.

[@aleksandrajanicka6949]

51:00 it's absolutely amazing that no line in r2c6 puts 5 in the bottom left corner. By the series of two questions: 1. Where does the renban starting at r3c5 get its five? 2. Where is the five in column 1?

[@MrGrog90]

gdc here. excellent spot! You can also ask a third question "where is 5 in row 3" to get another digit :)

[@stephenmccarthy1795]

No, the exciting thing is that 9 is knocked out of row 1 in column 3 or 4: I can’t remember which one now, but he was just discussing whether 9 could go in row 1 of these columns.

[@hereharehere]

"all five cell lines contain a five. Which is almost interesting". Fabulous if you will allow me to ignore the puzzling meaning of interesting.

[@darthrainbows]

Nice one, solved in 44:58.

[@harkelin]

Ooooh! Right as I hit bed!

[@avisian8063]

Inorite

[@Edos512]

32:36 kinda proud of the deductions made to get the line positions and that last 3 on box 2....

[@artursruseckis4242]

@MrGrog90 - wow, that was a quick reaction from you. I discovered my error the next minute I posted it and immediately deleted my comment. Yet you managed to notice and even reply to it! :) I was simply a bit frustrated that Simon did not go the same route as I did (as always he ignored easy write-ins just to get to the same result via complex multi-step logic) and at one point I just decided to comment without thinking too much about it. Great puzzle, enjoyed it a lot!

[@MrGrog90]

Thanks! I know what you mean: There was some low hanging fruit in row 9 and row 5 that simon didn't pick up. The funny thing is he saw all the clever steps immediately only got stuck because of simple stuff. I'm on the "never change simon, we love you for who you are" camp because I really enjoy seeing how he approaches things. But it can also cause a wired mixture of frustration and envy. Glad you enjoyed my puzzle! For the column 8 logic you were commenting on earlier, the intended path was to realize that (a) the renban can't turn right and (b) 9 must be on the top of the column.

[@artursruseckis4242]

@@MrGrog90 Exactly. That's the way I did it. But in order to force the 9 into top cell, first you have to rule it out from bottom which Simon refused to do, and that's exactly what caused my frustration - "you should not touch the renban before you haven't solved the 9s!" :D

[@sohein]

Did you get a bit lucky at 33:55 that the line in box 2 did not go down into box 5 and end up in r4c6? It's not so hard to see that it needs a 5, as you say shortly thereafter. Still, for the purist...

[@jimmyh2137]

what are you talking about? Maybe wrong timestamp?

[@RichSmith77]

The fog is already cleared in the top of box 5, and we can see there's no line drawn in any of those cells.

[@altreusplays]

It’s extremely rare to be able to get a digit that is completely in fog!

[@mikepictor]

62 minutes at the 59 minute video mark when 8:25 was let's get cracking time.... did he have to edit out part of th solve, or does the app clock run fast?

[@FredtenKley]

Not restarting the puzzle when starting the recording of the video or the solve.

[@leefisher6366]

10:15 - 10:18: Literally everyone else counting on their fingers... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Simon... 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

[@GreenMeansGOF]

At 25:12, row 9 column 6 has to be a 2.