Full Galactic War Guide, Liberation Mechanics, & More for Helldivers 2

[@EravinVT]

JOIN THE GHOSTDIVERS TODAY! discord.gg/hSPvmSCUSt I made this video to teach those that want to know how this system works, I fully understand there are those of you who simply do not care about the Galactic War and that is fine, This video wasn't for you, it's for those that do care and simply don't understand how to do their part. Stream at 7pm EST if you saw this on release :D

[@Kevvvinus1]

Hey Eravin, what website do you use to see all of the map details?

[@EravinVT]

@@Kevvvinus1in the description, Helldiver companion app

[@MorganSaph]

@@EravinVT 6:50 slight correction. It's 300% for Super Helldive. It's still a 4x multiplier though, as it's adding 300% to the base value, not multiplying.

[@onlyAduck]

@EravinVT can you go into more detail why solo diving is negativ for the global mod? Why is poor performance bad on low difficulty? (Isnt it bad on all lvl?)

[@onlyAduck]

@@MorganSaph i think he is means the end sum. "With the difficulty mod you can get 100% (lvl1) to 400% (lvl10) exp" if it was a sentence not point

[@dagdamor1]

Not gonna lie, if they gave us a couple Brasch Tactics that went into detail about this like you do, that'd solve a LOT of problems.

[@dotmadhack]

The helldivers companion really need to be spread far and wide on every forum, message board, discord, and word of mouth if even. It's so useful.

[@TheBest1972]

@@fire2box Very likely the DSS will have more features, and Joel also needs an assistant, only then we can have even more info on the map

[@TM-qe2us]

Clearly, they should hire the companion app's admin.

[@FrostyShock349]

It needs to be in-game

[@shinogaming4978]

Ye!

[@nutzin23]

@@FrostyShock349Yes! Such an important mechanic that’s hidden

[@chasebladesword1211]

As a veteran Helldiver I knew most of these tips, but even I was surprised that individual deaths weakened the multiplier. This just goes to show how helpful and in depth this video is and I hope I'm not the only one sharing this around to my Helldiver friends

[@MrChach1ng]

Yeah, in my case, not going to happen. I have learned to accept death while doing SuperHelldive. There's way too much to not die at least 5-8 times in that difficulty lol.

[@lordbeerus462]

Huh...guess I wasn't paranoid when I play the game defensively. My goal every match is to try not to die

[@sinteleon]

Feels like this is counter-intuitive to the design of the game though.

[@MrVelociraptor75]

@@sinteleon Why is that counter intuitive? Deaths still cost SuperEarth resources, even if they can cope with the losses, so it makes sense on that front to me

[@sinteleon]

@@MrVelociraptor75 Design of the game, not lorewise. The game is designed to factor in deaths, both accidental and not, hence the very generous number of lives allotted (along with still letting you have more lives even after all has been used as long as you survive long enough). It also means people are inclined to play lower difficulty to limit deaths, and not complete sub-objectives over extraction, when given a choice. On a related, I wonder if there is a cap to the death penalty given it's possible to extend the death count far beyond the base of 5 per player.

[@NekoColaQ]

The "Victory in 2 centuries" prediction is a certified 40k moment.

[@snepping1885]

@@NekoColaQ nah that's a stretch 2 centuries is some mad blitzkrieg in 40k scale

[@panachevitz]

"Stick with the majority if you want to make a difference" It's almost like....Managed Democracy.

[@branchrickey9123]

We seriously need more of this information available in game. Imagine how many players are completely unaware of most of this

[@EravinVT]

absolutely

[@J.B.1982]

I’m a new player and the whole system is a mystery to me. Very little info in game, which is odd if they want us to play the system.

[@Majikaloo]

I think I can feel Eravin slowly becoming more and more impatient as the game ages.

[@Guaguadeath]

And jaded lol

[@DemoDivsion]

The futility of war

[@dracoslayer16]

Just the fact that deaths give a penalty to your overall score is a pretty big eye opener. Hell, I was always under the impression that only the operation as a whole did anything for contribution, and side objectives were just a waste of time for people who didn't care about XP. This really changes a LOT to know.

[@carlosmdc9069]

Great info. Didn't know about the casualty penalty and not extracting. Good to know

[@lukemehalick370]

I honestly feel like most people understand this concept for the most part. I also feel that many people don't want to burn the limited amount of playing time they get on planets they don't enjoy playing on. I try to get after the MO whatever it is, but I can understand why people avoid planets with horrible visibility or a plethora of different issues. The death and extract penalty is information I wasn't aware of. Good on you for sharing it

[@MNewton]

I'm not sure that the majority understand this but I'd say your point still stand even if people don't get it. I play this game as my primary social outlet and we get in about a campaign a night or less. If it's a mission that we don't much want to do then we don't do it.

[@BackwardsPancake]

This whole thing is kind of best summarized by the "IQ bell curve" meme. 60 IQ: "Planet fun - Me dive!" 100 IQ: "Noooo! You have to play the heccin optimalerino planets where everyone else is!" 200 IQ: "Joel will rig everything anyway to make the game interesting and to set up their planned events - Just play whatever you like."

[@frumsmcnoodles323]

I refuse to play on any planet that is a fire planet, or covered in orange spores. I am red/orange colorblind so I would get pretty much the same results on those planets if I played with my monitor turned off.

[@torinnbalasar6774]

​@@frumsmcnoodles323 oof. Hopefully they eventually circle back to making helmets change the HUD and use that mechanic as an excuse to add in colorblind accessibility options, though I know that can only help so much.

[@bongwatercrocodile315]

I used to not know how liberation worked. Now that i do know its kinda sad because i want to play against bots instead of bugs but none of the bot planets have enough people to make a difference. I hope some bot planets get enough divers after this MO

[@robertcampbell2714]

Just tell me where to go periodically, Eravin. I’ve very much appreciated it.

[@santiagocar6674]

@@robertcampbell2714 just go where the most helldivers are

[@GrandSupremeDaddyo]

Some other things worth noting: 1. When a defence fails the planet will go to the enemy but will start at 50% liberated. So if you see a planet with low player numbers but a decent liberation percentage don't be fooled into thinking it will be an easy capture. 2. If divers are split between two liberation campaigns we are essentially competing against two regen rates. It is better to focus on getting one liberated first then the other. Ideally the one with the higher regen rate first. 3. If we are split between a defence and a liberation it is better to focus on the liberation first so as to prevent the regen undoing our progress.

[@ludewich]

This is highly useful advice! Just one question: in (2), why would you prefer the harder one first? I would go for the one with the lower regen rate first (assuming both are at zero initially).

[@timbertv5525]

About your 3rd point. If the liberation will take too long the defense mission may fail, and then it's sometimes better to lose like 1%/hr during the 24hrs it lasts, than lose control of a planet and 50% of another planet. Because 24% (or less) is still better to lose than 50% of another. But players will always be split. Also worth to note is % gain per hour per player differs on the two types. And Helldiverscompanion % gains shown is very off early in liberation stages on the Helldivers side.

[@frostedoceans3486]

For 2 weeks in August during all those bot major orders, 10-20k people sat on Pandion XXIV never liberating it because the modifier was 3.5%. It drove me nuts

[@Drummerx04]

Well that's the thing "go where everyone else is or you'll make no progress" "Oh actually not there though, that planet has an invisible defense modifier"

[@HoepRemains]

​@@Drummerx04 I feel like a very easy rule of thumb is "does the planet have progress higher than 1%?" and unless it's a brand new liberation campaign if the answer is no don't go there

[@danielfournier6240]

One of the many things I loved about Planetside back in the day was that once you reached a high enough level you could access both private channels for high level players and also a command channel visible to all players in your faction. This let the most dedicated players both collaborate and then direct the “Zerg” - the mob of casual players - over the chat to go to where the battle needed to be

[@HoepRemains]

Would work great... If we had any chat outside of squad chat 😂

[@seannyandme]

FINALLY someone points this out. I am so tired of watching the same mistakes all the time...

[@kurtisdeakin]

It's not like the game explains this!

[@seannyandme]

@@kurtisdeakin Yes you're right. But even since the introduction of the arrows (which I think were mentioned in the respective patch notes, which some don't read) many people still didn't get it and we failed many MOs, defenses and such because of a huge number of the community playing mindlessly. I also understand some don't care and just want to play for fun - to me contributing to the lore is part of that fun. I am just glad today some content creators took the time to finally explain this.

[@Lord_Alzorn]

I just want to say, Thank You! I appreciate the community notes helping guide the players. I thumbs up each one to get it's visibility spread!

[@roar104]

finally something I can link to friends to explain not to do the defense missions just because they have big red letters saying defend 🙏

[@Rahman1972]

Are you sure you mean friends or just other randoms who don't play as much? :smugsenko:

[@roar104]

@@Rahman1972 both

[@glauco.s]

Ah yes, a much needed discussion... about time! I would like to see a efficiency comparison between soloing lvl1 operations versus squad work on the higher ones.

[@Sir_Duckyweather]

I hate how the loading screen tip lies to us. "Every mission counts!" Yeah, no. Every _operation_ counts. If you abandon the operation, you may as well have not started it as far as the galactic war is concerned. I also hate how failing the last mission after completing the first two practically invalidates all of your efforts.

[@xipheros]

Me and the Wandering Reapers have been trying to figure a lot of this information out for a few months now using a lot of the data that has been brought up. I'm really happy that and more well-known Helldiver content creator was able to bring this info and data up in a comprehensive and more detailed way because a lot of these smaller details like Helldiver deaths and difficulty impacting the overall success rate was one of the hardest bits to figure out due to the 30 minute calculation that's not shown at all. Definitely sharing this around to the many Helldiver Divisions so they can in turn, contribute more effectively.

[@Pyromaniac77777]

Thanks Eravin at least 50% of this was new info to me! Will contribute accordingly to the war!

[@handlesrstupid123]

I started playing again recently, so hearing about this system is nice and I like how it works makes me feel like my time on higher diff isnt wasted though not optimal sometimes. Thanks for the break down

[@henrybartholomew5383]

Well, I always assumed as a solo diver I was contributing more than anyone else, since I was letting people fight in other operations. Kinda sucks to be wrong about that, ngl.

[@yengereng9962]

Imo i think it still applies as it seems to still give positive influence, reduced yeah but still positive

[@cloudsteele1989]

Yeah... I don't like joining open matches because I'm not confident in my skills... It kind of feels bad hearing "we're pretty much better without you, even if you're not getting in our way."

[@thebigenchilada678]

@@cloudsteele1989ignore that, no diver left behind. All you need to do is not *always* kill your fellow divers

[@MattWanchap]

​@@cloudsteele1989 I hear you, the elitism in the HD2 community really sucks sometimes. Most people are awesome but there's definitely a minority of total clowns who have nothing better to do than become experts at a video game so they can feel superior due to their hundreds of hours spent practicing. Imagine having that much free time...

[@jemandanders6160]

The math on that is really tricky (and that's probably the reason why Eravin didn't show it). On the one hand, a solo trivial diver has easily double to tripple the impact of a helldive squaddie. On the other hand every instance of damage reduces the impact of every other instance within 30 minutes. If there are enough instances of damage, that are reduced in impact by the solo diver, the aggregat effect will be negative. There is however a tipping point. If you are working a planet away from the majority at low tide (6-12 GMT e.g.), solo runs do have a very outsized impact, because they double the exp gain and there aren't enough instances for their reduction to bring the contribution down into the negatives. Even if the cumulative would be as servere as -1% net for every instance of damage, a single team of 4 would be slighty better off to do 5 Trivials each in 30 Minutes, then doing one flawless 30min Helldive together. There is also likely a contribution floor as well as the global ceiling to be contended with. BUT: If you follow Eravins advice to work at the most populous planet, it is save to say doing so in teams of 4 at the highest tier you can reliably complete is overall most efficient.

[@omegabkg]

I got a feeling this video kind of came up due to something me and two others were talking about in your Discord it was just the highlight of the moment and this is nice of you to further explain this

[@seannyandme]

I've also been complaining about these issues since months ago...

[@EravinVT]

It's been a common topic this month, finally found time to fully explain it

[@Kirisame312]

Thank you for this. From what I've seen, we definitely need this advice to help our Helldivers not waste their patriotic liberation efforts.

[@behlockaetheking7062]

"but muh fun"

[@raphaelhuwyler6640]

@@behlockaetheking7062 I mean, if i start the game after work for 30mins you better believe i will go to a neat,no debuff planet even if im alone there, i don't have the time and or nerves to deal with some space vietnam where i can't see past 5m and have to wait half a year for my stratagems to land

[@Kirisame312]

​@@behlockaetheking7062 Pretty much... I don't get the logic there lol If a diver wants to do bots during a bug MO, or bugs during a Bot MO, I have no issue with that. But I definitely don't get the mentality of people who are diving bugs on a stalled planet when there's a bug planet right next door where their effort will count for something.

[@ELVIStheDotA]

@@Kirisame312 Maybe they hate playing on that other planet

[@Nada-mm2nk]

Thank you Eravin. As always a wealth of information that is not only easy to understand but also fills in gaps of the most veteran players.

[@confusedPsyduck]

🔥🔥🔥 as usual my guy! People need to watch this one everywhere!

[@EravinVT]

absolutely, the more people that know the better the war will go for us

[@Erosgates]

Been looking for a video explaining these mechanics. Thanks for it!

[@eclipticwarrior4370]

Thank you so much for making this! I hope this gets spread far and wide amongst helldivers!

[@darthvaper4776]

The video we’ve been all waiting for

[@tatooinestar]

Been shouting about this stuff for months, still amazes me how many high level players don't know most of this! Thanks for the comp video though, I'll share it about.

[@madeleine829]

Some of us know, but constantly getting 0 medals isn't a huge motivator as far as major orders go. They'll just railroad the story like with all the recent d.s.s gambit flops if it gets too bad so it doesn't matter.

[@NewHeavenStudios]

Finally, someone who explains this to the public. Thank you.

[@ooomaiis]

Thank you for this insight, it helps understanding the mechanics behind the galactic war. It should definitely be added to the war map in-game, as it adds sense to the whole experience.

[@yanyanyan60]

This is a piece of information all democracy lover should know

[@emeralds8569]

Literally been trying to find this info for way too long thank you so much

[@Hyperdragon1701]

I believe it was alluded to by the devs that "Gambits" are only supposed to work on the Automaton Front and not against Bugs as the Bugs don't need Traditional Supply Lines, since they are basically an infestation once they reach a planet.

[@snakeling_5408]

Just wanna say as a personal note, at 3:09 you state the highest value observed is 1.5m, we have observed 2m before in example such as the 1st Battle of Socorro III.

[@AtZeroDansGames]

7:50 Oh my Liberty! This is another reason not to team kill.

[@emeraldturtle5523]

Comment for the algorithm in the hope that Super Earth will show this critical strategic information to all of our fellow Helldivers

[@neilallen8491]

This was a great video EravinVT and just what many helldivers (like the ones the discord calls the Blob) need to know. I didn't know about the percentage penalties that dying too much affects our liberation points at the end of an operation so I found this super informative. I'll try to refer this video to any new helldiver I come across, for maximum DEMOCRACY!!!

[@Zulban48]

Been in the mood to fight bots, but Super Earth needs those bug planets taken care of so that takes precedence. The part about helldiver deaths and not extracting is pretty critical. So many people want to throw orbital barrages or 500kg bombs on the extraction shuttle and I've seen many people miss the boat because of it for absolutely no gain.

[@Crabriri]

Leaks suggest there'll be a "message of the day," for platoons but a version of this that reached everyone would be good for directing anyone who needs it.

[@SuperSurferDan]

Eravin is the professor of Helldivers 2! love the in depth exposure of obscure features. The Ministry of Truth would be lucky to have him as Minister ✊️

[@mcwolves71]

Spectacular video that we really needed

[@EravinVT]

100% needs to be more visible

[@Valkillmer1]

Finally - been looking for something to explain all this.

[@Bober077]

Thank you - players need this video.

[@blindlark6468]

Every diver needs to see this

[@smugtacular9759]

I love the Ghost Divers community but my small band of exceptional divers have rallied to form the 252nd Helldivers Company: The Employees of the Month. I'll still perform joint ops with the Ghosts and the 606 Jaegers frequently o7

[@Jonobos]

Thank you. We need more of these videos.

[@Pr0digyZRX]

I literally have tab for the companion app on my pc lol. But I had no idea that the game checks damage dealt to planets every 30 minutes so even when we have less people it doesn't hurt us during liberations. Thats actually kinda genius tbh

[@had_fun_once]

Good to know all of this, even as someone who did find the companion app before this video. But it does just make me wish even more that contributions to a planet's liberation/defense were done on a per-mission basis instead of a per-operation one. The amount doesn't even need to be changed, just divide it between each mission so that it doesn't feel like a slog. They can penalize the contribution of divers who abandon operations attempting to quick-farm single missions or choose to reward dedicated divers with an increasing bonus to their contribution after each mission for successfully completing a whole operation. Those are just my thoughts. Personally, I don't like having to go through the whole operation before seeing that my actions did something. I doubt they'll change it since it drives player retention and engagement, though.

[@golevka]

Great info Mr. Sentient Anime Traffic Controller Man, I'll have to devote more time to joining some of the ghost divers on low-casualty high-diff runs now that I understand the modifiers for number of squadmates and multipliers for difficulty. Great vid as always

[@Kevvvinus1]

Good job Eravin, top content!

[@Bangcat]

And now people further know why I like working in full squads. I also tend to try to stick more to lynch pin moments, support of the other divers, and also diversionary tactica often like covering escapes and often leading some away from the force if I can't outright put them down. I can also often lose them in many environments despite being a heavy user regularly that helps in my other duties described. Maybe not the best on my own, but survivable on my own often when really need be and focus to goals or aiding others pushing them. This is a war meant to be conducted with others as band of brothers. And in some ways I dare to say it out Space Marines, Space Marine 2 in some ways. If we get more good melee options, and armor all the further one can get their Space Marine like feels, I run the 200 heavy padded regularly for instance, and it could remain the more ideal ongoing regular quest. I can often be found looking to try and support gaps in teams that have space to fill it. I'm often slapping R key to get in a fight that can use my backup wherever the major orders would best benefit from such. 🏴‍☠Fly the flag with Super Earth's letter of mark. The Emperor's light follows with any of Mankind's endeavors to see Mankind and the Emperor's own to sustain war against the Xenos and Traitor. The best way to bring liberation against Heresy is with Brothers in arms and potential Brothers in Arms to be. Part of the crew, part of the war machine as we are the mail about about humanity's fist as we are the casters of the most potent summoning stones at sinners and ballots of benediction in high calibre communion.

[@jwmdlm07]

I asked for this and you did it THANK YOU!!!

[@Dummogummo]

Thank you for giving this information to the community! 👏 Also I’ve seen rates as high as 14%, I hope they put the important numbers in the DSS

[@traviswreynolds]

I did not know deaths itself affected the output

[@asfdasdful]

Thank you. I actually understand now. I've been playing on and off since day 1 lol.

[@nickpang4630]

ministry of truth PSA info quality is unmatched

[@Polaris5664]

Its kinda unfortunate, sometimes I want to role play and go for the MO. Other times I will just see which planet would be the most fun or has a modifier I like (like If I want to use laser weapons and I choose an ice planet that is available, Or I want to play on a planet I CAN ACTUALLY SEE MORE THAN 5 FEET IN FRONT OF ME!)

[@Clogmonger]

It's a game, do what you find fun if you ask me. My team did bugs most of the weekend, but shook it up with the occasional bots. Variety is the spice of life, ya know? (Dying for that third faction)

[@MNewton]

This is kinda why I wonder if actually putting the info in game would really do anything. I can get a run or two in a night with friends so if nobodies feeling bugs or bots at that time we just do the other side. I generally look for a planet where one can see somewhat and has an appropriately fun mission on the day side even though I mostly knew this stuff already.

[@kiitaclyzm]

randoms mess me up for some reason, imma stick to solodiving unless a buddy is online. As long as there's an MO to do though, I'll be there bombing bugs/bots. The community posts sharing the game plan have been quite helpful

[@rhyssidwell2218]

Everybody needs to watch this video 👌

[@EravinVT]

Everyone who cares for the major orders and galactic war definitely

[@rhyssidwell2218]

Omg you replied to me 😮😮😮🤣

[@eyasluna2303]

Keep this up and eravin may actually end up in the ministry of truth.

[@MeowMeowRanger]

But every corner of the galaxy deserve the light of liberation.

[@michaelmcinally5899]

Thank you for this!!!! Please say it over and over again 🙏

[@evronian1129]

best helldivers channel

[@TinyT0ny]

thank you very much, i am playing this game since release, and havent figured out the system behind galaxymap didnt even know about the companionApp

[@R4idenXS]

the largest issue is the app calling itself an app. It's a website

[@mezarisage6055]

Would you like to know more?

[@guilhermeportugal6389]

This is extremely informative!

[@Kerrman1]

Solid information. Thanks!

[@--Anurag--]

The in-game planet info tab just does not show enough information. The supply lines are also a recent addition. AH should find a way to display all the info that the helldivers companion app currently displays. I have a question - this planet health pool you talked about - you mentioned everything from main quest to side quest to time remaining affect it. Do we have to complete all missions in the operation for the health pool to be affected? Does doing only 1 mission in the 3-mission set yield no result to the said planet health pool?

[@graveyardshift6691]

No but those missions have stacking modifiers. For every mission in an operation pool you do, there's yet ANOTHER hidden modifier that increases your contribution. It doesn't matter what order you do them in, only that you complete the pool or 'operation' as it's called. You jump from operation to operation only doing the first mission, you're contributing less. Doing the second (and third) in an operation pool activates a bonus at the end which impacts the liberation rate. So some missions that have less XP available (typically the high value rocket extract and horde wave missions) if done later in the operation pool can actually contribute higher if done later. Otherwise you can instead max out a higher XP one to contribute more. It USED to be that failing to do all missions in an operation would penalize the liberation rate but when they overhauled the liberation system to what it is now, that's no longer the case.

[@--Anurag--]

@@graveyardshift6691 I see. Thank you for the info.

[@Commander_Appo]

The Gacrux divers really are going in for the long haul, aren’t they

[@FrostyShock349]

Just had a host that was quite frankly not the brightest and refused to call in an SOS when just the 2 of us did a l10 spread democracy dive. I just straight up ditched him

[@mostlypizza8605]

Commenting to help push the video in the algorithm

[@brodiddy877]

I am a certified creek crawler. I will never stop diving on the bots till the last clanker is dismantled

[@thetuerk]

With timestamps, this could be the Bible of Helldivers

[@WVTarheel]

I'm level 91 and still learned a lot from this

[@SamWinters]

As a GM who's run TTRPG games for decades now, Hiding the regen rate so the storyteller can put their thumb on the scale makes perfect sense to me.

[@Ookamisieshin]

Yeah, but you'd probably tell your players (or give them hints) if they were making no progress against an insurmountable foe. The regen rate could be hinted at through an obfuscated manner at least and/or supplemented with flavor text in major orders. i.e. "Strong/weak enemy resistance", "We're making progress, keep pushing", "Best to focus our efforts elsewhere".

[@ululuku6873]

With this crucial Intel the Galaxy will soon be united under the banner of super earth

[@dogishappy0]

Anyone else wish this information was available closer to launch?

[@Clogmonger]

Question! Does completing a mission faster have any benefit other than letting you start the next one sooner?

[@EravinVT]

Yes, you have a higher base value due to the time remaining bonus

[@Clogmonger]

@@EravinVT I thought so but a squad mate of mine loves to run the clock dry picking the map clean. Wasn't sure if there was any harm in that. Thanks for the info!

[@greenj117]

I could’ve swore I heard you say before “if you want to play as a team go play left 4 dead” 😆 I usually play the MO but thank you for the information. I don’t get to play a whole lot but I’d like to contribute effectively when I can play!

[@steved4475]

Betting more than half the diver couldn't give two shits. That and Arrowhead enforcement of an obscure system means nothing good will happen intentionally. However this means anyone in Arrowhead can magical pull a fake win or face loss and over half the helldivers still will not give two shits.

[@devistator102]

thank you for making this

[@JuiceJive]

I matchmake with randoms on diff 7 most of the time. Maybe 1 in 5 matches will reach the end of an operation. Most are derailed by the host quitting or through crashes. I certainly hope that individual mission completions are contributing to the GWar.

[@EBarracuda]

Honestly did not know dying had a 2% penalty! Gonna spread this far and wide

[@johndelanie3649]

I'm a simple diver, I see big number, I dive to planet

[@tomduke1297]

TLDR: just dive on the planet with the most helldivers.

[@BluePoo52]

Did not know a lot of this. Give this man a democracy medal

[@cfdcfd15]

Did not know about the death malus and extraction.

[@ClasticOne]

Fingers crossed we get at least some of this info on the holomap in tomorrow's patch.

[@1.21jiggawatts2]

Is it just me or does Eravin v-tuber model remind y’all of Swedish Chef with how his hands are moving? It’s probably just due to his elbow being off screen and the arm moving kinda randomly, but I can’t unsee it now.

[@eg1162]

@1.21jiggawatts2 That's because it practically is controlled the same way. Puppet hands are controlled (usually) with a black rod the puppeteer uses to control the position and rotation, and the elbow just kinda hangs there. Similarily, I think the tuber model hands are controlled via VR controller, which know XYZ position and rotation (also finger position sonetimes) and software guesses (inverse kinematics) where the elbow goes.

[@EvaandJavier]

The fact that they don’t teach this to new players is baffling to me.

[@alexparadies9939]

I believe there is also a modifier based on the percent of players on a planet. I have seen liberation rates spike when we get over 80 % of the active player base on a planet. But maybe I am wrong.

[@JulianLares]

If the bot front was fun and fire planets weren't hell I feel like there would be a LOT more cohesion

[@alexparadies9939]

Yes the video I have been asking for woooooo

[@alfredg.3553]

I was this years old when I learned we are playing risk, but reversed. We are just playing the fights over territories. We are the dice.

[@larkspur1st168]

So I’m curious. Is it good or bad that I’ve been spamming trivial missions? You mentioned it’s better to have less deaths and more time remaining (I always have over 90% time left and don’t really die on trivial missions). Or would it be better to dive the max difficulty I can, where I extract with several deaths and very little time remaining. Or better to just go for the middle ground between the two (like doing easy or medium, with little to no deaths and an ok amount of time left). Also which of the above would be best for a defense campaign? And sorry if you answered any of these questions in the video and I just misunderstood it. I’m a bit tired at the moment 😅. I had just watched a different video that mentioned that trivial was the most efficient because of how fast you could get them done. Also I think I remember seeing the timer on defense missions get more time on it when I complete an operation or mission (not sure which as I was just chilling in low level missions at the time). But someone did mention that trivial missions were efficient because you could do them Super Earthly fast and each one “counts as a completed operation.” So yeah, just wondering what your take on all that is. And thank you for the info! I didn’t know most of this, so thank you for spreading the information around to your fellow divers. Edit: I’m also curious about this because I’m wondering what’s most efficient for my personal time playing as well. As I was doing trivial missions just because I could get way more done in the time I have to play.

[@MarshallMarshall90]

The biggest determining factor for finding the most "efficient" way is how the liberation scaling function (Impact modifier) is calculated, if you spam trivials you may do slightly more damage personally by the end of you session but everyone else online at the same time as you will do less damage as a result of the extra instances of damage you are putting in the modifiers calculation. TLDR is on the grand scheme playing the highest difficulty you can full clear and extract will yield the best results for liberation. Death penalties and time remaining bonuses will never be large enough to compensate for giving up the larger difficulty multiplier your liberation gets from higher difficulty missions.

[@larkspur1st168]

@@MarshallMarshall90 Got it! I’ll change up what difficulty I play on. See you out there, and happy diving!

[@mcarpen89]

A factor that always gets left out of these discussions is that many players simply pick a planet based on what kinds of missions, planetary effects, and biomes they want to play. I'd wager that at least 20% of players at any given time don't care about galactic war progression at all and just pick planets based on what they want to do that day. People were begging for supply line visibility and other key info on the war table for months. It was provided and... nothing changed. People still play the planets they want to play. Adding regen rates and other info will not fix that. At some point you have to accept the compromise the game made with immersion for the sake of player freedom.