Do You Need a Cloudlifter for the PodMic & Rodecaster Pro?

[@tombuck]

Time Markers- 0:00 - Head in the Clouds 0:53 - Does the PodMic Need a Boost? 1:34 - Cloudlifter vs. Fethead 3:28 - Build Quality & Setup 4:30 - My Equipment Setup 4:52 - 1st Test (No Cloudlifter) 6:21 - 2nd Test (With Cloudlifter) 7:16 - Rodecaster Cloudlifter Settings 9:27 - The Rodecaster’s Built in Preamps 9:58 - Using a Different Mixer (Yamaha MG10XU) 10:23 - The Magic of Phantom Power 11:32 - Yamaha Mixer without Cloudlifter 12:07 - Yamaha Mixer with Cloudlifter 13:46 - Making This Video Changed My Mind 14:30 - The Biggest Con: Price. 15:22 - So, Do You Need a Cloudlifter? 15:58 - How I Approach My Reviews

[@marditoon1128]

If i was going to record a podcast using 4 mics, do i need a 4 channel cloudlifter? Great vid. Thanks

[@MsRobstar]

The cloud signal does sound way better!! As a audio engineer I have noticed over the years that better gain does help the mic perform better. With high-end mic pre’s I have learned that you are paying for the clean power. Great video 👍🏾‼️

[@tombuck]

Interesting- this would explain why the mics do sound slightly different. I didn't realize levels could affect quality.

[@piratetech3722]

I think one of the biggest problems with the Caster is that I often heard hiss while monitoring that never showed up on the recordings. This is down to the headphone amp used within the unit itself. You kind of have to train yourself to 'ignore' which is incredibly difficult. But the fact remains the unit has class A preamps so any mic that draws less than 55db will be fine. If you were using a Heil PR40 or the SM7B I would say the cloudlifter would be a good shout! Love the videos as ever!

[@tombuck]

Yes! I’ve definitely noticed hiss in the headphones that doesn’t end up on the recording.

[@modifiedabsolute2939]

You don't have to have the Fethead directly into the back of the mic. You can have it between the XLR and the interface or even between two XLRs, exactly the same as the Cloudlifter

[@SingularityMedia]

Precisely. I run the fethead from the interface on a short XLR, then run a longer XLR to the mic.

[@EasyKill7]

Today, we did test audio with the Cloudlifter and we were very impressed with the sound quality attached to the podmic. I tend to sound a little nasally on the mic, so the cloudlifter made a big difference. Although, I will need to readjust the levels for the next session.

[@tombuck]

Fantastic! I'm happy to hear it. Have you tried the WS2 wind screen? If you sound nasally, it will cut down the high end a bit and round out the sound.

[@EasyKill7]

@@tombuck Not yet. I am actually going to order one and see if it helps my co-host.

[@MrWhizeGuy]

Thats why the klark teknik ct1 was made, i use it on my PodMic and it made that little differance aswell! For only 29$ its really good!

[@AthanCondax]

First of all, those XLR cables are really cool! I like how the purple background light is opposite of the purple XLR and the blue background light is opposite of the blue cable. Nice touch! I doubt that was unintentional. I know you pay a lot of attention to your setup and it's really nice.

[@tombuck]

Thank you for catching my unnecessary Easter eggs 😁

[@vardhanmahajan7135]

I like how you keep your setups simple, I think that makes it easier to record more, and that makes me more consistent, that you for teaching me that, it has helped out a lot!

[@tombuck]

Yes! That’s a big part of it for sure.

[@BasicFilmmaker]

Partly cloudy. LOL!!!! Nice stuff man. Next time, how about 5 seconds rippin on the drum set? 👍

[@tombuck]

Oooh- I like it. I like it...

[@motioncontroller]

Absolute LEGEND!

[@GaryCantrell]

To my ear the cloud lifter sounded much cleaner and the audio more richer and full. I have the exact set up as you Podmic and Rodecaster. I kinda wanna check it out now for my set up and see how it goes.

[@tombuck]

I also feel like it did sound a little better, which is interesting since I would expect it to only affect the levels and not the quality. Although I guess levels can be tied to quality...

[@RyanWitherspoon]

Man the cloud lifter made a noticeable difference when you go between both mics

[@andisbimax]

Yes, its sounds much fuller for me too.

To me it sounded darker. There is less presence.

[@ChrisDavisTrumpet]

*THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH* for testing the Yamaha! I have the same mixer and have been having trouble on video conferences with people saying they can't hear me. I came across the Cloud Lifter and wondered if it could solve my problem but was skeptical. So, THANK YOU!!!! A pleasant surprise in this video.

[@tombuck]

Really glad it helped! Definitely makes a huge difference with that mixer.

[@Convology]

Maybe I'm weird, but I like the sound when you're talking through the shotgun mic (Rode Videomic NTG?) while explaining the setup a whole lot more than the sound through the podmics. Would love to see a video about how you could set that up to go into a computer to use for streaming / talking vides while keeping it out of frame (no post processing if possible). Super insightful video Tom, thank you.

[@tombuck]

The Videomic can be connected directly to your camera, and then depending on your capture card, it can be selected as an audio source for streaming 👍

[@samfraulino]

You are the only video I could find that talks about the issue with the volume on the Rode PodMic and Rodecaster Pro. I have to keep my gain at 42-45 and then my volume on my slider level at 2 to 3 notches above unity level, that was baffling me and fucked up a few of my recordings. I just wasn't thinking the volume had to be so high along with thinking my gain level for each mic set at 10 above what comes standard. Thanks for demoing and your time on this, it helped me out and put me on the right track to solve my issue, Your channel is super rad.

[@tombuck]

Thanks Sam! I'm glad it helped- hopefully you can get everything sorted out.

[@samfraulino]

Tom Buck getting there. :-) question, if you go into effects edit mode and make some adjustments, then turn effects editor off and go back to simple mode, does the Rode use your adjusted settings or void them and use all default on their dummy/simple mode?

[@tombuck]

I haven’t done extensive testing, but I believe it goes back to the simple versions.

[@samfraulino]

@@tombuck I appreciate your time and help, it's much appreciated ! Thank you

[@RenaldoQuestelles]

The one with the cloud lifter sound compressed and the highs aren’t as defined

[@LyonsDenTV]

The reason you have to turn the volume all the way up is because it is meant to use with headphones. If you have Headphones on your audio levels are drastically different. Just a note. Good video.

[@TomRafterytv]

Damn you Tom - you're killing my wallet man! I have a Rodecaster because of you. and now I have a Fethead because of you (I plugged it in to the back of the Rodecaster, instead of the back of the mic, so I don't see it). The audio quality of my two podcasts has gone way up though, and the Rodecaster has made my workflow so streamlined that I'm publishing 3 episodes a week, so thanks for that :)

[@tombuck]

1. My condolences to your wallet. 2. I’m glad your show is going well and sounding great!

[@TomRafterytv]

Thanks @@tombuck

[@bree_wolf]

I set my Podcast up using the Rodecaster Pro and the Pod Mic from all the information I learnt from your numerous videos on the subject. My brothers, who are my co-hosts, looked at me like I was an audio genius when I was implementing the settings 😂 Thank you!

[@tombuck]

Nice! I’m glad you were able to be impressive 🙌🏻

[@larryhinze9314]

You learnt rail gewd.

[@traceysmiley7]

I bought both the Rodecaster Pro, PodMic, and the Cloudlifter based on your videos. I definitely binge-watched a bunch of them. Thanks a lot, Tom!

[@tombuck]

Hopefully you’re liking all the gear! That’s an awesome setup!

[@traceysmiley7]

@@tombuck Yes, loving it so far! I recorded a voiceover with a client for one of their promo videos and it sounded great.

[@mindbendernine]

"... Now you press the 48V phantom power and..." BOOM ! I can't tell you how many times I've done that personally. Great video, as always!

[@tombuck]

Haha, I had to turn down that audio A LOT when editing to protect everyone’s ears. 😬

[@7MrJacob]

I am running a budget audio setup. Focusrite Scarlett Solo Rode Podmic I just got the cloudlifter cl1 as a gift and I can definitely say it makes a wild difference to me.

[@MikeCassidyPhotography]

This is true in my experience, as well. If I use the Rodecaster/Podmic combo on Zoom or Squadcast it seems to be fine. I never have anyone mention my audio sounds low. When I record audio into the Rodecaster, then input into Audacity the levels are always low, and the sound always has to be boosted in Audacity. It doesn't sound that way when recording-- I guess because your headphone jack volume is independent...so it's tough to know exactly what's going on. The situation isn't the end of the world... It merely becomes annoying to me to have to constantly boost the vocal track each and every time you import. This video was super helpful-- the Cloudlifter may solve that problem. Thanks!

[@tombuck]

It could also be that Zoom is doing some sort of processing maybe? I did recently find the option to “turn on original audio” in Zoom, which makes it use the raw input from your mixer or mic and I think it sounds much much better!

[@MikeCassidyPhotography]

@@tombuck Hi Tom. I think you're correct. I'm not that well versed on Zoom, but I think by default they mess with your audio-- trying to filter out background noise, etc. I believe this can be turned off. I think sites like Zencastr and Squadcast may give you more pure audio on the fly, and afterward do some kind of leveling/manipulation. I guess the key is that all the platforms are a bit different, you want to make the best of whatever particular service/devices you are using to give your listeners the best experience, and that can take some time & tweaking to get right.

[@andyto]

Thanks for the breakdown Tom! Great info for someone like myself who’s new to audio

[@tombuck]

Glad it was helpful!

[@AnthonyPham]

Andy To in the house! 🤯

[@ac1320]

The FEThead can also connect at the mixer/ interface end to keep the aesthetics of the mics. I also like the easy breakdown and packaging for travel. Great video as usual!

[@tombuck]

That's a great point- I didn't think of that!

[@S.T.G.]

@@tombuck Yes, the FEThead can be connected at the mixer but in this setup it will also add its gain to any noise which is picked up by the _cable_ between the mic and the FETHead. And it is also the same for the Cloudlifter! Which means that it is advisable to keep the length of the cable between the mic and the Cloudlifter as short as possible while the other cable between the Cloudlifter and the mixer can be longer without the danger of adding noise at high level (amplified by the Cloudlifter). OK, there is not much chance for it in a podcast situation where everything is arranged on a table, however, when the mic is on a stage and the cable length to the mixer is say 60 feet, the Cloudlifter definitely should be on the stage next to the mic tripod.

[@DammaChakku]

Once I had a volume issue with my RCP with firmware ver. 2.1, then I just tried the “factory reset” which made it louder than it was before. I guess it is worth trying factory reset once in a while.

[@tombuck]

Wow, that's pretty interesting 🤔

[@daktariwameno]

As far as I know, the Fethead can be connected on either side of a XLR cable, as well as directly to your mic and your Roadcaster. Therefore, you get additional options. You are not limited to plugging it into the microphone directly.

[@tombuck]

Yep, the FetHead really is great. I've been able to use one since making this video and it's probably my favorite booster.

[@gamerpoets]

Makes me happy when I stop in and see your channel growing. Keep going :)

[@tombuck]

Hey thank man!

[@taylorclarkjohnson]

“And that would be partly cloudy!” Ha! So cheesy… but I laughed. Yup. 😁

[@tombuck]

I was really proud of that one.

[@isamuthefox]

i know the rodecaster pro is probably a solid device, but i can't help but feel it's unnecessary once you add a cloud lifter. the goxlr has a cloud lifter built in, and it can be enabled or disabled depending on what kind of mic you're using, for $250 for the mini it might seem like it's a bit much, but when you consider the feature set, i would still choose that over the rodecaster pro

[@Rivenworld]

Looked at the Cloudlifter for my Procaster but ended up buying a Fethead for £44, astonishing difference, so good in fact I bought another one for my Ribbon mic, all in £88 for 2 - works for me and it is a simple in-line job rather than a great big box sitting in-line.

[@tombuck]

That's awesome! I'm glad it's working out for you.

[@larryoscs]

I've been looking for ways to make the magic happen we needed without having to buy more gear. We were having issues where either the built in amplification was dropping or it was attenuating the signal. Either way, we found a fix. Using the built in "level" options, we changed it from 35 to 43 and the difference was phenomenal!

[@tombuck]

I'm glad to hear it! It is always nice to find a simple solution like that.

[@AwesomeSauce-fp8tf]

For people on a budget Klark Teknik has a mic booster that’s WAAYYY cheaper than the cloud lifter. The cm-1 is a 1 channel booster and is $48 and the cm-2 is a 2 channel and is $78. Edit: Atm they are both on sale at Sweetwater! CM-1 is $29 and the CM-2 is $48!

[@WitchKing99]

Thanks a lot for this video! I am using the PodMic through the Yamaha MG10XU Mixer and people often told me that I sound quiet even though the Gain, the Level and the software levels (Windows options, Discord, etc.) are almost on the edge. Now I know WHY the Yamaha Mixer isn't the best friend of the PodMic. :D

[@tombuck]

Yep! It's a great mixer, but doens't quite have the gain for a lot of dynamic mics.

[@kimblers]

I can see the benefit of a booster, But I’ve used a Rodecaster and have never had a volume problem or a hiss. Mine sounds great. But again, I can see where a booster could prove useful. Thanks for the video

[@tombuck]

It’s great if you don’t need to spend the extra money on one 👍

[@ShermanRagland]

Pad 2 (cloudlifter) was noticeably better. Not just louder, but cleaner and fuller. Thanks for doing this!

[@tombuck]

I think the Cloudlifter brought out some tonal qualities of the mic that otherwise went unnoticed.

[@UndergroundNetwork]

If you're like me, you probably have your Mic Tone and Strength set differently for yourself and your wife (Channel 1 & 2) which is why there was a difference in sound between the Cloudlifter Mic vs. the one without the Cloudlifter. I did the same comparison myself and then realized that I had different settings for myself (channel 1) and my wife (channel 2). With the same settings there was no difference. Even still, I went ahead and bought the 2-channel cloudlifter based on this video to give myself some extra room.

[@wayneJohnsPhotographer]

Hey Tom, You can plug the fethead into the back of your Rodecaster Pro unit instead of the back of your mic, it works just the same and looks much cleaner than having it hanging it out the back of the mic, and cuts down on extra cables everywhere. The Fethead is cheaper too :)

[@tombuck]

Great point, thanks man!

[@Digital.Done.Right.]

You should know the Fethead does not need to be on the mic. It can be inline just like you have with your Cloudlifter

[@StefanKamer]

This depends. It is specifically designed to be plugged into the mic directly, but can in most situations be fine otherwise too. In some more picky microphones it can pose a problem if not used on the mic itself (I've experienced this myself). Beyond this, there is also a performance benefit to connecting the Fethead directly to the mic instead of to the interface (more specifically, the closer to the mic, the better). See this link for reference of testing: podcastage.com/rev/fetheadmicint

[@denimandlead7725]

10/10 video, my man. I’m subbing because this has helped a lot with more than just pulling the trigger on a Cloudlifter

[@tombuck]

I'm so glad it was helpful! Now that it's been a while, I can say the Cloudlifter is definitely worth it.

[@RVTravelingMIAResearcher]

I have the same set up and have the slider on the Rodecaster one notch from the end as well. I do get a noticeable hiss with my headphones on and in my workflow I edit in audacity, then run the final edit through Auphonic online with excellent results. If my podcast had daily episodes I could see spending the extra $200 on the cloudlifter but for only dropping one episode a week, Auphonic is the way to go.

[@tombuck]

Makes perfect sense! This is why it's so dependent on workflow. 👍

[@CloudMicrophones]

Hi Tom, Thanks for the great review of our CL-2!

[@tombuck]

You’re welcome! I’ve been using it every day since this and it’s worked great. The tight XLR input has loosened up, so all is well.

[@justin5421]

Klerk teknik now makes a CM-1and CM-2 that is designed just like the cloudlifter and gives the same +25 dB of clean gain! I have a co-host so I went with the CM-2 and it’s only $78! Klerk teknik also makes a CT-1 which is designed like the fethead for $30

[@tombuck]

How interesting, thanks for the heads up!

[@justin5421]

@@tombuck No problem. I Just ordered the RCP and 2 Rode PodMics because of you. Rode should really start sending you their new products to do reviews on. You are one of my fave KZbin channels! Thanks and keep up the good work

[@tombuck]

Wow! Thank you! I hope you like your new gear 👍

[@inyangeffiong]

Hi Tom, I use a Fethead and it is plugged into my Focusrite and the microphone XLR cable is then plugged into it. The Fethead does not necessarily have to be plugged into the microphone end.

[@tombuck]

Oh! That's awesome!

[@daveyb6010]

The PodMic probably sounds better at 13:46 because the Cloudlifter has optimal impedance loading for dynamic microphones that better matches the PodMic.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

Great video, but the fader all the way up isn't really saying much. It's what your style is. If you are mixing more like a radio dj, those consoles also usually have their faders all the way up. It's far easier live if you have to talk as well. (Live) mixing engineers are usually the ones having their faders at the "0dB" mark so that they have 6-12dB (depending on the console) headroom on the fader. But those people usually aren't fully involved with the podcast/radio show outside mixing the show. This isn't and shouldn't be mistaken for a mic with too low output. Just wanted to give you a heads up!

[@PhillipBridgesReviews]

The video I have been waiting for! I'll be getting one for my SM57 soon. Thanks, Tom

[@tombuck]

Glad it helped! It definitely answered the question for me.

[@thementaledgepodcast8012]

Great comparison, some people have suggested that some of the rodecaster "hiss' or floor noise is coming from the headphone amp. So my first effort to combat the noise i was hearing when i would mix the podcast was to ask a few guests to go headphone less for a session. I turned down all of the headphone amp volumes and recorded. Guess what...noise was still there during mixing and mastering. So i am now going to use a Cloudlifter alternative. the klarkteknik ct1and i am hoping that the ability to turn down the RodeCaster Pro's independent mic gain will make the ultimate difference. great content..thank you.

[@jeffparryncc1701]

Love the sound of the Rode PodMic's too.

[@steveray8124]

I already have the scarlet interface 48 V it pushes my Sony SM7B but not very well so I ordered the Rodecaster the other day and one more SM7B. I’m probably going to buy the cloud lifter. My studio is finally all done.

[@tombuck]

Wow! That sounds like quite a setup. I really do think the SM7B shines the best with a Cloudlifter.

[@steveray8124]

@@tombuck I’m just glad I got my studio done too bad I can’t show it to you but you can check it out on Facebook is my profile Picture Steve Ray. I put a few pictures on my timeline I have a few more acoustical things I want to do and then I’m done for now I mean you’re never done you always want something.

[@autismdad8893]

I ordered the Klark Teknik version of the 2 plug Cloudlifter for $85 from Sweetwater. I will be using with a Rode Caster and podmics. Will give a review. Thanks I purchased because they said the podmic and procaster pro need the boost similar to the SMB. Thanks for the review. I couldnt pay that much bit still want quality sound.

[@tombuck]

Curious to see how it works for you. I'm glad to see Sweetwater get some love, they're terrific!

[@djtommykeys]

Ha! I used that Yamaha mixer for years until it literally blew up in smoke on stage and took out everything plugged into it. Preamps definitely have a sweet spot which you don't want to exceed for too long or you will be pushing the electronics to an early demise. Looks like you found the sweet spot. Great video as always. I've got some rewards points and am considering a PodMic. Like I need another microphone around here, lol. Peace.

[@tombuck]

Holy moly, that's once way for a mixer to make an exit! 🤯

[@djtommykeys]

@@tombuck Never trust tech. Decepticons are everywhere. 🤣

[@PrestonJensen]

Interesting. I need to go look at my settings. I do not use a cloud lifter and I have never had my sliders above half way. Sometimes I have to lower the sliders because I think they are too loud.

[@tombuck]

Really?! I’m curious now, because your stuff always sounds really good.

[@PrestonJensen]

@@tombuck I will look over my settings tonight and send you what I have. It’s got me really wondering, what could possibly be so much different.

[@ScottSmithDev]

Wow I’m really curious about your settings, too, because mine are like Tom’s. Maxed out.

[@PrestonJensen]

@@tombuck checked my settings over lunch. My settings for my last podcast episode are below. 🎙 PodMic RCP firmware:2.0.4 Gain: +37 Phantom Power: off Voice strength and tone: Medium Rode PodMic setting selected Compressor:On De Esser: On High Pass Filter: On Noise Gate: On Aphex Processing features: On Slider located below the midpoint Love the videos. Your audio is always nice and crispy!

[@asrarhassan]

I think there's a subtle difference with Cloudlifter. Cloudlifter is making your PodMic sound like SM7b, maybe because I'm used to listening to all SM7b mics with cloudlifter, don't know but that's what I'm hearing.

[@tombuck]

There is definitely a difference and I'm not totally sure why, but I like it.

[@RafaelLudwig]

Thanks Tom, I've been on the fence with buying one because of the price as well. The clean signal is very important for live broadcasts, but for post stuff I add Denoise. Thanks for your thoughts on this, will have to reconsider.

[@tombuck]

I think someone with your standards would really appreciate the extra polish. I mean that as a compliment. 😁

[@RafaelLudwig]

@@tombuck considering audio is my weakest link, I will take all the help I can get! You painted really well how much of a difference it can make.

[@tombuck]

Oh man, audio is so underrated in video! Same with lighting 👍 But your stuff always looks and sounds perfect.

[@amandayoung1278]

Denoise doesn’t work for me in getting rid of that hiss from the Rodecaster- it’s been driving me crazy (I’m actually wondering if I might have a faulty unit) so I just ordered two Fetheads for our two mics

[@judgeworks3687]

The cloud lifted mic sounds more bass than the non cloud lifted mic. Thanks for this demo- I was unfamiliar with cloudlifter.

[@tombuck]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Cons2911]

For like home use, that’s an additional cost and more cables. Like if I have an interface that’s maybe less than 200 maybe up to $230, buying a cloud lifter means spending the same amount as the interface. Or maybe stick with condenser

[@tombuck]

A condenser will save the need for a Cloudlifter, and of course a USB mic is the simplest route.

[@Cons2911]

@@tombuck I already have an interface, an old one though. Was eyeing rode nt1 (mainly bec of the rectangular pop filter, I know). But I want a different interface though , looking to get motu m2 which they say can drive some of the dynamic mics. Interested with the procaster too, but it’s too big haha

[@bernhardadam4700]

The one without the cloudlifter is much more clearer and dynamic. The cloudlifter is more agressive and compressed. This could sound good too - depends on the own voice - but the cloundlifter does effect the sound. A little bit more noise is no problem with todays hardware i think.

[@BrazenNL]

Tilt the plug down (towards the 2 pins, not the 1 pin) when unplugging has helped me with several devices.

[@tombuck]

It ended up becoming easier after a month or two. I think it just needed to be “broken in a bit”, but I’ll try the tilt tip next time I have this problem!

[@barryw8174]

I’m new to learning about streaming topics and you do an amazing job of breaking things down - keep up the great work !

[@tombuck]

Thank you!

[@sirstan51]

Great video. I'm about to order at least 1 podmic now that they are back in stock. I've been using my nt1a and while a great mic, condensers just don't do it for me with their super sensitivity. Using them with the RCP noise gate helps, but is also super distracting because of how evident the background noise is when mic engages. Also, that little Yamaha was my first mixer/AI as well. Something I keep for events. It served me well.

[@tombuck]

I think you’ll really like the PodMic!

[@sirstan51]

@@tombuck well....ordered the podmic, your suggest pop filter, and....and NTG4+ because why not? Lol. BTW, I like the sound of PodMic BETTER than SM7B in your comparison vid.

[@tombuck]

It’s a terrific mic, especially with the pop filter 👍

[@musanetesakupwanya1050]

I'm using the Procaster mic with the Scarlett 2i2, I'm thinking of going with Fethead cos in South Africa the prices are prohibitive for the Cloudlifter. On the Scarlett there's literally a point where the hiss just appears rather than a gradual thing, so I normally have to record low and boost in post. More than anything this got me to realise I DO need one of these devices cos I'm starting to do more professional voiceover work with my setup.

[@tombuck]

I have a friend who uses the Fethead with the Scarlett and it sounds terrific. He said it made a huge difference in quality.

[@musanetesakupwanya1050]

@@tombuck Thanks.. I found the last one on Amazon. It's cheaper to buy it and ship here, than to just buy it here. Literally half the price.. Sheesh!

[@inSpyr]

Thanks for comparing the PodMic & the SM7B, would love to see you review the Procaster mic and how it suits your voice since it is a perfect medium

[@tombuck]

Oh trust me, I would love to have a Procaster to review! Rode, if you’re listening...

[@NewYears1978]

This is going to save me. I was going nuts trying to setup my Rod Podmic use GoXLR I had the in app gain to 55 and had to turn my mic to max. Can't wait to get a fethead or cloud lifter.

[@tombuck]

The Cloudlifter really does help. The Fethead is also great if you want something more compact, and the Klark Teknik CT-1 is a good budget option.

[@NewYears1978]

​@@tombuck I just purchased a CT1 =D Excited to try it out!

[@raybreezee]

using studio monitors with the yamaha's hs8s and theres a huge difference fyi with the cloudlifter. Headphones don't always have a flat balance

[@tombuck]

The CloudLifter definitely either brings out different tones or colors the sound in some way.

[@LiveDeerCamByCajun]

thanks for the video, i just purchased a Cloudlifter and it works very well with my new Shure SM7B. Thanks for the reviews as they helped me in deciding which setup to go with.

[@tombuck]

Glad it helped! The SM7B really shines with a Cloudlifter.

[@LiveDeerCamByCajun]

@@tombuck I wanted to ask, I have a Canon EOS 1D X, How would it do streaming?

[@tombuck]

I haven’t used any of the 1 Series cameras, but I know the Mark 2 & 3 are super popular for video. Not sure about the original though.

[@LiveDeerCamByCajun]

@@tombuck Thank you

[@merlincomplex]

You can use an XLR on both sides of the Fethead, too. It doesn’t have to touch the mic or mixer.

[@thomassorheimdanielsen]

Hey, Røde! Can you please send Tom a Procaster, so we can have him test it out as well?

[@tombuck]

Yes, this. 👍

[@stereothrilla8374]

The cloud lifter sounds fuller and louder. However, sonically it does not sound like natural reproduction of speech. When someone speaks to you, you do not hear that bass and fullness in their voice. There are many ways you can achieve louder with those Shure mics without the unnatural bass reproduction unless you're going for that full testosteronie, NPR, eating the mic sound. Ultimately my advice for podcasters is focus on content, not sound quality. No one is not listening to your podcast because of the mild hiss or lack of fullness out of your microphone. They're not listening because you aren't talking about poignant, compelling or relevant topics in a sincere manner.

[@enjoiskating963]

I agree it’s all about content, but I’ve definitely stopped listening to a podcast 10 minutes in if they have poor audio quality

[@leestuart38]

Perfect timing! I've been wondering about this setup since I just got the rodecaster and a bunch of podmic's to build up a second channel doing some podcasts and live streaming, and that high gain/max volume situation wasn't sitting right in my head. Looks like I'll be ordering a few CL-2's tonight. Thanks for this one man

[@tombuck]

If you have the budget, they're definitely worth it, but the Rodecaster is pretty great in its own right.

[@ActionManXVI]

So I've got a podmic running off the audient evo 4 and ur videos have been really helpful on the mic and all the inline pre amp stuff

[@tombuck]

I’m really glad to hear that! 🙌 Thanks for letting me know!

[@kepohpodcast9074]

Thank You Tom. Maybe next u can show how to setup more then 5 mic using rodecaster pro. i mean adding more mixer or ways to do it.

[@tombuck]

That's basically it- you would connect he output from another mixer to one of the Rodecaster's inputs. It'd be a little weird, but it would work.

[@CJ-uh8bk]

Having to boost my Podmic to a good audio level was relatively easy on my GOXLR Mini, however compared to some other people for whatever reason I needed a little more gain on my Podmic then them, and even though I have a noise gate, the hiss is slightly noticeable at times which slightly annoys me, Fetheads are relatively cheap so probably gonna grab one of those

[@tombuck]

The GOXLR has quite a bit more gain than the original RCP, but I don't know how clean it is. The beauty of a booster is how clean the gain is. Take a look at the Klark Teknik CT-1 if you want a more budget-friendly option.

[@Mr_Boykin]

Super excited just got my Rodcaster today!

[@tombuck]

Woo hoo! Sounds like a fun weekend ahead 😁

[@Mr_Boykin]

Tom Buck the problem is I didn’t really need it and have absolutely no plans for it! I used to have an internet radio station I ran and this piece of equipment would have been a dream then! I guess I bought this with a retroactive mindset. I suppose I’m toying with the idea of podcasting again!

[@andyschar]

Thanks for this. You’ll probably notice more of a difference through the SM7B as opposed to the PodMic.

[@tombuck]

I believe so- I'm waiting to test it out.

[@Enonymouse_]

Single channel CL-1 cloud lifter is 149. The newer CL-Z Cloud lifter 1 is 249.

[@caseyonlocation8257]

Thanks for the video, Tom! Because the Rodecaster is pretty much a device that lives on top of a desk and doesn't go outside on location much or at all, using a Cloudlifter makes sense cuz the Cloudlifter also just stays put on the desk due to the size. But if using something like the very portable Zoom PodTrak P4 (or maybe the Zoom H6 recorder), then it would make more sense to use a Triton Fethead cuz it goes directly on the rear of the mic which makes it more compact and portable versus having a Cloudlifter which would make the whole setup less portable. By the way, having a Triton Fethead looks okay on the PodMic going into the Rodecaster. The Fethead is very compact and doesn't detract from the cool appearance of the PodMic in my opinion. But that huuuuge wind foam attached to the PodMic capsule on the other hand almost looks comical to the point I don't even use it when I probably should. With the Fethead attached, you can definitely reduce the fader at least a few notches lower to get rid of that background hiss. For now I'm only using a Fethead which I like a lot, but I may get that same 2 channel Cloudlifter cuz I also have 2 PodMics attached to my Rodecaster. Here's a very short video of my own Rodecaster and desk setup if you have time to watch it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5vIppWYqqqSaZI

[@DeanReynoldsMusic]

Even though the Fethead is amazing, I 100% prefer the Cloudlifter...especially that it. has two inputs. I always max my volume on my RCP so, I really need to get that cloudlifter!

[@tombuck]

The Cloudlifter has definitely been a nice addition overall.

[@DeanReynoldsMusic]

@@tombuck I don’t have money like you Tom! Lol

[@sophalam]

Omg I’ve been watching all your video about the podmic and the reviews and been contemplating on getting the cloud lifter for my podmic, pulled the trigger the other day, I am glade you made this video it provides some piece of mine on the $278aus spent

[@EliskaMartynek]

I think the quality of the sound is also much better with the cloudlifter.

[@DavidBrackett385]

I found this past week that se electronics version of their cloud lifter called dynamite added hiss to my audio chain, when you touched or wiggled a cable you would hear popping. cloud lifter is the way to go

[@tombuck]

Oh really? I've heard good things about the Dynamite overall, but haven't used it myself.

[@DavidBrackett385]

@@tombuck yeah man it was a defective one I think. I’m thinking of trying an at2020 with the rodecaster pro I have always wanted to get into condensers. I think I’ve got enough foam around me to try one now lol

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

Thx for the vid, yeah I think for my setup I'ma go w/ the Cloud Lifter. Just having that nice clean mic sound and the option for added volume is worth it.

[@tombuck]

Good choice!

[@DavidHdezES]

I would love to see a review with RODE Podmic + RODE AI-1 with and without cloud filter.

[@tombuck]

I'm curious about that too. I didn't know Rode even made a small interface until recently.

[@chrismitchell852]

Great comparison! Have always wondered how the Cloudlifter sounds with an increased noise floor. Couple things though, working in Radio/audio I can’t help but feel your faders should always be at 100% & using the gain to control your overall level to stop peaks. Also, the rodecaster gain shouldn’t need to be +35 with the cloudlifter, this allows you to have the faders at 100%. You’ve got a new subscriber in me, keep up the good work!

[@tombuck]

Thanks for the tips!

[@samfraulino]

Chris, what do you recommend for gain with a RCP and a Cloudlifter if I am using a Rode Podmic ? You say faders always should be full on the RCP as well?

[@MoonFrog]

I use the Klark teknik mic booster instead of cloudlifter with podmic and Scarlett solo, the Klark works great and is only 50 bucks just FYI for anyone looking for a cheaper than cloudlifter option

[@tombuck]

Yes! The CT-1 wasn't out yet when I made this video, but it's fantastic and really budget friendly.

[@MeltUp3]

I have the same setup but with a Fethead Germanium instead of a cloudlifter. I can keep my levels down at 7 to 10 and keep my slider at Unity (I think it's what that thicker line in the center is called). That really makes a huge difference!

[@KENNETHCARNIE]

I don't know where you teach, but can I sit in on a class?? 😂 I'm learning a lot on your channel. Thanks.

[@tombuck]

Haha, thank you! I taught public high school for 11 years until this year 👍

[@KENNETHCARNIE]

@@tombuck thank youbfor your service!!! Youre definitely one of the few teacher's that actually make an impact. I can tell becaise if your passion and candid humor. God bless you and your wife! PS PLEASE REVIEW THE SHURE SM-27!!! I got my mic, (shure super55) mic arm, (rode) and rodecaster because of your in depth info. Thjnking of getting a cloud lifter to go with them. Your channel has been the building material for my podcast. Thanks!

[@TMP10]

I use the rodecaster for virtual keynotes. I use the Shure SM58. I can't get passed the 6th line. Once I go above, I get a lot of noise (hissing). Having said that, the 6th line is plenty of volume for Zoom.

[@tombuck]

I'm curious what your gain level is set at. With my gain at +35, I didn't really get any hiss at any level with the SM58. And with the Cloudlifter it's even better. It's also worth noting that the Rodecaster sometimes has hiss in the headphones that isn't on the actual recording/output (I think the headphone preamps aren't as good as the mic ones).

[@TMP10]

@@tombuck Hey, I have not checked the gain on the rodecaster pro. I am new to this mixer but I will check. Having set that, the hissing comes from the headphones. Once I check my sound on zoom, I don't hear it. I'll double check because I have a feeling that the gain is set too low. #noob.

[@tombuck]

Good luck!

[@TMP10]

@@tombuck Thanks! Looks like the gain is set at 35. I have to play around with the settings some more.

[@Megapixelers]

Wau. I could not hear any difference. Both sound great. I respect everyone else’s comments, but i could not notice a difference.

[@mindflud8219]

I don't think it's necessarily supposed to make the microphone sound different but instead they give you more room to play with in the future if you need to

[@caradogamer]

acompanho seus vídeos e são muito bons, estou em duvida sobre comprar podmic ou Shure MV7, no momento utilizo o rode pro que tinha sobrando, meu foco é totalmente livestream

[@FatalBlow113]

You either weren't wearing headphones, or just have old ears.

[@FatalBlow113]

Ps. you are supposed to be listening to the SSSSSSSS in the background of the vocals, not the vocal itself.

[@StartToFinishPodcastingTV]

You probably didnt here it because you have to have headphones on. You will not hear difference just listening without heaphones.

[@Joelupis]

It’s also disappointing that the Rodecaster does not have dB and unity gain markers on the faders. Almost every pro mixer has these markings.

[@sodathief]

Feel like the quality went up on a cloud lifter. I could also hear the noise difference

[@MikeMena]

Ohh crap. Was not seeing the partly cloudy joke coming.i frowned. 🤨😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tombuck]

I was probably a little too proud of that one.

[@stevef]

Great review. I have an SM57 and got the gear your recommended. I had wondered if this would help with signal boost. I am sold.

[@tombuck]

The SM57 sounds great with the Cloudlifter. I've been using it a lot lately, just because it's fun.

[@bigj4223]

Good morning Tom, Thank you for explaining this. I had purchased a cloudlifter about a year ago and found that it didn't work. But after watching this video, I found out why. I didn't know that I had to turn on phantom power to activate or make it work. I subsequently bought a Fethead and turned on phantom power and got a signifigant difference. Thanks for this tip. One more thing, with the SM7B, can you use phantom power without the cloudlifter and will that in any way damage the SM7B? Thanks again for this video it was very helpful.

[@tombuck]

Hey! This is a great question. Phantom Power won't damage the SM7B, but it also won't boost the signal (basically it just won't do anything). Glad you got a set up that's working for you now!

[@waywardsage]

I'm getting a buzz in my podmic connected to a Mackie ProFX8. I have to max out the gain in order to get a decent signal.

[@exquisitewidget4227]

Might just be because those mixers tend to have slightly weaker preamps at higher gain levels. They also don’t boost the signal as much as the rodecaster or other high end pre’s can. I’m not sure about the buzz, but it’s fairly understandable to have to turn it up to just about the max on most consumer preamps for those kind of mic’s.

[@Macusercom]

Thanks for the great video! I just want to make something clear: the fader position determines the mix post-fade. The gain inside the Rodecaster's setting determine the input gain. So the fader position doesn't necessarily mean the mic's gain is ramped to the max in Røde's own videos. Also you can use the FETHead on the Rodecaster side instead of the mic's side. It is preferred to have it close to the mic but it shouldn't make a significant difference.

[@tombuck]

Very true about the FetHead, it can also just connect directly to the back of the Rodecaster. Not all boosters are built that way though and some will still need a small patch cable. As for the fader, definitely you're right that it doesn't necessarily mean they've maxed out the gain, but speaking form experience, many dynamic mics need to be cranked to get a loud enough output from the RCP without a booster (although that's probably not a super technical explanation 😁 ).

[@UnderMyPalm]

MicBoostCM1 all day. No matter what you use, keep it away from those pesky power sources/cables. They will boost those signals too!

[@tombuck]

Absolutely! I've learned that the hard way...

I needed this video month ago. I bought two podmics, but until I save enough money to buy rodecaster pro, I got myself affordable usb powered presonus audiobox. That did not work. Could not record anything. Fortunately, I returned mics and bought two at 2020. It is not dynamics sadly, but, that was the only option for my wallet at that moment. Signal weakness can be realy huge problem. Now I know.

[@tombuck]

The Audio Technica mics are outstanding though, so sounds like you’ve got a great setup 👍

[@Kynetguy]

I have found the hiss you here is related to the headphone preamp and I don’t find it in the recording. The headphone preamp on the Rodecaster is not on par with the quality of the rest of the board.

[@tombuck]

Yes, that’s 100% true! Great that it doesn’t show up in the output, but it can make you feel crazy when you’re setting things up and testing levels 😁

[@Enitechmedia]

Sure. There is great advantage in using cloudlifter for the PodMic.

[@papajoe7]

Where did you buy those black spongy Mike condenser that you put on the mic so that your voice isn't overlapped

[@tombuck]

They're the Rode WS2. Pretty inexpensive and available almost everywhere 👍