Doctor Who 12x8 REACTION!! "The Haunting of Villa Diodati"

[@BlindWave]

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[@bananasaregood8655]

What's next for your doctor who reactions when you have finished series 12??

[@ryanpollard1166]

'The Haunting of Villa Diodati' might be my favourite episode of Series 12 so far, being a perfect mixture of a historical haunted house story and a Cyberman story all in one. The concept was sound, and executed really well, plus the Doctor was faced with a situation she couldn’t sonic straight away. The design and acting of the Lone Cyberman Ashad was really effective and creepy, showcasing just how menacing the Cybermen can be. I had a strong feeling that this episode was going to pull a 'Utopia'/'Face the Raven' style trick and be a massive glorified prologue for the final two episodes!

[@shaicry]

that wasn’t a new power, it was the same thing as when 11 gave james corden all the information via mind bump. it’s not that 13 can show you your death, she just knows how he dies bc he’s a historical figure

[@shauntempley9757]

The Doctor actually does know the deaths of people she encounters. It is not a TARDIS gift. It is a Time Lord ability.

[@bleares]

@@shauntempley9757 Hey do you mind linking a source? I just find this unlikely, considering they couldn't anticipate the deaths of any of their companions

[@shauntempley9757]

@@bleares It is implicit each time the Doctor arrives anywhere. Each Incarnation sees what is happening, what will happen and what could happen. It is why Donna had issues. It was this innate ability that caused it, because the human mind is incapable of doing this.

[@Kephy_]

@@shauntempley9757 It's your theory but it doesn't mean it's true

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

Graham remains the most logical and realistic character

[@GedUK]

Shelley and Byron are two of Britain's greatest poets. Byron in fact was Ada Lovelace's father, who the Doctor met in the Spyfall episodes at the start of the season. The final poem at the end is from Byron's poem 'Darkness', and there's bit of his and Shelley's poetry dotted about the episode.

[@Wolf6119]

Yeah, the Doctor even mentions Ada to Byron in this episode, but I don't think the guys were really connecting any of those dots lol For reference of their most obvious and well-known works; - Mary Shelley is of course the author of Frankenstein (also subtitled as "The Modern Prometheus", which is what she calls the Cyberman in this episode.) - Percy Shelley was a very prolific poet. It's a bit harder to say which of his poems would be the most recognizable to people, but I imagine everyone knows at least one of his works, like "Ozymandias" or "Music, when soft voices die". - Lord Byron was an all around adventurer/gentleman/sex bomb type of guy, probably best known for writing Don Juan. - Byron also wrote an unfinished novel which basically laid the groundwork for the original Vampire craze, and it was Polidori who later refined Byron's concept and basically created the idea of a pale, aristocratic blood-drinker that would eventually be further crystalized as Dracula by Bram Stoker.

[@FortoFight]

@@Wolf6119 Before I saw this episode I was hoping that they'd reference Ada, it would be pretty lacking in self-awareness if they hadn't mentioned it tbh.

[@shauntempley9757]

Byron is also yet to write a specific work that inspires Ghandi in India. It has direct consequences in WW2, where India has yet to decide whether to fight for Britain, or the Nazis. Without him, this point in history would change. Japan and the Nazis would have linked up, since Japan invaded Burma. The result would have been disastrous. Japan could even have turned its eyes to Australia and New Zealand more strongly than it actually did.

[@Cs-cp6vo]

@@Wolf6119 I definitely didn’t

[@hilzabub]

The "showing death" thing only works because the Doctor knows how Shelley died. I doubt she can show any random person their death. His death was famous.

[@davidrandall3978]

Coedarhydyglyn, in Cardiff, is no stranger to the Whoniverse. Serving as Villa Diodati here, it’s also been: Rise of the Cybermen, The Age of Steel, Doomsday: The Tyler Residence Children of Earth (TW): Prime Minster’s Office The Empty Planet (SJA): Ealing Circle Nature Reserve The Power of Three: Brian’s office The Angels Take Manhattan: Grayle’s Mansion (interior)

[@firefly24601]

Farewell, Fletcher. Your eye-rolling was legendary, and like Salad Man you were gone too soon....

[@jeckjeck3119]

Legends die too fast.

[@christianwise637]

@@jeckjeck3119 Especially in Chibnall's Who

[@ianchesterton8003]

eat mah salud

[@venus1362]

Ironic that you said you can “do without Frankenstein” when that story basically kickstarted the science fiction genre. This show might not even exist if that book wasn’t written.

[@DasKame]

Amen

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

No Frankenstein, no Doctor Who. Meaning this is the most important episode of the series...

[@kofrixguia4105]

So thirteenth is right! If in reality, cyber man did attack the OG writer of Frankenstein or his death is a bit early then it’ll create a ripple that’ll lead to DW not existing

[@AkumaGekido]

Even without Frankenstein, I'm pretty sure sci-fi would still exist. It'd just have a different starting point.

[@ketterdama]

3:48 I thought that was obvious Yaz was talking about the Doctor

[@sladeclegane9709]

It was.

[@HaaruteLIVE]

I'm a big fan of Dark 13 in this episode actually! I think it's very interesting for her character, where she's all smiles until she's put in a position where there's No Good Options and she's forced to do something she doesn't want to, so she lashes out. It's pretty much the most interesting place you can put a goody two-shoes like that in, I think.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

We know who Lord Byron is, he’s a famous historical figure, an English poet considered to be one of the leading figures of romanticism.

[@AlephSharp]

He's also Ada Lovelace's father, who we met at the start of the season

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Aleph Sharp I was trying not to state this also obvious fact.

[@AlephSharp]

@@ripleyjlawman.3162 sorry

[@Sara-ub5ic]

this episode is easily one of my favourite cyberman episodes. it's really well written and performed.

[@lillym.4093]

this is definitely my favorite episode of the season, and is probably up there with my favorite episodes of the whole show tbh. (also yaz is obviously talking about the doctor, and my theory for why some people don't seem to grasp this is that they either don't know what the word "enigma" means, or that they just have a very heteronormative mindset.)

[@uggggggghhhhh]

@dr103 same, it reduces them down to just another chick being into the doctor.

[@Domino2097]

I took it as Yaz was talking about the Doctor she's putting herself in danger like two episodes ago to try and impress the Doctor cause she fancies her

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

It’s so obvious, and anyone who couldn’t see it must be stupid.

[@kylemccrory2031]

They released the official script for the episode, which confirms it

[@SteelSpurs]

@@ripleyjlawman.3162 “Anyone who couldn’t see it must be stupid.” How loving...

[@Wolf6119]

Geez, it's weird to think that two weeks from now we're just gonna be... done with Doctor Who. Wednesday has been "Doctor Who Day” in my mind for 3 whole years now. Capaldi was still the Doctor when they started this. Crazy to think it's almost over.

[@jeckjeck3119]

Hopefully they will do Honest doctor who trailers.

[@strawberrybudz8578]

Do u think they’ll react to the new season of doctor who

[@sethgibson5148]

@@strawberrybudz8578 I would think they would. They would just have Aaron's wife with them as well.

[@PWGregory]

"I could do without Frankenstein." Not really, considering how influential the story is towards, you know, all of modern science-fiction.

[@t123a698]

Also don’t forget the sleepwalker - Polidori. He wrote The Vampyre, which changed the portrayal of vampires into what they are written as today & kickstarted the genre. Yeah, Polidori’s responsible for Twilight. He based his vampire on Byron. Polidari was the first to make a vampire into an enigmatic, charming & good looking high-ranking figure. Started the vampire craze in literature & theatre which almost 80 years later led Bram Stoker to write Dracula. These four ppl, and Byron’s kid (Software) and Mary’s parents (esp her mum) changed the world, so to speak, and are responsible for the path that led to the ‘modern’ world.

[@Wolf6119]

The Doctor's mini speech about her being at the summit of the supposedly "Flat" team and having to make impossible decisions was interesting. It's definitely a step in the right direction I think, because a lot of people (Eric included lol) felt like 13 was missing a lot of the gravitas that her former incarnations all had, and she never really seemed to rise to a severe situation with matching severity in the same way. I think they were aiming for something like that this time, and it wasn't a bad speech, it just felt a little out of nowhere and hectic, I guess? Honestly "hectic" is a word which I think you could use to describe most of Jodie's run so far, really. There's very little breathing room in any of her scenes, and the camera is always so anxiously hugging people's faces too, it makes it hard to just let a dramatic moment set in.

[@pjgs4933]

I think this episode was really well directed. Much better than most

[@ABrecher]

Yeah it was weird to hear Eric criticize one of the directing choices here, when this had some of the best direction in the entire series.

[@Triskaan]

I was a bit lukewarm to this episode at first personally, but the more I think about it, the more I realize it might be my absolute favorite of the season.

[@taimurmuggo1634]

Good episode imo and my personal favorite of the season. The spooky atmosphere really adds a lot to this story ..the humor also works more often then not which is something I can’t say about other episodes in Jodie’s era so far. I love the Lone Cyberman.. the idea of a half converted Cyberman who is fueled by his negative emotions is really interesting ..the actor also does a good job conveying the anger and menace of the character. I’m glad this season we got to see a bit of 13’s steelier side ..her speech to her “fam” about the team structure being flat to an extent was well done, ultimately it’s up to her to make the tough decisions and It gives 13 a bit more dimension ( even though she is sadly my least favorite Doctor of the modern era so far). I can’t believe you guys are going to be caught up after 2 more episodes..it’s been a hell of a 3 year journey !!.

[@kierancampbell343]

The physic paper also didn't work on one of the council guys from the doctor Clara story because he didnt have a imagination

[@shaicry]

it also didn’t work when 11 claimed he was a responsible adult bc “it was too big a lie” lol

[@galonski64]

@@shaicry that joke still gives me a laugh

[@gregstephens]

Nor on Shakespeare due to him being a genius.

[@mr.scarlo2234]

And the guy from Torchwood as he had physic paper training.

[@SpectrumStorms]

TFW you know in the BF audios, the 8th Doctor also meets Mary Shelley on the night she created Frankenstein and later ends up being a companion, encountering another lone cyberman.

[@lichcoin6144]

I know, and that makes me wonder which specific time-traveling alteration ended up moving like a domino effect until it rewrote those events with 8th...unless Thirteen really did landed in another universe after regenerating like some theories posit.

[@emmybm15]

Eric: "Who's Yaz talking about?" Me: 👀😅

[@emmybm15]

Should I have included 💙💙 (two blue hearts) to make it a bit more obvious?

[@kamenwaticlients]

@@emmybm15 I've seen every episode and yet can't remember who she is talking about.

[@Domihork]

They're really oblivious to these things... Remember when they called Crowley and Aziraphale "friends"? Even they had been called "boyfriend" IN the show. So something as subtle as this is really gonna go unnoticed by them.

[@sylveandescapism7502]

“Probably like her sister” I-

[@sylveandescapism7502]

But hey perhaps I’m biased as you may tell based on my profile pic

[@cutthr0atjake]

With "The North" comments, Byron & his chums are Lannister's whilst The Doctor is a Stark. I hope that explains our North / South Divide. :-D

[@stuartarmstrong5190]

Aaron - how can you forget James Corden's (i.e. Craig's) baby's name? It's Alfie, aka STORMAGEDDON, DARK LORD OF ALL!!!!!

[@ianchesterton8003]

yaz was def talking about the doc

[@evildeathcuddles886]

"Let's see... Who in Yaz's life is enigmatic?" "... Her sister!"

[@prof.evilpictures8696]

You guys need to react to Years and Years!! It’s only 6 episodes and it’s incredible!

[@Time-lord-jedi]

One thing love about 13 is that in this seson she's slipping. Her anger is slipping though and I love it so much

[@jpwphoenix1701]

It's funny you said the Cybermen are like the Borg. There was actually a really cool IDW comic crossover during Matt Smith's era where the 11th Doctor, Rory and Amy end up on the Enterprise-D. As the story progresses, the Cybermen turn-up and then team-up with the Borg. There are some really cool assimilated Borg Cybermen. Obviously, the Doctor, Rory and Amy manage to defeat them in the end with the help of Captain Picard and crew. The whole thing was really well-done and a dream for someone like me who's been a fan of both franchises all his life.

[@acetrainer44]

Doctor Who is a lot like Clone Wars...it's meant to be appealing to kids, and then there's neck snapping and talking of slitting a baby's throat

[@Ross-in3gy]

I’ve not seen the reaction, but I saw the thumbnail for next weeks episode. Shane’s back!

[@connorwood9211]

Sad there was never an 8th Doctor reference in this episode.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, not Percy.

[@DasKame]

American Education must be terrible

[@UKTheOmegaPyro]

"The North" in England is often seen as lower class and rougher.

[@FortoFight]

It's pretty depressing tbh. The South (specifically London) gets so much more attention and therefore the local economy is doing much better. Americans, please consider going to cities that aren't London when you visit :)

[@cutthr0atjake]

Aye, that's 'ow soft southern sh*tes view us, but they know nowt. ;-)

[@lukeevans6070]

Thats just a stereotype southern pricks think...people tend to be much more rude down there

[@kylemccrory2031]

I love this episode

[@kylemccrory2031]

One of the best episodes to come out of the whittaker era so far

[@DasKame]

jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjup

[@tonyjohansson7567]

A very good episode, and it gave the doctor time to shine. I'm rooting for the 13th doctor now. And Graham and Yaz are great companions. Except for episode three, series 12 has been a joy to watch, this far.

[@carn9507]

YES! Bloody love this episode. One of my faves. Rewatched it plenty. :)

[@dillonmartin5102]

Yaz was most definitely talking about the doctor. They are totally gonna be a thing I’m like 95% sure.

[@GabimaruSano]

Here we go boys!

[@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657]

Ouija board?... "What's your name?" ( *hands travel to yes* ) "wHaT tHe -?" ( *incoherent screaming* )

[@dandabmouth9068]

Also there was another time where the doctor said it takes an incredible lack of imagination to not have psychic paperwork on you which is kind of a contradiction of all the other times

[@Jim_The_Fish]

Only two more episodes to be uploaded here. Really wish Shane could have been a part of it. Especially Fugitive. Hope he’s doing okay.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Percy’s death is a famous historical event so of course the Doctor could show it to him, it wouldn’t work with just anyone.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin, otherwise known as Mary Shelley married Percy Shelley, making him Clara Clairmont’s brother-in-law, since she’s the stepsister of Mary Shelley, Clara Clairmont is also known as Claire Clairmont.

[@PedroGBSilva]

Please react to Doctor Who The Curse of Fatal Death, it's kind of a short from the 90's written by Steven Moffat

[@DasKame]

Wait...................................Eric didn'T know who the Author of Frankenstein was? Jesus Christ

[@jimmyturner4909]

wow this was a great episode

[@TehDeadPhobia]

I'm glad Aaron isn't always in the back seat.

[@rainbowquartz9513]

One question still remains: were those two girls that graham saw were actually ghosts?

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

Possibly, but there’s probably going to be an explanation by the end of the year.

[@gallifreyfalls7671]

I feel like they might’ve been people from other timelines bleeding through dimensions due to the cyberium.

[@strbourne]

@@ripleyjlawman.3162 Now what's your theory? /gen

[@lewis821]

One of the standouts of the season. I mean in my opinion “standout of the season” isn’t saying much for series 12, however I do actually like this episode.

[@jeckjeck3119]

@Quilo Sky Same.

[@Pablo-hj1rt]

Quilo Sky you think Tesla, Praxeus and Ascension are ‘great’? Yikes

[@Pablo-hj1rt]

Quilo Sky Tesla is okay, Praxeus is boring and Ascension is just dumb. Genuinely, you’re the first person I’ve seen defend the latter two. Don’t get me wrong, overall I really enjoyed S12, I’m not trying to hate. I just think those 3 are definitely the weakest of the lot by some mile, not including Orphan 55 of course.

[@DasKame]

I think "Demons of Punjab" and "kerblam" is better

[@carealoo744]

It's a real shake that this episode breaks continuity with the far superior Big Finish audio; The Silver Turk. I'm upset that they couldn't have even just threw in a line about how Mary Shelly had met The Doctor and the Cybermen before. Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just about to start the Tom Baker era :)

[@martynnotman3467]

This one evening led not only to "Frankenstein" but also to the birth of the Vampire novel. Byron was a fascinating and flawed man but he was no coward. Thats the one thing that really bugged me. You can write strong female characters (especially based on Mary Shelley and Claire Clairemont who were both incredible women) without resorting to bashing or infantalizing the male ones. Sign of a poor writer.

[@doctordalek4502]

Maybe the seeing death thing only happens because she knows what happens due to history books and she can’t just pull it from thin air

[@organisedchaosxo]

I'm always amazed that they have no concept of most of the historical figures that have been on this show. How can you have that basic a knowledge?!

[@bobhughes2290]

American education system

[@dandabmouth9068]

I don't want the baby to be forced to be made in to being a cyber man but you have to admit a baby in a tiny Cyberman suit would be one of the cutest things of all time....

[@strbourne]

It would probably be put in a regular sized cyber suit. They want to remove differences like size or age, and we also know from The Doctor Falls that they specifically target children because there's "less to through away".

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Eric! Thanks, Calvin! Thanks, Aaron! ⏳

[@ravpanda037]

oh look, Isildur

[@samfrisby6135]

So I’ve recently been rewatching Dr Who from series 1 as well as the Blindwave reactions to the episodes, and watching these current reactions and comparing it with the old stuff really reminds me just how far the show has plummeted since Chris Chibnall took over...😔

[@dandabmouth9068]

Didn't capaldi meet some genuine ghost or at least that's what he called them?

[@AussieSkull]

next week the end of doctor who begins...

[@barry1369]

This is prob the best ep of the Chibnall era

[@CyberController-]

That guy is.....not with us.

[@SeanS102]

People here saying it's obvious who Yaz is talking about might want to consider that it may have been more convincing had Yaz been given more than a crumb of character development

[@beckyc8104]

I agree she needs way more character development, I'd love to find out more about Yaz but I do think the show has been giving a few hints that Yaz has a crush on the doctor. Even just by how Mandip and Jodie interact with each other, they have quite a natural chemistry.

[@flora5090]

Are you the guardian?

[@Tyranniod]

By far the best episode of jodies era and actually an all round good doctor who episode.

[@prof.evilpictures8696]

2 more episodes till the Doctor Who canon gets fucking destroyed.

[@booga324]

cant wait for their reaction to the horrendous episode 10

[@gravyfish4684]

Is Kevin in a wheelchair, is he a cripple?

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

I remember a tabloid I think reporting on some parts of the fanbase being uncomfortable with Byron insisting on flirting with the Doctor even though they were clearly uninterested.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

How could anyone with even the most average education on literature not know who these people were?

[@DasKame]

i am stunned as you. But maybe American Board of Education is THAT bad?

[@Caredroia]

Of course it's broken...to what degree remains to be seen. The Chibnall figures went from nearly 12million down to 3million. Overy 60 years of Cannon out the window. There are of course fans who love it, no-matter-what, but the BBC were so worried that they have tried to hijack those repeat episode sit-ins and help make the forthcoming Time Lord Victorious to get good will back from fans. Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, I just wanted to state the facts. If I want good Dr Who now, I'm buying a ton of BIG FINISH. It dosen't matter in the end, in a few years time, a new showrunner will come along an do a JJ and say NuWho is an alternitive universe and start again (alot like the rumour about Disney Star Wars and how they are going to wipe Rey and Kylo out of Existance) good night to all the fans and stay safe.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Two weeks til I unsub....

[@NJH01]

What’s the point in that

[@fridgebanana101]

No need to tell the world

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Never mind lucifer won the poll

[@Caredroia]

The next two episodes are truely awful, so much so in fact...it broke the Fandom.

[@thegentleassassin]

it might have broke the minds of a few snowflake fanboys, but it by no means broke the fandom

[@samanthamaclean1430]

I disagree It didn’t broke the fandom

[@booradley8895]

I am a fan and yet I am unbroken

[@Caredroia]

Of course it's broken...to what degree remains to be seen. The Chibnall figures went from nearly 12million down to 3million. Overy 60 years of Cannon out the window. There are of course fans who love it, no-matter-what, but the BBC were so worried that they have tried to hijack those repeat episode sit-ins and help make the forthcoming Time Lord Victorious to get good will back from fans. Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, I just wanted to state the facts. If I want good Dr Who now, I'm buying a ton of BIG FINISH. It dosen't matter in the end, in a few years time, a new showrunner will come along an do a JJ and say NuWho is an alternitive universe and start again (alot like the rumour about Disney Star Wars and how they are going to wipe Rey and Kylo out of Existance) good night to all the fans and stay safe.

[@thegentleassassin]

^ how on earth does anyone take these whiny conspiracy theory nuts seriously?