Docked Tails vs. Natural Tails: Which Is Better?

[@foreverfivefeet]

I’ve been binge watching your videos all week now and I love your videos! I don’t even have a doberman, but I love learning about the breed and you make it so enjoyable! I actually have a slight fear of larger dogs due to a dog bite I got when I was in middle school (I still have a scar). I still love dogs, just a little wary :). But like I said before, thank you for the great quality and entertaining videos, love learning about these amazing dogs! Learning is a great way to combat fear

[@DobermanPlanet]

What an awesome comment Anna! Thank you so much, I'm really honored that you are enjoying the videos. I do try to make them enjoyable to watch even if the video is to teach something. If people are going to give me time from their day I take that seriously and don't want to waste it. Appreciate your comment and please don't be a stranger in the comments section in the future!!

[@jasiahhouston9568]

dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me during the covid times you can stream pretty much all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my girlfriend recently :)

[@cohenjunior9530]

@Jasiah Houston Definitely, I have been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)

[@godfreyojeator999]

Me too. I don't have a dog but I've been enjoying all his videos tremendously and when I'm ready to get a dog it will be doberman because I fell that doberman are built like black men while rottweiler are built like white men. I love doberman they are too cute and yet strong and ferocious when they need to.

[@Compuscience-Python-Prog-Exps]

look for a dog that you fear the most, and make sure to ask someone if they have that kind of dog, but one who's much more friendlier. I had to do that years ago, and my fear has been gone for thirty plus years now. I just don't go near dogs that are without people, or I ask first if I can pat the dog, animal lovers sometime get to do that with the okay of strangers. Just ask someone and tell them why, and they will help you learn how to approach the dog in the right way. Some might be scared if they don't even trust their own dog to that degree, and they will probably tell you it's not a good idea. If the person knows exactly how the dog will be with strangers, then he or she will show you how to pat the dog and interact with his/her twirling and twisting ways they move their body around, when being scratched in the right places. That usually helps make the dog a real friend really fast. They communicate differently to us humans, and if they like to be touched and petted, let your hand do the talking and the dog will show you where to scratch and pat him or her. Much like a cat will in its ways, if you've ever seen cats rub up against someone and twirl around and around when you pat them is like them speaking back to us....... xox

[@RS-rv6if]

I'm still anti docking, but BRILLIANT video!!! Lets all be respectful and enjoy the great content on this channel!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed it. It's cool you're anti-docking. A lot of people are right there with you. You're always welcomed here!

[@LoneWolf20213]

I am anti docking and cropping, the natural look of a dog is good, and only if for medical reasons, the tail should stay on

[@VixOfAllTrades]

Controversial topic aside... The sheer effort you have put into creating, researching, writing, film (all those different angles), editing, everything is incredible. Great job.

[@snappycattimesten]

John won that debate. Just sayin’.

[@DobermanPlanet]

I agree... I dominated myself...

[@flukeman022]

​@@DobermanPlanet red pill or blue pill?

[@Lord_AB]

@@flukeman022 john pill

[@flukeman022]

@Lord_AB Good answer, nobody will be able to top that!

[@glbblg9626]

I have a brown doberman, I can't imagine removing her tail or ears. Her floppy ears and wagging tail are adorable. Less people are afraid of a natural doberman compared to a modified doberman. Not to mention I would miss out when I am on the bed/couch and I see that curly tail circling me like a shark.

[@scottiriddellonbass]

I've got a rescued Cropped & Docked Dobermann, its a really bizarre to think someone paid to surgically mutilate his ears and tail, just to make him look mean. Its a lot of suffering and trauma for a young dog to go through.. Even now as a 7 year old he has difficulty with pain in his ears when its cold out.. Despite what he's been through he's a big gentle darling of a dog..

[@bigt8066]

@Scott Riddell problem is if your dogs are neutered, it's the same as docking a tail or cropping there ears so, unless you completely have a natural dog. It's kinda hypocritical

[@scottiriddellonbass]

@@bigt8066 my dog isn’t neutered..

[@bigt8066]

@@scottiriddellonbass are you against it?

[@scottiriddellonbass]

@@bigt8066 , I’m 100% against it, neutering a dog controls the population.. cutting its ears and tail off is done just to achieve a look.. It’s stupid and cruel and thankfully illegal in the UK.. The dog I have was imported from Bulgaria already mutilated by an asshole who wanted a “tougher” looking dog.. Mutilating a dog for your own vanity is bizarre behaviour and absolutely disgusting.

[@jedikanton8447]

I loved how you actually researched the pros and cons of cropping the dogs. Other KZbin channels would have only told the pros of what they liked and cons of what they disliked, and you did the opposite you showed an all around opinion which is AMAZING!!! It made me think about it.... keep up the great content, THANKS!!!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you! Yeah I really tried hard to get myself hyped up on whatever argument I was arguing at that part of the video before recording (like get myself passionate about for or against docking). I'm glad it came through on both sides of the debate. Thanks so much for the nice comment! Don't be a stranger!

[@yyg4632]

agreed, best way to learn

[@MrFastFox666]

Personally, I have my dog not for its "intended purpose" but as a companion. Also, I don't really care if my dog doesn't conform to the breed standard. I just think undocked tails look better

[@jakerubino3233]

Doberman’s are such a beautiful looking dog with tails and with natural ears. Yeah they look good “modified” but I love em just they way they are. In Australia the laws changed years ago to outlaw these procedures so it takes the choice away luckily. I owned a Rottweiler that had a docked tail and it was done by the breeder, and I’ll add that it wasn’t perfect as there was a sprig of rogue long hair that grew from the stump and this was the source of many chomped flies and even the odd pigeon that strayed anywhere near his tail. Just the lightest stimulation to his tail was enough to elicit a rapid chomp at whatever was close. He was a brute of a beast in size but gentle in nature- unless you strayed into tail territory!

[@albertjayboyzybarra4]

The tail is very weak and fragile for a doberman. Docking will prevent injury and money later down the line.

[@annakoenig7803]

@@albertjayboyzybarra4 Never had a problem with that. But i´ve seen multiple cropped dobis laying in the mud alle the time because they weren´t able to keep up with the agility of the ones with a tail. A LOT of falling down when a cropped dobi changes direction XD

[@edwinchipe6621]

Red and blue shirts in a political year, nice touch

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha yeah I thought that was appropriate since it was a debate!

[@ccardozo4727]

Loved this it gave me a lot of more details and sides of the argument that I never thought about!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you! So glad you liked it!

[@kyndleolivia]

lol, when anti-docking you told pro-docking you to “please just shut your mouth for a minute,” I had flashbacks to the first presidential debate.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha I had a few people say that. Lol.

[@yonikatzav4802]

@@DobermanPlanet "presidential debate"...must be her back in the day

[@yonikatzav4802]

not the greatest handle...loose understanding of the subject

[@mr.d1796]

This video and the comments convinced me to never dock/crop my future Dobies. Thank you everyone!

[@BlushedResolution]

Super entertaining and informative!! The chewing the stump and misunderstood social interactions applies to my other pup who has a half-removed tail (not sure if it was docked, birth, or an accident) when we got him. No matter what breed, this is my favorite channel for information.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed it and thanks for rescuing your pup too! At least that's what it sounds like you did. Such a good thing to do for the breed!

[@crossy2456]

Hahaha that was amazing. I’m still against tail docking but it was great to see you shedding some light from both sides and most importantly making a great video out of it. Enjoy your work!

[@Greekkitty]

I have both a docked tail male and a tall beautiful full tail and ears female. I prefer the natural tail and ears. Love this video. Great way to hear argument for both. 👍

[@Eyes2theSkies]

I would leave the tail alone for the reasons given. I love how you presented this topic. It was a fun and informative ride! Thanks John! 🤣💖

[@DobermanPlanet]

So glad you enjoyed it! Of course! Appreciate you giving the video a few minutes from your day!

[@iheartmoneybags619]

mine isnt docked amd has floppy ears lol the tail is a distraction

[@Steve200300]

At the end of the day weather it’s a a Dobermann with docked tail cropped ears or a Dobermann with a natural tail and ears, It’s still a Dobermann. There character is still the same.

[@Steve200300]

@@YBehri yes that is my Dobermann sadly he passed away about 10 yrs ago miss him big time he had such a great character.

[@Steve200300]

@@YBehri still have my saluki/ greyhound he was a rescue he’s about 8/9 now like nothing more than sleep lol

[@NiwatiX]

I would have a hard time educating a dog with no tail, that's 50% of body language, it's much harder to detect (for me at least for my level of experience) if the dog about to attack other dogs without the tail language. The tail will telegraph sometimes multiples minutes in advance aggression, that's a good feature on such a powerful dog

[@saribeepo.o5111]

that's kind of an odd argument though.. There are plenty of dogs that have naturally bobbed tails, or a strange curl tail (pugs) and yet people and other dogs seem to be able to work with them just fine.... Also, is the tail really that much of body language? It seems like every time I read what a tail motion means it's coupled with 'but it can also mean *something else * so look at the rest of the body language '. On the other side of the coin, I've never heard anyone describe the over all body or the ears, but then add 'oh but look at the tail to be sure'. .... I don't know, maybe I'm crazy but I best read my dogs' by their overall body, and their face (including ears). I rarely notice the tail unless it's doing something particular (like full circle wags ) and even then it's only on occasion.

[@PixieLove5]

@@saribeepo.o5111 there is 1 singular breed that is born without even a nub for a tailbone. The Corgis. Any other breed has tails, or a “nub” or “stump”. That still doesn’t eliminate the scientific evidence and facts that tails help animals to communicate. As Bobcats and Lynx’s are mostly solitary mammals that do not need to be in a pack/herd. their communication is not refined or even, needed in most aspects. Tails are also used for balance and things of that nature. Bobs, Lynx’s, etc. mostly hunt on ground, they do not need these tails to help them to hunt. Dogs without tails(natural or not) have issues communicating. This is why so many Frenchies, Boston’s, etc. have such issues behaviorally. Imagine trying to say it to someone but all you can do is flip them off since that’s the only finger left on your hands. That’s a gross oversimplification but, that’s essentially what it’s like. Signals become confusing and other dogs can’t read/understand YOUR dog. It’s not about YOU reading your dog. Your dog also has to be able to read other dogs and vice versa. Otherwise you end up with an aggressive or anxiety ridden animal that shows signs of distress when around anyone or anything other than their “human” or “sibling”. These signs can be seen and noticed easily while others, are less prone to show what they feel.

[@lafunk1978]

​@@PixieLove5also bobcat and lynx have evolved to have bobbed tails ... It benefited their lifestyle.... Dogs all evolved from wolves who have tails.... And domestic dogs benefit from having a tail

[@kiiiirbzzz]

@@PixieLove5the corgies are not the only one with nubs for tails, tf 💀 australian stumpy tail cattle dog and the Brittany

[@PixieLove5]

@@kiiiirbzzz you said it directly in your own words…..”stumpy tailed”. It’s okay. Most people seem to lack simple basic comprehension. The Brittany also has a “nub”. If you actually read my comment instead of just key words, you’d learn something! Imagine that! The more you know 💫

[@vanessagonzalez7862]

Those outtakes were hilarious 🤣. Great video like always, i hope this helped people make their decision on tail-docking easier

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks so much Vanessa, really glad you enjoyed this one! It was a fun one to make... haha... thinking of ways to insult myself.

[@paschalia100]

Great video guys! Not winner > 💇 👨‍🦳 🦸‍♂️

[@mrs.thomas-usmcwife5686]

I have a rescue (we aren't sure what breed, but we know it's some kind of terrier mix) and his tail was docked when we found him. I have no idea why they would dock the tail of a mix breed like him. However, I can relate to the idea of communication problems. I often look at a tail to see how the dog feels and it's a little harder to do with a docked tail. He also does NOT like you messing with it. I wish I had the ability to own a Dobe, but we just don't have the ability to put the time in. Great vids btw.

[@D13fs]

I had a greyhound mix and a doberman at the same time. The doberman was already docked by the breeder and we chose not to crop the ears. I must say that the greyhound mix dog could turn much tighter and faster circles when running than the doberman could. You could see how much her tail came into use for balance and stability when doing these running turns. So for overall agility I think the tail is very important. I often wonder about arguments for cropping and docking. You don't see that ,generally, on working GSD's or Malinois. They still have ears and tails that can be grabbed etc. and they seem to be the most widely used protection/police/military dogs. Clearly it is for the looks alone. The doberman breed looks great either way.

[@U.R.coolkid]

True about the other working dogs but dobes have their tails sticking out a lot more than a shep... I am really thinking it through whether or not i should dock my dog's tail, i don't think i will tbh but im worried they would hit it too hard against a hard surface or it'll get nagged somehow and hurt the poor dog :/

[@timmyadam3542]

The problem really is that Dobes have historically had the tail docked and the ears cropped. They haven't had time to slowly genetically mod to have a thicker tail, or tougher ears. They essentially haven't needed to get there naturally cause man has done it for them. I'm also not a fan of dobes w the tail, and I'd have a very hard time going back to floppy ears, having had both, the cropped ears are just way more expressive and I think better looking.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yeah, I think though that the breed standard has a lot to do with it. That standard was written based on the breed's original purpose (in this case protection work). Whereas the GSD's and Malinois were originally created for the purposes of herding animals. You've got some interesting points though for sure!

[@D13fs]

@@DobermanPlanetI do love the look and had always wanted a Doberman since watching them on Magnum P.I. as a kid. I did get a European, he was great (lived for 10 years), and I will get one again. Love your channel.

[@timmyadam3542]

We've been doing some bitework w my female, so it makes sense for her, either way, wouldn't u feel silly to think your doing what's best then having a broken tail. I mean history is there for a reason, if its not to be learned from then whats the point. But also, get it done properly from a vet. The idea that a person would do this at home is frustrating.

[@debbiekandoll891]

John Walters this was BRILLIANT!!!! You carefully and thoughtfully covered all aspects of tail docking-pros and cons-in a whimsical and humorous fashion!! Extremely educational and just plain FUN!! Why can’t our politicians follow your style??😉 You know...just saying...maybe in 2024 our nation might need Arlo as “First Doberman”!! Talk to your wife to see if you can run...you’d be a MASTERFUL diplomat!!!🎉🎉🇺🇸 (JK!) Hubby and I LOVED the out takes, too! Keep up the GREAT INFORMATION!!!👍👌👍👌❤️

[@SparkyRih]

I agree with the con about communication, bur generally I'm for docking for all the reasons mentioned...

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yup, I am big on reading a dog and using that during training. So I definitely put some weight in the communication argument too.

[@D13fs]

I had a docked Doberman and his "stub" communicated a lot! Unless your Dobe's tail is docked too short you still get plenty of info communicated through it. Nothing like seeing that stub going into overdrive when the dog is excited/happy! But sure, not as easy to read other indications as a complete tail.

[@SparkyRih]

@@D13fs our 2 previous dobermanns did have a "moving stub", but our current dobermann has a one which has been docked too short... but on the plus side it gives me the oppertunity to learn to read all the other things better...

[@jiliciar.1423]

Ikr, me too!

[@basharshami3403]

haha loved the presentation idea in this video along with the arguments for both sides. creative and informative, well done! oh and btw, i like the blue shirt guy more, i don't know why, it's just something about him ;)

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha yeah! Red shirt guy was a pain in my rear. Haha. Thanks for checking out the video, glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@raymonddeflaviis2306]

Another much needed topic for open discussion! Some potential topics for the future......Why do intact males dig? Is it strictly boredom or is it den building behavior? Just how good are males/females at judging a real threat to a benign threat? Are American Dobermans better at discerning real threats than their European counterparts? What about laws on the books about a dog protecting their owners, in an unprovoked confrontation? Thanks very much!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Great ideas Ray! Thank you!

[@madginger3634]

I love it. You can see the greyhound influence in the tail of the Doberman.

[@DobermanPlanet]

So glad you enjoyed it MadCronk! Yeah, I never really made that connection but I see it now.

[@alexwood7556]

This video is so entertaining! I love this channel!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it.

[@sylvesterflores13]

I have a Dalmation but I’m so inlove with dogs . And in the future planning to add a Doberman. Your videos are just awesome man so informant and fun to watch !

[@tinkerbell4828]

I've binged watched your videos for a couple of days now. I sadly lost my springer to cancer a couple of days ago. I've wanted a doberman for as long as I can remember and once I feel ready for another dog I will take the plunge, its good to get a proper insight into their nature

[@daylaholleman9584]

Could you do a video in this debate-style about the pros and cons of spay/neuter? I love your channel and plan on getting a dobie soon.

[@DobermanPlanet]

That sounds fun! Haha. You did see my two videos I did already on the topic though right? I did one on spaying and one on neutering. Both had their pros and cons. But it wasn't a debate style though, which is pretty fun.

[@soumyaranjandas5633]

This is such a nice work John...loved this video. The last argument was quite funny.👍

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha so glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I let loose on myself at the end... haha.

[@PixieLove5]

Dogs lose more than just their tails. They lose their ability to adjust mid-air. To make sharp turns. To keep balance. To communicate. Imagine chopping off your big toe. That’s essentially what your doing, except worse! Thank you for this 💖 I’m getting a Doberman for my daughter and I and I REFUSE any mutilation to my animals.

[@RealLifeIronMan]

They're not birds. They don't use their tails as rudders in the air. Their tails also aren't heavy enough to effect their balance as they move. Dogs have tails to waft scents excreted from their scent glands near the anus. When they wag their tails they waft this scent. If that was your argument, you'd have a stronger case.

[@PixieLove5]

@@RealLifeIronMan you dumb asf and I’m Mclovin’ it. “The tail helps the dog maintain his balance by putting its weight on the opposite side of the dog's tilt, much like a tightrope walker uses the balance bar to stay on the tightrope. Dogs that enjoy climbing various surfaces will use their tails to balance on uneven footing, such as rocks or trees.” AKC webpage. But please, tell me more? How’s Twitter, btw? 🤡

[@vegeta-de6ql]

​@@RealLifeIronMan obviously if the tail is cut they lose balance that's common sense

[@vegeta-de6ql]

The cropped ears and cut tail were for stupid dog shows not how the original doberman looked

[@DanielThomas808]

Amazing video again! Great way to display the pros an cons of each, without being biased!

[@marksewe114]

Nicely done. Some serious editing went into this, and it shows

[@silviakapfinger4956]

HI JOHN! LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, YOU ARE THE BEST!!👍👍💜💙

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thank you!

[@caroleorion1273]

Aw it wouldn't be the same in our house if my dobe isn't knocking ornaments off with his tail but I have to say they lovely dogs with or without.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha that's funny! I didn't make the endearing quality argument in the video, I should have! :-D Totally agree with you. They are great dogs no matter what!

[@joss5582]

John gave me so much info, and after reading those studies, Im gonna have to go with John

[@taphaelreid]

I thank the lord daily that KZbin brought your channel to me. I've always had a passion for the doberman breed but have never own one. Ive learned so much through your channel.Amazing editing btw. Keep up the great work.

[@moupiyaghosh732]

Nice presentation. Both are right on their respective points. I am also a Doberman lover. Love you guys from India.

[@Wahal087]

man your channel really has grown! great work man 😎👍 glad to be part of doberman planet

[@sainidhruv07]

thanks so much...made my decision very simple. would never crop this beautiful dog's ears or dock its tail!

[@julianesterkin6625]

Like that starting music! Also this is hilarious! Keep that up! (Getting puppy today!!!) :)

[@quintonritchie1153]

Congratulations! 🎉 I wish I was in your position 😭

[@sabo4373]

Doberman pup???

[@uchihamadara9254]

@@quintonritchie1153 one day u will get I fought with my parents and I won

[@DobermanPlanet]

Congratulations! Good luck, you'll do great! Thanks so much for checking out this video!

[@fuyu5979]

Fantastic n informative video: arguments for N against docking the doberman's tail. It seems a hard decision depending from which perspective n background the owner belongs to. Kudos for such a practical video. Thanks. Will be looking forward to your next video. Peace.

[@norakateb6234]

EARLY thank you for the amazing video today!!!! Keep up with the great work❤️❤️

[@DobermanPlanet]

Definitely, so glad you enjoyed it!

[@micahmidstar2577]

I’m so happy you made this video Oh and once I get my Doberman it’s going to have cropped ears because it looks cool and a undocked tail because first I don’t want the Doberman to have to go through that and I still want it to have at least some emotion and to me it looks like a dragon

[@jennyferhatala9559]

Actually the dog can show you just as much as with an undocked tail. It still moves the same way. If he is alert the docked tail is up if he is scared its down if he is happy its wiggling. Its movement wont differ if its docked. We have 2 docked dobermans and they can show their current mood with their docked tail

[@DobermanPlanet]

Well I'm glad you are excited about the breed for sure!

[@pickettmandi]

Yes , dont buy into "you cant tell their emotion " 100% Bullshit.

[@CinnaSpicey]

People should do what they want to do with their dogs when it comes to ear cropping and tail docking. But here's the thing. I have a lab mix and a pure bred doberman. The doberman's tail is docked. He has no issues with the tail being docked. They communicate well. We communicate well. He uses his ears to Express his mood and his barking most of the time. I think it should be done properly. It should not be illegal. People should have the right to choose. People shouldn't be nasty to each other like the two guys representing the arguments look like. Just accept that some people see it differently and move on. Be happy the breed is being loved and going to good homes. There are many owners out there who don't treat their dogs well. I remember seeing a white doberman that looked like it never had a meal before. All skin and bones. Without ear cropping and tail docking. My parents wanted to take that dobe away from those owners. How could they let that beautiful white dobe look that way. We would have taken it home no questions asked to get that dog back to wieght its supposed to be, and give it the life its supposed to have. We all should focus on being the best owners we can be to them.

[@A_Wee_spook]

This was an Entertaining video. My dog bites and licks his nub all the time. And i never knew why. So thanks for that!

[@DobermanPlanet]

So glad you enjoyed it! Also that you got something out of it. Very cool. Don't be a stranger in the comments section!

[@Anyusha]

What a genius idea!!! I enjoyed every second of this video :)

[@martinofit]

I know you did an ear cropping video, but I think an ear cropping video in this style would be very cool and helpful!

[@xdeltaptx]

I adopt a doberman (in Portugal we have an association that only deals whit dobermans) and she comes whit her tail docked (and only 3 legs). I have to admit I never associated it whit less communication. She is not ok whit other dogs (unless they are dobermans, funny enough) so she just "talks " to me, my husband and our cats. Maybe that explains a lot ^^ thank you :)

[@lhmcd5538]

A discussion like this is needed. Thank you.

[@leopard6554]

Great video...!!! I've never had a dog before but your videos are persuading me to get one -- AND a Doberman...!!! I'm a huge fan of German shepherds but shedding is not my favorite thing so Doberman is the best...!!! By the way, I think everything should be in its natural shape and from...!!!

[@lauriekoppenaal298]

I grew up with Dobies. Both were wonderful, loving, and protective. We never “ordered” them from a breeder, they were both rescues and came with docked tails. I can say for a fact both had a lot of sensitivity in their tails their whole lives. We never cropped their ears as they were adorable with them and felt it was unnecessary. And of course they were neutered/spayed.

[@TaylorEspich]

Thanks for always making great videos about such a wonderful breed! Doberman have such strong power behind their tails so I’m so glad you mentioned injuries! I’ve regretted not docking a dog in the past because they had hurt themselves hitting their tail on a wall too hard just from their excitement! Quite the bummer.

[@alphadog5996]

Love the information. Both arguments make good points.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Thanks Alpha! Glad you liked the argument style of this one. I know it was a little different from my other videos but it was a lot of fun to argue with myself.

[@Nabilwpq]

I'm so happy tail docking and ear cropping is forbidden here in Germany :)

[@lizettecorona6116]

😞

[@hops6254]

Thanks for the info because I wanted to dock my dobermans tail when I get one which is young like 5 days old

[@Fedoraandrapier]

I think this video is great in that everone that comes in with a bias gets their viewpoint a solid argument, while learning something new withput being talked down to.

[@aravindbaiju2584]

Wow, this video is awesome. I really loved the way of presentation. I really enjoyed the video, the debate was so nicely done, I really appreciate your effort which you're putting on to make Dobermans the best. In my opinion, I really love Dobermans which is cropped and docked because that will make them an ideal Doberman Pinscher.

[@okechukwuukaogo3507]

A very good debate, I guess the owner of a dog should be less judge mental about other peoples dogs, and choose how to keep their own dog

[@Torthetamebadger]

Great as usual! Just one thing tghat would enhance the video! When you as the "moderator" talks to the red you you look to your right, but also when you talk to the blue you. Even though red and blu e you sits looking at each other. You should look to the right to the red and to your left to the blue. That would make it 100% Take care/Mats/ Sweden

[@GraceMusyoka]

What I have learnt: cutting the ears and tail is just aesthestics to pay homage to the owner. Tail may be okay coz it is done early coz less pain and all. May not even get ones with tails. However, if I get one with all parts and I'm squeemish and can safely leave all the bits as they are.🤔 Great lesson.

[@barborapolakova4682]

Interesting how U.S and Europe differ in rules about standard of Dobies, in my country (Slovakia) its illegal to dock tails and crop ears because its considered an animal abuse, in dog shows its normal to see undocked dobies with long ears :D I think about tail docking there are some exceptions but ear cropping has no exceptions.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yeah it is crazy the differences since here in the U.S. you almost never see a natural Dobie. In fact, most people won't recognize the dog as a Dobie if it's not both cropped and docked. Very different it seems!

[@Suprisedbuzz]

Dude this is so accurate to how debates are irl 😂

[@nehtomal]

Such a beautifully made video, good job on that one. Currently in the process of adopting and I must say this really is a difficult subject for me. However, for many reasons, our pup's tail will probably be cropped.

[@ekanshchopra9479]

Woah man , your vedios are getting really really good and more informative , love this channel cause of the hard work you are putting in it ❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥💯 k soon 🎉

[@DobermanPlanet]

Really appreciate it! It's funny because the videos I do which seem to do the best are just videos about Arlo running around and being a dog. But the ones where I put a lot of work and research into so they can help more Doberman owners don't do as well. Not sure why. But honestly I love helping people the most so even if it's not the most popular, I'm going to keep doing the informative ones.

[@ekanshchopra9479]

@@DobermanPlanet 😂 I guess people like just looking at these cute doogos running around which is all good until you actually know what a tough but fun job it is keeping them , rather than actually understanding and learning more about this beautiful breed which will help them if they ever get these cute and loving troublemakers in future 😂😂🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@paulh462]

Cool format! After watching I'm on team no docking.

[@1yehny]

Omg, a Doberman without docked tail and natural ears are beautiful. I am going to get a dog with natural ears and tail…great looking dog.

[@MrBaguette09]

Woah your videos are so interesting!

[@douglasgriffiths3534]

Both of mine have natural tails and ears. Most people don't think they're Dobies. When I got them, they were too old (over 6 months) to get either done. Back in the 80s I had 2 Dobies, one cropped and docked, and the other natural. The cropped male was head shy, the natural female was not. I think they look good both ways. It's a personal preference. (Jan Griffiths).

[@naomiroppel3897]

Just found the channel so I'm a little behind. I've always thought it ridiculous to modify an animal for looks alone, prior to getting my red& rust girl Rouge, I didn't realize just how much of a handhold a natural tail can be. For anyone looking into protection training it may just be a good idea to doc the tail. However, on the whole I still feel leaving the tail natural is best especially for communication purposes. I also lightly grab her tail to get her attention sometimes. And a full length tail def helps with agility, and should probably be left if you are planning on agility training or competing. Natural tails are also now part of the breed standard.

[@thomasgilfix1166]

Best video yet! Would love to hear about dewclaws!

[@Lolly2601]

Personally I like cropped better but here in the uk I wouldn’t be allowed. Still though, the soft look is adorable and cropped or uncropped dobies are beautiful dogs!!!! Also just a video idea, you could do pros and cons of getting dew claws removed as it isn’t talked about as much at tail docking and ear cropping with the breed but lots of owners may consider it! Thanks for the great video!!!

[@LouisCo-vi3xb]

I'm with Red shirt John 😊

[@benb6431]

Such good videos better than a TV show I love these videos quality quality quality !!!

[@4263484]

I really appreciate this video. Very informative and very entertaining 👏🏿

[@RavageEject84]

Please do a ears variation of this

[@DobermanPlanet]

I did an ears one (kzbin.info/www/bejne/faDUo3eDhs96ptk) but it wasn't an argument/debate style like this one was.

[@RavageEject84]

@@DobermanPlanet awesome 👏

[@maisiehughes4437]

I don't like to dock for cosmetic reason but I love working that have cropped and docked

[@maisiehughes4437]

As well as working can be a show American Doberman pincher but I would rather it be more inclusive

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yeah I totally get that stance. You aren't alone in that boat either.

[@vijaykrishnaak2073]

The ending is the best😂😂

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha so glad you enjoyed it! I let myself have it at the end there for sure. Haha.

[@vijaykrishnaak2073]

@@DobermanPlanet ❤

[@archietyler6759]

Great information!!! I laughed so hard watching this video. Thank you so much!😂😂😂

[@gayathriwickramarachchi4711]

Your editing is so good.

[@simonmurphy4025]

I love my dobermanns tail. As a puppy especially it's the best indication... He's about to sh*t on the rug!

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha! See! That's a form of communication you may not have otherwise. Lol.

[@Aeris357]

From an ethnological point of view tail docking limits a dog’s ability to communicate, I’m therefore against. On the contrary I’m totally for ear cropping because it enhances both communication skills and the ability to hear.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Very interesting! Appreciate this viewpoint on both. Yeah the communication one is a big one for a lot of people.

[@MrNeversweat]

Now I think it's morally wrong to dock the tail just for the sake of how they look, then again they'll look ordinary and not imposing with that tail Grrrrrrrr Great debate and Mr red sounds more like you 🙂

[@BigOldScout]

Well, I’m in contact with a breeder. The videos showing one that’s docked and one that isn’t is what made my mind. I’m getting him undocked. Since I’m getting one because of reasons outside being a show dog.

[@LouisCo-vi3xb]

Having a tail serve as a rudder in swimming killed me .. 😅😊😂

[@gustavobohorquez211]

Great job, thanks for the content

[@krisfujimoto72]

I love the Dobie Planet videos.

[@madginger3634]

Tail docking does cause communication problems I agree but I feel it's minimal.

[@DobermanPlanet]

Yeah I'm sure they adapt but who knows how much. Arlo sure can still figure out how to communicate just fine with me.

[@reaganjanaerichard5009]

xD That was very fun. It helped a lot in my decision, too.

[@marinodejesus8024]

Very nice video! The end was funny Lmao

[@DobermanPlanet]

Haha thanks... I just thought I would let loose at the end there.

[@flordeespinart]

dude great production and script!!

[@janleskosk]

Thank you for the episode! Are there any statistics on how common the injuries of dogs with natural tails are?

[@WingsAsEaglesMinistries]

I’m not sure what state you live in but I’m curious if dobies are found more in certain parts of the country or is it pretty much same straight across ? An example is we own 2 Great Pyrenees which are more prevalent it seems across the Midwest and south by live stock owners or homestead owners . Just wondering where the most dobies are found ...great channel

[@ct-bone413]

Wow!!!!! I just came across this channel and man I have made a total 360 turn on my thoughts of the Doberman. I though that they were not smart and they were very angry dogs ( I never owned a dog). I recently had been curious about getting a dog and being in miliary security enforcement I only knew about the Malinois because I wanted a smart dog. Since I watched you channel I'm addicted and possibly down the road I will be getting doberman. Question!!! If I get another dog will the doberman work well with a companion such as a Malinois dog or what do you suggest?

[@MIZZKIE]

I completely agree with the argument about spaying and neutering. A spay/neuter is 100 times harmful than a tail dock. I think I'm gonna adopt a Doberman that is both docked and cropped rather than buy so that I can just flip people off if they try to call me an animal abuser.

[@chidij20]

I just love your channel 🔥🔥🔥

[@omnigar9611]

found mine in a ditch at about 5 pounds. her tail has almost broken my noise several times. still wouldn't cut it off, and i love her floppy ears.

[@ahmadeltayeb8720]

Hi john! I love your videos, they're really a great help, hope you continue to keep making them. I got a doberman pup but he is 7 weeks and 2 days old, is there any big concern i should worry about? Can i start potty training him?