Do YOU Think ADC SUCKS? Get GOOD at MACRO! - ADC Guide

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How to MACRO as an ADC!
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ADC Guide Description:
In this guide we teach you how to properly play as an ADC in League of Legends in low elo. By constantly exposing you to low elo adc macro mistakes in this ADC guide, you'll begin to start improving at your decision making and will be able to farm way more in the mid to late game as an ADC, so you can carry your games and climb out of low elo.
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Пікірлер: 873
@arsenalgunners160391
@arsenalgunners160391 3 жыл бұрын
-Teammates dead after bad random fight- Team: ADC, why you farming when we had a fight? ADC: Push waves first Team: report ADC
@caiobahlis3560
@caiobahlis3560 3 жыл бұрын
(loses 2x4) OmG aDc sToP fArMInG PlS rEpoRt tRoLl Adc
@amjadtahir45
@amjadtahir45 3 жыл бұрын
Happens every single time. I think the worst thing about bad players is that they constantly pvp for the sake of just pvping, and don't understand this is not WoW or smth
@westenev
@westenev 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like pushing the wave would just tilt "team" mates, which is unfortunately something to consider in lower elo.
@caiobahlis3560
@caiobahlis3560 3 жыл бұрын
AtAt45 Every game is like, why the fuck are you fighting in the enemy jungle with the whole map black and two objectives up, and then when they obviously lose the fight I can feel the pings coming. Besides, (that happened yesterday btw) my support get tilted that i took cleanse instead of heal against thresh&ahse, then get hooked twice and proceeds to perma roam mid :)
@amjadtahir45
@amjadtahir45 3 жыл бұрын
@@caiobahlis3560 😂😂😂😂😂😂 "I can feel the pings coming" 😂😂😂😂😂 hahaha you got me dude
@ackki2498
@ackki2498 3 жыл бұрын
9:03 she simply was scared by the levitating dead tf
@iicynicy9473
@iicynicy9473 3 жыл бұрын
That is kinda scary tbh
@neohosanna2374
@neohosanna2374 3 жыл бұрын
XDDDD
@notThighs
@notThighs 3 жыл бұрын
i was actually shivering it was very scary
@TheUndeadShark
@TheUndeadShark 3 жыл бұрын
Even in death, tf does Magic tricks
@keysersoze1973
@keysersoze1973 Жыл бұрын
You made my day 😆
@TheUndeadShark
@TheUndeadShark 3 жыл бұрын
Me: pushing a wave Enemy 28/2/4 zed: It's free Real estate
@raff6501
@raff6501 2 жыл бұрын
Felt that
@giaaaacomo
@giaaaacomo 2 жыл бұрын
gotta have some vision and map awareness dood
@princerayn3054
@princerayn3054 2 жыл бұрын
literally just happened to my last game, my whole team was pressuring mid and this zed just keeps headhunting my sidelane farming ass it didn't help that i had a yuumi supp who stuck around wiith my teammates therefore not being able to ward up any side of the jungle
@giaaaacomo
@giaaaacomo 2 жыл бұрын
@@princerayn3054 probs you should have warded more by yourself, even if that means investing some gold onto that
@princerayn3054
@princerayn3054 2 жыл бұрын
@@giaaaacomo can adc's really afford to get spectral sickle? I mean, doesn't it take like 15 mins of sticking with your teammates to activate the ward passive? wouldn't that mean that's 15 mins where you can't get solo exp and gold?
@KTSamurai1
@KTSamurai1 3 жыл бұрын
6:07 "you avoid a shared lane like the plague" look buddy we clearly dont avoid plagues
@BlaxeFrost-X
@BlaxeFrost-X 3 жыл бұрын
X'D to people of the future, this is funny because of the virus of 2020
@XistenceX1
@XistenceX1 3 жыл бұрын
Blaxe Frost with the US response basically being “oh it won’t get me votes to stop this? Well haha it doesn’t exist! Let’s party!” Chances are Covid will be around for a very long time even when the vaccination is available. It’s sad but people are getting dumber.
@BlaxeFrost-X
@BlaxeFrost-X 3 жыл бұрын
@@XistenceX1 Rather than "it doesn't exist" is more along the lines of medics saying "it won't kill you if we treat it"... it's another influenza virus, as such, after all of this is done, it will be a simple cold. I already was sick with the covid, now i'm pissed off by the quarentine, it won't kill me or my family now... and it wasn't that bad 'cause i'm healthy overall... old people and unhealthy people could die because of another virus anytime (influenza vaccine every year) we just need to keep washing our hands and not going out while sick, it's as simple as that, it's no death plague
@NightFore
@NightFore 3 жыл бұрын
As an ADC I am: looking for objectives looking for a play ✔️PUSHING WAVES FIRST
@ronildoshi5998
@ronildoshi5998 3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah it’s your job to farm and carry
@004Kamui
@004Kamui 3 жыл бұрын
✔️A walking bag of gold for the other totally overpowered roles until I have 3-4 items, where we break even
@mint_659
@mint_659 3 жыл бұрын
@@004Kamui bro that couldn't be more accurate
@philipladouceur8523
@philipladouceur8523 3 жыл бұрын
As an adc main i push wave and look for objectif. Its not rare that before 30 min i am lvl 18 with one item left before full build. While everyone is still lvl 15-16. Sometime i only have 1 or 2 kill.
@rishijoshi7989
@rishijoshi7989 3 жыл бұрын
004Kamui u dont need to have 3-4 items to be useful. I swear ADC mains are so stupid. I’ve literally heard people unironically say “ADC weak role” after they lose a 1 v 1 to a 5-0 Jax.
@GGE
@GGE 2 жыл бұрын
Skill Capped: What lane should the Ashe go? Me: Bottom. Skill Capped: The correct answer is mid. *slams keyboard*
@xkaigox2645
@xkaigox2645 2 жыл бұрын
this is me with every Skill Capped video.
@rhinotrading9758
@rhinotrading9758 2 жыл бұрын
Gregor playing lol. My life is complete now.
@Anolaana
@Anolaana 2 жыл бұрын
You and me: _anything_ Skill Capped: The answer is clearly ADC mid.
@skillcapped
@skillcapped 3 жыл бұрын
*Yes yes, Doublelift clip wasn't from last week, this was released on our site a little while ago =)
@RRedefined
@RRedefined 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE SONG NAME IN THE BEGINNING PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
@sakutaro3musik486
@sakutaro3musik486 3 жыл бұрын
I also want to farm most of the time, but should I let my team die if they engage bad or should I try to help them, that is my biggest question every game
@Bollter_Slideston
@Bollter_Slideston 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make your next guide that revolves around diamond players?
@GORK3411
@GORK3411 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakutaro3musik486 if u know your team will loose don't come
@Susaeta879
@Susaeta879 3 жыл бұрын
@@GORK3411 most people get mad xd
@ezekielmigueldatuin9014
@ezekielmigueldatuin9014 3 жыл бұрын
Most of my games as an ADC Scenario #1: I’m doing good up to midgame and I’m 4/0/2 when a 0/3/2 ap champ randomly one shots me. Scenario #2: It’s late game and the enemy team has inted except for their tank illaoi or scaled up Chogath they just follow around everywhere and I do no damage to them and we lose the game.
@ZigZag557
@ZigZag557 3 жыл бұрын
7 months later, this is still the norm, except its now hyper fed akalis and zeds instead of shut down normal mids. 😂
@aaronjulius9148
@aaronjulius9148 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes. I love getting one shot by an offscreen lux ult
@alandang417
@alandang417 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm I picked "Running down mid" every time
@BlaxeFrost-X
@BlaxeFrost-X 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, so you play ARAM, i see
@mercibeaucoup4591
@mercibeaucoup4591 3 жыл бұрын
we all do, because otherwise out teammates would flame us because we arent grouping or defending mid u know?
@Gardstyle35
@Gardstyle35 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercibeaucoup4591 mute buttons are great
@ItsNotFate
@ItsNotFate 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercibeaucoup4591 listen to low Elo players Stay in low Elo. Or chad it up and farm like crazy. And still lose because your team tilts so hard because you’re doing the right thing that they all start inting and going afk.
@wisp6826
@wisp6826 3 жыл бұрын
Classic silver: As ADC you productively farm as there is no need to fight. No objectives are coming. There is plenty of gold to get. Your team: I guess it's time to fight on mid. What else can we do?
@josefin7213
@josefin7213 2 жыл бұрын
or that one player who runs down first, even tho there's still one person in base
@VVopal
@VVopal 2 жыл бұрын
Play champs that can influence the fight from afar? Ashe ult, draven ult, ez ult so while you farm you're giving a tiny bit of agency in the team fight
@JakandDexsters
@JakandDexsters Жыл бұрын
@@VVopal lmao having a ezreals in your team means you lose
@VVopal
@VVopal Жыл бұрын
@@JakandDexsters Not really, if you're a good ezreal he has one of the highest ADC dps outputs
@JakandDexsters
@JakandDexsters Жыл бұрын
@@VVopal out of 10 games my ezreal lost me 8 games in a row.
@uzunaruMelonness
@uzunaruMelonness 3 жыл бұрын
11:03 The Enemy Ashe pushes the wave, first. Definitely, she understands the Macro.
@marianivanov5730
@marianivanov5730 3 жыл бұрын
Thats because she has team which can fight without her.if she was on the loosing side she would get blamed by her team for pushing the wave and not participating in the team fight
@Gardstyle35
@Gardstyle35 3 жыл бұрын
@@marianivanov5730 i would argue that some players focus too much on farm, f.e. when realy improtant stuff is happening 4th dragon, baron etc
@KevinBGB
@KevinBGB 3 жыл бұрын
Notification be like: do you think adc sucks? Get GOOD
@RP-zl5ix
@RP-zl5ix 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to add some important things to the video that have been oversimplefied The main problem with this video is that it doesnt teach you the exceptions to the rule (=maximising your income through proper side lane management) The decision making whether it's worth helping or farming is the key factor . You never always push and you never always group. Every case is unique . Generally speaking one of the many things you need to consider are your powerspikes . If you are a Lucian , you will do more grouping during your powerspikes and more farming when you havent reached them ( Side laning forces enemy to match your split push ). You need to understand who is more worth in a team fight. If you are 0/5 Lucian and you force the 10 /0 jinx ( with IE runaan Shiv ) on the side lane, it is macrowise the correct choice since she can't spread her lead. Otherwise if you are fed , you wanna group alot and help your teammates get fed ( strong teammates means less pressure for the adc during game deciding teamfights, No one will pay attention to your 10/0 Ashe if there is a 5/0 Sylas murdering everyone). Being 10 cs/min and perfect kda at the end of the game means nothing if the rest of your team pays for it and cant help in Team fights when 3 People flash for you ofc You shouldnt neglect maximising your income if you are grouping while being fed . But do it near your teams and about to be contested objectives. For example by taking the sidelane near the upcoming objective or your Jungler's camp If you go side lane , always be cautious about upcoming objectives , Vision contest ( For baron ) as well as assasins with strong and fast target access. Another point : Side laning is even more important if enemy team has strong team fighting Champs like Veigar yuumi etc. Sometimes it is even worth to push a sidewaves 20 sec before drake and getting multiple towers for a drake.
@mattoe123
@mattoe123 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned vision once, when xayah over extended. Now watch Everytime the adc steps up to the wave, the enemy disappears. So push wave and die is all i saw in the big picture
@moonlit8846
@moonlit8846 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I overextend to push the next wave and three people randomly appear to kill me
@TranaiViet-
@TranaiViet- 3 жыл бұрын
Nah i nerver push wave to tower when i losing since i know im a squishy target and should nerver go alone near enermy or wave near tower, plus now mostly it just force out play to come back to the game so team fight then is much more important since enermy team gonna outfarm me since their have the lead, and even in high elo they not goona care bout wave clear if a big fight happen
@indestruct1bl3
@indestruct1bl3 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonlit8846 Never push past the midpoint between any two towers (unless both towers are yours and are still standing) if you don't have vision.
@adeadcrole1563
@adeadcrole1563 3 жыл бұрын
Me: "Wow this is really helpful, I know something was missing I'm ready to play some league" 15 mins later, "Gets 1v1ed by Nautilus support with only tank items". "Oh..."
@shacolin6546
@shacolin6546 3 жыл бұрын
> Plays champion weak to cc > Complains that you're losing a duel against a champion loaded with cc xD
@adeadcrole1563
@adeadcrole1563 3 жыл бұрын
@@shacolin6546 > Doesn't realize that it's just a joke > Something something idk
@onurucar2995
@onurucar2995 3 жыл бұрын
Shacolin Yeah because a nautilus has enough base damage to burst an adc
@Halfort57
@Halfort57 3 жыл бұрын
@@shacolin6546 A Yone or a Katarina would have shredded that same Nautilus in less than half a second.
@Dragonoid269
@Dragonoid269 3 жыл бұрын
@@Halfort57 Sure, a spellbased AoE damage assassin whose ultimate can be stopped by cc and has to be close to do damage will be able to blow up a full tank Nautulus in less than half a second... Are we talking about a nautilus at 10% hp or a 20/0 katarina here?
@nectarnut9262
@nectarnut9262 3 жыл бұрын
I love how this video wasn’t just “Mid elo ADC tips” but you’re forcing us to think about WHY the mistakes are wrong. Feels more like being taught something, rather than just git gud.
@OverlordHD36
@OverlordHD36 3 жыл бұрын
As an adc, I'm doing all that, the problem being, my enemies too, so even though I'm extremely rarely losing lane, and always keep income flowing, that's still just being solo in pair with my enemies and still having to 1v5 all the time, wich is not realy doable. there still is too many ppl in low elo that sure doesn't want to lose the game, but doesn't want to win either, that's what elo hell is about.
@Scoltren
@Scoltren 3 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow adc main here, you CAN carry with ADCs but it depends on how early some adcs get their powerspikes. Example: Vayne can start to do massive damage after just one mythic item while Lucian is gonna need Essence Reaver AND a mythic item. Samira, Tristana, Kog'maw, all of these and alike can cause mental disturbance for the enemy team just by getting a few kills. If you already play them and still can't win, that's entirely on you. I had a feeding Master Yi mid that ran it down my botlane because I typed "Yi stop dying". I won the game 18/0.
@004Kamui
@004Kamui 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly, what I was looking for in an ADC guide (because other roles just profit just as much from items until mid-late game), but would be willing to see more of your ADC guides
@closteen4184
@closteen4184 3 жыл бұрын
7:04 Doesnt matter if you have pushed or not Low elo if enemy sees even 1 solo pushing a lil bit they gang up to kill him in sidelanes
@buddermasteru5074
@buddermasteru5074 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the point is even if they do that they are losing farm
@mint_659
@mint_659 3 жыл бұрын
True. If your team is smart tho they'll look to punish by taking towers or objectives while you get 5 man dove
@onurucar2995
@onurucar2995 3 жыл бұрын
you can recall the instant you cant see like 3 enemy team members or a big threat like a fed zed. it surely takes more time than 8 seconds to rotate to a sidelane. But its true that they will do that and it can be frustrating sometimes if your team doesnt do anything while the enemy team is chasing you
@closteen4184
@closteen4184 3 жыл бұрын
@@mint_659 sad thing is thath they dont
@CitriReg
@CitriReg 3 жыл бұрын
tell team to push opposite tower or recall ez
@blairwest5962
@blairwest5962 3 жыл бұрын
Really, really good video! I loved it. It honestly sheds much light to my own gameplay, and I will be implementing this
@vincedionisio2342
@vincedionisio2342 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. I wish a lot more of the guide videos have this decision making quiz style.
@d00by14
@d00by14 3 жыл бұрын
Been following a lot of your guides recently and hit diamond last season. This video and your videos regarding early lane phase catapulted my game to the next level. Top stuff.
@Chris4Ibra
@Chris4Ibra 3 жыл бұрын
Love your work, I enjoy these decision making moments so much!
@DanteCrowlley
@DanteCrowlley 3 жыл бұрын
*I'm low elo but I feel like I'm playing against G2, suddenly there are 4 ppl bot trying to kill me, at level 2, 4 people at bot in level 2*
@joaovictorpeixoto1208
@joaovictorpeixoto1208 3 жыл бұрын
Essa é a g2
@OneZenDarius
@OneZenDarius 3 жыл бұрын
You are actually doing the team a favor, it took 4 enemy Champs to rush you down and leave their lane defenseless. Not 9nly are they gonna be weaker returning, your team can keep,them busy while you catch back up. Difficult, yes, but when the teamfights happen, the steamroll begins.
@kaaphkaa
@kaaphkaa 3 жыл бұрын
this channel is a Godsend. my league mates and i are hyped to climb for s11 and the "what would you" segments really helps me understand the game more.
@randoomingnope7574
@randoomingnope7574 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is exactly the video i needed. TY
@snaggiz
@snaggiz 3 жыл бұрын
This was genuinely helpful unlike some other guides I’ve seen. I know my macro sucks and this was a great pointer!
@ahboji
@ahboji 3 жыл бұрын
I have lost so many games turning a wave around as ADC while my 4 teammates start a 4 v 5 before I get back, they all die and it's game over. I even type, "turning wave around don't fight." Then they all die engaging away from tower.
@Bbart77
@Bbart77 3 жыл бұрын
eeeexactly, same shit. Hate this videos because they don't took into consideration that other players on your team don't watch them. They fight champions 4 lvls ahead of them, they have 0 10 at 10 min, they start fights 2v5 etc. You just can't "just farm" because you just lose. I have a 50% win rate on almost every adc just because every other game i get at least 1 winning lane. If I have just one lane that doesn't feed, engages for no reasons and realizes what you are doing i win... every other it's every lane losing :D ello hell :D
@HieuLe-co7hg
@HieuLe-co7hg 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this channel for 2 years. Thanks for all your guidance. My highest rank is Plat3 and I'm getting better this season.
@trungkiennguyenhuu2072
@trungkiennguyenhuu2072 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@btvitek1671
@btvitek1671 3 жыл бұрын
Comparison with doublelift was so fkin bad. Its pro play, teams playing around the adc. Where did you see someone peeling the adc in lower elo? You got only theoretical knowledge, but not practical. What is the reason to get waves, when your team keeps permanently fighting without you? Do you really think they will let the adc take the farm on side lane?
@roronoazoro-tg5nr
@roronoazoro-tg5nr 3 жыл бұрын
exactly they always fighting in low elo and if the adc goes to farm the team loses the fight
@clemensschomburg8693
@clemensschomburg8693 3 жыл бұрын
On one hand yes. Pro play is a completely different game. Especially the adc role, I see that every clash game, which isn't even close to pro play, but still way more competitive. But on the other hand, high elo players constantly get 10 cs +. If I get 7 cs a game, I am satisfied. But these players get 3 cs more by average than me. You don't just get that by "farming better". They catch waves more efficient, they are always looking to generate gold. This is what this video is about: you are adc. You don't don't make plays. Your team makes plays. You can only follow (only very few adc can actually engage). You try to force the enemy into making mistakes by managing waves. Always look to generate gold,so you can fulfill your role.
@Darkcelestrian
@Darkcelestrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocoro174 I mean if you're dogshit at adc, then you're just dogshit at adc. Don't take it out on a yt channel
@apashehab5026
@apashehab5026 3 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean but if you have 10 cs per minute no way you’re gonna lose.
@kaminari1927
@kaminari1927 3 жыл бұрын
This video was actually pretty great bc I'm trying to expand my roles a little more. I don't think I totally understood the importance of cs for ADCs until now. Thanks.
@juanazcona5742
@juanazcona5742 3 жыл бұрын
Get gold or become a paper weight 😂, it's kinda hard when you have bloodthirsty teammates willing to die for the lols and blame you for it.
@JatanPassi
@JatanPassi 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, would really love to see some more of ADC macro
@mooing90
@mooing90 3 жыл бұрын
wouldn't you say pro league of legends and solo q are completely different games?
@tegansumei9772
@tegansumei9772 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Gardstyle35
@Gardstyle35 3 жыл бұрын
a pro can play the same way in solo q in any elo and win hard. even if he doesnt play and just tells someone what to do that persons mechanics not beeing any better but the knowledge and decisions beeing better, that person will win significantly more often than before. so i wouldnt say its completly different
@djjazzyjeff1232
@djjazzyjeff1232 3 жыл бұрын
I did this the past few days in all my games and good lord, this has been the single most helpful thing I've seen for League maybe ever.
@lampardiphosphorous856
@lampardiphosphorous856 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me how could she get bot wave and krugs at 4:00, there is no way she had time for that
@smurfening2904
@smurfening2904 3 жыл бұрын
True lol she'd get collapsed on. This guide is one of the worst and I'm a skillcapped fan.
@0Bonaparte
@0Bonaparte 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the problem with the examples here are really painfully clear why they didn’t push waves first. All but one person MIA and no wards to protect pushing past that first point.
@lexrupus4798
@lexrupus4798 3 жыл бұрын
She would've been able to actually. You just underestimate Ashe's waveclear. I'm a mid player but the fact I do this habit better than any adc main (esp when having to play the role) is hilarious and evident that the players just suck at it.
@Keyosu
@Keyosu 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for this. Ashe just reaches drag pit but could have pushed bot wave AND gotten krugs?? Is Ashe invisible and fast as hecarim? Im a bit wary of these guides now...
@kervincarlos8403
@kervincarlos8403 3 жыл бұрын
Me:*push bot because enemy is grouping mid* My team:*feeds* *blame me*
@mercibeaucoup4591
@mercibeaucoup4591 3 жыл бұрын
daily struggle of an adc, feel u bro
@KTSamurai1
@KTSamurai1 3 жыл бұрын
did you think that you were going to play this team game with your team? WRONG get back to lane it's still PvE o'clock
@michaandrzejsigismundfreih7900
@michaandrzejsigismundfreih7900 3 жыл бұрын
me on Yorick every time with 1 champion and 8 turret kills
@confusedcrayons5481
@confusedcrayons5481 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@igorrodolphoms
@igorrodolphoms 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I wanted to know about my Gameplay... Really good video
@xitaris5981
@xitaris5981 3 жыл бұрын
3:52 You say to go and farm bot lane and then krugs, but the whole enemy team shows pathing to dragon and you mentioned that she has 2 teammates dead. Isn't it crazy overextending to path bot here? Even if she B lined it, she wouldn't be there fast enough
@dimitarboyanov1619
@dimitarboyanov1619 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is crazy. They would have all gone bot and killed her, she wouldn't even have time to recall.
@wryguy
@wryguy 2 жыл бұрын
100%. Looks like she was pathing bot, but by the time she passed her T2, her team was already in retreat with the wave pushed out past tri-bush. If she goes for that she's just a tasty snack for Kayne. To be fair, she stood in fountain for at least 10 seconds, so if she had acted immediately she probably could have at least caught a wave or two. Krugs would've been suicide though.
@necrofanatica
@necrofanatica 2 жыл бұрын
@@wryguy Not with vision
@wryguy
@wryguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@necrofanatica but she didn't have vision
@necrofanatica
@necrofanatica 2 жыл бұрын
@@wryguy not the point, just meant to say that with vision it’s not really a bad play
@SwiftWinz
@SwiftWinz 3 жыл бұрын
this video finally talked me into visiting the site. thanks
@Drialux
@Drialux 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@madafaka3587
@madafaka3587 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, this is a very good rule to follow, but sometimes your teammates have other plans, like invading enemy jungle or diving randomly without considering lane prio nor wave status.
@aubade_1
@aubade_1 3 жыл бұрын
The guide is great and I definitely learned a lot about ADC Macro, although I don't think this is why adc feels weak right now; I'd argue it has more to do with less than half of the ADC roster feeling all that worth playing and other roles' meta champs having inflated stats, but this guide will definitely help me win more regardless^^
@Theevilrhino
@Theevilrhino 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have the same issue. The tips are good for sure, but the way it’s presented is disingenuous. Like saying” look at this pro player” while saying adc “feels” bad because 99.9% of players don’t know how to play the role (while ignoring that the same is true for every other role) is just idiotic. There are definitely games where an ADC will pop off or situations where they shine, but overall even high tier players openly agree the role is comparatively weaker in far too many situations.
@kevin15535
@kevin15535 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling really proud of myself when I couldnt answer these type of maceo questions 2 months ago but now I can without fail :D
@philipjr.pavich2905
@philipjr.pavich2905 3 жыл бұрын
I think this was a very good video. I was an adc main who was hardstuck Silver 2 for most of the season. I switched to mid and am now up to Silver 1 (while that might not seem like a lot, I was hardstuck for a LONG time in S2/S3) after only a week of switching the roles. I think my problem with ADC is that it doesn't offer the same level of influence as mid or jg or even support in the early stages of the game that can really get the game going in your favor. An early lead in bot doesn't mean anything, as the video suggests, whereas an early lead in any of the other roles mentioned is seemingly more game-changing. That said, this video makes me cautiously optimistic about playing adc again. Jhin is my favorite champ and I'd love to get a chance to play him more effectively in ranked, but I still don't think that adc is as strong as other roles (keep in mind that assassins are hardly picked up in current pro play, making adc seem stronger than it is).
@bendystrawz2832
@bendystrawz2832 3 жыл бұрын
Redundance is the most effective form of teaching. I like the lower elo coverage so I can get more examples of the same stuff to train the brain better. It's actually really helpful. "...And you better know what she did wrong." LMAO, one of the few times I answered correctly in these videos xD
@FerreroRopher
@FerreroRopher 3 жыл бұрын
very useful! thanks for the adc content :D
@giangphan8282
@giangphan8282 3 жыл бұрын
A really good guide but in additional can you cover the problem how to defend the tower and how to trade tower and how important to spot out enemy missing or running towards adc (especially assassins)
@iNonEntity
@iNonEntity 3 жыл бұрын
What about when your whole team is powerfarming and every lane is constantly pushed. Where do you go when no safe farm is available and the enemy team is missing?
@user-jk4hz5ke2j
@user-jk4hz5ke2j 3 жыл бұрын
jungle camps i guess
@xander9460
@xander9460 3 жыл бұрын
There will be scenarios where you can't do anything for a bit. Just wait for the next opportunity and drop a ward meanwhile. Can't do A? Do B. Can't do B? Do C. ect. Don't forget the 20/40/40 rule. Edit: Or think of it like this: Focusing on what you can't do is useless. Find what you "can" do. Even if that's as small as warding somewhere safe. It's something.
@mertaypar8891
@mertaypar8891 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that is the classic problem in plat diamond where junglers also pushes lanes. At that instance there is not much you can do except taking jungle if that is not going to cost much. But in general you should be the one directing the game and leave them the correct place to take. This channel had a video about that sort of situations as well,but I can't seem to remember the title
@rampageblizzard
@rampageblizzard 3 жыл бұрын
Ward objectives, group up with your team for a fight where you can catch the enemy off guard with a numbers advantage or easily take a dragon or something
@TetGodOfGames
@TetGodOfGames 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I wanted an adc guide so much thank you so much.
@biebs7691
@biebs7691 3 жыл бұрын
It helped me reach challenger. Thanks
@izul4223
@izul4223 3 жыл бұрын
is it on me or is this good to know for each and every role as gold always helped and fur shure with the pushing power and turret destruction power of a top laner?
@reptile1944
@reptile1944 3 жыл бұрын
I know that everybody here loves this channel, but I didn't yet saw a comment saying anything about the speaker. And he undoubtedly does here a wonderful job.
@FrostyInEU
@FrostyInEU 3 жыл бұрын
The ashe play in the start there with the rift herald was actually the best she could do (Secure herald Push wave reset). If she would have taken the herald next who knows if enemies could have came to kill her with the half hp she was on.
@princerayn3054
@princerayn3054 2 жыл бұрын
adc's shouldn't be soloing obj's to begin with, if they make a beeline for the rh without pushing the wave you shoved, then they would be several exp behind your team and depending on how behind they are or ahead you are, you'll most probably be able to contest the objective with your teammates and get a kill or two
@hodrigos1276
@hodrigos1276 3 жыл бұрын
This really opened my mind to possibilities
@Amalasian
@Amalasian 3 жыл бұрын
so the way i can grasp this the best is: by having the wave pushed into a tower you have the most options. you could gfo someplace else you cvan take jungle camps on either side. you can push tower. as well lanes are a danger point. they will be giving info to the other team of peoples location because you can be seen by the minions your killing. so if say you go rocks into lane that is equal to no vision into vision ending the sequence in vision. but lane into rocks would be vision into no vision leaving you vanished and harder to target. you must use this same idea on the enemies. where you want to watch where its vision into no vision or the other way around. the first is often danger to you or others on your team or objectives. wherer the other shows intent on where they are in vision. this alows you to from pushing the wave corectly to deside if you will either copy them or not. example 4 v5 mid lane your at tower. you can see your safe and can take tower. but if that 4v5 becomes a 4v3 or 4v2 or what ever you know that you now have to deside if you will copy them and go from vision to no vision or if say you see them almost die and will b not come for you you can keep going or go for kills or what ever you want because the vision is the lowest when their minions are under their tower.
@mihaizmeu1239
@mihaizmeu1239 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the macro, this can help me a lot and in the jungle role
@zerefdragneel9451
@zerefdragneel9451 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, me, who sometimes gets filled adc, winning 50/50 lane and afterwards always going on a solo lane to shove and getting killed by the zed everytime xD
@absenteechild8542
@absenteechild8542 2 жыл бұрын
In the first example, isn't going bot the correct answer? The only neutral objective is topside so you create space, and the wave was even larger. What am I missing?
@grazvydaszidonis7929
@grazvydaszidonis7929 Жыл бұрын
Awesome giude. Every Time i picked the mistake and you instantly called it
@LCH415
@LCH415 3 жыл бұрын
I think its good you are givinv the adc the mindset to push waves first, but i think it’s also a good idea to utilize blue trinkets, defensive jungle wards from supp, and freeze thin wave bounce the make sure you don’t get put in a scary situation.
@goazer2
@goazer2 3 жыл бұрын
I had an adc in a silver game that understood macro and what they needed to hit when. It felt like having a tactical nuke.
@Javy_Chand
@Javy_Chand 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually so helpful, really, I, on some situations, did the exact same mistakes that the shown players did. Amazing video, as an ADC main, Im glad I´ve seen this UwU
@dbjungle
@dbjungle 3 жыл бұрын
It won't help, I've been playing like this for 2 years. ADC is legit a terrible role atm. This says if you play like a challenger player you can climb. The problem is pushing waves isn't the only thing separating normies from challenger. If you watch pro, the role still sucks.
@myrusEW
@myrusEW 3 жыл бұрын
I needed to see this. This is how I try to play and get flamed for it, so I try to be more of a "team player". I'm glad to know I'm right, and now I can be more obstinate in my good decisions.
@razeik5.088
@razeik5.088 3 жыл бұрын
Is ot worth for me to kill the 1 wave near krugs than take krugs cause my jnl is near bot and I want the krugs so I take the krugs before continuing cause I know if I dont do it he will take them?
@entithicc1133
@entithicc1133 2 жыл бұрын
i have a question if anyone is still there and if you respond to comments: if i am super fed (5 items at 21:00) and the next wave will be meet in around 10s, can i take krugs before pushing then? I did that before pushing and didnt lose any cs but just want to know if its good if i know i can clear the camp fast.
@danimajer3029
@danimajer3029 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, can you do support macro video?
@wryguy
@wryguy 2 жыл бұрын
Could you add arrows to the minimap icons indicating the direction champs are heading? At 5:54, you ask where Trist should go. Yasuo shows at dragon pit, but I have no idea if he's heading up to mid or down to bot. The "correct" answer is to go mid because Yas is headed bot, but I can't tell that from the freezeframe.
@Skykbo11
@Skykbo11 2 жыл бұрын
So, I haven seen guides a few years back where it said to create a slow push before heading to play on the other side of the map so one enemy is not able to join the fight. I have Heard- in your videos so far only to not slow push. Is there a situation where you would recommend slowpushing?
@adrienlmps3744
@adrienlmps3744 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, like push wave first or don’t share xp ... But even if the guys in the replays were aware of those, i don’t see a world were they win/carry either
@bulletr614
@bulletr614 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question on the first situation , why pushing top wave instead of pushing bot wave is there any difference ? I would be glad if someone answers my question
@Nokura18
@Nokura18 3 жыл бұрын
Great guides but the only problem i have is that everytime i try to push lane cause i really want to farm, im always getting execute by an assassin, even when im at 1st wave at tier 2 tower. And my blue ward wont make enough vision to protect me of that.
@zakonelli9897
@zakonelli9897 3 жыл бұрын
If there is a big enemy wave stacked killing your waves is it still right to push the wave rather than doing nearby jungle camps first? Surely in this instance its okay to do the krugs first as its denying the enemy team your minions? Lmk if i am wrong i want help lol
@JamesBloomfield93
@JamesBloomfield93 3 жыл бұрын
"It's really easy, look at doublelift being the highest level in the game.... when the enemy team allowed Cait through the bans and then didn't draft any assassins that could potentially challenge a cait..."
@alexanderbanman9288
@alexanderbanman9288 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Cait is OP. Most other adc's are weak af.
@medg0798
@medg0798 3 жыл бұрын
Cait has the ultimate kit tbh, she has everything, cc, more cc and a way to escape if needed to, a mega ranged ult that is a point and click, and don't get me started on the dmg on that q
@barnykirashi
@barnykirashi 3 жыл бұрын
@@medg0798 She has 650 Range. Aphelios has the same range (650) with Calibrum. Kog'maw has 710 at level 9 if he uses W. Trist outranges her at level 14(I don't know, i don't play tristana) Ashe has 600 range, wich is good. Senna has 600, but she's a support (I disagree with Senna ADC, don't even start "Senna can also be played as an ADC"), but she can range her at 40 stacks(around 10-15 minutes), but as her early stack gathering is so crucial, I don't pick Senna against cait. But wait, here's more: If she uses E(Or you walk into her trap) her range on you is 1300. Her strongest counter-matchup is an Agressive Senna+Lucian combo. Once they hit level 2, Senna can W cait, and Lucain can instantly close the gap with his E, proc PtA, Q, and Senna can dish more damage with AutoQ. Cait has a hard time disengageing from them, as Lucian's Dash has good range, she can't really just E away. Also, Senna can outheal the poke of Cait.
@Deimos620
@Deimos620 3 жыл бұрын
Um.... what about being full build Jhin and doing 250 on a fourth shot against a mordekaiser with no defensive items but a zhonyas? I built full crit cuz i had to run away a ton but should I just build a bit of lethality anyway and sacrifice items with a bunch of attack speed?
@starsona4699
@starsona4699 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to follow this. It makes my games longer, I guess but I don't know if it has actually increased my chances of winning at all.
@kristophertadlock779
@kristophertadlock779 3 жыл бұрын
The message I get from skill capped over and over again is always be solo farming in the mid game. I have a hard time putting this advice to use for a couple of reasons. First, my teammates and the enemy team are fighting all the time, so instead of the enemy lanes looking to farm like I am they are always roaming together looking for picks. Every time a push a wave solo I risk getting three man dived out of nowhere. The second is that the enemy is fighting all the time, so the bit of CS and XP I get from farming waves doesn't matter so much if the enemy carries are getting more ahead by just killing my teammates. How do i carry the game if I don't put myself really far ahead in gold? The third problem I have is that the enemy is fighting all the time, and if I am farming a wave on the other side of the map I can participate in the fight or influence how the game will snowball. The frustration I feel as ADC is that I don't have options. When do I completely take the game into my hands and 1v9 like you would if you are a fed solo laner? Please make a video on when I shouldn't be farming, so I have the confidence to collect CS when I know it's not time to fight. Thank you.
@blairwest5962
@blairwest5962 3 жыл бұрын
k, so ima try to help with the info that I have ascertained over the years(and these last two seasons more importantly). You have to learn how to win lane in order to set yourself up for a better transition. I will agree that adcs are the weaker role until you hit 3 items(for most), so winning lane is paramount. I suggest playing hyper aggressive until you learn the limits of the champions(hopefully no more than 3) that you main. Then you will know what you can and can not do on those champions. Practice this until you are able to move onto other concepts. However, you want to always try to know where the jungler is. Push hard, and ping your support to help you get a deep ward when you see him in another lane(wards last 3 mins). This video guide is all about midgame(usually when you are ahead and want to stay that way and close out games). Apply all those concepts here. When you are behind, spam ping your team to not fight and try to hit your next item power spike. Since it's low elo, ofc your team will want to try and fight every chance that they get, so farming quickly and effectively is important here. When you are ahead, it is your job to do damage AND NOT DIE. The not dying part is paramount as you are literally a walking bag of gold looking to help someone get back into the game. When you are behind, you will literally have to "Out-Mechanics" the other team or hope that you can stall til 3 to 4 items. There is no way around that. If you can not do that while farming effectively, you wont climb and you will always feel that your team is holding you back. TL;DR if you are ahead by midgame, follow this video guide. If you are behind, spam ping your teamates, try to get to your nearest power spike, and "out-mechanics" the enemy team. Mute your team if you have too. I been there, and I still am practicing it.
@igurkii4497
@igurkii4497 3 жыл бұрын
4:34 how is mid solo exp ? if he runs mid he will share to corki and morgana so he gets less than at top not ? ??
@darylcheung2027
@darylcheung2027 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 About Ashe taking herald before pushing waves. I wonder if I should slow push that wave and hard push the next. That way, the wave is closer to our side of the map, and I can go take wtever camps that are up later. Any thoughts?
@Avatar_Belial
@Avatar_Belial 3 жыл бұрын
Since drake is about to spawn at 21 minutes she should have also taken the slightly longer route top warded around blue and slow pushed then crashed till she either sees enemys coming or the drake is about to spawn in a minute.
@bo7meed340
@bo7meed340 3 жыл бұрын
At 3:00 why push top not bot both turrets are down and we've wave is at the same place so why not bot? How can I choose there? It can't be cuz of herald cuz already team won the fight and enemy is outnumbered so why top?
@KosstAmojan
@KosstAmojan 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's the hippocampus that controls memory access. The amygdala governs your fight/flight response and is one of the main culprits in causing tilt.
@thomasdr08
@thomasdr08 3 жыл бұрын
I really need this. I’ve found myself (support) raging at passive ADCs getting us clapped within the first 10 minutes.
@xitaris5981
@xitaris5981 3 жыл бұрын
Push Lanes First, right? Are there any special considerations with painfully slow pushing ADCs like Vayne? (specifically, painfully slow when a little behind)
@youtubecommentsguy9805
@youtubecommentsguy9805 3 жыл бұрын
no, if you cant carry fights you gotta get them $$
@InkWavve
@InkWavve 3 жыл бұрын
Q: What is this Xayah doing wrong? A: His ID is "Thiccc Thighs"
@misteriousgamers9290
@misteriousgamers9290 3 жыл бұрын
or maybe her or maybe none
@notThighs
@notThighs 3 жыл бұрын
OKAY HER ID IS THICCC THIGHS AND THIS IS HURTFUL
@kutokutosan7637
@kutokutosan7637 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the default keybind for the gold income tab? (In replays)
@theangeldestroyeur1979
@theangeldestroyeur1979 3 жыл бұрын
Its o i think
@Twitch-oq3ir
@Twitch-oq3ir 3 жыл бұрын
but the big problem is i always get flamed for pushing waves first im d3-d2 btw or also get spampinged when im vayne lvl 5 under tower with a huge wave and dont rotate lol
@closteen4184
@closteen4184 3 жыл бұрын
4:46 Going mid would be the same bcoz in plat and lower mid and top dont change lanes Mid will almost always go mid again mid game after laning phase
@buddermasteru5074
@buddermasteru5074 3 жыл бұрын
That’s false half the time they swap and he said if not just go back bot
@Ultimahaxorpanda2131
@Ultimahaxorpanda2131 3 жыл бұрын
@@buddermasteru5074 That's not false, me thinks, I should know I'm a low gold and I've only had one singular game where our mid laner decided to swap with bot lane.
@khoshiumi
@khoshiumi 3 жыл бұрын
How many minions does it take to grant the same kill gold amount?
@sheepshoe
@sheepshoe 3 жыл бұрын
How was Ashe supposed to push bot on the second decision? That would be just free gold for the enemy since they were scattered after the fight and the enemy already was in blue bot jungle?
@xitaris5981
@xitaris5981 3 жыл бұрын
2:21 can we talk about how the mega fed ashe is doing 29 dmg per auto to herald? XD
@Avatar_Belial
@Avatar_Belial 3 жыл бұрын
We sure can, its a spectator mode bug that only shows the first tick of her Q.
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 3 жыл бұрын
Alirght I have to agree and say this is an amazing guid but the reason why I think ADC sucks is that you get 4 man dived by 10 minutes. Also supposedly why so many people dislike the current state of ADC is probably because all you do is farm for 30 minutes straight to then still have to have a support near you to carry teamfights. Comparing this to a darius who could 1v5 teamfights makes it understadable why. Not to say this video was bad in any way, in fact this concept can be applied to mid and top lane as well. I just wanna throw my 2 cents in here
@lifeasdev7480
@lifeasdev7480 3 жыл бұрын
Although I agree with everything you say, it does not show until after diamond 2
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 3 жыл бұрын
@@lifeasdev7480 wdym exactly? and kewl that we agree on something c:
@lifeasdev7480
@lifeasdev7480 3 жыл бұрын
@@deejayf69 wdym?
@Ryucopasetic
@Ryucopasetic 3 жыл бұрын
@@lifeasdev7480 what do you mean
@unfairme8901
@unfairme8901 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryucopasetic What?
@matheusneves4288
@matheusneves4288 3 жыл бұрын
At 6:00, isn't correct Tristana and Braum to go to the top lane?
@archmagedraco
@archmagedraco 3 жыл бұрын
Hello skill capped thq for the tips but one thing this video doesn't cover is situations in which enemy top/mid/jgl are fed... How do we adcs who are too squishy deal w that?
@HUNTER-iy8mj
@HUNTER-iy8mj 3 жыл бұрын
Is it still worth to push out a lane like that if your ahead and die due to a enemy champion running down river to cut you off and kill you? I feel like you pushing a lane for the enemy to respond to and you dying is bad right, this gives the enemy opportunity to push other lanes while your dead for pushing a lane. If I am wrong what am i doing wrong in a situation like that?
@opportunitycost3603
@opportunitycost3603 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a toddler learning to walk
@fabiobarros505
@fabiobarros505 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@skillcapped
@skillcapped 3 жыл бұрын
no problem! =)
@austinsoe2506
@austinsoe2506 3 жыл бұрын
I am confused for the question at 6:43. I am not saying your answer is wrong but I am just confused as to how Tristana made an error. From my knowledge if Tristana crashed the wave then backed in the Alcove to avoid dying to the already rotating team (They are rotating to drag and they had a ward on Kruggs bush so they would know Tristana is pushing) then she would allow herself to get one more wave, deny the enemy team a wave (since bot wave would die to tower) and allow the Hecarim or Jax to collect the Mid wave (thus avoiding sharing exp/gold). From what I can tell based on the map, I thought Tristana made the right play. Since Braum didn't clear the Krugg bush ward, if Tristana keeps pushing then the enemy team could possible get the Inhibitor since Hecarim and Jax we just spawning and Fiora had double buffs and their team had at least 3 mid. Thus I thought she should rotate mid to prevent a Mid Inhibitor loss and I thought she managed the wave well. Since Blue side lost Tier 1 bot tower then wouldn't the enemy bot lane minions be buffed? Thus the if the Red and Blue minions meet at the middle of the lane then Red's minions would always push? Since she didn't affect the wave and it will collide in the middle of the lane then doesn't that mean Red's minions push towards Blue? Thus it would deny exp and gold from Red side, Red's Minions would slow push into Blue, and Tristana gets to save Inhibitor, not get ganked/collapsed on (because they have vision on her, also Nunu was missing most like prepping for Dragon), and she gets cannon+the wave mid, and she is able to help her Braum if he gets caught in Blue's jungle (lets Braum w to her or Tristana can use her ult to push off champions from Braum). Thus doesn't rotating to Mid be better? It is a lot safer and you get more gold/exp for the "carry". Again I'm not saying you are wrong, I just want to understand what concepts I have incorrect.
@vizigr0u
@vizigr0u 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't played in a while and never been above gold but I can tell I've been watching all your videos: I answered by your advice every time! Now I want to play and realize how much I suck at everything else than macro :D
@thanhlonglesy3545
@thanhlonglesy3545 3 жыл бұрын
This guide is useless that why you can answer all of that question and stuck at gold
@ArcanePinha
@ArcanePinha 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel but this guide is senseless; TL&DR - Telling everyone to always push is not a Macro Improvement and will probably have toxic results. There were some absurd examples (not to mention rather offensive towards the players in the video) in which pushing the wave could have ended in worse results (being prone/susceptible to being ganked or losing inhibitors) and it never took into consideration the team aspect of Macro (as if Macro didn't involve your team), like pinging your Team, warning you are playing for the Late Game or coordinating objectives with pushes. This seems more like it would incentivize toxic and selfish behaviour than improve anyone's Macro. You can always brainlessly push waves as ADC if your team is on the same page as you, easily applicable to ProPlay and High Elo (hence the Doublelift's example). I hope no low ELO player fall for this overly generalized fallacy and keeps trying to improve their judgement on WHEN to farm and when to group.
@ricardobass4831
@ricardobass4831 3 жыл бұрын
you didnt show the part where diana malph and noc all ult me, what do i do then
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