Do You Know the UNSPOKEN Rules of Helldivers 2

[@EravinVT]

Save 20%+ on Games with Instant Gaming! www.instant-gaming.com/?igr=ERAVIN Hyped for the Warbond Announcement any day now Hopium! Arrowhead's gotta knock this coming week out of the park to get us back on track for sure! But in the meantime I hope you enjoyed this small guide to the basics of human decency on the internet!

[@MorganSaph]

7:10 I feel like this one happens mainly because of how patrols would spawn around every player before the 60-day patch. Before the patch, I would outright tell people not to call extract until we finished because I didn't want to deal with the sudden waves of patrols spawning around me while I was doing sub-objectives. It only became a good idea to call it early after the patch

[@slash4660]

I'd like a video on bug holes and fabricators. Like how often they spawn and what determines when they do spawn. Because currently i can go a few mins clearing a heavy bug nest with with very few or no bugs spawning at all and other times they don't stop spawning for a while.

[@AFKnaHSama]

2:33 except u have a supplys Pack and use it only for your teammates ammo/heal re-stock! in my eyes thats okay

[@AFKnaHSama]

6:23 or If u drop emancipator suit in Low Level Lobby .......

[@KriegerChristi]

I have to admit, I often call in reinforcements across the entire map, although it seems to me that most players have to be at least above level 25 to actually notice everyone spamming the "reinforce me please" button. Kinda wish my team mates actually bothered to do that, I've had a bunch of players leave the match out of frustration.

[@TrashBandido]

Rule #1: For democracy! Rule #2: Look cool Rule #3: If you can't look cool, refer to rule 1

[@EravinVT]

true

[@davidhines7592]

this message is democratically approved of.

[@MegaBrendanS]

The problem is that the people watching this video are not the ones who need to hear it 😅

[@SagaciousNihilist]

Universal gaming rule, if you can help it don't play with randoms.

[@augh-p4m]

Absolutely hate when someone reinforces me on the other side of the map. Like bro, it’s not a competition to reinforce fastest, wait 5 seconds and let my wingman reinforce me.

[@azayrian1052]

I understand this but I have had people waiting for like 4 minutes to respawn and the like and I feel bad for letting like 2 guys just sit in limbo waiting for the other guy to either die or somehow manage to reinforce.

[@handlesrstupid123]

I have noticed alot of people get really upset if they havent been called in 10sec, mean while its a horror show as everyone is trying to survive and the guy is spamming everything he can

[@be1withthewater]

You should really just be happy they took the time to revive u.

[@BIGmlems]

Im of the instant reinforcement crowd, but have also requested I be thrown at my stuff so it's back and forth.

[@IliumGaming]

i give it like 5-10 seconds for the wingman to do it and then I call em in.

[@halod2566]

That G3 death was the first time I’ve ever seen Eagle Storm friendly fire someone and it could not have happened in a more karmic justice sort of way. Beautiful

[@arthurvilain7270]

I've noticed that the eagle storm strafing runs target enemies close to any player, but their direction is always based on the host. If there are enemies between you and the host, you risk an eagle coming at your position from the front, which is quite dangerous.

[@baconlover09423]

I've been killed by the eagle storm quite a lot of times, I'm surprised that no one is really complaining about it

[@zssdfounder4607]

@@baconlover09423 I've only had it happen many twice? its fairly rare as long as your with the session host and at minimal not have enemies between you and said host. Unlike a certain planitary bombardment...

[@heyyou9472]

@@baconlover09423 might just be me but it really wasn't an issue at all, not a single death to the strafes. i just treat it like an AOE strata when the hazard notification pops up. the eagles are VERY eager to strafe, so either you got real unlucky or you rushed towards some enemies.

[@ItIsInFactMe]

@@heyyou9472 problem is at extract when there are no enemies, the strafe sometimes just goes across the extraction zone exclusively on top of the team. I have been killed like this about 4 times now being directly impacted by the strafes with no enemies around. Otherwise it awesome when there are enemies to target with minimal friendly fire

[@moeckinho123]

3 more rules: 1 - Mark the defective hellbombs on the map (and let them to use when needed) 2 - Mark your sentry when it lands 3 - Mark hellbombs you just armed

[@CastorShell05]

unless of course you launch from the ship into a defective hellbomb and pop out of your pod just to get blown up. Happened to me lol

[@ianchoi7142]

I matched up with 3 LV~20s last night, called out a hellbomb that less than 20m away from us and what does one of them do the moment bots started rushing us? Kaboom. With us in it.

[@LostRiver77]

Never thought of marking sentries

[@rossiyskiy_uragan]

Hellbombs? I died 7x times unnecessarily because marked the hellbombs, teammates shot at it. Marfark. Zero reinforcement because of it..

[@gamefan6142]

Thank god they added the hellbomb callout

[@AlexiDragomir]

For Flag Missions- throwing barrages too close to the flag is a HUGE pain in the ass as resetting the objective by having to move away from it just increases the amount of breaches/drops you have to contend with.

[@EravinVT]

yeah that's a real bad one

[@RiverWilliamson]

Do. Not. Gas. The. Flag. Jeez

[@sinteleon]

@@RiverWilliamson Had someone napalm orbital the flag outright. :P

[@harmless9336]

Always feels terrible. Feels worse however when you are trying to throw a barrage a proper distance away on flag and it gets shot out of you hand landing it exactly where you want it the least.

[@robertcalifornia9641]

I always assume it’s because they got ragdolled with the strategem in their hand. Surely no one’s actually stupid enough to do that on purpose righttt

[@Defa_Noob]

Really hoping we get a stealth focused warbond soon with some silenced weapons or even a new support sniper.

[@EravinVT]

please arrowhead

[@redline841]

Stealth and heavy focused warbond

[@Kattbirb]

I'd be content with getting some upgrade packs to existing weapons too. Tritium sights and a Suppressor for the Peacemaker? That would make it more appealing.

[@generaljedi8691]

Silenced smgs and pistols would be bomb! ODST!!!

[@hitandruncommentor]

Yeah would be great, especially against bots since usually the best for them is either heavy armor or stealth.

[@ZandorJhayme]

One polite / "good habit" I've learned from playing Deep Rock Galactic is to ask / let team mates know if we're ready for an objective that takes time/team power, or to call in the shuttle to get out. Really simple too: "R?" to ask if everyone else is Ready, and "R" to just state you are ready. Only takes a few seconds to make sure everyone is on the same page.

[@TheGooEater]

*presses V*

[@ZandorJhayme]

@TheGooEater ⛏️

[@atlaslee8681]

You can even go 👍👎 back to back using the wheel! Usually people interpret it as a yes, no? And with context like you’re the only one at extract or at the seismic scan, people can pick up your meaning pretty well I’ve found!

[@jaidev777]

One problem I have with this game unfortunately is somehow I keep missing the text messages. Yet in DRG I always notice them just fine. Wish Arrowhead would tweak that.

[@TrixterTheFemboy]

@@TheGooEater Did I hear a rock and stone?

[@WhereIsNaldo]

Getting kicked from a PUBLIC match when people are playing with their friends only is annoying too

[@OnFoenemGrave.]

@@WhereIsNaldo yeah I’ve been kicked from 3 games today alone. Invite only matchmaking is there for s reason

[@madeingermany9445]

When i play my lobby is always on friends only so i don't have to kick out people.

[@whattheshep6814]

Never had any idea you could make a game friends only. We always have a random pubbie joining us but we usually don't kick.

[@Vigil325]

@WhereIsNaldo sometimes I just forget to turn off public matchmaking lol

[@1463sirmatt]

Yes, this

[@ploffs]

I feel like another thing I wish was more common knowledge is that if you've died multiple times alone, you should probably just stick to the team to avoid burning our reinforcement budget

[@C_L_A_R_K_E]

Perhaps whatever they were doing is more important than the objective that you were worried about. I mainly solo and clear 2/3 of a map to myself before the other three people have finished the two main objectives. Sometimes it can be a bit annoying to clear three medium bases when there's an eye of sauron stuck in the middle of them and it's flanked by a aircraft factory.

[@shrouded8797]

@@ploffs This just happened while I was diving on Matar Bay today. The poor guy died five times while we were launching an ICBM. I understand the desire to solo-I do it sometimes-but you got to know when you're outmatched. No shame in sticking with the squad.

[@generaljedi8691]

Especially if you’re trying to test higher levels. I see so many

[@rossiyskiy_uragan]

About solo thing. Yes they can try do solo, but at their own lobby.. try solo on affordable difficulty but not on someone lobby.

[@danielneeds4351]

Thank you

[@AndroidIdentity]

The one about reinforcing gets thrown out the window on pubs constantly. I have to always race team mates on the other side of the map to reinforce my friend or battle buddy before they got tossed at the feet of the other pair in record time, leaving me to fend for myself for the next 10 minutes with nothing but a machinegun and a dream... conversely, whenever I need reinforced, it usually takes me asking in chat over and over until somebody notices...

[@EravinVT]

wild

[@mist12345678910]

I once got reinforced across the map, leaving my buddy defenseless. So I killed the guy who reinforced me, then myself. My buddy now has 2 extra hell divers to help him out now

[@dakota9821]

@@mist12345678910 based

[@krevetka9744]

Type "REINFORCE" for huge red chat message. Works every time.

[@MajorMasonGaming]

Not worth it, kick and block and move on

[@tj4y48]

I would like to share an experience regarding the first rule mentioned: Teammate running the RR dies. I recently died as well, and donr have a support weapon. I'm close, so i pick up the weapon and backpack and shoot a charger close by. While he is getting reinforced, I start reloading it for him so he can use it right away after i drop it. Instead of waiting or asking me in chat, he immediately stabs me in the face with his constitution bayonet. One of the ver, very few instances i actually kick people.

[@Vuntermonkey]

I was in a level 8 (I don't like to sweat too much) with a group of randoms, all 20-something levels who didn't know what to do. Kept getting team killed by accident, eventually got my gear stolen (RR) and watched the guy fail to use it right in front of me. Diving all around like a concussed fish, failing to load, missing shots. Incoming fire wasn't even that bad and I was just standing out in the open behind him watching the whole thing. I couldn't take it anymore and just left the match. I've only left a handful of times but this was horrible.

[@dudeinanofficechair7662]

​@@VuntermonkeyI had one match where we dropped in, I called down my amr, dealt with a couple troopers looking our way and turned around to see my squadmate pick up the AMR, mag dump into the ground, drop it and run off. Proceeded to watch them engage every bot they saw for the rest of the match and get on the pelican as soon as it touched down despite having another teammate a third of the way across the map. smh. Still don't know how someone who can figure out how to drop something can't figure anything else out.

[@psychodoxie6987]

​@@dudeinanofficechair7662I think we should be able to report people for stealing our stuff and in general just being a dick and them they can only play with other people that have been reported for the same stuff

[@gonggonglive]

@@dudeinanofficechair7662 it’s pretty obvious that this player was doing everything on purpose. They intentionally magdumped your rifle. And I’m 90% sure that them engaging every patrol they see is a tactic to make your game harder and unpleasant.

[@dudeinanofficechair7662]

@@gonggonglive I don't know how to describe it, but if they were doing it on purpose they were a master class troll, causing constant minor irritation while flying completely under the radar. Died a lot, but not as much as you would on purpose to exhaust the reinforcement budget. I think they completed an objective, but slowly. They could have called in extraction faster and left both of us behind but didn't, they could have "accidentally" called down 380s on us, but didn't. They could have called in supply drops in bad places but didn't. They could have played long times without reinforcing but didn't. Everything they did poorly screamed "kid who doesn't understand how the controls and game mechanics work but is trying to have fun".

[@Ima9ineBreak3r]

Thank you, Eravin, for putting this out. The rule about "the person closest to the death calls the reinforcements" needs to be known far and wide. Another thing I would suggest is that when calling in reinforcements in the middle of a large fight, marking large targets for the hellpods to squash should they so choose is very nice as well. Also, I just had my first successful stealth run in a Super Helldive lobby. I told my team I would split off, and cleared about 35% of the map solo with no problems. Your previous stealth guide was SUPER helpful in educating me in how to carry the mission out. Thank you!

[@wumbosaurus9121]

Had a diver join mid game and land directly on a hellbomb that I had marked and obliterated two of us. Just gave him a lol in chat as it was funny and he meant well

[@umjackd]

Tagging is a great tip. On respawn I always want to hit something but can't really see clearly where I should be aiming at.

[@boobookachoo]

Omg the pinging the patrols one. I literally ping to NOT engage all the time.

[@jonathanm180]

@@boobookachoo yeah. Ping also can mean “do not shoot that!”

[@arcanealchemist3190]

@boobookachoo yeah. the only reason I ping a patrol is to say "don't walk into that, dummy."

[@huff_designs]

Hippity Hoppity your EAT is my property

[@EravinVT]

lol

[@RichardJr-nk8yf]

Lol

[@Eenbeenmaster]

S tier comment

[@TrollingWolfGaming]

But of course! That's why I've been spamming them every time the cooldown is up. I love saturating a map with free antitank :D

[@Geckogold]

I think when we're under heavy attack, whoever calls the EAT down doesn't care who uses it, so long as we take care of whatever we needed to use it against.

[@zarcai]

Another rule if a helldiver drops the samples in evac leave it there, don't pick them up just to die 2Km away to a bug breach

[@Vuntermonkey]

I like to pick up all the sample containers to consolidate them.

[@trathanstargazer6421]

​@@VuntermonkeyThat is fine as long as you drop it back down.

[@mrjamabear2545]

I like to drop off my samples anytime I pass by the extraction point, especially if it means I can wander off to look for a hidden subobjective

[@AdampadamSwine]

I got kicked for doing this, I stumbled onto the super samples, then using the jet pack crossed the map as fast as possible at extract also letting everyone know I was doing this in chat and got kicked for “leaving the group”. 🤦🏻

[@askel6498]

One rule I'd like every Helldiver to know. Pls pls pls watch the chat or at least pay attention to what your teammates around you do and ping. I always run with one of the guard dogs or the personal shield and everytime I see someone not having any backpack in their loadout I tell them I'll drop them one, or run up to them, drop my backpack and ping it so they take it and I can call myself a new one. Often times I just get completely ignored and it's frustrating.

[@zssdfounder4607]

My god i've had this happen. some people have 0 situational awareness beond their tunnel vision and its a merical they even remember to breath. As a stim pistole user I often try pinging a players feet repeatedly and even run up on their back and they still don't get the hint to hold the f still so I can stim them. sometimes even on coms people strait up ignore me saying [L4] [D2] exetra.

[@jaidev777]

Maybe it's just me but I almost always don't notice the chat *but I want to.* I would play then happen to notice a message or remember to check -- only to realize there were 10 previous messages all of which went unseen by me 20 minutes ago. Yet in DRG I never have this issue. Really hoping Arrowhead tweaks the chat thing to just make it easier to notice.

[@DTA316DTA]

I almost always have the Jump Pack with me, but on the rare occasion that I don't if someone drops a Guard Dog laser I'll ignore it because I can't stand that thing. Causes me more damage when others run it, I'm not going to be the cause of damage by running it myself.

[@wumbosaurus9121]

​@@zssdfounder4607You can say "Hold Position" in your comm wheel but at that point I'm not sure it would help

[@mrjamabear2545]

@@wumbosaurus9121I’ve been doing that a lot recently for eagle cluster, pinging hold position works 1/2 the time as long as your lobby remembers you brought that stratagem

[@C0CA-LT]

I had so many bad dives today; teammates reinforcing cross-map away from my equipment, calling in Pelican One and boarding it while I was too far away and holding the samples, taking my backpack after my Helldiver just died... surely it can't be THAT hard to use your brain.

[@TheVaged]

Play in 10's. You won't run into these problems nearly as much. The players are also better, so it doesn't even feel like the hardest setting.

[@C0CA-LT]

@@TheVaged I was playing low difficulty for a quick rare sample since I had 199 - it was for my final ship upgrade - I just didn't expect the randoms to be bad like that. I actually just unlocked Super Helldive last night! Looking forward to diving more often once the semester rounds out and finals are over with.

[@dudeinanofficechair7662]

​@@C0CA-LTI play most of my matches random. The cross map reinforce happens. I assume they either think someone else died, or didn't realize how far away you were. Some randoms will also start spamming the request reinforce if no one calls them back in immediately. So some people just call it in as soon as someone dies. Boarding the pelican early is something I haven't seen more than once or twice. The only thing I can think is you were low on reinforcements and they didn't think you could make it before everyone died so they boarded with what they had. Or they are idiots. That's always a possibility. Also, it doesn't really feel like helldivers if everyone has time to make good decisions all the time. I thought half the point was the crazy firefighters where a factory strider gets dropped on your head while your trying to deal with a shredder tank and a pair of gunships. During those I don't blame people for calling reinforcements wrong or occasionally dropping a 500kg in the wrong place.

[@Geckogold]

I've noticed it's usually newer, lower level players that might call in Pelican-1 early on as soon as they reach the extraction zone. Sometimes they'll know to wait, especially if they see others are running around the map getting POI's or secondary objectives done. Once in a rare while they'll jump in the pelican as soon as it arrives, even after I type a few times to wait. Sometimes I'm close enough that I'll make barely make it (and sometimes someone else stands on the door to allow that extra 2-3 seconds before it really leaves). Other times I'm nowhere near and the cutscene of it taking off plays. I'll make sure to remind them of all the samples they just lost out on because they couldn't wait a few more seconds for me to get back. I'm capped on everything besides super credits, so I could just be lazy and not pick any up. But I like to do it because I know many other players still need them, so I'm really doing it for their sake. Thankfully most players understand that without me having to tell them.

[@papahemmy8587]

Honestly, the biggest unspoken rule for me is to just not be rude

[@TheGooEater]

People kicked me for stating facts without any subtext. Like if you point out the legs on armored strider can be shot off and the guy dies to it you're an asshole and should be kicked. Or if i say that its stupid to call in the flag before team dealt with the jammer nearby. It is stupid, i won't waste time you just took from the rest of us to say please and sorry. It's not my goal to upset you, but that's should be the default setting of your mind, not ours.

[@rickrollrick1373]

@@papahemmy8587 Same. It's incredibly disheartening when I jump into a match, and the first thing I hear is one guy bullying the rest of the team over voice chat.

[@MorganSaph]

The discord breaks that rule. And 99% of the issues I've had were from mid-high level players on PS. In one match, a guy was fighting a trooper, either he or the trooper hit a hellbomb and he dies, dude blames me cause I was nearby. I was on the other side of a detector tower picking up samples. (He was also a PS player. most of the toxic players are PS players, from my experience)

[@DustedTaint]

@@MorganSaphI experience toxic pc players all the time.

[@TheGooEater]

​@@MorganSaph non communicative, oblivious to voicelines and markers. Yes, new players and ps players. Never heard them laugh off the unexpected death. Pc players more respectful of voice chat and often crack jokes around misfortune.

[@Suhayl_Khatib]

I wish I could show this video to the randoms my wife and I played with. We were stuck on the first flag for about 10 minutes because someone threw a 380 on objective. And then someone else did.

[@Suhayl_Khatib]

And then someone else threw a napalm barrage. We were on bots 10. The flag reset a lot. I felt like rage quitting.

[@hotshot590]

Honestly? They were probably trolling and you should’ve just kicked them.

[@Jopeth23]

Always thank your teammates who saved your ass by choosing "😊 Thank you!" on the emote wheel. And if someone thanks you, always reply "👍 Affirmative!". A good Helldiver is a polite Helldiver. 😁

[@generaljedi8691]

Yes! Communication in battle is key, but when you are aware enough to see when others are helping/covering you and point it out, it makes the game 3x better!

[@pyllette]

I've made that a habit since I hardly chat to randoms

[@TheGhastlyGuardian]

I love using the chatwheel/pings to communicate with people. I know my intent is autotranslated when i encounter a language barrier over mic.

[@Sh1ranu1]

I wish we had a “hell yeah” emote

[@marccreach9327]

💯👍

[@renegalvan4957]

Most annoying death and kick I got was when I salvaged some dudes gear a jump pack and quasar say out loud with mic that I brought their gear and just as I’m dropping their quasar I get shot and kicked truly got me livid

[@thisiswhatilike54]

You’re just giving back what was theirs and that’s the thanks you get. Ungrateful…

[@sdstig]

Most annoying kick I ever got was going through an entire mission that took nearly the whole mission time and then a bit before extract, as I was going out a bit to fire at approaching bugs to cover for the team, the host came over the chat (everyone was silent the whole game) saying "hey don't attract patrols so much" and then kicked me. I was mostly on my own the whole game and had all the samples. I still don't understand it but it stuck with me.

[@J.B.1982]

Always remember, gamers can be emotionally unintelligent social rejects. I’m always baffled by the lack of comms talk over basic stuff. Basic. This video exists because of it.

[@dragonwalkerdew]

Honestly, for the clip of calling extract early: That makes me think Eagle-1 was in that wave of Eagle Storm, and she took particular offense to G3's tirade. It just means she gets to see Pelican-1 earlier after all in a roundabout way.

[@EravinVT]

this is true

[@mcwolves71]

Eravin using the HD2 slow period to pump out CONTENT.

[@kryptosegnyte3527]

The only reason I see people getting reinforced on other side of map more often than not is becauze there are teammates that just won't take the initiative to reinforce like if you wait patiently youll be waiting 2-3 minutes maybe more and eventually someone ends up reinforcing but it's never near the spot where you died.

[@BuddhaJube]

If someone keeps spamming reinforcement, I'll call them in even if I'm nowhere near them. So if you just want back in the action spam, if not just wait. Likely your position is in a bit of trouble and just need a moment to call you in.

[@gilavx999]

exactly, a simple solution

[@rossiyskiy_uragan]

THIS. I’m so tired of people spamming reinforcement request, knowing we’re busy engaging enemy, get mad in chat and game voice. Also during the time i in jammer range, need to take it out. Some match those random left after few seconds delay to reinforce them. Good, i don’t need them to waste reinforcement units for a single side objective

[@hrs.ai2018]

Me too

[@MrVelociraptor75]

@@rossiyskiy_uragan Yeah that's really weird, I've had heaps of people start spamming the reinforce instantly as they die (so there's not even time for them to get upset at not being called in...), then leave the game a few seconds later*. The really dumb thing is, they'll be waiting several minutes to get a new game, instead of seconds to respawn. I always have a quick look through the players to see what the holdup is and only spam when it's obvious they haven't noticed I'm dead (like if they're standing around doing effall) * - for their sake, I'm hoping it's the game crashing and not their complete stupidity

[@King_CreepaLot]

Surprisingly I've never had anybody take my call ins, resupplies on the other hand, sure. At extraction I'll summon an extra backpack/support weapon and ping it for anybody interested, though oftentimes they don't pick those up either. I like to find somebody going off by themselves and stick to them, give them some sort of support - even if it's just tossing a stun grenade at a group chasing them.

[@TheHarrisontemple]

I had one cadet take a commando becusse the call who called it didn't pick it up fast enough about 5 minutes i explained that it was bad and gow to drop it and he did immediately so i let him use my arc thrower for being willing to learn.

[@epgamer1145]

Right. I don’t think that’s usual muscle memory especially when the Helldiver has samples

[@mcarpen89]

Veteran helldivers are going to be the most superstitious soldiers of all time. "Always tag the resupply pod!" "Don't shoot the bile titan while it's spitting!" "Emote if you get launched into the air"

[@TheGooEater]

2 of those are already not working, so new players won't understand why to do that. But for the respect of veterans they'll try to follow it and pass the knowledge to newer helldivers. Those won't ever understand why.

[@ATOMarchive]

@@TheGooEater bro discovered tradition

[@Mark_Wilson1983]

Erm the bile titan is at it's weakest when it's spitting.... Literally a quick squeeze of a HMG can take one down if you hit it in the mouth. They're honestly less of an issue than impalers

[@MegaBrendanS]

5:20 A great tip is to run in FRONT of the arty shell. That way, the speed from it going From the ground To your hands is transferred for that throw.

[@225Reaver]

If youre calling extract early, just say or type before you call it "will wait at extract till you're here" Takes less than 10 seconds and will let people know you aren't just going to bail on them.

[@swordsman1_messer]

1. Minimize crossing someone’s line of fire if you’re both shooting in the same direction. 2. Mortar sentries should be deployed right next to you when you need to hold a position for a while. If you’re heading out, better to destroy it. 3. All other sentries (bar EMS) should be placed not where they have good LoS to cover a wide area, *but somewhere it can’t fire back towards the area you want to be in * (ex other side of a rock/butte). 4.Dicking around for fun is only allowed so long as you got the reinforcements. Knock it off once you get to 50% reserves, and cease all further actions at 25%. 5. If you are calling in a barrage, throw it further than you think you’ll need it. Walk it out a bit in most cases, and run back.

[@generaljedi8691]

Don’t ever bring the mortar sentry on bugs. Yes, you killed that hunter or scavenger that snuck up on you, but there is now 3 shells headed your way in the next 3 seconds. RUN!!!

[@swordsman1_messer]

@ that’s why you fight right next to it. Even with scattering, the mortar can only target enemies further than 10-15m.

[@225Reaver]

​@@swordsman1_messerDoesn't help when mortar guy doesn't call out where he's dropping his sentry and it gibs his teammates. Also, it also impinges on other people's playstyles. Your strategy is basically saying "whenever I call down my mortar sentry, everyone has to immediately run over to me huddle within 15 meters of me and if you don't it's your fault my mortar killed you" At least you have the decency to blow it up once the team is advancing rather than treat it like a fire and forget weapon I see so many people carelessly use it as.

[@Bigcountry-zp1pq]

I like being reinforced in the heat of battle and my teammates ping the factory strider throw me right into the middle of it i love it 😂

[@sinteleon]

Thermite spam go!

[@epgamer1145]

Like you are the panic missile

[@hbk4570]

You are the bullet, solider !

[@J.B.1982]

That’s the best way to take out a heavy in the middle of a chaotic battle.

[@MinnesotaCouchpotato]

Perhaps I can suggest another rule. When playing with stealth players, don't shoot everything in sight. I had a few games where I was sneaking into an enemy base, and the random players with me all ran in guns blazing. Before I knew it, we were dealing with multiple flame hulks, tanks, a dozen devistators, and a factory strider. During a different game, I worked well with a different player. We would take objectives two at a time. He would go into his objective making noise and drawing enemy reinforcements his way while I would quietly take out my objective. Whoever finished first would then go to back up the other player. Rinse and repeat for a quick and complete map clear. It was fun. TLDR: If someone is being sneaky, don't attract unwanted attention by being noisy nearby.

[@gonggonglive]

Yesterday I was melee-ing a trooper to avoid detection and S2 started running in with his shotgun, shooting the trooper I was attacking… I died, of course. It was a shotgun and I was in melee range

[@loboseesthings6269]

We need a night vision similar to that filter at 8:30

[@chikirin9349]

Any idea what it might be? It's obviously reshade but I need this exact effect it looks perfect to me.

[@BriManeely]

Go watch his next stream! He talks about it regularly. You might also find a link in the description of his Livestream videos 🤘

[@BriManeely]

* find a link to the software

[@quintonb9870]

Man, this is all stuff i figured out for myself before hitting level 20 and figured by the time I was playing on Helldive people would all be on the same page about. Noooooope. It does seem better on super helldive at least. Also, one thing i would add: if a player drops samples at extract they're dropping them to be picked up AS you board the pelican. Not for some numpty to grab and run off and die. It took me less than 10 seconds to figure that out when i first saw a player drop samples. I immediately picked them up, then thought "wait, he must have dropped them for a reason" and I immediately dropped them.

[@stephenjackman984]

Thanks for the advice. Many of these are habits I've picked up through playing, so it's nice to see a formal(-ish) document outlining these expected courtesies. One unmentioned habit I've been working on is typing the order of shells loaded into chat (i.e. Nuke x1, HE x1, EX x2, Static x1) after completing the SEAF artillery so as to have a written record available to the team and remove much of the guesswork when calling it down.

[@robertcalifornia9641]

Def much appreciated when people do that. On the topic of seaf, do you load the best shells first or last? I thought everyone put the best ones first but one of my friends insists on the latter for some unlnown fking reason

[@stephenjackman984]

@@robertcalifornia9641 I prefer to load the "best" shells first (Nuke -> High Explosive -> Explosive/Napalm [depending on whether I'm fighting bots or bugs] -> Static Field - > Smoke) I assume that the 1st shell will definitely be fired while the last shell may never be fired before the team evacs. I'd be interested to know why your friend tends to load the gun the reverse way. Do they think the first shell loaded is fired last, while the last shell loaded is fired first? I've met a few people who think like that.

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

I have friends thatake *liberal* use of the SEAF, and I mean, using it unnecessarily to kill non life threatening groups of enemies while they have otger stratagems, instead of keeping it for OH SHIT situations. Not the most tactical thing, but I get it. I think it comes from the desire to *actually use the seaf for once* because A) seaf is rarely needed so it's finez right? B) if someone else calls it in before you do, too bad for you. This is why I almost never get to fire the seaf xD. I like to keep it for when we really need it

[@suntzuthesecond]

Some artillery etiquete: 1. Load up the most useful shells first; least useful ones last. In this regard, it is helpful to first gather up most/all the shells near the gun's autoloader before deciding which ones to load first. 2. The order of priority is usually: Mini Nuke > High Yield Explosive > Explosive > Napalm > Static > Smoke 3. Once you're done, call out the load order to the rest of your team. Voice is acceptable, but using text gives you and teammates something they can refer to later in the game in case anyone missed it or forgot. 4. If a Mini Nuke is available, try to save it for dangerous objectives that would otherwise require a Hell Bomb if you know there's one on the map, especially if someone spotted a Gunship Factory in the distance. The High Yield Explosive would be sufficient to take down Detector Towers (not sure if the Explosive shells work too).

[@MrVelociraptor75]

I'm pretty sure the Explosive shells hit the same as a precision strike (aka 380 shell) so they do take out Eye of Saurons (and research stations etc) - 3ish take out a command bunker too, I believe (at least Precision strikes do) I didn't know you could use the Nuke on gunship fabs though. How about the enemy artillery pieces? (or other "Hellbomb only" missions?)

[@igotbanned3timesfromyoutub883]

@@MrVelociraptor75 mini nuke is literally a hellbomb dawg

[@TheBenzdad]

You forgot... Don't turn on the console until AFTER the shells are gathered. Turning it on makes noise and attracts nearby enemies. If you wait to activate the console, you can usually load all the shells and leave before you are spotted.

[@suntzuthesecond]

@@TheBenzdad Some folks did pretty extensive testing on the game's patrol spawning awhile back. They found that being near objectives and enemy outposts (within 50m) is what increases the patrol spawn rate, and spending the time spent hanging around the same spot trying to load the gun (instead of staying on the move and - knowingly or unknowingly - get out of their way) means the patrol will almost certainly stumble into you. In their testing, it made no difference whether the artillery console was activated or not. The patrols kept coming at a predictable rate.

[@suntzuthesecond]

@@MrVelociraptor75 I haven't used it on the orbital cannons yet, but as far as I can tell, the Mini Nnukes are a reliable substitute for Hellbombs. Unfortunately, they seem very rare, especially on higher difficulties.

[@RichardHuffman]

This video should be part of Helldiver Basic Training. I've grumbled about each of these, but "Captain Reinforce Everyone to My Location As Quickly As Possible" is my personal pet peeve as a Scout Suit enjoyer.

[@discoj100]

Honestly, I wish more people would make use of my EATs on the ground. I often only run EAT as my strat and pray to find a lucky wep in a POI or have a nice diver drop me one of theirs when the 2nd CD is available. But I just think it has been so deeply ingrained in alot of players that you don't take other people's stuff. It makes sense for full-blown support weps, but please feel free to take some commandos or EATs and utilize them whenever you like! :P

[@nathangraham4551]

I rarely kick people from my games, but the other day I had one guy who might've been doing stealth when the rest of us were going tooth and claw against the bots. I kept tabs on him and watched in the death cams when I was down and finally kicked him when I realised he was 1) not doing any objective, main or sub 2) not collecting our dropped sample containers for us because 3) he was also "captain im going to reinforce you on this other side of the map". Never had such a miserable experience before

[@chibipotate]

Honestly Hovering Pelican-1 is such an overpowered feature, Its just an Immortal All-Seeing rain of Death from an unlimited-ammo, and i swear double-penetration Autocannon that enemies cant target, But so few people seem to know or care about its existence. The number of extracts where teams i play with have been utterly wiped out, when just having let Pelican 1 do his thing instead of instantly rushing the extract, Have been gigantic. Pelican 1 can wipe out enemy forces that a player-team would take 4 minutes work on, in a couple of seconds and the number of missions failed purely because someone breached the radius, is uncountable to me. We've literally had people walk or remain in the radius, Even when a teammember has been with them, they've both been on MIC, and our team member has been verbally telling them to back up out of the radius, so pelican 1 can handle them.

[@EravinVT]

when I'm asked if I think they'll nerf it I say no, and I say no because people get kicked for doing it lol

[@chibipotate]

@@EravinVT The amount of times i myself have been kicked trying to set it up is nuts, I'll just type up "Hey Guys, im going to go get Pelican-1 into Gunship Mode, Ill join the sample hunt once thats done" Just have the Host at the very least, or others going "NO YOU DONT TROLL! THATS NOT A FEATURE!" and kicking me. Or having someone sabotage a Pelican-1 Gunship mode setup because "I thought you were joking, That doesnt sound like a real or useful feature" is just... Euuugh

[@tehBIGivan]

I inadvertently picked up the wrong backpack, and when I went to drop it, I was killed by the rightful owner. There's a lesson to be learned in that situation, but I don't think anyone will learn it.

[@onewhoeatspie]

the lesson is press and hold X

[@MickGordon-i9i]

Grab samples thou. Drop them at the extraction zone. In case u lose them somewhere away far.

[@psychodoxie6987]

Something that ive noticed alot is people spliting up in 2 man squads automatically and it is alot more fun because it feels like me and my other teammate can communicate better than if we were all together

[@JackTGreat]

Here's one, call sentries between Helldiver positions and the enemy. Putting a sentry on the same position as Helldivers leads to a lot of avoidable friendly fire instances. It's especially annoying if you're using the rocket sentry.

[@byter75]

Being greedy with resupply is a no no but if you are by an objective (or a big base) it is generally more socially acceptable to call in some supplies (preemptively) to help aid in an obviously important task.

[@Birdzlitlehelpr]

Pretty much this whole list is why I don't join other people anymore and haven't for several months now. I play public, but only as the host so I can kick and/or not be worried about getting kicked by randoms

[@Armagilord123]

Important note for that first one about stealing gear: open your stratagem menu and you should be able to see the cooldowns of your entire team. If you need an ally's weapon and they can call a new one in you are usually clear to grab it. Typically you should decide by how far away they are from it. If they are a good distance away and clearly are not trying to get back to it, go ahead and use it at will. Worst case they ask for it back and you drop it for them. Do not grab it however if they are clearly making an effort to retrieve it, since they may want to save their next weapon for when they can't retrieve their current one.

[@benniebees]

More courtesy tips: Try to gauge if your teammates that activate extract do so with the intent of hovering the ship. Don't make the ship land by staying in the circle. Sometimes people do extraction first and then the mega nest for example. By making the ship land your team loses the free fire support. Secondly, let the person closest to a teammate's death location reinforce them. If nobody is close, you can reinforce them. Make a voice comm to tell them which direction to steer their pod when droppipng in. (The game robs the player of any way to orient themselves during the drop in, they need info to know which way to steer to drop closer to where they died.) You can call the heading in the compass. You can gain maximum throw distance towards their death location when reinforcing by forward diving and throwing at around 50 degrees up.

[@dakota9821]

"The game robs the player of any way to orient themselves during the drop in," Not really. Pay attention to the camera when it from spectating, to your hellpod; It's quite easy. While it certainly could be better, it's more than serviceable if you actually pay attention. Try using your eyes.

[@rossiyskiy_uragan]

There’s always one player rush to make pelican land.. It just so dumb

[@benniebees]

@@dakota9821 The camera transition from spectate to droppod only tells you where your droppod is relative to your spectated teammate, not where the droppod is relative to where you died. That's why calling the heading for your podding teammate helps.

[@Sapphire_Eye]

A great way to ask for exfil without voice or text chat is to just ping the beacon, in my experience, most players will ping an affirmative or negative on it

[@josiahtillman6273]

I personally love not taking a backpack in my loadout so I can help others with the faster reload and extra ammo cause only together can we show our enemies true liberty

[@ganivlach]

6:39 I still remember times when I was casually walking by myself, while my friends where screaming into mic something like "There is 6 chargers,2 bile titans and countless chargers on my back!!! HELP!!!"

[@NovaXXX7]

If your caring all/most of the samples. Get to the Chopper. Don't wait for me. Don't fool around. Just get to the chopper.

[@vladimiravich7260]

Another thing to add that should be an unspoken rule. Before dropping into a randos missions, take a quick peak at what gear your squad already brought and bring something to compliment it. If you are dropping in with two people using MGs on a bug mission and nobody brought an RR or any other anti-armor, then be the one to bring that anti-armor. Second thing is more personal preference above anything else, but I like to mark my turrets are soon as I drop them in so everybody gets a chance to see where it is less likely to accidentally run into it. Beyond that, fantastic advice as always Eravin!

[@nofear2193]

8:00 had the exact same situation. I explained what i was doing than they killed me and i got kicked (all level 100 players by the way)

[@A_CUP_OF_LIBER-TEE]

Wow that's stupid. And undemocratic.

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

It's been more than 6 months after a release. Even the weakest divers had their time to max out their ranks. The absolute worst randoms I've seen were lvl60+ on difficulty 3-4 when I was teaching my friend

[@MrJuggalo909]

@4:27 that ties back to the map awareness when you're respawning.

[@bayzul7405]

Extraction early is always welcome for convenience or Pelican support. People still get angry or its awkward and the games out 8 months or so. Good ol Eagle Storm

[@EravinVT]

I'm being the change I want to see

[@quintonb9870]

I think a lot of people don't realize it'll wait indefinitely if no one boards. As a new player that's what I thought, but by the time I was level 30 or so I had figured it out.

[@225Reaver]

If you're getting shouted at for calling pelican early, just take a moment and say or type "will wait at extract for you" Communicate clearly first then act. It goes both ways.

[@travisshaffer7035]

I like to wait for people to yell at me for calling in the pelican early. Then i can put them on ignore so that they dont play with me again

[@erby69]

I've had a lot of very democratic, and undemocratic, moments throughout my time playing. The most democratic moments were when a fellow RR user team reloaded to snipe a majority of bot fabs from 300m+ away. The most undemocratic moment was when a squeaker dissident thought it'd be funny to go out of his way and try to run me over in the Emancipator (I emancipated him from the mech, and the host emancipated him from the game).

[@chikirin9349]

Holy shit the host might've been me, I remember this exact thing happening, it was a bot jungle planet.

[@BouncingTribbles]

In 200 hours I've only had one guy outright steal my gear. I got back to my corpse and saw my RR backpack bobbing away from me. Checked my CD and realized I'd just called my second one down. Looked back and forth a couple times and just went back to my ship.

[@EravinVT]

oof

[@benniebees]

The map sometimes doesn't show your gear. It can still be there. It is not guaranteed that someone took your stuff if you can't find it. I've had this happen when killed by an impaler and thrown 100 meters away. The map no longer marked the gear, but I could find it where I fell on the ground.

[@BouncingTribbles]

@@benniebees I checked his call ins, lol, he didn't bring a backpack and his MG was sitting on my body. That was why left, I had mostly chaff call ins and was relying on the RR for Titans and Impalers. Even when things get buried they're still on the mini map, at least that I've seen. I don't think I've had any gear disappear on the mini map. Nothing like standing directly on a sample container that melted through the floor.

[@JuiceJive]

Same. I've got 400, usually matchmake, and it's happened twice. Both times were very new players.

[@Mike91975]

A slight variant on the "throw supplies towards your team mate." is to throw them in the direction you are going and into some cover (if against bots).

[@MrLM002]

Rule 1: Agreed, killable offense, except for the second EAT. Rule 2: Agreed. Most of my loadouts are big on ammo conservancy and or infinite ammo (Lasers and such) Rule 3: Agreed Rule 4: If you see a red beam nearby you should run, especially on Blitz missions with 120mm and 380mm Rule 5: 100%, being called to the opposite end of the map is awful, and it's usually a waste of resources. Rule 6: Agreed Rule 7: Haven't dealt with that much. Recently since I'm late game I split off and do main objectives. Rule 8: I don't do the hover trick, but I do ask before I call 99% of the time. I basically only join random games.

[@EravinVT]

appreciate the feedback from someone who plays quickplay

[@sinteleon]

issue is sometimes you don't see the read beam because of walls and etc.

[@compostsmurf5519]

I play nothing but randoms, the majority of lobbies come with their own frustrations. I usually just follow the worst looking loadout around and keep them alive mostly now 😂

[@hrs.ai2018]

Rule4: depend on what your stratgem. 380mm , 500kg, 120mm, similar AoE .. disagreed

[@lowrider6217]

One of the nice things about being a diver who separates from the team is you don’t need to call in a resupply since most of the time I find supplies I need in Points of Interest and can sustain myself while doing objectives and side objectives while the team is doing other stuff or occupied by fighting

[@ConnaKazie.]

Helldivers calling down barrages for 1 tank class enemy is absolutely insane and very often results in at least 1 team kill. I understand laying them down on objectives but for just 1 or 2 tank class enemies it’s insane, (referring to bots) it’s sometimes best to get close to Tanks or Factory Striders depending on loadout and situation, it is NEVER okay to throw down an orbital right where your teammates are actively engaging with enemies I see this a lot with the 120mm

[@gregorbonne9089]

I like to play close to bug breach and throw gas grenades but most people think a napalm barrage looks good on my head

[@dakota9821]

Napalm users are the worst. They always kill at least one of our teammates when they toss it it. The AoE is so big the edge of the barrage will hit you even at max throwing range, if you don't move. (Base throw, not with servo assist)

[@epgamer1145]

The 120 makes sense especially for those who have the tighter spread upgrade. You should see the massive red glowing beacon for an indicator as well as hear the audio warning. There isn’t much else the game can do to notify you.

[@ConnaKazie.]

@@epgamer1145 csnt exactly see the barrage if someone throws it behind you. Csnt exactly run away when it lands within 10m. You can’t make the argument “you should’ve heard” coz the game is hectic it’s easy to not hear, barrages should ALWAYS be thrown in FRONT of teammates and ALWAYS land at least 20 from them, the only exception is when actively retreating and you’re using it as cover

[@hrs.ai2018]

Sometime people throw stragem for 1 heavy devastator :D

[@J.DiPietro]

my biggest pet peeve is when we all board the pelican and someone stays outside just to drop a strategem for "cool factor" cause nothing is left alive, and he trips and falls, or not everyone is on board and it ends up killing folks with a hoard of samples that now we all lost. ALWAYS happens.

[@jacobfoxfires964]

There was some weird communications one time when I had on some fire armor and a supply pack. I think this person grabbed one of mine that was on the ground when I was dead and I called in another. He must of thought I grabbed his and proceeded to fill my head with lead and get it back. You can imagine I wasn’t so pleased and got back at him by unloading my impact incendiaries at our feet. I was fine but he wasn’t and I got my pack back. We had a freaking standoff with our guns pointed at each other and called it a draw. But the teammates found it hilarious.

[@toykthetoker7174]

2:24 naw stay near team leader cause when i host i use the supplies as a way to keep the squad together i call supplies soon as the timers lets me all match

[@curtisbrown547]

Funnily enough i had someone kill me over taking one of their EAT's in the chaos of a fire fight so i could kill a tank we were dying to. It was absolutely baffling. The extraction issue is also exactly why i host games.

[@MOREPLANE]

4:23 oh me and my squad have a different strategy. We ping the largest enemy nearby and ask for them to land on it, and usually they can get away without being harmed.

[@sinteleon]

Unless it's a tank. They have the unfortunate tendency to explode right after you exit the pod that killed them. :x

[@MOREPLANE]

@@sinteleon like he said we got 20 reinforcements and we’re willing to sacrifice one for the greater good

[@sinteleon]

@@MOREPLANE I know, just wish the timing wasn't just right to immediately kill me after I land on the tank. :P (I'm not saying don't do it, just saying the "get away without being harmed" isn't the case for tanks)

[@MOREPLANE]

@@sinteleon yeah

[@nathnull8523]

The hellpod furthest to the left belongs to the host.

[@litigation_jackson]

Naw mines pod 3

[@zelbinian]

I was not prepared for a Parking Lot Is Full reference - you are truly a man of class and taste, sir.

[@Planterobeets]

7:40 ay! That's me calling extraction. Eagle Storm didn't like Gilbert’s attitude.

[@EravinVT]

Your clip was so good it inspired the whole video concept

[@sliphstream4927]

Don't get bogged down fighting an enemy reinforcement parade on blitz missions! Unless you are trying to finish an objective it's best to stay mobile. I've had a lot of teammates burn out the clock fighting never-ending bug breaches and bot drops.

[@LegunaB]

10 seconds in 0 views Eravin fell off etc etc. Seriously though, pubs just yoinking gear without asking is such a surprisingly common thing, even on D10 (EAT's and Commandos not withstanding)

[@huff_designs]

Hippity hoppity your EAT is my property

[@EravinVT]

shocked how often it happens

[@V1UltrakilI]

Especially in HD1 where everybody is forced onto the same screen

[@dakota9821]

Not really. It's happened to me *once* in the entire lifetime of this game. At this point I think some of you are being dickheads and thats why your gear is getting yoinked.

[@epgamer1145]

I never seen a single soul do this.

[@KS-gi2so]

Thank you for bringing his to light. I have no idea how but I always see helldivers thst have 2+ stims and most likely half or over half ammo grab 2 supplies and leaving the helldivers with 0 stims, half health and no ammo in the dust. It’s actually diabolical the amount of unawareness I see in the helldiver community

[@derptomistic]

A pet peeve of mine is those damn buddy bunkers Some way, somehow, it's always the guy who's off alone who finds them. Then they feel the need to spam ping the door, yell in chat, and complain when nobody feels like running a half marathon just to press a button when we're in the middle of a firefight. Note the location, if the squad is in the area later you can grab it then. Had one guy actually reinforce me on the other side of the map for the bunker and it took every fiber of my being to not kneecap him as the rest of the squad died and we had to run all the way back to the objective. Also we need a dedicated "Do not engage" quick command. That would be nice...

[@kokorochacarero8003]

The ping spam is probably them attempting to check what's inside

[@epgamer1145]

@@kokorochacarero8003that’s true. They can see what’s inside from that glitch. I never seem to get the right angle. If it has support weapons for samples inside, I can prevent myself from wasting time.

[@TheGooEater]

Takes a second for "negative" voice line. You're a hypocrite for wanting your ways followed without even acknowledging others. People stay and make every communication attempt at doors because of players like you, not because it's what they want to do. Just do a long q press over their marker, it will mark it over with negative. Or do a voiceline negative and that's it.

[@camper5579]

This is so true, i actually got mad at some guy for this too. Some people dont know they arent the most important person at all times

[@Rob117-nl3dz]

Had a fellow diver take my HMG (I was only seeing if it was in need of a buff or not witch it dose) twice and he had the gal to say he need to kill heavy’s yet he had a recoils.

[@RiceCubeTech]

I’m surprised there’s so many people talking about randoms taking equipment I’ve only had it happen a handful of times in my entire 300hours playing.

[@EravinVT]

I was really surprised it ever happens tbh but I keep hearing about it

[@rossiyskiy_uragan]

Especially someone bring airburst launcher and accidentally tk entire team.. i speak on bot front. I had 1 experience.. that ABRL guy with napalm barrage, 500, 380.. he could have just ask. Also he wasted most of the lives. At the end, i knew its impossible to finish the mission, we were zero reinforcement at 2nd objective, 10 min left, Geological mission on mastia. Me and the other friends abandoned him alone there

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

From my experience, it highly depends on the difficulty. I'm usually playing 7-8, and people follow most of the listed rules. But once I got into diff 3-5 to teach a friend of mine... oh boy, it was a nightmare. A lot of lvl60+ with meta gear struggling at lvl4 bugs and doing everything wrong. I've been constantly killed by their stratagems, because they saw a single warrior close to me and decided to drop a 500kg on my head. I've been constantly playing without any supply drops because there has always been a dude running solo on the other side of the map and constantly ordering drops. Not to mention gear stealing, running into my hmg bursts, running circles around me, with their laser dog damaging me, aggro-ing everything they could, struggling to kill anything they've agro-ed, struggling with the basic terminal actions. I swear, soloing those would've been way, way easier

[@Venalii1]

If your teammate running supply pack and drops it next to a resupply, pick up the pack when you take your supplies to make sure their pack is topped off. Costs you nothing and helps them out a ton

[@coda_7976]

Ngl I turned off cross play so I don’t play with console players. Most if not all my problems regarding shitty teammates just disappear if my teammates are on PC.

[@hamothemagnif8529]

I need to try this

[@Zackarco]

A thing I would like to add: the unspoken rule of leaving samples at the evac site, if you have samples too, pick up the current samples there to stack them all, then drop them. Also it's better to have one person carry all the samples. Makes it less chaotic trying to pick up 3 different containers while under fire and under pressure.

[@GhostOfSatoshi]

Yo, will High Command object if a Helldiver dates a Terminid girl? Asking for a friend.

[@EravinVT]

Yes, yes they will

[@tlad2750]

Your friend is probably facing the wall rn, no objections needed 😂

[@gregorbonne9089]

Have him face the wall and then steal his bug

[@gershommaes902]

When reinforcing dead teammate, extra points if you ping their gear - they can see the ping as they're dropping in, and it's a really good way to orient them back into the situation

[@PotatoAces]

And that voice clip is why I have voice permanently disabled. Gamers just love hurling slurs.

[@BETRvids]

The other day, during a squid mission, I made it clear to the host that I didn't want to ride in the FRV. I'm bad at aiming in it and I feel much more confident in my abilities when I have full control over my movement. While I was off on my own trying to complete an objective in stealth, he decided to drive up to me after luring at least 4 hordes of zombies and every jet pack overseer on the planet. I got completely overwhelmed, all because he decided to be petty.

[@Brown95P]

Sorry Eravman, but in the dog-eat-dog world of quickplay, I *_WILL_* prioritize my supplies over my teammates', and I *_WILL_* leave them behind if it means all the rare samples get safely extracted. To this day I still will not believe only 11% of all missions result in failure when well over half of my quickplay sessions so easily crash and burn long before I even set foot in them, with most randoms I see bringing eagle cluster and tesla of all things instead of the Vitality booster; small wonder they've already burned through 15+ reinforcements within just 5 minutes.

[@quintonb9870]

Hmm, well maybe if you look at those numbers again, and think about it reeeeeaaallll hard, you might see the problem. If not I'll point you in the right direction: 11% failure rate is the average 50% + when YOU are in the mission.

[@Brown95P]

@@quintonb9870 Well aren't you a funny pedantic. I could be the most samaritan person in the galaxy and follow all these rules to a T, and the 50+% failure rate on quickplay would still not budge an inch; Hell, these missions are often on the brink of failure before I even join. Me being mildly selfish on quickplay is not the reason they often fail; on the contrary, me being this selfish is so I can at least try to salvage them from potential failure.

[@quintonb9870]

@@Brown95P "pedantic" isn't a noun. Players like you are why videos like this need to be made in the first place.

[@Brown95P]

@@quintonb9870 Yeah yeah, save your pathetic preaching for the stupid choir; the fact of the matter is that 90% of the randoms I meet don't even know to pick Vitality, and as long as that's the case, I'll just keep assuming I'm doing these missions by myself with bot teammates -- because that's what they might as well be if all they're gonna do is teamkill with eagle cluster/tesla and continuously eat away at the team's reinforcement budget.

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

One extra rule: Show some trigger discipline. It can be an issue trying not to die from enemies trying to INTENTIONALLY leave you as an unrecognizable bloodstain and end up having a comrade do so just because they’re trigger happy and jumpy.

[@Mark_Wilson1983]

Or... Try not crossing someone's line of fire like a noob

[@NUToriouslyOnline]

This is a personal peeve of mine, but when tackling the Diff 10 Super Nests/Fortresses (or even any variant of Heavy Nest/Outpost), please do NOT throw barrages into the area WHEN THERE IS A TEAMMATE OR MORE ACTIVELY IN THERE CLOSING HOLES/FABRICATORS MANUALLY; IT'S ME, I AM THAT TEAMMATE MOST OF THE TIME. The amount of times I've been Walking Barrage'd/380'd or even Eagle'd with an airstrike or 500 while I'm quite visibly in the nest/outpost closing structures just because the stratagem thrower thought it'd be a "good idea" to throw their freshly off cooldown explosive hellscape maker to close the last couple holes/fabricators through sheer luck even though I or a fellow teammate can see the structures to destroy is above zero and it annoys me. This is basically just an addendum to communicating with teammates when throwing offensive stratagems but also have some common sense to not do so when you see your teammates in the thick of an outpost unless they're about to die or are already dead. Another smaller peeve of mine (and this sounds arrogant) is when I join randoms on the Bot front to test loadout ideas for team play viability and "low level" (ranging from 30-40 roughly) hosts on like Diffs 6-8 see my loadout and either straight up kick me from the mission or berate my loadout choices AND THEN kick me. Like, I'm level 150 in the game now and know a solid chunk of its mechanics, so it irks me when some low level host sees me bring something totally "off-meta" that's not the RR or autocannon or other thing and then give me the boot like they know better. Your loss, stinky.

[@dakota9821]

You must have terrible luck. I've never been kicked for my loadout, nor even berated for it. I also don't use meta gear. I run a inf ammo set up; All lasers.

[@NUToriouslyOnline]

@@dakota9821 To be fair, they were definitely eyebrow-raising loadouts (e.g., gatling barrage, strafing run, MG sentry, gatling sentry; bringing all arc/EMS equipment; or bringing nothing but fire and gas) which seem odd on the Bot front, but I never take these higher than level 7 or 8 so I'm not intentionally being dead weight. I enjoy bringing these to the bots too cuz screw it, it's out of place but funny. However I lost trust in the quickplay system from being booted over "weird" choices by, and I kept track of the level averages, divers around level 40 or less. Divers leveling toward 70-80+ though understood my antics and went with it; I even had a random fellow 150 join me in goofing around on a couple 8 Bots operations with him on gas and myself on fire. It sucked lol but we made it work and it was damn funny.

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

Mg barrage, strafing run, gatling sentry, mg sentry sounds meta adjacent enough to me. At least on bugs, and definitely sufficient for didd 6-8

[@generaljedi8691]

@@dakota9821same (though I have come off so I wouldn’t hear it if they did) but if you can beat the breaks off the enemy with whatever weapon no one has any right to complain. I’ve made a “civilian/militia” load out when the constitution rifle came out and still can clear half the map on high level missions solo.

[@generaljedi8691]

@@NUToriouslyOnlineyou can still own enemies with most (and all) loadouts wiht enough practice. I’ve run a fire build on bots, it’s not efficient, but it can work. The flamethrower works great on berserkers and you can have flamethrower duels with hulks. You can absolutely win with everything, you just have to find the neesh it fits and what your play style is atm.

[@Legather]

-If you're en route to an objective and there are no immediate enemies, hold off calling for resupply until you reach it rather than calling it in the middle of nowhere where your teammates would need to double back to use it. -It only takes one person to do artillery, it might take longer but it means they can load the shells in a sensible order rather than having 'that guy' load the first shell they see because they want a turn with the toys. -Run behind your teammates. -Don't crowd vantage points, especially when there's not much room. Not only will you limit the effectiveness for the person who was already there, you're doubling the amount of damage your team can take from an enemy strike to that position.

[@Akantorz]

Resupply just needs to have a separate CD for each diver with a SLIGHTLY longer CD so that players can coordinate or just call it down when they need it. Great to have during missions like defend the flag or tower defense missions, so you can stockpile reloads and devastate your enemies.

[@meisterregmyster]

That’s how it was during the first galactic war. You could have as many resupply call ins as you had stratagem slots per diver. Yes they took a stratagem slot but everyone could call in their own resupply but the squad was forced to stay together so you really only needed a few resupplies for the squad. With the changing logistics in the second galactic war, squads dont have to stick with each other but resupplying is limited. Having the resupply backpack brought along to compensate as it is on a separate cooldown and has plenty of ammo to share with others or horde for yourself and be a one man unkillable death machine. Having a resupply backpack in the squad helps the squad stay topped off and be more careless with ammunition/stim/grenade usage. You usally dont need more than one in the squad unless you need a lot of stims. If you dont need to hand out all the packs on the resupply backpack, you can call in another one for a diver without a backpack. Now you have up to 8 resupply packs ready for your next encounter on a mission.

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

I remember a game where we had 1 last side objective and not enough time to reach it. What I did is I dropped my samples form my teammates and split up to do the last nest. I completed the objective and they just summoned me at the extraction. Lesson of the day: You are not too far away unless you have limited reinforcement.

[@geyserguy2]

How about "don't join high level missions if you dont know how to play and have no mic". Just yesterday, i was completing a super helldive mission set. 3rd mission, wall defense. EASY WIN, right? Nope, a level 24 with no mic joins. In 30 seconds he takes a well defended wall and kills the other 3 players, disarming all of us. 5 rockets had launched. 3 to go. So, the drop ships are coming heavier now. 2 or 3 factory striders +tanks every drop. Death spirals. No one can get to their gear. Everyone's sentries are killed and on cooldown. Failed mission. Undid all the defense progress of all 3 missions in 5 minutes. Didn't have the decency to get on a mic and say "sorry i ruined 1hr 45 min of progress from your 3 missions" Kicked him from continuing and made a new rule for my lobby, level 50+ for helldive and super helldive missions. Kicked 3 people today for exactly this. Told them, "you have no mic and you are too low level for this mission. Nothing personal. But your predecessors have ruined it for you" If someone wants to use coms, i will take a chance. But rather than have a lobby of 3 people with no mic, i will solo dive or just play a single player game. No reason to spend 40 minutes in a mission with someone who is clearly unskilled AND does not even have the courtesy to use a mic

[@epgamer1145]

They have mics. The PS5 controller has one built in. Pretty sure the PC has its own speakers too. We are not in an age where having no mic comes by default.

[@geyserguy2]

@@epgamer1145 exactly. They are deliberately chosing to not communicate. Thereby, making everyone who has had one of these bad experiences with people who refuse to use coms, assume the high likelihood that the next person without coms will screw them in the same way

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

🤣 have you never seen a computer? What world do you live in where computers have inbuilt microphones? *Some* laptops have inbuilt speakers, but I've never heard of one with an inbuilt mic. So no, not every computer has a mic, in fact it's not all that rare for people to not have one, especially if they don't typically play multiplayer games, or games where voice chat is useful. Some multiplayer games don't even need voice chat.

[@Xahnel]

New player, everyone on low levels suffers perpetual muteness, what level do people actually start opening their mouths and communicating?

[@epgamer1145]

@ tk. They will start talking.

[@UnknownFox]

Always hate when I go with a friend into a random mission. 2 and 2, so we usually split up to cover the map quicker. Sucks to die only for the team on the opposite side to call one of us down miles from our stuff.

[@DamnWaitWut]

Womp Womp

[@the_neuron]

Didn't mention unspoken rule of picking the samples and super credits. Takes 5s to do it and you can help people who don't have their ship maxed out and the DDS payments.

[@melo7038]

Couple of extra don'ts, as well as some nice dos 1. DO NOT pick up the samples at extract. They were put there deliberately. Unless you're merging your samples with them, leave them alone 2. DO NOT tunel vision in to a lost objective alone. Yes, you may well have dropped the super samples in the middle of a fortress, but if you've died attempting to get it back more than twice and your teammates are doing something else, take the L and go somewhere else. You're bleeding reinforcements and would be far more helpful doing something else. Grab it when you have back-up or later on in the mission when the area calms down 3. DO ping heavies when reinforcing. If you aren't completely overrun and want some extra damage on a heavy, ping it when reinforcing. It helps your teammates steer their hellpod into them for a load of damage 4. DO make liberal use of the map marking system. This seems basic, but it hard carries missions when playing with randoms, turning what would be a disorganised mess into a co-ordinated unit. You don't have to follow all markers, but at the very least, knowing where people are going to be helps everyone tremendously

[@gamefan6142]

7:45 *insert "Shoot that diver" GIF*

[@STARPHASE]

Those last few! Thank you! I got kicked recently because I split off from my teammates to do other stuff. They probably saw my low kill count at the stats menu and then kicked me. Had another person kick me for the pelican thing. We were in a Super Helldive and had NO reinforcements left. One of our teammates decided to fight far away from the pick up, and didn't get back to extract. The rest of us made it. But he was mad, left after the mission, and then the host kicked me, despite the fact that I completely carried that mission. So frustrating.

[@MattyJ55046]

My biggest rule: don’t take more than one supply pack unless you ask and your teammate doesn’t need it. One warning then you are kicked.

[@Mark_Wilson1983]

So if I have 0 stims and somebody has 3 I have to wait for their permission? How about get fucked?

[@Reoh0z]

> "Well, I'm no different..." I appreciate your honesty.