Doctor Strange vs Doctor Fate Who Would Win? | MCU vs DCEU

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#blackadam #doctorstrange #doctorfate #mcu #dceu

[@KeyIssues]

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[@gabrielhughes8221]

Nonetheless Dr.fate is only in One Movie and in the movie of Black Adam. Meaning there's isn't many feats of Dr.Fate.

[@HoodedSpidey]

Please re-scale DCEU Batman with his Justice League speed feats! (From both versions lol)

[@HDX12-]

I have to disagree you used a part of comics even if it wasn’t directly in the match up it’s still braking the MCU/DCU power scaling that was my first point the second is you said Thanos didn’t have to use the power stone to destroy stranges clone but the the roso brothers said thanos used everything he had to defeat dr strange at the time strange still hade the time stone but didn’t use it my third point is you said stranges barriers didn’t hold thanos witch is true but he’s shild held one punch from thanos and thanos is more powerful then the hulk so that it’s not entirely true what you said my fourth point is you said that dr fate can use his astro ability to escape that is not true just like hell you can’t escape because it’s outside the universe my fifth point is that you said fate has more experience than strange but strange held the time stone it’s time itself basically and he used it to practice probability if you look at the first move and averagers inf he was able to use the time stone smoothly and also in the first move mordo said the sling ring can travel the multiverse I think it’s a plot hole but maybe you need to be very powerful to use it like that again those are my personal thoughts and if you know the answer to them please tell me but i like your channel allot sorry for my bad English it’s my 3rd language

[@gabrielhughes8221]

@@HDX12- However on the part about the host of Dr.fate do got more skills and experience than Dr. Strange. The time stone doesn't make dr. Strange more knowledgeable. Especially against the host of Dr.fate a.k.a kent Nelson , and he is more older & wiser than doctor Strange & having the helmet of Fate, give extra knowledge to Kent Nelson.

[@HDX12-]

@@gabrielhughes8221 yeah but age would be irrelevant because he controls time he could go back in time to the start of the universe if he wanted not saying that he did but he could

[@Lazarou101]

Dr Fate was unironically the best part of Black Adam

[@KeyIssues]

The uncle, Karim, was actually the best part but Dr.Fate was a close second

[@VunderGuy]

The best part was actually the awesome action, which Dr. Fate and Black Adam were apart of.

[@spectrexr1]

Don't sleep on hawkman

[@MandatoryFruit]

The whole film was good

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Fate and Hawkman the GOATs

[@damien1117]

The director said he could beat black Adam and sabacc but chose not too because that wasn’t his fate and he wanted to die as long as he saves his friend

[@KeyIssues]

Yah I said that in the video

[@damien1117]

@@KeyIssues i love the vids man keep it up

[@Axel-nm7st]

Fate himself stated that his power cannot defeat sabacc so no Lmao

[@mrjuice4070]

@@Axel-nm7st true I respect key issues power scaling but the man himself said we cannot defeat black Adam as a team and I cannot beat you to sabocc also he even said he needed black Adam otherwise sabocc would take over the world

[@KeyIssues]

@@Axel-nm7st I think the director knows what his characters say in the movie.

[@madambutterfly1997]

I like the crystalization effect of Dr. Fate’s spells

[@oblivion6891]

same

[@comicbooknerd3570]

Me too

[@TheDollhouseKiller]

Ssame

[@Anonymous-gt9wh]

Same it’s a different unique magic style and it fits him

[@ilikestuff828]

It is cool

[@zainebamfo2077]

I’m pretty sure Doctor Fate could escape the Mirror Dimension. I mean he can teleport which would get him out. The sling ring can also teleport to get Strange out. Plus Wanda managed to get out so Strange has no win cons in this fight😂

[@TheHiddenOne426]

I think even Spiderman managed to get out 😂

[@zainebamfo2077]

@@TheHiddenOne426 oh Yh💀

[@KeyIssues]

Yeah but he had to use math… the THING NERDS LIKE!!!!

[@Sharpshooter69420]

@@TheHiddenOne426 typical average movie watcher, he managed to get out with sling ring LoL, and sling ring allows to travel through dimensions.. fate's teleportation feats are no where near there (in live action)

[@TheHiddenOne426]

@@Sharpshooter69420 You got Discord? We can debate there.

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

Even before this video, I had a strong feeling that Doctor Fate would be more powerful than Doctor Strange due to his connection to the Lords of Order. You provided a great explanation to prove the point.

[@christianphrenger7902]

Yeah But That Means Nothin When We Have NO Scaling For The Lords Of Order In The Movies While Wanda & Strange Have Scaling And Feats Above Fate.

[@ammadkhan2352]

Dr fate is easily the more powerful character in entire dcu

[@christianphrenger7902]

@@ammadkhan2352 Yeah In The Comics but This Is Movie Versions.

[@yungtorie4000]

@@christianphrenger7902 plus let's not forget how Dr strange turned a black hole into butterflies in IW

[@christianphrenger7902]

@@yungtorie4000 Bro 100% There Isnt A Single Feat In The DCEU Close To Star Level And Doctor Strange AND Thor Both Have Feats Of This Caliber....

[@michaelmyers0003]

Bruh Dr. Fate almost has a built-in time stone

[@ovyle]

Also reality, mind, power, soul and space

[@USAandPROUD]

He can't control time tho

[@ovyle]

@@USAandPROUD I think he meant like the seeing the future part of the time stone.

[@BassBanj0]

@@USAandPROUD In some way he pretty much can, seeing as he can see the future and change it to his will

[@castlekingside76]

Full power Dr Fate could take on Darkseid. The Lords of Order are insanely powerful.

[@Axel-nm7st]

Not movie fate lmao

[@ovyle]

@@Axel-nm7st Movie fate can take on Darkseid, the only reason he lost to sabbac is because he wanted to lose. Before he was stabbed he removed the helmet.

[@TrashCanOdor]

@@ovyle Dude stop wanking. We haven’t even seen darkseid full power and your very bias to Dr Fate. Stop making head canons.

[@Axel-nm7st]

@@ovyle He cant take on Darkseid Lmao, he couldn’t even take on Black Adam. Also no Dr fate didn’t let himself be defeated, he himself stated that his power cannot defeat sabaac watch the movie lol

[@ovyle]

@@Axel-nm7st No, i meant nabu dr fate not kent nelson dr fate.

[@SadnessB4Madness]

Once again pumping out hard work👌 One day both fanbases would love a dceu & mcu collective tier list from you guys!

[@imaheadout457]

Kent Nelson even without the Helmet of Fate is already Doctor Strange level

[@gabrielhughes8221]

Yeah Kent Nelson is powerful in his own rights, nonetheless , Kent is also older than Doctor Strange , although the Helmet of Fate does keep the host AKA The Vessel alive longer it still reduce and decrease the power of Dr.fate. But in a younger body and I hope it would happen next movie that the host of Dr.fate will be someone younger who wear the Helmet of Fate. So Dr.fate will be at full strength.

[@leozoka.4204]

No. Dr Fate doesn't have feats and scaling on Dr strange level.

[@zechariah2092]

@@leozoka.4204 did u watch the vide

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@gabrielhughes8221hosts age isn't charging the strength of fate, it's just that Kent was in full control and Nabu didn't do anything in the movie

[@derekgonzalezmercado513]

a little headcannon i had was that fate was weaker in the fight against sabbac because he was defying fate something wich the helmet usually dislikes probably limiting his abilities

[@castlekingside76]

Dr Fate can take on the Spectre. He can give himself Superman's powers basically.

[@yohankuriyan7633]

Also you can easily make a case that he was severely weakened from creating that barrier blocking the justice society It would make sense that he was diverting a lot of energy there, since hawkman couldn’t even break it with his mace

[@FrostDK98]

@@castlekingside76 That's comics fate and comcis are always much stronger than live action

[@its_dey_mate]

@@yohankuriyan7633 Yeah, ESPECCIALLY when you remember that nth metal is a counter to magic. He should be able to destroy magic constructs with relative ease and the fact he didn't say a lot of how strong the barrier was, add the Smasher and Cyclone who were capable of holding down and encasing Black Adam respectfully also trying to break the barrier AND the fact his mind was helping Adam break free it tells you at how much of a disadvantage Fate was.

[@Callumdevan17]

Zeus didn't destroy the Mother Boxes, he separated them.

[@joseluis5055]

You should make a tier list which includes both MCU and DCEU characters

[@sealmonkey69]

that would be at least 5hrs+, but i would be down to watch the whole thing

[@FrostDK98]

That'd be very hard to do since mcu characters are changing powerlevels regularly. For example, Thor should beat black adam but going off of movie feats, Black adam obliterates mcu thor. Makes thor look like the God of weapons and black adam the true God of thunder. Hulk's another example of major depowering

[@closegripbenchpress489]

@@FrostDK98 how is thor beating black adam if you yourselve stated he obliterates thor?

[@FrostDK98]

@@closegripbenchpress489 *MCU Thor. Comics thor scales too high for black adam.

[@closegripbenchpress489]

@@FrostDK98 why would thor scale too high for adam

[@crossfire6558]

Dr strange is basically a glass canon, one hard hit he is done

[@isaacsartstudio2478]

Great analysis Bro you did well. After watching Black Adam i thought Fate was weak or rather nerfed because it wasn't his movie and the directors would want Black Adam to save the day, but after your analysis I could see clearly he was the most powerful character in the movie choosing to sacrifice himself for his friends. I hope DC brings him back in future movies.

[@brandonsisco7081]

I agree with everything

[@thimis6288]

Someday you should do a tier list with mcu and dceu scaling so we can see how they scale to each other Edit: or even add a Star Wars part so we can see how the verses scale

[@memelord6335]

That concept has always interested me because although non Canon we've seen characters like starkiller pulling an entire Star Destroyer using just the force not with the help of any other ship or anything like that so that always got me thinking do they scale even just a little bit to superheroes🤔

[@thebteamm]

Me, Garrick and others in his server have tried to make one before but it just got out of hand. Maybe we’ll try it again together one day. That said I did make one with other friends after Thor 4.

[@FrostDK98]

Fantastic review my friend. Love to see an accurate in-depth analysis!

[@KeyIssues]

Thank you!

[@ItsButterBean1020]

It's worth noting that Black Adam is implied to have destroyed the moon in a possible future Fate views in the comic tie in which is wild

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

Wow interesting , so black Adam is stronger the pre mother box revived Superman

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

My uncle after 3 shots of Patron can solo both at the same time

[@memelord6335]

Bro we must be related, me too!

[@castlekingside76]

Well that sucks. Dr Fate and Strange jumped my drunk uncle. He did not win.

[@trevorthai1685]

This battle is totally even, because in the comics both Fate & Strange are ridiculously powerful magic users who can warp reality, time and move/observe dimensions and other universes, and have battled several overpowered cosmic entities with their own feats. In this fight, it just depends on the plot and who has the slight first advantage over the other. They might even battle to a standstill and end in a draw. I also think Dr.Fate deserves his own solo movie after his appearance in Black Adam!!

[@yoni5896]

Honestly I could see them doing a show on dr. Fate

[@Yuh_zhimmy]

Nah bruh. Fr fate scales way higher in the comics compared to dr strange, and has better feats.

[@dc4690]

Na...Dr.Strange takes Fate out in his sleep.

[@dc4690]

Well...If I had control over the use of his abilities I should say...As opposed to whoever makes those decisions in his movies. Then yea no doubt.Fate and whoever else u can come up with that has a physical body. Piece of cake,in his sleep.

[@BlackLeonardoMusic]

@@dc4690 Strange borrows his powers and in the comics currently he's not nearly as powerful as he used to be say 20 years ago so nah. Nabu is a Lord of Order. Kent by himself like someone said is already as powerful as Strange.

[@Antonio-bb3qt]

Have fun watching your comic book videos. Especially your Invincible character history. It would make my day if you did a character history of Kang because I have no idea what make shim so strong. You explain everything so well. Have a nice day

[@juggernaut4898]

Dr Fate would know everything Dr Strange will do before he does it. He wasn't even knocked out by Sabbac's hell fire, and he has God like powers. Dr Fate is on a much higher level.

[@Veedkade123]

Maybe Sabbac is a weak villain he seems weaker than Steppen Wolf

[@juggernaut4898]

@@Veedkade123 No he's weaker than rocket racoon

[@leozoka.4204]

Dr Strange closed fissures in the fabric of reality in NWH. Dr Strange stomps

[@juggernaut4898]

@@leozoka.4204 Does Dr strange have God power? NO! HE DON'T. Dr Fate slaughters him

[@leozoka.4204]

@@juggernaut4898 Lol, that's it? Dr Strange fought Thanos using four infinity stones and the power stone alone wipes everything demonstrated in the DCEU lol

[@amirlp27]

All your points are good, but you forgot 1 thing. Strange has morals. Fate doesn't. If he sees Strange as a threat to order, he'll kill Strange without hesitation. And he's just stronger so Strange can't do anything about it even if he tried to save himself. But overall love the video man.

[@wilkencekengole8882]

Yea, finally someone explained. And you might forgot to say that, Kent Nelson without even the helmet of Fate, he is a powerful sorcerer himself. For instance, we saw in Black Adam, he hides the helmet of Fate in something which looks like a parallel dimension accessible only using his magic. So on top of the helmet of Fate, he has his own magic. And I'll say this, The fact he could magically act in three places at once just show how powerful he is. He was saving Teth Adam, at the same time fighting Sabbac, at the same time holding the shield up.

[@MandatoryFruit]

PRAYING that Fate didn't actually die and he was actually just banished to hell or something. Pierce Brosnan is way too good as Fate just for one movie.

[@daltonmortimer7735]

I'm not even sure the mirror dimension acts as a win condition for Strange, Fate can teleport which seems fairly comparable to the portals of the sling ring and thanks to Multiverse of Madness we know that the mirror dimension unifies reflections and can be escaped through them, yes it required the ability to heal afterwards but as stated Fate's durability is magically augmented

[@daltonmortimer7735]

@@coreywilson8161 what?

[@daltonmortimer7735]

@@coreywilson8161 what does that mean?

[@daltonmortimer7735]

@@coreywilson8161 there's no reason to assume that, 1. Fate's portals are comparable to Strange's 2. Again we know it's possible to escape through reflections 3. Fate can both read minds and see the future so that gives Fate the opportunity to prepare/prevent Strange from using it in the first place 4. We know from NWH that even in the mirror dimension it's not necessarily an insta-win button and it can be turned on him even without magic if you give it enough forethought ( which again foreknowledge+mind reading) 4. If Fate duplicates himself only one of the duplicits has to be outside the mirror dimension to continue the fight

[@daltonmortimer7735]

@@coreywilson8161 my point is it wouldn't matter because at best it changes the battlefield but it's still not a win condition Let's run the scenarios Scenario 1. Strange conjures the mirror dimension, Fate opens a portal of his own, it amounts to little more than a game of hot potato 2. Strange conjures mirror dimension , Fate uses reflections to get out, irrelevant again 3. Fate and Strange duel inside the mirror dimension , which only changes the battlefield, BFR only counts as a win if the opponent is rendered impotent there 4. Strange manages to portal out but Fate duplicates , the battle continues

[@daltonmortimer7735]

@@coreywilson8161 are you actually reading my responses I don't fucking care about your BFR because I've explained several times why changing the battlefield wouldn't be a win condition and even explained at least one way Fate wouldn't be removed ( the duplicits) just because you've memorized the term " battlefield removal" doesn't mean you don't have to think about it therafter You're in an argument dude you have to be prepared to actually ADDRESS counterarguments rather than mindlessly repeat psuedo intellectual terminology over and over

[@TeckNeeX]

Fate also has a massive strength advantage that can one shot strange

[@Zhello79]

Yep. He has superhuman strength and durability.

[@Axel-nm7st]

Yet got killed, literally did nothing in the movie and stated himself that his power cannot defeat sabaac lmao

[@reddolphin8663]

@@Axel-nm7st that just means the characters he's going up against are just that strong.

[@Axel-nm7st]

@@reddolphin8663 He can’t even defeat Black Adam. It doesn’t lmao, he has nearly 0 feats, Hawkman states him to have God level powers, and that’s clearly not shown anywhere in the movie. This same Black Adam, got hurt badly by a missile and knocked out by it as well, and Black Adam nearly has no feats as well apart from killing sabaac who we have no idea how strong he is, but even he was being contained by Hawkman lol

[@Axel-nm7st]

@@reddolphin8663 Dr strange fought on par with Thanos using 4 infinity stones at once which grant him omnipotent power (stated by multiple scans), and turned a Black Hole into Butterflies.🍷🗿

[@Kid_Cozmic]

This is why I follow you, I love how u do your death battles, you show in depth evidence as well as feats to match those evidence you are a huge inspiration for my tiktok and I cant wait to see more W videos. Keep up the grind man you are doing amazing

[@KeyIssues]

Really appreciate the kind words! Good luck with the TikTok. What’s your @?

[@danielendless]

Because of characters like The Flash and Superman, DC's been winning more match ups than they reasonably should Can't really beat people who can live a million years during your blink

[@madambutterfly1997]

Considering how much objectively better written Black Adam was compared to Multiverse of Madness, should we even bother with the feats of our two magic users

[@mueggsy]

*subjectively, not objectively

[@SadnessB4Madness]

Did you really say BA was better written? 💀

[@DefaultMii]

@@SadnessB4Madness my first thought

[@KiyoKami_]

@@SadnessB4Madness to be honest I thought it was written better as well I was so bored watching doctor strange but with black adam I enjoyed it's characters some of its jokes and the story to some extent.

[@SadnessB4Madness]

@@KiyoKami_ got to love DC fans and the key jangling 💪

[@matthewgabinete605]

I admit that Fate is more powerful and wins overall, but I'm surprised you didn't mention a single ability that Strange pulled up in Multiverse of Madness. he basically demonstrated so many new spells there-

[@sidecharacter3193]

That’s because multiverse of madness didn’t really give strange any good feats Wanda was the one that got the huge power up, strange didn’t His new spells were cool but none of them were impressive compared to his past abilities

[@joyalbose5850]

Dr Strange needs to cast a spell but Dr fate don't need any spells❤️🔥

[@masdandaniel8509]

Yeah!

[@masdandaniel8509]

Yeah!

[@emmanueldedmon6690]

Keep up the good work

[@turnerbrawley4715]

Keep up the great content 👏

[@KeyIssues]

Thanks dude

[@turnerbrawley4715]

@@KeyIssues if doctor strange had the time stone and the darkhold how would he fair against fate?

[@j.j.6461]

I appreciate your efforts on this 1v1

[@alukoifeoluwa1810]

man I love your explanations and breaking or scaling of power levels that's absolute brilliancy bro, please do more.🤗🤗

[@6Rudolph6Shitler6]

Good idea using the cam version to beat others to the punch with this type of video, lol

[@cherechesalexdaniel811]

Bruh Dr Fate is the movie equivalent of the badass anime old guy trope.

[@mattthestormtrooper3239]

Doctor Fate would crush Doctor Strange no doubt, but the likely outcome would be them being allies rather than fighting.

[@Axel-nm7st]

No Lmao? Have you even watched the movie, Fate was practically useless and Dr strange turned a Black hole into butterflies

[@mattthestormtrooper3239]

@@Axel-nm7st You should probably watch the video first.

[@Axel-nm7st]

@@mattthestormtrooper3239 I did watch the video Lmao, he’s scaling off other characters that’s completely in accurate

[@gleds8677]

@@Axel-nm7st Exactly he forgot the fact that thanos used the soul and power stone to remove Dr strange clones.

[@Axel-nm7st]

@@gleds8677 Literally

[@MercyKnights]

This was a dope vs

[@killahky2678]

Key whenever u get a chance bro, could u do a video of who u think would win between their comic book versions?

[@thefanboy2008]

Dr Fate wins. In the Black Adam film, Hackman describes Dr Fate as a being with god level power.

[@koshow1490]

Before I even watch this the whole way through I'm backing up my boi Dr fate

[@KeyIssues]

Respect

[@koshow1490]

@@KeyIssues honest de God don't know if I'll get another chance de say this, but thanks you for the content you make

[@KeyIssues]

@@koshow1490 appreciate that!

[@fuqsamsung4481]

Didn't spiderman figure out the mirror dimensions? So Dr fate wouldn't be trapped in there

[@Pabiis]

Yeah

[@Aureilius2112]

I really feel you’re stretching when you scale steppenwolf to moon level because of a remark from a director several movies before his introduction.

[@HeatForce]

Imo i think all feats together with scaling, Strange should come out on top but it'll be tough. If you only consider the feats of the Doctor Strange origin movie then Fate wins easily.

[@ROEb0t17]

I agree with the vid largely. The only disagreement is the point about the only magic can defeat magic. This kinda seems like something that was just a comment from sivana and I believe while in ur black adam vs supes vid u brought up points to show this, i think there's also anti-feats contradicting this. They largely revolve around wonder woman. She's also magic and a god and she gets beaten by supes who is not magic. Additionally if u found new gods as not magic then steppenwolf also beats her. Also, atom smasher, cyclone and hawkman being unable to hurt black adam as compared to dr fate can very well be explained by dr fate being notably stronger than the other 3. In general, I feel like the one statement from sivana (who isn't an all knowing or super informed character like the wizard) shouldn't be taken as concrete fact. At least until it gets retconned in another movie 😒. All in all, great vid.

[@G-LukeJA]

Can you do a breakdown on the buffs that Zeus's Thunderbolt offers in the MCU? It clearly amped Valkyrie to be relative to post Infinity War Thor, when she was only slightly above pre Awakening Thor in Ragnarok. Also gave Thor the ability to grant his power to others

[@gojipan]

Hey are you gonna do a how powerful is dceu batman vid?

[@lazaroross9197]

Fate would wipe the floor with strange, dr fate is the strongest magic person in all comics this battle wouldn’t be close only if they nerf Fate as they did in the adam movie

[@MrMarkwill62]

That was a lot of talking to say that Dr Fate could have beat the evil God on his own, but instead evened up the fight by taking on additional things (free Black Adam, and put and hold the barrier) so he could not win and complete the ultimate goal to stop the evil God

[@Demonoicgamer666]

In terms of the movie adaptation dr strange has shown more impressive magical abilities and he fought a 4 infinity stone gauntlet so in a fight I have to say dr strange.

[@JJkidstv1]

If Dr. fate was teleported into the MCU he would be the strongest character there and whoever Faced him would get solod easily

[@justinsarfo829]

There are several characters that would body him in the MCU.

[@wambokodavid7109]

Ironman alone will smoke him... hell, Hawkeye will

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

@@justinsarfo829 Lol Bullshit. Living tribuneral is the only one to come close.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

@@wambokodavid7109 Pfft Iron-man is fucking weak

[@wambokodavid7109]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 whatever makes you sleep better at night 🤷

[@itsamebenjamintennyson1230]

There are some points that help Dr Strange in this battle. 1) Odin was stated to be able to shatter planets and Thor is stronger than Odin and Thanos is stronger than Thor and Dr Strange's spells could hold Thanos untill Thanos used the Power stone and the Mind stone so I don't know how much of that feat was raw power, and then the crimson bands could also hold down Thanos. 2) Black Adam being able to destroy the world could also mean that he would destroy the surface of the planet or just the civilisations but if you want to scale him to planet level then I think you should also do that for the MCU characters. I also don't know how serious Black Adam was when Dr Fate was trying to hold him down, he wasn't really struggling that much and wasn't trying to move that much either, so I don't know if you can give Dr Fate strength that is around that level, but if you are then MCU characters should have that kind of scaling too. 3) If I remember correctly DCEU characters are considered relativistic or FTL because of the Man of Steel feat and Superman's heat vision right? Then I think Thor being able to save Loki from a blackhole like thing and Thor being able to react to Destroyer's beams should also be considered. And the Makkari statements can be used but we can use more statements and feats like these for both MCU and DCEU, like Black Adam struggling to stop a bullet and Wonder Women being hit by a bullet. But it won't matter if you are equalising speed. 4) Why are we not giving Dr Strange the Time stone? Dr Strange and Dr Fate can use equipments so I thought Dr Strange would have the time stone.

[@Bypas_]

Big Fax+W

[@jesraeljaydagbay3282]

Dr. Strange can fortify his mind to avoid Fate from reading it, but without the time stone, Dr. Fate wins by reading the future, which Strange can't.

[@gslinger19]

I realize this would be a lot of work, but could you do one with the main comic versions?

[@sammckinnon8570]

I like how anytime fate “loses” it could just be by choice as it is “not his fate”

[@lcyrus7224]

Regardless of who win, Dr Fate did a better demonstration of how mage should fight in the superhero universes better than Dr Strange did with 2 movies.

[@djungelskogmemes]

Theres no proper way that mages (their sorcerer's, theres a difference) should fight in superhero movies, if there was, then most wizard character fighting styles would be the same and would get boring to watch easily.

[@svensayre1189]

according to who ??? according to you ??? lmao

[@Mi6_Cuffee]

Put it this way Dr Strange has been a round movie wise for a while Dr Fate just showed up and he’s already being placed against Strange just goes to show that deep everyone knows whose more powerful and would win once DCEU Fate gets more feats this wont be a topic of discussion as of right now let the MCU fans feel they have won Because at the end of the day only one Doctor can truly change Fate

[@KeyIssues]

Idk if any fandom wins, ya know? We just make fun videos. Would def like to see more Fate in the future, maybe a prequel or something.

[@wambokodavid7109]

A doctor who couldn't control his fate????yeah what a Chad. strange is the only doctor here.

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@KeyIssuesMCU fandom wants to be winner at everything and they think that Thor solos whole Justice league and even darkseid himself

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@wambokodavid7109did you even watch the movie? He wanted to die

[@JohnDoe-ou7mq]

bro when you said it takes more than plant busting power to break out the mirror dimension than showed thanos using only the power stone to break the mirror dimension 👁👄👁

[@erikbrown2682]

A rare unbias opinion nice work

[@happysavage9164]

can you make a how powerful is fox studios wolverine video

[@sammarquez6167]

when we gonna get a black adam vs thor n a dceu marvel tier list

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

4:36 hey does anyone know where this statement is from?

[@joelwhitaker1574]

thank you for just equalizing speed. fights where speed stomps are just boring so thank you

[@purplebugfoot456]

You guys should power scale Werewolf by Night and Elsa Bloodstone

[@dark-gaming--8232]

Wall Level

[@infamousof3008]

Do the Justice society vs Wanda with speed equalized?

[@gregorybuttari8651]

Dr.Fate would have the advantage in the mystic pissing contest ... Fate is empowered by a Lord of Order... But conditions may vary .. would like to see it played out.

[@Anti-Simping]

As a MARVEL fan, even I have to admit live action Dr Fate in BLACK ADAM seemed to be a higher notch of magic wielder (with SUPER-STRENGTH too) than MCU Dr Strange, however Dr Strange seems to be more tricky and elusive and would give Fate a prolong battle. Strange's best move (if he has the Time Stone) would be to trap himself with Dr Fate in a Time Loop, effectively creating a stalemate, or somehow getting the helmet off of Doctor Fates head (which seems unlikely since Dr Fate smartly doesn't fight close up...... he uses his clones up close.) Winner: Dr Fate 🤬

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Damn straight! Marvel is pathetically weak in comparison to Fate

[@manofiron5934]

​@@dcmastermindfirst9418 lmao

[@amobieltjarr7894]

Please do Shangchi vs Green lanterns The two ring users in the two comic universe

[@madambutterfly1997]

Which gods are you referring to the old gods of Earth, or the new gods of Apocalypse?

[@hxcbmxallday]

Please make a how strong is dceu Hawkman video if you have the time

[@mattthestormtrooper3239]

*How about a Strange Supreme Vs Doctor Fate battle?*

[@Mi6_Cuffee]

A way better match up but at the same time just using Dr fate from the movies in that match up is unfair he doesn’t display enough feats an comic Dr fate might still be beyond that

[@kokiheavymetal]

We had to be honest about it, everyone knows that Strange it’s so popular because the movies, but in terms of how powerful could be both characters, Fate is the most powerful between both, Strange depends of his amulets like Agamoto eye, his ring, his cape and his knowledge about magic, he’s skillful and full of tricks under his sleeve, but Fate has the power of a god a freaking god, while Strange can see future through time stone, that’s an ability inherent to Fate powers without the need of a stone, just touching his helmet it’s enough for him, as i said before, Fate powers are the powers of a god and that’s enough to pass Strange powers.

[@Kid_Cozmic]

W, i was agreeing this on my tiktok and I also stated Fate wins

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

Damn I didn't know that DCEU had it's own comics, it's so cool and they are all canon!

[@KeyIssues]

They're all pretty good!

[@martinstephenson9801]

I didn't know Dr Fate used speed in Black Adam, interesting.

[@stannardjoshuaable]

You shot stepinwolf as who they defeated, however in Zac Snyder justice league, it was Darkseid

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

He taught that Joostice league was canon but the flash changed it

[@AvroBellow]

Dr. Fate could solo the entire Justice League with one hand tied behind his back. The only superheroes in DC who are at his level are the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott) and of course, The Spectre.

[@zepeda201]

Hawkman vs Aquaman please

[@sergperez5484]

I get what you are trying to say, but I feel like a detail alot of MCU powerscalers over look is that higher tier characters scale much closer to the power stone, captain marvel was able to survive the full force of the power stone with no injury, while she was physically superior to thanos, it wasn’t by an exponential degree that would be teratons to ninatons, that should make characters like thanos, strange, Thor, hulk at least planet to large planet scaling not too much lower than the power stone

[@joekent5675]

I can see what you're saying but you're forgetting that CM was tapping into the stones, making her superior nd immovable. That's why Thanos looked at the glove and took the power stone out.

[@sergperez5484]

@@joekent5675 I know, but she wasn’t THAT much stronger, at least not to the point of thanos being at least small country level, and carol tanking large planet levels of power, that gap should make thanos at LEAST moon level to planetary

[@wandagrey2528]

Can you make a video about Scarlet Witch vs Phoenix From the movies i mean both are insane Phoenix is stated to be the spark that gave life to the universe While wanda is stated to destroy the cosmos and destroyed the darkhold in every universe and stand multiversal punches from america chavez stated by the writer of MOM

[@joshuaaboo4767]

The russo's confirmed Strange and Thanos were going full power against each other. So you can scale Strange that high he also contained a reality shattering spell and held the multiverse from tearing with his magic.

[@BruceWayne-xq7bb]

do Snyderverse Batman(BVS,ZSJL) vs Hawkman(DCEU)

[@Nika-potter]

If the sling ring could help spiderman escape the mirror dimension I assume strange can simply teleport out

[@KeyIssues]

We don’t know if he can teleport between dimensions or not

[@uchihabomber1296]

Dr.Fate in the comics really is ridiculous fr but I’d say so is Dr.Strange too with that much magic so honestly idk. In my opinion when it comes to this fight I think it’s important to use the comic books as a reference for discussion then the movies since those are where the real abilities are plus they scale much higher. Although based on Movies I feel like it’s unfair since Dr.Fate just showed up compared to Dr.Strange who has much more screen time

[@crimson1265]

21:45 me calculating how much time I have to attempt an event that already ended

[@dark-gaming--8232]

Imagine if these characters teamed up

[@reimarc6606]

Dr Fate can just shrug that mirror dimension

[@TrashCanOdor]

There’s no proof of that

[@ottery2242]

@@TrashCanOdor Spiderman broke off the mirror dimension and even wanda. So I think fate can handle himself in the mirror dimension.

[@Nate-vd2ji]

It's questionable whether DCEU characters scale above MCU characters. They are both around island and have ways to go higher. If you want to use Makkari for a speed cap, you have to do similarly for the DCEU with the Flash. the Flash has stated that only when reaching the speed of light, stange effects occur around him. No effects of such were visble when fighting Superman and Wonder woman , It's questionable whether they can actualy scale to FTL.

[@bongaloyiso6152]

Dr Strange fought wanda who has magic that can destroy the Multiverse in multiverse of madness and may more better physical stats showing in MOM as a Zombie but hay it's your take on it which agree on to a certain degree. Ow sorcerers can resist telepathy as shown in Mom as Wang implied. So minus that and strange has a photographical memory and outsmarted beings with over thousands of years of battle experience so🤔 all in of this happened in the movie. And finally. Saying fate is faster is not being fair to Dr strange who reacted to far stranger wanda than the one that can react to Miss Marvel photon blastes.Dr Fate getting out speed by black adam when a gun was fired to that kid in the movie , all Im saying is this magic fight requires a full break down of spells,stats and resistances shown in their respective movie to not seem as the other ones desreguarded.🤔Anyways great video🙂😌♥️

[@jefferickson8493]

Couldn't Dr Fate Teleport out of the mirror dimension though? Also, the sling ring is very powerful... But now it's a running joke Dr Strange can't even keep a hold of it... GG Marvel in making a smart character look dumb.

[@KeyIssues]

Dunno if he can teleport in and out of other dimensions

[@jefferickson8493]

@@KeyIssues I feel like if mcu portals can, like sling rings, then other teleport would work. Like when Thanos teleports the black order out of the asgardian ship, or into Wakanda on his own, or to Titan; also Hela"s teleportation out of Hel. Unless that was just like a gateway out of there she was able to walk out using...🤷‍♂️

[@jefferickson8493]

So I feel like teleportation is the key in and out of there, unless a simple sling ring is more powerful than the space stone, an infinity stone. In my head canon Thanos just used the other stones to bust the dimension around him as it was more of a prison coming around him, and he can either teleport out if he realized what it was, or just be all bad a** and use the power stone and smash his way outta there like a kid having fun with his new toys. I doubt Fate could bust the mirror dimension or control everything in there like dark dimension magic users (ie the Ancient One), but to me makes sense that he could teleport out of there just like he could teleport to other places. But if I'm wrong, I'd love to be corrected!! @Key Issues

[@Darkwarlord1533]

This is not even fair. Strange has had two solo outings and multiple guest spots to flesh out his punching power. Just from what we've seen, there is no argument that Strange runs Dr Fate's shit. Mirror Dimension is too broken. I will just add that Dr Fate's showing was pretty serviceable. (He held off Black Adam and Sabboc by himself~the former two are peers to Snyderman. He also was able to telepathically communicate with BA at the bottom of the ocean, while fighting Sabboc and maintaining a barrier to keep the JSA members at bay)

[@KeyIssues]

*Scar from the lion king voice* “Life’s not fair… is it?”

[@edgar0672]

Do JSA vs Justice League who would win MCU or DCEU

[@scottmcley5111]

Don't forget Stranges Eye of Agamotto

[@AvatarM685]

question, you guys have stated in your doctor strange video that stephen's full power went up against thano's full power. & in the thor video stated that the power stone & space stone alone have small-large planet level feats. using this, wouldn't doctor strange be planetary, or at least moon level in power? interested in what you have to say about that.

[@sidecharacter3193]

Probably not because strange was only able to match thanos because of hax to protect himself But non of his attacks have damage capabilities like the stones

[@AvatarM685]

@@sidecharacter3193 sure, I can understand that for some of the spells, like the transmutation spell making everything into butterflies. but what about the mirror dimension? that tanked a hit from the power stone which could destroy planets "like wheat in a field". if thanos was using full power, shouldn't that be a durability feat for the mirror dimesion?

[@sidecharacter3193]

@@AvatarM685 it could be but at least the way I and I think others interpreted that scene was that he was just transferring the blast into the dimension Like using it as battle field removal But it could be a durability feat but that’s still wouldn’t make strange himself moon level

[@ryanRosenblatt]

What about Thanos sending a black hole made out of the broken mirror dimension that he just stopped and turned into butterflies.

[@Pilyluisfer]

You do know that not all black holes are the same, right? That little hole is simply irrelevant

[@ryanRosenblatt]

@@Pilyluisfer You right

[@ejcabalan4263]

Dr fate vs scarlet witch please

[@TheDollhouseKiller]

I agree with this outcome