Do You NEED a 2023 Ford Raptor R? - Supercharged 5.0L F150 vs 5.2L Raptor R

[@americantrucks]

Which truck are YOU taking? The Raptor R or the Supercharged Lariat? Let us know! Click HERE to SUBSCRIBE! : bit.ly/2pReEeg

[@OliG2]

Supercharged Lariat with a 2/4 drop and performance tires on 22s !

[@americantrucks]

@OliG2 I looooooove me a lowered truck - especially a regular cab. -Zach

[@05EVORS]

​@@B49nopeyep even out here in Socal where it was purposed for lol

[@thomasblankinship98]

​@@B49nopesame for the mighty T-Rex.

[@adrianharrison5208]

For me its going to be a short box single cab and maybe just RWD with that supercharger, The Raptor is just a waste for what I want.

[@TheMeanmarine13]

Another win for the lariat 5.0. That truck is such a sleeper too. My last 2 trucks had the Coyote and I absolutely loved it. I have a powerstroke diesel now for personal needs but there's always gonna be a soft spot in my heart for the 5.0.

[@americantrucks]

Hell yeah Marine! Feels good to be back in a 5.0 after the 3.5 Raptor. Thanks for watching sir. -Justin

[@concealit4800]

Just remember those tires on the r slow it down alot

[@digscruze2593]

Justin always lightening up the mood with his down to earth commentary. This guy is a gem!

[@americantrucks]

We love having Justin on the team, we definitely is! Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@masoncoleman3999]

Hell yeah Coyote! My whipple kit is in the mail now. Bolting it on a 23 black appearance package soon!!

[@americantrucks]

Dude, you are going to LOVE it. Congrats! -Justin

[@ChrisM-dx8up]

I feel like if you care enough for aesthetics, you can even put 10 grand into modding the lariat and have it looking insanely good. Just seems like a much better financial deal than getting a raptor R.

[@289pinto]

Unless you actually use it for what it's for totally agree

[@TheCOWBOYRANCHER]

Add some off-road tires to that 5.0, custom exhaust and off-road suspension upgrades 🤘🏼.

[@americantrucks]

Not a bad idea. 😉 Thanks for watching!! -Zach

[@bunghole2826]

The Raptor R has a suspension that is in another world compared to the lariat. You couldn’t even make a regular F-150 handle like a Raptor R off road with all the mods you wanted. The frame it’s self on the R is different, very very different.

[@question_it_701]

Where did he say it wasn't?

[@JROC734]

The Raptor is also ugly, and not everyone needs or wants a truck designed for highspeed O/R. The Raptors suspension limits its towing and payload compared to a F150 with either the tow package or max tow package. How many people benefit more from a desert racer setup as opposed to one made to tow/haul more?

[@roniebonilla8611]

​@@JROC734well, a lot of us watching the video here will probably disagree with that opinion, just like Justin, if we could afford it, it wouldn't even be a question. But we also get the truck that suits our needs. If you need to tow (bc none of us buy trucks like that to see how much you can fit in the back), you get a tow rig, but there are quite a bit of people that do get those for sheer fun.

[@JROC734]

@@roniebonilla8611 well then rock out with your Glock out, I guess man. If you feel the need to buy it as a toy then spend your $ as you see fit. The reality is that 90% of the people living on the east coast who buy them have 0 need for what the factory claims they're intended for. You buy it because you think it's cool, and it's a status symbol, but you're willing to compromise practicality to ride in a tall/wide truck. Why is it that people with Raptors, TRX, or lifted trucks, running large/aggressive O/R tires, always have the cleanest trucks? My stock ride height, factory tire FX4 gets me in the woods, and through the fields just fine. Raptors, TRX's, and even ZR2's to some extent look tacky and gaulky. They certainly aren't clean, elegant looking trucks. A RST or High Country looks way better than a ZR2. A Laramie looks way better than a TRX. A King Ranch looks way better than a Raptor. A Tundra Platinum looks way better than a TRD PRO. A Titan Platinum looks way better than a PRO-4X. They look like big Tonka trucks or something. Plus they're (Raptors and TRX's) slow on the street relative to the power they're making, and if high single digit/low double digit MPG's are your thing then again you do you. My favorite O/R toys were always 2 stroke dirt bikes, but that's just me I guess. Also why is every time someone brings up towing when talking 1/2 tons everyone acts like if you need to tow your boat or Foxbody that you should just go buy you a 1 ton truck? (BTW my parents live about a 1/2 mile from me and do own a 18 F350 XLT FX4 302A PSD dually for when I need to tow really large loads) Why do I wish to compromise on ride quality, handling, cost of ownership, ease of living with a truck in crowded areas, etc, on a truck that's able to tow over 16 tons? Unless you go with the gasoline option in a 3/4 ton then your payload is no better than it is in a half ton, but a gasoline 3/4 doesn't tow like a diesel, gets poor MPG's, and is way slower than a 1/2 ton or diesel truck. We're comparing 1/2 tons here, and a F150 with the tow package or max tow package is rated to tow and haul considerably more than a Raptor. I have an 03 Lightning that has the drivetrain to tow great, just not the wheelbase, suspension, or tire setup to do so. A Whippled GEN3 Coyote crewcab 4WD truck running a proper tune (not some factory Whipple, ultraconservative tune) and E85 will wax fat on a stock Raptor R on the highway. You could likely mod the Raptor R, and a Predator is going to be a more robust engine for boosted, high HP, but HP for HP a Raptor R sitting on big/heavy 37's will not run with a FX4 sitting on 32's or now 33's. If 750-800 HP is all you need then a GEN3+ Coyote is plenty capable of supporting that HP level.

[@PrincipalityofZeon]

​​@@roniebonilla8611Just like your opinion 😂😂 No sane person likes their own comment btw

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

My Dad just bought the 1st HP700 at his dealership. It's definitely a neck snapper if your not ready! I call it the "ButtPucker" Atlas Blue, Lowered, Borla Exhaust System, Upgraded brakes, Launch Control Bronze Edition. Its a beast that runs like a bat out of hell! 🤟

[@DarkKnightOne]

The F150 with a nice custom is a so much better option, it will never be a Raptor, but the price too... Good too see you Justin !

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching!!

[@brettyoung1659]

I have a 2021 FX4 with the 3.5 . Evolution intake MBRP race exhaust and Livernois performance tune. 3.55 rear. Less than $2000.00 for the build and the thing flies.

[@Kamal_AL-Hinai]

Always a pleasure to see you Justin

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@kingshawn1857]

I ask this for all of my fellow car enthusiast can we get a raptor r video with a 35" tire swap you would definitely be the first and only channel to do it so far I beg you

[@svt89]

That whipple tune really is tamed down a lot . Would like to see your truck on a custom tune .

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Hey Justin ma man,I always enjoy your reviews/comparisons.we all know the Raptor/R is a beast! .,infact the entire F150 is awesome! & I must say I dig your truck being in FX4.

[@05EVORS]

RCSBs 4wds w whipples are the 'fast car' ego killers. Quicker than any factory PU truck, 50 state smog legal, can haul a couple dirtbikes while seating 1 more adult than a danny disco 2 seater sportscar.l that scrapes speedbumps. Its a real world do it all vehicle except hitting Gs in corners.

[@boowee637]

Just picked mine up a month ago. Its almost bittersweet how easy it is.

[@LightningRich00]

This is exactly what I am doing. Lariat 502a crew cab 4wd and getting a Whipple or VMP. #Sleeper

[@derrickwhite2416]

I would take the Lariat all day long over the 150K Raptor R. You can add a lift kit and some nice rims and tires to the Lariat and it would look a lot better.

[@henrybrar]

Exactly and also you can upgrade 1 step at a time rather than dumping all the money on R at same time.

[@americantrucks]

Thank you guys for both watching! While Justin has a soft spot for Raptors (especially with a supercharged V8), I think he'd agree with both of you! -Zach

[@TheNameIsEvan]

What is the mpg on the lariat with the whipple on it?

[@chrisreynolds6152]

That coyote motor is wayyyy cheaper to replace as well if you ever had to.

[@americantrucks]

Very true! Fingers crossed you'd never have to pay for that kind of repair though haha! Thanks for watching. -Zach

[@luisballa0]

Good stuff Justin!

[@Frd4Lf]

In the f150 is it 3.31 or 3.73 axle?

[@upshifter5316]

Oh man you were so close…! Both trucks were right there! I can’t believe you didn’t swap the normal f150 wheels onto the Raptorrrrrr for a pull or three…. The internet wants to know!!

[@gorilladaddy7897]

Tremor n whipple is where its at.

[@mjflit]

What would the whipple truck have run with it in 4HI I wonder?

[@aymanlockhartable]

Wish had 5.0 Ford Expedition!

[@misfits-of-war9970]

With that $85k left over you could make you F150 an 8 second truck or spend a bit more and get a KNINE ranger with 36”+ wheel travel with full cage and swing arms and have a legit off-road truck…..

[@American_Proud]

Even the adrenaline factor for either of those F-150s can't outweigh the ridiculous price tags. I'll just have to stick with my 18 Lariat 3.5 EB until I win the lottery.

[@americantrucks]

Y'know those EcoBoosts get a ton of power with some high-flow down-pipes and a tune. 😉 -Zach

[@omnipresentvideo7686]

Plenty of people making the same power from EB anyway they just don't sound as good. I'd be concerned about long term engine life more too.

[@allenbee3928]

5.0 i just add 35 tires and a lift kit and thats it and borla exhaust

[@americantrucks]

Sick little build plan! Hard to go wrong with a Borla either! -Zach

[@wilheimreis8272]

absolutely luv this

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching!! -Zach

[@ecu4awhile]

To Be Fair a LMS 93 3.5 TT Tune ONLY does sub 4.0 seconds to 60. price tag of $600.

[@jonfroio3700]

For the money the 5.0 with a blower is much cheaper

[@americantrucks]

Definitely cheaper and just as fun! ... Just isn't a Raptor though. 😂 Thanks for watching!! -Zach

[@jonfroio3700]

That’s for sure was close to ordering one but not for that money I have a 22 lariat 5.0 bap leveled on 22x10 -18 offset I need to add a supercharger

[@richarddonnagriffin7369]

Lariat for the Win in my book!

[@jsclayton]

Is that the Ford Performance blower kit you can get from the dealer?

[@americantrucks]

Nope! Its a Whipple 3.0L Kit you can get right on our site! amtrucks.at/3JsPJaU -Zach

[@jeffmonson2073]

What kind of gas mileage do you get with that whipple blower?

[@americanmuscle]

I was averaging around 15mpg after the blower. That's dipped a little now with the lift and 35"s- that build video is coming soon. -Justin

[@Sptsmn700]

I’m getting 9mpg with mine lol

[@damnsnowflakes2403]

You don't buy trucks for gas mileage

[@michoacanom4320]

I bet you can swap the suspension of the raptor R into the lariat and make it offroad worthy for less then the raptor 150k price tag COYOTE ALL THE WAY

[@question_it_701]

So the formula is "smaller tires = less weight, less circumference, less whatever, right?". So..imagine if you somehow equipped one of the trucks with 10" wheelbarrow tires. Would it be even faster? According to the formula, it would. But I have a hard time envisioning that.

[@289pinto]

For a daily id, take yours for sure

[@americantrucks]

Justin's Lariat is definitely a little more tame for the streets... for now. 😎 Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@bravomike09]

What is the gross weight of each truck?

[@dt76028]

Who does the tuning on the 5.0?

[@3esa201o]

Swap the tires

[@jP-nw7nm]

I'd only choose the R to sell It and buy yours lol

[@bonn1771]

Still take f150 as a sleeper

[@s.daniels_9053]

Need one for my truck 😁

[@americantrucks]

You can get one on our site! 😉 -Zachj

[@dailylife3975]

Ford should of never put 37" tires on the raptor without putting different front and rear ring and pinion. Cause its still the same as the v6 gearing

[@Megabloks69]

no its not, the raptor R has 4.10 gears

[@dailylife3975]

@@Megabloks69 the v6 raptor and the raptor R gave the same gearing

[@dailylife3975]

@@Megabloks69 have the same 4.10 gears

[@wisdumb4891]

It’s a supercharged 5.0, 12k package, with ZERO other upgrades. Stock fuel system, stock breaks, stock trans, etc.

[@americantrucks]

Fair point! That may change soon though. 😉 Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@MarcMonson]

throw a set of normies on the raptor once tuning support is unlocked so top speed limiter can be removed and rerun it

[@ilocanodetoy2225]

They look alike just buy Raptor grill and it’s a Raptor.

[@americantrucks]

The Raptor R is a much bigger truck in person, those 37s and wider fenders really help there. A new grille would help make them look a little more similar though! Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@josipdolic6391]

Cool

[@gman3563]

The raptor is even faster if you use the auto hold and just slam the gas it launches like a drunken bear

[@OliG2]

These aftermarket kits are SO overrated ! This 775hp kit is at best a 700hp kit, just like Ford’s 700hp kit is at best a 650hp and more realistically a 625hp kit. They’re still good, my dream is to have one of these, but the advertised numbers are way too exaggerated ! I’d get the Lariat with a 2/4 drop and performance tires on 22s 🤤

[@ALMX5DP]

Yeah I feel like the kits need to stipulate that a good dyno tune session is probably needed to get anywhere close to what they advertise. I’d be interested to see what kinds of gains are possible doing that over using just the canned tune they provide.

[@gnarlytothemax]

V8 is must

[@americantrucks]

They're hard to beat, thats for sure! Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@beauxdishon1010]

U had a bad raptor launch haha

[@jp23x]

Ford wants 30k for just an engine. The raptor r is identical to the base raptor. It's just a car for rich people. Makes no sense at all

[@ErikKoenig-fv3nr]

You dont lose hp based on tire size honnigan racing channel tested it on a rolling dyno and it made no difference having tiny tires or big offroad tires so just goes to show ford is shit and probably over inflating there numbers

[@boricuaspr]

$50k-$60k Lariat. where?

[@tier1detailcompany]

Haha right? Maybe well used lol

[@upshifter5316]

Ikr?!

[@waynefitzmaurice2126]

Just discovered you videos, informative, fast paced, not overly technical, realistic and fair analysis. Spot on, deserves more views

[@ScottO84]

The Raptor R hits 60 faster than the new S650 GT with some sticky meats on the rear. 😮

[@americantrucks]

The Raptor R is also supercharged from the factory. 😅 Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@kevinbreese5739]

Why not do a 1/4 mile?? Not to disrespect the RR, but it would have shown how fast a Whipple 5.0 is.

[@question_it_701]

Why not do a 1/2 mile or a mile?

[@aggiewoodie]

I’ve been thinking a Tremor with the 5.0 and Ford’s own supercharger (dealer installed, warrantied) would be a solid “poor man’s” Raptor R.

[@americantrucks]

That would be a sick combo! Definitely more of a usable daily-driver compared to the Raptor. -Zach

[@Frd4Lf]

Mpg for the R is around 10 mpg?

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

Hey Justin what exhaust do you have on your lariat? Love the side exit. Looks great. Any drone etc?

[@americantrucks]

Justin has a Corsa Sport System on his truck, you can find it at the following link! -Zach www.americantrucks.com/corsa-f150-sport-single-exhaust-system-with-black-tips-middle-side-exit-t570967.html

I do prefer the white F150

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@Mursedave]

Yolo! Get yourself a Raptor R 🤠

[@americantrucks]

Haha that's the spirit! Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@m.romaithi6217]

Well, the 5.0 makes more HP and it's a tad quicker, but the real question is how long will that engine last before it blows up?

[@69BOSS429]

5.0’s love boost, they have for the last 10 years.

[@m.romaithi6217]

@@69BOSS429 I didn't say that the 5.0 doesn't like boost. The simple fact is the engine internals were not designed to handle such power (almost double the stock) while the 5.2 is built for such power.

[@spdemonsloan]

​​@@m.romaithi6217they can hold 1000hp and still be dds

[@m.romaithi6217]

@@spdemonsloan dd as in you rarely step on it. Do your research and see how many motor are blown up from 750HP only

[@05EVORS]

Romaith, quit being poor making excuses about reliability/warranty and hating on the 5.0....go get a v8 tundra and blow $8k on a magnussen blowr to get 550hp so you can be 'reliable' and slow. You have no clue what your talking about.

[@randytrivitt6539]

You got That right appreciate the video not everybody can afford the Ford raptor!! Rather had the affordable truck anyway that's good enough for the blue collar man!! Thanks 👍👍👍👍😳❤️🤍💙🇺🇸💪

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching!! -Zach